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February 19531

This is the f irst issue of"THEEXPERIMENTER"a monthly publication to be sent out to everymember of THEEXPERIMENTALAIRCRAFTOWNERSANDPILOTS ASSOCIATION and interested agencies.This association has been in the planningstages since November 1951. A number of meet-ings were held at Curtiss Wright Airport inMilwaukee over a period of a year. We foundthat enough interest was shown by people toform a non-profit organization to encouragethe developement of any type of aircraft byindividuals through experimentation n and homebuilding.Our January 26th meeting at Curtiss WrightAirport gave us some very sound ideas and avery good representation. We were fortunatein having. MR. A HAUGERI, C.A.A. KAI'.? "Si-:-A17C3 BISECTOR. for this: area, present rnH v.-eknov/ with the help of individuals in positionssuch as his will make for a stronger organiza-tion,, HH* 3LVJ33RI was called upon to reive hisideas on such an organization which were veryfavorable and brought us up to date en pro-cedures used by C.A.A. in issuing airworthi-ness certificatoo for experimental, uircruft.I know that his talk enlightened and encour-aged all of us. After &R. IIAUG3RI completedhis talk a vote was taken of all enthusiastspresent to form an organization. It was unan-imously voted in favor of 'starting an experi-mental aircraft association.A move was made and the motion was secondedto elect PAUL POBEREZNY Milwaukee as Presi-dent; CARL SCHULTZ, Kales Corners,' Wisconsin-as Vice President and ROBERT ITOLHTSKEt Milwau-kee as Secretary & Treasurer.The name of this organization was opened todiscussion with the possibility of shorteningit. It was agreed: upon that a vote would betaken on a permanent name for the organizationat the next meeting.The newly elected officers are to prepare aconstitution and by-laws for approval by mem-bers at the next meeting and also informationconcerning incorporation. 'Figures of $3.00 and $5.00 membership feesr/as the topic of discussion and will be votedupon at the next meeting, February 33rd, 'atCurtiss T/right Airport, Hilv/aukee. It was sug-gested that either the first or t'

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. ORGANIZATION (continued)V0ur first meeting to.organize an association"and- to elebt officers was held January 26,1953'at 8:00 P.M. 'at Curtiss Wright Airport,Milwaukee. We had an attendance of 31 peopleand because of distance, ten v/ere not able toattend. We had individuals in attendance'frbm Illinois and various parts of Wisconsin,17e have individuals interested in this organ-ization as far away as Arkansas, Ohio, Conn-ecticut and Illinois. We believe that it willexpand to other states in the country.The meeting was adjourned at.10 P.K. whichenabled all members to participate in .much

conversation concerning airplanes which last-ed until midnight. It was voted upon thatmembership be open to anyone interested inexperimental aircraft.We will publish a condensed form monthly ofthe minutes of each meeting so that individu-als of this association who cannot attendmeetings due to di'stcince or other reasons arein the know, IN AND AROUND THE AIRCRAFT SHOPS

We see that the boys are really going totown with their.building so we have decidedto bring some of the construction'to light ineach edition of the EXPERDENT.*.;., unt.?l wehave covered all projects.First, going -down to SUPRLSOD AIRCRAFT SER-VICE at Hlmhurst, Illinois we find that CARL"TIETZ .and his boys have completed modifi-cation on their Super Cruiser and have madea real performing aircraft out of it - "theytook' over where th,e manufacturer left off. Itis experimenting such 'as that, that will ad-vance private aviation. Good \7ork Fellas. Wealso received word from BOB IRVING and JUTDICKSON of Dayton, Ohio and Y/est Alexandria,Ohio that they have completed a Knight Twis-ter and are planning a midget jet, "That" issomething we are anxious to see. I .took, apeek through tKe window of our vice presidentsgarage this afternoon and found that he hasthe fin, rudder and stabilizer on the fuse-lage of his folding wing ship, I understandfrom his customers that he ,spends more timerunning out-to look at airplanes flying bythen working on cars, HOT/ about that Carl?Received a nice letter from HERB RAY23ER whois in the dusting business down in Stuttgart,Arko He sure sent along a lot of performancerequirements needed by the boys in the dust-ing business and he'says there'is a greatneed for a good duster, airplanea so there isa good project. I guess the "old man" of av~iation, ERV MILL3R of ^Milwaukee, who., built,that well known "Belly Plopper" is going todismantle- it and.build '.something he doesn'thave to lay down- to fly" As most of you knowthe "Belly Hopper"'is powered" with two power-ful Continental'A-40 engines and is flown ina prone position, BOB HUGGINS, another old--timer in aviation is coming along "slow" butsure with his midget racer over at BrownDeer'Airport just north'of Milwaukee. Yourstruly has sold' his ' clipped- wing Taylorcraftknown as "Little Poopdeok" to a flying club

