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ORDER RESTOREDI would very much like to reply to Ms.Chris demos' letter in MRR #13, concerningCharlie from SACRED ORDER--not becausehe is a friend of mine, but because I'msick of people using your magazine tocondemn other people and one-sidedly airtheir petty gripes . Anyway, when we firstarrived for our soundcheck (the show washeld at a house where many of our friendslive), we observed Ms . Demos and friends,none of whom we knew (or for that matter,had ever seen before) throwing rocks atan upstairs window so someone would letthem in . Quite naturally, we asked them tostop, at which they laughed . We thenloaded our equipment down and began tosoundcheck, followed by the girls, whobegan to yap and laugh so loudly that wecould hardly hear to tune up . The laststraw for me came when I remarked to Erikthat I had to go home and change myshoes, and they came off with "Changeyour shoes? What the fuck for? Ha Ha Ha!etc" . . . .to which I replied, "Fuckin' shutup already!" They then stumbled off in ahuff . Later, just as S .O . was trying tosoundcheck, they began yapping again:" What the fuck's wrong with you guys?What are you trying to do?" . And Charliesaid, "Shut up!", loud enough for anyoneto hear . Ms . Demos pretended she hadn'theard . "What was that? Huh?" and Charliesaid, "Shut up you stupid little bitch ."She then ran towards Charlie with herfists clenched, obviously to try and hithim, and he prodded her once in the chestwith the neck of his base to keep heraway . She then began moaning as if shewere mortally wounded and retreatedupstairs, whereupon S .O . played theirset .

Now, I was not more than 2 feet awayduring this entire incident, and yes, Iacted as if he had done the right thingbecause it was exactly what I would havedone . I am not a sexist or nasty person,but neither am I a masochist . Neither isCharlie, and he should not have to put upwith people abusing him just because theyare female . Yes, I did think she waswrong, and it is an insult to me and thepeople in attendance ( most of whom Iknow and have been supporting the scenefor years) to label us as 'mediainfluenced'-- maybe if I hadn't witnessedher idea of 'hardcore' (here, and on lateroccasions), I would take her moreseriously . Sure, punk rock means you cansay what you want, but I never thoughtthat included being loud and obnoxiousand then condemning everyone for nothelping you account for your actions.Lastly, I would like to emphasize that Ihave seen S .O . perform dozens of timesand they are definitely not in the habit ofassaulting their audiences, so don't be putoff by Ms . Demos' letter . Keith Brammer(DIE KREUZEN)/ 634 W . Wisconsin Ave#41/ Milwaukee WI 53203

NO JIVE GERMANS

Dear MRR,This is a response to the lads who

wrote in last issue about Germany . Itcontained just a little too much shit to bedisregarded.

You guys (Ulf Baden and Holger Blum)started with a massive attack on ourdisliked "colleagues" Rock-O-Rama Records.Nothing new there, and certainly notuntrue either . But it was what followed,your mentioning of A .G .R. Records andWeird System (us) that we take offense to.

You said we "are not as bad as R-O-R" . Gee, thanx! And you follow with thatwe "are mainly into making money and donot care about the punk scene ." Hey, whoare you? You have never spoken to us norknow us in any way . So what is yourbasis for criticism?

Well, let's see. You are fromRotenburg, a really small town . So if youhave the least connection to the scene,you should know Gerd Bytomski, a

cartoonist and writer of Donald Punkfanzine, who lives there . Why don't youask him about us, just to get somefirsthand information? He should be able totell you a few things, as he drew thesleeve for Waterkant Hits comp LP . Or youmight want to talk to some of the 11 bandson that album . They were all relativelyunknown before that, and we paid them inadvance for the main part of the netpro as they are poor . We have workedwith dozens of bands in Germany andabroad, have always paid for all expenses,and have never dealt with any bandwithout giving at least 50% of the profitsback to them . This is the fairest policy ofany indie label in Germany that I know of.Maybe you can prove me wrong.

Also, we are the only people in thishuge city of Hamburg to be setting uppunk shows in the last 4 years . We had 5of the best known acts in Germany at the"Keine Experimente" Festival, all of themout-of-towners, and all for 6 Marks . Wehad over 1000 people in the hall, thelargest ever in here . Everyone wassatisfied, and we were the only people wholost anything (a minor sum) . Not caringabout the punk scene, you say?

As to our selling Boots the wholepressing of one record . What a joke . We ' venever sold anyone an exclusive like that,and if we did at the process you mentioned,we'd be broke in 5 minutes.

I'm not saying you are completely wrongin what you said about Boots and theirbusiness practices, which is one reason wehaven't dealt with them in several months.Everybody knows about that, except you.

Your solution to all this : bandsreleasing their stuff on their own labels . Iagree with you there, and I only wish thatthat were true . But most bands are toopoor, too inexperienced, or too lazy to doit, while at the same time playing andrecording . That's why we went intobusiness, and to provide an alternative todubious firms like R-O-R.Mansur/ Weird System/ Lange Reihe 101/2000 Hamburg 1/ West Germany

REACH OUT

Dear MRR-This is really to a friend of mine

(Sarah Thomee) who moved to Sweden ayear and a half ago . I haven't heard fromher so I was hoping she, or her friendswould read this and maybe she'd write.

We all miss ya, Sarah . Please write.-Sean Panno/681 St . Anns/ Laguna Beach,CA 92651 /USAPS Remember the weird photographer thatmade movies of all of us at the beach?

SCENE ON ICE

Dear MRR:I've lived in SF since March of '83

and the scene here is too cool for words.The people who are considered to be the"coolest" seem to be living off theirreputations rather than their actions, andthose who are only "cool" get cooler bysucking up to the "coolest".

What makes someone cool? Well, beingdrunk, shooting up and ignoring everyoneless cool than you is cool . Having a job,not looking totally radical (not necessarilybecause you don't want to, but becauseyou need to keep your job), andquestioning the cool is UNcool.

Being gay (male or female) is UNcool,being black is becoming ultracool andbeing a Jew depends on how cool you wereto begin with . Being in a band is cool,being in an unknown band is UNcool (notto mention frustrating) . Having musicalequipment is cool, the fact that moneybought the stuff is UNcool.

I thought I was cool before SFscrewed my head on straight - and ahearty thank you is in order for everyoneinvolved . I used to think that punk was away of thinking and living - that it meantfucking with the system, knowing thatmost of the world is brainwashed by boguscapitalist and pseudo- communist ideals,and that we the people must fight forourselves because nothing could make theworld powers happier than keeping uspoor, ignorant, and most of all, quiet.

Setting my cynicism aside for amoment, I am still dedicated to my beliefs.I see truly cool people in some of theletters and articles in MRR, andoccasionally at shows or in the street.They are the ones who refuse to bedictated by the rules and etiquette of thepunk social clique, the ones who aren't toocool to make a connection with (i .e ., say"hi" to) someone outside of the tightlywoven circle of punk chic . I've beenstanding apart from this circle for over ayear now, watching - and wondering - ifyou all are so cool, then why do you comeacross like such a bunch of superficial,dumb hardcore egotists?

In the spirit of the principal of thecooler than thou attitude, I remainfaithfully yours,

Cherry Lusk, S .F.

REACH IN

Dear MRR,This is for Paige of Portland

"nowhere land" Maine, who wrote abouther "scene in ruins" in MRR#12 . WellPaige, why the hell are you sitting aroundon your ass letting the world pass you bysimply because your scene is no longerliving up to your standards? There aremore constructive ways to improve thesituation than with drugs and alcohol.Now, I'm not gonna preach about straightedgeness--all I'm saying is you'recomplaining about your scene, so drugscan't help it any! You say your childhoodfriends hate you ; maybe they just don'tunderstand you! Have you ever triedtalking to themabout your opinions? Maybethey were turned off by your negativityand never got a chance to ask why? Yousay you stepped out of their world intothe "fast lane", but it looks like you'restepping out of your own world as well.

As for your scene--if you reallywanted to improve it, open upcommunication lines! The other kids areprobably wanting to improve the scenealso . Get together and talk, start a bandor a fanzine, or even just write letters topeople from everywhere! There's always alot of addresses to be found in zines . Ithelps to talk to others about yourfeelings/opinions .

Write

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forfanzines on things that are important to

you! Also, talk to other kids who might'velooked into the scene but were turned offby negativity . You'd be surprised to findthere are more open-minded people withtheir own opinions than you had thought,even in Portland! So, Paige, if sulkinghasn't taken all your energy, and yourhangover isn't too bad today, get up andmake something —happen! Your scene (andyour mind) will only die if you let them!Kharyn/ Wash D .C.

POSITIVE PUTDOWN

Dear MRR,I don't want to sound like an asshole,

but it gets me frustrated every timesomeone writes in to your mag and hassomething new to criticize . I'm gonna tryto say this without trying to criticizemore, so please read this positively.

I'm gonna defend the so-called"trendies", "poseurs", or whatever youwanna call 'em . I know they're stupid ashell, but why give them such a hard time?Isn't it better to have people (whether ornot you consider them stupid) puttingmoney into our scene (by going to gigs,buying underground records) than havingpretend Heavy Metalers cussing at you inthe streets? Or how about the assholeswho pick on people at gigs who may bewearing preppie shirts or designer jeans?If they're interested enough to come togigs and see what they like, why givethem a hard time? Besides that, remember,they're supporting your local club . Sonext time, go talk to those people andmake them feel welcome, instead of makingfun of them. After all,

punks aresupposed to tte open-minded, right?

Also, I'm putting out a fanzine calledSlam Show. Anyone interested in getting acopy send 25C and a stamp to : Danny/11142 Utopia River Ct/ Rancho Cordova CA95670 . Please write, I love letters!

ANTI-NIHILISTICISM

Hello, Hello,I hope this letter isn't the only letter

expressing disgust with the NIHILISTICS.I hope everyone sees them for what theyare . . .oversized, snivelling babies! Neverhave I heard such disgusting whining andcomplaining in my life.

They've suffered . Sure they have,and so have a hell of a lot of otherpeople . I know people who have lost legs,arms, who've gone blind, who've beenraped, people whose parents have beenmurdered . Sure they're hurt, but they'reliving . Tell me, why so low? You've gotbrains, your bodies are intact . So what'skeeping you back? Nothing, so stopbegging for our sympathy . And don't sayyou're not after sympathy--if you weren't,you wouldn't be putting out records ofyour bitching or doing interviews . So hey,instead of opening fire into a street filledwith people trying to make it in this cruel,fucked-up world, open fire into your ownmessed-up heads!

And sorry, Jack (Rabid), Idon't think the NIHILISTICS deserverespect for being truly creative, becauseif they had an ounce of creative energy,they'd think of a way to get out of themess they're in.

Disgustedly, Jason TraegerSan Diego

AN OPEN (PIT) INVITATION

To Alex 'Tanya' Isotopex,Just wanted to let you know that

thanks to you I've realized the error of myvegetarian ways, and you are cordiallyinvited to be served as the main course atmy next barbeque . Sincerely, CarolSchneck/ Shoot fanzine/ 323 Village Dr#512/ E Lansing MI 48823 .

IF YOU COME TO SAN FRANCISCO . . ..

Attention gay/lesbian punks,If you are interested in politics at

all, and would like to come to SanFrancisco this summer during theDemocratic convention, you can stay withme if you like . I am a gay male, age 20,and sex is not a requirement for a freeplace to stay . I don't expect sex oranything else . I just want to help you gethere so you can witness for yourself theconvention area, which could turn out tobe big news . And also being gay, I'm sureyou have a curiosity about S .F ., so youcan see for yourself what it's like.

I'll still be slaving away flopping outfast food while you're here . I think itwould do us good to meet people fromother parts of the country who have 2such important things in common--beinggay and being punks.That's about it, except for one more veryimportant point, and that is--I am notrich . I live in a tiny little room in abathroom- down-the-hall type of place . Butif I can handle living here, I'd guess youcan handle it for a week.J .T ./ 94 Duboce #5/ S .F . CA 94103P .S . On the way out chance that astraight punk needs a place to stay duringthe convention and would consider takingup this offer-- go ahead. In fact, I wasgoing to make this offer just to punks ingeneral, but I thought I'd better not . Theway some punks are, there could betrouble if when they got here they foundout I was gay (just another example ofhow gay people have to modify any ideathat comes into their head because ofPREJUDICE).

CREEPING CAPITALISM

Dear MRR,One thing that really pisses me off

specifically in the American scene is theamount of bands who just make recordsavailable which cost so fucking much!Tapes are always more than the price ofthe tape itself as well! WHY??? Not manybands offer tapes of them for, say, ablank tape and postage, or only the costof the tape itself and postage . Recordsand over-priced tapes cost too fuckingmuch, especially when you're poor . I thinkI can speak for a lot of European punks aswell as British punks when I say that.The only U .S . bands who do that kind ofthing are the MODIFIERS from Tennesseeand a few others . You have to pay for allthe others . It gives you the impression ofbeing a passive consumer--something youdon't want if you wanna become involvedin the scene . I therefore want to make anappeal to all bands from everywhere tomake their stuff available on tape . Wedon't need to press records, and we cankeep prices to the minimum . We can swapthings and make tape co-operatives--a firststep towards anarchy and independence . Iremember being relieved at being able toget stuff put on tape from P . Tuotanto(Finland) just for supplying tapes andpaying for postage . Many bands in theU .K . sell tapes, etc ., cheap, so we canafford everything . So let's see more bandsat it!

Up here in the NE of England wehave a massive scene with tons of bands! Ijust wish someone up here would do ascene report! (So do we-Ed .) . I can't doone, as I can't even write a fuckingletter! (I'll say--the worst handwritingever-Ed .).

Anyone who wants to write to me orsend me tapes, etc, do so at the followingaddress . I'm also starting my own tapelabel and want bands to put on it . Nomoney in it, so no poseurs please.Eric/

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Laburnum

Ave/

Blackhill,Consett/ Co . Durham/ England/ DH8 5SZ .

EDUCATED SEX

Dear MRR,I disagree with "Mundane" Mike

Brunelle's (MRR#13) opinion about the rootof poverty . I do not believe that it is sex.I'm sure that wealthy people are just assexually active as the poor, but they (therich) are generally better educated aboutcertain aspects of sex (i .e ., birth controland V .D .), and thus are more apt toprotect themselves against unwantedpregnancies and diseases . Further, amajority of poor people are religious . Manyreligions, such as Roman Catholicism,condemn the use of birth control devices,and advocate large families.

In his letter, Mike implies that sex iscontrollable, or at least that it should be.I feel that sex is natural, and should notbe controlled . Education, not masturbation,is the answer . Masturbation, as Mikestates, does produce the same physicaleffect as sex with someone cared for, yetthe emotional fulfillment is not the same.In my opinion, emotional needs are as (ifnot more) important than physical ones.

Confining sex to masturbation wouldjust be another restriction imposed uponus . Do we really need more? We musteducate ourselves and others so that wecan enjoy freedom in our lives.Everyone--poor ' and rich alike-- mustrealize the impractical dogmas of certainreligions and social doctrines if we areever (as the cliche goes) "to break out ofour chains" . Thanks for listening, Kris/Rancho Santa Fe, CAP .S . It's interesting to note that themajority of the U .S .'s poor are politicalconservatives.

NOTED FOR "BAD TASTE"

Dear MRR,Just writing to say that I thought the

F .U .'s record advert in MRR#11 was insick taste . Using vivisection in such a way(i .e ., to sell a few fucking records)hopefully pissed off a lot more people thanjust me.

I know bands ; labels have a right toadvertise, but I think if they wanted touse a naked woman, you would refusebecause it's sexist . Using tortured animalsis every bit as bad . Guy! Nottingham,England

BLOWIN' HIS CORK

Dear MRR,I know this is a little late, but I feel

I must, respond to what Robert Pennie saidabout the situation in Northern Ireland.First, I was born in the south of Ireland(Cork, to be exact), but I spent my lastthree years in Ireland in the north.British rule in our country is somethingwe feel very bitter about . OK, so I maynot agree with the I .R .A.'s methods, butthe British have simply got to learn thattheir "empire" and their "right" to fuckaround in the affairs of other countrieshas to stop . As for the majority ofTorthern I relanders wanting to stay partof the U .K ., well, of course they do--they .are all ancestors of the British andScottish landholders who plagued us (thetrue Irish) for centuries . What the fuckgives them the right to decide who rulesIreland?

If they are so fiercely loyal toEngland's royal cunt, then why don't theymove back to England or Scotland or Maltaor somewhere else where we don't have toput up with their union-jack mania? As forthe line about " British government, Irishgovernment--what's the difference?" ; wellRobert, you wonderful anarchist, I guessyou could say the same thing about U .S.presence in Grenada, the Russian presencein Afghanistan, or the Vietnamese presencein Cambodia . Right?Gene McCrary/ Marina del Rey, CA

"THEY" ARE OUT THERE!!!

Dear MRR,I don't mean to, bring up an old

subject pointlessly, but I wanted to sharea thought with you . Has it occurred toanyone besides me that theanti-DKS/MDC/MRR and anti- "political"attitudes that seem to be creeping uparound the country could be spawned bythe covert activities of government policeagencies? There is documented precedencefor such suspicions (as in the Vietnam Warera) . One way to ruin a potentiallyexplosive "movement" is to discredit andsmear the names of the more prominentpeople involved . This can cause divisionsamong the ranks, so to speak, and insurethe lack of cohesive activities.

I realize that to a certain degree,there is just the fact that some people area little bored with bands preachingpolitics, and some bands have warrantedcriticism as a result of "half-baked"concepts or bandwagon jumping . But thereseems to be a consistent agitation stemmingfrom certain quarters that is definitelybent on exploiting such feelings, andtargeting certain bands and individualswith the most rabid smear tactics, whichare very similar to methods used by theF .B .I ., C.I .A ., and the NCPAC/MoralMajority forces . These particular criticsand attackers have in fact succedded inconfusing and dividing the ranks of thealternative scene . Who are these people,really? What are their backgrounds? Whatare their real motivations, and who aretheir friends and associates behind thescenes? I guess no one will really know.We should just be very cautious because,as we know, these are perilous times . Justsomething I wanted to share with you.What do you think?Wally Cocks/ Houston, TX

Dear Wally Cocks ("Mr . Peepers"?),I think that you and Henry Platsky

have performed a valuable service byfocussing attention on a crucial issue thatshould be in the back of everyone's mind.All punks should be wary of possibleinfiltration, disruption, and subversioninitiated by government security agenciesand extreme right-wing political andreligious organizations that wish to destroypunk or manipulate it for their ownpurposes . (I would also add left-winggroups to this list, except that a) mostleftists do not consider punk to be asource of social change or potentialrecruits, b) no left-leaning organizationshave the financial resources to match theactivities of their counterparts on theright, and c) those few leftist groups thatdo propagandize among punks--like theR .C.P.--are so transparent that anyonecan

see through

them .

Also,

mostAmericans already have a conservativeviewpoint, which makes them moresusceptible to appeals from the right .)While Tim Y was right to caution peopleagainst becoming paralyzed by paranoia orcarelessly

accusing

others

of being"government agents," I think it would beextremely naive to believe that theseven-year old punk scene has not come tothe attention of intelligence agencies andrightist groups who compile dossiers on"subversives ." It should be rememberedthat the extent of official (and private)covert activities mounted against anti- warand radical organizations during the 60sdid not come to light until years later,with the release of documents under theFreedom of Information Act (which theReagan administration is now trying togut) . So, although we don't know whothey are yet, we can safely assume thatthere are informants and agents among us.

Jeff Bale

BE A PAL

Hello All,I write a zine called Black White in

England, and in the next issue I intend tohave a pen pal page . If you want to beincluded, then write to me at the addressbelow with name, address, interests, favebands, if you want to swap things, etc.

I'm sure if more British people hadthe chance to write to people abroad itwould help to increase British people'sinterest in the world scene, as well asgiving you closer contact to the Britishscene.Paul/ 15 Oxford Ave/ Wimbledon Chase/London SW20 8LS/ England

Dear MRR,S .O .S . to all bands and labels! Please

help us! We wish to distribute yourrecords, tapes, and fanzines here inYugoslavia . If you can help us in anyway, please contact us at the addressesbelow . We can't get any products from theU .S . scene, so many people here reallydon't know what is happening there . Wewant to do something to change thatsituation, and this is the only way we cando it.David Krzisnik/ Ane Ziherl 10/ 61000Ljubljana/ Yugoslavia.Maus/ Ane Ziherl 2/ 61000 Ljubljana/Yugoslavia .

" GENERIC" JEFF?

Dear MRR,This is in response to Jeff Bale's

reviews of the recent CRASS and LOSTCHERRIES vinyl offerings . Jeff, why doyou want things to stagnate in aspeed-rock ghetto? The reviews werepretty surprising coming from you, asyou've always seemed to be a pretty open-minded, both in terms of ideology and inpeoples approaches to sound . After all,weren't you one of the first people tocomplain about the increasing genericnessof many "hard-core" bands? But now itseems that anything that doesn't conformto your narrow-vision of what "punk"should be is to be condemned as "quasi-experimental ." Granted, your opinion is nomore valid than my opinion or anyoneelse's opinion . It's just that your opinionreaches more people than my opinion, andI cannot in good conscience let suchunobjective slags go unchecked.

Re : Kenji Snow's letter, pacifism isnot an excuse for passive-ism . It's tooeasy to condemn the actions of others,especially if you haven't "walked a mile intheir moccasins ." I do wonder about theeffectiveness of such actions for bringingabout any real change, but you can'treally say the targets of the Five's actionswere "innocent bystanders ." The onlythings about the actions of the Five thatbother me is that there have beenconflicting reports . Some say that peoplewere injured as a result of -their actionsand, if this is so, why has it apparantlybeen covered up? Also, I just wonder howconcerned the "punk" community would beif one of the 5 wasn't in a band . (What doyou ever hear about the other 4?) Thereare individuals incarcerated all over theworld for such actions, and do you hear apeep about them from "Free The Five"'people? Personally, I can't in good faithsay I totally support the actions of theFive, but by that same standard, I can'tsmugly condemn them either . Surely,non-aggression is an essential ingredientfor any anarchist society to be able tofunction, but how are we going to getsuch a society? The multi-nationalcorporations who call the shots- and thegovernments that they control- seem to bein the way . I've got far more questionsthan answers .

Finally, my congrats go to Tim forhis column in #12 . It was really brillant-it's about time someone took Mykel'sabsurd and pointless rantings and threw itback at him . It graphically showed howre-actionary (and yes, conservative) Boardreally is . P@X-Stevec/o Entertainment Revue/ PO Box 37155/Phoenix, AZ . ;' 85069/ USAPS . E .R . #2 is still available and is still$1, which includes postage . (no checks,ok?) #3 will hopefully be out soon.

Steve:

Thanks for writing . I feel I owe youan explanation regarding my criticisms ofthe CRASS-influenced bands . As youindicated, I have a pretty open-mindedapproach to music (as well as ideas) . Iwas one of the first to complain aboutgeneric thrash, even though thrash is myfavorite musical style . And, for therecord, I also enjoy many other types ofmusic--all varieties of punk/HC (exceptsome Metal-punk) ; 60's punk ; psychedelia;hard-edged pop ; rhythmic, abrasive post-punk ; reggae; R & B ; funk ; fast blues;rap ; rockabilly ; 50's rock 'n' roll ; "BritishInvasion" stuff ; ' folk-rock ; mod ; surf;medieval E. renaissance; and some NewWave, disco, glitter-rock, C & W, andclassical . Moreover, I'm not opposed toexperimentation in principle, so I don'tconsider the phrase "quasi-experimental"to be condemnatory, only descriptive . Ifyou examine back issues of MRR, you'llfind that I've given rave reviews tonumerous bands that fall into that categoryin one way or another--the CRUCIFUCKS,THINK TANK, UNITED MUTATION, BIGBLACK, M .F .C ., and the list goes on.

However, I loathe certain types ofexperimentation, specifically unstructured"art" noise and pretentious, self-indulgent"progressive" rock (a contradiction interms if there ever was one).Unfortunately, some of the newer materialby CRASS and several of the bandsthey've inspired (FLUX, OMEGA TRIBE,ANNIE ANXIETY, the POISON GIRLS,etc .) falls into one or both of thosecategories . Beyond the fact that suchmaterial leaves me emotionally untouched, Ireally don't see the point of producinginaccessible doodling

if one's primarypurpose is to communicate ideas, as Iassume

it

is in

the case of theabove-mentioned bands . After all, there is,a

line--however

fine--between musicalinnovation which stimulates the senses andimagination, and self-indulgentinstrumental "wanking" which only appealsto a handful of people outside of itscreators, even if that line is drawndifferently by each individual . I guess thebands in question haven't reached yourparticular threshold yet,

but they'vealready crossed mine.

In sum, while I don't want to seecontemporary music confined to a"speed-rock ghetto," I'd hate to see itregress to the excesses of the early 70'seven more . I therefore feel obliged to offera critique of this developing tendency . Ofcourse, you're always welcome to criticizemy critique .

Jeff Bale

P .S . - By the way, "objectivity" is onlypossible in the descriptive portions of areview--every value judgement is, bydefinition, "unobjective ."

P .P .S . - In retrospect, I think I was a bittoo critical of the LOST CHERRIES' newEP, but anyone can make a l mistake!P .P .P .S . - I agree wholeheartedly withyour thoughtful response to Kenji's letter .

NYHC :ONE OF MANY COMPLAINT LETTERS

Dear MRR,I'm writing this letter as a sort of

feedback on what took place at a show inNew York featuring TOXIC REASONS . Thisband comes some 600 miles, only to begreeted by spit,

beer cans, and abelligerent crowd . A small faction ofskinheads, supposedly the "hardest of thehardcore" did not like their anti-Americansongs, and thus ruined the show, asusual . It's funny how one cannot go to ashow in NY and enjoy oneself anymore.The group of skins is a funny one becausetheir ringleader, who shall remain namelessdue to fear of retaliation, thinks he is"Mister Patriot" by sporting American flagsand U .S .A. t-shirts . The funny thing isthat they know nothing about democracy.This was clearly exemplified by the waythey took to spitting at you and rippingyour jacket off if you even looked asthough you were enjoying TOXICREASONS . To further prove what greatAmericans they were, they provoked amultitude of fights, especially one girl whowe all know and hate . If they are so pro-America, why didn't they leave and leteveryone else enjoy what they paid $7 tosee? but no, they stayed and forced theirclose-minded, fascist, un-American ideasupon everyone else, proving that theyknow nothing whatsoever about theAmerican way . They came close to closingthe club that night, and I sort of hoped itmight close, to show people how a smallgroup can ruin a good scene, a good club,and any chance of seeing TOXIC REASONSin NY again . Hopefully, I can go toConnecticut, where kids are nice and cool,not stupid, close-minded fascists like thissmall group of New Yorkers that force

their narrow-minded ideals upon others,creating a conformity even worse than theone they were trying to escape . Pleaseprint this so others can see that noteveryone in NY likes what they see.Anonymous, Bronx NY

Dear Anon .,It's too bad that you feel the

necessity to remain unknown, that thesegoons have succeeded in scaring you andothers into silence . Writing this is a goodfirst step, but hopefully you, and otherswho feel how you do (probably about 90%of the NY scene) will be able to pool yourenergies and put a stop to this violence.I'm not advocating you use violence too,but a crowd that is united in opposition tointimidation, along with an informed andsupportive band on stage, can put theseguys

in

their

place .

It'll

takepre-planning, perhaps in groups ofaffinity groups (a small, tight- knit bunchof friends that know each other well), butthe majority should not let the thugs rule.That is how fascism happens. But aunified crowd (of many affinity groups),along with bands that are willing to stopplaying and support the audience, andwilling club owners, can humiliate and cutdown to size these bullies . Since most ofthem are just sheep followers anyway, itshouldn't take too much planning to stoptheir

"fun" .

Any

other

ideas,

NewYorkers?

down here, and the new bands elsewheretake forever to reach here . Wheneverpeople think of Florida, they they ofHATED YOUTH or ROACH MOTEL . Butwhat about BROKEN TALENT or GENERICDEATH? Since we're not surrounded bystates (or even near any), we can't domuch travelling, like bands in the rest ofthe country . And since we (BROKENTALENT) have been banned from the clubshere, we rely totally on our EP andprivate shows to get around.

There are 2 local clubs here : Flynn'sand The Casbah . Flynn's is run byRichard Shelter, who is a money-makingposer . He cares nothing about music ornew ideas . He has "Heavy Metal Day" oncea week, and does anything to get peopleinto his club (including soliciting at otherconcerts, tearing down ads for otherbands, not booking anything that's'uncool') . The Casbah is run by a coupleof "born-again " Christians . They kickedus out for being "religiously offensive"(we did SIOUXSIE's version of the "Lord'sPrayer"), and swore that we'd never playthere again . So as you can see, we arebeing starved down here.

I think this info will help the Miamiscene . If a band comes down here, theyshould bypass these hypocritical clubs andcontact Malcolm at (305)557-3631, or me at(305)823-2036 . South Florida cries out toanyone reading this, so get in touch!!!!Santo/ 16812 NW 73 Ct/ Hialeah, FL 33015.

P .S . Our band formed in '78, when punkwas "unfashionable", and we are still herein full force . We play twisted punk rockwith a little hardcore, art, rawness, rock,and a lot of damage.

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Dear MRR,Since you had no Miami or Florida

scene report in your last issue, you caninclude this as a report or a letter.

First of all, Miami has a few starvingproblems. No one has heard of the bands

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:nuclear weapons pose to their lives . But those things are only a synrtce of rec t. g reaterproblems, problems that the self-a p pointed leaders of the 'peace' reve rent don't eas t•discussed . The contemporary ' peace ' movement is like most single-issue 'anti-' nove-e e ts;it exists in opposition tc Orly one cr two aspects of this society . And weer peorle in=a 'movement' aren't questioning the nature of this society in it's ertirety trey ere :e

chosing tactics that only have a symbolic value, conservative are ti n te activit es likeelectoral politics and pacifism . "We got beater uc by the police and we spent a weekIn jail so we must have changed something . . ." or, why the confusion?

I was involved in the blockade at Diable Canyon Nuclear Power plant in the fa'' of1901 . I spent four days in the demonstrators' carp and after getting arrested I spentthree days ire jail . At Diable I found that the more cormited people were to oaci f isrunder any circumstances the less connrited they were to radical social charge . Most ofthem were very smug about it, " No, violence is never justified . . . " People we re generallyunwilling to discuss the authoritarian, politics of nuclear energy . The protesters preferedto engage in a lot of 'New Age'-style 'group therapy ' . It was an ovenahelrin,'y „ F ite,middle-class scene . Even when the police were beating the shit out of their fellowdemonstrators they would be telling the cops how much they "loved" thee . A tree . cfpeople wanted to hike up to the top of the hills and 'chant and pray until the reactorould gc away . .' The Diablo affair was a very wierd scene.

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PACT FI S° ANC SOCIAL CO' :TPCL : LOOK AT GA.90'! ANC A FEW E%A"'p LER FFC^' H1S LIFEMy impression of pacifism is that it is (generally) a erincip l ec and erre e ereicral

Opposition to a ny and all for-s o f vio'ence, even violence in cases c f se lf -oe--e"nnby victimized individuals and classes . Is the violence of a rebellious slave as tent : leas the violence of the slave-owner? Doesr't a person who is bath, assaulted rave a ric-tto fight back? The ideas of Mohadas K . Gandhi have had a profound effect oe the develoc-

•-Trent of pacifist ideology . People should find cut about the life of Gandhi, not the•Hollywood-movie Gandhi . Find out about what he really said and did.

Gandhi was the son of a very well-off family free Porbendar, India . After reelevirchis law degree Gandhi moved to South Africa . He involved himse lf in the civil rig-es

*struggles o f Asian people .In 1913 the civil rights campaign reaches it's he i ghtin a massive Strike of indentured Indian miners . This strike threatener tc link up with

=a simultaneously-occuring strike of European railway workers . The government dec'a-et astate of Beige . Gandhi helped to break the strike wave by calling o f f a denonstra :',or b.

*Asian workers, saying ne did not wish to ee'barass the Sceth Africa, re g ire . With t ee:praises of the South African regiee,for his " veneration " , Gandhi sailer o f f to India,•leaving behind an embittered, defeated and racially-divided word no class.=In India the struggles against British rule were not simply nationalistic c r wit"ir

the context of 'single-issue' demands .In the early 192Cs' a wave of strikes ant cease,:=revolts swept the country . As in South Africa Gandhi used his conside•able influence to

take the steam Out of the rebellion . Gandhi advocated non-violence it the struggles of•dispossesec peoples but during both World War One and World War Two Gandhi actively•recruited young men of India to fight in the British Imperial Army . In an incioert in.the 30's a g roup of Indian enlisted men under British officers mutinied and re fused to;fire on a non-violent demonstration . Guess whose side Gandhi took? Gandhi condemned the;soldiers, proclaiming that a soldier'takes a " stored" oath to his commander, that scldie e s

must always obey orders, and that when he and the Indian National [empress took cower

:in India they would need to rely on those same soldiers . (Why would this advocateof 'non-violence' need the military obedience of soldiers? To shoot down. err_!y de-enst,-

t -ators, crush strikes, round up political opponents, perhaps?) These are just a f ee.•examples of the course of Gandhi's activity threesm, : .,t h :s life There are marg . yore t•are just as bad or worse . Find out for yourself . Gandhi was a very sore ; . : and de-agoeie

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•41for the state and the ruling classes . One last quote from the beloved " Mahatma" ,"I shall never support the forcible disoessesion of the propertied classes .(of India)Capitalists are fathers and workers children ." (?) That was what Gandhi was all about'That was his ' non-violent ' philosophy and that sane kind of attitude caries over intotodays peace movement .

The smug advocates of non-violence at any price circulate chuteslike this one . Like most photos from symbolic 'blockades',this one shows a demonstrator suffering a lot of pain at theHands of the police . To most people this doesn't see, like avery desirable situation . But the bureaucracy of the peacemovement celebrates the imagery of people being brutalizec atthe hands of the police . The pacifists seer to wallow ina morbid desire for physical punishment . And the pacifistsg lamorize getting punched-out by ceps and thrown in jailbecause most of then are upper-middle class privilegedpeople or religious believers who don't live under the realeveryday threat of violence at the hands of the cops the waythat working-class and Door people do.

THE PROTEST TACTICSHAVEFAILED COM PLETELYIn the past four years of resurgent peace movement

activity all the well-organized marches and civil disobedience have not stooped or evenslowed the deeloynent of a single nuclear weapons system . And the invasion of Grenada creme:that the 'peace' and 'anti-intervention' movements are completely powerless are ine ff ect i ve.To think otherwise is to be fooling yourself . After Grenada and the Eurooean missiledeployments we can look each other in the eve and say, no more empty gestures, all the mot',praying, lying down in front of freight-trains, postcards to congressmen, the "F r eeze " ,all the crawling and begging can be consi g ned to the museum of paleontology . Tee dlc Ter eh:rule us are criminal, insane, and stu pi d . You can ' t guilt-trip those maniacs, t h ey won ' tTister, the, don't care .

pacifism has only worked in the interests of the sister.We want to live in a world without the threat of war, too . We want peace in or,- lifetime,.

too, and we want a whole lot more than just peace . The nuclear boob doesn't exist in avacuur, it wasn't created by accident . The bomb was created by the sane thine that hascaused most of the horrible wars of this century, struggles between capitalist powers,and you can't fight against militarism in any effective way without opeosinc the barbaricsystems that dominate every corner of the world . Real Estate agents and ex-NATC Generals areagainst the bomb because it would tarnish the paint on their Porsches . "liberal" politiciansand millionaires won't get rid of the barb . Direct Action means we should spread the idea ofwildcat industrial strikes against war production, advocate sabotage of war materials.Spread the idea of a nationwide mass strike in the event of another invasion . Kush of themost effective anti-military activity has to be carried out by the enlisted people in theArmed Forces . Soldiers and Sailors can wreck military eouipment, refuse to carry out warorders, and ultimately, mutiny . People forget that a large part of'the reason for theD .S . withdrawl from Vietnam. was because of the active resistance of the troops who weresupposed to do the fighting and dvi ng . There are many examples of a reel and far-goingopposition . In France in May 196E two-thirds of the country, ten million people went Outon a wildcat general strike . Look at the wave of mass strikes that swept Poland a few yea'sago . Or the urban uprisings in Britian in the sunnier of 1981, in fourty cities poor peopleof all different races rose up and took what they wanted when they couldn't oey for itanymore . In Italy and Spain and South Africa in 1977 or in Chile in 1923 large numbers ofdispossesed and threatened people have fought back and pointed out ways that we car notonly free ourselves from the threat of war but also how we can free ourselves fro- thesystems in the West and East that threaten us and rob us.

