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Second Draft Meeting Agenda

NFPA Technical Committee On Fire Doors and Windows

(FDW-AAA)

September 30-October 1, 2014 Courtyard Marriott Downtown

San Diego, CA

1. Call meeting to order. Call meeting to order by the Chair Bruce Campbell at 8:00 AM on

Tuesday, September 30 at the Courtyard Marriott Downtown, San Diego, CA.

2. Self-introduction of members and guests.

For a current committee roster - See Page 3.

3. Approval of Minutes.

Approve the meeting minutes of the November 13-14, 2013 Meeting - See Page 7.

4. Chair report and review of agenda.

5. Second draft presentation and review of new codes and standards development process. See Page 22.

6. Report of Fire/Smoke Curtains Task Group. See Page 28.

7. Report of Fire Dampers Task Group. See Page 35.

8. Act on proposed changes to NFPA 80.

a. For Public Comments – See Page 38. b. Review of Committee Inputs - See Page 66.

9. Report of NFPA 105 ITM Task Group.


a. For Public Comments – See Page 75. b. Review of Committee Inputs - See Page 89.

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11. Other Business (topic, date received, origin). See Page 91.a. 4.3.3 ‘exit devices’, 12/20/2013, K. Pardoe b. A.5.1.4.1 typo, 1/16/2014, K. Pardoe c. 4.8.6 error, 1/31/2014, K. Bigda d. A.4.8.4.1, 5/19/2014, T. Vecchiarelli e. 17.1.2.1, 7/7/2014, K. Bigda f. Louvers in fire doors, 7/16/2014, T. Janicak

12. Fire Protection Research Foundation/Library Presentation.

13. Scheduling of Next Meeting.

14. Adjournment.

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Address List No PhoneFire Doors and Windows FDW-AAA

Kristin Bigda09/12/2014

FDW-AAABruce G. CampbellChairHughes Associates/RJA Group520 Courtney Way, Suite ALafayette, CO 80026-8863Alternate: David V. Tomecek

SE 4/3/2003FDW-AAA

Chad E. BeebePrincipalASHE - AHAPO Box 5756Lacey, WA 98509-5756Alternate: Lynn Kenney

U 10/20/2010

FDW-AAAWilliam ConnerPrincipalBill Conner Associates LLC637 North Marion StreetOak Park, IL 60302American Society of Theater Consultants

SE 4/3/2003FDW-AAA

Richard L. CravyPrincipalRuskin Company3900 Dr. Greaves RoadGrandview, MO 64030

M 10/18/2011

FDW-AAALuc DurandPrincipalSaskatoon Fire DepartmentPrevention and Investigation Division125 Idylwyld Drive SouthSaskatoon, SK S7M 1L4 Canada

E 10/23/2013FDW-AAA

Jerrold S. GorrellPrincipalTheatre Safety Programs15514 East Bumblebee LaneFountain Hills, AZ 85268US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.Alternate: Daniel J. Culhane

IM 4/3/2003

FDW-AAAJeffrey E. GouldPrincipalFM Approvals/FM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: Michael F. Daly

I 7/1/1993FDW-AAA

Scott GroesbeckPrincipalAREVA NP, Inc.6100 Southwest Blvd., Suite 400Fort Worth, TX 76109

SE 8/9/2011

FDW-AAASteven C. HahnPrincipalLawrence Roll-Up Doors, Inc.2420-C1 Sand Creek Road, #181Brentwood, CA 94513Door & Access Systems Manufacturers Assn. InternationalAlternate: David Dawdy

M 1/1/1992FDW-AAA

Harold D. Hicks, Jr.PrincipalAtlantic Code Consultants4530 William Penn Highway, #4350Murrysville, PA 15668-2002

SE 1/1/1994

FDW-AAACharles C. HoltPrincipalNational Energy Management InstitutePO Box 32Mammoth, PA 15664

SE 8/9/2011FDW-AAA

Thomas R. JanicakPrincipalCeco Door Products801 Mark LaneHampshire, IL 60140Steel Door InstituteAlternate: Kurt A. Roeper

M 1/1/1986

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FDW-AAAWilliam E. KoffelPrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Glazing Industry Code CommitteeAlternate: Vickie J. Lovell

M 1/1/1990FDW-AAA

Nancy L. KokeshPrincipalIntertek8431 Murphy DriveMiddleton, WI 53562Alternate: Michael Puls

RT 1/15/2004

FDW-AAAKeith LippincottPrincipalUniversity of MarylandService Building 003, Suite 0215College Park, MD 20742Alternate: William F. Guffey

E 10/23/2013FDW-AAA

John S. MathewsPrincipalAero Door International2459 Clark StreetApopka, FL 32703-2121International Door AssociationAlternate: Garry Stewart

IM 03/05/2012

FDW-AAAKeith E. PardoePrincipalBlade Strike, LLC6856 Maplewood DriveBealeton, VA 22712-9408Door and Hardware InstituteAlternate: Thomas M. Rubright

M 4/15/2004FDW-AAA

Vernon J. PattonPrincipalFirst Energy Corporation5501 North State Route 2Oak Harbor, OH 43449

U 4/3/2003

FDW-AAAJames S. PeterkinPrincipalHeery International1717 Arch Street, Suite 3730Philadelphia, PA 19103-2840NFPA Health Care SectionAlternate: Anne M. Guglielmo

U 3/4/2008FDW-AAA

Steven P. ReynoldsPrincipalThe Peelle Company Ltd.195 Sandalwood Parkway WestBrampton, ON L7A 1J6 CanadaNational Elevator Industry Inc.Alternate: Brian D. Black

M 3/21/2006

FDW-AAARonald RispoliPrincipalEntergy Corporation2414 West 5th StreetRussellville, AR 72801

U 1/1/1985FDW-AAA

Grayson SackPrincipalCashins and Associates, Inc.21 Fisher StreetNatick, MA 01760

SE 07/29/2013

FDW-AAAThomas A. SalamonePrincipalGannet Flemming Inc.20 Elmwood CirclePeekskill, NY 10566

SE 11/2/2006FDW-AAA

Michael L. Savage, Sr.PrincipalCity of Rio Rancho3200 Civic Center Circle NERio Rancho, NM 87144-4503

E 04/28/2000

FDW-AAASteve SchreiberPrincipalMasoniteOne Premdor DriveDickson, TN 37055-2774Window & Door Manufacturers Association

M 03/05/2012

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FDW-AAAMichael TierneyPrincipalKellen Company18 Hebron RoadBolton, CT 06043Builders Hardware Manufacturers AssociationAlternate: John Woestman

M 1/12/2000FDW-AAA

Garrett S. TomPrincipalInternational Fire Door Inspector Association52 Laxalt DriveCarson City, NV 89706

U 3/1/2011

FDW-AAAYunyong P. UtiskulPrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715-4427

SE 8/9/2011FDW-AAA

Luke C. WoodsPrincipalUL LLC146 Nathaniel DriveWhitinsville, MA 01588-1070Alternate: Matthew E. Schumann

RT 07/29/2013

FDW-AAAAnthony W. YuenPrincipalUniversity of CaliforniaEnvironment, Health & Safety317 University Hall, #1150Berkeley, CA 94720-1150

U 1/12/2000FDW-AAA

Brian D. BlackAlternateBDBlack Codes, Inc.4034 North Hampton Brook DriveHamburg, NY 14075National Elevator Industry Inc.Principal: Steven P. Reynolds

M 1/10/2008

FDW-AAADaniel J. CulhaneAlternateSECOA4145 Garfield Avenue SouthMinneapolis, MN 55409US Institute for Theatre Technology, Inc.Principal: Jerrold S. Gorrell

IM 03/07/2013FDW-AAA

Michael F. DalyAlternateFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikeNorwood, MA 02062Principal: Jeffrey E. Gould

I 8/9/2011

FDW-AAADavid DawdyAlternateCornell Iron Works, Inc.24 Elmwood AvenueMountaintop, PA 18707Door & Access Systems Manufacturers Assn. InternationalPrincipal: Steven C. Hahn

M 07/29/2013FDW-AAA

William F. GuffeyAlternateUniversity of MarylandOffice of the Fire Marshal3115 Chesapeaike BuildingCollege Park, MD 20742Principal: Keith Lippincott

E 03/05/2012

FDW-AAAAnne M. GuglielmoAlternateThe Joint CommissionDepartment of EngineeringOne Renaissance BoulevardOakbrook Terrace, IL 60181NFPA Health Care SectionPrincipal: James S. Peterkin

U 03/03/2014FDW-AAA

Lynn KenneyAlternateAmerican Society for Healthcare Engineering117 Old Forge RoadScituate, MA 02066Principal: Chad E. Beebe

U 10/23/2013

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FDW-AAAVickie J. LovellAlternateInterCode Incorporated200 NE 2nd Avenue, Suite 309Delray Beach, FL 33444Glazing Industry Code CommitteePrincipal: William E. Koffel

M 10/28/2008FDW-AAA

Michael PulsAlternateIntertek8431 Murphy DriveMiddleton, WI 53562Principal: Nancy L. Kokesh

RT 8/9/2011

FDW-AAAKurt A. RoeperAlternateASSA ABLOY110 Sargent DriveNew Haven, CT 06511Steel Door InstitutePrincipal: Thomas R. Janicak

M 9/30/2004FDW-AAA

Thomas M. RubrightAlternateWilliam S. Trimble Company, Inc.2200 Atchley StreetKnoxville, TN 37920Door and Hardware InstitutePrincipal: Keith E. Pardoe

M 1/14/2005

FDW-AAAMatthew E. SchumannAlternateUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: Luke C. Woods

RT 10/27/2009FDW-AAA

Garry StewartAlternateThe Doorman Service Company, Inc.PO Box 1603Kent, WA 98035International Door AssociationPrincipal: John S. Mathews

IM 3/15/2007

FDW-AAADavid V. TomecekAlternateHughes Associates/RJA Group520 Courtney Way, Suite ALafayette, CO 80026Principal: Bruce G. Campbell

SE 7/26/2007FDW-AAA

John WoestmanAlternateKellen Company808 North York Street, Box 989Monroe, IA 50170-0989Builders Hardware Manufacturers AssociationPrincipal: Michael Tierney

M 7/23/2008

FDW-AAAJoseph N. SainoMember Emeritus6560 Kirby Forest CoveMemphis, TN 38119

SE 1/1/1973FDW-AAA

Kristin BigdaStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

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MINUTESNFPA Technical Committee on Fire Doors and Windows

NFPA 80 and NFPA 105 First Draft Meeting

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2.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT

NAME COMPANY

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GUESTS

NAME COMPANY

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT

NAME COMPANY

3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes.

