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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

Aleksander Ivanov

Institute of MathematicsSilesian Universyty of Technology

July 27, 2016

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric groups with bi-invariant metrics

We consider metric groups (G , ·, d) which are complete metricspaces where the metric d is bi-invariant and is bounded by 1.

d(x1, x2) = d(x−11 , x−1

2 ) and

d(x1, x2) = d(x1 · y , x2 · y) = d(y · x1, y · x2)

for all y ∈ M.

Let G be the class of all metric groups as above.

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric groups with bi-invariant metrics

We consider metric groups (G , ·, d) which are complete metricspaces where the metric d is bi-invariant and is bounded by 1.

d(x1, x2) = d(x−11 , x−1

2 ) and

d(x1, x2) = d(x1 · y , x2 · y) = d(y · x1, y · x2)

for all y ∈ M.

Let G be the class of all metric groups as above.

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric groups with bi-invariant metrics

We consider metric groups (G , ·, d) which are complete metricspaces where the metric d is bi-invariant and is bounded by 1.

d(x1, x2) = d(x−11 , x−1

2 ) and

d(x1, x2) = d(x1 · y , x2 · y) = d(y · x1, y · x2)

for all y ∈ M.

Let G be the class of all metric groups as above.

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Ultraproducts

The metric in the ultraproduct∏

I (Gi , di )/D is defined by

d((gi )I , (g′i )I ) = limi→Ddi (gi , g

′i ),

i.e. by the rule that the distance between (gi )I and (g ′i )I is in theinterval (ε1, ε2) if and only if the set {i : di (gi , g

′i ) ∈ (ε1, ε2)}

belongs to the ultrafilter D.∏I (Gi , di )/D consists of classes of the relation d((xi )I , (yi )I ) = 0.

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Ultraproducts

The metric in the ultraproduct∏

I (Gi , di )/D is defined by

d((gi )I , (g′i )I ) = limi→Ddi (gi , g

′i ),

i.e. by the rule that the distance between (gi )I and (g ′i )I is in theinterval (ε1, ε2) if and only if the set {i : di (gi , g

′i ) ∈ (ε1, ε2)}

belongs to the ultrafilter D.∏I (Gi , di )/D consists of classes of the relation d((xi )I , (yi )I ) = 0.

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Ultraproducts

The metric in the ultraproduct∏

I (Gi , di )/D is defined by

d((gi )I , (g′i )I ) = limi→Ddi (gi , g

′i ),

i.e. by the rule that the distance between (gi )I and (g ′i )I is in theinterval (ε1, ε2) if and only if the set {i : di (gi , g

′i ) ∈ (ε1, ε2)}

belongs to the ultrafilter D.∏I (Gi , di )/D consists of classes of the relation d((xi )I , (yi )I ) = 0.

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Soficity

Hamming metric: For g , h ∈ Sn let

dH(g , h) =supp(g−1h)

n.

An abstract group is sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite symmetric groups with Hamming metrics.

Basic problem (Gromov): Is any group sofic?

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Soficity

Hamming metric: For g , h ∈ Sn let

dH(g , h) =supp(g−1h)

n.

An abstract group is sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite symmetric groups with Hamming metrics.

Basic problem (Gromov): Is any group sofic?

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Soficity

Hamming metric: For g , h ∈ Sn let

dH(g , h) =supp(g−1h)

n.

An abstract group is sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite symmetric groups with Hamming metrics.

Basic problem (Gromov): Is any group sofic?

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear soficity, weak soficity,...

For a, b ∈ GLn(C) let

ρ(a, b) = n−1rk(a− b).

An abstract group is linear sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(GLn(C), ρ) : n ∈ N} (Arzhantseva, Paunescu).An abstract group is weakly sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite groups with bi-invariant metrics ≤ 1.An abstract group is hyperlinear if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(Un(C), dHS) : n ∈ N}, where dHS is thenormalised Hilbert-Schmidt metric (i.e. the standard l2 distancebetween matrices).

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear soficity, weak soficity,...