Many people in Northern Europe,people in the squatter's movement, the 'Soonties'and 'autonomen' are finding that you can't always be completely peaceful when confrontinga viscious and authoritarian social order . A real far-going rebellion is the kinc of tricethat can free us from the current mess . Let's all fight to make that here .

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MORE " DOES PUNK SUCK?"

MRR,Your "Does Punk Suck?" article was

really good, and raised a lot of points . Iespecially agreed with Dave from Meet Cafezine . It seems to me that we are in thefirst stage of many toward changing theproblems in this world . The recent trendhas been towards political awareness,which is great . But all anybody is doing ispointing out what's wrong (the firststage) . We seem to be stagnating at thispoint . If we are really serious about theproblems facing the world, we must moveon . Demonstrations, marches, and handingout in' ormation should be the primarymeans of informing .people (althoughM .D .C . and the D .K .'s have done thissort of thing, it is more the exceptionthan the rule) . By gaining the support ofother people, the issues are seen by morepeople, which continues on and on untilthere is a national force with presscoverage, etc . From this point, legislatorsare forced to act and reforms sometimescome about.

Of course, this progression is anover- simplification, and there are manyproblems with this . The first is thatpeople are not willing to go along with anew idea that is not generally accepted.The way to overcome this is to give wellthought-out, intelligent arguments whichhelp convince people . The second is thatthe ideals may be too radical for mostpeople . Therefore, I think that in order tofollow the above progression, the ideas canbe "toned down" . This isn't submission inany way, because by doing this, morepeople may go along and a real chance forreform might come about . I mean, isanarchy the only way to get the evil outof government? there is more than one wayto skin a fish(?) . Garth/ 8391 Squires Ln,'Warren OH 44484

Hi guys!Just wanted to comment on the

discussion on the moribund state of punk.I think that a lot of the writers had a partof the answer, and taken together acomplete look at the problems and thesolution to it (we hope!) emerges.

One thing not discussed, however,remains the alarming trend towardspolitical apathy with most bands, especiallyin SoCal . We have bands likeICONOCLAST, PEACE ASYLUM, the mightyARMISTICE (yeah, they're friends, butthese guys are great!, young, aware, andfuckin' powerful!), the MINUTEMEN,BURNING BRIDGES, and a few others, butthat about wraps it up for the "aware"local bands . Other bands are politicallyaware in regards to personal philosophy,but are so afraid of "preaching"that theyrarely, at best, allow their feelings topervade their music . Hence, theproliferation of mediocre bands whose onlymessage is that of We don't fucking care.

Kropotkin wrote a marvellous littleessay called "Appeal to Youth", back in1880 . What's funny is that the segmentthat he addressed to young artists is asapplicable to the scene today as it was tothe artists of his day . Rather than copythe whole thing down here, I'll just saythat anyone who wants to read it shouldpick up the book Kropotkin's RevolutionaryPamphlets (Dover Pub . 1970) .or check itout from your local university library . Butto sum it up, he looked at the artists ofhis day and observed that without a socialconscience, a lot of times artists (andmusicians, fanzine editors, etc) look forways to avoid it, either in finding another"ideal" in, in those days when the essaywas written, realistic portrayal of, say, aflower, or in a literary way, a slum or apalace.

I'd say the alternatives we have

found have been : a) blind nihilism, b)glorification of partying, straight edge,being a skinhead, being a hardcore, beinga skater, being whatever is fashionable atthe moment, c) glorification of fighting,being tough, d) retreat into fantasy, ande) racism, sexism, neo- or full-on-fascism, "white pride", that shit . Anddon't deny it still exists, because it does.And it's fucking frightening . That excerptin #12 about "Angry, Young, ProudSkinheads" sounded more like a manifestofor the Hitlerjugend than a fanzine.

I'm not saying that every band shouldbecome an M .D .C ., DICKS, CRASS, DK'S.or CRUCIFIX, but if the kids themselvesbecame more politically aware, maybe thatspark that fueled us in the olden dayswould return . Because, if you look at it,regardless of what that creep Mykel Boardsays, punk began as a political statement.This is where the original energy camefrom . Frank Discussion, bless his littlechrome dome, got the closest to what'swrong with the scene in his little comicstrip . We do need to re-invent "the spiritof '77", the original revolutionary thrustof punk .

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with is Pushead's challenge to all theapathetic whiners among us to actually getactive in the scene . I'm active, I was thelast vocalist for BAD EXAMPLE, a greatdowntown L .A ./Hollywood area band whosadly didn't have the motivation to getthings together enough to accomplishanything, and now I am ad hoc editor ofBut Is It Art?, a magazine of alternativeculture . I'm flying by the seat of my pantswith it, but it's worth it . I'm contributing.I'm putting something into the scene Ilove, just like Bess from Paranoia said . Ifyou can't play, write! And if you can'twrite, help put on gigs, leaflet, protest,be a part of this all! Let a hundred xeroxmachines bloom, a thousand garages blastforth . Show your hardware, or as I like toput it (thank you Captain Beefheart), flexyour magic muscle! (use your creativity!)When creativity and awareness are pullingthe same cart, nothing can get in its way.To sum up, to paraphrase CRASS, we aretrapped in their reality until we create ourown . Let's all start working towards it,

the future' Tzara FreedP .S . I'm coming to S .F . beginning July16, and hopefully continuing through theOlympics (Aug 12) . If anybody can put meup over this time, let me know . I will payfor my own food and use a pay phone for

any calls that aren't local that I mightneed to make . I'm not looking to scam onsomeone's good graces, but for a chance toreally get to know the S .F . scene, toinvestigate the possibility of moving upthere, and to escape the horrors of the23rd Olympiad . I don't even take up muchspace! (I'm 5'2") . If you can help, pleasewrite me at 3600 Motor Ave/ Box 84/ WestL .A ./ CA 90034.

Dear MRR,I ' d like to say that issue #13 really

got me thinking . I lived in L .A . for alittle over a year and became reallyinvolved in the "scene" . Fortunately, bythe time I was beginning to get "bored " oraccustomed to what was going on, I had tomove back to North Dakota (financialdifficulties) . I thought it was the end ofthe world . Here I am, stuck in the middleof flat, windy, farmland in a "hick" townfull of jocks and rednecks (although thisdoesn't account for everybody here)without the old standby of other punks orgogs . It was either do or die--so I did . Ihave now become involved in contributingto a friend ' s fanzine (Think), drawingpolitical (anti-political?) art, and openingmyself up to new ideas (and other forms ofmusic--yes, there is more to life thanpunkOOthough it is still my favorite) andother people (not punks), all this withoutletting go of my basic ideals and beliefs.It is much more rewarding than going to agig and fighting for a good place to seethe band.

I hope I'm not coming across as self-righteous, but I only want to throw outsome suggestions . I think it's a good ideato get out of the area (geographically andmusically) for a while to really understandand appreciate what's going on . I feel thesincere people will always be involved(maybe drifting in and out) in the"scene", but the insincere will come andgo and disappear.

I'm really excited and a littleapprehensive about coming back to L .A.this summer . I personally hate snow.Before I move back, I'd like to help somepeople in this area become interested inthe music, ideals, etc ., and maybe evenstart a band . I guess ND isn't so badafter all.Beth Johnson/ 1015 Valley St/ WahpetonND 58075P .S . I'm really disappointed in the DRUNKINJUN'S for misleading people and sayingthey ' re from ND . It wasn ' t a very fairshot at the area or at the AmericanIndians.

Dear MRR,I was prompted to write this by some of

the comments on the punk rock/statusquo . I think a lot of people ' s quesinessabout hardcore turning into pure shit(which it isn't) is just plain panicking . Toillustrate this and other points, I will drawfrom the observations of others whileinterweaving my own . Those of Rev . Norb,Jeff Bale, and Steve Wishnia are the mostpertinent, s000 ..

People are panicking because, as Rev.Norb says, there is so much hardcorethese days, as everyone is makingrecords . When this happens, the goodstuff becomes much harder to find--butit 's there (plenty of it, and better thanever) . But I think the sheer volume ofreleases is the catalyst for this panic . Ikeep saying panic . Maybe no one ispanicking, but there does seem to be quitea bit of unwarranted fed-uppishness . Itseems that some people don't care enoughto find what they like, so they give up onand complain about punk rock.

Anyhow, back to my interweaving . . .JeffBale hit on the essence of one of myobservations when he wrote these words:"Imitators have always outnumberedinnovators, so I suspect (and so do 10that people who obsessively criticize thrash

for being "generic" never really liked itmuch ." Thank you, Jeff . You don't giveup on music just because there is a lot ofbad music ; you don't give up on "art" justbecause there's a lot of bad "art" . I usethe word "art" here in the broadest, mostall-encompassing sense of the word toillustrate this point . For in my personaldefinition of "art", there is no badart--what is bad or boring is not art tome. Obviously, such a restrictivedefinition cannot be so easily applied tothe hardcore medium as reasonably fastdrums accompanied by distorted, loudguitar and someone who yells, screams orgroans (as opposed to actually singing inan overtly melodic manner . Bass is agiven) constitutes "hardcore", even if itsounds like shit . You can't really say itisn't hardcore, but you can say it's bad orboring or "generic" hardcore . I didn'tmention

lyrics,

because I

think thatwhatever definitions people have ofhardcore, the music is the foundation andthe lyrical subjects hit upon therein arereally too varied to be included in adefinition (at least in my opinion).

Anyhow, this brings me to the finalstage of my interweavings (I know you'reglad),

which hinge on Stve Wishnia'scomment : "Loud, fast, and politicallycorrect bands that pay more attention totheir rhetoric than their songs will neverput out more than well-meaningmediocrity ." I agree. And I guess that'sjust too bad because if these bands aren'tmaking music that's exciting in somefashion, then maybe they just aren'tcapable of it--at least at that time . Whichisn't by any means to say "don't do it".That's your business and prerogative, andI'll never knock anyone for making somekind of positive effort . I just think a lotof the bands accused of being "generic" orboring, etc ., should make consciousefforts to distinguish themselves musicallyto better get across whatever they have tooffer lyrically . Everyone has some shred ofcreativity in them which can be expandedupon, pooled with others, and ultimatelybe implemented to make a difference.

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but

perhapsoverlooked and significantly lesscomplained about, are bands who are good,great, or awesome musically, but have alot less to offer lyrically . That isoverlooked because 1) their music is goodor so good, and 2) people in general payalot less attention to bad or boring or tritelyrics than bad, boring, or trite music . Iappreciate it when bands are strong inboth area (a la MINOR THREAT, MEATPUPPETS, and M .D .C .), but not manyare, and most people would pick amusically strong, lyrically bland band overa "politically correct" mediocre band anyday . I think it's just a little harder to beinnovative lyrically . Lots of bands havefairly intelligent lyrics, but they oftentend to be about the same stuff, so themusic becomes the basis for judgement andappreciation of hardcore . In the case of aband like WHITE PRIDE, who are musicallyfairly strong (though there's somethingdecidedly boring and 70's rockish aboutthem), you have to keep that shit inperspective because their lyrics aredesigned to be condescending and tooffend the punks (you know that routing).But they're offensive for no other reasonthan that they're trying to rub your facesin their dumb, corny, and pitifulbackwardness. Nobody cares if you havebad breath, unless you go around blowingit in everyone's face--like them . So youcan't always ignore or tolerate the lyricsin favor of the music . But that's up toyou.

Anyway, hardcore is by no means dead.There may be hundreds of mediocre bands,but there are dozens and dozens of great,exciting, heavy, powerful, innovative,manic bands that make punk rockcompletely worthwhile for me (and for

evryone else, I hope) . C2D, SLUGLORDS,STATE,' DEEP WOUND, RATTUS ; C .O .C .,7 SECONDS, TERVEET KADET,HUVUDTVATT, SUBURBAN MUTILATION,UNITED MUTATION, INSANITY DEFENSE,TAR BABIES, MECHT MENSCH, MEATPUPPETS, RUDIMENTARY PENI, C .I .A .,G .I ., VOID, DIE KREUZEN, MINORTHREAT, M .D .C ., and SCREAM are allbands that should make and keepeverybody excited enough to shit in theirdrawers . There are many more, and thereare also great new bands too . BLINDIDIOT GOD is proof of that, I think . ..Miles/ 6408 Alamo #2E/ st Louis MO 63105

Dear MRR,Your article on "is punk getting too

generic?" was interesting . Most of thepeople who commented said "yes" . I say"no" . There are a lot of bands that areafraid to express their own feelings aboutsubjects . But there are other bands whodon't care if other people agree with theirviews . There may not be too many bandsthat sound too different, but that's whywe have thrash . And there are always afew bands that do sound different.

Punk is reirry the only music thatmeans anything . New Wave lyrics arewritten just to fit a tune, and Heavy Metalsongs aren't about anything, but punkmeans something . When you write ahardcore song, you think of some "issue"to write about, you write lyrics, and thenthink about the music . If people keephaving different views about things, andthey dare to be different and not followany trends, then there will always bePunk . John Lawrence/ P .O . Box 213/Bearsville NY 12 1409Dear MRR,

I was pleased by your last issue,

especially by your voluminous "Does PunkSuck?" If you want an answer that goesright to the core : "Yes, punk sucks . Letme explain before you kill me . Punkstarted in '76-'77, a well- known fact.People were trying to be the reverse ofthe existing society . they were dirty anddisobedient . Punk was something original,but it was dead as soon as it wasinvented . Nowadays, everybody will tellyou what punk is about, from Wattie toMRR . But to me, punk is just an unspokenfeeling in one's mind. The punk mostpeople talk about is a label, like rock, newwave, rasta, nigger, Russian, enemy, etc.Labels are invented by society todistinguish and control.

Let's talk about the label "punk" . Withthe passing of years, punks get clearorders about what to look like, what tothink . These orders vary from country tocountry, town to town, person to person.So somw do the pogo, others slam . Someare alcoholics, some straight edge . They'veall got this idea in common though : thatthey are right, and everybody else iswrong . They yell phrases like "Everybodythink for yourself" . But do they?

The only way out of this is to abolishall these labels . No "punk", nolabel--everybody is a human being, soeverybody is a punk.

Another thing is the music called"hardcore" . It's supposed to be the onlymusic a "punk" can like . But what is this"hardcore"? The only perequisite seems tobe play "fast as hell" . A band is onlyconsidered "good" if they play as fast asM .D .C . or D .R.I . Hasn't anyone thoughtabout others who might be more sensitive,people who like slower, more melodicmusic? It's a bit ridiculous when some likeDave M .D.C . writes intelligent lyrics, buthas to yell them (and they are stillimpossible to understand) into his mic tokeep up with the speed of the band . Also,a lot of bands produce fantastic lyrics,but there music isn't considered"hardcore" enough.

But the most terrible point about this"punk" thing is that some people areearning money off it . Is that what "punk"is about? No "punk" for me . Please think.Dirk Christoph/ Russelsheim, Germany

Dear MRR,I'm a black punk from Northern

California . I happen to likeANTI-NOWHERE LEAGUE . About a yearago, I went down to SoCal to the GalaxyRollerrink to see a gig, when a bouncercaught my eye. He was throwing smallpunks around like rag dolls . Another timeI went down again to a gig, and saw himworking for Goldenvoice . He is a dark,Mexican-looking skinhead . He was wearinga shirt with "The League" written on it . Iwas wearing my ANTI-NOWHERE LEAGUEshirt . I didn't think much about this, butlater 3 people came up to me and said:"Hey nigger, there is only one 'League'and we are it, so you better take off thatshirt!" About a month later, at the CathayDeGrande, I saw the L .A .D .S ., anotherjerk gang! What the hell?

I hope the L .A . scene does somethingabout these gangs . All I really want to sayis that L .A ..D .S . the League, andSUICIDAL TENDENCIES' trendies betterstart shaping up, cause if they don't,they won't have any scene to beat peopleup in! To all of the above--Go home,please!!!Mr Straight Edge/ City of Industry, CAP .S . Hey Mike Muir, even if you're notdoing all thedumb things in the scene, tellyour " rock star" followers to knock itoff!!!LOTS MORE "DOES PUNK SUCK" NEXT ISH

Dear MRR,You tried to, and probably did, stir up

some people over the issue ofpunk/hardcore-- is it dead? , is the musicjust empty noise with no meaning, nocause? No Way!! 1984 will be the best yearour scene has ever had . There ' s lots ofnew bands, a hopeful B .Y .O . (here inVermont), and more people gettinginvolved . And I know it is going to be agood year for other scenes, too . We willlose some good bands, but the cause willcontinue . Plus, new bands are alwaysforming . Anyone who finds their scene"boring"

"generic", and unexciting, isundoubtedly a boring, generic, andunexciting person themself . If you want agood scene, you have to work at it . Iknow it takes money to run a zine or booka show-- believe me, I know . But if you,Joe Hardcore from North Main Street, getoff your ass, try to do something, andshow people how easy it would be with a

,group effort, you, Joe Hardcore, will behelping your scene by getting JimHardcore and Sally Hardcore interested indoing more . This will turn into a chainreaction, and a pretty good scene will bethe result.

From where I sit, punk/hardcore andits future all depends on you and me . Ifyou sit back and say "let someone else doit", you are fucking yourself your scene,and the whole future of punk/hardcore.Now, you're probably saying "oh sure, oneperson is gonna make that muchdifference!" Yes, one person does . And ifthat one person influences 3 other people,you will almost instantly notice the change .

n, ~~So if you think that punk is a passing A~&(~~

,thing, stay right where you are . Don't

VT" IYmove, you are exactly where you belong . f(IjMIn fact, throw away this ish of MRR, sinceit's part of the passing thing . If you thinkit's here to stay, don't take it forgranted . Get involved, even if you alreadyhave a fantastic scene . It can be gonetomorrow if nobody helps . Oh well, enoughpreaching.Scott Perry/ Box 292/ Waterbury VT 05676

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Way back (last year), when certain peoplewithin the punk scene were yelling that"punk and politics don't mix", I felt thatthe "apoliticalness" of many of them wasjust a smokescreen for their ownconservative outlook ; that what they reallymeant was "punk and progressive politicsdon't mix" . And that feeling of mine hasbecome strengthened as of late, for acouple of reasons.One of the main ones is that these ""anti-political" voices that ranted and raved sostrongly against MRR, MDC, DKs, etc .,for being "political", are now nowhere tobe heard now that a politically reactionaryelement has surfaced in the American punkscene . I'm speaking of the recent blatantemergence of National Front-type ideologywithin certain segments of the U .S.skinhead community . You've seen theoutward trappings (SKREWDRIVERt-shirts, emblazoned with American flagsno less), and you've seen the mentality(violence towards those who don't look oract 'the same'-- both at shows and on thestreets ; the rise of racism, sexism, andhomophobia) . In certain scenes, it's trendyto embrace the style, if not the content,of reactionary bands who boldly proclaimtheir pro-nazi or pro-nationalist/racistideologies . There are maybe a handful whogenuinely understand the implications oftheir fascist outlook, while most of thissmall-but- destructive contingent just jumpon the latest bandwagon . It is probablethat there is an organized right-wingpolitical organization behind some of this,as suddenly certain skins are spoutingrhetoric and bogus facts and figures aboutVietnamese immigrants taking away "whitejobs", etc . ; the kind of stuff that couldonly have come from the N .F., Klan, orother hate group pamphlets.

But even if this were pure co-incidence, itstrikes me as ironic that those stalwart"anti- politicos" of last year are nowcompletely silent on this latestdevelopment . It's not like they couldn'thave noticed this trend, because it'splainly and painfully obvious in almost allthe big-city U .S . scenes (as it has beenin Europe for quite some time) . So what'sthe story? Not one peep in the fanzinesthat were "protecting" the punk scenefrom "political infiltration" . The conclusionI draw is that, as suspected, they weren'tanti-political last year, but now it's OK.It's much more likely that theyhypocritically were attacking progressivesfor their specific politics, using the "a- oranti-" political arguement because it wasconvenient . That way they didn't have toshow their true colors (red, white, andblue?) . If they were sincere and consistentin their "a- or anti- " beliefs, they wouldbe hollering bloody murder right now, as apossible organized right- wing incursioninto the scene is much more a threat (bytheir standards) than MRR's, MDC's, orThe— DK'S

unaffiliated/non-sectarianprogressive,

anarchist,

or

leftistapproach . To me, their silence isdeafening . More to the point : their silenceis complicity .

For some reason I have often been accusedof being negative . Although I can't imaginewhere this idea came from, I want to abortit in the womb: As I sit here twisting thecap off my Rolling Rock, I propose atoast . I'll make it a positive toast--a toastto--not against.So : here's a toast to the world's Fuck Upsand Misfits (generically, not necessarilythe bands) . Here's a toast to the troublemakers, to the monkey wrench throwers,to the mustache drawers, the turnstilehoppers, those who puke at black tieparties.On my last trip to D .C ., I went to visitMINOR THREAT's Ian MacKaye at theDischord house . He seemed a bit depressedabout the local scene . M .T . had broken upand he didn't see very many other bandsworthy of the Dischord label . Barbara Rice(Truly Needy Fanzine) asked him what hewould do if bischord fell apart.Said Ian, "I guess I'd just do somethingelse to cause trouble ." Well Ian, eventhough you're straight edge, this Rock'sfor you too.And here's a sip for my pal, Julien,former ARTLESS guitar player who tauntedthe audience at our Gildersleeves show andwas pulled off the stage and stepped onfor it ; who, once he learned that theYippies were out for my blood, made aspecial trip to their headquarters, bangingon the door screaming, "It's Mykel Board!He ' s here to shit on the floor!"Another swig for EARTH DIES BURNING,the Los Angeles band who plays a versionof "Heroin" using slide whistles. And onefor Leslie Singer, who with PSYCHODRAMApoured cow manure over her head andjumped into the audience . When she movedto California, she started the all-femaleband, GIRLS WHO HATE WOMEN ; thencaused so much trouble she was thrownout of that band and the following two.I'll finish up the bottle with a gulp each toBob Noxious of THE FUCK UPS, Tesco Veeand THE MEATMEN, G .G . ALLAN andanyone else who stumbles through lifefollowed by crowds of screaming peopleshaking their fists at them.Second bottle : It seems that some peoplehave the urge to wreck . When someonebuilds something, they want to tear itdown . If someone tells them to dosomething, they'll do the opposite . Ofcourse, there are few people like that,fortunately . If there were more, nothingwould ever get done . But there are peoplelike that, even more fortunately . Theymake it tolerable to live in this shithole wecall Earth.I'm not talking about myself (amazing,isn't it?) . I appreciate the destructiveurge, but lack the guts to live it . I havemy little business . I produce records, tryto write and "be creative" . Oh, I enjoysecretly putting holes in scumbags,sometimes, but I don't live for it.I'm talking about the real troublemakers:the ones on permanent high schooldetention ; the ones who get clubbedbecause they call the cops "vegetables";the ones who've been thrown out of everyvenue in the city . Those are the ones who

make life worth living-- although theymake it tough.For the next bottle or two, I'd like to takea look at these troublemakers . I knowthey're annoying . In fact, I already wrotein my anti-anarchy column that they arethe reason anarchy can't work . But I lovethem . I wish I were one of them . I'meternally grateful that they exist.A fuck-up doesn't want power and doesn'twant to be under anyone else's power . Afuck- up, whether for enjoyment or out ofinsecurity or ????, will shake the nicesolid foundation . Cracks appear in placesthat people thought were strong.Sometimes (rarely) the cracks will be sowide and deep that the structurecollapses . Other times (all too often), thefaithful hordes rush in to cement thingsup so that everything will be just like itwas . Every once in a while, something newsprings out of the cracks in the old.Third bottle : In every group there arepeople who do the work and people whofollow those who do the work . There arebuilders and watchers . It doesn't take longbefore the builders become powerful . Theyare the "experts" . Ask someone what theythink and they'll quote the experts.Sometimes it gets so bad that you'll hear,"Well, just go look it up . It's written downby (fill in the blank : Marx, Rev.Moon, CRASS, John Lennon, Jerry Falwell,the Bible, Tim Yohannan, Mykel Board(??!!)).As power collects in the hands of thedoers (or good talkers), the groupbecomes solidified . The experts defineright and wrong, and the group listens.After all, they are the experts . Aframework is established and everyone whowants to participate in the group adheresto the framework . It happens ingovernment, political movements, art, andpunk rock . Sometimes, when things havebeen around long enough, the frameworkbecomes invisible to those inside it . Until afuck-up comes along.In any case, the fuck-up makes peoplelook at their beliefs and question theexperts . You never notice the walls inyour house except if they begin to crackaround you . The same way, you neverthink about your little group, your ideas,until they are challenged, shaken up abit .You may decide to keep them after all,but the decision will be a conscious one,not one based on someone else's idea ofright and wrong . (Piss break)Ah, that's better . I find myself with aproblem, however . There is still one bottleof R .R . left and I've toasted all thetrouble-makers out of my system . Well, Ihad planned to save the next part foranother column, but since I have spaceand beer . . .and since this is a positivecolumn, I'll make another toast.Fourth bottle : Here's a toast to HeavyMetal ; to the real young kids with AC/DCjackets ; to the ones who want it loud andhard, with raised clenched fists andshouts of "Rock and roll!" ; to thelong-haired boys with make- up who singin high voices--about getting the girl.This one's for the most put-down,maligned group of fans in Rockdom ; hatedby every other group, yet not giving ashit about it . Finally Flipside had the guts[Ed .-guts?] to run a HM column . Mostother hardcores and their hangers-on putthem down like the New Wavers put downpunks . (The secret, of course, is that lotsof hardcore folks were Heavy Metalites,but converted and now try to pretend thattheir past never happened .)There is a heavy metal underground . Somebands are political, some not . They have

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scores of tiny fanzines, covering groupsand countries that nobody else ever heardof . They (except for the commercialsell-outs) almost never get played on MTV.Sounds like punk, doesn't it?In Washington, D .C ., there's a heavymetal band called THE OBSESSED . Themembers show up at every hardcore show.They produced their own record, and it's

political (anti-big business) . Of course,punks don't like them very much . Well,OBSESSED, I like you and this last sip isin your honor.(Well, it seems this might be changing.THE OBSESSED played here in New Yorkwith THE MEATMEN . At first, there wereplenty of "Get a haircut" shouts along withother intelligent remarks, but the band's

playing ability and attitude won over thecrowd . Amazing! Especially in New York,where one is considered tolerant if hetakes off his spikes before hitting you .)Well, that's the end of the beer. Nextissue I'll return with my usual nihilismsand general bitching . But .this week:Think Positive, Unite and Fight, Power ToThe People, Fight War Not Wars, andAvoid Cliches .

Warnings of ."Don ' t let the cat out of thebag" were verbally assailed opun me at themere mention of this 'specialty subject'.Contemplating the possibilities of whatcould happen, if I just petted this'hush-hush' cat, brought visions of deaththreats, long sleepless nights chattering infear, and being beaten to a bloody pulp,through my cranium cavity . But thoseimages lasted a brief second as I realizedthe people I was dealing with, theseso-called fanatics whose eyes bug out,scream frantically, go into long states ofshock, walk into walls, choke on theirfood,

and

even automobile accidentsoccur--just

from

the

excitement

of" collectables" . I knew then, if I wasconfronted by any one of them, all I hadto do was hold up the dreaded rarerecord, and they would fall on their kneesscreaming for forgiveness as they shoutedout their first bid . Welcome to the world of"collectables".Time

consuming

enthusiasm

is

thestrongest quality of a collector,

whosearches for items of interest to them,whether for their collection, a fellowcollector's collection, or just for tradingpurposes . Sometimes the items are high invalue, hard to find, or low in price andeasy to find--but it has a certain meaningto that individual which no one mightunderstand . Dirty hands, spentpaychecks, mail bartering, in debt, andstalking out possible finds are just some ofthe indications of a collector, trying tofulfill his collection . There are manyproducts collected, from comics to records,but I'll deal in that punk/hardcore realmof music.What makes a collector's item? Thatdepends on the person who wants it, andwhat its value is to them, but there aresome indications that add to its collectableappeal . A_ look at some punk vinyl in somecategories:A)Early releases by acts who becamepopular, which were in low distribution orhard to come by . Examples would be theSEX PISTOLS A&M pressings, MISFITS'"Cough/Cool" 7", WIRE, DAMNED,RAMONES, GENERATION X, STOOGES,CRAMPS first 7 " ers, and so on, dependingon what the quantities put out were.B)Small, pressings of decent releases,where the group couldn't afford to put outthat many copies, such as NECROS firstEP (100), TOXIC REASONS' "War Hero"(200), FIX' "In This Town" (200), SOLGEREP (300), ZMIV EP, etc ., etc ., usuallyless than 500 copies.C)Specialty items in low quantities, suchas colored vinyl, picture discs, specialeditions, added songs or goodies,giveaways, flexi- discs, or limited from thenormal pressing . Since it costs more tomake these products, usually there areless (unless a major manufacturer gets

carried away) . Such instances are variousDICKIES records, U .K . SUBS records,MISFITS records, VENOM and MOTORHEADrecords, Yes L .A . 12", S .O .A . firstpressing (green), MINOR THREAT In MyEyes first pressing (red), BLACK FLAG 's"Life Of Pain" giveaway, and so on, putthese records in continual persuit bycollectors.D)Picture sleeves or different picturesleeves . Sometimes a 7" record will bereleased without a pic-sleeve, but mostindependent releases will have one, butsometimes the individuals will change it orjust make a few different ones . There arebands who will make 3-5 different sleevesfor the same 7", showing members or ascene, etc . To some collectors, it'simportant to get all sleeves, for others,one is fine.E)Particular label releases can also make astrong collectable notice,

usually firstpressings though . Labels likeDangerhouse, Dischord, What, etc ., arewell-sought after.F)Different European pressings . A recordpressed in its home country, whether it bethe U .S ., U .K ., etC" might be pressed inanother country, where it might come outwith a different sleeve, different versionsof a song, or different B-side tracks.Also, early European releases are beingsought after by collectors.G)Test pressings and original pressings.Test presses are the first vinyl pressedoff the stampers and usually have the bestsound quality--and are made in verylimited quantities since they are samples.Original pressings are the first pressings,whether it be 100 or 5,000, until that seelsout and is re-pressed . Some bands willmake noticeable differences to indicatepress changes, such as MINOR THREAT'sfirst EP . The first pressing sleeve is red,second is yellow, third is green, fourth isblue, fifth is a 12" with a red sleeve andmore songs.H)Problems which occur after thepressing . Sometimes the band putting outthe release runs into a financial problem,disliking of the release or another suchmatter, which makes it impossible to get.The GEARS "Don't Be Afraid To Pogo" 7",SOCIAL DISTORTION's Posh Boy 12", theHUGH BEAUMONT EXPERIENCE EP aresome sought after examples.I(Oddities that are so extremely rare, theyreally make a collector's collection . Theseare usually mistakes, or releases neverpublicly released . Some examples from mycollection are : RATTUS' Uskonto On Vaaratest press, with 2 extra tracks . Amisprint, only 10 made . RUDIMENTARYPENI's first EP mispressing, withPus'NEOS label . MINOR THREAT's Out OfStep 12" test press, with special sleeve,only 50 made . CIRCLE JERKS' 7" testpressing, never released.The most prominent factor in making arecord a collector's item is a storeishopwho raises the price in order to makemoney, especially where there is a demandand low quantities of such product . Someof these collector's stores get way out ofhand as far as prices go, so it's up to youto use your judgement . Here are some ofthe well-sought after releases which Icharted down from collector's want andtrade lists sent to me : NEGATIVE TREND7", MISFITS Horror Business on blackvinyl- only 25 made, FEAR I Love Livin'In The City 7",

NECROS first EP,

PAGANS "Six And Change" 45, JOYDIVISION

Ideal For Living

12",ADOLESCENTS "Amoeba" 7"-gold vinyl DJcopy, KOHU-63 7", SATAN'S RATS "In MyLove For You" 7", AVENGERS We Are TheOne 7" on Dangerhouse-red and greenvinyl and 2 different sleeves, HUBBLEBUBBLE 7", SUBHUMANS (Canada) "DeathTo The Sickoids" 7", SODS 7",GENERATION X "King Rocker" 7"-fourdifferent sleeves with both black andcolored vinyl.The want and trade list is something thecollector sends or gives out to collectorsand regular record buyers to get or traderecords for their collections . This alsohelps with communication of what's newand available . There is a new publicationcalled Second Hand Graveyard, which isbeing compiled of want and trade lists ofall who are interested in record collecting,as a source to make it easier for recordbuffs to get together, as well as newinterested

parties .

It

works

oncollectors/individuals want, buy, sell,trade, lists . So send your list plus $1, soyou receive a copy, to : Chris Trela/ 141Old Bedford Rd/ Concord MA 01742.Through my travels I have met a lot ofcollectors and quite a few were justgetting involved in it . Since they boughtrecords, they just phased into collecting.I ' ve seen people sit up and talk for hoursjust on records, or making calls just forone platter . All in all, everyone washaving fun, which led my interest to writeabout it . There is no price list ofcollectors records for punk/HC, but thereis Volume, the encyclopedia of New Wave,which lists all releases in a very thickbook . To anyone interested, please sendme your want/trade lists, and I can sendyou the ones I have, plus addressesacross the world, and pass yours on too.Please help me out with expenses of Si orfive 20C stamps . I appreciate it! Happycollecting!Pushead/2713 Kerr/ Boise ID 83705

Hey, did anyone see the WIPERSinterviewin the last issue? Despite not being aformal entry into the "Does Punk Suck?"sweepstakes, Greg Sage put it better thanall of us together : "I don't consider uspunk or hardcore or pop . How do youclassify any music without placing a limiton it? There's so many diversions . Anymusic can get to a point where everythinghas been done . . .I have a lot of respectfor harcore punk, but I'm afraid that it'sso organized that anti-factions have beencreated . A chain reaction around andaround . We're personally not connected tohardcore or any movement ."Being an admirer of the WIPERS' LP, Ithought this statement was quiteappropriate and well- spoken, consideringtheir

long-standing

inability

to

getairplay/press despite their deservingtalent . Last issue I touched briefly intothe idea that bands that have in any waybeen seen to be connected with the

hardcore movement are burdened with astigma that makes it literally impossible toget their music heard by anyone buthardcore enthusiasts, and those so lumpedthat don't immediately fit in are usuallyeven ignored by this crowd . Pretty shitty.That it took the MINUTEMEN andREPLACEMENTS years and years untilpeople figured out that they weren't"hardcore" bands is proof enough, butthat's just two that got a tiny bit ofattention ; there's still hundreds out there.But more importantly, since this is ahardcore magazine (predominantly), !should further address narrow-mindednessin terms of hardcore fans in relation towhat I read in the responses to "DoesPunk Suck?" I found it particularly ironicthat Tim Yohannan called for more bandsto break out of the limited mold andchallenge them further with somethingfresh . Nicely said, but I can't help butwonder if such a thing is possible withinthe ideas of Maximum Rock'n'Roll . MRR isrun by hardcore fanatics, and I respecttheir views as those of people who reallycare and take their music seriously.However, it seems to me that in the recordreview section, and for the most part inthe interview choices, I feel the magazinefollows a particular pattern as to what isjudged to be good . Tim put it as thingslike noise and speed . I would also add tothat raw or garage-like tendencies.I said last time that mags like MRR are inpart the greatest (in practice) supportersof the genericizing of hardcore, despitethe voiced concern . By narrowing it downto a recognizable form, under a narrowdefininition of what's good, they andothers have helped insure that creativebands that do indeed try to stretch thelimits would be ignored in a rush ofchain-reaction bad reviews.When MRR sarcastically laughed ataccusations that they were trying tocorner the hardcore journalism market,they had every right to . I, and no oneelse, can fault them for doing their jobright-- putting some capital together andputting out a professional, high volume,international mag is something other peoplehad for 6 years failed to do . But, withsuch influence comes a great deal ofresponsibility, and I for one do not find itsurprising that a good deal of thehardcore scene I myself see mirrors thetastes/musical values of MRR . And, as Imentioned, it is a very friendly differenceof opinion, and I do know for a fact thatthe mag's editors are indeed diehard fans,first and foremost, but I regard the musicopinion of this may to be terribly narrow(and infrequently even closed-) minded,and I think that helps influence itsreaders . Examples you say . Well, let'sleave aside the notion that the coverage isabout 75% hardcore and 25% garage orpunk and very little else in terms ofmusic, this is not the main point . Therehave been a steady stream of groups whohave done something a little different,unique, and creative working from a punkfeel, but producing something actuallynew, breaking into new territory.Invariably, this plethora of releases hasbeen greeted with poor reviews in thismag, highly critical to the point of eventhrowing one out the window . Here's ashort list : T .S .O .L ., BLACK FLAG, BADRELIGION, RIKK AGNEW, the MINUTEMEN,the REPLACEMENTS, D .O .A ., TOXICREASONS, etc ., have been criticized evenwithin a good review for "softening up" or"going

too rock 'n'roll" or being "tooexperimental" or "lame".Actually, MRR is not the greatestoffender . Its reviews are, for the mostpart, accurate in terms of the facts anddescriptions, and the reviews are mostlyfair . Furthermore, good reviews forgroups ranging from the DEL FUEGOS andKOMMUNITY F .K . to SOCIAL DISTORTIONshow that the mag is not uniformly

close-minded or regimented into the"hardcore or else" mentality I see in othermags and most fans . But' I used MRR(since it's the most familiar to all) to makemy larger point that Greg Sage soaccurately sensed : when you define thingsnarrowly, and don't look past that, andonly like that which fits comfortably withinthis limited scope, then of course thingsget stagnant, repetitive, non-creative, anduninspired, as the rush to emulate kicksin, and most importantly, self-expressionis lost, and that lends it the most tragiccharacter--

that

it

is

terriblyuninteresting . What Sage said about"anti-factions" is true-so long as peoplerefuse to listen to a band for the crime oftrying to maintain some originality bychanging a little and trying new things, oroperating out of the obvious mainstream,then they get what they deserve--700interchangable bands, which is the deathof it all . And when I say R . I . P . , I say itwith actual remorse . . .it was once verymuch alive.Please write to MRR or me at 249 EldridgeSt/ Box 14/ NY NY 10002.

