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LPs are feeling the pressure of startups not finding exits Posted May 9, 2016 by Matthew Lynley All the energy for venture funds flows from LPs — the money goes from LPs to partners at funds, which in turn invest in startups. But since the number of IPOs and exits has started to dry up, the pressure is starting to rise on LPs, and Venture Investment Associates’ Chris Douvos knows it. And he made it abundantly clear to investors on a panel at TechCrunch Disrupt NY today. “There’s this huge exit sphincter,” Douvos said. “So we’re pushing this capital out and we’re kind of feeding the snake, LPs give money to GPs, GPs give to startups, startups get liquid and it comes back to LPs and the cycle starts over again. When you’ve got this exit sphincter and the snake is getting packed fuller and fuller, it reminds me… for those of you familiar with the Wu Tang Clan there’s a song called Method Man where one of the methods of torture they talk about is, ‘I’m gonna sew your rectum shut and keep feeding you’, that’s what it’s like to be an LP today.” That’s not too surprising on a take of the current state of the technology market. There have been a fraction of a fraction of the number of technology IPOs the market typically sees in the first part of the

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Page 1: LPs are feeling the pressure of startups not finding exitsventureinvestmentassociates.com/art/news/TechCrunch Disrupt-May 2016.pdfabundantly clear to investors on a panel at TechCrunch

LPs are feeling the pressure of startups not finding exits PostedMay9,2016byMatthewLynley

AlltheenergyforventurefundsflowsfromLPs—themoneygoesfromLPstopartnersatfunds,whichinturninvestinstartups.ButsincethenumberofIPOsandexitshasstartedtodryup,thepressureisstartingtoriseonLPs,andVentureInvestmentAssociates’ChrisDouvosknowsit.AndhemadeitabundantlycleartoinvestorsonapanelatTechCrunchDisruptNYtoday.

“There’sthishugeexitsphincter,”Douvossaid.“Sowe’repushingthiscapitaloutandwe’rekindoffeedingthesnake,LPsgivemoneytoGPs,GPsgivetostartups,startupsgetliquidanditcomesbacktoLPsandthecyclestartsoveragain.Whenyou’vegotthisexitsphincterandthesnakeisgettingpackedfullerandfuller,itremindsme…forthoseofyoufamiliarwiththeWuTangClanthere’sasongcalledMethodManwhereoneofthemethodsoftorturetheytalkaboutis,‘I’mgonnasewyourrectumshutandkeepfeedingyou’,that’swhatit’sliketobeanLPtoday.”

That’snottoosurprisingonatakeofthecurrentstateofthetechnologymarket.TherehavebeenafractionofafractionofthenumberoftechnologyIPOsthemarkettypicallyseesinthefirstpartofthe

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year.Thatmeansthatliquidityforinvestors—and,inturn,LPs,hasstartedtostall,andthatmeansthatfundsmightstartlookingatalternativeassetclasses.

“Itusedtobeprivatecompanieswouldaspiretogopublic,”FirstRoundCapital’sJoshKopelmansaidonstage.“We’reattheraremomentintimeit’stheopposite.TheminorleagueballplayersaregettingpaidfarmorethantheMVPmajorleagueplayers.Untilthatworksitselfoutinthemarketit’sgonnacreateareallychallengingtimeforthesecompaniesvaluedintheprivatemarketstorealizeanythinginthepublicmarkets.”

Still,venturefundsarestillfindingwaystoraisenewhugefunds.Andreessen-Horowitz,forexample,istalkingtoinvestorsaboutraising$1.5billionforitslatestfund,andotherfundshavebeenabletoraisehundredsofmillions—ifnotbillions—innewfunds.Firmsseemtohaveshiftedtoraisingnewfundseverytwoyearsorso,whichisalsoputtingsomepressureonLPs.

“Alltheenergycomesfromus,iftheLPsstopshowingupthetreeswillwither,”Douvossaid.“Thatsoundsgrandiose,butoneofthechallengesisthepoolofLPcapitalisn’tinfinite,dollarsgoingintoVCcompeteattheinstitutionswherethesedollarscomefromagainstotherassetclasseswhat’smostattractive.Oneofthechallengesventurefacesisthefurthestoutmoney,they’rethelongestoption,andasaresultthere’salotofpressure.

Whileallthisishappening,venturefundsdon’tactuallylooktoobadonpaper.Inthepastfewyearsvaluationshaverisensignificantly,makingfundslookliketheywillhavegoodreturns—iftheyhavetheexitstobackitup.Andsofar,thoseexitshaven’tshownup,andLPsandfundsoffundsneedthoseexitstoshowupinordertoactualizetheirreturns.

Still,therearebuyers,likeApple,FacebookandGoogle.Butthosecompaniesarelookingformorestrategicfitsintermsoftech,talent,andfillingholes,Kopelmansaid.Andthatmeansthatcompaniesthathaven’tquitefiguredouttheirfundamentals,ortherightwaytovaluecompaniesagainstcomparables,that’smakingitchallengingforcompaniestofigureouthowtoexactlyvaluecompanies

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theymaypotentiallyacquire.

“There’sahighlevelof[M&A]activity,butIdon’tknowifthere’sahighlevelofdesiretopaypricesdivorcedfromfundamentals,”UnionSquareVentures’AndyWeissmansaidonstage.“Itseemsliketherewasmoreofthatinthepast,butit’slessnow.”

Whilefirmstalkaboutadownturn,anddroppingvaluations,itisn’tanywhereclosetowhatstruckthemarketaround2001and2002,Kopelmansaid.“Asthemarket’sgottenchoppyoverthelastcouplequarters,youhaveawholegenerationoffoundersandfunderswhohaveneverbeenthroughadownturn.Ifyou’rebeenintheindustryforthelast7yearsyou’veseenstraightup.Idon’tthinkit’severasbadaspeoplethinkitis.”

“Oneoftheirsecretsofsuccesshasbeengettingoffthebusonestoptooearlyratherthanonestoptoolate,”Douvossaid.“Butthattakescourage,mostinvestorslackcourage.Onceyousayntoafund,you’reforeverinthatGP’sbadgraces.”

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