For a, b ∈ GLn(C) let

ρ(a, b) = n−1rk(a− b).

An abstract group is linear sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(GLn(C), ρ) : n ∈ N} (Arzhantseva, Paunescu).An abstract group is weakly sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite groups with bi-invariant metrics ≤ 1.An abstract group is hyperlinear if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(Un(C), dHS) : n ∈ N}, where dHS is thenormalised Hilbert-Schmidt metric (i.e. the standard l2 distancebetween matrices).

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear soficity, weak soficity,...

For a, b ∈ GLn(C) let

ρ(a, b) = n−1rk(a− b).

An abstract group is linear sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(GLn(C), ρ) : n ∈ N} (Arzhantseva, Paunescu).An abstract group is weakly sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite groups with bi-invariant metrics ≤ 1.An abstract group is hyperlinear if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(Un(C), dHS) : n ∈ N}, where dHS is thenormalised Hilbert-Schmidt metric (i.e. the standard l2 distancebetween matrices).

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear soficity, weak soficity,...

For a, b ∈ GLn(C) let

ρ(a, b) = n−1rk(a− b).

An abstract group is linear sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(GLn(C), ρ) : n ∈ N} (Arzhantseva, Paunescu).An abstract group is weakly sofic if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of finite groups with bi-invariant metrics ≤ 1.An abstract group is hyperlinear if it is embeddable into a metricultraproduct of {(Un(C), dHS) : n ∈ N}, where dHS is thenormalised Hilbert-Schmidt metric (i.e. the standard l2 distancebetween matrices).

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Relations

Soficity ` Linear Soficity ` Weak soficityandSoficity ` Hyperlinearity

Problem: Is any group weakly sofic (hyperlinear)?

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Relations

Soficity ` Linear Soficity ` Weak soficityandSoficity ` Hyperlinearity

Problem: Is any group weakly sofic (hyperlinear)?

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric soficity

Metric sofic groups. Let Gsof be the class of complete metricgroups with bi-invariant metrics of diameter 1, which areembeddable as closed metric subgroups into a metric ultraproductof finite symmetric groups with Hamming metrics.The set of all abstract sofic groups consists of all discretestructures of the class Gsof .

Is G = Gsof ?

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric soficity

Metric sofic groups. Let Gsof be the class of complete metricgroups with bi-invariant metrics of diameter 1, which areembeddable as closed metric subgroups into a metric ultraproductof finite symmetric groups with Hamming metrics.The set of all abstract sofic groups consists of all discretestructures of the class Gsof .

Is G = Gsof ?

Aleksander Ivanov Metric ultraproducts of finite metric groups

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Metric soficity

Metric sofic groups. Let Gsof be the class of complete metricgroups with bi-invariant metrics of diameter 1, which areembeddable as closed metric subgroups into a metric ultraproductof finite symmetric groups with Hamming metrics.The set of all abstract sofic groups consists of all discretestructures of the class Gsof .

Is G = Gsof ?

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear sofic metric groups,...

Let us define:Ghyplin = hyperlinear metric groups = metric groups withbi-invariant metrics of diameter 1, which are embeddable as closedsubgroups into a metric ultraproduct of all (U(n), 1

2dHS), n ∈ N.Gl .sof = linear sofic metric groups = .....(GLn(C), ρ), n ∈ N.Gw .sof = weakly sofic metric groups = ....finite metric groups of diameter ≤ 1.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear sofic metric groups,...

Let us define:Ghyplin = hyperlinear metric groups = metric groups withbi-invariant metrics of diameter 1, which are embeddable as closedsubgroups into a metric ultraproduct of all (U(n), 1

2dHS), n ∈ N.Gl .sof = linear sofic metric groups = .....(GLn(C), ρ), n ∈ N.Gw .sof = weakly sofic metric groups = ....finite metric groups of diameter ≤ 1.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Linear sofic metric groups,...