I didn't originally intend to write acolumn for this issue, but Jack Rabidraised several points in his column thatdemanded an immediate response . In fact,a few others have made similar criticismsin a far more irrational and hostileway--hello, Steve A .--so I'm glad theopportunity has presented itself to offer alast-minute rebuttal.

First off, as Jack noted, MRR is apunk/hardcore fanzine. We are the fanswho put it out, and the magazine reflectsour passionate interests . As such, we areunder no obligation whatsoever to coverthose forms of music which we have nointerest in (just as we have no obligationto print or promote white supremacistgarbage) . The onus of covering othermusical genres falls upon the fans of thosegenres .

If Jack and others are soconcerned

about

the

likes

ofcommercially-oriented

outfits

like

BIGCOUNTRY and the SMITHS, orart-damaged groups like DEBT OF NATUREand the XX COMMITTEE, then it's up tothem to do something about it . No qnewould think of criticizing Down Beat fornot covering SLUGGO, so why turn aroundand attack us for not covering theGO-BETWEENS?

Second, despite our focus on hardcorepunk, we do cover (and promote) otherforms of alternative music that have agarage aesthetic . To reiterate what I'vesaid in a number of other contexts, Ipersonally like many types of musicbesides punk (though I don't think MRR isthe right place to cover many of them).More relevantly, MRR's reviewers havegiven strong reviews to all sorts of bandsthat don't fit narrowly into the "hardcore"or "punk" categories--BLACK HUMOR, DA,DRED FOOLE & THE DIN, MR . EPP, theOVENMEN, WHOOM ELEMENTS, theBANGS, PLASTICLAND, the LEOPARDSOCIETY, the "Sub Pop 5" cassette,S .P .K ., the 39 CLOCKS, the MUTANTS,SILVER ABUSE, the THROBBERS, and thelist goes on and on and on--and we'vemade a concerted effort to interview orotherwise cover bands as ideologically andmusically diverse as the MINUTEMEN, theWIPERS, the EFFIGIES, SLEEPING DOGS,the CHURCH POLICE, the CRUCIFUCKS,and the BUTTHOLE SURFERS . This shouldprovide more than enough proof (for thoseinterested in the truth) that we are not

against variation or experimentation inprinciple . Although there are certain limitsto our tastes--most of us hateunstructured noise, jazz, and heavy metalfrom a musical standpoint--we reserve mostof our venom for so-called punk /HCgroups that espouse reactionary values and"former" punk bands that are compromisingto achieve Rock stardom or regressin intohoary old genres of Rock . These criticismsare totally in line with our politicalorientation and our ,perspective on thedebilitating effects of the corporate musicbusiness, as well as our visceral revulsionagainst the commercial schlock we've beenforced to endure for the past twenty ormore years.

Third, it's certainly not MRR's faultthat bands which are peripheral to the"hardcore" scene turn to undergroundpunk institutions to get some distribution 'and recognition-- it's because they haven'tbeen able to get any coverage or helpthrough regular music industry channels.Magazines like Boston Rock and New YorkRocker supposedly exist(ed) to give suchgroups exposure, so blame them for theproblem . We're doing our self-appointedjob of promoting the international punkscene.

Fourth, Jack seems to hold usresponsible for "genericizing" the currentpunk scene, because our views aresupposedly mirrored in a series of"chain-reaction reviews" that have theeffect of causing new bands to conform topreviously established conventions . Onemay raise two objections to this argument.In the first place, I would say that he'sgreatly exaggerated our influence . Wereceive hundreds of punk zines from allover the world, and very few of themblindly parrot the MRR "line" (thoughmany independently come to similarconclusions) . If we had as much impact asJack attributes to us, how can thepopularity of would-be "rock gods" likeG .B .H . and SOCIAL DISTORTION beexplained, not to mention the uglyreappearance of neo-Nazi chic in Bostonand New York? In the second place, he'soverlooked the source of "generic"music--a lack of imagination among thebands themselves . This has always been aproblem with highly stylized, purist formsof rock 'n' roll, from the rockabilly era tothe present . For example, there was noMRR around to give coverage to 60'sgarage punk bands, yet despite the lackof equivalent cross-fertilizing publicity,groups in Peoria ended up sounding verymuch like groups in Stockton, SanAntonio, and Albany . The reason issimple--they tended to copy the materialand stylistic devices of the leading punkcombos at the time, just as today'sfledgling bands emulate BLACK FLAG andMINOR THREAT . So let's keep things inperspective!

Fifth, I find it particularly ironic thatJack would raise this complaint about our"narrow-mindedness," since we'vesuggested that he help broaden ourcoverage by 1) writing an extensive articleabout the '77-8 punk explosion (like theone Chip Lamey contributed on 60's punk),which he decided not to do because he'dlost most of his interest in modernhardcore, and 2) promoting thosedeserving bands that fall somewhat outsideMRR's purview in his own column . Insteadof doing that, however, he's chosen to usethat space to criticize aspects of thecurrent scene, which is his prerogative(not to say something that definitely needsto be done) . But under thesecircumstances, I feel that he's adopted arather hypocritical stance here.

Finally, it seems to me that theunderlying basis of our dispute is thatpeople with fairly broad musical taste oftenperceive those with narrower tastes thanthemselves as being "closed-minded," andthose with more specialized tastes typically

feel that those with more catholic tastelack sufficient discrimination . Such is thecase here . Nevertheless, although (toborrow a phrase from MAGAZINE, one of

k' faves "m mind's not so o .en that

PORTLAND- ings are looking up intown of ours . The 13th Precinct (all-agesclub) has been having shows regularly (2or 3 a week even!), featuring both localand touring bands from all walks of theunderground . Local talent is now able todo something with itself and has anopportunity for exposure . WITCH DOCTORare Portland's newest formation ; they'veplayed some killer drunken metal- edgedpunk sets and stirred up a lot of fun.They do originals ("Fucked Up) and acouple of covers.Time to look out for FINAL WARNING,local shredders who just keep gettingbetter . They had a switch in personnel awhile back when bass player Glen defectedto S .F. with Jerry A . (who is now backwith the reformation of POISON IDEA).Their former singer, Tim, now plays bass,and new singer Jeff is really great . Simonstill plays guitar and Dan plays drums ona bitchin' new set . The four of 'em haveplayed several powerful fine sets in thelast couple of months . They plan to gointo the studio in the next couple ofweeks, and an EP should be out in the

anything can fall right in," I'm perfectlywilling to accept the fact that others maylike things that I detest, and to admit thatJack discriminates within his chosen fieldof interest . However, we at MRR demand

very near future .

Don't miss it ;

I'mserious man.POISON IDEA is back together (like Isaid), and hope to get into the studio torelease a 12" . Watch for a tour after that.

The

MIRACLE

WORKERS,

ourpsychedelic/garage band, have beenplaying a lot and getting some of theenthusiastic response they deserve . Theirfun sets consist of great rockin' raw-edged originals, and cool, obscure covers.Dancing without injury--a nice change.Way cool . They have an original, "InfectedWith You", on the Rebel Kind comp LP,and a 7" EP should be out soon on Moxie .

the same consideration . If Jack and otherscan't tell the difference between TERVEETKADET and MANIFEST DESTINY, that'snot our problem. They're just not listeningtoo closely.

The JACKALS have also been playing somedance-able gigs . They're also a "revival"band, doing some scathing rockabilly/r'n'r.We're talking the real thing here, not anywispy STRAY CATS dilution by anymeans . The JACKALS are members ofSADONATION, RATS, and LOCKJAW.SADONATION hasn't been playing aroundhere very much, but they are planning anew LP on Mystic . LOCKJAW are workingon their 3rd EP.

Three zines came out recently : Ugly AsSin,

Machine That Kills,

and SweetFucking Jesus . These have all ended upsomewhat esoteric, but who knows wherethey will go . ..So things are pretty happenin ' in P-town,and it's about time . Out-of-town bands areencouraged and, of course, welcome toplay . The more the merrier, eh? 13thPrecinct : (503)221-1081 (ask for Chris G).Christeen Aebi/ 214 NW Seblar Dr/Portland OR 97210.

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LUDOVIKOTECHNIQUE (ex- U .X .B .), FITZ OFANGER (ex-T .O .C . and ex-U .S .A .), andthe PUKES, and was pretty successful . Asoundproofing benefit for the Lady withC2D, TREASON, and BARELY HUMAN wasshut down for--you guessed it--noisecomplaints . The latest show was reallysurprising-- the CIRCLE JERKS in Marin?Yep . Unfortunately, it was a drag becauseit cost $6 and was short- 3 bands anddone by midnight.Up in Sonoma County there's also a scene,consisting mostly of parties where bandsplay . I think the scene seems tighter therebecause they're further from the city andrely on each other instead of hopping thebus. Rumor has it that the late, greatT .O .C . is re-forming, maybe with a newbass player . Other bands are PUBLICDENIAL, who've been around for a while,the SKIRTBOYS and FOUR-TIME LOSERS,who are relatively new, and DOUBLECROSS, who are in limbo trying to replacetheir singer and bass player.Back in Marin, DEAD MAN'S TWITCH isthe latest name and line-up to a groupwhose nucleus has gone under differentnames for about 6 months, described asindustrial/noise type music . The PUKESare the oldest surviving band here . Theybreak-up and re-form constantly, but youcan always be sure they'll be around.They were formed by singer Ricky Puke,whose technique for vomiting at will canmake just about anyone sick . U .S .A ./FITZOF ANGER are a band with interestingsongs and lyrics . At one Mab show, singerDino got some people pretty pissed off bytelling them to quit thinking about theirpink hair and look at what's reallyhappening . Life isn't a punk rock show.When beachbum Dino headed back to SantaBarbara, they got a new singer andchanged the name. EXOTIC HIPSTERS, allfans of 60's music, decided to form agarage-type band . They just got a newsinger and are putting together a tape.That's it for now. If you have any (orneed any) info, write : Kent Jolly/ P .O.Box

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ofsociety's members, many of them, beingyoung blacks or punks, operateclandestinely for fear of police reprisals.San Francisco is a city where classhierarchy, the contrast of rich againstpoor, is defined by the skyrocketing valueof real estate . The bankruptcy of the openhousing market has resulted in a less than1% vacancy rate . . .in a town where therents are the third most expensive in theU .S . Squatting is completely illegal here.Police

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contact with armies of homeless people.Thousands of human beings, the legions of nthe dispossessed, can be found . at soupkitchens, parks, and most prominently, in 2city jails and mental institutions . On a Lnation-wide

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In this article, rock 'n' roll burnoutsMike Saunders (who was first spotted in a

Z .Little Rock garage behind a drum kit withSOCIETY'S OUTCASTS in 1966, and Waslast seen singing for garage punk bandthe ANGRY SAMOANS, not to mention

► stints with VOM, the FRIED ABORTIONS,and LENNONBURGER) and myself, JeffBale (who was once the singer in WAR

' ► ZONE, Nor Cal's first political thrashband, and can now be seen performingvocal duties for LENNONBURGER and shit

*crucial for MRR), will do for some of the

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our

time

whatLENNONBURGER have done for modern

, music . When two brilliant minds like ours*get together, diarrhea flows freely and

profound solutions to age-old crisesemerge . Having dealt so effectively below

► with the truly significant problems of ourera--the worth of JOHNNY COUGAR,whether LOVERBOY should be tortured or

► merely

killed,

and

whether TRACY

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two retarded geniuses haveconsented to reappear in a future issue

kand solve matters of lesser import such asnuclear disarmament, the location of thePalestinian homeland, U .S . intervention in

' Latin America, the budget deficit, anduniversal brotherhood . Please let thefollowing pearls of wisdom "trickle down"

► into your consciousness if you hope to*increase your self-awareness and become a

better person . Really, maaaan!►PART 1-JUKE BOX JURY1) Tracy Ullman's " They Don't Know About

XIUs" vs . Cyndi Lauper's "Girls Just WantTo Have Fun"

kM : Man, I think Tracy's has to be one of♦ the songs of the year . Cyndi, I n don't

know.

k J : Well, I'll tell ye, Ullman's song doeshave that 60's girl group sound, but it's

tlkinda wimpy . Cyndi's has a lot more► punch.

M : Are you saying that Cyndi Lauper ist3 the 'here and now'?'ww► J : Yeah, Cyndi is really what's happening.*She's where it's at.

ZM: I like that song, but I don't know

k► about her . She's a little lame.

J : She's totally lame, but it just goes toshow you that even the lamest person in

tithe world can make one great song.M : But here's the question that'll interestmarket researchers : where do you drawthe line between a lame person who makes

► a song you're gonna buy, and anotherlame person who makes an even better

j song that you don't know about buying?' ► J : Well, I draw the line in my forehead

with a razor . Seriously, I really don'tknow, Mike.M : What you're saying is that TracyUllman is going to vanish and go have herTV show, and Cyndi Lauper is going tostay around, you know?

► J : Yeah.2) T .S .O .L . ' s "It's Grey"T.l M : Wait Jeff, you only played half the

► song . J : Yeah, that's because we bothhave the general idea . Despite the totallypretentious intro, and the weak JimMorrison rip-off vocals-- actually they'repretty good as rip-offs go--

it's a

W pretty decent song . It's got a lot of tastyguitar parts, and much more class thanthey have live, I'll tell you.M : If Billy Idol is bad music, then this isdefinitely stuff to scare dogs by . That'snot a compliment . Would you say this isrock'n'roll or punk or some permutation?J :

I

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good,""'anon-categorizable cut, unlike some of the

boring rock-oriented numbers on that LP.

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J : Not quite, but give 'em another LP orso . They'll be ready after one more album.3) Johnny Cougar's "Authority Song"

*J : I don't care about this . I alwaysthought he was useless . That makes me

barf . Actually I can see why the averageAmerican fan would really go for thatrecord.M : What can I say? I think it's one of thesongs of the year.J : I think you ' ve got a serious mentaldeficiency . I suppose you like his songabout America, too?M : What are you saying? Are youcriticizing his political stance?J : I don't even know what it is . Do you?Does he?M : No, I really don't think so. He hasenough trouble figuring out three chordsfor his next song, but they are goodsongs.4) Denise Williams' "Let's Hear It For TheBoys"J : Totally schmaltzy, A .O .R . discoinstrumentation, but it's got a good hookin the chorus.M . Was that BLACK FLAG? No, we haven'tgotten to them yet.5) BLACK FLAG's "Scream"J : "I'm supposed to keep my cool . I'msupposed to keep it together ." was thatOzzy Osbourne?M : No, it's Henry Rollins.J : I was on the verge of falling asleep tothat one.M : I disagree Jeff, I think you're way outof line . I think any band that can combinethe worst moments of HAP SHESH & THECOLOR CODE and BLACK SABBATH is aforce to be reckoned with . I think it'sreally impressive . Furthermore, it provesthat a record doesn't have to be good tobe interesting . A bad record can be everybit as interesting and spellbinding as areally good one . And, in doing so, BLACKFLAG has broken all the rules of punkrock once again.6) (mystery

track)

Billy Joel's

"TheLongest Time"M : Do you know who that is?J : It sounds familiar . Oh, yeah, that's of" insect eyes" trying to make a 50'scomeback in the 80 ' s . Right?M : In my opinion, what you have there isa case of the song, not the singer . This isa great record, and you can say that thatkind of stuff should be on the radio, butthe only reason it is is because it's BillyJoel.J : That's the pathetic part.M : Yeah, only assholes have theopportunity to be on the radio, like youwere saying at the KALX seminar . If itdoesn't

show

up on

the computerprint-out, forget it.J : I don't know, Billy Joel has a certainsomething . ..M : That turns you on?J . . . .(laughter), yeahbug eyes.M : I think he learned all the rockstar

moves, but he learned them bacHave you ever seen him on TV?J : I've tried to avoid that experience.M : It's a happening record.7) The new BARRACUDAS LPM : Dealing with today by playing themusic of yesterday, that's theBARRACUDAS.J : That's my line . You ripped off my line!M : Yeah, and the BARRACUDAS haveripped off the FLAMIN' GROOVIES ' line.So what else is new?J : They're an example of a band thatstarted off OK, got really good, and thenwimped out.M : They've turned pathetic . In fact, thisstuff makes me puke . If there's anyone outthere who'd like to play 60's punk withguts- like the MC5-please contact me orJeff c/o MRR, and we'll make you famous.PART 2-DISCUSSIONM : Do you think MTV is evil, or justboring?J : I think it's pretty boring and mindless,like almost everything else on TV.M :

But

there's

still

an

inherententertainment value there . You seesomething you usually haven't seen before.J : Maybe, but it's usually something youdon't care about seeing.M : You're saying you wouldn't watchLOVERBOY on TV?J : I wouldn't watch LOVERBOY anywhere.Actually, I might check 'em out on TV fora few laughs, since you can 't find anyyuks on the sitcoms.M : I think you're really insulting Canadaby saying that.J : I think Canada is insulting us byproducing such clowns.M : C'mon, Mike ????? is a rock'n'rollanimal . J : I'd like to watch LOVERBOYgetting hacked up by Jason from "FridayThe 13th".M : I think "Queen Of The Broken Hearts "is the video of the year, but I wouldn't goto the Cow Palace to see them . Along thatline, the fact that a band has to have$30, 000 to make a video on MTV--is thatreally any different than the way it'salways been?J : Unfortunately, no.M : It's a closed shop.J : Yeah, but the commercial shit today isbetter than it was in the early 70's.M : Thanks to who?J : Thanks to Cyndi Lauper.M : And Johnny Cougar.J : Thanks to the new GO-GOS single,which is pretty damn good, and to "In aBig Country " by BIG COUNTRY.M . Yeah, that GO-GOS song is great . Butwhatever their qualities or weaknesses,wouldn't you agree that they really made avirtue out of what all punk bands did inthe first place, which is economize song

'maybe it's those

make a living at it . At least they serve aska role model for the GO-GOS . They worked'-very hard, but the GO-GOS got rewardedinstead . X are still banging their headsagainst the wall . So I guess Gina Shock iscuter than Billy Zoom, and that's whatselling music usually boils down to.J : For' some people . Either that or it'sbending over and prostituting yourself.M : Yeah, and in any complete discussion ►of the music scene, you've got to come to*terms with the political skateboard bands .t((laughter).is Right.M . A skateboard benefit for Kamchatka istonly weeks away now.is I also heard that some of those bands*were going to raise money so that theMalaysians could get new wheels for theirskateboards .

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what

I

call J ►international solidarity!M : OK, here's the big question . It's soyybig that I've been putting it off till last . •mil►Do you think the MONKEES are more*relevant to music history than BLACK tlFLAG?J : That's a tough question Mike . Thestature of the MONKEES has risen as we'vemoved further away from the 60's . At thetItime, they were considered a joke.M : Nowadays, Jimi Hendrix is a mere*footnote to the MONKEES chapter in thehistory of rock'n'roll, because he opened . ►for them on that first tour.J : Besides, he was the first HM guitarwanker, except maybe for Jimmy Page.M : And no band would ever have thenerve to cover a MONKEES song, just like~'y~jthey stay away from BEATLES covers .

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►M : And the SUICIDE COMMANDOS, whocovered "She", almost on a comparable(level .

►J : Think of it this way : Jimi Hendrix ledto HM, which is enough of an indictment initself, while the MONKEES led to the GO-.GOS . What an inspiration!

►M : Finally, at what point does boredom ♦become actual pain, e .g ., the state of,heavy metal for the last 5 years? At what*point

does

the

accumulation

andpreponderance of mediocre punk musicresult in the same audio pain?is That's a great question. I haven 't*reached that point in terms of punk yet, •Jybut I suppose it's in the realm of . ►possibility . Like everything, there's a fewinnovators and a million sheep, but if you `+like certain style enough, then you canput up with a lot more sheep.M : In other words, you're saying thatyou're the hardcore equivalent of a JUDASPRIEST fan.is

I

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length and structure, just like the waysongs were done in the 60's?is They just made good little pop ditties.M : That's a big improvement over BozScaggs.J : Fuck yeah, at least 10 times better thanthat . But that isn't saying too much,'cause 10 times nothing is nothing.M : The question is : why does the musicscene depress everyone even more than itdid in Boz Scaggs' heyday? Because theywant to feel hopeful but they don't, due tothe failure of punk/new wave to changeanything . Everyone knows that the musicscene is as worthless now as it was tenyears ago.J : Well, it's more monopolistic now, butlike I said, commercial music is better nowthen in the 70's, though it's much worsethan it was in the 60's.M : By the same token, do you think theSEX PISTOLS and the CLASH are any morepertinent or relevent or listenable thanKISS or AEROSMITH? What would you do ifyou had to choose between your CLASHrecords or your KISS records?J : I don't have any KISS records.Actually, I do have one. But the way Ilook at it is is that AEROSMITH had onegreat song . . .maybe.M : And the SEX PISTOLS had one greatsong.J : The SEX PISTOLS had many greatsongs . KISS had one or two, but KISS andAEROSMITH didn't represent anythingexcept vacuous hedonism . There's nothingwrong with hedonism, but there issomething wrong with vacuity . KISS andAEROSMITH had filled a void with morenothingness . The PISTOLS and the earlyCLASH offered an alternative.M : But you wouldn't hold KISS responsiblefor the awfulness of IRON MAIDEN and theSCORPIONS, would you, apart from thefact that they continued in the sametradition?J All I know about Heavy Metal is thatI've never liked it . I hated it before itwas even called Heavy Metal . In fact, Imade fun of people who liked LED ZEPPLINin 1968. But VENOM's records might bebetter than the new BLACK FLAG album.M : I'm not going to argue there--you ' reway over my head (laughs) . But I willargue about the FLESHTONES . They reallymake me sick.J : I think they are totally great . Theyrule, at least live . They're the most funband in the world to see.M : You think that recollections of the 60'sby people who didn't know shit in the firstplace should be allowed to form acontinuim?J I think that they write really catchysongs with nifty little handclaps and "000h000h 000h 000h" choruses . Every song is afuckin' gas . You can sing along and bopto them. They just condense some of thebest 60's elements in their songs, and ifyou don't like them, you need to get ahearing test.M : Are you saying that they should beallowed to cover a STANDELLS song?J Nobody should be allowed to cover aSTANDELLS song.M : We're in agreement there . To whatextent should the 60's be allowed to liveon in the repertoires of lame-brainedbands?J : Its the spirit of the 60's punk bandsthat should be re-introduced, not the formon a note-by-note basis.M . The notes weren't all that interestingin the first place.J : The reason they were interesting isthat they were played with feeling insomebody's garage, so the sound came outtotally raw and abrasive. Not like the 3O'CLOCK going into a 24-track studio andreproducing a similar chord progression .,which just results in syrupy schlock.M : You're saying that an expensiveattempt to recreate the LEFT BANKE sound

is not worth the effort? (laughter)is The LEFT BANKE sound, with all thestrings and horns, wasn't worth producingin the first place . But I did like "WalkAway Renee".M : It's also remarkable that most of theserevival bands don't even know that youhave to play Fender Telecasters to reallyget that sound.J : Or Rickenbackers.M : But a lot of neo-psych bands try tosound like Jim McGuinn of the BYRDS.is Yeah, most go for the folk-rock sound,not the true 60's punk approach.M : They're trying to recapture the spiritof the SONICS on Jim McGuinn ' sequipment . It can't be done, and it'spathetic . Greg Shaw has an awful lot toanswer for (laughter).M : Speaking of putrid musical cliches fromthe 60's, have you heard the new hit bythe ROMANTICS?is No, I haven't heard that, but they hadone classic DAVE CLARK 5-style songcalled "What I Like About You".M : I'm talking about "One In a Million",which has an awful BUCKINGHAMS riff.is Yecch, the BUCKINGHAMS were theworst band to come out of Chicago, exceptmaybe the FLOCK.M : And they're being resurrected on MTVat this very moment . In other words, ifthe BUCKINGHAMS were making videosnow, they'd be hanging out on boats withbikini-clad girls.is And doing the theme song for theremake of "Where The Boys Are" . But atleast the ROMANTICS had a couple ofgreat songs.M : Anyone from Detroit probably has brainrot . Now let's talk about "professional "punk bands.J " I hate professional punk bands. Itshould be a contradiction in terms. Anypunk band that wants to "make it big" inthe normal way isn't really a punk band,if you ask me.

M : Maybe, but aren't the CIRCLE JERKSthe best punk rock band that you can seein the whole wide world? I mean musically.Is there anything lacking, theoretically?is Personally, I think they're a great,enjoyable band, but at this point theymight as well be playing hard rock . Theirdumb-fuck manager called us and said theyweren't a punk band, but they wereplaying something called "slam rock" . Wetold him he had his head up his fuckin'bunghole, but the very fact that they'dhave a manager like that tells yousomething about the CIRCLE JERKS.M : So here you've got a really talentedband stuck in a rock ghetto.is Right, but it ' s of their own making.M : But maybe they'll go out and eat upthe MOTLEY CRUES and QUIET RIOTS ofthe world.is But then would they be a punk band?M : Does it matter?J : Maybe not.M : Getting back to MTV, I think noveltyhas a real virtue within the musicalcontext of pop/rock music.is Speaking of novelty, I think Weird AlJancovic's song "Eat It" is a classic of themodern aae.M : I laughed . I laughed my butt off . Thefact that he can appear on radio and TVsays something.is If it's enough of a gimmick that itcatches on, the biz might take a chance onyou.M : Maybe rock'n'roll is a novelty anyway.is It isn't anymore, though, is it?M : That's because too many people try tomake a living off of it, and some do : likeX.is I hate their grinning guitarist . He lookslike he's had a lobotomy.M : But he does a pretty good job ofrecycling Chuck Berry riffs in the 80's . Ihave a lot of respect for X . They go inevery year and make a record in order to

Within the last couple of months, there hasbeen a dramatic rise in the number ofpunks taking part in demonstrations in andaround the S .F. Bay Area . We havebecome a noticeable enough force at theseevents for even the "straight" media tomake mention of this fact . The types ofdemonstrations range from anti- nuke andanti-Reagan Administration to animal rightsand tenant rights rallies . Although punkshave sometimes been visible at variousprotests for the past several years, why isthere a sudden upsurge in the numbergetting involved? Are more becomingpoliticallly/socially aware (even as wecomplain about mounting apathy within thescene? This articles summarizes discussionswith some people who actively participatein many local demonstrations, and is aneffort to explain this new development andperhaps encourage some of you to getinvolved.Dave is a member of a Bay Area-based,autonomous affinity group called "DomesticTerrorist?", made up primarily of punks,which utilizes non-violent direct action to

that others vie the counterculture as apositive force, as that's the way ourgeneration will be able to push forwardinto action . He believes that if anychanges are brought about by thisgeneration, they will emerge from the punkscene . The most effective way for peopleto participate at demonstrations , he says,is by working with close groups of friendswho are interested in approximately thesame level of involvement and activity, andwould therefore tend to provide the mostsupport for one another . This also enablesthe concensus form of decision-making towork . All decisions are made and agreedupon by discussion and give and take,which can function well with smallgroupsoffriends.Robbie and Kevin are from the band @STATE OF MIND and have taken part invarious protests, and although theybelieve that some good results from suchactivities, they also see a negative side.They

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On O'Farrell Street outside the Hilton,bring public attention to what it considerssome major problems facing the worldtoday . This direct action is often in theform of " die-ins", which serve to show theimmediate after-affects of nuclear war . Bytaking this sort of action, the group isaccomplishing something on more than onelevel ; besides the symbolic messageinvolved, these people are also physicallyattempting to stop the manufacturing ofnuclear weapons and the advancement ofthe Administration's war machine, using anon-violent method . The group hasconducted die-ins at the P .G.&E. andBechtel buildings, and at demonstrations atthe San Francisco appearances of HenryKissinger and Casper Weinberger . Davehas been arrested for his involvement atsome of these events, but doesn't let thataffect his level of activity with the group,because for him, this sort of politicalinvolvement takes precedence over work,school, etc . He sees the Kissinger protestas the point where suddenly a lot of punksbecame involved, a development he hopeswill continue . It is important for people'sfnvolvem•nt to be positive, says Da

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mounted police officer pushed into demonstrators protestingsense that people participate, release theiranger concerning the topic at hand, andreturn to their normal lives without havingaccomplished anything . Neither of thembelongs to any kind of group which plansspecific actions, because they believe thata group will inevitably develop some sortof "leader" . The more positive result theysee stemming from protest actions is aheightened awareness that other peopledevelop, something which especially occurswhen there is extensive media coverage.For punks in particular, demonstrationscan be a positive experience because itunifies them with others . Although theyoften undergo negative treatment ineveryday life because of the way theylook, punks are accepted by othersegments of society with whom they areprotesting, because it becomes known thatthey share some ideals . One of the reasonsRobbie and Kevin offer to explain the factthat many punks attend protests, and thendon't seem particularly active, is becausethey are so visible and are thereforeprimary police targets.ddie,

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GM : "Quest Of Greed" discusses ourgovernment's penchant for conjuring up"red scares " to justify the exploitation ofsmaller nations, and how this mediafabrication serves to make the publicapathetic and the elite class even morewealthy .

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GS : "For The Five" traces the history of"propagandists of the deed" and theirtrials by the media . There are manyparallels between those indicted by theHaymarket Trial and the Vancouver 5. Ialso wrote a song called "Animals", whichequates many 'civilized' acts with those ofanimals . How can we make the eating ofmeat into a cultured activity?MRR : HOW IS YOUR DEMO TAPE DOING?GS : I feel that we weren't ready to recordour demo when we did . Since then, manyof our songs have been re-defined . Nowwe're ready for our EP, and it'll shred!MD : We sent our demo to a few places, butreally got no answer . Then we met withPaul Dawson from Fowl Records . He likedour 9- song demo, and now we are set torecord for a 6-song 7" EP on his label inthe near future.GM : It will be called Knowledge Is Power,in keeping with THINK TANK'S personalcreed. We are very excited to finally haveour words and music conveyed to a largeraudience . Originally, we wanted to recordon a Fresno label, but this opportunityallows us to avoid risking the financial endof it . We couldn't pass on Fowl's offer atthis point in time.MRR : HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THELOCAL PUNK SCENE, AND THE NATIONALPUNK SCENE IN GENERAL?GM : I am semi-disillusioned with the localscene . It seems that the new breed ofpunks aren't very interested inproductivity . While we are interested inusing communication as a means to achievea liberative change, many punks use themovement as a mask for their ownbelligerence, tarnishing punk's originalaspirations and ideals . But I put my faithinto the growth of the zine culture, whichrepresents the intellectual segment of themovement . While it's the literary material

that will ultimately endure, most punksseem to be worshipping the "rockstar"mentality they once rejected . I can only .forsee degeneration if those punks don ' ttake on a new code of responsibility anddirection.GS : It's not my place to comment on theNational Scene ., although the local sceneseems very dismal . We played a recentshow with SPECIAL FORCES, and I wasvery disappointed . Most of the audiencewas intoxicated, with little progressivethinking going on . THINK TANK passedout lyric sheets, and Blitz fanzine passedout material on Central America and animalabuse . We were naive enough to believethat

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ineducation. They made nice paperairplanes . The few remaining thinkingpunks must effect an overhaul to turn thescene around.MD : The Fresno scene is happening . I seethe Quincy punks and wish the redneckswould realize that they are hypocrites,calling themselves punk and then trashinghalls and fighting, only hurting the scene.All scenes go through these immaturestages, but I've had enough.SV : The scene seems to be stagnating, inthat the cool punks aren't speaking outagainst the jocks who ruin it for everyone.People must not be afraid to confront thisattitude.MRR : ARE YOU INTO DRUGS?GM : I follow the straight edge ideology,and I don't care if anyone thinks that it'spreaching . Preaching can be fine if youcan extract ideas from it . Drugs are anexpensive,

wasteful practice that canconsume entire lives .

I get my ownsatisfaction from creative projects, notdiving into the smug safety ofdrug-induced escapism . It's tragic that thepunk movement is leaning towards thecrippling "let's have a party" ethic.MD : I may have a beer or two, but that'sit for me . If you figure how much moneyyou spend on drugs, you could buy askateboard or an instrument and startyour own band.GS : If other people want to do drugs, andcan keep it under control, that's their owndecision . It's a matter of momentaryenjoyment vs . lasting effects . I don't everwant to be told that my habits have beenkilling my brain.MRR : DO YOU GET MUCH MAIL, AND DOYOU ENJOY COMMUNICATING THROUGHTHE MAIL?MD : I get lots of mail in connection withStop Skate Harrassment zine, but most ofthat is asking for free issues, etc . Icannot give out free issues and stayafloat . Sorry. But I do enjoycommunicating through the mail, especiallyto far off lands.MRR : TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT THEFANZINES YOU PUT OUT.MD : S .S .H . is a zine that started over ayear ago. It has progressed from a 5-pagenothing to a 11-17 something, and I'mproud to be part of it . I'm only 15, so it's

MRR : WHY DID YOU FORM THE BAND,AND ARE THOSE THE REASONS THATCAUSE YOU TO CARRY ON?GM : For me, the band is a vehicle topresent information and socio-political ideasthat will educate . I attempt to ignite thecreative spark in everyone, whether thattranslates into something written orverbal . The definition of a think tank is athought-provoking atmosphere wherepeople gather to solve problems andgenerate a productive dialogue . That ' s whyI'm doing this, not for the entertainmentaspect of it.GS : In the beginning, it was "pick up theguitar", with no need for a giganticmusical background . THINK TANK havesince become a political statement, andeverything we do has that bearing . We'renot a beer band by any means.MD : Out of boredom, I craved to be in aband just for the fun of it . But then Irealized that THINK TANK could be muchmore . It's unity that keeps us going--weall use our minds towards making thingsbetter . The fact that we are all goodfriends helps.RM : After the MANIAX (Not So Quiet . ..comp LP), I wanted to be in a group thatreally said something about what bothersme and what must change . Along with ourattitude, our musical style is alsoexpanding--we do everything from thrashto rap.MRR : SEVERAL OF YOUR SONGS HAVESOCIO/POLITICAL statements . Forinstance, what is the message behind "JaneFonda Genocide " and "Homophobia"?GM : "JFG" deals with the syndrome thatwomen everywhere must confront each day,the constant pressure to achieve a horriblydistorted feminine ideal that is based uponsurface qualities that overlook the innerworth of a person . "Homophobia" makeslots of punks uncomfortable . It deals withanother kind of social sexism, the corruptattitude that promotes the persecution ofsexual minorities without valid reason,because of macho insecurities . Both ofthese songs are meant to encourage a moreopen, compassionate environment.MRR : WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR OTHERSONGS ABOUT?