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S'TOPS ( fcont inue-Vjat Stur-levant, '.Yisconsin and they ,re v^ryhappy with. it. They-say It feers" l ike fly-ing a j e t . I liave; "Little Audrey" (nn.ioedafter ixy wife) about ready fo r covering. Itv/ill ca a IS foot wing span midget shlo v/itha 85 R.P. engine and vith the help of BOB170LI3TSK2 will be in the air in three or fourmont.is. Also have a father and son team,BRUC7! ?id' Gil. PITT buildinp: a irJdget air-plane - 15 foo t . sp&Ji - in iny aH.r'age, '-"ave tckeep the cars outside now. 'Teard from T2UA)r!3COLS of the "famous Cole Brothers Air Shows".He says it looks like a good year for thep_ir shor.-- "business s,nd he and. 'r.?.s brother,KABIOK, (she international aerobatic- champ-ion) are rebuilding their ships tc meet thestrain of continuous aerobatic flying. Goodluck fellaso. Wells guess I bet te r no t ^.-trer T.o -'.o:-. * ;-.v-r i tory because we'v/ i l l have raooe gosai^ on

other fellows in the next issueo

PLAN JAIJ BREAK WITH GLIDER - What is be-lieved o have been an attempted jail break,planned on most modern lines, was hwartedat the San Quenin, Cal., prison recently,A glider in the course of construction ndnearing completion was discovered on theroof of the furniture factory. The parts forthe glider were obtained in the variousshops and the covering for the wings andfuselage was secured by purloining a boltof linen from the flag room.Officials say had the plane not been found,the builders could have glided easily overthe Y/alls and made their escape.0"UK:.; T}r:2 T Y iO CTi.\r:.XS. That's r.bf? planiililWHUkee has under ^ay to curb further ac-

cidents in iphich faulty plujies have been t?.blar.ie. Carl Herzfeidp chairman of the airservice committee of the city and ThomasZ?. Hamilton, airplane manufacturer^ haveolpjis completed vhereby every aviatrr willcoope.cate v/ith the city and county it: doingaway v/ith unworthy planes. All oilots v/illbe expected to be licensed before carryinc;passengerso Aviators here have agreed onthe plan and about & dozen ylanes will beaffected by the plan.There is no. aw here to bah risky-flyingbut it is expected that every pilot will a-bide by an agreement with the city to takeno risks. If this plan does not carry how-ever, then officials will proceed to obtaincounty^ legislation forcing plt,nes and pilotsto be licensed*

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THE

EXPERIMENTER

for Aircraft Building

A NEW ORGANIZATION

This is the first issue of THE EXPERIMENTER, a

monthly publication to be sent out to every member

of THE EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT OWNERS AND PILOTS

ASSOCIATION and interested agencies.

This association has been in the planning stages

since November 1951. A number of meetings were

held at Curtiss Wright Airport in Milwaukee over a

period of a year. We found that enough interest

was shown by people to form a non-profit

organization to encourage the development of any

type of aircraft by individuals through

experimentation and home building.

Our January 26th meeting at Curtiss Wright Airport

gave us some very sound ideas and a very good

representation. We were fortunate in having Mr.

Anthony Maugeri, CAA Maintenance Inspector for

this area, present and we know with the help of

individuals in positions such as his will make fora stronger organization. Mr. Maugeri was called

upon to give his ideas on such an organization,

which were very favorable and brought us up to

date on procedures used by CAA in issuing

airworthiness certificates for experimental

aircraft. I know that his talk enlightened and

encouraged all of us. After Mr. Maugeri completed

his talk a vote was taken of all enthusiasts

present to form an organization. It was

unanimously voted in favor of starting an

experimental aircraft association.

A move was made and the motion was seconded to

elect Paul Poberezny, Milwaukee as President; Carl

Schultz, Hales Corners, WI as Vice President and

Robert Nolinske, Milwaukee as Secretary &

Treasurer.