Let us define:Ghyplin = hyperlinear metric groups = metric groups withbi-invariant metrics of diameter 1, which are embeddable as closedsubgroups into a metric ultraproduct of all (U(n), 1

2dHS), n ∈ N.Gl .sof = linear sofic metric groups = .....(GLn(C), ρ), n ∈ N.Gw .sof = weakly sofic metric groups = ....finite metric groups of diameter ≤ 1.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Relations, the metric case

Gsof ⊆ Gw .sof ⊆ G

Gl .sof ⊆ Gw .sof

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Axiomatisability

Let C be a class of continuous metric structures.(For exmple let C be a class of mtrc grps as above, i.e. C ⊂ G. )

Theorem

(1) The class C is axiomatisable in continuous logic if an only if itis closed under metric isomorphisms, ultraproducts and takingelementary submodels.(2) The class C is axiomatisable in continuous logic by Thcsup(C)if an only if it is closed under metric isomorphisms, ultraproductsand taking substructures.

Corollary

The classes Gsof , Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof are sup-axiomatisable (i.e.by its theories Thcsup).

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Axiomatisability

Let C be a class of continuous metric structures.(For exmple let C be a class of mtrc grps as above, i.e. C ⊂ G. )

Theorem

(1) The class C is axiomatisable in continuous logic if an only if itis closed under metric isomorphisms, ultraproducts and takingelementary submodels.(2) The class C is axiomatisable in continuous logic by Thcsup(C)if an only if it is closed under metric isomorphisms, ultraproductsand taking substructures.

Corollary

The classes Gsof , Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof are sup-axiomatisable (i.e.by its theories Thcsup).

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Axiomatisability

Let C be a class of continuous metric structures.(For exmple let C be a class of mtrc grps as above, i.e. C ⊂ G. )

Theorem

(1) The class C is axiomatisable in continuous logic if an only if itis closed under metric isomorphisms, ultraproducts and takingelementary submodels.(2) The class C is axiomatisable in continuous logic by Thcsup(C)if an only if it is closed under metric isomorphisms, ultraproductsand taking substructures.

Corollary

The classes Gsof , Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof are sup-axiomatisable (i.e.by its theories Thcsup).

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Gsof 6= Gw .sof .

Let p be a prime number ≥ 13. Let us consider the cyclic groupZ(p) with respect to so called Lee norm and Lee distances:

lLee(a) =2min(a, p − a)

p − 1, dLee(a, b) = lLee(a− b).

(V.Batagelj , J.Combin.Inform. System Sci. 20(1995), no. 1 - 4,243 - 252.)

Theorem

The metric group (Z(p), dLee) does not belong to the classesGsof ∪ Gl .sof ∪ Ghyplin.

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Gsof 6= Gw .sof .

Let p be a prime number ≥ 13. Let us consider the cyclic groupZ(p) with respect to so called Lee norm and Lee distances:

lLee(a) =2min(a, p − a)

p − 1, dLee(a, b) = lLee(a− b).

(V.Batagelj , J.Combin.Inform. System Sci. 20(1995), no. 1 - 4,243 - 252.)

Theorem

The metric group (Z(p), dLee) does not belong to the classesGsof ∪ Gl .sof ∪ Ghyplin.

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Reduction to the case of discrete structures

If two classes K1 , K2 from the collection

{G,Gsof ,Gw .sof ,Ghyplin,Gl .sof }have the same countable discrete structures, then K1 = K2.

Indeed if K1 and K2 have the same discrete structures then theyare generated as axiomatizable classes by the same set ofstructures.

Theorem

Let (G , d) be a bi-invariant metric group so that d ≤ 1. Then thefollowing statements hold.1. (G , d) is a closed subgroup of a metric ultraproduct of discretebi-invriant metric groups.2. If (G , d) is hyperlinear then (G , d) is a closed subgroup of ametric ultraproduct of discrete bi-invriant metric groups which arehyperlinear.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Reduction to the case of discrete structures

If two classes K1 , K2 from the collection

{G,Gsof ,Gw .sof ,Ghyplin,Gl .sof }have the same countable discrete structures, then K1 = K2.

