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Page 1: Lesson 15 the us navy, vietnam, and limited war, 1964 1975

Sea Power and Maritime AffairsSea Power and Maritime Affairs

Lesson 15: The US Navy, Vietnam

and Limited War, 1964-1975

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Learning ObjectivesLearning Objectives

Know the role of the US Navy in the Vietnam War (1964-1975)

Comprehend the impact of the Vietnam War on the Navy’s force structure under Admiral Zumwalt during the Nixon administration.

Recall the reasons for the relative decline in the U.S. naval preeminence from 1962-1977.

Comprehend the differing naval policies of the U.S. and the Soviet Union and how those differences affected their resulting force structure.

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Republic of Vietnam(South)

U.S. Ally

Capital: Saigon

Democratic Republic of Vietnam(North)

CommunistCapital: Hanoi

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Lyndon Baines Lyndon Baines Johnson Johnson (LBJ)(LBJ) Succeeds Kennedy as

President after his assassination in Dallas in 1963.

Increases U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.

High level of restrictions put on military planners by his administration.

Concerned with “Great Society” and domestic politics.

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Robert S. Robert S. McNamaraMcNamara

Secretary of Defense in Kennedy and Johnson Administrations.

Use of mathematical models to calculate required military force in Vietnam.

Attempted to avoid escalation of the war by putting restrictions on military operations.

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Tonkin Gulf Incident - 1964 Tonkin Gulf Incident - 1964 U.S. Seventh Fleet operating off Vietnam coast

– Surveillance and covert operations against North Vietnam

Destroyers USS Maddox and USS Turner Joy:– Night attacks by North Vietnamese torpedo boats reported– Evidence supports North Vietnam’s claim that no torpedo boats

were present in the area

Carrier strikes ordered in retaliation

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Tonkin Gulf Incident

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Gulf of Tonkin ResolutionGulf of Tonkin Resolution

LBJ requests authority from Congress to increase U.S. involvement

Congressional approval for the President to take “all necessary measures to repel any armed attack” in Vietnam

Made him look good against Barry Goldwater

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Escalating Intervention - Escalating Intervention - 19651965 Johnson Administration goes to work after the election

MACV- Military Assistance Command Vietnam– Overall- General William Westmoreland

Naval Advisory Group– Sea Force– River Force– Junk Force

Task Forces

Ground war of attrition against North Vietnam begins.

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FLAMING DART

ROLLING THUNDER

MARKET TIME

GAME WARDEN

TF 77(CVs)

TF 77(CVs)

TF 115(WPBs, PCFs)

TF 116(PRBs)

Retaliatory strike on enlisted barracks

North Vietnamese bombing campaign

Coastal Interdiction

Mekong Delta Interdiction

SEALORDS TF 194(PRBs)

Interdiction in Mekong Delta on Cambodia border

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Westmoreland

and LBJ

Cam Ranh Bay

23 DEC ‘67

WESTY’s STRATEGY: “SEARCH AND DESTROY”MEASUREMENT: BODY BAGS

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““Rolling Thunder”Rolling Thunder”

Theory: punish north until it stops supporting V.C. in South

Reality: lasted intermittently until 31 OCT 68– Interrupted by 7 bombing halts which North

used to rebuild– 304,000 fighter bombers and 2,380 B-52

sortiesEvaluation

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“Rolling Thunder must go down in the history of aerial warfare as the most ambitious, wasteful, and ineffective campaign ever mounted. While damage was . . . done to

many targets in the North, no lasting objective was achieved. Hanoi emerged as the winner of Rolling

Thunder.” (CIA analyst quoted by COL Harry Summers, USA, Historical Atlas of the Vietnam War, p. 96)

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F-8 CRUSADER

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Douglas A-1 Skyraider - AD or “Able Dog”Douglas A-1 Skyraider - AD or “Able Dog”

“Spad” or “Sandy”“Spad” or “Sandy”

Flew close air support missions in Vietnam.

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USS Coral Sea launches A-4

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Douglas A-4 SkyhawkDouglas A-4 Skyhawk

Navy and Marine light attack aircraft in Vietnam.

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A-6A IntruderA-6A Intruder

Introduced in Vietnam. Navy and Marine carrier-

or land-based medium bomber.

Evades enemy radar by low level flight.

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F-4 PhantomF-4 Phantom U.S. Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps fighter aircraft

flown in Vietnam on fighter and attack missions

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Soviet-built MiG-19Soviet-built MiG-19

Used by North Vietnamese Air Force to defend against U.S. attacks during the Vietnam War.

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May 1965: Naval shore bombardment begins against South Vietnam as supplement to air strikes; in support of military operations along the coast; first since Korean War.

NGF, USS Carronade

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Overall Conclusions on Overall Conclusions on Naval AviationNaval Aviation

Cost were too high Results were uncertain POW suffering

N. Vietnam SAM sites

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Coastal Patrol Force: Operation “Market Time”(March 1965- December 1972)

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““Market Time”Market Time”

Coastal interdiction of supplies moved from N. Vietnam to South Vietnam by small boats, etc.