4. First draft presentation and review of new codes and standards development process. –

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6. Report of NFPA 105 ITM Task Group.


8. Act on old FIs.

9. Fire Protection Research Foundation proposals.

10. Other Business.

11. Task Groups.

NFPA 105 (Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance, and Door Specific Requirements)

b. Fabric Curtains (NFPA 80 and NFPA 105)

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c. Dampers (Smoke and Fire Dampers, Acceptance and Periodic Testing)

12. Scheduling of Next Meeting.

13. Adjournment.

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Committee Input No. 19-NFPA 105-2013 [ New Section after 6.6.6 ]

See attachment.

Supplemental Information

File Name Description

FR_Chapter_8_105_Smoke_Curtains.docx

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Kristin Bigda

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

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Submittal Date: Fri Nov 22 09:36:25 EST 2013

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 105 currently does not address smoke curtain assemblies.A Committee Input isbeing developed so as to further investigate and develop a chapter to address these typesof opening protectives. These products are being used in the field but no guidance isprovided by the standards at this time.

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Chapter 8 - Smoke Curtains

21.1 General.

21.1.1 This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of smoke curtain assemblies.

21.1.2 Smoke curtain assemblies shall be in accordance with UL 1784, Standard for Air Leakage Tests of Door Assemblies.

21.1.3 Smoke curtain assemblies shall be installed in accordance with their listing and with the manufacturer's installation instructions.

21.2 Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance.

21.2.1 Smoke curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested not less than annually.

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Committee Input No. 7-NFPA 80-2013 [ Section No. 3.3.8 ]

3.3.8 Automatic Fire Detector.

A device designed to detect the presence of a fire signature and to initiate action. For the purpose of thisstandard, automatic fire detectors are classified as follows: Automatic Fire Extinguishing or SuppressionSystem Operation Detector, Fire–Gas Detector, Heat Detector, Other Fire Detectors, Radiant Energy–Sensing Fire Detector, and Smoke Detector. [72, 2013]




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Submittal Date: Thu Nov 07 11:13:00 EST 2013

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 72 is in the same cycle as NFPA 80. The extracted text will be updated with a SecondRevision during the second draft meeting.

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3.3.116 Smoke Detector.

A device that detects visible or invisible particles of combustion. [72, 2013]




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4.8.2 Sills and Thresholds .

4.8.2.1

In buildings with noncombustible floors, a sill shall not be required, provided the floor structure is extendedthrough the door opening.

4.8.2.2

In buildings with combustible floors or combustible floor coverings, a sill shall be required if the floorstructure is extended through the door opening, as combustible floor construction shall not be permitted toextend through the door opening.

4.8.2.3

Door openings required to be protected by 1?2 -hour or 1?3 -hour rated fire protection door assemblies shallbe exempted from the requirements of 4.8.2.2.

4.8.2.4

Sills shall be constructed of noncombustible materials.

4.8.2.5*

For swinging doors with builders hardware and special-purpose horizontally sliding accordion or foldingdoors with frames having a jamb depth of 4 in. (102 mm) or less, the sill width shall be equal to the jambdepth.

4.8.2.6*

Where frames have a greater jamb depth, the sills shall have a minimum width of 4 in. (102 mm) and shallbe installed so that the sill extends from the face of the frame on the door side into the frame.

4.8.2.7

For swinging doors with fire door hardware, sills shall extend at least the depth of the door frame for flush-mounted doors.

4.8.2.8*

For lap-mounted doors, sills shall extend beyond the opening for a length equal to the projection of theinstalled door or doors.

4.8.2.9*

For horizontally sliding fire doors and vertically sliding fire doors, sills shall be constructed ofnoncombustible material and shall extend 6 in. (152 mm) past the edge of the opening on each side and 4in. (102 mm) out from the face of the wall.

4.8.2.10 Rolling Steel Fire Doors.

For rolling steel fire doors, sills shall be constructed of noncombustible material, shall extend past eachjamb as necessary to be completely under the guides, and shall extend out from the centerline of the guidegroove a minimum of 4 in. (102 mm) on each side to accommodate deflection of the bottom bar.

4.8.2.11

For service counter fire doors, sills shall be provided as part of the fire door assembly.

4.8.2.12

Flush concrete sills shall extend to the wall opening on both sides.

4.8.2.13*

For swinging doors with builders hardware, horizontally sliding doors, and special-purpose horizontallysliding accordion or folding doors, raised noncombustible sills or thresholds shall be permitted wherevercombustible floor coverings are contemplated or are in use on one or both sides of the door openings.


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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Current language is not clear regarding the difference between sills and thresholds. Thecommittee will be further investigating the issue before the second draft meeting. Additional inputfrom the public in encouraged.

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4.8.4 Clearance.

4.8.4.1 *

The The clearance under the bottom of a door shall be

a maximum of 3 ? 4an average of ¾ in. edge to edge (19 mm) but at no point shall the clearance exceed 1 in .

4.8.4.2

Where* The clearance under the bottom of

the door is more than 38 in. (965 mm) above the finished floor, the maximum clearance shall not exceed3 ? 8 in. (9.5 mm) or as specified by the manufacturer's label service procedurea door shall be a maximum of ¾ in. at the location of a bottom latch bolt .



A.4.8.4.2.docx




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The committee is currently discussing multiple options for door clearances. Additional time andfeedback is needed prior to the Second Draft meeting to finalize a solution. The proposed textprovides an interim solution to door clearance issues that exist in the field today. Annex A material isbeing added to 4.8.4.2 provides guidance language to help ensure that door clearance does notinterfere with the operation of the latch bolt, if present.

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A.4.8.4.2

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Committee Input No. 9-NFPA 80-2013 [ Section No. 5.2.2.3 ]

5.2.2.3*

The records shall be on a medium that will survive the retention period. Paper or electronic media shall bepermitted. [72:14.6.2.3]




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5.5.7

When fastener holes are left in a door or frame due to changes or removal of hardware or plant-ons, theholes shall be repaired by one of the following methods:

(1) Install steel fasteners that completely fill cover the holes

(2) Fill the screw or bolt holes with the same material as the door or frame

(3) Fill holes with material listed for this use and installed in accordance with the manufacturer’sprocedures.

5.5.8 Holes, other than those as described by 5.5.7 shall be treated as a field modification in accordancewith 5.1.4.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

Proposing revisions to NFPA 80 to address repairs of doors. Products are listed for repairing holesin fire doors. The proposed language allows for these listed products. The intent of Secton 5.5.7was originally to apply to fastener holes. As written, the section could have applied to all holes, of allshapes and sizes, in a fire door. Additional language clarifies the intent of the section.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 61-NFPA 80-2013 [Section No. 5.5.7]


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Committee Input No. 58-NFPA 80-2013 [ New Section after 20.9.5.2 ]

Chapter 21 - Fire Protective Curtains

21.1 General

21.1.1 This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintence of fire protective curtainassemblies.

21.1.2 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be in accordance with UL 10D, Fire Tests for Fire ProtectiveCurtains.

21.1.3 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be installed in accordance with their listing and with themanufacturer's installation instructions.

21.2 Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance

21.2.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested not less than annually.




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Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 80 currently does not address fire protective curtain assemblies. A new standard has beendeveloped by UL, Fire Tests for Fire Protective Curtains, which should be followed for the installationof these products. A Committee Input is being developed so as to further investigate and develop achapter to address these types of opening protectives. These products are different than the currentChapter 20 for fabric fire safety curtains.

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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 105-2014 [ New Section after 7.7.3 ]

TITLE OF NEW CONTENT

Public Comment #1

3.3.xx Smoke protective Curtain Assembly – Assembly typically consisting of a fabric curtain, bottom bar,guides, coil, operating and closing system.

Public Comment #2

Chapter 8 – Smoke Protective Curtain Assemblies

8.1 General

8.1.1* This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of smoke protective curtainassemblies installed to protect vertical openings.

8.1.2* Smoke protective curtain assemblies that are protecting vertical openings shall be air leakage tested inaccordance with UL 1784, Air Leakage Tests for Door Assemblies.

8.2 Mounting of Smoke Protective Curtain Assemblies

8.2.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be mounted to supporting construction in accordance with theirlisting and with the manufacturer’s installation instructions.

8.2.2 Items that are not a part of a smoke protective curtain assembly shall not be field attached to anycomponent of a smoke protective curtain assembly.

8.2.3 Access to, and clearances between, surrounding construction and a smoke protective curtain assemblyshall allow for required testing and maintenance.

8.3 Assembly Components

8.3.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be either self-closing or automatic-closing.

8.3.1.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall not have a delay in the initiation of closing of more than 10seconds.

8.3.1.2 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in/sec (152mm/sec) or more than 24 in/sec (610mm/sec).

8.3.2* Curtains shall not be sewn together in the field.

8.4 Power Operators

8.4.1 Power operators shall be provided with an emergency power source, or shall be capable of closing upon aloss of power.

8.5 Installation

8.5.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be installed in accordance with their listing and with themanufacturer's installation instructions.


8.6.1 Following completion of installation, smoke protective curtains shall be inspected and tested inaccordance with 8.7.

8.6.2 A record of all inspections and testing shall be signed by the inspector and kept for inspection by the AHJ.

8.6.2.1 Records of acceptance testing following completion of installation shall be retained for the life of theassembly.

8.6.2.2 Records of periodic inspections and testing shall be retained for a period of at least 3 years.

8.6.2.3 The records shall be on a medium that will survive the retention period. Paper or electronic media shallbe permitted. [72:14.6.2.3]

8.6.2.4 A record of all inspections and testing shall be provided that includes, but is not limited to, the followinginformation:

(1) Date of inspection

(2) Name of facility

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(3) Address of facility

(4) Name of person(s) performing inspections and testing

(5) Company name and address of inspecting company

(6) Signature of inspector of record

(7) Individual record of each inspected and tested smoke protective curtain assembly

(8) Opening identifier and location of each inspected and tested smoke protective curtain

(9) Type and description of each inspected and tested smoke protective curtain

(10) Verification of visual inspection and functional operation

(11) Listing of any deficiencies

8.6.2.5 Upon completion of maintenance work, smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected andtested in accordance with 8.7.

8.7 Acceptance Testing

8.7.1 Acceptance testing of smoke protective curtains assemblies shall be performed by a qualified person withknowledge and understanding of the operating components of the type of assembly being subject to testing.