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devoted tothought-provoking essays and othermaterial . We don't fit into a specific genre,and that's the way I want it to be . Blitzand THINK TANK are my main thrusts inthe punk scene.GS : The next issue should be out terriblysoon . We've been going strong for over ayear and our circulation is growing all thetime, although ads are rather difficult toobtain . Help us out there, OK? Promotethought.GM : I'm primarily a writer . I'm a publishedpoet and plan to become a journalist whowill make the transition to full-timenovelist . Currently, I'm the editor of myschool newspaper, Junior Class President,and recently directed a fashion/art show . Ilean towards artistic endeavors-- I'd liketo open a club or try performance art.GS : School takes up a lot of my time . I'min another band--KYBER RIFLES, which isa cross between '77ish stuff and ska.MD : Skateboarding and girls.MRR : YOU'VE TOLD ME ABOUT YOURSERIOUS SOCIO-POLITICAL ISSUES . DOYOU HAVE A LIGHT VEIN IN YOURSONGS?GM : The trouble with most punk humor isthat it is tasteless and juvenile . I'm in aband to convey a message, not take cheapshots and pander to the lowest commondenominator . I think Woody Allen is funny,not Tesco Vee. We are here for verydefinite reasons . THINK TANK serves toeducate audiences, open their hearts andeyes to new concepts, not go for guffaws.GS : When I see 100& awareness in our

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mail . J .F .A . has their second LP out too.The SUN CITY GIRLS debut LP is out.And the FEEDERZ LP just hit the shelvesback home, and we suggest you shoveyour copy of it next to your BEATLES'butcher' cover . The ZANY GUYS andMIGHTY SPHINCTER both have EPs dueout in June. Recording projects fromMAYBE MENTAL, JR . ACHIEVEMENT, andNOVA BOYS seem due also.MEAT PUPPETS just finished a U .S . tourwith BLACK FLAG, and J .F .A . and SUNCITY GIRLS leave for one in mid-June.Area zines are . Gagging Dog/ 1624 GaylonDr/

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There's also a new zine, Zionoiz, availableat 1069 E ., 600 So ./ SLC / UT 84102 . Asfar as bands go, MASSACRE GUYS' 6-songEP is out on Toxic Shock, and they havebeen playing around town a lot lately.BUDDY HINTON'S REVENGE and BADYODLERS have also recorded new tapes for

epossible EPs or comps. Current bands;hMASSACREm GUY

actively playing include POTATO HEADS,MAIMED FOR LIFE, and AVON CALLING.People here are starting to get shittogether again after hitting such a lowpoint last summer. I could almost describeit with the forbidden word, UNITY! Argh.Until next time,

Jon/MASSACRE GUYS.

joy . you're really an open-mindedperson : •hat's the matter? Can'tyou take a joke? Cr are you just Jello'slittle punk? I ' m not racist . I don'tDOc

. THIS SL'N care if you're black, white, gay, ii,Jewish . atheist, but if you're reallyan asshole biggot, then FUCK CFFt!Remember if you hate nazi then tome you're as much a biggot as they are.To we, punk is-a contradiction . I'm acontradiction . I wear a swastika butthat doesn't mean I ' m a nazi . I justlike to offend biggots . Ever heard thesaying 'don't judge a book by its cover?'Call me an asshole nazi . I don't careI know what I stand for, do you' ^on'ttake shit from assholes, fuck 'em upand kick 'em out

'remember, don't judgea person by what they wear . Jude themby what they do!! And don't oe afraidof getting your ass kicked for n hatyou believe in!! and never submit tobiggots . You know the imaying 'I'm amartyr, he's a martyr, wouldn't youlike to be a martyr too?"

Love and kisses.Masi Jeff

0better yet, if, you thing shocking people with swastikas is such a

good tactic , why don't you wear your jackets down to Five Points fora little walking tour? Maybe some politically conscious Black personwould want to engage in a friendly conversation and you could explainthe "joge" . You could start off with how sarcasm is an integral part ofpunt . oven better, you might find a cheap place to have your next gig.Try leafletting the neighborhood with White Pride lyric sheets to gener-ate interest, and maybe a whole lotta people from Five Points will showup to see what you do.

The point is, the "book" we're judang goes way beyong the symbol.People who wear swastikas have to take responsibility - because thatis an action also.

UTAH-Lots to report in little space. BradCollins has been promoting shows here at

COLORADO

Dear MRR,We would appreciate it if you would

print the attached flyer . To date, theraaction to it has been the skins defacinga bunch of them at the final show atKennedy's (our now demised underageclub), and Nazi Jeff tearing up a bunch ofthem at Wax Trax Records (telling thesalespeople 'don't you ever print anythingabout me without my permission') . Weunderstand the woman mainly involved withbringing WHITE PRIDE signed a contractwith them, and we'll be interested to see ifshe decides to follow through . There hasbeen a lot of support and interest otherthan that . Although most of the'excitement' has been around the skins andWHITE PRIDE issue, we're hoping peoplewill come away with a deeperunderstanding of the more subtle waysracism is involved in members of thescenes "consciousness" . Thanks, Elaine.

q PEN LETTER to DENVER PUNHS' dys/i

Z ,There's a dinosaur in the living room, and its time

to stop tiptoeing around it! Denver skins and the wo-men who hang with them have begun to organize their oar,shows, and their latest desire is to bring a band calledWhite Pride (see leaflet below) to town . This letterconcerning racism in the scene does not single out skins,as we are critical of these attitudes in general thatwe have witnessed in the last couple years . But thisis the most recent and blatant example that has cometo our attention . We also have no problem w_t!, any-one organizing a show who wants to, but we do objectto bands like White Pride! Headbanger turner thisgroup down for KennetZys and we support him 100%.We've let too much shit slide in the past, and its time'to say STOP!

You know the skins, done you? Shaved heads, or not,the ones who wear swastikas . The ones who out-thrasheverybody else in the pit, and drive them to the side-lines . The ones who go up to smaller guys, usu,yllynewcomer, and hang a right to their jaws . then walkup to you sheepishly and say "I don't really know whyI did that . I'm tripping tonight" . Could it only belack of money and city red tape that's closing Kennedy's?Has anyone stopped to think there might've been a 'ISCL-size crowd every weekend if people could come and nothave to deal with some skins' "trip of the evening"?Then, we see one of the women who associates with theskins wearing a John Brown Anti-Klan Committee logo(Blue by Day-White by Night) on her jacket . Seemslike a contradiction . You can say that again! Read or. . ..

In fact, one of the few written public statementsby a Ugnverskin asks us to accept them for just that.In"Lick it Up-dl" Nazi Jeff says W 0TE - " Can't youtake a joke? . . .i'm a contradiction . I wear a swastikabut that doesn't mean I'm a Nazi . I just lice to offendbiggots . . . Don't judge a book by its cover . . .If you hatenazi then to me you're just as much a biggot as they are.Remember, don't judge a person by what they wear, iud;-ethem by what they do ."We are, Jeff, we are' We don'tlike what skins do, and we"ohate Nazis . No apologies. Ifyour intention is to shock peopleand then educate them againstracism and the nazi ideology ofwhite superiority, how come uponquestioning people - one nighteven a young black man- hangingound the skins, no one had even

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political charactansnc Weald be "to threaten everyuet,ng loam of order—musically, socially . poetical-

ly . Punk has to more from a stance of mindless,stupid outrage to a threat Most American punksdon't even have any concept or that II you want to

be in outrage . you can be In outrage for elm months

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this Ideal'. "moderation with m,nd all erring

substance. like drugs and booze (you're harmless

when you're out of Itt, new wan else to deeNOp itsown Mantic.. Conaclousness bmu rant use wlMl'aalready than through doctrinaire organizations . and

the elimination of .. .am and racism.

The Ides is to th,nli shout what you 'reperpetuating . Do you wenne take the world that 'spion to you . or do you wane take the world youwant? ..

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lta been put into action with the exterminationof 2 million jewish people, and the currentadvocates in the U .S . continue to terrorize andmurder "minority" • peoples while the represen-tatives of "our" government look the other way . " „4Tw g̀Not even the real nazis complain about peoplebeing biggoted for not liking them . They don't I• ~care . They don't have to . Or so they think .

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A bigger problem than the actions of skinsis what we really want to talk about . And thatis our own confusion and fear in dealing with

these issues . A large number of peopleidentify with Anarchy . But its not thepolitical anarchy that says we want a

k cooperative society that shares thewealth so everyone can develop his/herpotential . Or says we don't want to

% . fight wars all over the globe so a hand-''ful of businessmen can continue ripping% off the rest of the people on the planet.

Its been a very individual, live-and-let-

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anarchy that contain the concept" of people who want to be assholes and do

what-ever-the-fuck they want . We'vesomehow let ourselves be made to feelguilty about the idea of challengingsomeone's so-called freedom of speech orexpression . Its the type of anarchy thatsays all ideas have equal weight and val-idity - chaos is cool . We all think itwool be nice if KGrU hadn't had to pullpunk off the airwaves for "objectionablelanguage" . But would we sit back if weheard a Klansman get on the air and say.

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We don't like to use the word minority.because the arc ity of the earth's peo ;ieare people of Color .

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in high school that the U .S . is a pluralistsociety . That bunches of schools of thoughtare supposec to co-exist side by side . Andif one group didn't like the others opinion

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punk band ir. the U .S . They put out a lot ofgood information, but as far as resistance,their most popular idea is to stop eatingcorporate death burgers . In fact, that ideaof individually dropping out of the capitalisteconomy - one legacy of the CO's - didn't work.Our parents, may of whom were hippies and radi-cals, now wore in jobs they hate because theyhad to be practical to survive, and raise us.They raised us eating health foods , but handedus another Vietnam in Central America . The poinisn't to say, well fuck them for not winning, butto look back so as not to repeat their mistakes.

we'd like to start by getting our own house(scene) in order . There are a lot of less ob-vious 'contradictions" in the scene than peoplewanting to bring White Pride, that is in US.For example, most of the gigs before Kennedy's

took place in economically depressed areas (Dustboei and the ezt_a

.areas we could afford . And those areas were not so coincidental - , L . . ..__barrios . We too( advantage of the low costs, yet the attitudepunim towards the residents was hostility . No one bothered to le-, tr .eneighborhood know who we were, or what we were about . Lots of peon ie

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working as slave labor in the South for a couple hundred years to fin-ance the Industrial Revolution in the North . Somehow, after all thiswork, after even all the minorities were considered citizens (except,of course for the 'illegal aliens" who dare to look for work on landthat was theirs to begin with) find themselves on the botton of theeconomic and social ladder . Somehow, they still seem to be pissed off.Somehow it seems they're just not 'motivated' enough to realize "any-

one can make it in the U .S .A ." To atop being sarcastic for a moment,we Bay - bullshit . A system built on racism can't be equal . A gov-ernment sustaining an economy that survives on the backs of an under-class used as a threat against everyone else when they ask for morethan the capitalists are willing to cough up out of their profitscannot exist without the institutionalization of racism . Its theirprimary tool of divide and conquer, along with sexism.

We hear people saying over and over again, 'But I'm not responsible.I wasn't even born then . It didn't have anything to do with me.I didn't have any say about it . What right do minorities have sug-gesting I ought to take some responsibility?' They even turn historyupside down and fault minorities with hating white people . But areminority people in any position to enfore that? Can they afford law-yers like Joseph Coors can whenever he wants to make racial slurs?

Can they call in the courts, the cops and the National Guard to taketheir aide when white people do something they don't like? The govern-ment protects white racism in these ways, and many others . How manyminority people own controlling stock in major newspapers or televisionnetworks? Minorities may hold us responsible - and we should be . Butone-on-one is as far as their "hostility" can go.

people of color went to jail, got killed, had their organizationsinfiltrated and their offices firebombed, watched their leaders beingmurdered in order to make the little progress that exists in the formof legal rights on paper today . But each and every time those rightsare ignored or violated, they must turn, to the courts, find money fordecent lawyers, or take to the streets again . We'd be pissed off too.

Too many punks are crying about being oppressed . We've even heardsome say they're more oppressed than Black people - because no one willhire them with their mohawk . We'd like to point out that that type ofstuff can always be remedied by a hair-cut (or hair-grow) - unlike skincolor - that won't wash off . That doesn't mean its a bed of rosesfor us . Just that our position in society is better relative to whatmany people have to endure . The point is . if we really want and believein change, lets get real . Lets know our potential allies and quitbeing afraid to confront our own weak areas . The change begins withinourselves, and then we can go public.

BOYCOTT WHITE PRIDE!

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after the show", we may tare it asa joke . The tro'ucle is, not everybody who reads the tines Knows theMinos personally . So we have some-thing liKe this from Burr hot, (Lome-thine,, Better Change #2),SBC, Give me your views or. anarchy

I think its kinda trendy.a.

1 don't want anarchy.B, I kinda like my garbage to be

picked up by the government.M, I'm glad for hospitals.I,, I 'm glad hispanics don't come

up and knife me in the alley.La I'm not prejudas, god!L, That was 'a freudian slip.B, Really we're an anti-klan band,

but we hate hispanics.

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The founding fathers supposedlystarted this country out with the ideathat everybody was equal : But theymade sure to make it real clear that theright to as much money and land as onecould lay hands on was the coolest rightof all . And their right to get it start-ed a couple hundred years of history thatinduced the rip-off and exterminationof Native Americans, a war of conquestto steal the Southwest from Mexicanos,ann the forced migration of millions cfBlack people fror Africa . Black people

And we're left not knowing whether to take this at face value . We won-der what some of the Chicanos who come to Kennedey's would think aboutit . We know what the Chicanos who don't would.

Wnat co we really know, in general? What can we, together, acceptas reality, and from tnere, what can we figure out we want--and whatto do about it?

We believe there is this attitude amongst us of 'I'm anti-klan, butI'm not so sure about Chicanos" floating around . Last year Headbangerwas having a hard time finding a place for the Whipping Boy show, anda persor. in the scene involved with a Chicano community center on thenortheast side convinced them to allow the show at the center . Peopleon both, sides were holding their breath, but it turned out to be a funnight Mitt, purse showing Chicano youth how to slam, and pitching into help protect the mirrors on the walls . We heard there were a lot ofgood dialogues between people also . . . So - people to people, it worked.Yet negative attitudes linger on . When Nazi Jeff said, I'm not aracist", that's not the same as being anti-racist . Besides, to cremeextent were all racist and its a lifelong process to overcome our con-ditioning . If we're so anti-racist, how come its so easy for a whitepunk to feel that Chicanos pose such a big threat to his well-being?Read on . . .

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By RICH KURREGlobe-Democrat Staff Writer

Vice detectives raided a disco at 4063Lafayette Ave. Thursday night . ar-resting 36 punk-rock fans . authoritiessaid.

"It was like breaking up a Halloweenparty, " Detective Fred Husman said.

Husman said he and DetectiveMichael Vierting went to the BernardPub shortly before II p.m. .

"There were about 120 people in-side," Husman said . "They werewearing leather, Mohawk-style hair-cuts. chains and spike-studded wrist-bands ."

Punk-disco raidnets 36 minors

Said Husman : "They would line up oneach side of the dance floor, and thencharge toward the center . knockingeach other down to the noise of a loudband . "We called for backup officers,and took 36 persons under the drinkingage into custody."Husman said the young people paid a S3cover charge to get in.

Police turned five juveniles betweenthe age of 14 and 16 over to theirparents. and booked 31 persons betweenthe ages of 17 and 20 on charges ofminors consum . : intoxicating liquor.

One of the 31Austin ; Texas,suspected of lewd and lascivious conduct and disturbing the peace.

The Bernard Pub is licensed toWilliam Peppes of 7101 WashingtonAve . . University City, according toState Liquor Control records.

ST . LOUIS-There has been sort of a scenehere for a while, but it's not a real"support your scene" type scene--notunified at all . There are lots of people whogo to shows (100-250)--if there is one--orpeople who seem like they would go toshows

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really.Everything around here is prettyhalf-assed . For example, the OFFENDERSfrom Texas played here April 19th, and Ididn't even hear about it until the nextday . Maybe that's my fault for being a bitout- of-it, but I never saw a flyeranywhere, if there were any . Anyway, theshow got busted, and 36 minors "underthe influence" were arrested or taken tothe station or something.

There are a couple of new local bandsto report : REST IN PIECES (who openedfor the OFFENDERS, and I hope to hearthem soon), WHITE SUBURBAN YOUTH(who've got a cassette on sale locally--itsounded kinda bad to me though), BLINDIDIOT GOD (who are re-grouping thissummer and hopefully get their shittogether and find a singer because theyare musically awesome, distinctive, heavy,powerful, searing, and fast, etc . Theirtape is available from us for $2 postpaid ora buck and blank tape . It comes with afree hang- on-your-wall-size picture of theBlind Idiotic One himself .

Anyhow, Columbia, MO has a betterscene and a perfect club in someone'sbasement with very low admission, all ofwhich goes to the bands . So people like usgo down there, and occasionally to KansasCity for shows.

That's it except that you can get somefree art (crazy isn't it?) for any reason ifyou send a S .A .S .E . to : Miles & Anne/6408 Alamo #2Ei St Louis MO 63105 .

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EL PASO-It's about time somebody gotaround to sending in a scene report.Things are really picking up here in ofhell Paso. We have one steady club calledthe Rathskeller that's let us put on showsevery week . Any bands interestedinplaying here should write me, and wellset something up . We can even supply aplace to crash.Some local bands worth mentioning are:RED ZONE (my band) and RHYTHM PIGS.The former play mostly fast thrash, butwe do occassionally branch off into someobscure directions. We should have an EP

out in the next couple of months . RHYTHMPIGS are by far the most professionalsounding of all the local bands . They area 3-piece who tare all excellent musicians,who show an immense versatility in theirsongs . A new band I should mention isDARK COMMITMENT . These guys areyoung skaters that show an awful lot ofenthusiasm . Their drummer, Mike, isgreat . He used to be in an Austin-based

and called FUDGE TUNNELS.There are quite a few mags floating aroundtown . My rag, Reactor, which comes outevery few months, contains interviews,photos, artwork, and local info . But, I'minterested in printing stuff from otherplaces, so send it to me . The most popularlocal mag is Basher, put out by SteveO'Cide Saunders . Mucky Pup is Hell Paso'sown hardcore comic book . Finally, there'sNone Of The Above, that's put out byhigh school students . If you send me adollar, I'll send you all of the zinesmentioned above, as well as an update onour scene . If you send a scene report, I'llsend the mags free . Send all letters to:Otto Bon/ 9820 Lockerbie/ El Paso/ TX

It seems as the weather picks up, so dothe amount of shows . Also, the amount of"new" local bands seems to be on theupswing, with many recently playing out.Two of those newer bands are OUT OFORDER and NADSAT REBEL . OUT OFORDER have turned a few heads with theirintensity and tightness . It's hard tobelieve they've only been out a fewmonths, and, they will have something outby this summer . NADSAT REBEL openedfor G.B .H . a little while back, and areprogressing nicely each time out . N .R.tend towards metal/thrash, backed with abit of humor . LIFE SENTENCE are reallynew, only playing out 2-3 times . Ray(ex-6 FEET UNDER) and Eric(ex-ANTIBODIES) are the guts of theband, and should add a lot of strength tothe scene . EVIL EYE are back togetherwith a new bass player and drummer, andtheir first show was in early May . HAPPYTOONZ are led by ex-NEGATIVE ELEMENTdrummer Keith, and have played out onceor twice . They are planning a Westerntour, so look out . Chris (ex-TRIAL BYFIRE/STRIKE UNDER) and Dave and Tomare playing together in a new band withno name . Very different from any Chicago(maybe American) band, with lots ofEnglish influence, great vocals and guitar,and expect to debut in June.

IOWA-Struggling is the only descriptiveterm for the Iowa City scene! No bars hirehardcore bands . The only place to play isa church that rents out the basement . Theshows usually consist of about 4-5 bands.STIFF LEGGED SHEEP, SOVIETDISSONANCE, the PESTILENTS, and 149DEAD MARINES (the band I'm in) are theregulars . Usually, about 250 or so peopleshow up, but lately they've been gettinglarger . 149 DEAD MARINES use a totalmedia blitz, with posters on everyavailable surface . A lot of the trendietypes show up to gawk at the mohawks,etc.Life on the street can be an endless battletoo . Baseball bat-wielding rednecks cruisearound looking for punks, but are tooafraid to stop or get out of their cars.Although it's a college town, not manyfanzines are put out . I saw one, but itdidn't last long.

A new band out of Tipton played at thelast show . They were called thePREACHERS, and were pretty good . Thissummer looks pretty bleak . As of thisreport, our band is on a tour, and amember of SOVIET DISSONANCE is goingto Europe, so I don't know what wilhappen with bookings, etc . But try

Now for the older bands . ARTICLES OFFAITH have finished recording an LP andhave worked out a deal with a Midwestlabel--it should be out in July . They arealso planning a series of short tours thissummer . Everyone should have heardNAKED RAYGUN's new single, and thealbum is soon to come . Also, Jim (drums)has finally left the band, and a newdrummer is in the making . BIG BLACKhave been doing a few shows every month,some being out- of-town . The new EP,Bulldozer, features N .R . and ex-N .R.people . EFFIGIES' new LP is in the finalstages and should be out by the time youread this . They are also keeping busyrecording again, with an EP or LP tocome . Also, a big summer tour is in thewings . SAVAGE BELIEFS and RIGHTS OFTHE ACCUSED are both playing out a bit,and the latter has re-arranged almost allof their material! G .N .P . seem to havecalled it quits, but look for Lori (guitar)to put something together.We (Last Rites) have a compilation tape outcalled Code Blue, which features a few ofthese bands and some national bands.Also, Pat (manager A .O .F .) and I aredoing shows seperately . Pat can bereached at (312)528- 5091, and my numberis (312)549-1194. Also, Last Rites fanzineis still going, so write it at 1717Sunnyside Beach Rd/ McHenr IL 60050.

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anyway, you never know . Contact Dave orJohn at (319)337-9806.Rich Eicher/ 1121 E Washington St/ IowaCity IA 52240 .

Bands, give us a call and we'll help yaout . Looks like a hot summer here for thescene .

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WESTERN MASS-Greetings from WesternMass, breeding grounds of backstabbers,freaks, and liars . Since our last report,things have being going up and down inour small scene . THE MASSES, BLACKCHRISTMESS, TECHNICOLOR YAWN, DEEPWOUND, 6TH COMMANDMENT, GREYMATTER, DA STUPIDS, OMINOUS SEAPODS, ANEREXIC OBESITY , and BLINDTRUST have all broken up . Mike (ex-ALLWHITE JURY) and Scott and Kevin (ex-DASTUPIDS) are forming a punk-type band.These 3 people were in the VANDALS (notL .A . 's) , the area's first punk band threeyears ago . WAYNE & THE WANGS are anup- and-coming trio, who boast 2 formermembers of DEEP WOUND . NOPRESERVATIVES are a unique hardcoreband who went into the studio after 6 daysof having a complete line- up . They will

It's like a soap opera here in Boston thesedays, what with all the bands shiftingmembers and break-ups . First off, ChrisDoherty has left JERRY'S KIDS . The lasttime JERRY'S KIDS played Boston was withthe CHEAPSKATES at Chet's . Thatevening, Chris was heard to say, "This ismy last show with JERRY'S KIDS, butyou'll

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withSTRANGLEHOLD, CHEAPSKATES, andGANGGREEN ." This speech was deliveredduring a brawl between Rick Jones ofJERRY'S KIDS and Mike Dean ofGANGGREEN . Mike got clocked in themouth that night due to his obnoxiousheckling and offensive slurs which causedRick to snap in the middle of JERRY'SKIDS set .

make their debut at the Anthrax inConnecticut . PAJAMA SLAVE DANCERShave replaced their singer, and areplanning to go into the studio to recordanother 24- song demo tape . Their firsttape is still available for $4 (Jon Long/ 24Belden Dr/ Westfield MA 01085) . B .I .U.have replaced their drummer with GREYMATTER's percussionist . B .I .U . has asong on Barricaded Suspects, a ToxicShock comp LP . EIGHTH ROUTE ARMY'ssecond 45 is due out soon . One of NewEngland's best bands come from Westfield.They are the OUTPATIENTS . Nary a soulhas denied their incredible talent . Theyhave 2 songs on Bands That Could BeGod, a comp LP of Massachusetts hardcorebands . Growing Concern fanzine's lastissue came out last June, and chances ofan upcoming issue are slim . The editor of

the event . The only thing missing at thiscircus were the clowns . Speaking ofwhich, Todd The Wad (formerly of theBLOODY MATTRESSES from Madison)headed west with Jake (legendary slammerand former guitarist of KILSLUG) . Reportshave it that they have disrupted everymajor scene on the West Coast due to theirEast Coast insolence and brazen Bostonwrecklessness.

JERRY'S KIDS might be heading west thissummer (as will be the FREEZE), withDave Aronson replacing Chris on guitar.Dave was the J .K .'s guitarist on BostonNot L .A . JERRY'S KIDS other guitarist,Bob Cenci, is starting up a rockabillyband called the ROCKIN' DADDIOS.As for GANGGREEN, their record is out onTaang Records . There is talk of a smalltour, but with members of GANGGREEN,that's difficult-- what with Chrisperforming in half the bands in the city.This month, he'll be playing guitar for theOUTLETS (r'n'r) with Springa (SSD) onvocals and Jon Anastas (D .Y .S .) bass. Asfor Bill Manley, he is missing . Reportshave it he is hiding in the hills ofBraintree with Stacey . Bill might never befound again, but his incredible bass workis documented on the record . As for MikeDean, there is probably going to be afight in Braintree this weekend, and mostlikely

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TheCHEAPSKATES have called it quits . Theirdrummer, Dave Collins (also of D .Y .S .),is starting a band with Ted and Nate of

that zine is supposed to put out a localcomp 45, but chances of that coming outare also slim . Worth Mentioning hasn ' t putout an issue since October, and theeditors are hesitant as to whether theyshould put out another issue . Savvy is anew free zine (163 Nonatuck St/ FlorenceMA 01060) . I put out Withdrawal (14Winslow Ave/ Northampton MA 01060).Send 504 and 2 stamps for the latestissue.There are a few summer shows planned forGreenfield's Grange Hall (KILLROY fromCA & ADRENALIN O .D. from N .J . on one,RAW POWER from Italy and RIISTETYTfrom Finland on another--July 6 andAugust 3 respectively . Any bands wantingto play either show should call Brian at(413)527-6177.Loaf tough or die! Eric Gaffney

CHEAPSKATES, Ron & D Rail (formerly of007, now DUB 7), Malachi of MISSIONIMPOSSIBLE, and John Soxx of theF .U .'s . No name yet . Speaking of which,the F .U .'s went into the studio again andrecorded 16 songs for their 3rd LP.

STRANGLEHOLD has been playing outquite a bit, and sounding better thanever . Their record is almost out-of-print.$5 to One Step records/ 321 Huron Ave/Cambridge MA 02138 . DEATH WISH has anew singer known as Demitri . He's atwisted individual and should beinteresting to watch on stage . The FREEZEhave been playing out quite a bit lately,and will be on the Flipside compilation.DYS are back after mbnths of practicing,and KILSLUG are going to start playingout again at last . New on the venue frontis The paradise, supposedly interested inall-ages shows . Ask for the Count at(617)254-'2053 .

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SYRACUSE, NY-If interested in getting a.ig in this area, call Dick Fuller at(315)475- 6056, or write to P .O . Box 12/Syracuse NY 13201 . They're trying to get- scene off the ground and would likebands touring this summer to get in touch.

There were still a few people thrashing, aswell as Rockin' Bob Cenci (JERRY'S KIDSguitarist) reciting poetry to coincide with

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reallydifferent . New York would be reallyviolent, but a scene like Harrisburg wasalmost totally the opposite ."Boston, they find to be dominated by anexus of "crew" bands such as SSD, theF .U .'S, JERRY'S KIDS, and D .Y .S . Whilethere is nothing really wrong with this, itdoes create a neo-rockstar association withonly a few groups dominating . The fansbecome sheepish, and ultimately close theirminds to something a little less wellaccepted . "Although it probably sounds abit cliched", says Johnny, "think foryourself and don't let anyone tell you howto be . That goes for within the scene also.Hardcore is what you make out of it,rather than what another person does ."This seems more especially relevant whenone can plainly see that punk is adoptinga uniform, in both clothing as well asmusical taste . From the jackhammerapproach of early Boston hardcore bands,a slower style has evolved . PSYCHO haschosen an almost entirely opposite path,opting instead to expound on theenormously powerful potential of raw,stripped-down thrash . Certainly, they ' rejust as powerful as any of their hometowncounterparts.With the release of their first record, theband set up a small label called Ax/ctionRecords, and are planning to release a fewnew projects in upcoming months . Thefirst will be a long- delayed (due tofinancial difficulties) cassette compilationthat will feature PSYCHO along withnational acts such as N .O .T .A.,ROSEMARY'S BABIES, and locals on thelevel of CANCEROUS GROWTH and theANNOYED . This will be the first of anumber of cassettes, and bands arencouraged to send tapes foconsideration . Secondly, an album of newmaterial will also be forthcoming in thnext few months . Other releases such as aCANCEROUS GROWTH EP are also beingconsidered.Nonconformity ultimately becomeconformity . What was once considered"punk" becomes fashioh, and it grows to apoint' where the rebelliousness is lost.PSYCHO, by being a bit removed froBoston's clique of popular bands, realizeshow ultimately ineffectual a voice becomewhen it is blindly followed . If anything,without traditional "hardcore" trappingsPSYCHO, through their explosivelypowerful attack, gets one to actually

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"Punk is about non-conforming" saysPSYCHO bassist Bill Bois . "and what a lotof kids are doing is trying to look like acertain ideal" . PSYCHO do not fit thatideal . Instead of following Boston's heavymetal trend, the band has found theirstrength in playing straight ahead thrash,and with the sheer velocity of theirapproach, it's a wonder they've notreceived much attention in their 3 yearexistence.According to guitarist Johnny X, "At firstit was straight edge, but that ' s not reallythe case nowadays . A lot of people whowere straight edge in the beginning,aren ' t any longer, but their following hasremained just as strong ." In light ofBoston's, or for that matter, any scene'sfactionalism, it takes a great deal of timefor a non-accepted band to emerge.PSYCHO has taken that route . "Therecord", says drummer Denny Disorder,"is a big reason for that ." True, if in factanything helped the band in gettingexposure, it was their 8-song EP, releasedin the summer of last year . All songs werefast, relentless thrashers, abounding withhooks and played at an unbeatable speed.Since the record's release, the band hasundergone a major change in the vocaldepartment . Original vocalist, Mick Keddy,quit the band early last fall due to musicaldifferences,

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CONFLICT3-song 7" . Write to them at SlinentScream Records/ 24-07 31st St/ Astoria NY11102 . Also out is the U .S . CHAOS 12".To be released soon are the HEARTATTACK Subliminal Seduction 12", anAGNOSTIC FRONT LP, as well as a FALSEPROPHETS album on their own label.CBGB's, the longtime staple of Saturdayafternoon HC matinees is going to stophaving regular shows, with occasional onesinstead . Johnny "I'm opening a club"Stiff, finally did so (the 6BC), but theplace got shut down by the cops . Stilldominating the club scene is Rock Hotel.Out-of-towners should call Annette at(212)673-8826.The second issue of Angry Young ProudSkinheads is out, and be ieve it or not,it's better than the last one! Dan Anger isa super-hardcore god, and you shouldsend him a S .A .S .E . as soon as possible.If not, yoU are a true cementhead . Justwrite to A .Y .P .S ./ Box 334/ 5 UniversityPI/ NY NY 10003.A couple of issues ago I mentioned a tapecompilation that will feature INSANITYDEFENSE, SATAN'S CHEERLEADERS, NO

CONTROL, VATICAN COMMANDOS,VIRUS, BAG PEOPLE, ARTLESS, EVENWORSE, PORCELAIN GOD, RAT AT RATR, SONIC YOUTH, and others . It iscoming out ultra soon, so send $5 for anifty cassette and booklet . Write to (nochecks) : Brian/ 162 Bonair Ave/ NewRochelle NY 10804.HEALTH HEN have released a 12" EP.They sort of sound like if NINA HAGENand the MINUTEMEN had kids.The new issue of Killer is out, and it issimply inhuman! Ittures the SWANS,Henry & Lydia, and several other ultracoolthings, so send $1 today to : 84 Eldridge

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St #5/ NY NY 10002.MOD FUN have recorded a nifty 4-songdemo tape . It is not as god as as seeingthem live (the ultimate party), but stillworth owning . So send $3 postpaid to:New Cassettes/ 131 West Passaic St/Maywood NJ 07607 . Pow!A newer band that has been playingaround these parts a lot lately is HELLBENT . They have done several biggershows, and done some recording . More onthem in future issues.If you're a band who is pissed because Ididn't mention you, it is probably becauseI don't know much about your musicalunit . There are a lot of bands in thistown, but very few who really doanything . If you think you're doingsomething valid, then send it to : LyleHysen/ 8 Wyngate PI/ Great Neck NY11021 . Thanks.

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As if it weren't bad enough to have onevery conservative national Americannewspaper (U .S .A . Today), we've now gotanother . The Washington Times has beenblitzing the TV airwaves with expensiveads proclaiming itself a "proud,pro-American voice" dedicated to bringingback "tradional American values" . What theads don't tell you is that this newspaper isowned by the Moonies, those same Koreanfolks who organized most of the supposedly"spontaneous" anti-Russian demonstrationsfollowing the Flight 007 incident, thosesame Korean folks who have strong ties tothe South Korean C .I .A . and otherworldwide fanatical Right-wingorganizations, and those same Korean folkswho were convicted of tax evasion in theUnited States . Yup, real American values!!

Cults andSchools

By Erica GoodeSel.er . Con..po.d. i

More than half the high school studentsin the Bay Area have been on the receivingend of recruiting drives by members of cultgroups, according to an extensive survey bytwo psychologists released yesterday.

Ot the 1010 teenagers from schools in nine BayArea counties who took part in the survey, 54 per-cent said they had been approached at least once byrecruiters for cults such as the Unification Church,Children of God and Krishna Consciousness.

Fully two-fifths of the students reported fromthree to five contacts with prosely-tizing cult members, and ono-fourthsaid their involvement with a cultextended to six or more encounters.

"It is surprising the extent towhich cults are making contact withkids at this young age," saidStanford University professor Phil-ip Zimbardo, who directed the sur-vey conducted by Cynthia Hartley, agraduate student at San FranciscoState University, in 1980.