Improvised Force– 84 PCF armed with .50 cal machine guns and 81-mm

mortar.– Destroyers, destroyer escorts, minesweepers– Coast Guard Cutters

Not unlike North’s blockade during Civil War!

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Evaluation as outstandingly effective:“From January to July 1967, Market Time forces . . . inspected or boarded more than 700,000 vessels in South Vietnamese waters. Except for five enemy ships [sighted during Tet] . . . no other enemy trawlers were spotted from July 1967 to August 1969.” (COL Harry Summers, USA, Historical Atlas of the Vietnam War, p. 150)

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.50 caliber machine guns of PCF

Cautious evaluation: “There are no statistics to show what MARKET TIME did not interdict. At the very least, MARKET TIME forced the enemy to be even more inventive and creative in bringing into the South the tools of war.” (Symonds, Historical Atlas, p. 210)

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S. Viet “Junk Boat Force” operating during Market Time

Certain evaluation: Forced North Vietnam to expand and rely more heavily on the overland Ho Chi Minh Trail running south through Laos and Cambodia.

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Mobile Riverine Force of the “Brown Water Navy”Operation “Game Warden” (December 1965- September

1968

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Brown Water NavyBrown Water Navy Deny use of Mekong River and tributaries Specially designed and improvised small craft

– 50 FT, aluminum hull fast patrol craft (PCFs), .50 cal and 81-mm

– 31 ft, fiberglass, river patrol boat. ~ 25 knots– Monitors, armored troop carriers (ATC)

Highly Dangerous – Less effective and more costly than coastal interdiction– Turned over to S. Vietnamese during “Vietnamization” in

Feb 69

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River Patrol Boat

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Huey Landing on ATC

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Monitor leading ATCs

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Assault Support Patrol Boat…..sinking…

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SEALS on a Assault Boat on Mekong Delta

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Marines unloading from at ATC for a River Assault

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Tet and Its Impact (30 Jan 1968 – 20 Jan 1969)“The Turning Point in the War”

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Tet Offensive -- January 1968Tet Offensive -- January 1968

Conceived by N. Vietnam’s General Vo Nguyen Giap, architect of Dien Bien Phu (1954 defeat of France)

Combine attack by N Vietnamese and Vietcong– Goal: popular uprising (failed)– Achieve Dien Bien Phu- like tactical battlefield victory for

propaganda purposes Scope

– Struck at 36 of 44 provincial capital and military bases (most notably, Hue and Khe Sanh)

– 100 other villages

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“What the Hell’s Ho Chi Minh Doing Answering Our Saigon Embassy Phone. . . ?”

Paul Conrad, Los Angles Times, 1968

General Vo Nguyen GiapFormer history teacher

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TET in and near Saigon0245 Jan. 31 - 7 Mar. 1968

NVA and VC attack city-wide,especially against US Embassyand MACV HQ(Gen. Westmoreland),near Tan Son Nhut airbase.

Also at Bin Hoa airbase(NE of Saigon), busiestin world. (875,000landings & takeoffs per year)

Enemy repulsed by strategic/tactical foresight ofLGEN Fred C. Weyand,veteran of China-Burma-India campaign, WW II

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A Vietcong (VC) corpse lies on the US Embassy grounds in Saigon

shortly after the Tet attack.(U.S. Army photo)

“We fought from house tohouse and street to street.When we had to go inside ahouse we’d just shoot insidewith our rifles and then theM-60. Then we had to go upinto the house and make surethey were dead. We didn’thave no flame-throwers.I didn’t see no tanks inSaigon. They didn’t havethings like you see in themovies on TV about WorldWar II. It surprised me.”

-------U.S. soldier

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Marines in the Tet Marines in the Tet OffensiveOffensive

Hue City– Ancient capital of Vietnam.– Held by North Vietnamese and Viet Cong for 26 days.– Retaken by Marines and South Vietnamese forces.

Street fighting from house to house.

Khe Sanh– Important base in northern South Vietnam near DMZ.– 6,000 Marines under siege by 20,000 North Vietnamese Army

regular troops.– Supplied by air drops and supported with air strikes.– Eventually abandoned.

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Hue CityHue City

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Tet at Hue0330, 31 Jan. - 2 Mar. 1968

“The twenty-five day struggle forHue was the longest and bloodiestground action of the Tet offensive,and, quite possibly, the longestand bloodiest single action of theSecond Indochina War.”

--- Don Oberdorfer author of Tet!, first-hand witness

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Temple for victims of the resistance against French colonial rule, Hue.

Marines patrolstreets

Hue, Feb. 1968(USMC photo)

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Khe SanhKhe Sanh

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Tet at Khe Sanh 21 Jan. - 8 Apr. 1968 “I don’t want any damn Dinbinfoo.”

Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson toGen. Earle Wheeler, CJCS,as 77-day siege began

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Immediate ResultsImmediate Results Vietcong forces assaulted and entered U.S. Embassy,

Saigon– General Westmoreland, MACV declared victory in Saigon by

0915, 30 January.

After initial shock, U.S./ARVN repelled all NVA forces.