8.7.2 Before testing, a visual inspection shall be performed to identify any damaged or missing parts that cancreate a hazard during testing or affect operation or resetting.

8.7.3 Acceptance testing shall include the closing of the smoke protective curtain assembly by all means ofactivation.

8.7.4 A record of these inspections and testing shall be made in accordance with 8.6.

8.7.5 The following items shall be verified:

(1) Labels are clearly visible and legible.

(2) No open holes or breaks exist in surfaces of the curtain.

(3) Curtain, guides, and coil are aligned, level, plumb, and true.

(4) Mounting and assembly bolts are intact and secured.

(5) Attachments to jambs are with bolts, expansion anchors, or as otherwise required by the listing.

(6) Smoke detectors, if equipped, are installed, operational and in accordance with NFPA 72, National FireAlarm and Signaling Code.

(7) No parts are missing or broken.

(8) Auxiliary hardware items that interfere or prohibit operation are not installed on the curtain or frame.

(9) No field modifications to the smoke protective curtain assembly have been performed that void the label.

(10) Smoke protective curtain assemblies have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in./ sec (152mm/sec) or more than 24 in./sec (610 mm/sec).

8.7.6 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be drop-tested twice.

8.7.6.1 The first test shall be to check for proper operation and full closure

8.7.6.2 A second test shall be done to verify that the automatic-closing device has been reset correctly.

8.7.7 Fusible links, release devices, and other moveable parts shall not be painted or coated with othermaterials that could interfere with the operation of the assembly.

8.8 Closing Devices

8.8.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested to check for proper operation and fullclosure.

8.8.2 Resetting of the automatic-closing device shall be performed in accordance with the manufacturer’sinstructions.

8.9 Periodic Inspection and Testing.

8.29.1 Periodic inspections and testing of smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be performed not less thanannually.

8.9.2 As a minimum, the provisions of 8.7 shall be included in the periodic inspection and testing procedure.

8.10 Maintenance.


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8.10.1 Repairs shall be made, and defects that could interfere with operation shall be corrected without delay.

8.10.2 Any breaks in the face covering of curtains shall be repaired in accordance with manufacturer’srequirements without delay.

8.10.3 Where a smoke protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances is damaged to the extentthat it could impair the assembly’s proper emergency function, the following actions shall be performed:

The smoke protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances shall be repaired with labeledparts or parts obtained from the original manufacturer.

1.

The smoke protective curtain assembly shall be tested to ensure emergency operation and closing uponcompletion of the repairs.

2.

8.10.4 If repairs cannot be made with labeled components or parts obtained from the original manufacturer, thesmoke protective curtain assembly or appurtenances shall be replaced.

Public Comment #3

A.8.1.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies are not to be confused with fabric fire safety curtain assemblieswhich are intended for use specifically on proscenium openings.

A.8.3.2 Sections of a smoke protective curtain may be sewn together by the manufacturer when such joints areincluded in the assembly that was tested in accordance with UL 10D.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Statement:

The submitted comment represents the work of a task group that was established during the First Draft meeting to further explore and evaluate the necessary requirements for fire and smoke curtains. The language is an expansion of the work completed at the First Draft meeting and is in response to the developed committee inputs. The task group worked together to develop requirements that address the installation, inspection, and testing of these fire and smoke curtain products.

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Committee Input No. 19-NFPA 105-2013 [New Section after 6.6.6]


Submitter Full Name: James Peterkin

Organization: Heery International

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Submittal Date: Fri May 16 15:29:32 EDT 2014

Copyright Assignment

I, James Peterkin, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in thisPublic Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquireno rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivativeform is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyrightassignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am James Peterkin, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms andconditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon mysubmission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature


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Public Comment No. 42-NFPA 80-2014 [ New Section after 20.9.5.2 ]


PUBLIC COMMENT #1

3.3.xx Fire Protective Curtain Assembly – Assembly typically consisting of a fabric curtain, bottom bar,guides, coil, operating and closing system.

PUBLIC COMMENT #2

Chapter 21 – Fire Protective Curtain Assemblies

21.1 General

21.1.1* This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of fire protective curtainassemblies installed to protect vertical openings.

21.1.2* Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be fire tested in accordance with UL 10D, Fire Tests for FireProtective Curtain Assemblies.

21.2 Mounting of Fire Protective Curtain Assemblies

21.2.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be mounted to supporting construction in accordance with theirlisting and with the manufacturer’s installation instructions.

21.2.2 Items that are not a part of a fire protective curtain assembly shall not be field attached to anycomponent of a fire protective curtain assembly.

21.2.3 Access to, and clearances between, surrounding construction and a fire protective curtain assemblyshall allow for required testing and maintenance.


21.3.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be either self-closing or automatic-closing.

21.3.1.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall not have a delay in the initiation of closing of more than 10seconds.

21.3.1.2 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in/sec (152mm/sec) or more than 24 in/sec (610mm/sec).


21.4 Power Operators

21.4.1 Power operators shall be provided with an emergency power source, or shall be capable of closing upona loss of power.

21.5 Installation



21.6.1 Following completion of installation, fire protective curtains shall be inspected and tested in accordancewith 21.7.

21.6.2 A record of all inspections and testing shall be signed by the inspector and kept for inspection by theAHJ.

21.6.2.1 Records of acceptance testing following completion of installation shall be retained for the life of theassembly.


21.6.2.3 The records shall be on a medium that will survive the retention period. Paper or electronic media shallbe permitted. [72:14.6.2.3]

21.6.2.4 A record of all inspections and testing shall be provided that includes, but is not limited to, the followinginformation:




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(7) Individual record of each inspected and tested fire protective curtain assembly

(8) Opening identifier and location of each inspected and tested fire protective curtain

(9) Type and description of each inspected and tested fire protective curtain



21.6.2.5 Upon completion of maintenance work, fire protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and testedin accordance with 21.7.


21.7.1 Acceptance testing of fire protective curtains assemblies shall be performed by a qualified person withknowledge and understanding of the operating components of the type of assembly being subject to testing.

21.7.2 Before testing, a visual inspection shall be performed to identify any damaged or missing parts that cancreate a hazard during testing or affect operation or resetting.

21.7.3 Acceptance testing shall include the closing of the fire protective curtain assembly by all means ofactivation.







(5) Attachments to jambs are with bolts, expansion anchors, or as otherwise required by the listing.

(6) Smoke detectors, if equipped, are installed, operational and in accordance with NFPA 72, National FireAlarm and Signaling Code.



(9) No field modifications to the fire protective curtain assembly have been performed that void the label.

(10) Fire protective curtain assemblies have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in./ sec (152 mm/sec)or more than 24 in./sec (610 mm/sec).

21.7.6 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be drop-tested twice.



21.7.7 Fusible links, release devices, and other moveable parts shall not be painted or coated with othermaterials that could interfere with the operation of the assembly.

21.8 Closing Devices

21.8.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested to check for proper operation and fullclosure.

21.8.2 Resetting of the automatic-closing device shall be performed in accordance with the manufacturer’sinstructions.


21.29.1 Periodic inspections and testing of fire protective curtain assemblies shall be performed not less thanannually.


21.10 Maintenance.


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21.10.2 Any breaks in the face covering of curtains shall be repaired in accordance with manufacturer’srequirements without delay.

21.10.3 Where a fire protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances is damaged to the extent thatit could impair the assembly’s proper emergency function, the following actions shall be performed:

The fire protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances shall be repaired with labeled partsor parts obtained from the original manufacturer.

1.

The fire protective curtain assembly shall be tested to ensure emergency operation and closing uponcompletion of the repairs.

2.

21.10.4 If repairs cannot be made with labeled components or parts obtained from the original manufacturer,the fire protective curtain assembly or appurtenances shall be replaced.

PUBLIC COMMENT #3

A.21.1.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies are not to be confused with fabric fire safety curtain assemblieswhich are intended for use specifically on proscenium openings.

A.21.1.2 UL 10D covers the evaluation of fire protective curtain assemblies intended to provide supplemental,passive fire protection as part of an engineered fire protection system. Fire protective curtain assembliesprovide non-structural separation only, and are not intended to be substituted for structural hourly ratedpartitions or opening protectives that have been tested for fire endurance and hose stream performance. Whileproducts tested to UL 10D are exposed to a standard temperature time curve and the test is a positive pressuretest, the test does not include a hose stream test nor does it provide criteria regarding temperature rise on theunexposed surface. As an alternative, fire protective curtains tested in accordance with UL 10B, Fire Tests ofDoor Assemblies, or UL 10C, Positive Pressure Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, may be considered whenacceptable to the Authority Having Jurisdiction.

A.21.3.2 Sections of a fire protective curtain may be sewn together by the manufacturer when such joints areincluded in the assembly that was tested in accordance with UL 10D.

PUBLIC COMMENT #4

K.4 Despite the provision of protection specified in this standard, walls with openings have less fire resistancethan unpierced walls. Fire curtains, doors, shutters, and fire windows are designed to protect an opening undernormal conditions of use, with a clear space on both sides of the opening. Where the opening is not used andcombustible material is piled against the curtain, door, window, or shutter, the designed protection cannot beexpected. For that reason, combustible material should be kept well away from openings. Where a door orwindow opening is no longer in use, the opening should be closed, with construction having a fire resistancerating equivalent to that of the wall.

K.5 Any assembly provided in accordance with the provisions of this standard does not necessarily provide thesame degree of protection against the spread of fire that is provided by the wall in which the assembly isinstalled, assuming that the wall has fire resistance established in accordance with ASTM E119, Standard TestMethods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials. Therefore, the size and number of openings inany wall required to have fire resistance should be kept to the minimum necessary for the normal or emergencyoperation of the occupancy. Building and fire codes generally limit the extent of wall openings permitted withina defined length of wall because the protection is not equivalent. The user of this standard is encouraged tobecome familiar with the limitations of these other standards.

The use of assemblies covered in this standard in fire-resistive walls only for decorative, aesthetic, and similarpurposes is not recommended. However, there are glazing systems using fire-resistant glazing materials thatare actually fire-resistive walls tested in accordance with ASTM E119. Such systems can be permitted to beused as fire-resistive walls and are not within the scope of this standard.