Indeed if K1 and K2 have the same discrete structures then theyare generated as axiomatizable classes by the same set ofstructures.

Theorem

Let (G , d) be a bi-invariant metric group so that d ≤ 1. Then thefollowing statements hold.1. (G , d) is a closed subgroup of a metric ultraproduct of discretebi-invriant metric groups.2. If (G , d) is hyperlinear then (G , d) is a closed subgroup of ametric ultraproduct of discrete bi-invriant metric groups which arehyperlinear.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Reduction to the case of discrete structures

If two classes K1 , K2 from the collection

{G,Gsof ,Gw .sof ,Ghyplin,Gl .sof }have the same countable discrete structures, then K1 = K2.

Indeed if K1 and K2 have the same discrete structures then theyare generated as axiomatizable classes by the same set ofstructures.

Theorem

Let (G , d) be a bi-invariant metric group so that d ≤ 1. Then thefollowing statements hold.1. (G , d) is a closed subgroup of a metric ultraproduct of discretebi-invriant metric groups.2. If (G , d) is hyperlinear then (G , d) is a closed subgroup of ametric ultraproduct of discrete bi-invriant metric groups which arehyperlinear.

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Weakly sofic metric groups

Problem: Is G = Gw .sof ?

M.Doucha:It is enough to prove that any finitely generated free group with adiscrete bi-invariant metric ≤ 1 is weakly sofic(any member of G is a closed subgroup of a metric ultraproduct offinitely generated free groups with discrete bi-invriant metrics ≤ 1).

The question is equivalent to extreme amenability of the universalPolish metric group (G, d) constructed by M.Doucha.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Weakly sofic metric groups

Problem: Is G = Gw .sof ?

M.Doucha:It is enough to prove that any finitely generated free group with adiscrete bi-invariant metric ≤ 1 is weakly sofic(any member of G is a closed subgroup of a metric ultraproduct offinitely generated free groups with discrete bi-invriant metrics ≤ 1).

The question is equivalent to extreme amenability of the universalPolish metric group (G, d) constructed by M.Doucha.

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Weakly sofic metric groups

Problem: Is G = Gw .sof ?

M.Doucha:It is enough to prove that any finitely generated free group with adiscrete bi-invariant metric ≤ 1 is weakly sofic(any member of G is a closed subgroup of a metric ultraproduct offinitely generated free groups with discrete bi-invriant metrics ≤ 1).

The question is equivalent to extreme amenability of the universalPolish metric group (G, d) constructed by M.Doucha.

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Shifting metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and ε ∈ [0, 1]. Let:

dε(g , h) =d(g , h) + ε

1 + ε, for g 6= h.

We call dε the ε-shift of d .(G , dε) is discrete.

Theorem

If (G , d) is a sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group then (G , dε) isa sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group too.

There is a version of this theorem for linear soficity, where forg 6= h,

dωε (g , h) ≥ ε

4 + 4ε;

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Shifting metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and ε ∈ [0, 1]. Let:

dε(g , h) =d(g , h) + ε

1 + ε, for g 6= h.

We call dε the ε-shift of d .(G , dε) is discrete.

Theorem

If (G , d) is a sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group then (G , dε) isa sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group too.

There is a version of this theorem for linear soficity, where forg 6= h,

dωε (g , h) ≥ ε

4 + 4ε;

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Shifting metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and ε ∈ [0, 1]. Let:

dε(g , h) =d(g , h) + ε

1 + ε, for g 6= h.

We call dε the ε-shift of d .(G , dε) is discrete.

Theorem

If (G , d) is a sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group then (G , dε) isa sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group too.

There is a version of this theorem for linear soficity, where forg 6= h,

dωε (g , h) ≥ ε

4 + 4ε;

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Metric ultraproductsAxiomatisable classes of metric groups

Shifting metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and ε ∈ [0, 1]. Let:

dε(g , h) =d(g , h) + ε

1 + ε, for g 6= h.

We call dε the ε-shift of d .(G , dε) is discrete.