No popular uprising- disappointment to Giap, BUT:

Dismay in USA

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Short ResultsShort Results No popular uprising Dismay in USA President Johnson renounces candidacy for re-

election (31 Mar 68) Secretary of Defense, McNamara, forced to

resign General Westmoreland replaced by General

Abrams as U.S. overall commander in Vietnam. VADM Zumwalt appointed Commander, U.S.

naval Forces , Vietnam ( Sept 68)– MERGES Game Warden and Mobile Riverine Force

into SEALORDS

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PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

1972

NIXON

vs.

SEN. GEORGE McGOVERN

--- 60 % of popular vote--- 49 states

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

1972

NIXON

vs.

SEN. GEORGE McGOVERN

--- 60 % of popular vote--- 49 states

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“The bastards have neverbeen bombed like they’regoing to be bombedthis time.”---President Richard M. Nixon March 1972

Linebacker I (ended 22 Oct.):40,000 sorties; 125,000 tons of bombs

Linebacker II (18-26 Dec. 1972)742 B-52, 640 fighter-bomber sorties15 B-52s lost!!!

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VADM Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr. Commander, U.S. Forces, Vietnam

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ANTI-WAR MOVEMENTChicago, Demo. Convention Aug. 1968Kent State University4 May 1970

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VietnamizationVietnamization Turning over the war to S. Vietnamese with withdrawing

American forces as quickly as possible U.S. forces reduced from over 500,000 combat/combat

support to a handful of advisors. Admiral Zumwalt, Jr. - withdrawal of naval forces Hanoi signed Paris Accords (Jan 1973) calling for cease-

fire throughout S. Vietnam and release of POWs– Nixon opens to China and conducts arms limitation summit with

Moscow– Peace negotiations in Paris - Henry Kissinger.

U.S. withdraws forces from South VietnamNorth Vietnam agrees to allow South Vietnam to decide government

in a free election and to release American POWs

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“Vastly different from last two years of Korea:

U.S. was now withdrawing before indigenous forces were built-up and able to stand on their own.” -- COL Harry Summers

Marine regimental commander to Marine LCOL Bernard Trainor, 1969: “We’re no longer here to win, we’re merely ‘campaigning,’ so keep the casualties down.”-- from Marine retired MGEN Bernard Trainor, author of General’s War on Gulf

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“Vietnamization offered a way to get the United States, the Republicans, Richard Nixon, and most important, [Secretary of Defense] Melvin Laird, out of the Vietnam quagmire. Whether it would work or not was secondary. It was an exit.” -- LGEN Philip Davidson

Vietnamization was “the model or paradigm of a new strategy of retreat.” -- Norman Podhoretz, editor of Commentary

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1972: “The fighting wasn’t over, but the war was won . . . There came a later point at which the war was no longer won.” -- Lewis Sorley, author of Thunderbolt: General Creighton Abrams and the Army of His Times (

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Watching South Vietnam Go Watching South Vietnam Go Under (1973-1975)Under (1973-1975)

Congress rejected any further military intervention in Southeast Asia and refused to appropriate the full $1 billion in military aid promised South Vietnam by the Nixon administration

30 April 1975: North Vietnamese forces overran South Vietnam; South Vietnam’s president proclaimed unconditional surrender;

U.S. Embassy in Saigon evacuated, the final few Americans leaving by helicopter from the Embassy’s roof. In operations Eagle Pull and Frequent Wind, 7th Fleet evacuates remaining Americans and foreign nationals

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Postwar Problems of U.S. NavyPostwar Problems of U.S. Navy

Impact of Vietnam– Hiatus in shipbuilding– Inadequate Funding– High personnel costs

Aging WWII fleet Skyrocketing procurement

costs– Bigger, more sophisticated

ships– Push for Nuke power:

Admiral Rickover

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Shaping the Navy after VietnamShaping the Navy after Vietnam

ADM Elmo Zumwalt, Jr. “High-low” mix

– Missions: Sea Control Power Projection

– High End: Carriers– Low End: Inexpensive platforms,

escort duty etc.– “Sea Control Ship”

Other Issues– Equal opportunity for minorities– Adm Rickover– Differences with Nixon

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Comparison Between U.S. Comparison Between U.S. and Soviet Navies and Soviet Navies

Categories of differences: number of major ships, number of ships by type, tonnage by type fleets, operational ship days out of area

Reasons: geography, internal defense, perceived threats, naval background, economic approach to ship building

Navies configured for different wars

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Conclusions from VietnamConclusions from Vietnam

The Vietnam conflict has impacted every use of the U.S. military since that time.– Cost to American people dramatic– Vietnam’s civil war became America’s civil

convulsion

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Learning ObjectivesLearning Objectives

Know the Navy’s roles in the Vietnam War (1964-1974)

Comprehend the impact of the Vietnam War on the Navy’s force structure under Admiral Zumwalt during the Nixon administration.

Recall the reasons for the relative decline in the U.S. naval preeminence from 1962-1977.

Comprehend the differing naval policies of the U.S. and the Soviet Union and how those differences affected their resulting force structure.

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Next time: The Era of Retrenchment: Presidents Ford

and Carter, 1974-1980