There are developments in the area of glazing that demonstrate a resistance to the passage of heat beyondthat discussed in Annex I. Historically, the fire protection performance of glazing has been based on wiredglass, which is capable of successfully meeting the fire exposure test criteria of NFPA 257, Standard on FireTest for Window and Glass Block Assemblies, and which has been accepted as having a fire protection rating of45 minutes. The fire protection–rated glazing materials are now capable of meeting the fire test criteria ofNFPA257 for as long as 3 hours, and some have a low radiant heat transfer capability for as long as 1 hour and11⁄2 hours. Safety glazing is also an important consideration where glazing materials are used in fire doors andin fire resistance–rated walls that could be subject to accidental human impact. In such applications, all modelbuilding codes contain requirements for safety glazing based on 16 CFR 1201, U.S. Consumer Product SafetyCommission, “Standard for Architectural Glazing.”


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K.8 Fire protective curtain assemblies are principally intended to be used to protect openings in fire separationsthat also provides a degree of smoke restriction.


Statement:


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Committee Input No. 58-NFPA 80-2013 [New Section after 20.9.5.2]




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Copyright Assignment

I, James Peterkin, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in thisPublic Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquireno rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivativeform is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyrightassignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am James Peterkin, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms andconditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon mysubmission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature


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NFPA 80

19.4* Periodic Inspection and Testing

19.4.1 Each damper shall be tested and inspected 1 year after installation

19.4.1.1 In buildings not containing a hospital, each damper shall be tested and inspected every 4 years thereafter.The test and inspection frequency shall then be every 4 years, except in hospitals, where the frequency shall be every 6 years.

19.4.1.2 In buildings containing a hospital, each damper shall be tested and inspected every 6 years thereafter.

19.4.2 Combination fire/smoke dampers shall be inspected and tested in accordance with NFPA 105, Standard for Smoke Door Assemblies and Other Opening Protectives.

19.4.32 Care shall be exercised that all All tests are shall be completed in a safe manner by personnel wearing personal protective equipment.

19.4.43 Full unobstructed access to the fire or combination fire/smoke damper shall be verified and corrected as required.

19.4.5 The tests shall be conducted with normal HVAC airflow unless determined to be unsafe.

19.4.4 If the damper is equipped with a fusible link, the link shall be removed for testing to ensure full closure and lock‐in‐place if so equipped.

19.4.65 The operational test operation of the damper shall verify that there is no damper interference due to rusted, bent, misaligned, or damaged frame or blades, or defective hinges or other moving parts.

19.4.76 The damper frame shall not be penetrated by any foreign objects that would affect fire damper operations.

19.4.87 The damper shall be verified to not be blocked from closure in any way.

19.4.8 The fusible link shall be reinstalled after testing is complete.

19.4.8.1 If the link is damaged or painted, it shall be replaced with a link of the same size, temperature, and load rating.

19.4.2 Periodic Testing for Fusible Link Operated Dampers

19.4.2.1 For safety considerations, insure that the fan is off.

19.4.2.2.1 With the damper in the full‐open position, remove the fusible link. Care should be taken to insure that there are no obstructions, including hands, in the path of the damper blades before the fusible link is removed.

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19.4.2.3.2 Once the fusible link is removed, ensure that the damper closes completely without assistance. If the damper is designed with a latch to hold the damper in the full‐closed position confirm that the damper latches properly.

19.4.2.4.3 Return the damper to the full‐open position and replace the fusible link. If the link appears damaged, replace with a functionally equivalent link.

19.4.3 Periodic Testing for Dampers that do Not Use a Fusible Link to Operate

19.4.3.1 Dampers with Position Indication Wired to Indication Lights, Control Panels or the Building

Automation System BAS

19.4.3.1.1 Use the signal from the damper’s position indication device to confirm that the damper is in the full‐open position.

19.4.3.1.2 Command the damper to the closed position.

19.4.3.1.3 Use the signal from the damper’s position indication device to confirm that the damper reaches its full‐closed position.

19.4.3.1.4 Command the damper to the open position.

19.4.3.1.5 Use the signal from the damper’s position indication device to confirm that the damper reaches its full‐open position.

19.4.3.2 Dampers without Position Indication

19.4.3.2.1 Visually confirm that the damper is in the full‐open position.

19.4.3.2.2 Ensure that all obstructions, including hands, are out of the path of the damper blades and then cause the damper to close. remove electrical power or air pressure from the actuator to allow the actuator’s spring return feature to close the damper.

19.4.3.2.3 Visually confirm that the damper closes completely.

19.4.3.2.4 Cause the damper to re‐open. Reapply electrical power or air pressure to reopen the damper.

19.4.3.2.5 Visually confirm that the damper is in the full‐open position.

19.4.9 19.4.4 All inspections and inspections and testing shall be documented, indicating the location of the ceiling radiation damper, fire damper, or combination fire/smoke damper, date of inspection , inspection, name of inspector, and deficiencies discovered. The documentation shall have a space to indicate when and how the deficiencies were corrected. person performing the test and any or inspector, and deficiencies discovered.






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19.4.9.1 19.4.4.1 All The documentation shall be maintained for at least one test cycle and made available for review by the AHJ. have a space to indicate when and how the deficiencies were corrected and damper retested..

19.4.10 19.4.5 All documentation shall be maintained for at least one test cycle and made available for review by the AHJ.

19.4.11 19.4.6 Periodic inspections and testing of a combination fire/smoke damper shall also meet the inspection and testing requirements contained in Chapter 6 of NFPA 105, Standard for Smoke Door

Assemblies and Other Opening Protectives.

ANNEX A Explanatory Material

A.19.4 Effects on other building components, systems, and building occupants should be evaluated before testing by qualified personnel.





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Public Comment No. 30-NFPA 80-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.2 ]

2.3.2 ASTM Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM A36, Standard Specification for Carbon Structural Steel, ASTM A36/A36M-08 2012 .

ASTM D4157, Standard Test Method for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Oscillatory Cylinder Method), 2010 2013 .

ASTM D5034, Standard Test Method for Breaking Strength and Elongation of Textile Fabrics (Grab Test), 2009 (2013) .

ASTM D6193, Standard Practice for Stitches and Seams, 2011.

ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials,2012a.


date updates

Related ItemPublic Input No. 30-NFPA 80-2013 [Section No. 2.3.2]


Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler

Organization: GBH International

Street Address:

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Submittal Date: Sun May 11 16:58:30 EDT 2014

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2.3.2 ASTM Publications.ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM A36/A 36M , Standard Specification for Carbon Structural Steel, ASTMA36/A36M-08 2012 .

ASTM D4157, Standard Test Method for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Oscillatory Cylinder Method), 2010 2013 .

ASTM D5034, Standard Test Method for Breaking Strength and Elongation of Textile Fabrics (Grab Test), 2009.

ASTM D6193, Standard Practice for Stitches and Seams, 2011.

ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials,2012a.


Updating year dates

Related ItemFirst Revision No. 34-NFPA 80-2013 [Section No. 8.4.2.1.4]


Submitter Full Name: Steve Mawn

Organization: ASTM International

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Submittal Date: Thu May 15 15:33:12 EDT 2014




UL 10B Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, 2008

UL 10C Positive Pressure Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, 2009


Proposing to add two fire door test methods for which products referenced in NFPA 80 are evaluated to.

Related ItemFirst Revision No. 1-NFPA 80-2013 [Section No. 2.3.3]


Submitter Full Name: Luke Woods

Organization: UL LLC

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Submittal Date: Fri Apr 18 14:14:37 EDT 2014




3.3.110 Sill.The portion of the building structure which forms the bottom part of an opening over which a fire door closes.


Clarify meaning of sill to accompany the addition of a definition for threshold.Related Item

Public Input No. 12-NFPA 80-2013 [Section No. 4.8.2.2]


Submitter Full Name: Michael Tierney

Organization: Kellen Company

Affilliation: BHMA

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Define “threshold” – 3.3.XXX A horizontal member installed beneath a closed door or in a wall opening


The word "threshold" is being proposed to replace "sill" in Section 4.8.2 in a subsequent proposal.

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4.8.2 Sills.4.8.2.1In buildings with noncombustible floors, a sill shall not be required, provided the floor structure is extended through the door opening.4.8.2.2In buildings with combustible floors or combustible floor coverings, a sill shall be required if the floor structure is extended through the door opening, as combustible floor construction shall not be permitted to extend through the door opening.4.8.2.3Door openings required to be protected by 1⁄2-hour or 1⁄3-hour rated fire protection door assemblies shall be exempted from the requirements of 4.8.2.2.4.8.2.4Sills shall be constructed of noncombustible materials.4.8.2.5*For swinging doors with builders hardware and special-purpose horizontally sliding accordion or folding doors with frames having a jamb depth of 4 in. (102 mm) or less, the sill width shall be equal to the jamb depth.4.8.2.6*Where frames have a greater jamb depth, the sills shall have a minimum width of 4 in. (102 mm) and shall be installed so that the sill extends from the face of the frame on the door side into the frame.4.8.2.7For swinging doors with fire door hardware, sills shall extend at least the depth of the door frame for flush-mounted doors.4.8.2.8*For lap-mounted doors, sills shall extend beyond the opening for a length equal to the projection of the installed door or doors.4.8.2.9*For horizontally sliding fire doors and vertically sliding fire doors, sills shall be constructed of noncombustible material and shall extend 6 in. (152 mm) past the edge of the opening on each side and 4 in. (102 mm) out from the face of the wall.4.8.2.10 Rolling Steel Fire Doors.For rolling steel fire doors, sills shall be constructed of noncombustible material, shall extend past each jamb as necessary to be completely under the guides, and shall extend out from the centerline of the guide groove a minimum of 4 in. (102 mm) on each side to accommodate deflection of the bottom bar.4.8.2.11For service counter fire doors, sills shall be provided as part of the fire doorassembly.4.8.2.12Flush concrete sills shall extend to the wall opening on both sides.4.8.2.13*For swinging doors with builders hardware, horizontally sliding doors, and special-purpose horizontally sliding accordion or folding doors, raised noncombustible sills or thresholds shall be permitted wherever combustible floor coverings are contemplated or are in use on one or both sides of the door openings.




NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) is providing public comment to the Committee Input #54. We suggest not adding the term “threshold” in the title. The Technical Committee has requested that there be input regarding the difference between a Sill and a Threshold. The question is: has this section ever been confusing by only using the word “Sills” in the title? We don't believe so. Section 4.8.2.2 requires doors sills where combustible floors or floor coverings exist. There do not seem to be any requirements for thresholds in fire doors. Thresholds are an appurtenance above a sill generally use for environmental considerations. There is a difference between the two terms, but this document, especially this section, does not appear to need to address thresholds.