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PHILADELPHIA-There's uncertainty aboutthe future of the Community EducationCenter as an available hall . LCDProductions is going to continue to dogigs, but under a new name . More on thisas things develop . There's controversyabout a NY promoter who wants to put onPhilly gigs (see Lenny's accompanyingletter) . Whatever his story, LCD hasnever tried to compete with, monopolize,or rip off anyone.The Vancouver 5 benefit did very well,and a positive night with no troubleoccurred . Much-appreciated help came fromRhythm And News (alternative newspaper),Wooden Shoe Books C Records (@ shop andlocal support group), LCD Productions,and many folx . A local R .A.R . gig istentatively set for July . HUSKER DUplayed at the basement (again) called theWest Side Club-for the first gig there in ayear . It's doubtful that there'll be more.LCD wants to do matinees, and would'vedone one with HEART ATTACK if all thebullshit didn't start.LITTLE GENTLEMEN's LP is called AnotherDay Wasted .

Ex-drummer

Wayne1"Roof-Rabbit" Paupst is forming a HMband . AMERICAN DREAM's EP is IdentityCrisis . KREMLIN KORPS is also about torelease vinyl . Chuck Meehan (bass) quit YDI and was replaced by Steve Lukshides(ex-WKDU DJ and editor of CounterAttack) . Y DI now does a great cov— emsthe theme song from the old "Tobar The8th Man" cartoon.Bands who want to play in Philly shouldstill call Christian or Donna (215)662-1739or Lenny (number below).FEEDERZ--please come to Philly!Ron Thatcher/ P .O . Box 263/ Maple ShadeNJ 08052

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A STATE OF MIND is a group of peoplejoined together to creatively express theirideas/ideals in print, and through music,artwork, photography and performance . Wechose our name because we are anarchistsand believe anarchy begins as a state ofmind--an attitude--a way oneacts/reacts/interacts with people and theworld around them . Anarchy begins as asocial

(and

personal)

evolution--anindividual change that people choose tomake in thier everyday life---anacceptance of the responsibility for ourown life and the lives of all living thingsaround us, a rejection of the forces ooppression and the tools of repressionsexism, racism, authoritarianism--adinfinitum . We hope, through our work, tomake those we come in contact with moreaware of the alternatives available to them.When this interview took place, themembers present were Robbie, Rip, Mark,Greg, Allison and Kevin . The responsesshown are amalgamations of the opinionsexpressed by each member of the band.

MRR : IT SEEMS THAT YOUR BAND HAS APARTICULAR PHILOSOPHY ON WHEREAND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO PLAYGIGS . PLEASE EXPLAIN?@ : When we play a gig, we want it to bsomething special .So, our shows will bfew and far between, so that we have timeto work on the specialness for that show.We see too many bands playing almostevery weekend, and it seems like theydon't have time to work on anything new.We don't want to fall into that.MRR : SO YOU THINK THE SPECIALNESSOF BANDS IS DILUTED BY THE AMOUNTOF TIMES THEY PLAY?@ : That, and also the venues they chooseto play at . We try to stay away from thevenues we feel are exploitative or arebecoming just another 'rock'n'roll' clubwhere we see people getting hassled . It'sbecoming a 'rock'n'roll' circus . Also, it'simportant to us to get our message acrossin other forms of media, such as literatureand film. But the shows we do play will befree or at minimal cost.MRR : YOU'RE VERY IDEALISTIC IN THISSENSE . . DO YOU FEEL ALONE?@ : No, we don't . A lot of bands would bwith us on this, but they love to performand therefore sacrifice some of their idealsin order to play . It wouldn't have to bthat way if we banded together . There'splenty of halls that would book an event,but it's just a matter of doing it iadvance . Its so easy though to just callpromoter and let him handle the who)thing instead of putting the responsibilityon yourself . That's what we are trying tdo, take more responsibility at our shows.MRR : SO THIS ALL DIRECTLY RELATETO HOW YOU PRACTICALLY APPLY YOUIDEALS . SOME PEOPLE LOOK A"ANARCHISTS" AND SAY, "THEY'RE JUSSPOILED LITTLE RICH KIDS WHO HAVTHIS PHILOSOPHY, BUT IT DOESN"TCHANGE ANYTHING"@ : Well, it's changed us, and we certain)aren't rich either . But we are a bit oldethan a lot of the bands.MRR : DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AMESSAGE

ACROSS

THROUGH

POCULTURE?

THIS

ISCOUNTER-CULTURE, NOT A POLITICALMOVEMENT, SO HOW MUCH IMPACT D

YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE?@ : You can if you really work at gettingyour message across . Look at M .D .C.They have such a large following at thispoint . They're not going to reacheverybody, but they did a lot to educateme . They talk to people, live with people,they're on the road constantly . In thissituation, they are accomplishing a lot byplaying a lot . But that's not the routewe've chosen, and there is more than onway to do something . Our way isn't themy way either, and we ' re not trying to

say that . It's just a way.RR : I LIKE THAT.

@ : A state of way, a way of mind.RR : WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER

PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS OF YOURBELIEFS?@ : One example is our efforts to help outother bands by making recordings for thefor practically nothing . It really helphese bands out that deserve to be on tapr vinyl, but just don't have the money.RR : HOW DO YOU DO THIS?

@ : We have recording facilities . . .shabby,but good enough. Recording is Rip'hobby, and in the past few years he'helped TRIAL, ATROCITY, and TREASON.We also have access to cheap printing, and

stribution . It's a lot more than jusrecording.

RR : HOW DID YOU BUILD UP THONTACTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS I

YOU'RE NOT RICH?@ : Sort of a networking of connections.People knowing people willing to helpeople . I don't think we're doing enoughwith it yet . We can always do more. I'mproud of what we've done at this point.But I'd like to see us do a lot more.

RR : MAKING A GENERALIZATION, I'VEFELT THAT SOME PEOPLE USE THE TERM"ANARCHIST" AS AN EXCUSE FORAYING "I'M LAZY" . I KNOW IT'S A

PREJUDICE . ..

@ : People who use it for an excuse don'teally

understand

what

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term

Anarchy is an overused word . It's easyto say "I'm an anarchist", but a lot ofpeople don't delve into it . They criticizeothers, but never apply their criticismtowards themselves . But it's not up to usto say who is and who isn't an anarchist.MRR : I KNOW THAT VEGETARIANISM ISAN OVERWORKED TOPIC, BUT MRR HASNEVER REALLY GONE INTO IT IN TOOMUCH DEPTH . SOME READERS HAVEWRITTEN THAT THEY'D LIKE TO HEARMORE ON THE SUBJECT . PERHAPS WECOULD COVER IT A BIT HERE, UNLESSYOU FEEL IT IS TOO MUCH OF ATRENDY TOPIC OR TOO CLICHED.@ : Well, if it's trendy, it ' s a,good trend.It's like any other trend--there are thosewho really believe in it, and those whodon't . The people who don't have any realbelief will stop eventually . Those that havetruly been exposed to this idea will feelstrongly enough about it to continue, andhopefully influence others . There arepersonal reasons for why we arevegetarians, aside from the fact that weare sickened by meat itself . There are alot of good reasons . For one, it would beeasier to just feed people all the grain thatthey feed these cows with . It's ridiculousto stuff all the cows with grain, when thatsame amount of grain could feed five timesas

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MRR : I UNDERSTAND THAT THESIS . ONEOF MY RESPONSES TO THAT HAS BEENTHAT IF SUDDENLY TODAY THEYSTOPPED FEEDING ALL THAT GRAIN TOCATTLE, THE PROBLEM WOULDN'T BESOLVED BECAUSE THEY'D JACK UP THEPRICES OF GRAIN . IN OTHER WORDS, ITISN"T A MEAT VS . GRAIN PROBLEM, BUTA . PROBLEM OF CAPITALISTDISTRIBUTION . IT WOULD BE LIKE WITHOIL, AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TOAFFORD GRAIN . SO IF EVERYBODYBECAME VEGETARIANS, IT WOULDN'TNECESSARILY SOLVE THE HUNGERSITUATION.@ : You're probably right in that respect.But it's not a black L white subject . Thesystem is the problem, and that mustcease first . You could say that the systemis the root of this evil tree which thengrows into the trunk, branches, andstems . If you're thinking of ridding thestarvation problem, you can't start at thestem . You've got to go to the root, whereit's getting its nourishment.

MRR : DO YOU THINK IT ISCONTRADICTORY FOR SOMEONE TO NOTBE A VEGETARIAN AND STILL BEPOLITICALLY CONSCIOUS AND ACTIVE?@ : We're not here to judge anyone ; that'sup to the individual . If one of your strongpoints is world hunger problems, andyou're not a vegetarian, then it seems tome to be a bit of a contradiction . But Iwouldn't say it's wrong.MRR : DON'T YOU FEEL IT'S WRONG TOEAT PLANTS TOO, BECAUSE THEY AREALIVE ALSO? IT'S BEEN PROVEN THATTHEY REACT TO VIOLENCE.@ : There are a number of differingopinions on this . One is that if you takean onion and cut it in half, it will continueto grow . But if you do the same to achicken or cow, you end its life . Somepeople think that's OK . We don't . Peopledon't realize what these animals gothrough, how they're processed . Theyhave no life at all . Cows, pigs, andchickens are taken from their parentsweeks or days after birth, are put inboxes or cages where they can't even turnaround, and are fed cement dust for quick

eight gain and their own excrementbecause it doesn't cost the factory farmeranything . Man has even put his sexualoppression on animals now . The sows(female pigs) are tied up so they can'tmove at all, and the boars (males) areallowed to roam freely among them toimpregnate them as often as they feel like.The factory farmers call it the "raperack" . Baby cows are seperated from theirmothers at birth to become veal-- wheretheir flesh becomes "nice and pink" due totheir anemia .That's what the consumerwants . Male chickens can't be used foranything, so they are ground up and usedas pet food . I can't think of that and thengo out to the Colonel for some "extracrispy" . We know that these animals feelpain, just like us. That, for me, isenough reason to not participate in thesla •hter of animals.

MRR : THERE SEEMS TO BE A CERTAINAMOUNT OF SELF-IDENTIFICATION GOINGON HERE . IN OTHER WORDS, BECAUSEANIMALS ARE SIMILAR TO HUMANS, IT'SEASIER TO IDENTIFY WITH THEM . BUT APLANT, BECAUSE IT SO ALIEN FROM US,CAN BE SQUISHED. BUT IT MAY "FEEL"TOO.@ : That's almost a strong point . Butanimals are used in food production and inexperimentation because people are used tothinking of them as a lower life form.They can therefore be exploited and usedfor the needs of the higher life form.That's what we are saying, and that isthat we feel that plants are a lower lifeform which can be used for our eatingneeds . Animals are exploited and raisedfor profit first and foremost . We don't feelit is right for us to support the slaughteror the industry . If there are those whofeel it is OK to eat animals, but don't wantto support the industry, there are chickenand beef products that are sold, usually athealth food stores, where the animal wasallowed its freedom before slaughter . Also,there are range free eggs, which meansthe hens lay their eggs in a naturalenvironment, and not in battery cageswhere there are 5 hens in a space for just

RR : BESIDES BEING VEGETARIANS, DOOU EAT HEALTHILY?

@ : At first it was more of an emotionalhing, not eating animals . Then I realizedhere were a lot more reasons for being aegetarian . One being that theat-to-protein ratio is ridiculous . Peoplehat eat meat 2-3 times a day are gonnaet fat built up in their veins, whichauses arterial sclerosis, and that can leado senility . The ratio with plants is a lotsetter.

RR : ALL THIS LEADS TO THE TOPIC OFONDITIONING . LET'S TALK ABOUTHAT.

@ : Society is brainwashed. The TV is apacifier . People turn it on for company.Females are shown as weak, passiv-homebodies or sex objects . Blacks playsupporting roles to whites . Almostveryone's rich . All these things have an

effect on us in our everyday lives . Peopllive out their fantasies through TV . . .it'voyeurism . Capitalism holds the bait infront of us, and everyone's grabbing foit . TV, ads, billboards . . .all give us ataste of what we think we need to b'.happy . So we go out and work to makmoney to buy these things we're told wneed . But if unemployment is high andpeople can't get what they've beenconditioned to believe they need, then th-crime rate goes up . That's the only ocheway to get these things . . .by hurtincothers that seem to have what you want.MRR : WILL THINGS CHANGE? HOW MUCHOF WHAT YOU DO IS BASED ON THEEXPECTATION OF CHANGE, AND HOWMUCH IS JUST PERSONAL?

@ : To believe you're gonna make a trulybig change in the world is just a big pipedream . Our idea is to change our ownlifestyle for the best, and live the way wethink is right . And hopefully to expandour ideas to others . Hopefully, they'llquestion themselves and realize there is analternative to the past . We don't feel wecan overthrow the system, but we can live•ur lives the way we'd like within thatsystem. We're not saying we're gonna liveour lives in our own little world and fuckthe rest . We're constantly learning moreways to better the world situation and helpourselves and others . And, we're alsodoing everything possible to overthrow thecapitalist system . That's what life's about:learning . For people to deny thatpossibility of learning, in any situation, isa waste of life, and mind death . Peoplewho accept the conditioned lifestyle that'sbeen set out for them are allowing thesystem to win again . We're not here tooffer any particular alternatives, but aslong as people realize there arealternatives, that's good enough for us.Go out and live them-- our alternativeisn't the only one, and it may not be theright one.MRR : WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?@ : The lifestyle we've chosen is a lotharder than just "get up, go to work,come home, watch TV, and fuck the wife".We see the shit we live in . We waddlearound in it just like a pig in mud . Butunlike the pig who can walk out of it,we're stuck in it . Sometimes it gets to feellike a ton of bricks on our backs .,pushing us deeper and deeper into theground . It gets harder the more you pullyourself away from the "normal" society.When you say you're becoming avegetarian, it's more than just not eating

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meat. t s a so not eating eggs . There'sanimal products in many things : soap,bead, vitamins, clothing, shampoo . . .and ifyou let yourself go the full spectrum,there's the products tested on animals too.You leave yourself a limited lifestyle . Ifyou don't want to support the "multi-deathcorporations", you not only have to avoidthe big names like Exxon and Coca-Colaand Bayer, but you have to watch out forall their subsidieries . You keep finding outmore and more things you can't eat orsupport, and you start to wonder if thereis any good in the world . So there has tobe a line you draw somewhere, but youkeep drawing it further and further backeveryday.MRR : THERE'S ONE VIEW THAT THISSOCIETY IS ON ITS WAY DOWN, ANDANOTHER THAT EVOLUTION WILL HAVEA POSITIVE EFFECT ON MANKIND . WHATDO YOU FEEL?@ : Evolution continues, but capitalismconstantly cheapens it . From the minute weare born we are taught to compete . Thatis capitalism . It is competition . Sex andlove have been cheapened because theyhave to be put into a little package tosell . They constantly maintain control andif anything new comes along, they take itand use the media to make it smaller, tocut off the real aspects, and sell you thepackage . Like new wave music . Yet,things are advancing in other ways.Sexism, for example . We are far moreadvanced than we were 20 or 50 yearsago . In the area of relations though,instead of learning to accept love andpeople for what they are, we' ve adoptedthis real paranoid attitude where therelationship doesn't really happen, eventhough both parties realize that men havebeen forced into this dominant thing andwomen into an object . They don't get anyfurther than that, and become paranoid oftheir personal lives . So many women thinkof men as the oppressor and hate theminstead of trying to teach them how to getalong with women and learn to adjust tochanging roles . That's not progress at all,just turning the tables.MRR : I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUTYOUR MUSIC A BIT.@#1: Its not too important to me, actually.I really don't know where our music isgoing . Where it goes it goes . I have ideas,we all have ideas about what direction we'dlike to se it go . Whether it goes hardcorepunk or classical, that's where it goes.That's fine with me as long as the messagegets out . I really don't care.@#2: I think the music should be an equalpart to what we're saying . I'm pretty surewe know where we are going, for we allpretty much express the same general ideain our lyrics . But, we really haven't foundmusic which is good . We're open toanything, music- wise that is . We justwrite, and it happens, or it doesn'thappen.3: I think our music is just a way ofcommunicating our ideas . I don't think itis the most important way, and I don'tthink it is the least important way . It'sprobably just an effective way of gettingour ideas out to a lot of people.4: The music is very enjoyable for me.It's the kind of music I listen to, and it'sfun for me to sing . But without themessage it would be real empty . It's awhole picture for me.@#5 : We're still searching for ourselves,but one thing I really do feel great aboutis that there are no boundaries in thisgroup . I can do anything--play a violin or•ick u• a .uitar .

MRR : AS A WITNESS TO YOUR ONE S .F.APPEARANCE . . . .YOU DID ONLY .4 SONGS,BUT IT LOOKED LIKE YOU PUT ANAWFUL LOT OF WORK INTO THEM . ITWAS A PRECISION MANEUVER, AND HADA LOT OF DRAMA TO IT . IT CERTAINLYWASN'T SOME BAND PLAYING LIKE THEYWERE REHEARSING, WHICH IS OFTEN THECASE.@ : Those songs were done in a certainorder for a specific reason . They flowed

'together, and that's the way we feel aboutany show . It's hard for us--we worry andargue "Oh this isn't right, it doesn't havethe energy level, and this song doesn't gowith that one, and something should beafter that" . We put a lot of sweat into ourrehearsals ; we make it very hard onourselves, just like everything else . Maybethat isn't good, because our output isvery low.MRR :

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LIKETHIS QUESTIONING YOURSELVES?@ : We always question what we are doing.We talk about as much as we play atrehearsal time, which is good . We're veryopen with each other.MRR : DO YOU ALL LIVE TOGETHER?@ : We live in a warehouse,Robbie, Allison, Kevin, and Chris fromCRUCIFIX live in one space . Rip lives inanother space with a few friends, andGreg lives in San Francisco . But he's onlya phone call away, only ten minutes by carover the Bay Bridge to glorious SanFrancisco . @ STATE OF MIND keeps incontact with AT-TT.Laughing

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TORONTO-We ' ve got a strong punk scenehere--there ' s not a lot of us, but we knowwho we are and try to do our best to keepthings going . I'd say there are 100-150 ofus working to keep up lotsa gigs . Most ofus are in bands and try to play togetherwhenever possible . And since there are alot of young kids and young bandsspringing up, there promises to be abright future here . There are 3 main barsthat allow a steady stream of punk bandsto play, with a couple of big halls and afew tiny weird bars doing the odd shows.There are quite a few hot bands playinglately, some of whom are on the classicT .O . Hardcore 83 tape . One of these isDIRECT ACTION, a personal fave . Theyare a high-speed energy blast with short,tight thrash anthems and sort of aDISCHARGE sound . Their second cassettewill be out soon . CHRONIC DISORDERstarted 2 years ago as 14-year olds whobanded together for protection to stopgetting beat up . Now, looking like littledemented skins, they produce a fast,hard, Oi/punk sound . I don't know how todescribe A BUNCHOFUCKINGOOFS . Theyare very strange, and when they make itthrough a set, very good . They go fromeerie sci-fi music to off-time heavy HC.The songs are very political and reflectthe str et punk life th•y I've A P . : . .Is

OTTAWA-First, I'll give you a rundown ofwhat bands exist right now here in thecapital : D-PLOY, formerly known asZOMBIE EXTERMINATORS, have played afew gigs in the past little while, and areliked by many . Heavy bass, whineysinger, steady drumbeats, and a theatricalsinger make them really interesting andenjoyable . PORCELAIN FOREHEAD arePORCELAIN FOREHEAD . What can I say?They still kick ass . UNWARRANTEDTRUST, Ottawa's all-girl band, are reallygood and have great lyrics . HONESTINJUN have gone through a few changes,with the bass player quitting and singerDave playing bass too . BUGS HARVEYOSWALD have a new guitarist, makingtheir sound much fuller . Then there are afew other bands like FAN CLUB, CONKSGO BEAT, INSOMNIACS, SOGGY FROG,end RAW SEWAGE that contribute to ourscene and are good and differ in their ownways.

he last Y .C .P . gig was an all-ages show,and we made back all our money . Thepeople who let us use the hall said wecould use it again . My friend and I arealso working on an Ottawa compilationtape, and hope to have it out in the next2 months . Back to shows though, it'sreally good now because in this end of

are excellent, having a sort ofCLASH/MOTORHEAD sound, and theirstage show is frenzied . Their lyrics arepolitical too, about the Cruise! animalslaughter/etc . The FORGOTTEN REBELSshow up from Hamilton every few monthsand

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of '77 stylefunny/rebellious rock . they haven'tchanged in style since then, and singerMickey DeSadist is becoming an Elvis ofthe punk scene--frilly shirts and adoringgroupies to boot . Playing a lot lately arethe great RAVING MOJOS, who are a 60'spunk band . They're underrated andunknown as yet, but watch for 'em . Theyare superb live, and a good cross-sectionof punks come to see them . They play alot

with

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punkbands--LIVING PROOF HOODOOS,AFHAKKEN, and the 68 ' S . the YOUNGLIONS and QUARANTINE have broken up;new versions of both will be coming outsoon . Some bands who vanish and reappearare Y .Y .Y ., DEAD END, U .S .,MICROEDGE, CREATIVE ZERO, and thelegendary VILETONES . New bands comingout

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ofConsciousness), BOP DOG, SCREAMING

BLOODY MESS, and BLIBBER AND THERAT CRUSHERS (who actually have beenaround a while, but are only now becomingappreciated for their sick, satiricalhumor) . Sometimes nearby outta townbands play, such as 10,000 SCREAMINGAPACHES and the K9 SEDUCERS (who arepsychobilly).

I'd like to think that here in Toronto wehave a pretty good scene--quite unified,no stupid prejudice over color, some slightskinhead trouble, but if there are a fewfights, the Metro Police jump in realquick . The cops "worry" about us toomuch . When M.D .C . stayed at a househere last year, it was hot "Vancouver 5"time ; the phone was tapped, we were allwatched, and our garbage was taken to besearched . Two members of M .D .C . werefinally arrested after steady harrassment,and had to pay $4400 to get out on bail.But this summer will be a great one herein T .O . I wanna see lotsa U .S., U .K .,European, and Japanese bands come totown.Vic Notorious/ 211 Roxton Rd/ Toronto,Ont/ Canada/ M6J 2Y4.

Canada we've set up a kind ofmini-network . When a band comes here,they can count on at least 3 other gigs in3

other

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Steve Seshie (514)465-8021Quebec City-Luc Martineaux (418)681-6922

Bernarde (418)651-4253The :ocal radio station, CKCU, playseverything , so if bands want airplay,they can send their stuff to me or thestation.Thanks, Melanie Kaye/ 88 McClaren St #4/Ottawa Ont/ KIS OK6/ CANADA .

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together for about a year-and-a-half . They

do English-sounding punk, played with the

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thrash style . . .GHOST SHIRT SOCIETYhave been together for 6 months . They are

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PARTY) . They're not hardcore, but they

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of humor . Song subjects range from bag

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soon? . . .ZAZA is the newest band, an all-

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I'm writing because I'm fucking pissedoff at all the goddam preachy bands in ourscene . You see, ever since our spaceshipsstarted plucking children from your planetand raising them here for food and medicalexperimentation, certain self-righteouspunx have been whining about "humanrights" and "people liberation" . Howpathetic . When are they gonna stopramming their vegetarian ideals down ourthroats?!After the latest nuclear war here, when allour livestock was annihilated, I became aveggie too, but when someone tells mewhat to do, I inevitably do just theopposite . Like the other night when mymom told me not to flush the new-born"veal people" down the john . Okay, so wehad to go to McNaldo's that night andshare a plate of Human McGonads -- Ishowed my mom, right?Now these so-called punx are telling usnot to buy black flesh jackets -- whereare we supposed to put the names of ourfav bands then, retardos?! Also, I don'tsee anything wrong with injecting cancerinto lab kids to try and control thedisease . Hey, if it wasn't for human

experimentation, we would never havediscovered the hazards of glass-eating.These "human lib" punx must beanti-science or something!I mean, you humans eat other animals, sowhy shouldn't we eat you? We have morebrains than you, so we deserve to be yourmasters . By the way, I heard you recentlylanded a man on your moon . I'm (heh,heh) really (heh, heh) impressed!I'm just glad that most punx on yourplanet think it's okay to do what you damnwell please to the lower animals . Afterreading an issue of MRR, with the killerphotos of leather-clad cattle -- er, punx-- and the obligatory anti-animal lib slags,I can enjoy my 'breast of teeny-bopper'with nary a twinge of conscience.In fact, I'm embarrassed to admit that weMolarheads cannot rival your race in animalexploitation . In the United States alone,five billion animals are raised andslaughtered for food each year . If ourblood-lust matched yours, your specieswould soon be a mouth-watering memory.

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ZtThe following interview with MarcusFeatherby of Pax Records was done on theMRR Radio show. Marcus is responsible forsuch compilations as Bollox To TheGonads,

Punk Dead-Nah Mate, andWargasm (the proceeds of which weredonated

to

various

anti-war,

etcorganizations), and other young groupslike the MAU MAUS and ANTI-SYSTEM.MRR : Marcus, what was that song we justheard?M : XTRACT, from Punk Dead-Nah Mate,The Smell Is Just Summink In YerUnderpants Innit . The title was actuallymade up by Steve Ignorant (CRASS) . Wewere gonna call it Bullshit Bushell, but wedidn't want his (Garry, ex- Soundsmagazine, creator of the Oil myth) name inthe charts.MRR : I've been talking with you the lastdays, and you go way back in the U .K.punk scene . You were involved in radio asone of your projects.M : We started off a punk program verysimilar to this one, in Sheffield.Unfortunately, what with a lot of apathy, Ididn't have time to do it 100$ on myown . . .and it sort of fizzled out about 6months ago . It was a shame, as we need astation

like this (KPFA Berkeley)

inEngland.MRR : You've also put on shows, which youcontinue to do?M : No, I just don't have the time either . Ifound that promoting shows takes up 3days a week, if you want it to besuccessful . MRR : You had found aninteresting venue to do 'em in though.M : Yes, a loft above a pub which hadn'tbeen used since the last World War . It wasfull of pitting shit . ..MRR : Ahem . . . .the F .C.C.M : Oh, sorry . Bleep Bleep . We can saythat word in England . We went up with abunch of kids and we cleaned it all outand it worked really well . In the end, thebrewery was so pleased at the way itturned out they even put in a stage forus . Then the landlord changed, and all hewas interested in was making a lot ofmoney . . .and that was the end of that.MRR : At this venue, you pulled a veryinteresting social experiment off.M : Basically, it was one of the very firstplaces in the country where we had bothpunks and skins together . I don't knowwhat it's like in America, but in Englandthere's a very big gulf between the two.And, 4 or 5 years ago, most of theskinheads tended to be very politicallyright wing, and so when we started off wehad the choice of saying to these people,"Well look, you cannot come into ourconcert", in which case they would'vehung around outside and created a lot oftrouble . Or we could say, "Look, come in,but just behave yourself while you're inhere. If you do that, we'll get bands inhere that you enjoy . You play ball withme, and I'll play ball with you" . It workedtremendously, and in 2 years we neveronce had any trouble.MRR : That's remarkable.M : It can work and does work . Not alwaysthough.MRR : Jello has told me that you're quite arespected figure among the kids in theSheffield area.M : Perhaps only in the Sheffield area.(laughter)

MRR : So, you work with those kids a lot?M : Yes, and they've !ways been fair torde . It works both ways . They were verymuch involved in choosing the bands andpolicing it themselves. We never had abouncer at all . . .it was just me at the topof this flight of stairs, and we managed it.I don't think you need heavy security,and if you do, quite often you precipitatetrouble.MRR :

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everybody on apersonal basis.M : Yes, I used to speak to them one byone, as they came through the door . Butlikewise, they responded, so it wasn't justme that did it.MRR : In the record area, you were sayingyou had done labels before you did Pax.What were some of the earlier projects?M : I was very lucky, as I arrived inSheffield at a time when it was veryexciting and a lot of new things werehappening . People like CABARETVOLTAIRE were only just beginning to beknown elsewhere . HUMAN LEAGUE werestill

very

much

an

experimentalband . . .names like CLOCK D.V.A.,ARTERY, I'M SO HOLLOW . I put out a fewearly records with bands like that . I findI drifted into more of a punk thing andbecame more involved with bands outsideSheffield far more by accident thandesign . It was a natural personalprogression . So Pax reflected the way thatmy mind changed . I have altered a lot inthe last 5 years because of punk.MRR : Mind???M : Some of us don't have them.MRR : So tell us a bit about yourphilosophy behind the label.M : I'm not a businessman . I do it almostas a sort of hobby . Really, I'm there as acatalyst for other people to do their thing.The only real criteria I have for anythingthat I do is that I like the people . . . .andthat what they say is decent . Whether it'scommercial or good musically has alwaysbeen secondary . So I've not always beenvery successful . But then, you get agroup like the MAU MAUS-- their firstrecord was recorded in 5 hours . I did thatproject because I liked them as kids andthey were making a big effort in their ownbehalf . That encouragment on that first45, which fortunately did very wellbecause it was timed right or something,has led them to grow and thinkdifferently . They put a lot more into theirwriting and playing . So that's a casewhere it really worked.MRR : Then there's a case where it didn't.It involves the EXPLOITED . In MRR zine,you had written about why you wereputting out their recent LP . On thesurface, it seemed incongruous with yourphilosophy, but maybe not .

M : This is a case where it didn't workUnfortunately, there wasn't perhaps apersonal bond between Wattie and I thatwas strong enough for me to be able tokeep what I thought was going to be avery positive change in the EXPLOITED ' sattitudes . That never became solidified,and once they found themselves back intothe realm of having hit records and goingback on tour and surrounded by the sortof people they'd always mixed with, theyjust reverted back to their old attitudes.That was a great personal disappointment.MRR : And in the process, due to variousbusiness dealings they initiated withoutyour knowledge, they've had a big affecton your label, right?M : It's had quite a devestating affect,yes. It wasn't until after I put theirrecord out that. I found out that due to allkinds of contracts they'd previouslysigned, there seemed to be 50, 000 peoplewho all had staked a claim in them . Andeverywhere

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bothrecord-wise, t-shirts, publishing, etc .,everything has been absolutely bedaddledwith complications, none of which were mydoing, but which I got saddled with.MRR : What's the current label situationthen?M : Pax is going to have to keep (to put itpolitely) a low profile . I've got to sortthese problems out . As a gesture ofgoodwill, I shall make sure that theseproblems are resolved . But that does meanthat in the rwantime I'm not going to havethe finances to do anything elserecord-wise for quite a long while . I couldjust bankrupt my company and set a newone up the next day, but I shan't bedoing that.MRR : And as to one of those problems,there's the famous Pushead art ripoff.M : Again, I found myself right in themiddle of it . I was presented with someartwork which the EXPLOITED wanted onthe cover, not knowing until after it wasreleased where it came from.MRR : In this case though, you don'tbelieve that the EXPLOITED consciouslyripped it off?MRR : They showed me the originaldrawing, which didn't have a visible nameunderneath or anything.MRR : It was on a ticket or flyer?M : I can't recall, but I don't think thatwas a deliberate act on their part . I havespoken to Pushead to work things out.MRR : So what's next?M : Some of the groups I've been workingwith, like the MAU MAUS andANTI-SYSTEM, are going to start theirown labels . And I'll help them do that,and get them established . So, the bandsthat were on Pax will continue going.Hopefully, the EXPLOITED might not, butthat's another story .

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Come along now : a mounted o"ticeman orders demonstrators to come down from the Stock Exchange steps duringyesterday's 'Stop the City' protest in the City of London

STO THE CI y!"Stop The City" happened on March 29th--3000 punks in a square mile of the heartof London, a demonstration without amarch, without a rally, and withoutleaders . "The City" is a compact area ofthe capital, a grey mass of banks andbusinessmen . It's here that the financialdeals behind war, exploitation, andoppression take place : investments infascist dictatorships, big money loans forarms expenditures, and a corporateinterest in the imbalance of resources andfood . . .We went to oppose these lies andexpose the ignorance which keeps thisinjustice happening.We talked, and shouted, and ran . Thepolice reacted in the only way they seemto know-- by arresting, punching, andbeating as many people as possible.Barclay's Bank, which loans vast sums toSouth Africa's apartheid/racist regime, hadits windows smashed ; a Rolls-Royce waswrecked-- action against property, todemonstrate the anger of those who can'tstand back and see wealth squandered onluxury goods when children are dying ofstarvation every second of everyday . . .The protest was nonetheless peacefuland good-humored, with punks/anarchistsadding a splash of life to the city streets.The people who work in the city stood andstared and muttered quietly to each other.I wonder if any of them thought aboutwhat we were trying to say? Can robotsthink?Boffo/ Southview House/ 60 Carr Crofts/eeds LS12 3H0/ En . land

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The UPRIGHT CITIZENS started inJanuary '81 . The line-up hasn't changedsince then . It is Mario on drums, Crockeron bass, Uli on guitar and Anton--me--onguitar and mike . I'm 20 years old, theother three are 19 . First, we played songsby other groups, but pretty soon westarted playing our own songs . In April'81, we had our first gig . Since thenwe've had about 50 gigs, mostly in '82.In December '81, we met the people whorun Hart . They asked us if we wanted tobe featured on a compilation LP, and weagreed . So we recorded the first versionof "Fuck The Army" . In February '82, werecorded our 12" EP, which was releasedin June '82 . It's sold 2,000 copies so far,and is sold out for the moment ; perhapsthere will be a new edition soon . In '82 weplayed about 25 gigs, mostly all overGermany, but also two in the Netherlands.In December '82, we played our best gigwith the DEAD KENNEDYS . After JelloBiafra heard our maxi-EP here inGermany, he liked us so much that hewanted us to support them in Osnabrcick.Someone phoned me up, asked me if wewanted to, and we said yes . The DEADKENNEDYS are really great ; they're allvery nice guys and very, very friendly.When we played, Jello was on stage, andhe told me after the gig that he enjoyed ita lot.In May '83, we finished recording the newLP, which was released in July and hassold about 800 copies so far . In May, wealso supported the BAD BRAINS inCologne and the U .K . SUBS in Bochum.This year we ' ve just had a few gigs . Ithink the possibilities of playing aredeclining.Besides the 12" EP, the LP, and "FuckThe Army" on the H'art sampler, we arefeatured on a compilation tape on XCentricNoise-Grevious Musical Harm . The songson it are "Swastika RatsNow Or Never"(both different mixes), and a song called"Stormy Mondays".With new lyrics,

the song "StormyMondays" is also featured (as "A Gift ToEurope") on the Keine Experimentecompilation LP . There is also another newsong called "Stand Up" on it, a differentversion of which will be on MRR's WelcomeTo 1984 compilation.We've also recorded music for our next LP.It'll be a bit more varied in style, but stillhardcore . It will contain fourteen songsand will hopefully be released inSpring/Summer '84 . The songs are "DeadBlood", "Macho", "Heaven or Hell", "TheMan With The Gun", "1984", "Stand Up","Blind Hate", "Hammer & Sickle","Adrenalin", "Future Dreams", "Arm TheWorld To Death", "No", "Drunken Hero",and a cover version of the Dylan classic,"Blowing In The Wind".

We'll be releasing this new LP on our ownlabel . We hadn't had any trouble , withH'art, but we want to be as independentas possible . Another reason is that wewant to sell the records cheaper . We'vealready had the chance to sign withVirgin, but we refused, 'cos we want to"make it" without the "help" of a bigcompany .