Theorem

If (G , d) is a sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group then (G , dε) isa sofic (resp. hyperlinear) metric group too.

There is a version of this theorem for linear soficity, where forg 6= h,

dωε (g , h) ≥ ε

4 + 4ε;

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Open questions:

Is Gsof = Ghyplin? Is Gsof = Gl .sof ?Is Gsof ⊆ Ghyplin? Is Gsof ⊆ Gl .sof ?

Identifying permutations of Sn with permutation matrices over Cwe obtain:

dH(σ, τ) =1

2(dHS(σ, τ))2 and

ρ(σ, τ) ≤ dH(σ, τ) ≤ 2ρ(σ, τ).

Is (Sn, dHS) ∈ Gsof ? Is (Sn, ρ) ∈ Gsof ?

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Metric transformations

Open questions:

Is Gsof = Ghyplin? Is Gsof = Gl .sof ?Is Gsof ⊆ Ghyplin? Is Gsof ⊆ Gl .sof ?

Identifying permutations of Sn with permutation matrices over Cwe obtain:

dH(σ, τ) =1

2(dHS(σ, τ))2 and

ρ(σ, τ) ≤ dH(σ, τ) ≤ 2ρ(σ, τ).

Is (Sn, dHS) ∈ Gsof ? Is (Sn, ρ) ∈ Gsof ?

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Metric transformations

Open questions:

Is Gsof = Ghyplin? Is Gsof = Gl .sof ?Is Gsof ⊆ Ghyplin? Is Gsof ⊆ Gl .sof ?

Identifying permutations of Sn with permutation matrices over Cwe obtain:

dH(σ, τ) =1

2(dHS(σ, τ))2 and

ρ(σ, τ) ≤ dH(σ, τ) ≤ 2ρ(σ, τ).

Is (Sn, dHS) ∈ Gsof ? Is (Sn, ρ) ∈ Gsof ?

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Metric transformations

Open questions:

Is Gsof = Ghyplin? Is Gsof = Gl .sof ?Is Gsof ⊆ Ghyplin? Is Gsof ⊆ Gl .sof ?

Identifying permutations of Sn with permutation matrices over Cwe obtain:

dH(σ, τ) =1

2(dHS(σ, τ))2 and

ρ(σ, τ) ≤ dH(σ, τ) ≤ 2ρ(σ, τ).

Is (Sn, dHS) ∈ Gsof ? Is (Sn, ρ) ∈ Gsof ?

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Changing metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and let f : [0, 1]→ [0, 1] be a function so thatdf : G × G → [0, 1] given by df (g , h) = f (d(g , h)) defines a metricgroup (G , df ).

Problem: Describe functions f so that

(G , d) ∈ Gsof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gsof ;

...(G , d) ∈ Gw .sof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gw .sof .

The last case is open even for f (x) = xx+1 .

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Changing metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and let f : [0, 1]→ [0, 1] be a function so thatdf : G × G → [0, 1] given by df (g , h) = f (d(g , h)) defines a metricgroup (G , df ).

Problem: Describe functions f so that

(G , d) ∈ Gsof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gsof ;

...(G , d) ∈ Gw .sof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gw .sof .

The last case is open even for f (x) = xx+1 .

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Changing metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and let f : [0, 1]→ [0, 1] be a function so thatdf : G × G → [0, 1] given by df (g , h) = f (d(g , h)) defines a metricgroup (G , df ).

Problem: Describe functions f so that

(G , d) ∈ Gsof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gsof ;

...(G , d) ∈ Gw .sof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gw .sof .

The last case is open even for f (x) = xx+1 .

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Changing metrics

Let (G , d) ∈ G and let f : [0, 1]→ [0, 1] be a function so thatdf : G × G → [0, 1] given by df (g , h) = f (d(g , h)) defines a metricgroup (G , df ).

Problem: Describe functions f so that

(G , d) ∈ Gsof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gsof ;

...(G , d) ∈ Gw .sof ` (G , df ) ∈ Gw .sof .

The last case is open even for f (x) = xx+1 .

