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moking Treatments

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ever Robbins on Smoking

m: Stever Robbinste: Tue, 27 Dec 94 23:57:43 -0500

Stever Robbins

bject: alt.psych.nlp: smoking

article dfranco@aol.com (Dfranco) writes:

d like to hear what the experts on the list have to say about using NLP

help people quit smoking.

e only tried it once, and it worked for a while, but then stopped working once the person got back into certain stress

ations. Unfortunately, they were several thousand miles away, and we couldn't do some follow up sessions to "cleanway they dealt with those situations.

y approach was multi-pronged:

listened for whether she considered smoking just a behavior, or part of her identity. She often said things like, "Sinc

moker..." which I interpreted as smoking being part of her identity.

We did a lot of NLP belief system work around that identity stuff. We took her timeline back to when she decided to

oke, and did some reimprinting [see Dilts book "Changing Belief Systems with NLP"]. The issues were around defin

self as an adult. Ultimately, we did an integration or two and seemed to work out most of the identity issues.

We had to deal with the actual behaviors of smoking. For this, I mainly did swish patterns on the sight of her hand co

wards her mouth, and the sight of cigarettes in general.

To deal with the physical addiction, I borrowed a technique from "TRANCE-formations" and put her into a trance, a

gested that the feeling she "used to think was a craving for nicotine" could now be an indicator of how happy she wa

an EX-smoker.

Secondary gain. This was the one that unraveled it all. It turns out that smoking filled several useful roles in her life. A

er things, her husband couldn't stand the thought of her quitting while he still smoked. So he would walk up to her an

w smoke in her face [literally] while offering her cigarettes. Combined with other stresses in her marriage, well, let's

that she started again a couple of weeks after returning home from visiting.

sn't clear what could have been done about the situation. The problems in the marriage were deep enough that there

have been anything that could have been done, short of divorce. [She died about six months later, from cancer, whi

ddenly appeared and matesticized incredibly rapidly. She told me one day, about four weeks before she died, that sh

uldn't think of any other way to get out of the marriage. Mind / body interaction? My jury's still out, but it sure seems

y.]

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ad James on Smoking

m: nlp*and@aloha.com (Tad James)

wsgroups: alt.psychology.nlp

bject: Re: NLP and smoking?

te: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 23:28:48 LOCAL

ganization: Advanced Neuro Dynamics

article dfranco@aol.com (Dfranco) writes:d like to hear what the experts on the list have to say about using NLP

help people quit smoking.

ranco,

ch month, I do a lot of therapy using NLP, Hypnosis and Time Line Therapy, and I believe that I have clients with a

od success rate. Personally, I do think that you have to use all three to get good results.

me suggest something first: What ever technique you use, the client needs to be motivated to stop smoking. In most

dictions, selection is VERY important. You do not need to see everyone! The client has to be motivated!

nerally, you have to make sure that they are here of their own accord -- not for spouse or parents, etc. Then have th

ke a list of all the triggers(anchors) -- what caused them to smoke each time they smoked! Unmotivated smokers w

e the time, so you will get maybe three cigarettes on the list. If that happens throw them out, and wait till you have a l

t lists every cigarette, and the trigger.

ave included a page from the Time Line Therapy Training manual as to the rest of the intervention.

-------------------------- Inclusion -----------------------------

oking:Questions: What does smoking mean to them?

re identity/self-image/breaking away from family/macho/masculinity

moked since early age separate identity/adulthood

y be about energy: have body create more energy

ually need some Away in strat for speed/effectiveness

wards may need no aversion/aways may need much.

List of triggers/anchors before beginning treatment. Reject if

ufficient = insufficient committment.

or how long have they been able to quit?

Do a Parts Integration to integrate smoking/health parts.ime Line Therapyto disconnect Limiting Decision (w/health part.)

Change the client's Values so that Health is higher up on the hierarchy.

ime Line Therapyto disconnect triggers.

Replace triggers w/something else each time: what to do instead.

Using Hypnosis set up aversion anchor/amplify: "Remember vilest substance

burning rubber around mouth/lips/dripping down throat.

Put cig to lips/fire aversion anchor repeatedly.

Install Strategy for hands so can't hold cig: push it away/drop it.

Bring back to now.Hand them cigarette

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Future Pace recovery strat for backsliding 3x

hat's the longest time you've quit?

ve fail 3x at shorter & shorter intervals to

tall generative behaviour

l at not smoking but succeed at not smoking (time collapse)

Install on Time Line Therapyhaving quit twice the amount of time from

lier to avoid withdrawal symptoms

Hypnosis to have nicotine/alcohol wash out of body only as quickly as

u can be comfortable/free of symptoms

Future pace (and to FP disbelief of family/friends)

ope this helps, if you have further questions on this, or want more detail, just let me know.

article dfranco@aol.com (Dfranco) writes:

ad--thanks for the ideas. Most of it makes sense. Could you explain

eps 14 and 15 in more detail?

Future Pace recovery strat for backsliding 3x -- This means you need to future pace a strategy for recovering. So sa

y smoke -- how do they recover and stop again?

k: What's the longest time you've quit?

en have them imagine failing fail three times (then recover) -- first longer than the longest time. Then, at shorter & sh

ervals to install generative recovery strategy & behaviour. So ultimately they fail at not smoking but succeed at not sm

he same time ... (time collapse).

Past Pace (Install on the Time Line) having quit smoking at least twice the amount of time of the longest they've ever

oked. (So, client says, "The longest I quit smoking is 6 weeks -- install on the Time Line them quitting 12 weeks ago

s helps avoids withdrawal symptoms, since you aslo ask the Unconscious Mind to not have symptoms of withdrawa

ting the nicotine wash out of the system only as quickly as there are no symptoms." From the point of view of Quant

ology, this is not how withdrawal symptoms work, but the metaphor will work.lso, does either of you have a strong opinion on whether it is generally

etter for a person to quit cold turkey or taper off?

ave them go cold turkey, but as already noted, no symptoms or discomfort.

oha from Hawaii,

d James, MS, PhD

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