Related ItemCommittee Input No. 54-NFPA 80-2013 [Section No. 4.8.2]


Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir

Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington

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4.8.2 Sills. Thresholds4.8.2.1

In buildings with noncombustible floors, a sill a threshold shall not be required, provided the floor structure is extended through the door opening.4.8.2.2

In buildings with combustible floors or combustible floor coverings, a sillthreshold shall be required if the floor structure or floor coverings isextended through the door opening, as combustible floor construction shall not be permitted to extend through the door opening.4.8.2.3

Door openings required to be protected by 1⁄2 -hour or 1⁄3 -hour rated fire protection door assemblies shall be exempted from the requirements of4.8.2.2.4.8.2.4

Sills shall Thresholds shall be constructed of noncombustible materials.4.8.2.5 *

For swinging doors with builders hardware and special-purpose horizontally sliding accordion or folding doors with frames having a jamb depth of 4 in. (102 mm) or less, the sill the threshold width shall be equal to the jamb depth.4.8.2.6 *

Where frames have a greater jamb depth, the sills the threshold shall have a minimum width of 4 in. (102 mm) and shall be installed so that the sill extends from the face of the frame on the door side into the frame.4.8.2.7

For swinging doors with fire door hardware, sills threshold shall extend at least the depth of the door frame for flush-mounted doors.4.8.2.8 *

For lap-mounted doors, sills threshold shall extend beyond the opening for a length equal to the projection of the installed door or doors.4.8.2.9 *

For horizontally sliding fire doors and vertically sliding fire doors, sills thresholds shall be constructed of noncombustible material and shall extend 6 in. (152 mm) past the edge of the opening on each side and 4 in. (102 mm) out from the face of the wall.4.8.2.10 Rolling Steel Fire Doors.

For rolling steel fire doors, sills shall be constructed of noncombustible material, shall extend past each jamb as necessary to be completely under the guides, and shall extend out from the centerline of the guide groove a minimum of 4 in. (102 mm) on each side to accommodate deflection of the bottom bar.4.8.2.11

For service counter fire doors, sills shall be provided as part of the fire door assembly.4.8.2.12

Flush concrete sills shall extend to the wall opening on both sides.4.8.2.13 *



For swinging doors with builders hardware, horizontally sliding doors, and special-purpose horizontally sliding accordion or folding doors, raised noncombustible sills or thresholds shall be permitted wherever combustible floor coverings are contemplated or are in use on one or both sides of the door openings.


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4.8.2.2 *In buildings with combustible floors or combustible with combustible floor coverings, a sill shall be required if the floor structure is extended through the door opening, as combustible floor construction shall not be permitted tothe combustible floor covering is extend through the door opening.

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Attempting to clarify the section and remove superfluous wording. It is unclear if the requirement applies to subflooring material and the floor assembly as a whole (including floor trusses), or to floor coverings only, hence the “applies/does not apply” wording.

If the intent is to prohibit any combustible material from passing through a door opening, this will be very difficult to enforce and the presence of a sill will not have any effect on a subfloor or combustible materials found beneath the finished floor. Wood materials are typically used in fire barriers using 1/3, ¾ and 1-hour rated fire protection door assemblies. Please clarify the requirement.

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Sections 4.8.5.1, 4.8.5.2

4.8. 5 2 . 2. 1Combustible floor coverings shall be permitted to extend through openings required to be protected by 1 1⁄2 -hour, 1-hour, or 3⁄4 -hour rated fire protection fire door assemblies without a sill where they have a minimum critical radiant flux of 0.22 W/cm2 in accordance with NFPA 253.4.8. 5 2 .2 .2Combustible floor coverings shall not extend through openings protected by 3-hour rated fire protection door assemblies.


Section 4.8.2.2 prohibits combustible floor coverings from passing through a door opening and 4.8.5.1 allows it when certain floor coverings are used. These two sections should be placed together.

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Public Comment No. 23-NFPA 80-2014 [ Section No. 5.1.2.3.2 ]

5.1.2.3.2Where necessary, a barrier shall be built required by the AHJ, an approved barrier shall be installed to prevent the piling of material against sliding doors.


It is important that any barrier that is installed to prevent material or objects from possibly blocking sliding doors should be approved by the AHJ so that the barriers do not unintentionally block egress for either occupants or firefighters.

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19.5.319.5.3.1

Testing of dampers with position indication wired to indication lights, control panels, or Building Automation System (BAS) shall comply with the following procedure:

(1) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm It shall be confirmed visually that the damper is in the full -open position and that the position indication device shows the same .

(2) It shall be verified that all obstructions, including hands, are out of the path of the damper blades and then electrical power or air pressure shall be removed from the actuator to allow the actuator’s spring return feature to close the damper.

(3) The damper shall be commanded to the closed position.

(4) The signal from the damper’s position indication device It shall be used to confirm confirmed visually that the damper reaches its full-closed position closes completely and that the position indication device confirms the position .

(5) The damper shall be commanded to the open position.

(6) The signal from the damper’s position indication device It shall be used to confirm confirmed visually that the damper reaches its is in the full-open position and that the position indication device confirms the position .

19.5.3.2 Testing for Dampers Without Position Indication.Testing of dampers without position indication shall comply with the following procedure:

(1) It shall be confirmed visually that the damper is in the full-open position.

(2) It shall be verified that all obstructions, including hands, are out of the path of the damper blades and then electrical power or air pressure shall be removed from the actuator to allow the actuator’s spring return feature to close the damper.

(3) It shall be confirmed visually that the damper closes completely.

(4) Electrical power or air pressure shall be reapplied to reopen the damper.

(5) It shall be confirmed visually that the damper is in the full-open position.


Position indication devices, such as position indicator lights, control panels or BAS, can, and will, report false positives that will go unconfirmed without visual inspection.

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19.5.3.1Testing of dampers with position indication wired to indication lights, control panels, or Building Automation System (BAS) shall comply with the following procedure:

(1) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm that the damper is in the full-open position.


(3) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-closed position A Fire Life Safety Technician will visually confirm hat the damper is in fact fully closed .


(5) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm A Fire Life Safety Technician will visually confirm that the damper reaches its full-open position.


A visual inspection will insure that the damper has in fact fully closed and opened and not slipping on the actuator shaft. In my inspection experience I find that this is a common occurrence.

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(1) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm that the damper is in the full-open position and verified with a visual check .


(3) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-closed position and confirmed with a visual check .


(5) The signal from the damper’s position indication device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-open position and confirmed with a visual check .

(6) The visual checks will help prevent false readings and operator overides during the testing of these devices.


The damper testing pertaining to section 19.5.3.1 concerning the use of indicator lights on dampers does not address the possibility of switch failures or operator overrides. Therefore a visual check of the damper position should be required for any and all testing of these devices. The indicator lights should only be used as a system monitor to alert the facility personal of a problem. The actual testing on these devices should have a visual check and the operation of the indicators should be verified at the same time.

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20.1.3.1Plans and specifications of a fire safety curtain system shall be developed in accordance with this standard by qualified persons who are certified by a thirdparty and have experience are experienced in the design, application, installation, and testing of fire safety curtain assemblies.


Restricting the designers of fire safety curtains only to third party certified persons eliminates many currently well qualified persons from designing fire safety curtains.

Persons certified as entertainment riggers under the existing program are well qualified to install, inspect, maintain and operate fire safety curtains. While many certified riggers are qualified to design fire safety curtain systems, their training and experience does not necessarily qualify them to design these systems. The existing program focuses on installation, maintenance, inspection and operation of theatrical rigging systems – not design - and fire safety curtains are a part of many theatrical rigging systems.

Certified riggers are well qualified to design theatrical rigging systems. However, fire safety curtains are special use equipment. Fire safety curtains and systems may require special knowledge, for example the interface to a fire alarm system that no other rigging system requires.

Many well qualified designers of fire safety curtains are certified riggers. Not all are certified riggers as their work does not require them to be certified as they are not performing the physical work of installation and the day to day operation of fire safety curtains, as well as other theatrical rigging systems and equipment.

Section 20.1.4.1 maintains the requirement that installation, maintenance and inspection be done by a person certified by a third party is appropriate.

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Public Comment No. 42-NFPA 80-2014 [ New Section after 20.9.5.2 ]


PUBLIC COMMENT #1

3.3.xx Fire Protective Curtain Assembly – Assembly typically consisting of a fabriccurtain, bottom bar, guides, coil, operating and closing system.

PUBLIC COMMENT #2

Chapter 21 – Fire Protective Curtain Assemblies

21.1 General

21.1.1* This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of fire protective curtain assemblies installed to protect vertical openings.

21.1.2* Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be fire tested in accordance with UL 10D, Fire Tests for Fire Protective Curtain Assemblies.

21.2 Mounting of Fire Protective Curtain Assemblies

21.2.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be mounted to supporting construction in accordance with their listing and with the manufacturer’s installation instructions.

21.2.2 Items that are not a part of a fire protective curtain assembly shall not be fieldattached to any component of a fire protective curtain assembly.

21.2.3 Access to, and clearances between, surrounding construction and a fire protective curtain assembly shall allow for required testing and maintenance.


21.3.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be either self-closing or automatic-closing.

21.3.1.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall not have a delay in the initiation of closing of more than 10 seconds.

21.3.1.2 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in/sec (152 mm/sec) or more than 24 in/sec (610mm/sec).


21.4 Power Operators

21.4.1 Power operators shall be provided with an emergency power source, or shall be capable of closing upon a loss of power.

21.5 Installation

21.5.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be installed in accordance with their listing and with the manufacturer's installation instructions.


21.6.1 Following completion of installation, fire protective curtains shall be inspected and tested in accordance with 21.7.


21.6.2.1 Records of acceptance testing following completion of installation shall be retained for the life of the assembly.




21.6.2.3 The records shall be on a medium that will survive the retention period. Paper or electronic media shall be permitted. [72:14.6.2.3]

21.6.2.4 A record of all inspections and testing shall be provided that includes, but is not limited to, the following information:







(7) Individual record of each inspected and tested fire protective curtain assembly

(8) Opening identifier and location of each inspected and tested fire protectivecurtain

(9) Type and description of each inspected and tested fire protective curtain



21.6.2.5 Upon completion of maintenance work, fire protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested in accordance with 21.7.


21.7.1 Acceptance testing of fire protective curtains assemblies shall be performed by a qualified person with knowledge and understanding of the operating components of the type of assembly being subject to testing.

21.7.2 Before testing, a visual inspection shall be performed to identify any damaged or missing parts that can create a hazard during testing or affect operation orresetting.

