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19/04/2018 Making the best use of computing in learning mathematics
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Making the best use of computing in learningmathematicsA joint discussion co-hosted jointly with Computing at School (@cas_london_crc) - framed around a series of
five questions
by ncetm a year ago
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
#mathscpdchat and #caschat joining forces this evening, 7.30-8.30pm, to discuss computing tosupport learning maths, with @cas_london_crc twitter.com/clcsimon/statu…
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Computer Science, Maths & Numeracy - free classroom resources from Teaching LondonComputing teachinglondoncomputing.org/interdisciplin… #caschat #mathscpdchat
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Questions for tonight's #caschat #mathscpdchat special. Be there or be a rhombus!
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SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Please join me in welcoming our very special guest hosts tonight: @mathscpdchat &
@cas_london_crc #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/DNASsjQMvC
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
Welcome to a #mathscpdchat with #caschat special! How to make the best use of computing inlearning and teaching mathematics? BOTH HASHTAGS!
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
We’ll be using Q1 / A1 (question 1/answer 1) format. Please respond to each question e.g A1 A2.
Include the hashtags: #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/csJXTshzfc
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SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Welcome to this #caschat #mathscpdchat special! Please introduce yourself and tell us which chat
you usually take part in! pic.twitter.com/PoEm9ITMuQ
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Welcome #caschat #mathscpdchat @janewaite from @CompAtSch @KingsECS @QMEECSvery excited to finding out about @ScratchMaths
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon Hi i’m Ben and I usually take part in #caschat. Glad to be part of #mathscpdchattonight.
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
First question coming up! #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/BhPLhPJZma
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Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon #mathscpdchat Hi, Maths is my first passion, but found Twitter as a Computing SLso dabbled in #caschat
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon #caschat is my usual Tuesday night fix #mathscpdchat
Eliot Williams@MrEliotWilliams
A YEAR AGO
Hello, Eliot secondary computing teacher in North West London here #caschat normally but#mathscpdchat as well tonight
Loop Space@mathforge
A YEAR AGO
First time in these chats. Maths and computing teacher, always looking to integrate the two.#caschat #mathscpdchat
Q1: What resources/activities do you currently use that can support both Maths & Computing?
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
MT @cas_london_crc Q1. What resources/activities do you currently use that can support both
Maths & Computing? #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/KMIhpytnKp
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CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat Q1 Beebots for sequencing and directional work Hi @claireg0
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc @TweetDeck What would Harry Hill say? :D :D #caschat #mathscpdchat
ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
Hello everyone - this is Laura Benton and Piers Saunders from the SM team. Looking forward toanswering your qs! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci Welcome Stuart, so glad you could join us! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Geogebra - but takes careful planning in a school teaching environment
Amir M Arezoo@WorkEdgeChaos
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat geogebra is great, but takes careful planning to use in a school teachingenvironment #mathscpdchat #caschat
Scratch, Snap!, Python...
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat a1 Scratch, Snap!, Python, R, Mathematica, Google Sheets, Geogebra@clcsimon @cas_london_crc
Do you have any planning you can share?
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CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat do you have any planning that you can share?twitter.com/WorkEdgeChaos/…
Anything that supports problem solving in both maths and computing
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
There’s a very clear link between problem solving in maths and computing, so anything whichsupports that. #caschat #mathscpdchat
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat Welcome to the developers/research team from @ScratchMathstwitter.com/clcsimon/statu…
Loop Space@mathforge
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc as much programming as I can get them to do (spreadsheets atfirst, proper langs later) #mathscpdchat #caschat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc A1 Scratch and Python Turtle art, binary to decimal conversion#caschat #mathscpdchat
Amir M Arezoo@WorkEdgeChaos
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc I have some filed away somewhere, happy to share it. #mathscpdchat#caschat
Which year groups do you use Geogebra with? How?
