lead in – or not? graham r foster professor of hepatology queen marys university of london
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Lead in – or NOT?
Graham R FosterProfessor of Hepatology
Queen Marys University of London
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Lead in or NOT?Conflicts of interest
• I have received funding from Janssen, Merck, Roche, Gilead, BMS, BI, Abbott.
• The views expressed here are for the purposes of argument (and may, or may not) reflect my own views.
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Why lead in is of no value
• The evidence
• The convenience of starting therapy
• The dangers of lead-in
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Why lead in is of no value
• The evidence
• The convenience of starting therapy
• The dangers of lead-in
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REALIZE (Telaprevir): Study Design (N=662)
484 160 128Weeks
72
T12/PR48 Peg-IFN + RBVTVR + Peg-IFN + RBV
Pbo + Peg-IFN +
RBV N=266Follow-up
SVR assessment
TVR + Peg-IFN + RBV Peg-IFN + RBV
LI T12/PR48N=264
Follow-upPbo +
Peg-IFN + RBV
PR48 (control) Pbo + Peg-IFN + RBV Peg-IFN + RBV
N=132Follow-up
Zeuzem NEJM 2011
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REALIZE (Telaprevir): Study Design (N=662)
484 160 128Weeks
72
T12/PR48 Peg-IFN + RBVTVR + Peg-IFN + RBV
Pbo + Peg-IFN +
RBV N=266Follow-up
SVR assessment
TVR + Peg-IFN + RBV Peg-IFN + RBV
LI T12/PR48N=264
Follow-upPbo +
Peg-IFN + RBV
PR48 (control) Pbo + Peg-IFN + RBV Peg-IFN + RBV
N=132Follow-up
Zeuzem NEJM 2011
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Impact of lead in (treatment experienced)
Series10
20
40
60
80
100
24
8883
9
41 41
SVR
(%)
PR48
16/68
T12/PR48
121/145
LI T12/PR48
124/141n/N=
PR48
6/64
T12/PR48
50/121
LI T12/PR48
51/123
Prior relapsers Prior non-responders(prior partial responders
+ null responders)
* *
**
Zeuzem S, et al. J Hepatol 2011;54(Suppl. 1):S3*p<0.001 vs PR48
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Why lead in is of no value
• The only proper evaluation of lead-in shows no benefit
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Controlled trial of 3 day lead in (SILEN-C1 (BI 201335))
n=71
n=69
n=143
n=146
PRPlacebo + PR
PR120mg QD LI BI 201335 + PRa
PR240mg QD BI 201335 + PR
a PR240mg QD LI BI 201335 + PR
D1 D4 Week 24 Week 48
Sulkowski MS, et al. Hepatology 2011;54(Suppl. S1): Abstract 226
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Controlled trial of 3 day lead in (SILEN-C1 (BI 201335))
n=71
n=69
n=143
n=146
PRPlacebo + PR
PR120mg QD LI BI 201335 + PRa
PR240mg QD BI 201335 + PR
a PR240mg QD LI BI 201335 + PR
D1 D4 Week 24 Week 48
Sulkowski MS, et al. Hepatology 2011;54(Suppl. S1): Abstract 226
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Controlled trial of 3 day lead in (SILEN-C1 (BI 201335))
16
56
8071
7873
87 83
40/71 49/69 103/142 118/14211/71 55/69 111/142 124/142
100
80
60
40
20
0Prop
ortio
n of
pati
ents
(%)
eRVR SVR
PR 120mg QD LI 240mg QD LI 240mg QD
Sulkowski MS, et al. Hepatology 2011;54(Suppl. S1): Abstract 226
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Why lead in is of no value
• The only proper evaluation of lead-in shows no benefit
• There is a suggestion that lead in may be harmful!
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Why lead in is of no value
• The evidence
• The convenience of starting therapy
• The dangers of lead-in
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Lead in is unpopular with patients
• Patients have waited 10 years for these drugs, now you want them to start with the old stuff?
• Patients don’t want to come back in four weeks and start again
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Lead in is unpopular with patients
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Lead in is unpopular with patients
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Lead in is unpopular with patients
• Patients want to start with the new therapy• Patients want the best treatment straight
away
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Why lead in is of no value
• The evidence
• The convenience of starting therapy
• The dangers of lead-in
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The Dangers of Lead In
• Lead-in may persuade you NOT to start the protease inhibitor
• (If your patient is HCV RNA negative at 4 weeks, would you start a PI?)
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How do patients fail therapy?
Detection limit
Relapse
Null response
Breakthrough
Adapted from Shiffman M. Curr Gastroenterol Rep 2006;8:46–52; Neumann A, et al. Science 1998;282:103–7; De Bruijne J, et al. Neth J Med 2008;66:311–22
Partial response
Treatment
Non-response
0 4 8 12 16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 68 72
HCV
RN
A le
vel
Weeks
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How do patients fail therapy?
Detection limit
Relapse
Null response
Breakthrough
Adapted from Shiffman M. Curr Gastroenterol Rep 2006;8:46–52; Neumann A, et al. Science 1998;282:103–7; De Bruijne J, et al. Neth J Med 2008;66:311–22
Partial response
Treatment
Non-response
0 4 8 12 16 20 24 28 32 36 40 44 48 52 56 60 64 68 72
HCV
RN
A le
vel
Weeks
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Relapse – the hidden rocks
• You only know who is going to relapse when you stop therapy
• All Peg+ Riba relapsers will need re-treating
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What happens if 95% of RVR patients respond?
• What happens to those who fail?
Pre-treatmentprediction accuracy
95%Another 12 months + DAA
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• What happens to those who fail?
Pre-treatmentprediction accuracy
75%Another 12 months + DAAIs this cost effective?
What happens if 75% of RVR patients respond?
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Lead - in
• Lead in is of unproven value
• Lead in is unpopular with patients
• Lead in leads you to make bad treatment choices
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Lead in
• Lead – in is NOT being used in any of the current DAA trials
• Is lead in really such a good idea?