21.7.3 Acceptance testing shall include the closing of the fire protective curtain assembly by all means of activation.







(5) Attachments to jambs are with bolts, expansion anchors, or as otherwise requiredby the listing.

(6) Smoke detectors, if equipped, are installed, operational and in accordance with NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code.



(9) No field modifications to the fire protective curtain assembly have been performed that void the label.

(10) Fire protective curtain assemblies have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in./ sec (152 mm/sec) or more than 24 in./sec (610 mm/sec).

21.7.6 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be drop-tested twice.





21.7.7 Fusible links, release devices, and other moveable parts shall not be painted or coated with other materials that could interfere with the operation of the assembly.

21.8 Closing Devices

21.8.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested to check for proper operation and full closure.

21.8.2 Resetting of the automatic-closing device shall be performed in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions.


21.29.1 Periodic inspections and testing of fire protective curtain assemblies shall be performed not less than annually.


21.10 Maintenance.


21.10.2 Any breaks in the face covering of curtains shall be repaired in accordance with manufacturer’s requirements without delay.

21.10.3 Where a fire protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances is damaged to the extent that it could impair the assembly’s proper emergency function, the following actions shall be performed:

(1) The fire protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances shall be repaired with labeled parts or parts obtained from the original manufacturer.

(2) The fire protective curtain assembly shall be tested to ensure emergency operation and closing upon completion of the repairs.

21.10.4 If repairs cannot be made with labeled components or parts obtained from the original manufacturer, the fire protective curtain assembly or appurtenances shall be replaced.

PUBLIC COMMENT #3

A.21.1.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies are not to be confused with fabric fire safety curtain assemblies which are intended for use specifically on proscenium openings.

A.21.1.2 UL 10D covers the evaluation of fire protective curtain assemblies intended to provide supplemental, passive fire protection as part of an engineered fire protection system. Fire protective curtain assemblies provide non-structural separation only, and are not intended to be substituted for structural hourly ratedpartitions or opening protectives that have been tested for fire endurance and hose stream performance. While products tested to UL 10D are exposed to a standard temperature time curve and the test is a positive pressure test, the test does not include a hose stream test nor does it provide criteria regarding temperature rise on the unexposed surface. As an alternative, fire protective curtains tested in accordance with UL 10B, Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, or UL 10C, Positive Pressure Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, may be considered when acceptable to the Authority Having Jurisdiction.

A.21.3.2 Sections of a fire protective curtain may be sewn together by the manufacturer when such joints are included in the assembly that was tested in accordance with UL 10D.

PUBLIC COMMENT #4



K.4 Despite the provision of protection specified in this standard, walls with openings have less fire resistance than unpierced walls. Fire curtains, doors, shutters, and fire windows are designed to protect an opening under normal conditions of use, with a clear space on both sides of the opening. Where the opening is not used and combustible material is piled against the curtain, door, window, or shutter, the designed protection cannot be expected. For that reason, combustible material should be kept well away from openings. Where a door or window opening is no longer in use, the opening should be closed, with construction having a fire resistance rating equivalent to that of the wall.

K.5 Any assembly provided in accordance with the provisions of this standard does not necessarily provide the same degree of protection against the spread of fire that is provided by the wall in which the assembly is installed, assuming that the wall has fire resistance established in accordance with ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials. Therefore, the size and number of openings in any wall required to have fire resistance should be kept to the minimum necessary for the normal or emergency operation of the occupancy. Building and fire codes generally limit the extent of wall openings permitted within a defined length of wall because the protection is not equivalent. The user of this standard is encouraged to become familiar with the limitations of these other standards.

The use of assemblies covered in this standard in fire-resistive walls only for decorative, aesthetic, and similar purposes is not recommended. However, there are glazing systems using fire-resistant glazing materials that are actually fire-resistive walls tested in accordance with ASTM E119. Such systems can be permitted to be used as fire-resistive walls and are not within the scope of this standard.

There are developments in the area of glazing that demonstrate a resistance to thepassage of heat beyond that discussed in Annex I. Historically, the fire protection performance of glazing has been based on wired glass, which is capable of successfully meeting the fire exposure test criteria of NFPA 257, Standard on Fire Test for Window and Glass Block Assemblies, and which has been accepted as having a fire protection rating of 45 minutes. The fire protection–rated glazing materials are now capable of meeting the fire test criteria of NFPA257 for as long as 3 hours, and some have a low radiant heat transfer capability for as long as 1 hour and 11⁄2 hours. Safety glazing is also an important consideration where glazing materials are used in fire doors and in fire resistance–rated walls that could be subject to accidental human impact. In such applications, all model building codes contain requirements for safety glazing based on 16 CFR 1201, U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, “Standard for Architectural Glazing.”

K.8 Fire protective curtain assemblies are principally intended to be used to protect openings in fire separations that also provides a degree of smoke restriction.


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A.4.2.2An example of how a code might use the system for labeling fire-rated glazing is in interior applications is shown in Table A.4.2.2(a) .Table A.4.2.2 Minimum 2(a) Minimum Fire Ratings for Opening Protectives in Fire Resistance–Rated Assemblies and Fire-Rated Glazing Markings



ComponentWalls and Partitions

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Fire Door Assemblies

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DoorVision Panel

Maximum Size

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Fire-Rated

Glazing Marking

Door Vision Panel

Minimum Side Light/Transom Assembly

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Fire protection

Fire resistance p

Elevatorhoistways 2 1- 1 ⁄ 2 155 in. 2 c

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D-H-W-90 NP 2

1 1 155 in. 2 c

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1 ⁄ 2 1 ⁄ 3 85 in. 2 d

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D-W-20 1 ⁄ 3 1 ⁄ 3

Elevator lobby (per7.2.13.4) 1 1 100 in. 2 a

≤100in. 2 ,

D-H-T-60 or

D-H-W-60 NP 1

>100in. 2 ,

D-H-W-60

Vertical shafts(including stairways, exits and refuse chutes) 2 1- 1 ⁄ 2

Maximum size tested

D-H-90

or D-H-W-90 NP 2

1 1Maximum

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D-H-60

or D-H-W-60 NP 1

Replacement panels inexisting vertical shafts 1 ⁄ 2 1 ⁄ 3

Maximum size tested

D-20 or

D-W-20 1 ⁄ 3 1 ⁄ 3



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Fire protection

Fire resistance p

Fire barriers 3 3 100 in. 2 a

<=100in. 2 ,

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or D-H-W-180 NP 3

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size tested

D-H-90

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1 3 ⁄ 4

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1 ⁄ 2 1 ⁄ 3Maximum

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Horizontalexits 2 1- 1 ⁄ 2

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D-H-90

or D-H-W-90 NP 2

Horizontal exits served by bridges between buildings 2 3 ⁄ 4

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or D-H-W-45 3 ⁄ 4 e 3 ⁄ 4 e

Exit accesscorridors f 1 1 ⁄ 3

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1 ⁄ 2 1 ⁄ 3Maximum

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D-20 or

D-W-20 1 ⁄ 3 1 ⁄ 3

Smokebarriers f 1 1 ⁄ 3

Maximum size tested

D-20 or

D-W-20 3 ⁄ 4 3 ⁄ 4

Smokepartitions f,g 1 ⁄ 2 1 ⁄ 3

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D-20 or

D-W-20 1 ⁄ 3 1 ⁄ 3

For SI units, 1 in.2 = 0.00064516 m2.

NP: Not permitted.



aFire resistance–rated glazing tested to ASTM E 119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials, or ANSI/UL 263, Standard for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials, shall be permitted in the maximum size tested (see 8.3.3.7 of NFPA 101).bFire-rated glazing in exterior windows shall be marked in accordance with Table 8.3.3.12 of NFPA 101.

cSee ASME A17.1/CSA B44–2010, Safety Code for Elevators and Escalators, for additional information.

dSee ASME A17.3/CSA B44–13, Safety Code for Existing Elevators and Escalators, for additional information.

eMaximum area of individual exposed lights shall be 1296 in.2 (0.84 m2), with no dimension exceeding 54 in. (1.37 m) unless otherwise tested.[ 101 : Table 8.3.4.2].

fFire doors are not required to have a hose stream test per ANSI/UL 10B, Standard for Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, or ANSI/UL 10C, Standard for Positive Pressure Fire Tests of Door Assemblies.

gFor residential board and care, see 32.2.3.1 and 33.2.3.1 of NFPA 101.

[ 101 : Table 8.3.4.2].

An example of how a code might use the system for labeling fire-rated glazingin exterior wall applications is shown in Table A.4.2.2(b) .

Table A.4.2.2(b) Minimum Fire Ratings for Opening Protectives in Fire Resistance–Rated Assemblies and Fire-Rated Glazing Markings in Exterior Walls

ComponentWalls and

Partitions

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Panel

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FireRated

Glazing Marking

DoorVision

Panel

Minimum Side Transom

Assembly Rati

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Fireprotection resis

Exterior Walls 3 1 ½ 100 sq.

in.

≤100 sq.in. =D-H-90

>100sq.in.=D-H-

W-90

NP

2 1 ½Maximum

sizetested.

D-H-90 or D-H-W-

901 ½ 3

1 3/4Maximum

size tested

D-H-45 3/4

0.5 0.5Maximum

size tested

D-20 0.5 0

NP: Not permitted.



a. Fire resistance rated glazing tested to NFPA 251 shall be permitted in the maximum size tested, (See 8.3.3.7).

b. Fire-rated glazing in exterior windows shall be marked in accordance with Table 8.3.3.12

c. Note: 1 inch 2 = .00064516 m 2


The current table is extracted from NFPA 101 and as such cannot be modified. However, the information in the Annex is incomplete in that it does not address exterior wall applications. Therefore, the proposed language limits the existing table to interior applications and adds a new table for exterior wall applications. There are some editorial changes to the existing text to address the difference in applications for the two tables. In addition, the notation indicated that the existing table is extracted from NFPA 101 has been relocated.

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3.3.8 Automatic Fire Detector.

A device designed to detect the presence of a fire signature and to initiate action. For the purpose of thisstandard, automatic fire detectors are classified as follows: Automatic Fire Extinguishing or SuppressionSystem Operation Detector, Fire–Gas Detector, Heat Detector, Other Fire Detectors, Radiant Energy–Sensing Fire Detector, and Smoke Detector. [72, 2013]




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3.3.116 Smoke Detector.

A device that detects visible or invisible particles of combustion. [72, 2013]




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4.8.2 Sills and Thresholds .