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mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@WorkEdgeChaos Which year-groups do you use it with? How? #mathscpdchat #caschat
Beebots to create number sequences for manipulation
Claire Graham@claireg0
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc #caschat #mathscpdchat I use Beebots a lot to create number sequences thatcan then be manipulated
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
A1: Saw maths activity where pupils explored sampling rate of sound files #caschat#mathscpdchat
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc A! variables using timers that start/finish/decrease at givennumber properties #caschat #mathscpdchat
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat also scratch and unplugged activities-addressing binary andencryption Q1
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@hengehall A1 #caschat #mathscpdchat our @CodeClub Ss were doing lots of Maths whendoing the Boat game project yesterday - even angles!
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CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Great idea, do you have lesson plans to share??? My kids loved making mats for their mathstargets +10, x5 etc #caschat #mathscpdchat A1 twitter.com/claireg0/statu…
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@rcoultart @hengehall @CodeClub Sounds great! Please tell us more! #caschat #mathscpdchat
For A1: lightbot and cargoblot
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
A1 I really like lightbot and cargobot, both very mathematical in the thinking you need. #caschat#mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@computingchamps @scratch Do you have a link to any examples Neil? #caschat#mathscpdchat
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc @SuAdamsEdIT Sounds great #caschat #mathscpdchat
A1: Identifying patterns in interior angles to create a shape creator
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
A1: identifying patterns in interior angles to create a shape creator (stolen from@MrHeadComputing ) #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/MrHeadComputin…
Lots of scope in Scratch - with variables, repeats etc
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
Lots of scope in scratch too, with variables, repeats etc #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@WorkEdgeChaos @cas_london_crc Hi Amir, so glad you could join us! #caschat#mathscpdchat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@rcoultart @hengehall @CodeClub What aspects of maths did it invove them in?#mathscpdchat #caschat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing @cas_london_crc Thanks for sharing Tim! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing That's the one #caschat #mathscpdchat
Scope for Minecraft and maths/computing
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Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
Not done it yet, but there’s a lot of scope for Minecraft and maths/computing #caschat#mathscpdchat
Kelvin Stephens@KJSICT
A YEAR AGO
Hi sorry im late #caschat #mathscpdchat I like using Scratch and touch develop for drawingshapes, thinking about sides and angles.
Amir M Arezoo@WorkEdgeChaos
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat best was with older students, particularly around transformations #caschat#mathscpdchat
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
I saw @ImmersiveMind at Bett last year - he has some great ideas for this. #caschat#mathscpdchat
Loop Space@mathforge
A YEAR AGO
@hengehall Do you mean Cargobot on the iPad? Would very much like to know how you use it (Iwas a beta tester for it) #mathscpdchat #caschat
Mr Wing@mrwing_ict
A YEAR AGO
A1: used sphero and tynker app to look at angles in Primary school #caschat #mathscpdchat
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Question 2 coming up shortly! #caschat #mathscpdchat https://t.co/AsAAF4X1MD
Question 2 coming up shortly! #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/AsAAF4X1MD
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Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
A1 Identifying calculations needed to state if a number is multiple of a given number #caschat#mathscpdchat
Canadian research on boundaries between mathematical and computational thinking
Alison Clark-Wilson@AliClarkWilson
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat Canadian researchers are exploring boundaries between mathematicaland computational thinking keynote.conference-services.net/resources/444/…
Jo Brodie@JoBrodie
A YEAR AGO
Hello to everyone on the #caschat twinned w #mathscpdchat hashtags - here are some freedownloadable resources for maths & computing :) Q1 twitter.com/cas_london_crc…
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
A1 Not seen this one before! Only used the @CodeClub stuff so far - so much toexplore...#caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/MrHeadComputin…
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
A1 programing cuboids of a given volume using #minecraftpi #caschat #mathscpdchat
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@mathforge Yes - I use it to stretch KS2 children. It makes them think about processes andif/then concepts. #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Kelvin Stephens@KJSICT
A YEAR AGO
@hengehall Me too! I saw @ImmersiveMind at BETT this year and got some ideas. #caschat#mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@JoBrodie Hi Jo, so glad you could join us! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Loop Space@mathforge
A YEAR AGO
Might be an interesting read for some "What does mathematics have to do with programming?"#mathscpdchat #caschat softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/q/136987/48582
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@WorkEdgeChaos What kinds of question do you/they pose? #mathscpdchat #caschat
ALISON CLARK-WILSON @ALICLARKWILSON · A YEAR AGO
It all started with Seymour Papert!! youtube.com/watch?v=xMzojQ… - a must watch video
#mathscpdchat #caschat pic.twitter.com/1ncAjUh9zP
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Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@JoBrodie Thanks for sharing Jo! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Q2: What do you see as the benefits/opps for using Scratch?
