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Page 1: May the Powers of Attorney Be with You library/nna/webinars/powers-of-attorney.pdfPower of attorney 1 - 3 - 13 VA DL #T16700185 Exp. 7/15/2017 VA DMV Named, Mary S. Anderson as attorney

May the Powers of Attorney

Be with You

February 2013

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Topics We Will Address Today

• Commonly asked questions regarding

notarizing powers of attorney

• General guidelines so you’ll know just

what to do in similar situations

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Scenario

Mary S. Anderson brings in a document to

have notarized. Her signature includes her

name plus the title Attorney in Fact. What

should the Notary do?

Signature: Mary S. Anderson, Attorney in Fact_

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What is a power of attorney?

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• A legal document that authorizes a

person to act on behalf of someone

• What a power of attorney can be used for

Healthcare

Finances

Real Estate

Answer

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What is the Notary’s role?

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• Properly notarize the signature on the

document.

• The Notary is not allowed to explain the

contents of the POA.

Answer

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Whose signature is being

notarized?

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• Using our scenario, it is the attorney in

fact’s signature being notarized:

Mary S. Anderson

Answer

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• If it’s an original power of attorney, it would

be the principal’s signature being

notarized: John R. Burns

Answer Cont’d

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How would an attorney in fact sign?

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• Just like on any other document

• The signer should ask the issuing or

receiving agency how to sign if unsure

Answer

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Possible POA Signatures

• John R. Burns, by Mary S. Anderson,

attorney in fact

• Mary S. Anderson, attorney in fact for John

R. Burns, Principal

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Do I need to see the power of

attorney?

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• Depends on your state’s

laws

• A few states require it but

most do not

Answer

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What if there is no certificate or

notarial wording?

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Answer

• Usually the wording is pre-printed on the

document — read it carefully to make sure

it complies with your state’s laws

• If there is no such wording, you must ask

your signer to tell you which notarial act to

perform

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What name goes on the certificate?

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Answer

• The name of the person appearing before

you

• The following two slides are two examples

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Principal Signer

The instrument was acknowledged before

me by John R. Burns (name of person)

Personally appeared before me

John R. Burns (name of signer)

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Attorney In Fact Signer

The instrument was acknowledged before

me by Mary S. Anderson (name of person)

Personally appeared before me

Mary S. Anderson (name of signer)

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What should the journal entry look

like?

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Sample Journal Entry

February 22, 2013

John Burns 333 Park Place Anytown, USA

Acknowledgment

John R. Burns

Power of attorney 1-3-13

VA DL #T16700185 Exp. 7/15/2017 VA DMV

Named, Mary S. Anderson as attorney in fact

$0

At my office

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Sample Journal Entry

February 22, 2013

Mary S. Anderson 444 Smith Street Anytown, USA

Acknowledgment

Mary S. Anderson

Medical Release 2-22-13

VA DL #T16830184 Exp. 2/15/2016 VA DMV

Attorney in fact for John R. Burns $0

At St. Jude’s Hospital

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Summary

Don’t let the type of document confuse you.

The Notary’s job is to perform all of the steps

in the notarization process — that’s it. Keep

that in mind and it’s simpler than you think.

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Q & A For further information, contact:

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Questions?