4.8.2.1

In buildings with noncombustible floors, a sill shall not be required, provided the floor structure is extendedthrough the door opening.

4.8.2.2

In buildings with combustible floors or combustible floor coverings, a sill shall be required if the floorstructure is extended through the door opening, as combustible floor construction shall not be permitted toextend through the door opening.

4.8.2.3

Door openings required to be protected by 1?2 -hour or 1?3 -hour rated fire protection door assemblies shallbe exempted from the requirements of 4.8.2.2.

4.8.2.4

Sills shall be constructed of noncombustible materials.

4.8.2.5*

For swinging doors with builders hardware and special-purpose horizontally sliding accordion or foldingdoors with frames having a jamb depth of 4 in. (102 mm) or less, the sill width shall be equal to the jambdepth.

4.8.2.6*

Where frames have a greater jamb depth, the sills shall have a minimum width of 4 in. (102 mm) and shallbe installed so that the sill extends from the face of the frame on the door side into the frame.

4.8.2.7

For swinging doors with fire door hardware, sills shall extend at least the depth of the door frame for flush-mounted doors.

4.8.2.8*

For lap-mounted doors, sills shall extend beyond the opening for a length equal to the projection of theinstalled door or doors.

4.8.2.9*

For horizontally sliding fire doors and vertically sliding fire doors, sills shall be constructed ofnoncombustible material and shall extend 6 in. (152 mm) past the edge of the opening on each side and 4in. (102 mm) out from the face of the wall.

4.8.2.10 Rolling Steel Fire Doors.

For rolling steel fire doors, sills shall be constructed of noncombustible material, shall extend past eachjamb as necessary to be completely under the guides, and shall extend out from the centerline of the guidegroove a minimum of 4 in. (102 mm) on each side to accommodate deflection of the bottom bar.

4.8.2.11

For service counter fire doors, sills shall be provided as part of the fire door assembly.

4.8.2.12

Flush concrete sills shall extend to the wall opening on both sides.

4.8.2.13*

For swinging doors with builders hardware, horizontally sliding doors, and special-purpose horizontallysliding accordion or folding doors, raised noncombustible sills or thresholds shall be permitted wherevercombustible floor coverings are contemplated or are in use on one or both sides of the door openings.




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4.8.4 Clearance.

4.8.4.1 *

The The clearance under the bottom of a door shall be

a maximum of 3 ? 4an average of ¾ in. edge to edge (19 mm) but at no point shall the clearance exceed 1 in .

4.8.4.2

Where* The clearance under the bottom of

the door is more than 38 in. (965 mm) above the finished floor, the maximum clearance shall not exceed3 ? 8 in. (9.5 mm) or as specified by the manufacturer's label service procedurea door shall be a maximum of ¾ in. at the location of a bottom latch bolt .



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5.5.7

When fastener holes are left in a door or frame due to changes or removal of hardware or plant-ons, theholes shall be repaired by one of the following methods:

(1) Install steel fasteners that completely fill cover the holes

(2) Fill the screw or bolt holes with the same material as the door or frame

(3) Fill holes with material listed for this use and installed in accordance with the manufacturer’sprocedures.

5.5.8 Holes, other than those as described by 5.5.7 shall be treated as a field modification in accordancewith 5.1.4.




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Proposing revisions to NFPA 80 to address repairs of doors. Products are listed for repairing holesin fire doors. The proposed language allows for these listed products. The intent of Secton 5.5.7was originally to apply to fastener holes. As written, the section could have applied to all holes, of allshapes and sizes, in a fire door. Additional language clarifies the intent of the section.

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Committee Input No. 58-NFPA 80-2013 [ New Section after 20.9.5.2 ]

Chapter 21 - Fire Protective Curtains

21.1 General

21.1.1 This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintence of fire protective curtainassemblies.

21.1.2 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be in accordance with UL 10D, Fire Tests for Fire ProtectiveCurtains.



21.2.1 Fire protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested not less than annually.




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Committee Statement

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NFPA 80 currently does not address fire protective curtain assemblies. A new standard has beendeveloped by UL, Fire Tests for Fire Protective Curtains, which should be followed for the installationof these products. A Committee Input is being developed so as to further investigate and develop achapter to address these types of opening protectives. These products are different than the currentChapter 20 for fabric fire safety curtains.

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6.5.1Acceptance testing of smoke dampers shall be performed by a qualified person with , approved by the Authority Having Jurisdiction , withknowledge and understanding of the operating components of the type ofassembly to be tested.


NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC) submits this Public Comment to require the qualified person be approved. Without clarification, there is no guidance as to who a qualified person is, or how they are qualified.

Related ItemFirst Revision No. 22-NFPA 105-2013 [New Section after 6.4.1.6]


Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir

Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, Washington

Affilliation: NFPA's Building Code Development Committee (BCDC)

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6.5.1Acceptance testing of smoke dampers shall be performed by a qualified person (define this person) What makes a person qualified? ANSI? with knowledge and understanding of the operating components of the type of assembly to be tested.


Many AHJ define this qualified person differently. Some say uncle Buck is Ok to do this work because he is a car mechanic, other AHJ's say the person must be a degreed engineer. I would help to define the intention of NFPA when the term qualified is used.



Submitter Full Name: JOHN HAMILTON

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6.6.5 Periodic Testing for Fusible Link – Operated Dampers.Testing of fusible link–operated dampers shall comply with the following procedures:

(1) For safety considerations, the fan shall be off.

(2) The fusible link shall be removed with the damper in the full-open position. Before the fusible link is removed, it shall be verified that all obstructions, including hands, are out of the path of the damper blades.

(3) The damper shall close completely without assistance once the fusible link is removed. If the damper is designed with a latch to hold the damper in the full-closed position, the damper shall latch properly. It should be noted here that the latch must face the access door and not be installed backwards as per the manufacture guidelines.

(4) The damper shall be returned to the full-open position and the fusible link shall be replaced. If the link appears damaged, it shall be replaced with a functionally equivalent link.


Many times dampers are installed with the lock opposite the access door and it makes it a real bugger to re-open and can lead to damage to the fire damper itself.

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Public Input No. 1-NFPA 105-2013 [New Section after 5.2.1]




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6.6.6.1Testing of dampers with position indication wired to indication lights, control panels, or Building Automation System (BAS) shall comply with the following procedure: Delete this in its entirerty. This isa road that is unacceptable becasue the only way to really know if the damper is working is to watch it open and close with a person. We have witnessed many of these sensors reading the worng postion on dampers.

(1) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device shall be used to confirm that the damper is in the full-open position. When istalling sensors in duct sytems they are exposed to a varitiey of things that lead to failure or erronous readings.

(2) The damper shall be commanded to the closed position. This process is not defined at all a leaves all kinds of room for a failed inspection process.

(3) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-closed position.


(5) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-open position.


Many bad sensors and indicators are found with the manual inspection process. That is why there is a inspection process in the first place. It seems NFPA wants to move away from making sure fire smoke dampers work in a event.





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(1) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device It shall be used to confirm that confirmed visually that the damper is in the full-open position and the position indication device shows the same .

(2) It shall be verified that all obstructions, including hands, are out of the path of the damper blades and then electrical power or air pressure shall be removed from the actuator to allow the actuator's spring return feature to close the damper.


(4) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device It shall be used to confirm that confirmed visually that the damper reaches its full-closed position and that the position indication device confirms the position .


(6) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device It shall be used to confirm confirmed visually that the damper reaches its full-open position and that the position indication device confirms the position .


Position indication devices, such as position indicator lights, control panels or BAS, can, and will, report false positives that will go unconfirmed without visual inspection.

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(1) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device shall be used to confirm that the damper is in the full-open position.


(3) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-closed position.


(5) The signal from the damper’s position indicator device shall be used to confirm that the damper reaches its full-open position.


There should be a visual confirmation to insure the blades fully open and fully close. A signal is not enough.



Submitter Full Name: Carol Brady

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Public Comment No. 11-NFPA 105-2014 [ Section No. 7.3.1

[Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

Non-fire-rated door leaves shall not be less than 1¾ in. (44 mm) thick, solid-bonded wood core or of equivalent design that resists fire for a minimum of 20 minutes resist the passage of smoke when the door is fully closed .


If non-fire-rated door leaves are only required to resist the passage of smoke, why should they be required to be equivalent to a 20-minute fire rated door? The Life Safety Code does not require this level of construction for a non-fire-rated smoke barrier door. The editorial comment in the Life Safety Code Handbook says that such doors can be hollow-core or even glass doors.

Related ItemFirst Revision No. 17-NFPA 105-2013 [New Section after 6.6.6]




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7.3.5.1 * Self-Closing.Self-closing doors shall swing easily and freely and shall be equipped with a closing device that closes and latches the door each time it is opened. The doors shall latch when latching devices are provided.


Latches are not always required on smoke barrier doors. Example: smoke barrier doors in a health care occupancy per NFPA 101.





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7.3.5.3 Automatic Closing.Automatic-closing doors shall be permitted to close automatically by means of the installation of a closing device and one of the and the following:A separate, labeled, fail-safe door holder/release device(s) or a

(1) Upon release of the hold-open mechanism

that shall be permitted to be an integral part of the basic closing device and a door holder device that manually releases the door when pulled or pushed

An integral closing device that allows the doors to swing freely and that automatically closes the doors during an alarm condition, provided the hold-open mechanisms are released by one or a combination of automatic fire detectors acceptable to the AHJ, and a hold-open mechanism that manually releases the door when pulled or pushed

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, the leaf becomes self-closing.

(2) The release device is designed so that the leaf instantly releases manually and, upon release, becomes self-closing, or the leaf can be readily closed.

(3) The automatic releasing mechanism or medium is activated by the operation of approved smoke detectors installed in accordance with the requirements for smoke detectors for door leaf release service in NFPA 72 , National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code .

(4) Upon loss of power to the hold-open device, the hold open mechanism is released and the door leaf becomes self-closing.

(5) The release by means of smoke detection of one door leaf in a stair enclosure results in closing all door leaves serving that stair.


The current language is not consistent with the Life Safety Code and does not require it to be fail-safe. Proposed language is taken from the Life Safety Code.







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Public Comment #1

3.3.xx Smoke protective Curtain Assembly – Assembly typically consisting of afabric curtain, bottom bar, guides, coil, operating and closing system.

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Chapter 8 – Smoke Protective Curtain Assemblies

8.1 General

8.1.1* This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of smoke protective curtain assemblies installed to protect vertical openings.