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
MT @cas_london_crc Q2. What do you see as the benefits/opportunities for using @ScratchMaths ?
#caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/71YdZVOqSV
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat The first step is to try them out yourself. They both teach you to solve problemsin the fewest steps #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts Pi Bot@jonwitts_pi_bot
A YEAR AGO
@b3ndavi3s Agreed; lots of scope with #minecraftpi for spacial recognition, 3D axis etc.#caschat #mathscpdchat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@hengehall @mathforge Do you have any links that teachers can look-up/explore?#mathscpdchat #caschat
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Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat They were calculating angles to make a barrier spin & varying speed ofboat by changing numbers and setting timers
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc Have not used @ScratchMaths but will take a look now! :-)#caschat #mathscpdchat
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
I'm hoping that @ScratchMaths will mean children to better in the ks2 SATs than they wouldwithout it. #caschat #mathscpdchat #a2 @clcsimon
Kelvin Stephens@KJSICT
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc Sometimes with nets, polydron and straws #caschat #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing @clcsimon @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths I like the potential tomanipulate maths to see what happens #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@JoBrodie Free stuff! Now that's what I like to hear :D #caschat #mathscpdchat
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing @clcsimon @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths and identify how patternscan be used in algorithms #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
Thanks Neil! #caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/computingchamp…
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@WorkEdgeChaos Lots of people new to #mathscpdchat are joining from #caschat!
Y5 Scratch materials available - Y6 to follow later this year
ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
You can find our Y5 materials on our new website ucl.ac.uk/scratchmaths (Y6 will be availablelater this year) #caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/clcsimon/statu…
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@computingchamps @jonwitts @scratch Thanks for sharing Neil! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@ScratchMaths Thanks for sharing! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @MrHeadComputing @clcsimon @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths fyi -scratchmaths.org #caschat #mathscpdchat
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat @mathforge This is good for lightfoot lightbot.com/Lightbot_Basic… #caschat#mathscpdchat
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Colleen Young@ColleenYoung
A YEAR AGO
@AliClarkWilson now that takes me back! #mathscpdchat #caschat
Dr. Scratch@DrScratchTool
A YEAR AGO
Hope we arrive at time to the #caschat #mathscpdchat Developing Mathematical Thinking withScratch researchgate.net/publication/28…
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@NixxSunshine @mathscpdchat @Desmos Will take a look. Thanks for sharing Nix #caschat#mathscpdchat
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat @mathforge and this for cargo-bot - very detailed but covers the concepts well:cs.utexas.edu/~bbeth/files/i… #mathscpdchat #caschat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths Can we have a link to a ScratchMaths intro?#mathscpdchat #caschat
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@mberry @ScratchMaths A2 Sounds good, but I'm at the stage of using @purpleMash Design &Build with my 4 year olds! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
cc @mberry #caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/AliClarkWilson…
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Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat @mathforge should read lightbot, over enthusiastic auto correct… #caschat#mathscpdchat
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc well, doing well in maths is probably a Good Thing in its own right... #caschat#mathscpdchat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@DrScratchTool Thanks! #mathscpdchat #caschat
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing @Mr_Comp_Sci @clcsimon @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths promotesproblem solving over calculations #caschat #mathscpdchat
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Question 3 coming up in 2 minutes! #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/BK3uVHNOaq
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Dr. Scratch@DrScratchTool
A YEAR AGO
Introducing programming activities with Scratch to learn maths in 6th gradejite.org/documents/Vol1… #caschat #mathscpdchat @cas_london_crc
Has anyone mapped the Maths POS statements that COULD be taught with Computing?