A . Kunze/UPRIGHT CITIZENS

MRR : WHAT'S THE GENERAL SITUATIONIN GERMANY?U .C . : I don't know what you mean by "thegeneral situation"--concerning the punkscene? Well, there isn't a real scene hereanymore, especially where we live . Gigsare very rare . It's a bit frustrating.MRR : ARE THERE MANY BANDS INGERMANY?U .C . : Well, I don't know how many punkbands there are here in Germany . But Ireckon that there are about 40 on vinyl,and about 15-20 that have got an LP out.Unfortunately, there are very few bandswhich play good music, and it's even moresad that there are even less groups whichhave got good lyrics . Most groups hereplay "pure noise" (in the true sense of theword), with shitty words . Records byGerman groups I can recommend are theTOXOPLASMA LP, the CANALTERROR LP,the NAPALM 7", the second and third LP'sby

SLIME,

RAllIA

(tracks

onUnderground Hits and the Waterkantsamplers), the RAZORS, DAILY TERROR,SS ULTRABRUTAL (just musically), andN .A .S.MRR : WHAT ARE THE INFLUENCES OFTHE PUNK BANDS AND PEOPLE IN THESQUATTER MOVEMENT?U .C . : I can't tell you what influencesother punk bands here . We started theCITIZENS because we wanted to makemusic . We all liked punk music . But wealso wanted to write lyrics in order tomake people think . I think that's the samewith 99% of the punk bands . First of all,they want to make music in order to havefun, to have success, to break out ofnormal life . Most of the squatters aresquatting because they can't afford themoney for a legal flat . Then there are alsoa lot of people who don't want old housesto be destroyed by speculators makingtheir profits.MRR : HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROBLEMSWITH "NAZI PUNKS" BECAUSE OF YOURLYRICS? ARE THERE MANY OF THEMTODAY?U .C . : Well, happily we haven't had anyproblems with Nazis yet, though we ' vealready had problems with people who justwanted to come to gigs in order to maketrouble . They're just a bunch of fuckingbully boys . "Bully boys go outfighting--it's always the same old game."But there's been a general increase ofNazis who still believe in Hitler, andthere's also an increase of people whoaren't really Nazis, but who believe inmany aspects of Nazism . They wantforeigners to fuck off . But I think we'renot the only country with these problems.It's the fucking same everywhere.

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MRR : WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THERELATIVE IMPORTANCE OF LYRICS ANDMUSIC?U .C . : Primarily, we are musicians, and asmusicians we want to make good music . We

aren't preachers, leaders, etc . But wewant to make people think . Therefore, wewant to try to write our lyrics as clearlyas possible in order to show people whatwe think about things . We don't say thateveryone has to agree with us, but wewant them to know why they disagree.When people don't think, they're justsheep who follow the leaders . Think foryourself! But to be honest, we're a groupbecause of the music, not the lyrics . If wejust wanted to tell people our opinions, wecould write a fanzine . But I think with thehelp of music, you can make people listento you . Unfortunately, today's kids act orlive by the lyrics of their favorite bands.Therefore we try to write appealing music.It's hard to explain in a few words.

GUVEIIhMENf WINS!

GENERAL ELECTION

SHE 111011E IS YOURS

YOU'VE GOT 111E RIGHT IHE If1Glll 111 VOLEDEMOCRACY? NO IT'S JUST A JOKE

LEFT OR RIGHT- YOU 'VE GUT IHE I . HOII.EOUT WE WILL LOOSE COS THEY AIN' 1' OUR VI11111

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IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY

Chorus : WHOEVER YOU VOTE FOR

GOVERNMENT WINS'OH NO' TIIEIIES NO CHANCE

FOR US TO WIN

MRR : WHAT ABOUT PLACES TO PLAY INGERMANY?U .C . : There are very, very few places toplay . Most places are either pubs or youthcenters . Big theaters are only for foreignmega-groups.MRR : WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THECONCEPT OF ANARCHY?U .C . : Well,

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aren'tcommunists . . . .we are the UPRIGHTCITIZENS . No kidding, we like manyaspects of anarchy, but there are so manydifferent views, so many differentinterpretations that I've given up callingmyself an anarchist . It doesn't matter.There are so many punks who callthemselves anarchists, and they're nothingbut fucked-up wankers who think anarchymeans chaos . They misinterpret "No LawsAnd Orders" . I think all that counts isthat you mean what you believe in . I'm an"Upright Citizen" in the true sense of theword . I'm "upright" because I say what Ithink, because I believe in equality,because I believe in freedom, because Ibelieve in disarmament, because I believein non-violence, because I am aconscientious objector . . . .because I belivein "Love" and "Peace" .

HAILI2NE: 'PE THE DAMNED OF TODAYUI : ICASIS OF SO( IFIAWE'RE IIEs'I SEII COS WE AIN'T LIKE. THEMA SUBCULTURE I'HAF HAS TO HE CONDEMNED

WE'RE DEFAMED 10S WE AIN'T CONFORMEDA GENERATION OVT'OF NORMTHEY CALL U . S.SCOM COS WE llON'T WANKA LIVE THEIR WAYA RIOOOI DISGRACE THAT HAS TO HE POI AWAY

HAIEII-Ill WE AIN'T' DUMB K 111 .1NDWL 1i :>E (1111 BRAINS 10 111111I7E.WE'RE III EF1CI11I, YEAH, W'E'RE IRE SNAGA REBELLIOUS YOUTH THAI HAS TO HE GAGGED

Chorus : HA FED-WE'RE HA FEU-JOIN THE HALED

MRR : WHAT ARE YOUR OBJECTIVES AS ABAND?U .C . : We want to have success! Yeah,right, success--success, in order to travelaround the world . We want to sell as manyrecords as possible, not because of thecash (though it would be great if we couldmake our living with our music), butbecause we want to see people appreciatingbands that deserve success . And becausewe want to show the music biz that we canmake it without big companies (we alreadyrefused to sign with Virgin) . We will bedoing our next LP on our own . We want tobe as independent as possible . If the nextone isn't a "success " , well stop making

YELLOW PRESS

sr ANDAL SCANDALANOTHER SMEAR-CAMPAIGNDAY BY DAYTHEY TELL YOU WHO 'S TO BLAME

MURDER MURDERYEAH THEY LOVE THE DEATH105 BLOOD-CURDLING STORIESMEAN A LOT OF CASH

SCANDAL SCANDALOH THEY REALLY MAKE ME SICKPAGE III PAGETHEY'RE FULL OF SHIT

Chorus : YELLOW PRESS YELLOW PRESSSENSATIONS MEAN A I .OT OF CASHTHEY MIKE YOU THINK YOU'RE: WELL-INFORMEDHUT THEIR YELLOW TRUTH JUST MISINFORMS

DISTORTED TRUTH AND 1111111 LIESIIEFAM,1'lIONS ARE THEIR SPECIAL LINEAND YOU'RE THE F0111 . WHO All1'1'ONTS THAT PRESSCOS YOU STILL RUY THEM YELLOW CRAP

records . We don't want to flog a deadhorse . Let's wait and see . Apart from ourplans to put out an LP, we want to releasea 7" EP soon on XCentric Noise Tapes . Onit there will probably appear two oldertracks, and three new ones ("FutureDreams", "Right Way", and "Dead Blood").It should be out around early summer . Wehope to do a big tour soon, but at themoment it isn't possible . Some of the band

members have jobs or are in school, andI'm doing Civil Service (instead of doingmilitary service) because I'm an Objector.MRR : HOW CAN PEOPLE GET YOURRECORDS OR WRITE TO YOU?U .C . : The LP is available for $6, and the12" for $5. If you'd like an interview foryour fanzine, just send us questions . Ouraddress is : A. Kunze/ 1m Springfeld 31A/14250 Bottrop/ West Germany.

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Lazy Sweden here! Its been a while sinceyou had something on Sweden, so here wego . Records still come out and new bandsstart playing, but there aren't enoughplaces for concerts . And when there areconcerts, some people are so drunk theydon't remember the concert afterwards.Why go at all? We need more places to gig,but its up to us to find them!The second Really Fast comp LP contains14 Swedish bands (as did Vol . 1), andamong them are SOTLIMPA, BRISTLES,NYX NEGATIV, MOB 47, ASOCIAL, andothers . The long awaitedHUVUDTVATT/K .I .K . album will be out bythe time you read this . It'll be a bit moreexpensive than the comp LP's, but it'swoth it . ANTI CIMEX should have releasedtheir third EP by now . ASTA KASK'ssecond EP is also out, as are EP's byE .A .T .E .R ., MODERAT LIKVIDATION, andKRUNCH . I'm told that EXISTENZ areplanning a new EP . Other bands that haveEP's on the way are : AVSKUM, BRISTLES,and NONCENS . Another comp LP iscoming, but I don't know very much aboutit . I've heard rumors that SLAM will putout an LP.Bands that have tapes out are : KEKKONENHEROES, SUBTIL UNGDOM, SOTLIMPA,TATUERADE SNUTKUKAR, --SNOBBSLAKT,DISTRUST, S .O .D ., etc . Another RAPEDTEENAGERS tape is also to come out . Wehaven't seen the MISSBRUKARNA tape yet,but it'll be out soon, hopefully . There'salso a bunch of comp tapes coming, but Ican't count 'em up.That's all I have to tell you about Swedenat the moment . feel free to write, but sendan I .R .C . if you want an answer thisyear!! Really Fast/ c/o Stary Fagerberg/Tradgardsgatan 12/ S-59600 Skanninge/Sweden

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MADRID-Not much has been happening,but quite a few bands are forming, andthat ' s a sign that something will going onin the future . 1985 are a new band who'veput out several pamphlets and are veryactive . CRISIS NERVIOSA have beenrehearsing in one of the band member ' shouses, but the neighbors called thepolice, and that's that . It seems thatSALIDA DE EMERGENCIA are togetheragain, but who can believe those guysafter breaking up and re-forming athousand times? DELINQUENCIA SONORAare recording a tape . Another promisinggroup that has just formed is DISTURBIOSURBANOS . Their singer, who has justreturned from required military service,used to sing with DELINQUENCIASONORA, and the guitarist, Rafa, is fromthe fanzine Telepunken . O .X .POW areplaying a lot lately, and not in the

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Punk in Italy dates from '77-'78, butthat time the scene really sucked . Somebusinessmen tried to put out records, butthings didn't go well, so they declaredthat 'punk is dead' . But then a lot ofyoung kids came from the streets anddecided to start something by themselvesbecause they were tired of getting kickedout of places by cops, and because theywere tired of the stupid fighting betweenpunx 6 mods, mods & rockers, punx &rockers, etc.They started doing it by themselves,because everything here means a politicalactivity . This is especially true in Milano,where the first conquest came about . Thekids found a place in an occupied house, asquat, at Via Correggio 18 . Here theystarted a club, the Vidicon, where showswere held for very cheap prices for somemonths . After that, they opened a biggerplace, the Virus, at the same location,where bands could find a place to gig, andwhere punx and skins could meet eachother as friends . There were problemswith the police and the neighbors, whodidn't want punx around all drunk, noisein the night, and all the bad faces . Aftera year the Virus was shut down, but afterdemonstrations and fundraising, a newVirus was built on the site of the oldVidicon . Now, almost every Saturday nightthere are shows, with bands from all overItaly, and foreign ones too like M .D .C .,BASTARDS, DISORDER . There's also afree practice room (bands pay only theelectricity), a mini-bar with the cheapestprices in all Milano, and a shop thatdistributes zines, tapes, records, books,and anarchist press from all over theworld.One of the great things here in Italy isthat almost all the bands put out theirrecords by themselves . They sell them atgigs at cheap prices, as the regularrecord shops generally suck the kids drywith their prices . The cost of importedrecords, especially from the U .S., isexhorbitant . Instruments are also veryexpensive, as the state puts a high tax oneverything (as they do with records too).So bands try to sell the records at gigswithout the state stamp on them . If theyget caught, it's a big fine and off to jail.But ultimately, who cares??? You musttry!

Now t ere are more p aces i e 'irus, aplaces that sell self-produced punk stuff.The first was in Bologna, from the AttackRecord label . It is an independent, run bythe band R .A.F. PUNK, who are anarcho -pacifists . Also, some skins have anindependent label, C .A .S . Records, runby NABAT, a skin band from Bologna,who put out records by both punks andskins.The early recordings here were rough andbadly recorded . But now, bands arelearning how to produce well withoutpaying a lot of money for it . Also, a lot ofbands (most of whom now are fast thrashtypes) started without knowing how toplay, and as rehearsing places are hard tofind and instruments very expensive, it'staken a while for them to improve . Butnow they are very good! Some of therecorded punk bands who I think are thebest are : INDIGESTI (split up), SHOTGUNSOLUTION, FALL OUT, C .C .M ., IMPACT,RAPPRESAGLIA, PEGGIO PUNX, EU'SARSE

(split

up),

BLOODY

RIOT,DECLINO, UNDERAGE (split up),WRETCHED, SHOCKIN' TV, STIGMATHE,CANT, REIG, NIGHTERS, etc . As to thosenot yet on vinyl : RAW POWER, WARDOGS,CRASH BOX, JUGGERNAUT, PUTRIDFEVER, I REFUSE IT, TOXICAL, DIECOP, FUCKERS, NOISE BRIGADE, KINA,NEGAZIONE, KOLLETTIVO, STALAG 17,and more . Oi and skin bands with recordsare : NABAT, DIOXINA, ROUGH, andBASTA.I can help help you get Italian records, asI am in contact with a lot of bands, and Ican send them to you . Send me check' ormoney order . Every 7" record is between2-3 dollars, postpaid . Also, the RaptusItalian punk compilation LP is available for$6 postpaid . I'll get the stuff you want.Stefano Valli/ Via Zezio 28/ 22100 Como/ITALY.

Special thanx to Stefano Bettini for tryingto co-ordinate an Italian scene report forMRR . We'll try to print some of it nextissue . Meanwhile, you can get his zine,N .D .F ., for $3 at : Via 27 Aprile, 4/ 50129Firenze/ ITALY .

Here's a small report . I want to startwith records. A single by the DEADNITTELS (Nittel was a politician killed byterrorists) came out in Feb . of '84 . Also,a split LP with EXTREM on one side cameout . EXTREM have a good sound, and singabout thg problems of the system. Therewas anotier group here in Vienna calledSCHUND, but they broke- up in 1982.They had a German female singer, and hada 45 and tape . These records only cameout in small quantities, most of which weresold at gigs or small shops.A new band are GRUFTROSEN, who are anall-female group, the first here . The bestbands at the moment are MASSAKER andS .T .D . MASSAKER's bass player was theguitarist in SCHUND, and their guitaristwas in Munich's Z .S .D . They will berecording . in the future . S .T .D . containsthe ex-drummer of EXTREM, and theirdebut ,kas at the Anti-Pope Festival inSeptember . Their music expresses theaggressiveness and hopelessness of ourtime.In Vienna, there is a place called theGaga . It is a very big house with a hugecourtyard, practice space, and housing forpunx . In 1982, about 150 Viennese punxmet here,

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RED BERETDebut 12 track album . From LongBeach, California. Contains aSrTt.ashing cover version of The

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Hi! this is )Renato Filho, editor of AlertaPunk zine . I'm writing to give you th-aTtet goings on in the Brazilian scene.Here's the news:SAO PAULO-The first punk scene in thiscountry, where there have been punkssince 1978 . Here, punks have always beenassociated with violence, and worked hardto "earn" this reputation . There are stupidpeople who have infiltrated the scene, notknowing what it means to be a punk, muchless about anarchy! They think it meansgoing out, breaking everything, andfighting with heavy metal rockers . Some ofthem don't like hardcore thrash, notknowing that today's scene is a fusion ofpunk and thrash, along with anarchisticideas . However, there are also some truepunks who work hard for the scene'sgrowth and improvement . The bands keeprehearsing, since we rarely have gigs, andthe only survivors are : OLHO SECO (witha new drummer), PSYKOZE, RATOS DEPORAO (who recently put out an LP),RUIDOS ABSURDOS (a new band), S .P.CAOS, and KAOS 64 . All of them arethrash bands . And there are also punkbands, like COLERA, FOGO CRUZADO,NEO SISTEMA, and INOCENTES (back withonly 2 original members and a differentsound from their EP) . If there are anyother bands, not even the punks knowabout them. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmma

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In a town 70 m rom ao •au a, uqu :tiba,there is one band called DESGRACADOS, a3-piece who play thrash with an earlyDISCHARGE/RIISTETYT influence . Theyhave problems practicing, because one ofthe guys lives 35km from the others . InSantos, a seaside town near S .P ., thepunk/HC scene is growing . There are fewpunx, but all of them are sociallyconscious . The only band is PESADELO,whose sound is total noise, in the realsense of the term . Their lyrics deal withsocial and political realities.RIO DE JANEIRO-The scene here isdivided between the punks from thesuburbs

and

the

punks/newwavers/skaters

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downtown .

Thesuburban bands are : PRO-ANARQUISTAS,DESCARGA SUBUjtBANA, ULTIMATO,REALIDADE NEGRA, and DESORDEIROS.The suburban punks from R .J . created the"Suburj" (also a name of a suburb), apunk union congregating bands andfollowers . They are socially aware too, andput out the Vitoria Punk zine . Fromdowntown comes the most famous band fromRio, COQUETEL MOLOTOV . Their lyricsare very good, but their sound isdecaying . Other bands are : DESCONTROLE(a female band), DESESPERO,INDESCENTES, BOMBA ATOMICA, ROLETARUSSA, and ENJEITADOS.BRASILIA-This is the center of theso-called "neo-punks", with bands thatplay traditional punk rock, in spite of thename . They have taken part in gigs inS .P . and R .J ., and are quite well-known:PLEBE RUDE, LEGIAO URBANA, CAPITALINICIAL, and ELITE SOFISTICADA . Thereare also several new bands in Brasilianow, such as ANTI-TEDIO, SUBDIVISAO,APOCALIXO, and MANTENHA DISTINCIA.The last 4 have a more modern HC style.The possibilities for the growth ofBrasilia's punk scene are very good .

BAHIA-There are a lot o bands inSalvador City : MANICOMIO, VELORIUM,TREM FANTASMA, DELIRIUM TREMENS,t .D .F .S ., ESPIRITO DE PORCO,GESTAPO, and others . Some of them playin the old '77 style, but are very loud.The greatest problem for them are theheavy metal rockers and their violence.They put out some zines, the most politicalof which is Espunk.In other regions of Brazil there are morebands, but in such places the scene isjust beginning and information is scanty.They don't seem to know about modernHC, though this seems unbelievable . Somepunks from S .P. are sending zines,letters, tapes, and records to these placesso they can get in touch with the nwerthings in the punk/HC world . These bandsare : CAMBIO NEGRO (Recife), PODRES(Belem),

FERIDA

EXPOSTA

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EXPLICITO and DIVERGENCIASOCIALISTA (Belo Horizonte), andN .D .S ., PATRULHA 666, and SUICIDIO(Juiz de Fora).Well, this is the panorama of the Brazilianpunk scene, and if anyone wishes moreinformation, write me . I've released a"special edition" of my zine--an Englishlanguage version for export about ourbands . Send me $2, and it will be sent toyou . To get Brazilian records and tapes,RATOS DE PORAO or OLHO SECO info,write to : Fabio/ Cx Postal 20014/ CEP02798/ Sao Paulo/ Brazil . To get info onRUIDOS ABSURDOS and other bands,write me : Alerta Punk/ c/o Renato Filho/Cx Postal 54217/ CEP 01296/ Sao Paulo/Brazil.P .S . Some bands from Sao Paulo (OLHOSECO, RATOS DE PORAO, RUIDOSABSURDOS) are interested in doing a tourof the U .S . and Europe, but they needhelp from interested punks . If you canhelp, please get in contact . That's all fornow .

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Hi folks! Here's another scene report fromOz! Things have sort of heated up here.DEPRESSION have finally released theirMoney Chain EP, on a new indie label,Reactor Records . It's become a hit--#2 onone paper's charts, #15 on the indie Top20, and even up to #10 on a local TVshow . They now have plans to record an8-track 7", which should be good . Localthrash outfit CIVIL DISSIDENT have alsoreleased a 12-track tape called 14th RateAmerican Thrash, plus a fanzine . It'sreally great, and its all sold out' Alas,anarcho- punk band END RESULT playedtheir last gig . Luckily, they released atape jusy before splitting, and its anothersmash hit, #15 on the indie tape charts!BODIES, from out- of-town Geelong, areanother contender in the hardcore stakes,and are now using the singer of a "hereone day-gone the other" KILLINGJOKE-type band, the JAll SLUTS . Out ofthe ashes of an old band, POLIT BURO,VICIOUS CIRCLE have risen . Other newbands are the PSYCHOTIC MANIACS,MURDER MURDER SUICIDE, I SPIT ONYOUR GRAVY (media superstars! ), andothers . Long-running celebrities the MESSare now called WAR CRIMES, and featureBuddha, bassist for ' the old Oi band,JUSTIFIED HATRED . Another band thathasn't gigged yet, but is supposed to begreat, is PERMANENT DAMAGE .

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MDC-TAKE YOUR BAND TO EUROPE

The purpose of this article is to giveinformation on

ow to take your band to/Europe and to relate some of our

'0experiences during our recent tour there.

It is possible to go and it costs money,but many people are eager to help out with

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such a tour . A good start would be tosend your record or cassette to all thefanzines, scene reporters, etc ., listed inMRR, and to European bands you enjoy.(At the end of this article we'll include a

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list of some the people in various countriesthat helped us out) . Do this months aheadof time, include a promo pack withpictures, bio, info, reviews, etc . Explain

(what you need and expect in the way ofequipment, money, food, and shelter . Forexample, we needed a P .A ., drums,speaker bottoms, about $300 a gig (though

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we more often made $200 or $100), avegetarian meal, and a place to stay foreach event . We took our own guitars andamp heads for "our sound", but remember:the more you take, the more you gottacarry and get through each individual

/country's Customs with./Crossing borders can be tricky . First, a

passport costs $40 and needs to be applied

' for 4 weeks in advance . Figure you ' ll need/$600-$1000 per person for round-trip

tickets, and you'll need them (the tickets)

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to "get in" to certain countries. I fpossible, ask hosts to acquire working

/papers and inquire what it takes to workn their country . England is the tougheston this . We could not get in last tour . TheCustoms people knew in minutes exactly

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letters, so be prepared to feel violated.Carry your contacts, phone numbers,etc ., and then reacquire your tourschedule once inside the country . Gettingworking papers can be difficult if you

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(with you . (CRUCIFIX had no problemswithout working papers) . While talkingwith different border officials, we werepolite, plainly dressed, and wearing hatsover our various hair styles . We tried tocome off as middle class kids visitingEurope for a short stay . It worked outpretty well, with the exception of England,

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(cancelled . We missed all our British gigswith CRUCIFIX, ANTISECT, and D .I .R .T.

(Live and learn).(On the continent however, things went

much more smoothly . B .G .K . (BALTHASRA

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GERARDS KOMMANDO), with their friendsin Amsterdam, raised money together to

(cover one-way plane fares and severalother expenses for M .D .C . This was a bigexpense ($2,800), and we as a groupquestioned the value of such a trip . Welearned that we could work off the debt by

(doing 10 gigs in Holland, Belgium,(Germany, and Denmark . We ended upstaying 3 months and playing 35 events,

0 including Italy and Spain . With theexception of 4 dates, we played squats

((vacant, illegally occupied houses) and(anarchy youth centers during the entire

tour . We were fortunate to meet and dealthe frontline olitical eo le and thus

truly concerned with youth and rebellio Groningen, I met a real liveswastika-tattooed Nazi who hated "ChickenSquawk" . He was a butcher and told me hewas "used to seeing the blood run" . Hethought the Aryan peoples would soon runthe world . I tried reasoning with him, andafter he told me he didn't think I was sobad, I told him I was a Jewish,Communist, homosexual . (He had about asmuch of a sense of humor as he hadbrains) .

"I

Ain't

No

Nazi's

Friend".(DICKS).Antwerpen, Belgium was a cold, lonelyMonday, but we got to see ZYKLOME (,4)and MORAL DEMOLITION, both basic rawthrash bands with great songs like " We AllHate Cops" and "Police State" . They havea joint EP out called Repression (PunkEtc/ Mottestr 12/ 1870 Wolvertem/Belgium) . In Belgium, by the way, youmust carry passport papers at 'all times onyou, or you go to jail . And being a punkis reason enough to be stopped . Punksthere really hate the police repression.(Hello to our friend Luke).The next night we played Ulthorn, asuburb of A'dam, where I finally got towitness B .G .K .'s entire set . Wow! Theyare the best we saw on the whole tour.Formerly the NITWITZ (from '77), theychanged vocalists and have worked as atight yet ripping unit for the past 2years . My favorite tunes are "Prey ForPeace And Kill For Christ", "SoylentGreen", "Vivisection " , and "Allegiance ToNo One".

not with the agency/promoter/disco ownertypes who are more concerned with makinga buck or hiring goon-like bully bouncersand unsuitable support acts . We gainedinsights to individual, as well asinternational, problems, such as policeharassment

(very

prevalent),job/housing/squat situations, pollutionproblems (the Mediterranean is polluted,statues are melting in Venice, and theBlack Forest in Germany is dying), thedraft, anti-nuke/women/peace activities (allvery active compared to America).

J

HOLLANDOur first gig was at Wyers squat (an oldabandoned textile mill), which housed 125people (R .I .P 2/12/84), served as a usedclothing store, late night snack bar, beerlounge, cocktail bar, restaurant, concerthall, and art gallery . The reality of peopleworking to make an alternativeco-operative happen out of energy andresourcefelness, without paying rent ortaxes, should provide inspiration to thehomeless everywhere . The catalyst for thewhole tour was a big, last party/rally atWyers, because of the planned eviction ofthe squatters . This was to make way forA'dams newest luxury hotel, a Holiday Innfor 1984 . We had a great time, 600 peoplecame out to see PANDEMONIUM andM .D .C . on Dec . 17th . High spirits and thepower of a loving, united community setthe tone for that special night.PANDEMONIUM, a 3- piece in the style ofGANG GREEN, really ripped through theirset (look for their 7"EP, Who The FuckAre You?) . We really enjoyed seeing punx,skins, longhairs, and squatters alltogether fun-styling it for serious reasons." What We Want Is Free" (A .O .F .) comes tomind.Groningen, Ulthorn, Hengelo, Venlo, andSteinwyck, Holland . . .and Antwerpen,Belgium (Dec . 19-26) : some punks had ahard time digesting us without leatherjackets, studs, or spiked hair, and theirconceptions of what punk ought to lookand sound like, but generally half-waythrough our sets people got into it . In

. K . ' s Tony Nitwit'

Hengelo on XMas Eve was quiet ; in Venlowe played with STEPHORSTER CHAOTENALLIANCE (also the name of a strictreligious cult located in Southern Holland).They are also tight and fast .They told uswe were right near the multi-nationalcompany town of Phillips . Those Phillipsstereos might sound good, but during theNazi occupation of Holland during WWII,Phillips printed brochures encouraging thepeople to co-operate with the Nazis, andthey currently design and manufactureradar and missile-guidance systems for thewar machine . "Business On Parade"(M .D .C .) . Our set began the same time asa fight in the back of the hall . We stoppedto check it out-- Dutch skins vs . Germanpunks . Two Germans got stabbed, thefight got broken up, skins were holdingclubs

and

knives,

the police came,ambulances took away the wounded, thingscooled out, and we started again byannouncing that "people with hearts, usingtheir heads, are who we appreciated " . It 00was tough to continue, but we did . It'sDecember 25th ; Merr Christmas.iiiiii~iiiii

TOURING THE SQUATS

and ANARCHY CENTERS

I.

Next night, Steinwyck, a picturesque

0

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0 community, so pretty its almost unreal . Wewondered if there were any punx out0 there, but sure enough the place waspacked on what they call Second Xmas.The vibes were great . From Adam cameLOCAL DISTURBANCE with a lead snger

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that wouldn't quit . The group is veryenergetic and the singer Robert's eyes bugout of his head while he's singing.("Paranoia" is the crowd favorite, and Iliked "Cancer") . These guys are among myunderground favorites from the wholetour.

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as they came and went to planned actionsthrough the night. (Spray pain and'broken multi- national windows) . Lastly,we played at the Ungdomshuset (Youth 0House) with the ANTI-DANCE BALLET.One of the best actions I've ever heard ofhappened in Kobenhavn . A dozen peopledressed up like Santa Claus on theSaturday before Xmas, went into storeswith big bags, filled them up, and cameback in the street and started handing outthe presents to people . Many werearrested, but the sight of policemenarr, ;ting Santa Claus in front of parentsand children right before the holiday madea great impression in the media.

GERMANY

0 We had some apprehension about playing

'our next date in Hannover. Last yearthere were many fights . We only were able

0to play a few songs . That time, the skins

0were the cause, and we heard that thistime around they wanted to stir up more

'trouble (with us) . Surprise! When we got

00

there, things were really cool . It was welladvertized and there were people fromGermany, Italy and Switzerland . Oldfriends like Louie of NAPALM, Winnie from

0Berlin and a Polish friend, Marek, were all

00

there .

An

Italian band named

theWRETCHED played first.I was having a great time meeting peoplewhen I felt a tap on my shoulder . I turned

0 around to see a husky skin with a few big

'

skinhead friends whom I recognized fromthe year before! He called me a "bastard,"

0staring at me hard . He then declared

0

0himself a bastard as well, and broke into alaugh with his buddies . He went on to tellme that he gave up fascism and likes to"have a good time these days ." Right on!

0On "Chaos Day" in Hannover last year,

0

00

the punx and skins got together and made,

international

headlines .

There

will

beanother "International Chaos Day " onSaturday, August 4th, 1984 . Everyone isinvited, and more info on the event will befnrthrnming thrnuoh MRR .

DENMARK"Beautiful, beautiful Kobenhavn, wintrygreen of the Baltic Sea ." We played 3times in 4 days here, the first at the mainrock venue for out-of-town acts . Weplayed with CITY X, a fine Danish bandwith slower-paced music . They did anhour-long set and were well- appreciated.B .G .K . then got up and ripped throughtheirs.

That night we stayed at the Reisdalesquat, one of the most spirited houses I'veever experienced . Most of these people hadbeen in the house Ole Petersen wroteabout in MRR #5 ; they dug a tunnel outthat house as a preparatory escape routefrom the police . They have battles withthe police when they are being evicted,hoping public opinion will put pressure onthe police to cool off and let theoccupation continue until it becomes clearexactly when and how an unused buildingwill be renovated.

The squatters have been fighting a heroicbut losing battle . Many evictions havehappened this year, and with the newlyre-elected Konservative government, thingsdon't look like they'll get much better(their current Prime Mnister was involvedwith fascist yough parties in the 1930'sand 40's) . Folks wonder how long they canhold the squats they have, and even thepeople of Christiania, the 1000+ personsquat that has been operating over 11years, wonder if the government will makea move against them.We played the Reisdale squat for New

ITALYWe next traveled to Italy . a very toughcountry--

no

food

stamps,

nounemployment insurance, no socialsecurity, and very few jobs . People gethassled or arrested frequently, then aredetained for undetermined amounts of time.There was a big crackdown in '77 afterdemonstrations against the government,and thousands of people are still beingheld in over-crowded prisons as a result.

The first night in Milano we played Virus,a stoic 4-story squat with a court-yard,terrace and ballroom. A real welcomecarpet was laid out for us . Marco was ourcontact there, and he helped us verymuch . We laid out the art for the "ChickenSquawk/Millions of Dead Children"recording project in Fabio's bedroom atVirus.In Italia we also played Torino, Bolognaand Terrara, where we got to seeCONTRAZIONE, NEGAZIONE,CONTROPOTERE, KALLELLIVO, PEGGIO

IMPACT, and CHEETAH CHROMEMOTHERFUCKERS (who are coming toPUNX,

'America this summer) . We got to meet andinterview

R .A .F .

PUNK,

ananarchist-peace

band

that coordinatesshows

and

distributes

records

andfanzines. Italy is poor, and you won't'make big money, but the punx there arereally warm . To miss this country wouldbe a true shame. (There were some radskaters in Italy . plus lots of D .R .I . fans) .

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EIL.7kIUM111Lw,11111ww wwwwwwwbooked and records distrubted by oneparty . We got to play with KANGRENA,ULTIMO RESORTE (great!), and theFOURTH REICH . Everyone was helpful,though we were virtually unheard of(except for Javier and Penetracion zine),and we were able to make ends meet andhave a great time.

of Piratas Records, so you can get gigs BRIGADE, 7 SECONDS, D .O.A ., POISONIDEA, ARTICLES OF FAITH, D .R .I ., andTOXIC REASONS) . CRUCIFIX, who were'just in Holland and England, made a bigimpression, and so can your band.Extra special thanx to B .G.K ., Wauter, 0NO PIGS, THE LAST FEW, Lene and theUngdomshuset in Copenhagen, AnarchyYouth Houses in Holland, the Korn House'in Hannover, Germany. The followingpeople were very helpful to us in/arranging our play dates (most will be 'more motivated to help with politicallyconscious bands):

11M..nwwwwwwwwwwwENGLAND-country phone code : 44London100 Club/ Ron Leslie/ 1-3 148-2923

after 9PM/ 1-992-7198430

HOLLAND-country phone code : 31AmsterdamWauter/ Gerand Terborg 32/ A'dam 107 ITN

20-764107Tony Nitwit! Nekelveld 2/ Adam 1012SN

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BACK TO BERLINWe drove on to Berlin, where we playedthe Kukuck squat with PORNO PATROL,THE PEST, and BETON COMBO . It was acold night on the 4th floor of anabandoned warehouse, but it was packed.Halfway through our set, about 8policemen came in and took the stage . Thecrowd threw beer and shouted until thepolice just left . It was really somethingwatching the police back down . We werewaiting

for

them

to

return

withreinforcements, but they never did.

Our second gig was at a tiny squat-- acinema

called

Frontkino ;

with

theBOSKOPS,

Osethe best German band that I / Artsi/ c/o A

.S .D ./ Nansensgade 143/ 1366Berlin is a political island, part of a cold

Copenhagen Kwar nation with a lot of instability andparanoia . Activists have alot going, but

GERMANY-country phone code : 49the police and legal system are very harsh

Freibergon those caught, some demonstrators

A To Z Squat/ Michael/ 7-612-5592paying with years of their lives for ' Bremenspeaking their minds on peace and nuclear

Ali/ Kulture Group Haus/ 04-21-353075power issues .

'

or 04-21-702407In Freiburg, we played A To Z squat for 2

Berlinnights with the raw-edged sound of David of SICK PLEASURE/ Kukuck SquatHAWAII FIVE-O from Munchen . The night 30 2163770was the eve of a big demo protesting the

Hannoverarrests of various activists being held in / Kornstrasse/ 011i/ 511-704049jail for up to a year without trial . Here, A

or Eddie or Peteny 511-200934as in Berlin, radical young Germans have / Bielefeld/ Andreas/ 521-200934a very difficult time.Good 01 Bremen . Alli, a wonderful woman, 'sought us out in A'dam and hooked us up.Here we played to a totally sloshed, / ITALY-country code : 39pissing- on-each-other type of crowd . We

0Milan

dealt with several personal assaults from Marco Medici/ 2-404-3832persons who became our fast friends once

or 2 491-048

the frenzy of the performance had passed .

(can do all of Italy)Bologna

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TorinoEuropeans wonder if U .S . life is really like' Mara of CONTRACIONE/ 11-876488"Dallas" or Disneyland, and if we are all / Pisarich . They wonder if our people are as

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for our government, . but many want toSPAIN-country hone code : 347/ 8-f5Bw-lio 1984 EN

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of impost . . .mTHE KKK IS NO JOKE FROM THE PAST .

yAS THIS CLIPPING DEMONSTRATES,"WHITE POWER" IS ALIVE AND SICK INAMERIKKKA . DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKEOF UNDERESTIMATING THE POTENTIALTHREAT TO HUMAN RIGHTS FROM THEKLAN AND AMERICAN NAZIS, OR FROMTHEIR OVERSEAS COUNTERPARTS IN THENATIONAL

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raPARTIES . NAZI PUNKS AND N .F . SKINSARE NOT INNOCUOUS, AND THEIRVIOLENCE WILL ONLY GROW IF PEOPLEALLOW THEMSELVES TO SUCCUMB TOINTIMIDATION . THE THUGS DIDN'T 'JUSTGO AWAY' IN THE 1930'S, AND

Winston-Salem, N .C.An all-white jury acquit-

ted six Ku Klux Klansmen andhree American Nazi Partyembers yesterday of civil

rights violations in the killingal five members of the Corn-inunisl Workers Party and theWounding of seven others in1879.

"Praise the Lord," said Jack W.ter Jr ., an ex-Nazi Party mem-

from Winston-Salem, whogged his wife after the verdict

as announced In federal courtbout 5'.10 p .m Other defendantsept, and one, Roland Wayneood, also an ex-party member,elt on the courtroom carpet.