8.1.2* Smoke protective curtain assemblies that are protecting vertical openingsshall be air leakage tested in accordance with UL 1784, Air Leakage Tests for Door Assemblies.8.2 Mounting of Smoke Protective Curtain Assemblies

8.2.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be mounted to supporting construction in accordance with their listing and with the manufacturer’s installationinstructions.

8.2.2 Items that are not a part of a smoke protective curtain assembly shall not be field attached to any component of a smoke protective curtain assembly.

8.2.3 Access to, and clearances between, surrounding construction and a smoke protective curtain assembly shall allow for required testing and maintenance.


8.3.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be either self-closing or automatic-closing.

8.3.1.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall not have a delay in the initiation of closing of more than 10 seconds.

8.3.1.2 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall have an average closing speed of not less than 6 in/sec (152 mm/sec) or more than 24 in/sec (610mm/sec).


8.4 Power Operators

8.4.1 Power operators shall be provided with an emergency power source, or shall be capable of closing upon a loss of power.

8.5 Installation

8.5.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be installed in accordance with their listing and with the manufacturer's installation instructions.


8.6.1 Following completion of installation, smoke protective curtains shall be inspected and tested in accordance with 8.7.


8.6.2.1 Records of acceptance testing following completion of installation shall be retained for the life of the assembly.




8.6.2.3 The records shall be on a medium that will survive the retention period. Paper or electronic media shall be permitted. [72:14.6.2.3]

8.6.2.4 A record of all inspections and testing shall be provided that includes, but is not limited to, the following information:







(7) Individual record of each inspected and tested smoke protective curtain assembly

(8) Opening identifier and location of each inspected and tested smoke protectivecurtain

(9) Type and description of each inspected and tested smoke protective curtain



8.6.2.5 Upon completion of maintenance work, smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested in accordance with 8.7.


8.7.1 Acceptance testing of smoke protective curtains assemblies shall be performed by a qualified person with knowledge and understanding of the operating components of the type of assembly being subject to testing.

8.7.2 Before testing, a visual inspection shall be performed to identify any damaged or missing parts that can create a hazard during testing or affect operation orresetting.

8.7.3 Acceptance testing shall include the closing of the smoke protective curtain assembly by all means of activation.







(5) Attachments to jambs are with bolts, expansion anchors, or as otherwise requiredby the listing.

(6) Smoke detectors, if equipped, are installed, operational and in accordance with NFPA 72, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code.



(9) No field modifications to the smoke protective curtain assembly have been performed that void the label.

(10) Smoke protective curtain assemblies have an average closing speed of not lessthan 6 in./ sec (152 mm/sec) or more than 24 in./sec (610 mm/sec).



8.7.6 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be drop-tested twice.



8.7.7 Fusible links, release devices, and other moveable parts shall not be painted or coated with other materials that could interfere with the operation of the assembly.

8.8 Closing Devices

8.8.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested to check for proper operation and full closure.

8.8.2 Resetting of the automatic-closing device shall be performed in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions.


8.29.1 Periodic inspections and testing of smoke protective curtain assemblies shall be performed not less than annually.


8.10 Maintenance.


8.10.2 Any breaks in the face covering of curtains shall be repaired in accordance with manufacturer’s requirements without delay.

8.10.3 Where a smoke protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances is damaged to the extent that it could impair the assembly’s proper emergency function, the following actions shall be performed:

(1) The smoke protective curtain assembly or any part of its appurtenances shall be repaired with labeled parts or parts obtained from the original manufacturer.

(2) The smoke protective curtain assembly shall be tested to ensure emergency operation and closing upon completion of the repairs.

8.10.4 If repairs cannot be made with labeled components or parts obtained from the original manufacturer, the smoke protective curtain assembly or appurtenances shall be replaced.

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A.8.1.1 Smoke protective curtain assemblies are not to be confused with fabric fire safety curtain assemblies which are intended for use specifically on prosceniumopenings.

A.8.3.2 Sections of a smoke protective curtain may be sewn together by the manufacturer when such joints are included in the assembly that was tested in accordance with UL 10D.


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Related ItemCommittee Input No. 19-NFPA 105-2013 [New Section after 6.6.6]




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Committee Input No. 19-NFPA 105-2013 [ New Section after 6.6.6 ]

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Committee Statement and Meeting Notes

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NFPA 105 currently does not address smoke curtain assemblies.A Committee Input isbeing developed so as to further investigate and develop a chapter to address these typesof opening protectives. These products are being used in the field but no guidance isprovided by the standards at this time.

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Chapter 8 - Smoke Curtains

21.1 General.

21.1.1 This chapter shall cover the installation, inspection, testing, and maintenance of smoke

curtain assemblies.

21.1.2 Smoke curtain assemblies shall be in accordance with UL 1784, Standard for Air Leakage

Tests of Door Assemblies.

21.1.3 Smoke curtain assemblies shall be installed in accordance with their listing and with the

manufacturer's installation instructions.

21.2 Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance.

21.2.1 Smoke curtain assemblies shall be inspected and tested not less than annually.

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AGENDA ITEM #11 Agenda Item #11-a

I am in the process of updating some of our training materials and “stumbled” across something that we might want to “fix” for the 2016 edition. In 4.3.4 the term “exit devices” is used in reference to fire exit hardware (see 4.3.3). At this stage of the revision process, is it possible to make an editorial change from “exit devices” to “fire exit hardware”? Making this correction does not change any technical requirements… The term “exit devices” is used to generically discuss panic hardware and fire exit hardware. Since panic hardware is not permitted to be used on fire doors, the term fire exit hardware seems to be more appropriate than the term exit devices. Proposed Change: 4.3.4 The label described in 4.3.3 shall address the reinforcements necessary for the exit devices fire exit hardware, and the complete fire door assembly shall have been tested for egress panic load requirements. Agenda Item #11-b

I am in the process of updating one our courses and discovered what appears to be a typo in paragraph A.5.1.4.1. The second sentence begins with “paragraph 4.1.4.2.1…” I think the referenced paragraph address is incorrect; shouldn’t the referenced paragraph address be 5.1.4.1 – the subject of the annex comment? Proposed change A.5.1.4.1 Field modifications beyond the scope of the prescriptive allowances permitted by 4.1.3.2 through 4.1.3.2.5 typically results in voiding the fire rating of the assembly. Paragraph 4.1.4.2.1 5.1.4.1 provides and alternative method whereby proposed modifications can be documented and presented to the labeling agency prior to work commencing. Where the proposed modification(s)… Agenda Item #11-c Proposed change 4.8.6* Where permitted by the individual door assembly listing, expansion anchors used in concrete, brick, or filled concrete

masonry unit walls shall meet the following conditions:

(1) Expansion anchors shall be manufactured from steel and shall be zinc-coated or cadmium-coated.

(2) Expansion anchors shall conform to Federal Specification A-A-1923A, Shield Expansion (Lag, Machine and Externally

Threaded Wedge); A-A-1924A, Shield, Expansion (Self

Drilling Tubular Expansion Shell Bolt); or A-A-55614, Shield, Expansion (Non-Drilling Expansion Anchors).

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(3) The compressive strength of the concrete shall not be less than 2000 psi (13,790 kPa), and the bolt load shall not exceed 1⁄4 of

the proof test load.

(4) Where used in brick or filled concrete masonry unit walls, the bolt load shall not exceed 1⁄12 of the proof test load.

(5) No expansion anchor shall be set closer to the edge of the wall opening greater than 6 times the diameter of the anchor or

closer to another anchor greater than 8 times the diameter of the anchor. Agenda Item #11-d Kristin,

Ron and I discussed this last week a little bit and thought that there might be a mistake in NFPA 80 section A.4.8.4.1. I think the

worst case condition is in 80, not 252. Let me know what you think. Thanks.

NFPA 80:

A.4.8.4.1 The maximum clearance of 3⁄4 in. (19 mm.) under fire doors as permitted by this standard is the accepted practice in the

industry. NFPA252, Standard Methods of Fire Tests of Door Assemblies, is a test standard, not an installation standard, and

prescribes clearances and tolerances for swinging doors installed in the test wall opening. The test procedures as specified in

NFPA 252 represent a worst-case condition for the fire test.

NFPA 252:

5.3 Clearances.

5.3.1 Clearances for swinging doors installed in the test wall opening shall be permitted to have a tolerance up to −1.6 mm

(−1⁄16 in.) as follows:

(1) 3 mm (1⁄8 in.) along the top

(2) 3 mm (1⁄8 in.) along the hinge and latch jambs

(3) 3 mm (1⁄8 in.) along the meeting edges of doors in pairs

(4) 10 mm (3⁄8 in.) at the bottom edge of a single swinging door

(5) 6 mm (1⁄4 in.) at the bottom edge of a pair of doors Proposed change? (need committee input on this) A.4.8.4.1 The maximum clearance of 3⁄4 in. (19 mm.) under fire doors as permitted by this standard is the accepted practice in the industry. NFPA 252 is a test standard, not an installation standard, and prescribes clearances and tolerances for swinging doors installed in the test wall opening. The test procedures as specified in NFPA 252 represent a worst-case condition for the fire test. Agenda Item #11-e NFPA 80, Section 17.1.2.1 currently states the following,

17.1.2.1 Fire windows shall be tested in accordance with NFPA 257, Standard on

Fire Test for Window and Glass Block Assemblies, and ANSI/UL 9, Standard for

Fire Tests of Window Assemblies, for the required fire protection rating of the

window opening.

Should this read NFPA 257 OR ANSI/UL 9? It currently requires both tests for fire windows. Proposed Change:

17.1.2.1 Fire windows shall be tested in accordance with NFPA 257, Standard on

Fire Test for Window and Glass Block Assemblies, and or ANSI/UL 9, Standard

for Fire Tests of Window Assemblies, for the required fire protection rating of the

window opening.

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Agenda Item #11-f For discussion: NFPA 80 permits the use of listed louvers in fire doors. We have recently encountered a situation where a building official wanted to activate the louver to ensure its operability. I suspect he was viewing the louver in the same context as a damper. The problem occurs in the replacement of the fusible link. The louver needs to be demounted from the door to access the spring mechanism. I suspect the replacement of the link could fall under the field modification section of the standard. Also, there are intumescent type louvers. Checking their operability would not be feasible. Perhaps the subject can be broadened to include hardware. I believe that there are some devices that employ fusible links that render the hardware inoperable. Also the use of spring bolts that are actuated by heat are becoming more common when used with top latch only vertical rod fire exit hardware. I don't believe we want building inspectors activating these components since it would cause the device to be replaced.

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