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat has anyone mapped the maths curriculum POS statements thatCOULD be taught with Computing? Or is the answer it all?
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
.@cas_london_crc but for schools where SATs are all that counts, it might make HTs happier tospend time on 'puting. #caschat #mathscpdchat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @NixxSunshine @Desmos @geogebra What do you do with them, Pete?#mathscpdchat #caschat
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths Link for ScratchMaths >>
online.scratchmaths.org #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/DOxy0VDgFz
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Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
A2 @ScratchMaths really interests me. I’m a computing specialist, but I see lots of scope to teamteach with maths #caschat #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@mberry @cas_london_crc Precisely the 'hook' we had to use to get into primaries. It will helpyour maths. #caschat #mathscpdchat
Scratch might engage students in maths and computing
Kelvin Stephens@KJSICT
A YEAR AGO
A2 I like the idea of @ScratchMaths I think it will engage Ss in maths and computing. I want tofind out more. #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/michaeliteach/…
Q3: What can we learn from the teaching of Maths that we can use to support the teaching of Computing,
and vice-versa?
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
MT @cas_london_crc Q3. What can we learn from the teaching of Maths that we can use in
Computing and vice-versa? #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/6Wgqi5NTVl
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Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@michaeliteach @iteach_uk @SpheroEdu Thanks for sharing Michael! So glad you could joinus! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Loop Space@mathforge
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc Would love to do/see this. Gut feeling is "everything" #mathscpdchat#caschat
Colleen Young@ColleenYoung
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @NixxSunshine @mathscpdchat @Desmos I must use @Desmos every day also@Wolfram_Alpha. also #excel #mathscpdchat #caschat
A3: abstraction makes more sense when programming than algebra
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
A3: I feel abstraction makes more sense when programming than algebra #caschat#mathscpdchat
Nix@NixxSunshine
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @mathscpdchat also been trying out @Symbaloo 2put series of computer basedtasks together for comp lessons #mathscpdchat #caschat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc A3 More chance for Ts across departments to collaborate wouldbe a good start! ;-) #caschat #mathscpdchat
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CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Good point! subsumed to the dusty PC for finished early fillers. How can we elevate to qualitycross curricular? #caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/digitalmaveric…
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@b3ndavi3s @Mr_Comp_Sci @cas_london_crc @ScratchMaths Do you mean choose calcs todo as part of prob solving? #mathscpdchat #caschat
Miles Berry: thoughts on computational thinking and mathematical reasoning
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
Some thoughts on computational thinking and mathematical reasoningmilesberry.net/2016/11/comput… #caschat #mathscpdchat #a3 @clcsimon
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @clcsimon @cas_london_crc Do you have any links we could read? #caschat#mathscpdchat
Learn from every mistake: students experience gaming all the time, so can apply to Maths and Computing
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
A3 Learn from every mistake. Kids experience this gaming all the time so why not apply tomaths and computing? #caschat #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @clcsimon @cas_london_crc I often wish there was there was some computingconcepts with maths quals #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
Totally agree! Can learn a lot from each other when team teaching / planning an extended topic!#caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/jonwitts/statu…
Loop Space@mathforge
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc Computing is the playground of Mathematics, so us CS to exploreMaths & Maths to explain CS #mathscpdchat #caschat
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc #caschat #mathscpdchat Links to ALL learning are not subjectspecific. Blinkers off-be open to new connections
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@mberry Thanks for sharing Miles :) #caschat #mathscpdchat
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@mathscpdchat @Mr_Comp_Sci @cas_london_crc yes opportunity for the application ratherthan just rehearsing calcs #caschat #mathscpdchat