The case concerned a gunbattleon a public street involving Klans-men, Nazi party members and mem-bers of the Communist WorkersParty . It has attracted national at-tention in the 4'r years since theshootings, in part because video-tapes of the event made by televi-

slon news crews appear to s owKlansmen and Nazi members methodically firing at Communist dem-onstrators and others on a Greens-boro public street.

By the end of that trial, pressaccounts had also revealed the pres-ence of two government agents Inthe ranks pf Klan and Nazis.

Another - question left unan-swered at that trial was why therewere no uniformed police on thescene when shooting broke out.

Pitts said under the laws cited10 the charges, the government hadthe burden of proving the defen-dants were motivated by racial ha-tred in the shootings of the fourWhite men and one black woman . Atthe trial, the defendants had soughtto prove they were motivated byanti-commubism and patriotism.'Dale Sampson, 35 years old, theW idow of William Sampson, whWas shot to death at the Nov . 3, 1979rally, also wept. This is a reago-ahead for the Klan and Nazisyill people,' she said.

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3000demonstrators, plainclothes "tails" on allkriown anti-Klan activists, selectivesearches of demonstrators, and amidnight raid on a punk anti-Klanbenefit.

In

Meriden,

Connecticut,

thenewspapers called April 29 "a peacefulday ." There were roadblocks atinterstate highway exits, pat searchesof everyone entering the vicinity ofTown Hall, (occupied by the KKK), andpolice dogs on chains snarling atdemonstrators.

Rocks, bottles, and sections ofpavement pried up from the streetclobbered Klan cars in Austin, Texas,in February 1983 . The police retaliatedby beating and clubbing demonstrators,who included the Black community,anti-Klan activists, students and 200punks.

Los Angeles, December 3, 1984.L .A . Police and Fire departments allowthe KKK to burn three 20-foot crossesin a Black neighborhood ; bypre-arrangement, California KKK chiefTom Metzger and other Klan leaderssubmit to misdemeanor arrests aftercompleting their ceremony.

Amerikkka, 1984 . Never before hasso much police power been mobilized to

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protect t e a .ility of fascists to marchand rally in the streets . John BrownAnti- Klan Committee, a nationalorganization with chapters in eightcities, is working to build a movementagainst the Klan . The first time JohnBrown demonstrated against the Klan inWilmington, Vermont, demonstrators gotwithin 25 feet of the Klansmen . A yearlater, in New Britain, Connecticut, theKlan was high in the bleachers on thefar side of a football stadium, separatedfrom demonstrators by 450 cops . In1983, we saw perhaps 200 robedKlansmen -- and more than 3000 copsprotecting them. Every time themovement goes out to oppose the Klan,it confronts the military face of theU .S . government . In 1984, as in 1874,the government needs the KKK todefend white supremacy and the systemof U .S . imperialism.

NS News, a Houston Nazi newspaper,reports on the Austin demonstration inits Issue #11 : NS News staff . ..observed many punks . There wereAustin punks from clubs such as ClubFoot and the Ritz and there were atleast six Island punks who came tomarch against the Klan," (The Island isa Houston club . Apparently the Nazisobserve

punks

with

pinpointidentification in mind .)

Two days before the Houston march,the Criminal Intelligence Division of theHouston Police raided a benefit for theJohn Brown Committee at the Island.Several undercover police in the clubwere dressed as punks . Eleven peoplewere arrested.

KLAN WOOS PUNKS WITH BEERBut the Klan doesn't see punks as

inevitable enemies . At a parking lot gigplayed in Austin, Alschvitz remembersbeing passed a Budweiser marked,"This beer from the Ku Klux Klan ."

"I just looked at the guy . I said,'Well, this beer don't taste too good, sowhy don't you just take it back?"MDC ' s vocalist, Dave, " got real pissed.They were passing out some literature.And Dave just burned it right there ."

Drummer Alschvitz of the hardcoreband MDC was one of thedemonstrators . "There were about 40Klansmen and a big circle of policearound them with riot gear andshields, " he recalled.

Originally an Austin band, nowbased in San Francisco, MDC's memberswere all there . "We were playing downthere . It was just that part of a tourthat made it work out so we couldcheck this out," Alschvitz ex .lained .

TEXAS COPS SHIELD KLAN"Police were heavily heavily

protecting" the Klan ; demonstrators"really did want to hurt these people.

"People walked with them and spit atthem and cursed them and threw thingsat them . At the very end when theystarted getting in their cars, everybodywas getting a little pissed off andstarted throwing . . .rocks -- a wholebunch of stuff -- at them and theirvehicles, and they turned tail and 'gotout of Dodge' as fast as they could.

"I think the bottom line of it is theKu Klux Klan are not welcome in avisible sense in Austin, Texas."

By April, when over 2000 peoplecame out to oppose the Klan inHouston, police had already digestedthe lessons of Austin . With photos andvideotapes of anti-Klan activists, policearrested

John

Brown

Anti

KlanCommittee (JBAKC) members evenbefore they reached the demonstration.(One was charged with "interrupting apolice

officer"

for

answering

aquestion .)

The Klan completed an 18-minutemarch at a near-run, flanked by 175cops in riot gear . One look and thecrowd began to chant : "Cops and theKlan go hand in hand!"

When punks join anti-Klan actionsthe Klan doesn't like it . But the samearticle in NS News makes it clear thatthe real threat to white power inAmerica is the Black and Mexicanrevolutionary "groups determined totake Texas from white Americans andhand it to the Mexican and Blackminorities ." Today, as always, the KKKaims at destroying the liberationmovements of New Afrikan (Black),Mexican, Puerto Rican, and NativeAmerican peoples . But the Klan alsounderstands the importance of youth inthe political and cultural life of anynation . As the Nazis had their "HitlerYouth," so the KKK has its "KlanYouth Corps ." White teenagers and kidsas young as nine train with adults inthe KKK paramilitary, camps around thecountry . California Klan leader TomMetzger has built close ties with theWhite Student Union, a racist youthgroup in Sacramento.

Yet some punks -- who may opposethe KKK in principle -- are apathetic.They say they don't want the musicscene to be "too political ." But ifprogressive white people don't deal withthe fact that fascism is being built, howare we different from the "GoodGermans" of the Nazi era?

. •

••

Some progressive hardcore bandshave opposed the KKK as well asspeaking out against Nazi punk . InNovember, the DEAD KENNEDYS, theCONTRACTIONS, and DRI played abenefit at San Francisco's On Broadwayclub for the JBAKC.

Hopefully, this article will increaseawareness of the dangerous growth ofthe KKK and encourage more people tobe active in the movement aginst it.

ROOTS OF THE KLANThe Klan arose after the Civil War to

smash the freedom struggle of Blackpeople . In 1865, the issue in the BlackBelt South was land and political power.Blacks were over 50% of the population-- and 60-70% in many areas ; at thewar's end, Blacks began buildingschools, running for office in theReconstruciton government, and takingover the plantations where, in 250years of slavery, their labor hadcreated the economic power in worldmarkets that tobacco, sugar, and cottonsecured for the United States.

If Northern business interests andthe U .S . government were going tocontrol the south (which they hadfought the Civil War for), they had toget rid of Black Reconstruction.

THE KLAN IS THE PLANNashville played host to the Klan's

founding in April, 1867 . The Klan wasinstigated by the wealthy planters andmilitary

aristocrats -- high-rankingConfederate

officers

trained

atAnnapolis and West Point . Blackhistorian Lerone Bennett outlines "theplan" that came out of that meeting:reduce Blacks "to political impotence.How? . . . . By political use of terror,by the braining of the baby in themother's arms, the slaying of thehusband at the wife's feet, the rapingof the wife before her husband's eyes.

"Soon the South was honey-combedwith secret organizations : the Knightsof the White Camelia, the Red Shirts,the White League, Mother's LittleHelpers, and the Baseball Club of theFirst Baptist Church ."

The goal was to push Blacks backtoward slavery . Reports Carl Schurz, awhite eyewitness : "Some planters heldback their former slaves on theirplantations by brute force . Armedbands of white men patrolled thecountry roads to drive back theNegroes wandering about . Dead bodiesof murdered Negroes were found on andnear the highways . .A veritablereign of terror prevailed ."

Sharecropping and chain gangs werethe new forms of colonialism for Blackpeople . Sharecroppers were indebtedbeyond the grave to the landownerswhose farms they had worked.Unemployment and vagrancy became"crimes" which led thousands of Blackmen to prison and chain gangs . Slaverywas ended, but the Black nation in theU .S . remained under the economic,political, and social domination of theU .S . government.

A CAPTIVE NATIONThe Klan was there to make sure

this state of semi-slavery was enforced.White robes and burning crossesreplaced the overseer's whip as themain symbols of white supremacist rule.Without the means to control their owndestiny, Black people remained acaptive nation.

By 1895, 10,000 Black people hadbeen murdered. This was action bymasses of whites . The Klan waseverywhere in the south . Two factorswere crucial to the Klan's growth andsuccess . First, from the beginning, theKI n

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Klan Railwhites : the personal privileges overBlacks that white supremacy conferredon them were the only superiority theycould claim . Blacks in Southern cities,reports Black historian W . E . B.DuBois, "were afraid to build decenthomes or dress well, or own carriages,bicycles or automobiles, because ofpossible retaliation on the part ofwhites ."

Second, and equally crucial to theKlan's ascendancy, is U .S . governmentsupport . The Klan after the Civil Warwere the "hit men" for the DemocraticParty, the party of slavery and whitesupremacy . In the 20th century, notsurprisingly, the government's variousmilitary agencies -- police, prisonguards, armed forces, FBI -- have hada history of close ties to the KKK.

By the turn of the century, theKlan function of enforcing the colonialcontrol of Black people had been largelyreplaced by the prison system andmodern police forces . But the Klannever died out.

KLAN UPSURGE IN THE 20'sIn the 1920's, the Klan began to

grow tremendously in the North.Millions of Black people, forced- out ofsharecropping by mechanized farming,migrated north to the cities where slumsand mob violence made it clear thatwhite supremacy was the American --not just the Southern -- way of life.

It was in the 1920's that the KKKbegan to promote anti-communism in amajor way . It attacked immigrants andclaimed it was defending the Americanway of life . In 1924, 40,000 Klansmenmarched in Washington, D .C.

The third upsurge in Klan activityin the U .S . took place in the 50's.RIGHTS MOVEMENT CONFRONTS KLAN

In the 1950's, Black organizationsbegan fighting segregation, which wassanctioned by law or custom in 21states.

In December, 1955, Blacks inMontgomery, Alabama, began boycottingsegregated city buses . Soon, Blackstudents were sitting- in at white-onlylunch counters and swimming pools, anddemanding entrance to white schools.The Klan, "white citizens councils," andracist police were forced out into theopen, clubbing Black demonstrators onnetwork T .V . news.

Years later, FBI collaboration withthe Klan in opposing the Civil RightsMovement was finally documented.Beginning in 1964, the FBI startedcreating Klan chapters completely under

':December 3, 1983, 1 .os Angeles . Californi

in LAworked his way into military leadershipof the Klan and the "Klan Bureau ofInvestigation ." With FBI approval, Roweparticipated in the bombing of aBirmingham, Alabagla church whichkilled four Black school children, andthe murder of civil rights worker ViolaLiuzzo.

The Civil Rights Movement wasfollowed by the Black Power movement.Black leader Malcolm X's call forfreedom "by any means necessary"alerted whites to the fact that Blackpeople, like the Vietnamese, werewilling to fight for independence andfreedom . Organizations like the BlackPanther Party organized masses ofBlack people for self- defense,self-determination, and total nationalliberation.

In the North, police violence andmurder of Black people, historianHoward Zinn concludes, was therecurring cause of the urban rellionsthat

swept

the

country

in

themid-sixties :

in

Florida, . Cleveland,Harlem,

Rochester .

Jersey

City,Chicago, Philidelphia . "In August,1965 . . .the Black ghetto of Watts, LosAngeles, erupted in the most violenturban outbreak since World War II . Itwas set off by the forcible arrest of ayoung Negro driver, the clubbing of abystander by police, the seizure of ayoung Black woman falsely accused ofspitting on the police. There wasrioting in the streets, looting andfirebombing of stores . Police andNational Guardsment were called in;they used their guns. Thirty- fourpeople were killed, most of themBlack ."

The Civil rights and Black powermovements had a profound effect onwhite people . Racism became a dirtyword, the Klan lost infuence . Manywhite people began to challenge thelegitamcy of the U .S . government andto fight for revolution.

The Vietnamese victory had sentU .S . world domination reeling : revolt athome had to be crushed, particularlywith the economy in the '70's decliningand Black people in the U .S . fightingagainst colonialism, poverty and policebrutality.

The U .S . government reacted withframeups and prison for Black activists.The FBI's massive counter-insurgencyprogram -- code name : COINTELPRO --aimed at imprisoning thousands of Blackpolitical activists by pinning unsolvedcrimes on them. Leaders such asalcolm X Martin

.

charismatic Chicago Black Pantherleader Fred Hampton were assassinatedby snipers or in police raids on theirhomes . With dragnets and road blocks,police hunted down Black LiberationArmy members . Tanks and SWAT teamswere used to attack Republic of NewAfrika headquarters in Mississippi,when Black nationalists were building astruggle for an independent Blackstate .

Through

forged

letters,provacateurs, and "dirty tricks,"COINTELPRO fomented splits in Blackgroups and tried to separate Blackleaders from the Black community andwhite support.

LIBERATION MOVEMENTS RE-EMERGEToday

in

the

1980's

withanti-revolutionary wars in El Salvadorand Nicaragua,

the U .S . tries toforestall the full impact of economic,political and social crisis . ButU .S .-sponsored torture, assassination,dictatorship and fascism from Lebanonto Central America also producerevolutionaries around the world with acommitment and strategy to win . ForBlack people in the U .S ., things havenot improved . The poverty level now ishigher than it was in 1967.Unemployment and infant mortality aretwice as high for Black people as forwhite people.

Revolutionar movements for national

liberation and self-determination insidethe U .S . were wounded byCOINTELPRO but survived . Now in the'80's genocide is not just trigger happycops and the Klansmens's noose . It isskyrocketing

unemployment,

socialservice cutbacks, prison anasterilization . No amount of repressioncan stop resistance to these attacks onBlack people's right to survive . Incities like Miami and Washington, D .C .,Black people have violently rebelledagainst police terror and the KKK.Today Black revolutionary groups suchas the Republic of New Afrika continueto build a struggle for human rights,land and national independence.

The Puerto Rican independencemovement is fighting a widening guerillastruggle in Puerto Rico and throughoutthe states . Native Americans andMexicans on both sides of the U .S.imposed border continue to fight for thereturn of stolen lands. Thesemovements and the movement ofprogressive whites threaten the U .S.empire from within . And these struggleswill only heighten as the empire strikesback with the CIA, FBI, military,police . . .and the Klan, the AmericanNazis, the Moral Majority : these are thereactionary

elements

dedicated

todefending the U .S . system. WhenJBAKC members researched andobserved the development of the Klanand other fascist forces around thecountry, we saw that the U .S . andstate governments have been integrallyinvolved in building a rightwing armedmovement based on white supremacy.

So, we expect that, as the U .S.escalates its war drive in CentralAmerica and the Middle East, the Klanwill be here to organize the pro-warparades . . .because the Klan will have,in fact, have been organizing foryears . Recently, KKK thugs attacked awoman's anti-nuclear rally on the EastCoast.

Fascism is not just more cops,dentity cards, phone taps - BigBrother . Fascism means popular supportfor a police state, and this is what isbeing built by the war fever led byReagan and echoed by the Klan in smalltowns and big cities across America.

We look into the not-too-distantfuture and see more anti-wardemonstrations (for instance) broken upnot only by police butby armed KKKthugs who attack and run . We look atthe worsening conditions of Black andthird World people in the U .S. -- highunemployment, overcrowded decayinghousing, health care worthless (ordeadly! ), and we realize that there willbe resistance. When urban rebellions

again rock this country in protest anddefiance of these gehocidal conditions,the Klan will provide the sniper fire toterrorize rebellious communities intosubmission . These kinds of fascistattacks are standard throughout theworld -- the death squads in Salvadorare typical.

The Klan predicts "race war," andin secret camps in eleven states theKlan is training members and theirchildren in the use of automaticweapons, explosives, and terrortechniques.

The key to the Klan's appeal iswhite supremacy . The Klan has neverhad trouble finding members, friends,supporters . In 1983 when CaliforniaGrand Dragon Tom Metzger ran forsenator, running as a racist, he got80,000 votes . Recently aMetzger-initiated Klan front group -White American Resistance - set upracist telephone hotlines in five cities inCalifornia . Metzger and other Klanleaders are uniting their forces.

At their Decemebr 3 "Unity Rally" inLos Angeles, three crosses were burnedin a Black neighborhood.

The KKK is on the move . It's timefor progrssive white people to take anactive stand against it and make it clearthat the Klan doesn't speak for us!

The

John

Brown

Anti-KlanCoommittee is part .of building amovement to fight the KKK (and allwhite supremacy) and support the NewAfrikan (Black) Liberation Movement.John Brown publishes a nationalnewspaper and does educational work,but is primarily an activist organizationworking in eight cities . In Californialast October, for example, JBAKCdemonstrated against Tom Metzger andWhite Student Union leader GregWithrow at a Sacramento TV station.Later, some of the demonstrators wentin the studio and disrupted theirappearance on a live TV interview . Lastyear Bay Area JBAKC conducted acampaign against the "Cowboys," aKKK-type group inside the Richmond,Californiapolice department.

Right now in California JBAKC isbuilding a statewide campaign againstTom Metzger and his California KKK.For more information on currentactivities, you can call (415) 561-9040(San Francisco) or (.212)989-8898(N .Y .) or write to JBAKC, P .O . Box406, Peter Stuyvesant Station, NewYork, NY 10009 .

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Poppy rock-cum-punk . Sometimes it clicks well, as in thegreat garage punk title track, but more often it leans too muchtowards commerciality . It'll be interesting to see which directionthey move in . (TY)(1620 Ashby--Berkeley, CA 94703)

"Bad trip" music in a noise/psych/jazzy vein, designed toput you in a very unpleasant mood . If you were already therein the first place, put CHOIR OF PAIN on and you won't feelalone anymore . (TV)($2 .50 .to the Farm--P .O . Box 95123--Seattle, WA 98105)

D .D .T . - "Fury and Sin" 12" EP

D .D.T.'s debut EP proved their musical and lyricaloriginality, but they've further confirmed their abilities on thisfine record . "Purity" and "People are People" rate as goodexamples of the spare, witty thrash which abounds here,although my favorite is their brilliantly satiric " Last Train toAthens," a clever reworking of the MONKEES hit that shouldhave New Wavers gaping in horror . Bravo! (SS)

(D .D .T .--P .O . Box 720341--Atlanta, GA 30358)

DEVIANTS - "In the Bathroom" cassette

A 6-song debut by a local band that contains at least oneformer member of INTENSIFIED CHAOS . The music is in theclassical punk style, with both English '78 influences and U .S.

surf sounds . It won't set the world on fire, but it's good cleanfun .(TY)(T . Tang--2428 Russell--Berkeley, CA 94705)

DR . KNOW - "Plug In Jesus" LP

Mystic describes these guys as a "hardcore speedmetal deathband," and I can't improve upon that summation much . DR.KNOW play fast thrash and semi-thrash with HM guitar leadsand depressing, horror- inspired lyrics . They're tight as adrum and undeniably powerful, though some of theaforementioned Metal parts are excruciating . In the L .A.STAINS tradition, but quite a bit better . (JB)(Ghetto Way--P .O . Box 1025--Hollywood, CA 90078)

DROOLING IDIOTS - " Who Needs Tomorrow? " cassette

This new DROOLING IDIOTS tape doesn't sound as melodicas their first thrash-oriented demo, and the production isn'tespecially hot . But their lyrical content has really come onstrong, with both "personal " and "political " themes that gobeneath the surface . (TV)

BYRDS-style neo-psychedelia--minus the 12-stringguitar--meets DUANE EDDYish twanginess . Despite the singer'ssometimes annoying vocals, there's interesting stuff on thishalf-sided picture disc, especially "Sniper on the Rooftop ."(TV)

N Highland--Hollywood, CA 90068)

Contrary to the claims of a crooked East Coast distributor,this is not an "official" DEAD KENNEDYS studio album . It is abootleg, recorded live off a radio broadcast in Munich, Germanyin December 1982 . The copies with the white cover have bettersound quality than the copies with the blue cover . Either way,buy at your own risk . (Jel)(MUlleimer)

DIE MIGRAINS - "Farewell to Arms & Legs" cassette

Hmm. This tape has sort of a LYDIA LUNCH, "No Wave "type of vocal quality and overall feel, combined with anamateurish CRAMPSish rock 'n' roll garage sound . Interesting

and enjoyable . (TV)($4 .70 to 515 So . Simms St .--Lakewood, CO 80228)

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It was hard to get past the overlong HM intro, but the restof this tape contains teenage garage thrash with exaggerated,high- pitched vocals and funny lyrics . The EPILEPTICS areobviously having a lot of fun here, even if they are a little onthe retardo side, so people with wacko senses of humor willprobably like them--except maybe Frank Discussion, who getsslagged off . (JB)($2 to S . Baldwell--13043 W . 69th--Scottsdale, AZ 85254)

Like label-mates CHOIR OF PAIN, EXTREME HATE make foruncomfortable listening--noise, distortion, the wrongspeed . . . . in other words, "pet rock" at its most annoying . Buyand die . (TY)($2 .50 to the Farm)

FANG - "Where the Wild Things Are" LP 0

There are two kinds of bands in this world--those thatappreciate any help which others offer, and those that whineand complain when others don't give them all the attention theythink they deserve . Unfortunately, FANG fall within the lattercategory, and it's a mighty test of my fairness to say anythinggood about the spoiled, self- centered babies . Even so, theiralbum contains the same humorous mixture of fastsemi-thrashers (like "Road Kills") and slower, droning numbers(like "Suck and Fuck"), so if you liked "Land Shark," you'll gofor this as well . (JB)(Boner--2146 Boner St .--Berkeley, CA 94702)

FEEDERZ - "Ever Feel Like Killing Your Boss?" LP

An audio version of the Situationist philosophy, whosemessage is "subversion can be fun ." And indeed it can, as thisalbum demonstrates . Musically, it's very diverse, combining fastsemi-thrashers with undistorted guitars (like " Imitation of Life"and "Subscription") with a variety of theatrical pieces (like theschizoid "Gut Rage" and the creepy "1984"), all marked byFrank Discussion's sneering vocals and sarcastic humor.Undeniably entertaining and provocative, arguably brilliant andrevelatory . A classic . (JB)(Flaming Banker--Suite 115, 3309} Mission St .--San Francisco,CA 94110)

FIENDS - "We've Come for Your Beer" LP

A very impressive potpourri of "redneck" rock, garage metala la STOOGES, punk, and parody makes this FIENDS debut amust- have . Instead of parroting the form of various genres ofrock 'n' roll, these guys manage to transmit its cocky,devil-may-care spirit . The guitars are loud and punky, and thedecadent humor that shines forth on jams like "Riot in theMen's Room," " Battle Axe," and "Rock All Night" simultaneouslypromotes and pokes fun at adolescent "drink- fight-fuck"fantasies . If you don't think they're a laugh a minute, youmust be one of the zombies on the cover . (JB)(Bemisbrain--P .O . Box 90901--Long Beach, CA 90809)

The FIVE have some interesting ideas in the post-punk vein.On this new EP, they produce one lengthy, rhythmic track withrather annoying repetitive vocals ("How Many Times"), anoffbeat cover version of MELANIE's "Angel of the Morning," anda cool psychedelic punkoid number with a faster tempo whichholds the most promise ( " Death Chord") . Worth a listen . (JB)(Five--P .O . Box 7558--Pittsburgh, PA 15213)

The recording quality here isn't so hot--it's like "live" fromthe garage--so I hesitate to judge this new thrash band . Theysay that there's a better-quality cassette to come, though.(TY)(M . Weisberg--6 Horizon Rd .--Ft . Lee, NJ 07024)

A live recording that mostly consists of long, extendedjam-type songs . They integrate jazz and funk rhythms into asort of cockeyed bluesy rock 'n' roll format . Although they ' vecome a long way from their charmingly psychotic teen-tortureyears, I personally wish they'd go back . Then again, most ofus "grow up " sometime, for better or worse . (TV)($ 14 to P .O . Box 143--Westminster, MD 21157)

LITTER - "Distortion " LP

This amazingly great 60's album has been reissued as abootleg, and its well worth seeking out . It's rare when a banddoes cover versions better than the originals (like the WHO's"Legal Matter," to name just one), and then manages to comeup with their own teen punk classics ("Action Woman") . One of

the best ever 60 ' s punk releases . (TY)(Warick ; no address)

LIVE SKULL - "Mr . Evil " 12" EP

A loud, abrasive post-punk group with pretentious lyricsand a unique, metal-edged guitar sound similar to--but not asextreme as--that of BIG BLACK . Most of LIVE SKULL's songsare measured, droning thangs (except for the faster "Boil"),but it's the distortion and controlled feedback emanating fromthe two guitars that really lift them above the pack . (JB)

(Massive--231 W . 29th St ., Suite 602--N .Y ., NY 10001)

LOVE CIRCUS - "Showbiz ' 12" EP

LOVE CIRCUS make more raw psychedelic noise on their firs12" effort, yet they generate neither notable songwriting nor apervading sense of atmosphere . Even though "Live Forever "

contains some pleasantly brooding instrumental touches, they ' re

usually more annoying than inspiring . (SS)(Broken--9229 Sunset Blvd ., Ste . 616--Los Angeles, CA 90096)

If you don't like this amazing slab of vinyl, don't evenpretend that you ever liked thrash punk . GANG GREEN'sassault is unbelievably tight and intense, and Mr . Doherty'sguitar work flails away mercilessly . "Terrorize" is particularlyawesome, so nerds should steer clear . (JB)( aang--84 Oak St .--Weston, MA 02193)

GRAND POO-BAHS - "This is Bedrock, not L .A ." cassette

LUMPEN PROLES - "She Wasn't Home/Positive Thinking" >

An unexpectedly good 45 by an upstate New York group."She Wasn't Home" is a tasty pop number with reasonably loudguitars and a strong 60's-style chorus ; the B-side is a moody,quasi-psychedelic cut with "heavy" lyrics, maaan . I like both,but the LUMPEN PROLES certainly won't appeal to those whoonly like hardcore . (JB)(No Crust--P .O . Box 7188--Albany, NY 12224)

LYRES - "On Fyre" LP *

Although the superb re-recorded versions of "Don't Give itUp Now" and "Help You Ann" alone almost make this albumworth buying, a series of horrible cover versions (including "IConfess" and two KINKS kompositions--"Love Me Till the SunShines" and "Tired of Waiting") and unispired originals conspireto undermine its overall value . Boston's LYRES are potentially agreat 60's-style punk band, but except for a triad of gems("I'm Tellin' You, Girl," "The Way I Feel About You," and "NotLike the Other One"), they don't live up to that potential here.(JB)(Ace of Hearts--P .O . Box 579--Kenmore Stn .--Boston, MA02215)

M .I .A . - "Murder in a Foreign Place" 12" EP

When I first heard this, I was a bit disappointed, but afteronly a couple more listens, those distinctive M .I .A.characteristics clearly emerged--a tight, powerful instrumentalattack, hooks galore, flashes of hot guitar work (especially on"Used to Know Me"), plaintive, evocative lead singing,intelligent themes, and some haunting background vocals (in"Modern Way" and "Boredom is the Reason") . So you'd be ajerk not to go out and buy it, you know? (JB)(Alternative Tentacles)

MAJOR CONFLICT - "Out Group" EP

A New York band that doesn't do thrash? Yes--this 3-songrelease features metalish punk with poppy vocals and lots ofguitar work . The best track is "Out Group," which providescommentary on the local scene, and there's also a goodinstrumental . Give them points for trying to be different . (JB)(Silent Scream--24-07 31st St .--Astoria, NY 11102)

MY 3 SONS - "Starving Artist/In the Beginning"

MY 3 SONS are a young experimental band from New Jersey."Starving Artist" is a droning metallic cut a la FLIPPER, andit's quite good if you like that sort of thing ; the flip is anoverlong mood piece with chimes and stream-of-consciousnesslyrics which I find unlistenable . Not really my cup of tea . (JB)(Buy Our Records--P .O . Box 363--Vauxhall, NJ 07088)

NEW COLONY SIX - "Breakthrough" LP

Although they ended up being nothing more than a schmaltzypop band, the NEW COLONY SIX started their career in themid- 60s with this mighty, near-perfect punk album . The grouphad a solid rhythm section, no-frills guitar breaks, and, mostimportantly, a domineering organ . They were also blessed withthe ability to sing in harmony, which probably contributed totheir eventual downfall, but the vocals here perfectly offsettheir crisp garage sound . (CL)

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The NEW MR . ORRS are a bunch of weirdos! There's a lot ofexperimentation here, and when they do launch into "songs"per se, it reminds me of a jazzier MEAT PUPPETS . (TY)(S . Russell--116 Frontenac Ave .--Toronto, Ontario--CANADAM5N 1Z9)

NEW REGIME - "Wake Up to Reality" cassette

A 4-song debut that exhibits a chunky thrash style . Stop/goparts, semi-jazzy drumming, and vocal harmonies are .allprevalent, and it might come out on vinyl later . (TY)(4258 Beeman Ave .--Studio City, CA 91604)

OUT OF ORDER - "Concerned " cassette

A 5-song demo of this young band's crisp thrash style . OUTOF ORDER have both D .C . inflections and L .A . influences, andthey play well, but without any special enthusiasm oruniqueness . Still, I expect that by the time they get vinyl out,they'll have developed their particular peculiarities, so watchfor them . (TY)(c/o Last Rites--1717 Sunnyside Beach Dr .--McHenry, IL 60050)

149 DEAD MARINES - cassette

Garage band fanatics will love this . Yup, it's another trashyoutfit that's emerged from the psycho ward called the Midwest.Watch for these cool cats in your town--then run! (TY)(R. Eicher--112} E . Washington St .--Iowa City, IA 52240)

PILGRIM STATE - "Effective Spiritual Warfare" LP

Hmmm . Early L .A .-style art damage meets jazz-pop meetsDeath Rock, with a dash of thrash thrown in . Happy Squidlabel fans will be happy, as will THROBBING GRISTLE fans.FALL fans might . I'm not too excited . (TY)(New Underground--4301 W . 153rd St .--Lawndale, CA 90260)

PLAGUE - "Catch" LP

A great example of the true spirit of D .I .Y . punk, the likesof which haven't been heard in many a year . The music here isprimitive, stripped-down punk rock h la '77-8, recorded at thesinger/guitarist's house in two days with vocals sounding likethey're coming out of the closet and no remixes . On the plaincover, the same fellow describes the course of his socio-politicalself-realization, which ultimately led to the making of "Catch,"and the results are ten times more honest and relevant than 90%of the stuff produced by various modern "hardcore" cliques."This is the Punk" says it all . (JB)(Plague--7 Florence St .--E . Patchogue, NY 11772)

PUBLIC HUMILIATION - "1242" cassette

Some really garagy stuff can be found here, both in termsof production and style . PUBLIC HUMILIATION mainly offerpunk rock with a simplistic beat, fun retardo lyrics, and anoccasional freak- out (which they advertise on the lyric sheetas "wild solo") . (TY)

($1 to Goon--3523 E . Ruth PI .--Orange, CA 92669)RAGGED BAGS - "Despair" cassette

A very roughly made tape that makes it difficult toappreciate the music . What I can hear is a fairly musicalpost-punk style, or maybe even pre-punk STOOGEish-soundingrock . On the eerie side . (TY)(Tommy Strange--4 Costley St .--Kent, OH 44240)

RANCID VAT - "Profiles in Pain" EP

Fusing punk with noise damage, this release is much moreaccessible than I would have predicted, based on their earlieralbum . It features older-style punk riffs that sound nice andout front, with really clear vocals, simple beats, and dissonancecoming from somewhere . As the title might indicate, the songsfocus on some of the nastier disappointments in life . (TY)(Brilliancy Paize--P .O . Box 40832--Portland, OR 97240)

RED BERET - "First Impression " LP

The energy and hard guitar sound here approximate thespirit of mid- to fast-tempo punk quite admirably, but there ' svery little memorable material on this varied release . Despitethe frenzy of "No Time for Losers" and a very solid renditionof the MONKEES' "I'm a Believer," I remain unimpressed . (SS)(Bemisbrain)

Despite the controversey over SACRED ORDER's supposedhomophobic, sexist attitudes, the music on their new demo tapeis an envigorating mixture of garage raunch, brain-damagedmetal guitar parts, psychotic vocals, and funnypunk themes (asexhibited in songs like "Funky Mr . Penis" and "3 Testes") . Ithink S .O . sound like a gas, and it's hard to imagine howanyone could Wthem too seriously . (JB)

(S. Baron--810 E . Meinecke--Milwaukee, WI 53213)SIEGE - "Drop Dead" cassette

t The best thing I've heard in a while! This tape hastremendous ferocity and boundless energy, delivered in analmost psychotic and wreckless manner, but without any loss oftightness . SIEGE have a nasty thrash attack with insanevocals and intelligent lyrics, captured perfectly by Radiobeat'sLou Giordano . Get it--it's great! (TY)(K . Habelt--30 Stoney Brook Ln .--Weymouth, MA 02188)

SUN CITY GIRLS - LP

Live, they come out dressed in Indian madras bedspreadsand masked faces like fundamentalist Islamic women, and launchinto what sounds like the DOORS meeting SYD BARRETT.Unfortunately, this album lacks the charm of their visualpresentation, and the "songs" . are largely unstructured, likejazz or avant-garde stuff . For the way-out only . (TY)(Placebo)

SACRED ORDER - "Saturation Bombing" cassette

NEW MR . ORRS - "Seasons of the Mind" cassette

TEX & THE HORSEHEADS - LP

Yet another example of one of this year's newtrends--cowpunk . In the tradition of GUN CLUB, BLOOD ONTHE SADDLE, and the new MEAT PUPPETS, TEX & THEHORSEHEADS are taking countrified structures and attemptingto infuse them with punk energy, and again the results aremixed . Songs like "Oh Mother" and "Short Train" are engagingamalgams with a driving beat, a bittersweet mood, loud buttasty folk guitars, and Texacala's husky vocals, but theirattempts at more traditional blues (JIMMY REED's "Big BossMan") and country ("Guitar Obsession") fall flat . (JB)(Bemisbrain--P .O . Box 90901--Long Beach, CA 90809)

U-MEN - "Blight" 12" EP

Abrasive yet rhythmic post-punk with herky-jerkystructures that are somewhat funky . Snarling vocals are theU-MEN's most interesting facet from my perspective . ForBIRTHDAY PARTY fans . (TY)(Bomb Shelter--112 Broadway E .--Seattle, WA 98102)

U .S . CHAOS - "We've Got the Weapons" 12" EP

Musically, this debut is prime-sounding '77 punk,well-played and well-produced . Lyrically, it would make Reaganblush with pride about the great job he's done brainwashingtoday's youth . They've got jingoistic lines like "I'm anAmerican--I stand tall and I'm proud/I'm an American--and I'llshout it out loud," and unfortunately they're not kidding . Duh!Maybe they'll do everyone a favor and join the Marines . (TY)(7 Church St .--Bloomfield, NJ 07003)

UNEXPECTED - "Big Fat Ugly Bitch" EP

Amateurish thrash and punk straight from a garagesomewhere in the the "garden" state . These teens have spunkand a good, albeit dumb, sense of humor, but don't expect anymusical miracles . "Hay Ho Ha" is the most intense cut;"Disgusting" is the most ludicrous . (JB)(Unexpected--P .O . Box 1836--Toms River, NJ 08754)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Bands that Could be God" LP