The name of this organization was opened to

discussion with the possibility of shortening it.

It was agreed upon that a vote would be taken on a

permanent name for the organization at the next

meeting.

The newly elected officers are to prepare a

constitution and by-laws for approval by members

at the next meeting and also informationconcerning incorporation.

Figures of $3.00 and $5.00 membership fees was the

topic of discussion and will be voted upon at the

next meeting, February 23rd, at Curtiss Wright

Airport, Milwaukee. It was suggested that either

the first or third Monday of the month be

designated a permanent meeting night. It will be

voted on at the next meeting and will be published

in the March issue of the EXPERIMENTER.

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MAYBE

The feeling is running high

that with a strong organization,

enough pressure could be brought

to bear in the right places that

some sort of limited

airworthiness certificate could

be issued time proven

experimental aircraft to enable

the owner to carry passengers.

It is a goal to work for.

LOOKING AHEAD

We have many good movies

scheduled for future meetings. A

16 mm sound film titled BIG

RACE FOR LITTLE WINGS is being

obtained from the GOODYEAR TIRE

AND RUBBER CO. for showing at our

next meeting, Feb. 23. It is a

film covering some of the

Goodyear Trophy races of the past

few years. Word has it from some

of the fellas that have seen this

movie-Its really terrific, so

dont miss it.

HELP

O.K. FELLAS! ITS UP TO YOU NOW.

We have a fine organization

started, but we still need more

members. Tell all of your

friends who are interested in

experimenting about our new

group. Bring them along to the

next meeting, or if unable to

attend, send their names and

addresses to the editor of this

publication. Remember, if we are

to have a strong organization we

will need a large membership of

interested individuals.

NEXT MEETING!!February 23, 1953 8:00 P.M.

Curtiss Wright Airport

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

Vol 1, No 1 Feb 1953

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ORGANIZATION (continued)

Our first meeting to organize an association and to

elect officers was held January 26, 1953 at 8:00 PM

at Curtiss Wright Airport, and because of distance,

ten were not able to attend. We had individuals in

attendance from Illinois and various parts of

Wisconsin. We have individuals interested in this

organization as far away as Arkansas, Ohio,

Connecticut and Illinois. We believe that it will

expand to other states in the country.

The meeting was adjourned at 10 PM, which enabled

all members to participate in much conversation

concerning airplanes, which lasted until midnight.

It was voted upon that membership be open to anyone

interested in experimental aircraft.

We will publish a condensed form monthly of the

minutes of each meeting so that individuals of this

association who cannot attend meetings due todistance or other reason are in the know.

IN AND AROUND THE AIRCRAFT SHOPS

We see that the boys are really going to town with

their building so we have decided to bring some of

the construction to light in each edition of the

EXPERIMENTER until we have covered all projects.

First, going down to SUPREME AIRCRAFT SERVICE at

Elmhurst, Illinois we find that CARL TIETZ and his

boys have completed modifications on their SuperCruiser and have made a real performing aircraft

out of it they took over where the manufacturer

left off. It is experimenting such as that, that

will advance private aviation. Good Work Fellas.

We also received word from BOB EWING and JIM

DICKSON of Dayton, Ohio and West Alexandria, Ohio

that they have completed a Knight Twister and are

planning a midget jet. That is something we are

anxious to see. I took a peek through the window

of our vice presidents garage this afternoon and

found that he has the fin, rudder and stabilizer on

the fuselage of his folding wing ship. I

understand from his customers that he spends more

time running out to look at airplanes flying by

then working on cars. How about that Carl?

Received a nice letter from HERB RAYNER who is in

the dusting business down in Stuttgart, Ark. He

sure sent along a lot of performance requirements

needed by the boys in the dusting business and he

says there is a great need for a good duster

airplane, so there is a good project. I guess the

old man of aviation, ERV MILLER of Milwaukee, who

built that well known Belly Flopper is going to

dismantle it and build something he doesnt have to

lay down to fly. As most of you know the Belly

Flopper is powered with two powerful Continental

A-40 engines and is flown in a prone position. BOBHUGGINS, another old timer in aviation is coming

along slow but sure with his midget racer over at

Brown Deer Airport just north of Milwaukee. Yours

truly has sold his clipped-wing Taylorcraft known

as Little Poopdeck to a flying club

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ANNUAL FLY-IN

Have heard some talk of starting an

annual get together possibly a

fly-in. Sure would be interesting

to see an airport full of ideas.