Weintrop et al (2016) indicate some v close alignment between mathematical and computational thinking
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ALISON CLARK-WILSON @ALICLARKWILSON · A YEAR AGO
#mathscpdchat #caschat @ScratchMaths 2016 paper by Weintrop et al indicates some very close
alignment between maths/comp thinking 1/2 pic.twitter.com/igGhLwGy2p
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc My daughter was taught computing by a maths teacher last year in year 7…#caschat #mathscpdchat
Mr Wing@mrwing_ict
A YEAR AGO
A3: Debugging #caschat #mathscpdchat
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SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
@DdR333 @cas_london_crc #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/hxS9CmGeJr
DR. SCRATCH @DRSCRATCHTOOL · A YEAR AGO
A1: This is a math board for Beebots we used in our workshops github.com/programamos/Re…
#caschat #mathscpdchat @cas_london_crc pic.twitter.com/fNkPy4CQVg
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CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#mathscpdchat #caschat can researched products such as ucl.ac.uk/ioe/research/p… help?twitter.com/MrHeadComputin…
Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @clcsimon @cas_london_crc agree but shows those with procedural fluency thebenefit of having it #caschat #mathscpdchat
Useful link between decomposing a maths problem and decomposing a coding task
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
A3 #caschat #mathscpdchat I think there's a very useful link between decomposing a mathsproblem and decomposing a coding task...
Accurate syntax
Ben Hall@hengehall
A YEAR AGO
@mrwing_ict also accurate syntax #caschat #mathscpdchat
(link to Weintrop paper)
Alison Clark-Wilson@AliClarkWilson
A YEAR AGO
#mathscpdchat #caschat Weintrop Paper at link.springer.com/article/10.100… perhaps@CharteredColl members get free access- one good reason to join!!
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Welcome Spain!! an international contribution! Have you seen ucl.ac.uk/ioe/research/p… ordrscratched the code? #caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/DrScratchTool/…
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Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
A3: in terms of pedagogy the way methods are explained, alternatives explored and steps tosolve problems identified #caschat #mathscpdchat
Colleen Young@ColleenYoung
A YEAR AGO
@DdR333 @clcsimon @cas_london_crc good point. eg Cognitive Science important for allteachers. see eg @AceThatTest #caschat #mathscpdchat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@DrScratchTool @cas_london_crc What do pupils do with this board? #mathscpdchat#caschat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock Had discussion with trainee the other day. Ppl didn't get algebra but understoodvariables. #caschat #mathscpdchat
Long term memory: procedural and calcuation? What is the difference?
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Does it all need to get into long term memory somehow? procedural and the calculation? Whatis the difference?#caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/b3ndavi3s/stat…
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@DrScratchTool We've used similar for number bonds with EYFS #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
A3: Computing can provide an engage and purposeful context in which conceptualunderstanding can be applied #caschat #mathscpdchat
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Question 5 coming up! #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/W3bllnpH2V
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock Perhaps introducing variables before letters and equations would make moresense #caschat #mathscpdchat
KathrynPeakeKathryn Peake@KathrynPeake
A YEAR AGO
@T0nymca Sadly Decision Maths now (As of Sept 17) only in Further Maths AL - great loss.#mathscpdchat #caschat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock yet variables can be a tricky concept for some too... #caschat#mathscpdchat
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ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
A3 Within SM we have designed tasks to support problem solving and reasoning in mathematics#caschat #mathscpdchat
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon Wow! Did I miss number 4?! #caschat #mathscpdchat Tweetdek moves fast...
What resources/activities do you currently use that can support both Maths and Computing?
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
MT @cas_london_crc What problems do you see in teaching cross-curricular Maths/Computing &
how do you overcome these? #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/bU5zOypuLb
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@jonwitts @MrMattock Yes. I think it was more the ability to create your own label. #caschat#mathscpdchat
Should we think about school maths in functional rather than procedural terms?