Paradoxically, most alternative compilations are either toomonodimensional or too multidimensional to hold the listener'sinterest, but this Massachusetts collection put out by Conflictfanzine's Gerard Cosloy avoids that common pitfall bypresenting diverse yet forceful bands . What we have here isbasically an engaging mixture of thrash bands with specialintensity and/or quirkiness (MOVING TARGETS, theOUTPATIENTS, DEEP WOUND, SORRY) and highly-structuredneo-psych groups (BUSTED STATUES, the FLIES, SALEM 66,BEANBAG), although they really shouldn't be classified rigidly.CHRISTMAS are too weird for me, but some of these bands areindeed God-like . A worthwhile investment . (JB)(Conflict--9 Jeffrey Rd .--Wayland, MA 01778)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Battle of the Garages 2" LP

The latest collection of neo-60's bands to hit the recordstores in recent months, and the second in a series . Its about50% lighter psychedelia and 50% punkoid stuff, with thegnarliest material emanating from the MIRACLE WORKERS,MYSTIC EYES, the ODDS, OUTNUMBERED, the FEZMEN, andthe SHARP TURNS. (TY),(Voxx--P .O . Box 7112--Burbank, CA 91510)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "The Chosen Few, vol . 2" LP

Here's a strong follow-up to the excellent garage punkcompilation, "The Chosen Few ." Again, we ' re given some of themost primitive, demented, fuzz-drenched 60's punk everunleashed on vinyl . Like volume 1, this is extremely consistent,and it should hold some surprises for even the mostknowledgeable collector . Some of the groups include theSYNDICATE, the PRIMATES, TERRY KNIGHT, the LEGENDS,the PLAGUE, etc . (CL)(A-Go-Go ; no address)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Code Blue" cassette

A compilation put out by Last Rites fanzine that includesseveral Chicago-area bands (the NADSAT REBELS, R .O .T .A .,A .O .F ., OUT OF ORDER, NAKED RAYGUN, BIG BLACK),other Midwest acts (NO RESPONSE, S .U .M ., DIE KREUZEN,SACRED ORDER, the FLESH COLUMNS, HUSKER DU), and acouple of extraneous coastal bands . The NADSAT REBELS turnout some excellent songs, and are a new group to watch . Abouthalf of the tracks on this tape are live, so the sound qualityvaries accordingly . (TY)(Last Rites--1717 Sunnyside Beach Dr .--McHenry, IL 60050)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Fresno Compilation : H .C . '84" cassette

From that blast furnace they call the "Central Valley" comesthis collection of bands on CAPITOL PUNISHMENT's label.Besides them, the bands that appear here are THINK TANK,the PROBLEM FISH, PRIMER GREY, the P .T .L . CLUB, HARSHREALITY, the SUBTRACTIONS, BURNIN ' BOB, DEATH CAMP,the MERE MORTALS, ASSAULT, KAOS, NO LABEL, the DIRTHEADS, and the WAWONA BOYS CHOIR . It mainly featuresmodern hardcore sounds, but also includes some unusual stuff.(TY)(Stage Dive--400 W . Gettysburg #236A--Clovis, CA 93612)

WARDS " . . . .Pershing II" EP

The WARDS maintain their politically-oriented garageapproach on their second EP. Musically, it's more punky thanthrashy, with a dash of art damage thrown in . Well worth it.(TY)(Medical--P .O . Box 3408--Burlington, VT 05402)

WHITE PIGS - "Victims" EP

The WHITE PIGS are a young Connecticut band . Althoughtheir themes are somewhat predictable and their music is in thestraightahead thrash category, the production on this EP isappealingly rough and many of the songs have both highlymemorable vocal parts and WHITE CROSS-like intensity(especially "Dropout," "Screamer," "Early Grave, " and "KillKop") . That's a recommendation . (JB)(White Pi .s--P .O . Box 18333--East Hartford, CT 06118)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Copulation" LP

A tremendous compilation of songs about the police, mainlyconsisting of Southern California bands, who ought to know(except for the ostriches in WHITE FLAG) . There are tracksfrom lesser-recorded groups like DR . KNOW, S .V.D.B .,AMERICA'S HARDCORE, the GRIM, and NEW REGIME, as wellas veterans like BLACK FLAG, G .I ., and SADO-NATION . (JB &TY)(Mystic--6277 Selma--Holt wood, CA 90028)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "I'd Rather Be in Philadelphia" LP

The non-hardcore equivalent of "Get Off My Back ." Notsurprisingly, it ranges from the excellent (MOTHER MAY 1'smoody psychedelic pop, PRETTY POISON's hauntingdance-oriented pop) to the decent (light 60's-style pop by theIMPOSSIBLE YEARS, BOOK OF LOVE, and the RED BUCKETS,as well as BUNNYDRUM 's eerie post-punk) to the awful(SENSI RY FIX's annoying meanderings and the STICKMEN'sjazz-damage) . The mixing and editing is couttesy of former LOSMPCROWAVE David Javelosa . (JB)(Burn Potential--P .O . Box 756--Cooper Stn .--N .Y ., NY 10276)

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ANIMAL FARM - "Model Soldier/John Julie"

For some reason, ANIMAL FARM sound like a punkish bandfrom the '79 era (e .g ., the SHAPES) . They have a certainquirky melodic quality, a clever wit, and a cleaner guitar soundthan one normally finds today . "Model Soldier" is a sarcasticlook at enlistees ; the flip seems to be a continuation of theJilted John/Julie story . Neat-O . (JB)(Rot--39 Bolsover St .--Mansfield--Notts NG 18 2PS--ENGLAND)

BARRACUDAS - "Endeavor to Perservere" LP

If you're familiar with the FLAMIN' GROOVIES "Shake SomeAction" album, you'll have a general idea what this thirdBARRACUDAS long- player sounds like . They even look likethe GROOVIES! Personally, I think a lot of the materia here ispedestrian--it certainly doesn't even begin to approach theirbest--but if you like that melodic, jangry- guitar folk-rockishgenre, some of it might click . (JB)(Closer--70 Rue MI-Galli€ni--76600 Le Havre--FRANCE)

BROKEN BONES - "Crucifix" EP

Every song on BROKEN BONES' second 7" is a piledrivingmetallic thrash cut with good vocal and instrumental hooks . Inretrospect, it's clear that Bones played a major role inDISCHARGE's early greatness, and if he can control histendency to do too much guitar wanking, his new band shouldoverwhelm the current incarnation of DISCHARGE . (JB)(Fall--c/o The Meat Man--63 Thorndyke St .--Shelton--Stoke-on-Trent--ENGLAND)

CLOCKWORK SOLDIERS - "Wet Dreams" EP

The title song is an hilarious trashing of the EVERLYBROTHERS' classic "All I Have to Do is Dream," with alteredX-rated lyrics . The flip contains one slow, tuneless Oi cut ("Inthe Name of Science") and a much better speedier number("Suicide") . The production is absurdly muddy, and the B-sidelabel has the wrong song order . (JB)

RotCOLD DANCE - "No Glamour in Industry" EP

Compelling female vocals of haunting persuasion highlightthis melodic outfit called COLD DANCE, whose sound touchesbase with a SIOUXIE & THE BANSHEES flavor . Gloomy butbrave, with a persistence of moody guitar noises that beat withbooming frequency . Interesting and effective . (Pus)(X-Centric

Noise--17

West

End

Rd .--Cottingham--North

Humberside — ENGLAND)ERAZERHEAD - "Summertime Now/Tonight "

More RAMONESey punk-pop from ERAZERHEAD . "SummertimeNow" is a fast, danceable paean to summer with tasty guitarbacking ; the flip is a much weaker pop ballad with a dull sax.A 50/50 proposition . (JB)(Flicknife)

GUANA BATZ - "The Cave/Werewolf Blues"

This 45 is a vast improvement over their rather lame debut.The main difference is that there's much more musical musclebehind their psychobilly this time around . "The Cave" is a hotguitar-picking number with screams ; the other is a moretraditional, less interesting track . (JB)(Big Beat)

INSTANT AGONY - "Nicely Does It/We Don't Need You"

A good new 45 from INSTANT AGONY . "Nicely . . . " has abouncy medium-paced beat, a boss guitar riff, and ironiclyrics ; the flip lacks the latter, but adds a better chorus . Bothcuts definitely grow on you . (JB)(Flicknife)

A strong Britpunk release . Most of the songs are in thestandard fast- to medium-tempo range, the lyrics are good, andthe vocals are rather high-pitched, but it's the quality guitararrangements, some well-placed sound effects, and a cleverbridge or two that make this EP stand out from the pack . "AllCreatures . . ." is an exceptional song . (JB)(Bluurg--2 Victoria Terrace--Melksham, Wilts--ENGLAND)

LURKERS - "The Final Vinyl" 12" EP

As a long-standing LURKERS fan, I can only wonder whyClay decided to release mediocre material which only serves totarnish the memory of a once-great '77 punk band . Side 1contains two unexciting post-punkish numbers (one being a lamecover of WILSON PICKETT's "Midnight Hour") ; side 2 featuresa commercial synth-pop thang ("By the Heart"), a hotalready-released punky blast ("Frankenstein Again"), and adecent slower punk-pop cut . Sad . (JB)(Cla )

MILKSHAKES - "Showcase" LP

Almost every time I go into a record store, they've got anew MILKSHAKES record in stock . Amazing! This, their firstAmerican release, has tracks from several of their earlier U .K.platters, and "showcases" their early 60's R 'n'B/instrumental/KINKS/Merseybeat sound at its best . Despitetheir self-imposed limitations, these ex- POP RIVVITS areundeniably fun . (TY)(Braineater--Box J--Island Park, NY 11558)

OPPRESSED - "Oi Oi Music!" LP

The slow- to medium-speed Oi anthems on the OPPRESSED'sdebut album lack any sort of lyric originality, but stand-outtracks like "Gun-Law," "Don't Look Back," and the hilarious"Skinhead Girl" add a certain dimension of personality to thisrelease . Nonetheless, it could use a dose of energy andinspiration . (JB)(Oppressed--357 Newport Rd .--Roath, Cardiff--S . WALES)

RESISTANCE 77 - "Vive Le Resistance" E'

As their name suggests, RESISTANCE 77 utilize a "classic"punk approach, one that's rich with strong melodies,irresistable background choruses, and an aggressive guitarsound . "Will They Survive?" and "Advance Factory Units" arethe most intriguing of the four tracks here and, although thelyrics aren't as inspired as one might hope, aficionados of good'77 punk will find something to their liking . Very fine . (SS)(Rot)

SELF ABUSE - "(I Didn't Want to be a) Soldier" EP

Despite SELF ABUSE's good intentions, this a boring exampleof current Britpunk . The songs have an awkward feel, thelaid- back production disguises the existence of two guitars,and the overall effect is not very exciting . Maybe next time.(JB)(Radical Change--St . Mary's Works--St . Mary's Plain--Norwich--ENGLAND)

SERIOUS DRINKING - "Country Girl . . . /Go for the Burn"

Although quite poppish, SERIOUS DRINKING may have theirfinest moment on vinyl with " Country Girl . . .," an hilariousnovelty track with humorous lyrics and pre-eminently catchyinstrumentals to boot . The B-side recalls S .DRINKING in theirmore rowdy, inebriated state, although the song isn't asmemorable . An enjoyable, upbeat record . (SS)(Upright)

UNDEAD - "The Killing of Reality" LP

Medium-speed Britpunk is not my favorite musical subgenre,but this particular album really hits a responsive chord . TheUNDEAD manage to hynotize and enchant here with measureddrum-heavy build-ups, double guitar power, and superiorsongwriting . Although almost all of these songs have a similartempo, certain 'compositions (like the haunting "Listen to theWallbeat" and the energized "Terrorist T .V .") stand out asmini-masterpieces . Unexpectedly good . (JB)

(Riot Cit )

SKEPTIX - "Return to Hell" EP

Another well-recorded SKEPTIX release . They've contributedtwo more killer thrash numbers, one with some interesting drumparts ("War Drum"), the other with a Metallic guitar solo (thetitle track) . The EP is rounded out by a slower cut called"Another Day ." (JB & TY)(Zenon--P .O .

BoxRd . --Kidsgrove--S-O-T--ENGLAND )

459--Lawton

INSTIGATORS - "The Blood is on Your Hands" EP

LEITMOTIV - "Tin/Silent Run"

LEITMOTIV seem more influenced by contemporary Britishpop than punk, but they're excellent at what they do . "(Livingin a) Tin" utilizes an intense drumming attack with a tasteful,spare use of guitar and synthesizer, while the B-side offersless kinetic energy . Infinitely better than the work of most oftheir peers . (SS)(Pax--P .O . Box 3--Sheffield--ENGLAND)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Potential Migraine" cassette

The recording quality here is pretty poor, so the potentialof bands like CHUMBA WAMBA, the PASSION KILLERS,KULTURKAMPF, the CHOIRBOYS, etc ., is barely discernable . Iknow that a lot of the punks who put out such tapes are skint,but is it really worth the effort for anyone but fanatical fans?Maybe . I did like what I could hear of the INSTIGATORS,though . (TY)(Raising Hell--6 Welburn Ave .--Leeds--W . Yorkshire--ENGLANDLS16 5HJ)

VERTICAL HOLD - "Angel Dust" EP

VERTICAL HOLD are essentially a moody post-punk bandwith undistorted guitars, as the two songs on this EP's B-sidedemonstrate . But "Angel Dust" is the really worthwhile cuthere, with its loping tempo, punkier structure, bossbackground vocals, and clever bass/drum oriented bridge . (JB)(Vertical Hold)

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ANARCHY - "Deracines" LP

These guys started out doing bad covers of good English '77punk songs, but now they're doing bad covers of bad songs,including their own . Here, they mix older-style punk materialwith awful rock compositions, and the gutlessly-producedresults are boring as hell . Please don't judge Japanese punk onthe basis of ANARCHY's releases . (TY)(Invitation ; no address legible)

BLUT & EISEN - "Fleischt Rollt/W .S .W .U .F ."

This vinyl offering from a newer German band contains onefast punk song with a nervous, screechy guitar ending("Fleisch Rollt"), and one hot little thrasher with a suddenchorus and more sharp guitar parts . Good . (JB)(Weird System--Lange Reihe 101--2000 HH 1--W . GERMANY)

BLUT & EISEN - "Schrei Doch!" LP

This powerful album features an energetic, thrashy soundaided

by

killer production and some truly

inventivecompositions . Songs like "Lange Gesichter" and thesuperbly-arranged "Dein Leben" add variety to a solid collectionof tracks which contain some excellent guitar work . Aconsistent,

strongly

recommended

record .

(SS)(Weird System--Lange Reihe 101--2000 Hamburg 1--W . GERMANY)

BOIKOTTZ - "Punk wird Leben" EP

A not-too-exciting German EP in the mid-tempo punktradition. The title song is boisterous and catchy, despite itswell-worn sentiments, but the two cuts on the B-side lackdistinguishing thematic or musical features (except for the coolbridges in "No Rights") . O .K . (JB)

(A .R .P . ; contact F . K(Thl--Mariusweg 8--2000 Hamburg 70GERMANY)

CODIGO NEUROTICO - "Totus Tous" EP

A pleasant mixture of fast- to medium-speed punk and onethrasher ("Pega a to Mama") can be found on C . NEUROTICO'sfirst release. Nothing here is mind-blowing, but some songshave catchy choruses (like the title cut and "Quema Tanques")and the guitars really growl at loud volume . (JB)(d

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Penetration--Apartado17 .140--Madrid--SPAIN)

COMES - "No Side" LP

Totally intense! This band hits hard with a modern thrashstyle not unlike that of certain D C . bands, in the sense thatthey are very tight and write songs with good hooks . (Jeffthinks they sound more like Holland's AGENT ORANGE) . Theirpowerful music is capped by great guitar work and the mostaggressive, psychotic, ragged female screamer yet to appear ona punk record . Phew! (TY)

(City Rocker ; dist . by Dutch East)

CRASH COURSE - "Wanna Be Like You" EP

The finest example of late 70's-style punk rock I've heardsince las VULPESS ' 45 . All of the songs here are unusually fastand rousing (except the slower fist-shaker, "Break Down theWalls"), with anthemic choruses and some shredding guitarleads . An epic Swiss EP . (JB)

(Gugi Trefzer--Buttenbergstrasse 63--2504 Biel--SWITZERLAND)

DEAD NITTEL'S - "Anti New Wave Liga" EP

Boisterous, growling hardcore from Austria . Named after apolitician shot in office--sound familiar?--the DEAD NITTEL'Sthrust forth a bombardment of rough-arsed exertion withraunchy vocals and intense punches of rapid momentum . Thisbarking assault really shows some strenuous roars atestablishing Austrian punk in a torpedoing exhibit of alertdisorder and exhilarating rhythms . Exciting and young! (Pus)(Dead Nittel's ; no address)

Very minimalist rockabilly/R'n'B with just drums, guitar, andvoice . It never gets crazy like, say, SUICIDE, and with aderivative genre like this, that's a real necessity . Still, iVsfun . (TY)(O .G .

Music--P .O .

Box

182--Stn .

F--Montreal,Quebec--CANADA H3J 2L1)

A defunct band from the small town of Korpilahti in centralFinland . The EXPLODED have a raunchy mid-tempo instrumentalattack and gravelly Oi-style vocals (like those of MAHONEITSYT) . This primitive but unremarkable tape is already soldout . (JB)(ULO/Pekka Suomi(ki--Kotamaki--41800 Korpilahti--FINLAND)

EXTREM/MICKEYMAN - "Punk Meets Reggae" split LP

HOVA LETT - "Nagyfero Bikini" LP

Unbelievable . How often have you heard shades of CRASS,D.R .I ., RITCHIE BLACKMORE, traditional Chinese music,Hungarian folk dancing, violin solos, and abrasive electronicnoises all on one record, let alone one song? A challengingbreath of fresh air . I wonder what else is going on inHungary? Is a new cult brewing? (JB)(Start ; no address)

INDIREKT - "Nieuws voor Doven . . . ." EP

A newer Dutch hardcore band . Their thrashers aredistinguished by strong instrumentals, hook-filled choruses withalternating female/male vocals, gutsy female lead singing (likeJulie from SIN 34), and progressive political themes; they alsodo slower punkers ("Hart . . ." and "Candlelight"), of which onlythe former has teeth . Though not as frenetic as I expectedafter Tim's remarks about the INDIREKT material on the "Bijna2000 . ." compilation (in MRR #12), this EP has a couple ofmini-classics (like "Shell Helpt") . (JB)($2 .85 to Indirekt--c/o R . Sweering--Rotiusstraat 111--1624 GAHoorn NH--NETHERLANDS)

Excuse my German, but the six ditties on this release soundlike light-hearted, goofy funnypunk in the best tradition ofEric Hysteric and friends . While an inability to understand thelyrics hurts one's capacity to enjoy this record fully, derDURSTIGE MANN still manage to produce some fairly catchymid-tempo punk--especially "Kronprinz Rudolfs letzte Liebe" andthe title cut--with somewhat overloud vocals '. Pleasant enough.(SS)(Wasted

Vinyl--D-6293

L'ohnberg--Obertorstrasse

6--W.GERMANY)

Tremendous explosions of maniac proportions that blisters asit smiles in triumph . Titanic nitro charges of frizzling speedand determined spunk packed by well-written lyrics snorted outin a raging fury . This entire effort reminds me of the NEOS . Itis irresistable and crude, as it devastates with hammeringforce . A band that should not go unnoticed by compilers aroundthe globe . (Pus)(P .

Zirschky--Burg

Poellstrasse

203--1064

BLAmsterdam--NETHERLANDS)

The EXTREM side is extreme! Raucous cycloning mayhemfrom Austria, enough driving power and insistent quickness tohurl you into a venture of mega-speed craziness . Savage guitargrinds charge out a brutal slaughter of aggression andcombustion, crammed into a wild seizure of raw energy.EXTREM escalate with each zooming slice . MICKEYMAN isAustrian reggae done well, and their punk song is basic andhumorous . Don't miss this album--the EXTREM stuff is drasticplastic . (Pus)(Rebel ; no address)

STAZIONE SUICIDA - "Sangue nel Muro" cassette

The poor quality recording here unfortunately obscures somedecent '79-style punk . It's a bit passe, but the speeded-uptempo compensates for that . (TV)(dist . by Poison,

--c/o S. Roberto--Via S. Ippolito 8--59951Ca stet fiorent i no- -Firenze--ITALY )

SCIENTISTS - "We Had Love/Clear Spot"

This 45 from Australia's SCIENTISTS is a fine newexample of their distinctive fusion of influences from the 60s,70s, and 80s . "We Had Love " is a mini-classic with sneeringCRAMPSish vocals, a pulsating rhythm, and a wall offeedbacking guitars in the true 60's tradition ; theless-impressive B-side has a garagy post-punk structure andsome nifty slide guitar . (JB)(Au-Go-Go--G .P .O .

542D--Melbourne,3001--AUSTRALIA)

Victoria

INTERTERROR - "Adios Lili Marlene/Felices Dias en Auschwitz"

I was under the impression that INTERTERROR were athrash band, but their well-recorded vinyl debut features twochunky classical punk cuts . "Lili Marlene" is a bouncy,sarcastic punked-out version of the old song sung by homesickGerman soldiers ; the flip is a faster, more driving number withbitter anti-repression lyrics and a terrific join-in chorus.Highly enjoyable music with serious themes . (JB)

(R .S . Editora ; dist . by Penetracion)

KAPELLE - "Nulpunkt" EP

Solid Danish post-punk . Good bass and drum interaction andquality guitar work are in full display on die KAPELLE's debutEP, and the songs are also pretty good (especially "TheKingdom of Despair") . MARCH VIOLETS fans should appreciatethis, but punks might be put off by the overlong tracks andunderemphasized guitar sound . (JB)(Triangle ;

dist .

by

No

Aarhus--Postbox

3--8381Mundeistrup--DENMARK )

SEKAANNUS /MASSACRE - split EP

Vigorous Finnish thrash strikes again! SEKAANNUS stormout with a firing presto-paced assailment of tumultuousmelodies, as the vocalist snarls out crys and wails in thetradition of TERVEET KADET ' s Laja. Brisk activity withplucking bass clamor provide this onslaught with a soundinfluenced by a combination of T .K . and RATTUS . MASSACRE'scompelling momentum blares out some potent dashes of powerfulforce, a harder approach with swift twists . (Pus)(Sekaannus--Virtaintie 17--34800 Virrat--FINLAND)

N .R .G. - "Kulturel Forwaltning/Sort"

N .R .G . are an immensely powerful mid-tempo punk bandfrom Denmark . "Kulturel Forwaltning" is a chunky blast with anultra- dense sound and memorable vocal parts which I love ; theflip is slower but equally bass-heavy, and it has some niftymelodic guitar breaks scattered here and there . Terrific . (JB)(Hub ; dist . by No Aarhus)

TARGETS - " Schneller, Lauter, Harter" EP

An exceptionally fine example of contemporary Germanhardcore,

combining

full-tilt

thrash

power

withTOTENHOSEN-size vocal hooks, catchy instrumentalarrangements, and some "on target" political themes (especiallyin "Geld regiert die Welt") . "Massenhysterie" is a choice cutthat'll have you singing along and waving your arms all overthe place . The TARGETS contain former members of SLIME . (JB)(A .R .P . ; contact S . Larsson--Palmerstrasse 37--2000 Hamburg26--W . GERMANY)

POIKKEUSTILA - cassette

For such a young thrash band, POIKKEUSTILA are pretty

good . The guitar work is hot, as is the singing--those Finnshave some of the most ragged voices--but the drumming lagsbehind a bit . If they get that hurdle cleared, they'll be

excellent . (TY)(E .

Piekainen--Opiskelijankatu

36A

18--33720

Tampere

72--FINLAND)

UNTER DEN LINDEN - "Utom V rara Liv" LP

Huh? Anyone expecting an album's full of incrediblethrashers like "Fat Boys" and "Little Boys" will be in for ashock after hearing this . Aside from the ripping "Arabenrein,"this LP reflects a synthesis of their earlier post-punk style andtheir recent hardcore influence, in that it weds loud, punkyguitars to melodic mid-tempo post-punk compositions withsporadic and (mercifully) restrained sax accompaniment . Evenso, I like it . (JB)(Amalthea--Ystadsgatan 22A--214 24 Malmi --SWEDEN)

RATOS DE PORAO - "Crucificados pelo Sistema" LP

An intense album chock full of Brazilian hardcore . Most ofRATOS DE PORAO's songs are adrenalin thrashers in theFinnish style, though some are ultra-fast (like "Caos" and "QueVergonha"), some have blistering leads (like "Sistema deProtesto" and the title cut), and others are slower ditties withmore melodies or singalong qualities (like "Nao me Importo" and"Asas da Vingansa") . The bass-heavy production tends tomuffle the piercing guitar tone, but raging blitzes like " PoluicaoAtomica" and "Periferia" will shake your cranium . (JB)

(Punk

Rock

Discos--Caixa

Postale 2 0014--CEP :02798--SaoPaulo--BRAZIL)

UPSET NOISE/N .S .P . WARFARE - "Vi Odio" split EP

Another crudely-produced Italian indie release withintelligent political themes . UPSET NOISE have a raw thrashattack that's tighter and catchier than that country's norm, andhence remind me a bit of the great INDIGESTI . N .S .P.WARFARE have a slightly slower English- influenced sound,except for one experimental number ("Anarchia I") . A goodblend . (JB)(Nuova Fahrenheit ; dist . by Poison)

KLIMAX - "Suvivirsi" cassette

A pretty rip-roaring demo, mixing thrash with a few slow,powerful songs . Not much is new, but for some reason KLIMAXsound more like an English thrash outfit than a Finnish band.(TY)(Karl Narhi--Savontie 73-75, B-19--76150 PMK 15--FINLAND)

SOME WEIRD SIN - "Sky's the Limit" 12" EP

Here's one for diehard fans of the SAINTS and RADIOBIRDMAN . This new Canadian group has the same heavy yettasty double-guitar sound, half-sneering/half-sung 60's punkvocals, and high-quality songwriting as their Australianmentors . Aside from a couple of slow numbers ("Walls areFalling In" and "Action"), these gutsy blasts are pretty damnirresistable . (JB)(Headbutt--P .O . Box 131, Stn . L--Wpg ., Manitoba--CANADA)

MACHIRO ENDOH - "Vietnam Legen• cassette

The lead singer of Japan's THE STALIN has put out a verywell- produced 9-song tape which comes with a high-qualitybook that includes multi-colored photos . He does many 60'ssongs here (like "Born to be Wild," "I Wanna Be Your Dog,"etc .), along with original compositions in styles ranging fromintense thrash to straight Metal to almost BEATLEsque material,and the band (who sound like THE STALIN) really crank itout . Excellent . (TY)(Stalin

OfficeKabuki-cho--Shinjuku-ku--Tokyo--JAPAN)

B .Q .--2-2-20-704

TOTENHOSEN - "Schiine Bescherung" EP

A remarkably enjoyable X-mas 7" from die TOTENHOSEN.The title cut has a silly spoken intro before breaking into theirwell- known brand of melodic funnypunk ; "Willi's WeisseWeihnacht" is slower and not particularly impressive . But"Knecht Rubrecht's Fahrt" is the really outstanding track here,with its clean, heavy instrumentation, indefatigable singalongchoruses, and hilarious theme . (JB)(Totenkopf ; dist . by Vinyl Boogie)

NEUROSE - "Hard Core" EP

This French record has exceptionally echoey, growling vocalsand choruses, very engaging guitar work, and a crisp sound.Jeff thinks these guys are inept and annoying, but Iparticularly appreciate the strange song structures and thedrumming, which seems totally out of it . Thrash that's a bit"off ." (TY) [Ed.--I'd say way off]

(77

Caca ;

$4

toGrenoble--FRANCE)

Bunker--1

Rue

Lakanal--38000

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Angst" cassette

Another Boston Tea Party tape from Denmark . An excellentcollection of tasty bands featuring the awesome "Havoc ZestAppeal" by WAR OF DESTRUCTION, who terrorize with theirunique stylings . Also present are Denmark's RAZOR BLADES,ILLEGAL 80, and ACTINGS OF A MAD MAN, the forging thrashof BAYONET from Finland, NO LABEL and the STONED RAZENSfrom England, and HEMLOSA HEMORROJDER from Sweden . Anice dose of crafty melodies . (Pus)(B . Hansen--Banehegnet 14st TH--2620 Albertslund--DENMARK)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Bloody Tulip" cassette

A Dutch sampler which states "Never Mind the Quality," butwhen you shove in seventy tracks of pure brutal mayhem andsonic thrash appeal, the results are raw and rambunctious, asnine bands haul their way into the speed record books . TheSQUITS, ZMIV, STANX, ZWEETKUTTEN, the VIKINGS,GLORIOUS DEATH, LARM, KNAX, and LA RESISTANCE allbreak out with full-tilt raptures of intense velocity . Yes, yes,yes! (Pus)(T .S .M . ; no address)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Collection Priv•e" EP

A rewarding French sampler with eight underground bands.The styles represented here are diverse--straight punk (lesELECTRODES, DIVISION LECLERC, FUCK WAVE), 60's punk(les CORONADOS), garage punk (STAKANOV), thrash(MEMORIAL VOICE), garage thrash (les STILLERS), andabrasive synth-punk k la the great METAL URBAIN(DISKOLOKAUST) . The latter is my fave . (JB)

(Poison Noir ; $5 to Bunker)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Fornekad Existens" cassette

Outside of HUVUDTVATT, the BRISTLES, ZYNTH-SLAKT,and E .A.T .E .R ., all of the other bands featured on thiscollection (SNUE- SLAPP HJXRNA, SVEA-SKANDAL, FAXE,PdBEL-MOBEL, S .S . PLEKTRUM, and ANTI-HUND-MINA) arenew to us . Most of these younger bands do standard punk(though some do thrash), but none seem that memorable ,especially considering the high standards set by the likes ofE .A .T .E .R . (TY)(Bortik

Magazine--c/o

T .

Ericson--Torgg

11--841

00Ange--SWEDEN )

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Great Punk Hits : Rebel Steet II" LP

On side 1 of this compilation, GISM lash out with theirmetallic thrash attack--with the accent on Metal--and nastyvocals, EXECUTE do ripping thrash, and ABURADAKO crossthrash with the POISON GIRLS' quirkiness . On the flipside,LAUGHIN' NOSE have one Britskunk song and one that soundsFinnish, while the CLAY adapt the early DISCHARGE style, andG-ZET close out with a slightly more melodic and metallic U .K.assault . All in all, this album has excellent sound quality andsome songs that'll knock you out . (TY)(Japan Rock ; dist . by Dutch East)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Larmattacke" cassette

A nifty international compilation put out by Germany'sAnti-System fanzine . The sound quality is uneven, but itcontains forty songs by twenty punk bands from all over theworld, including_ Germany (CERESIT '81, M .A.F ., theSCAPEGOATS, Z(JNDELLXNDER, DISASTER . KOM@), Finland(FUCKING FINLAND, TAMPERE S .S ., KUOLEMA), Sweden (theBRISTLES, ANTI-CIMEX), Italy (P .S .A., EU'S ARSE, theWRETCHED), Yugoslavia (U .B .R ., STRES-D .A., and ODPADKICIVILIZACIJE), South Africa (POWERAGE), Denmark (theRAZOR BLADES), and Poland (REJESTRACIJA) . Anti-System'spurpose is to facilitate communication, not to make profits, sosend away today . (JB)($4 to H . Prochnow--Meisenweg 4--2300 Klausdorf/Schw .--W.GERMANY)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Lopun Alku" cassette

A good collection of Finnish bands with an adequate soundquality . Some groups are very well known (RATTUS, theBASTARDS, and TAMPERE S .S .), others are not as familiar(MARIONETTI,

H .I .C .- SYSTEEMI,

PROTESTI,

FUCKINGFINLAND),

and

one

is

completely

new

to us

(thequasi-psychedelic KAHLITTU VAPAUS) . Most producehigh-powered thrash (especially the BASTARDS), but myfavorites are H .I .C . SYSTEEMI, who have ultra-gruff vocalsand a flair for writing join-in choruses . (JB)($2 & IRC to Lintsu--Riihikatu 1--65250 Vaasa 25--FINLAND)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Outsider" LP

Eight Japanese bands, all recorded live, appear in variousstates of sound quality here . Side 1 consists of older-stylepunk and some noise damage (MASTURBATION, FULLX, ROUTE66, MADAME EDWARDA), while side 2 blasts forth with a moremodern metal/thrash approach (GISM, the COMES, LAUGHIN '

NOSE, GAUZE) . GISM are hot, but the COMES come off thebest with their killer thrash . The cover is a CRASS-style

package . (TY)(City Rocker ; dist . by Dutch East)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Sas Eichontai" cassette

This tape is produced by Art Nouveau, an indie label/recordstore that specializes in distributing international punk in

Greece . Side A contains tracks by GENIA TOU CHAOUS(CHAOS GENERATION), who have more of an older punk styleand really garagy guitar work ; they also do a couple ofcleanly-produced post-punk gems and one psychotic screamer.The B-side is by ADIEXODO, who've also adopted a late 70'spunk sound, but are younger and less proficient . Write to Art

Nouveau for further information . (TY)(Art

Nouveau—c/o

N .

Kontogouris—lraklidon

56--NeonIraklion--14121 Athens--GREECE)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Senza Tregua" cassette

A collective effort by eight bands (C .C .M ., the WARDOGS, IREFUSE IT, the USELESS BOYS, STATO DI POLIZIA,JUGGERNAUT, TRAUMATIC, and PUTRID FEVER) fromTuscano, otherwise known as Gran Ducato-- ergo G .D .H .C . I'd

have to say that C .C .M . sound the hottest to me, with theiroutrageously distinctive vocals and unusual arrangements, butthere's plenty more to enjoy . (TY)($7 to A . Cecchi--Via Veneto 5--56100 Pisa--ITALY)

VARIOUS ARTISTS - "Wir Schlagen das Imperium " cassette

Ach, mein Gott! This is a surprisingly good-soundingcollection of forty-seven [! ] German punk bands, compiled byFlocky from Sputnick fanzine . His purpose is both to provide amore thorough picture of the punk underground in the BRDand to undermine the credibility and commercial success oflarger labels like Rock-O-Rama and A .R .P . I'm not sure if hecan manage the latter, since this is a limited distribution tapesold at cost, but efforts to put pressure on the moreestablishe Indies from below are surely worthwhile . Plus, youget to hear some great, little-known groups here . Go for it.

(JB)($5 to Martin Florian SchUck--Raindorfer Weg 8--D-8500Nurnberg 60--W . GERMANY)

VORKRIEGSJUGEND - "Vaukajott on 45" dbl 7" EP

Another extraordinary German hardcore band.VORKRIEGSJUGEND (who shouldn't be mistaken for noisemerchants VORKRIEGSPHASE) offer a potent mixture of tight,powerful thrashers with ultra-catchy choruses (like "Ratten "and "Heute Spass, Morgen Tod") and slower, anguishedsingalongs ("Vaterland" and "Bombe") . If groups like this keeparising, Germany will become the new center of high-qualityEuropean punk in no time . (JB)(Vinyl

Boogie--Gleditschstrasse

45 1000

Berlin

36 W.GERMANY)

WRETCHED - "Finiri Mai?" EP

Still another . thunderous, exciting EP from Italy'sWRETCHED . The compositions on this record are somewhatlonger than on their previous efforts, but the messy, explosivethrash sound remains highly effective, especially on steamrollerslike "Mai Arrendersi" and the title track . No question about it,here's another winner . Bravo! (SS)(Wretched ; dist . by Poison)

WARRIOR KIDS - "Adolescent/Forces de I'Ordre"

In France, even the skin bands seem to have a skunk soundrather than the pure "Oi" approach, with its sandpaper vocals,and the WARRIOR KIDS are no exception . On this 45, there aretwo catchy mid-tempo numbers--"Adolescent" has a much betterchorus, but the flip has a more innovative guitar intro thatreminds me of CRISIS . (JB)(Warrior Kids ; $3 to Vinyl Boogie)

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