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Page 1: L AsAffiitivAction/EqoaOpportunit · 2016. 10. 21. · LA-1 UC IsM1 s a “WI Everh y A Acco FeQuo er ErM Jon i.,. yr-.-ir —— Lc L AlNaLa w ta L AlaM8 m e. This official electronic
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N e w m a n ,S a g a n ,a n dS h k l o v s k i 2 ” 5r e c a l lt h aa l e g e no s c i e ns a yt hE n rF ea st h eq u e s t i o n ,“ W h e r ea r et h e y ? ”d u r i n ga v i s it L oA l a m od u r it hS e cW oW os h o r t l yt h e r e a f t e r .F e r m i ’ sq u e s t i o nh a sb e e nm e n t i o n ei s e v e ro t hr e cp u b l i cbh i s t o r i c a lb a s i sf o rt h ea t t r i b u t i o nh a sn o tb e ee s t a b l i s h e dT h a nt t he x c e lm e moH a n sM a r k ,w h oh a dh e a r da r e t e l l i n ga tL o sA l a m oi t he a r l1 9 5 0w n o w l m oF ed i dm a k et h er e m a r kd u r i n ga l u n c h t i m ec o n v e r s a t i o na b o u1 9 5H ic o m p a nw eE mK o n o p i n s k i ,E d w a r dT e l l e r ,a n dH e r b e r tY o r kA lt h r eh a vp r o v i da c c o uo t i n c i

W eb e g i nw i t hK o n o p i n s k i :“ Ih a v eo n l yf r a g m e n t a rr e c o l l e c t ia b ot ho c c a. . . Id oh a v ea f a i r l yc l e a rm e m o r yo fh o wt h ed i s c u s s i oo e x t r a - t e r r e s t rg os t a r t e dE n r i c o ,E d w a r d ,H e r bY o r k ,a n dI w e r ew a l k i n gt I u n ca F u l lL o d g

“ W h e nI j o i n e dt h ep a r t y ,I f o u n db e i n gd i s c u s s ee v i d e na b of l y is a u cT hi m m e d i a t e l yb r o u g h tt om ym i n da c a r t o o nI h ar e c e n t ls e ei t hN eY o r ke x p l aw h yp u b l i ct r a s hc a n sw e r ed i s a p p e a r i n gf r o mt hs t r e e to N eY o rC i tT hN Y op aw e r em a k i n ga f u s sa b o u tt h a t .T h ec a r t o o ns h o w ew h aw ae v i d e na f l ys a us i tit h eb a c k g r o u n da n d ,s t r e a m i n gt o w a r di t ,‘ l i t t lg r e em e n( e n d o ww ia n t e nc a rt h et r a s hc a n s .M o r ea m u s i n gw a sF e r m i ’ sc o m m e n tt h ai w aa v e rr e a s o nt h es iia c c o u n t e df o rt w os e p a r a t ep h e n o m e n a :t hr e p o r to f l y i ns a u c ea w ea t hd i s a p po ft h et r a s hc a n s .T h e r ee n s u e da d i s c u s s i o na t w h e t h et hs a u c ec o us o m ee x cts p e e do fl i g h t .”

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“ Ir e m e m b e rh a v i n gw a l k e do v e rw i t hF e r ma no t h e rt t hF u l lL o df ol u nW hw ew a l k e do v e r ,t h e r ew a sa c o n v e r s a t i o nw h i cI b e l i e vt h a vb e eq u ib r ia s u p eo na s u b j e c to n l yv a g u e l yc o n n e c t e dw i t hs p a ct r a v e lI h a va v a gr e c o l l e cw hmn o tb ea c c u r a t e ,t h a tw et a l k e da b o u tf l y i n gs a u c e ra nt ho b v i os t a t e mt ht f l ys a u c e r sa r en o tr e a l .I a l s or e m e m b e rt h a tF e r me x p l i c i t lr a i st hq u e s t ia nI t hhd i r e c t e di ta tm e ,‘ E d w a r d ,w h a td oy o ut h i n k ?H op r o b a bi i t h aw i t ht hn et y ew es h a l lh a v ec l e a re v i d e n c eo fa m a t e r i a lo b j e cm o v i nf a s tt h al i g hI r e m et hma n s w e rw a s1 0 - 6 . ’F e r m is a i d ,‘ T h i si sm u c ht ol o wT hp r o b a b i li m ol it p e r( t h ew e l lk n o w nf i g u r ef o ra F e r m im i r a c l e . ) ”

K o n o p i n s k is a y st h a th ed o e sn o tr e c a l lt hn u m e r i c av a l u e“ e x c et ht hc h ar a p i d l ya sE d w a r da n dF e r m ib o u n c e da r g u m e n t so fe a co t h e”

T e l l e rc o n t i n u e s :“ T h ec o n v e r s a t i o n ,a c c o r d i n gt m m e m o rw ao nv a g uc o n nw i t ha s t r o n a u t i c sp a r t l yo na c c o u n to ff l y i n gs a u c e rm i g hb d ut e x t r a t e r r ep e o( h e r eI b e l i e v et h er e m a r k sw e r ep u r e l yn e g a t i v e )p a r t lb e c a ue x c e e dl i gv e l ow om a k ei n t e r s t e l l a rt r a v e lo n ed e g r e em o r er e a l

“ W et h e nt a l k e da b o u to t h e rt h i n g sw h i c hI d n or e m e m ba nm a ya p p r o x ie io fu ss a td o w nt o g e t h e rf o rl u n c h .” K o n o p i n s k ia nY o ra rq u ic e r tt ht hw eo nf o u ro ft h e m .