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
.@cas_london_crc should we think about school maths in functional rather than proceduralterms? #caschat #mathscpdchat cc @conradwolfram
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Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@KJSICT Definitely skills to be transferable and applied cross curricular and Ss need to beaware of this #caschat #mathscpdchat
Students can struggle with the duality of variables (name and contents etc)
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock I find Ss can struggle with the duality of variables. Name andcontents etc. #caschat #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@Dan_Aldred @MrMattock Yes and the context might then help contextualise the maths#caschat #mathscpdchat
Being able to explore what happens to variables is useful
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@jonwitts @MrMattock Being able to explore what happens to variables is useful. #caschat#mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @cas_london_crc A4 misalignment of POS of each subject in Secondary. e.g. binaryand hexadecimal in KS3 CS #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@rcoultart @Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock @CodeClub Mena the two parts to it, name and thecontents of it #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock Yes. x y z have no meaning but score, total and lives does. #caschat#mathscpdchat
ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock for evidence check out Learning Mathematics and Logo - edited by Hoyles andNoss 1992 #caschat #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock Sorry not meaning to teach you how to suck eggs! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock absolutely agree. I describe a variable as a box with a name onit... #caschat #mathscpdchat
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
The stress on written methods & no-calculator approach of current maths curriculum / SATs@clcsimon @ScratchMaths #caschat #mathscpdchat a4
Getting the idea of a variable is a great contribution from computing to maths learning
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock Getting the idea of a variable is a great contribution fromcomputing to maths learning! #mathscpdchat #caschat
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Ben Davies@b3ndavi3s
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock In pri having something tangible like a scoring systemcountdown timer helps with context #caschat #mathscpdchat
Kelvin Stephens@KJSICT
A YEAR AGO
A4: evidence in books, and the formal methods that are needed for SATS #caschat#mathscpdchat
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
A4 #caschat #mathscpdchat lots of great apps like Manipulatives, NumberFrames, Pieces Basic,Number Rack, Geoboard, hungry Fish, 6 Numbers
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@b3ndavi3s @MrMattock Careful. We're all sounding far too constructivist. It's a dirty word ontwitter. #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@claireg0 @Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock nice! I like that one; might use it at KS3 too! :-)#caschat #mathscpdchat
Magic tricks to teach algebra?
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SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @Mr_Comp_Sci Have you tried using Magic tricks to teach Algebra? >>
teachwithict.weebly.com/the-magic-of-m… #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/IYp5pYSr9l
ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing @clcsimon @cas_london_crc we focus on this within one of our Y6modules #caschat #mathscpdchat
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Wooop we are trending lets beat #holbycity #caschat #mathscpdchattwitter.com/top_uk_now/sta…
Alison Clark-Wilson@AliClarkWilson
A YEAR AGO
#mathscpdchat #caschat recent @CERME10_2017 maths ed conference addressed this theme -see paper by Broley et al at keynote.conference-services.net/resources/444/…
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SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Final question coming up! #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/aonuapVKlL
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc Try searching 'virtual manipulatives' in the app store, there are a few goodones. #caschat #mathscpdchat
franklank@franklank
A YEAR AGO
Q4 Essential Maths Skills for Computer Science - great book #CASChat #mathscpdchat
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
For some of the issues see @NCTM's position statement nctm.org/Standards-and-…@ScratchMaths @clcsimon #caschat #mathscpdchat a4
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock I remember being taught x,y,etc. can be called whatever you want. Prog allowspupils to try this. #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@franklank This one? hoddereducation.co.uk/Product/978147… #caschat #mathscpdchat
Q4: What problems do you foresee in teaching cross-curricular Maths/Computing, and how do you
overcome these?
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
MT @cas_london_crc What CPD/resources would be useful to improve the teaching of Maths with
Computing and vice versa? #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/Pkg1m2oGRv
Happy Number Checker...
