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LemonadeIETF 62

Eric Burgereburger@brooktrout.com

Glenn Parsonsgparsons@nortel.com

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Scribes and Transcribes

Peter & Larry for Wednesday

?? For Thursday

JABBER detailsRoom: lemonade Server: ietf.xmpp.orgLogs: http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-logs/lemonade@ietf.xmpp.org/

mp3 detailsThursday: http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf627.m3u

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Chair’s Agenda

Wednesday• Status review

– Goals, S2S Notification, MMS, Future Delivery, – Pull Trio (cooked and updated)

• Security

Thursday• Next Steps

– Draft Publication– Profile (phase 1)– Media Conversion

• Goals (phase 2) • Deployment Challenges (L3/L7 Interaction)

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Next Steps: Finished Work

• Future Delivery

• Server-to-Server Notification Requirements

• MMS Mapping

• All Same Dates:– Nits Review: Greg White: 3/18– WG Write-Up: 3/25

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Next Steps: Pull Trio

• URLAUTH– Nits Review: Greg

White: 3/18– WG Write-up: 3/25

• BURL– New Draft: Chris

Newman: 3/14– Nits Review: Greg

White: 3/18– WG Write-up: 3/25

• CATENATE– New Draft: Pete

Resnick: 3/18– WGLC: 3/21– Nits Review: Greg

White: 3/25– WGLC Close &

Write-up: 4/4

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Next Steps: Mobile Environment

• Quick Reconnect– Updated Draft (Security Considerations)– Corby Wilson (Alexey?)– Due 3/18– WGLC: 3/21– Nits Review: Greg White: 3/25– WGLC Close & Write-up: 4/4

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Lemonade Profile

• Updated Draft Incorporating Current Understandings: Stephane Maes: 3/25

• WGLC: 3/28• Nits Review: Greg White: 4/4• WGLC Close & Write-up: 4/11

• No Need to Wait for Documents Before Updating Profile

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Access to Signed and Encrypted Content

• Forming Design Team– Lemonade, Security Experts

• Volunteers– Shawn Turner– Alexey Melnikov– Barry Leiba– Corby Wilson– Randy Gellens– Pete Resnick (in IAB role)

• EKR and Sam Volunteered to Review Specific Drafts

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Following Steps

• Blob Media Conversion– Need Document Editor

• Streaming Media Conversion– Have Approach; May Need New Document

Editor if Current Editor Doesn’t Deliver

• Update Profile to Wrap It All Up

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Goals 2

• Dealing with Intermediaries

• Dealing with Bad IT Practices

• Body Part Compression

• Filtering, Views

• S2C Notifications

• Dealing with ???

• Update Profile to Wrap It All Up

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Dates

• Do we have buy-in for Dates?

• If too busy, need to know now, as we will find new editors.

• If dates missed, we will find new editors.

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Charter Dates

Goals and Milestones:Oct 04 Submit LEMONADE goals and use-cases specification to the

IESG

Oct 04 Submit server to server notification requirements to the IESG

Nov 04 Submit translation to other messaging systems to the IESG

Apr 05 Submit IMAP/SUBMIT extensions for forward without download to IESG

Apr 05 Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to the IESG

Jun 05 Submit IMAP4 extensions for streaming multimedia to the IESG

Aug 05 Submit server to server notification protocol to the IESG

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Thanks!• Mail List:

– General Discussion: lemonade@ietf.org

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– Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/lemonade/

• Supplemental Work Group Page – http://flyingfox.snowshore.com/i-d/lemonade/