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Linear combinations

Theorem

Let d1 and d2 be bi-invariant metrics of G so that(G , d1), (G , d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Qsatisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ).

Theorem

Let d1 be bi-invariant metric of G and d2 be a bi-invariant metricof G/H so that (G , d1), (G/H, d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof ,Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Q satisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof , Gw .sof ),

where d2 is the pseudometric d2(g1, g2) = d2(g1H, g2H) forg1, g2 ∈ G .

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Theorem

Let d1 and d2 be bi-invariant metrics of G so that(G , d1), (G , d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Qsatisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ).

Theorem

Let d1 be bi-invariant metric of G and d2 be a bi-invariant metricof G/H so that (G , d1), (G/H, d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof ,Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Q satisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof , Gw .sof ),

where d2 is the pseudometric d2(g1, g2) = d2(g1H, g2H) forg1, g2 ∈ G .

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Theorem

Let d1 and d2 be bi-invariant metrics of G so that(G , d1), (G , d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Qsatisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ).

Theorem

Let d1 be bi-invariant metric of G and d2 be a bi-invariant metricof G/H so that (G , d1), (G/H, d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof ,Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Q satisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof , Gw .sof ),

where d2 is the pseudometric d2(g1, g2) = d2(g1H, g2H) forg1, g2 ∈ G .

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Theorem

Let d1 and d2 be bi-invariant metrics of G so that(G , d1), (G , d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Qsatisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Gl .sof , Ghyplin, Gw .sof ).

Theorem

Let d1 be bi-invariant metric of G and d2 be a bi-invariant metricof G/H so that (G , d1), (G/H, d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof ,Gw .sof ) and q1, q2 ∈ Q satisfy q1 + q2 = 1.Then (G , q1 · d1 + q2 · d2) ∈ Gsof (resp. Ghyplin, Gl .sof , Gw .sof ),

where d2 is the pseudometric d2(g1, g2) = d2(g1H, g2H) forg1, g2 ∈ G .

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Residually finite metric groups

Let Γ be an inverse limit of an inverse system C:

H1 ← H2 ← ...← Hi ← ...,

where Γ canonically maps onto Hi by a homomorphism πi with thekernel Ni . When C consist of finite metric groups (Hi , di ), Γ is in Gwith respect to the metric:

dC(g , h) =∑i≥1

di (πi (g), πi (h))

2i.

When (G , d) < (Γ, dC), we say that (G , d) is residually finite,

Theorem

Let (G , d) be a residually finite metric group with respect to aninverse system of finite metric groups which belong to the classGsof (resp. Gl .sof , ..). Then G also belongs to Gsof (resp. Gl .sof ,..).

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Residually finite metric groups

Let Γ be an inverse limit of an inverse system C:

H1 ← H2 ← ...← Hi ← ...,

where Γ canonically maps onto Hi by a homomorphism πi with thekernel Ni . When C consist of finite metric groups (Hi , di ), Γ is in Gwith respect to the metric:

dC(g , h) =∑i≥1

di (πi (g), πi (h))

2i.

When (G , d) < (Γ, dC), we say that (G , d) is residually finite,

Theorem

Let (G , d) be a residually finite metric group with respect to aninverse system of finite metric groups which belong to the classGsof (resp. Gl .sof , ..). Then G also belongs to Gsof (resp. Gl .sof ,..).

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Residually finite metric groups

Let Γ be an inverse limit of an inverse system C:

H1 ← H2 ← ...← Hi ← ...,

where Γ canonically maps onto Hi by a homomorphism πi with thekernel Ni . When C consist of finite metric groups (Hi , di ), Γ is in Gwith respect to the metric:

dC(g , h) =∑i≥1

di (πi (g), πi (h))

2i.

When (G , d) < (Γ, dC), we say that (G , d) is residually finite,

Theorem

Let (G , d) be a residually finite metric group with respect to aninverse system of finite metric groups which belong to the classGsof (resp. Gl .sof , ..). Then G also belongs to Gsof (resp. Gl .sof ,..).

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