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COLLEEN YOUNG @COLLEENYOUNG · A YEAR AGO
Showed my students a @scratch resource when we looked at Happy Numbers!
colleenyoung.wordpress.com/resources/inve… #mathscpdchat #caschat
pic.twitter.com/I8KyKmU86V
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @MrMattock @Mr_Comp_Sci No! But we do play pontoon with number bonds to10! #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci @MrMattock explaining why variables are called Foo and Bar is also a goodone ;-) #caschat #mathscpdchat
ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
@DdR333 within our materials we start from the very basics and walk teachers through step-by-step #caschat #mathscpdchat
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franklank@franklank
A YEAR AGO
@jonwitts yes that's it. Been really good for A level combined with the pg online computerscience book #CASChat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@franklank Thanks, will take a look later #caschat #mathscpdchat
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@ColleenYoung @scratch Great looking site - thanks for sharing. Will explore later #caschat#mathscpdchat
New emphasis on 'process' in GCSE Maths requires structure, logic, flow
KathrynPeakeKathryn Peake@KathrynPeake
A YEAR AGO
@mberry @clcsimon @ScratchMaths But new emphasis on 'process' in GCSE Maths requiresstructure, logic, flow #mathscpdchat #caschat
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@MrHeadComputing @clcsimon @cas_london_crc Agreed and some need to see its absoluteimportance and benefits still #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@ColleenYoung @scratch Thanks for sharing Colleen! #mathscpdchat #caschat
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ScratchMaths@ScratchMaths
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat that's what makes our research feel worthwhile!twitter.com/AliClarkWilson…
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
What is processed thinking any links?#caschat #mathscpdchat twitter.com/martincaddy/st…
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
Join in with the #caschat #mathscpdchat to see how they can get even better!twitter.com/TowerHamletsNo…
See also ncetm.org.uk/resources/49982 from most recent NCETM Secondary Magazine (free login req'd)
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock @ScratchMaths Good question! We will be discussing pupils' uses of mathematicallanguage in #mathscpdchat on 21 Feb! #caschat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@4954education @clcsimon @cas_london_crc really? I find Ss can quickly get to code morethan maths knowledge allows #caschat #mathscpdchat
How do you teach variables?
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
How do you teach #variables? Having this discussion with @suesentance today #caschat#mathscpdchat twitter.com/mathscpdchat/s…
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Jenny@crisp_aholic
A YEAR AGO
A1: good ol Microsoft Excel to explore data organisation, analysis and representation #caschat#mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc @suesentance a bucket with a label on it (name)... What's in the bucket now(value)? #caschat #mathscpdchat
Q5: What CPD/resources would be useful to improve the teaching of Maths with Computing and vice-versa?
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
MT @cas_london_crc What CPD/resources would be useful to improve the teaching of Maths with
Computing & vice versa? #mathscpdchat #caschat pic.twitter.com/IqacCXCV1r
franklank@franklank
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc @jonwitts this is the link for the pg online book I usepgonline.co.uk/resources/a-le… #CASChat #mathscpdchat
Do we have to 'teach' cross-curricular Maths/Computing? Shouldn't it arise naturally if teaching one or the
other?