It would be especially interesting

for the fellas who are too far away

to attend regular meetings. We

will see what can be done about it.

A DEAL

Are you looking for a good deal

in materials, engine etc? Send us

your requirements and we will

publish it. (no charge) Our

members may be able to locate

whatever you need at a reasonable

price.

WANTED-NEWS

Any members or interested

individuals having news of interest

to the organization, please send it

to the editor.

OLD-TIMER

One of the few old aircraft around

is the Heath Parasol owned by PAUL

OLLENBURG of Milwaukee. At presentit is being recovered at Brown Dear

Airport north of Milwaukee. It is

powered by a Continental A-40

engine. The aircraft structure is

in excellent shape as it was very

well taken care of while in years

of storage. The aircraft is

licensable and should give Paul

many good hours of service. We

will be glad to see that blue and

yellow ship in the air.

THANKS

We want to thank our wives AUDREY

and LOIS for the time they spent

in making our first publication

possible.

The Editors

NEXT MEETINGFebruary 23, 1953 8:00 P.M.

Curtiss Wright Airport

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

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SHOPS (continued)

at Sturdevant, Wisconsin and they are very happy

with it. They say it feels like flying a jet. I

have Little Audrey (named after my wife) about

ready for covering. It will be an 18 foot wing

span midget ship with an 85 H.P. engine and with

the help of BOB NOLINSKE will be in the air in

three or four month. Also have a father and son

team, BRUCE and GIL PITT building a midget airplane

15 foot span in my garage. Have to keep the

cars outside now. Heard from DUANE COLE of the

Famous Cole Brothers Air Shows. He says it looks

like a good year for the air show business and he

and his brother, MARION, (the international

aerobatic champion) are rebuilding their ships to

meet the strain of continuous aerobatic flying.

Good luck fellas.

Well, guess I better not cover too much territory

because we will have more gossip on other fellowsin the next issue.

PAUL (Poopdeck) POBEREZNY

26 YEARS AGO IN AVIATION-1927

PLAN JAIL BREAK WITH GLIDER What is believed to

have been an attempted jail break planned on most

modern lines, was thwarted at the San Quentin,

Cal., prison recently.

A glider in the course of construction and nearing

completion was discovered on the roof of the

furniture factory. The parts for the glider wereobtained in the various shops and the covering for

the wings and fuselage was secured by purloining a

bolt of linen from the flag room.

Officials say had the plane not been found, the

builders could have glided easily over the walls

and made their escape.

JUNK THE FLYING CRATES

Thats the plan Milwaukee has under way to curb

further accidents in which faulty planes have been

to blame. Carl Herzfeld, chairman of the air

service committee of the city, and Thomas F.

Hamilton, airplane manufacturer, have plans

completed whereby every aviator will cooperate with

the city and county in doing away with unworthy

planes. All pilots will be expected to be licensed

before carrying passengers. Aviators here have

agreed on the plan and about a dozen planes will be

affected by the plan.

There is no law here to ban risky flying, but it is

WHERE TO BUY

Spring Steel available for landing

gear 3/8 x 5 any length cost

for average complete gear

approximately $5.00. BABCOCK AUTO

SPRING CO. 1227 N. Jefferson

Street Milwaukee, Wis.

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TUBING 1020 or 4130 assorted

sizes at 1939 net prices. MIDWEST

AIRWAYS -- Gen. Mitchell Field,

Milw, Wisconsin

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WANTED

WANTED 500 x 5 or 400 x 4 wheels

complete. Also 85 or 125 H.P.

engine. BRUCE PITT, Route 4 Box

362, Milwaukee 14, Wis.

Brake cylinders (2) suitable for

midget. Paul Poberezny 3801 S. 56th

., Milwaukee Wisconsin.

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FOR SALE

Engine Continental A-65.

Excellent running condition.

Complete - $75.00. G.E. Krohn %

Midwest Airways, General Mitchell

Field, Milwaukee, Wis.

THE EXPERIMENTER

Published monthly at

3801 S. 56th St.

Milwaukee 14, Wis.

Closing date for ads and news items

is the 10th day of each month.

NEXT MEETING !!

February 23, 1953 8:00 P.M.

Curtiss Wright Airport

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

plan does not carry however, then officials will

proceed to obtain county legislation forcing planes

and pilots to be licensed.

BUILD AND FLY SAFELY

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