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“ I tw a sa f t e rw ew e r ea tt h el u n c h e o nt a b l e , ”K o n o p i n s kr e c a l l“ t hF e rs u r puw i t ht h eq u e s t i o n‘ b u tw h e r ei se v e r y b o d y ? ’I w ah iw ao p u t t ii t hd rl a uf ru

Y o r k ,w h od o e sn o tr e c a l lt h ep r e l i m i n a r yc o n v e r s a t i oo t hw a lt F u lL o dd or e m e m b e rt h a t“ v i r t u a l l ya p r o p o so fn o t h i n gF e r ms a i d‘ D o ny oe vw o nw he v e r y b o d yi s ? ’S o m e h o w. . . w ea l lk n e wh m e a ne x t r a - t e r r e s t r i a”

T e l l e rr e m e m b e r st h eq u e s t i o ni nm u c ht hs a mw a y“ T hd i s c u s sh an o t ht d wa s t r o n o m yo rw i t he x t r a t e r r e s t r i a lb e i n g s .I t h i ni w as o md o w n - t o - et o pT hi tm i d d l eo ft h i sc o n v e r s a t i o n ,F e r m ic a m eo uw i tt hq u i tu n e x p e cq u e s t‘ W hie v e r y b o d y ? ’. . . T h er e s u l to fh i sq u e s t i o nw ag e n e r aI a u g h t e r b e c ao t hs t r af at his p i t eo fF e r m i ’ sq u e s t i o nc o m i n gf r o mt h ec l e ab l u ee v e r y b oa r o ut ht a bs e etu n d e r s t a n da to n c et h a th ew a st a l k i n ga b o u te x t r a t e r r e s t r i al i f

“ Id on o tb e l i e v et h a tm u c hc a m eo ft h i sc o n v e r s a t i o ne x c ep e r h aa s t a t et htd i s t a n c e st ot h en e x tl o c a t i o no fl i v i n gb e i n g sm a y bv e rg r e aa nt h ai n d ea f a og a l a x yi sc o n c e r n e d ,w ea r el i v i n gs o m e w h e r ei t hs t i c k sf ar e m o vf rt hm e t r o pa r e ao ft h eg a l a c t i cc e n t e r .”

Y o r kb e l i e v e st h a tF e r m iw a ss o m e w h a tm o re x p a n s i va n“ f o l l ou w ia s e roc a l c u l a t i o n so nt h ep r o b a b i l i t yo fe a r t h l i k ep l a n e t st hp r o b a b i l io l ig i va e a rtp r o b a b i l i t yo fh u m a n sg i v e nl i f e ,t h el i k e l yr i sa nd u r a t i oo h i gt e c h n o la s o Hc o n c l u d e do nt h eb a s i so fs u c hc a l c u l a t i o n st h aw o u g ht h a vb e ev i s il oa a mt i m e so v e r .A SI r e c a l l ,h ew e n to nt oc o n c l u d et h at hr e a s ow h a d nb ev i s im ibt h a ti n t e r s t e l l a rf l i g h ti si m p o s s i b l e ,o r ,i fi i p o s s i b l ea l w a yj u d gt b n ow ot e f fo rt e c h n o l o g i c a lc i v i l i z a t i o nd o e s n ’ tl a s tl o ne n o u gf oi t h a p p e” Y oc o n f et b eh a z ya b o u tt h e s el a s tr e m a r k s .

I ns u m m a r y ,F e r m id i da s kt h eq u e s t i o n ,a np e r h a pn os u r p r i s i ni s ss td e bt o d a yw e r ep a r to ft h ed i s c u s s i o n .C e r t a i n l y ,t hl i no a r g u m et h aY or e m e mb ef a m i l i a ra d e c a d el a t e ra st h eD r a k e - G r e e n b a n kE q u a t i o n . 6 ’

A f i n a lp o i n t :t h ed a t eo ft h ec o n v e r s a t i o n .Y o ri c l e a r eo t hd a t“ Tc o n v e rwe i t h e ri nt h es u m m e ro f1 9 5 0 ,1 9 5 1 ,o r1 9 5 2 ,v e rp r o b a b l1 9 5a nt op l a. . . w hIw a sv i s i t i n gI A S Li nc o n n e c t i o nw i t ht h ef o r t h c o m i n gG r e e n h o ut e s t s — s p e c i ftG e o r g es h o t .” T h eG e o r g et e s to c c u r r e do nM a8 1 9 5 1s u g g e s t i1 9d a tS u r vc o r r e s p o n d e n c ef r o mt h et i m ei n d i c a t e st h aF e r mw aa a n n us u m mv i s id u rt y ei nq u e s t i o n .U n f o r t u n a t e l y ,a t t e n d a n c ea n dt r a v er e c o r df ot h oy e ah ab ed e s tH o w e v e r ,w eh a v et h ee v i d e n c eo ft h ec a r t o o nK o n o p i n s km e n t i o nD r ab A lD ui wp u b l i s h e di nt h eM a y2 0 ,1 9 5 0 ,i s s u eo fT h eN e wY o r k e rI s e e mq u ip r o b at hti n c i d e n to fF e r m i ’ sq u e s t i o no c c u r r e di nt hs u m m eo 1 9 5 0

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