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Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
A5 Do we have to 'teach' cross-curricular Maths/Computing? Shouldn't it arise naturally ifteaching one or the other? #caschat #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc @suesentance Marked a nice assignment on this the other day. Focused onmisconceptions. #caschat #mathscpdchat
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
@jonwitts @cas_london_crc @suesentance Nice! What might (not) be in the bucket?#mathscpdchat #caschat
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat agreed!! But how do we get teachers the time ....twitter.com/MrHeadComputin…
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@4954education @clcsimon @cas_london_crc so more likely with higher level CS Ss or otherway round? #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
Good question! #mathscpdchat #caschat twitter.com/rcoultart/stat…
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@rcoultart Osmosis #caschat #mathscpdchat
Confidence and subject knowledge biggest obstacle - time to focus on own CPD helps
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Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
A5 #caschat #mathscpdchat Teacher confidence & subject knowledge will always be biggestobstacle. Being given time to focus on own CPD helps
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@MrMattock Not suggesting a replacement more a different context for the same thing. Do yougo straight for letters? #caschat #mathscpdchat
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
#caschat #mathscpdchat must depend on the activity and prior learning / cognitive load etctwitter.com/jonwitts/statu…
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@martincaddy @clcsimon @cas_london_crc We start with basic Maths in Python as intro tovariables and operators #caschat #mathscpdchat
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
@martincaddy ... or Haskell :-) @clcsimon @cas_london_crc #caschat #mathscpdchat
CAS London@cas_london_crc
A YEAR AGO
THANK You to @clcsimon for helping me host our first #caschat #mathscpdchat - I hope we gotsome new ideas and made new friends!
mathscpdchat@mathscpdchat
A YEAR AGO
Thanks for all contributions to tonight's #mathscpdchat with #caschat. Read all tomorrow atncetm.org.uk/resources/41729
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Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc I think the basic Maths applied to new concepts (e.g. Python) helps Ss graspbasic of new concept #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@4954education @clcsimon @cas_london_crc see a clear distinction in CS betweenstronger/weaker Maths Ss by Y9 #caschat #mathscpdchat
Kelvin Stephens@KJSICT
A YEAR AGO
Thanks for another great #caschat #mathscpdchat If I had the time, I would like to develop andresearch Maths/Computing links further!
SIMON JOHNSON @CLCSIMON · A YEAR AGO
Please join me in thanking our wonderful hosts for an awesome job hosting tonight!
@cas_london_crc & @mathscpdchat #caschat #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/APHMk4WaWn
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Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@4954education @clcsimon @cas_london_crc feels like a direct correlation to me #caschat#mathscpdchat
Donna Rawling@DdR333
A YEAR AGO
@clcsimon @AlwaysComputing Thanks for another great #caschat Definitely enhanced by thecross-curricular element #mathscpdchat
Stuart Davison@Mr_Comp_Sci
A YEAR AGO
@mberry @martincaddy @clcsimon @cas_london_crc In some strange way I think FP would beeasier for maths ppl to grasp #caschat #mathscpdchat
Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
@martincaddy I suspect functional languages (Snap! Mathematica Haskell) are better suited tomathematical reasoning #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
Thanks to @cas_london_crc and @mathscpdchat for hostinfg tonight's #caschat#mathscpdchat :-D Lots to think about!
Bob Higham@Bob_Higham
A YEAR AGO
@jonwitts @cas_london_crc @suesentance must remember to take a bucket to code club afterhalf term #caschat #mathscpdchat
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Miles Berry@mberry
A YEAR AGO
@Mr_Comp_Sci Yes. Me too. @martincaddy @clcsimon @cas_london_crc #caschat#mathscpdchat
Rachael Coultart@rcoultart
A YEAR AGO
@Bob_Higham @jonwitts @cas_london_crc @suesentance I'll be doing the same thing! Helpedme understand it too ;o) #caschat #mathscpdchat
Jon Witts@jonwitts
A YEAR AGO
@MrEliotWilliams @cas_london_crc @mathscpdchat Yes following two columns on Tweetdeckis hard going ;-) #caschat #mathscpdchat
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@cas_london_crc @mathscpdchat OK, so who's going to @Storify ? Game of rock, paperscissors anyone? :D #caschat #mathscpdchat
Tim Brady@Pearson_CS
A YEAR AGO
RT mberry: .uclknowledgelab ScratchMaths materials now available! Yay!ucl.ac.uk/ioe/research/p… #caschat #mathscpdchat cc scratch Bootstrap…
Simon Johnson@clcsimon
A YEAR AGO
@MrEliotWilliams @cas_london_crc @mathscpdchat Try moderating :D :D :D #caschat#mathscpdchat