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'Knowledge organisers' for maths: are they helpful,and if so for what topics, and what is a good format?Summary of the #mathscpdchat discussion hosted by @mrsdenyer on 10 October 2017

by ncetm 6 months ago

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Good evening! #mathscpdchat Talking tonight about knowledge organisers for students. Pleaseremember the hashtag and no polls ;-)

Who created Knowledge Organisers (KO)?

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Who created the KO? Can you tell us more? #mathscpdchat twitter.com/mathszest/stat…

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/mathszest/stat…

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/mathszest/stat…

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Must admit, not used, not sure what they are used for? #mathscpdchat

How do students use KOs?

19/04/2018 'Knowledge organisers' for maths: are they helpful, and if so for what topics, and what is a good format?

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Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest How do students use the KO? Is it per unit of work or longer lasting?#mathscpdchat twitter.com/mathszest/stat…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer The landscape of mathematics is so vast -I used to do mind maps of knowledge andunderstanding with pupils - could be similar? #mathscpdchat

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat Also trying to do a hwk quiz day hwk due in based on the “fill in the blanks”from the KO part of hwk

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer One for each unit of work so will have 12 by end of yr 7 #mathscpdchat

KOs for A level students

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

@pbrucemaths uses KO organisers for A-Level students . He is happy to share his exampleshere: pbrucemaths.weebly.com/a-level.html #mathscpdchat

McBec@MathsMcBec

6 MONTHS AGO

Our Science dept have introduced. Contain info about that topic and links to Maths etc as well.Like a revision guide. #mathscpdchat

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Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

As with all things developed over time (that gain new names) #mathscpdchattwitter.com/MathsladyScott…

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest have I got this right, hwk involves learning stuff in ko and practice questions?#mathscpdchat

Used at KS5 to help revision for each module

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer I used them at KS5 to help revise for each module. Ss could tally the bit they usedto highlight what they needed to revised #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer @pbrucemaths #mathscpdchat So like 'grouped' revision cards?

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MARY PARDOE @PARDOEMARY · 6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @mrsdenyer Yes, some of them are like that. This is one from Westwalestutors ...

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Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat - Mind maps of mathematics were what was in stdts heads +theconnections they had between aspects of maths that grew over time

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Although this year I’ve moved to a 11-16 school, nt sure how I would use them forlinear exams,I tried to b concise with them #mathscpdchat

Key is the word 'organiser'

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I think the clue is in the name "organiser", I see it has a framework to help students organisetheir knowledge. #mathscpdchat (revision etc

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Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths That’s what I’m trialling. The stuff would have already been learnt in lesson.This is for retention and retrieval #mathscpdchat

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Isn't this what notes in a book are for? #mathscpdchat

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @mrsdenyer Kind of, I tried to put all routine/needed content on to act asreminders when completing past papers #mathscpdchat

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest one might argue that retention and retrieval is part of the learning process...but Iknow what you mean! #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Some students make good notes, other students need help structuring their notes.#mathscpdchat twitter.com/MrMattock/stat…

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MARY PARDOE @PARDOEMARY · 6 MONTHS AGO

Some are lists of facts all of which pupils are expected to 'learn'/know by heart #mathscpdchat

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Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest maybe my question should have been: does hwk include time spent on ko andpractice questions? #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

One of my students could publish her "notes" book that she keeps alongside her subject books.She makes meticulous notes! #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat Last yr & this yr I'm trialling students making their own 'revisioncards' 1 group on playing cards, the other on index cards

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NIKKI @MATHSZEST · 6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths Does this help? Use KO to fill in gaps for their hwk #mathscpdchat

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Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer In essence that’s what I used them for, it was just a handy 1 pagedocument to help direct them to notes #mathscpdchat

McBec@MathsMcBec

6 MONTHS AGO

greatmathsteachingideas.com/2016/01/17/kno… This is @Maths_Master blog on KO.#mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat Agree-this is why I've found their learning improves when theywrite their own cards-which they keep in a small plastic A5file

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Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat I agree and I use “notes organisers” to supportstudents to do this. For some using book is not easy, so KO a stepping stone?

It's a way to get students to take responsibility for their own learning...

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

This is a good way to get students to take responsibility for their own learning. Do all studentsmanage? #mathscpdchat twitter.com/MathsladyScott…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@pbrucemaths @MrMattock @mrsdenyer I think your 'reference document' begins to helpstudents understand how much they need to understand at once #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Just beat me to it.... #mathscpdchat some nice examples here twitter.com/MathsMcBec/sta…

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/mathszest/stat…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat and I love being able to show different student's notes on thevisualiser to show what they write down to help them learn

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Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Definition of a knowledge organiser: Summary of what a student needs to know that must befitted onto an A4 sheet of paper. #mathscpdchat

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat this worked great with a yr11 group one year asthey could see the need. How do they keep their revision cards?

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat That quote was from heatherfblog.wordpress.com/2017/01/13/kno…

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Certainly visualisers are a great way to share student's work (and provide instant groupfeedback) #mathscpdchat twitter.com/MathsladyScott…

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MARY PARDOE @PARDOEMARY · 6 MONTHS AGO

This is a Knowledge Organiser from the Ebbsfleet Academy #mathscpdchat

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Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer But doesnt a KO just do it for them rather than supporting them to do it better#mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Yes that surprised me, some I thought wldn't make notes not only made notes &also used them effectively - has really helped #mathscpdchat

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat worth a gander? twitter.com/olivercaviglio…

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Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I think the process of creating them is important for students, like revision notes. However, inthe same way some 1/2 #mathscpdchat twitter.com/MrMattock/stat…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat Am beginning 'revision cards' in yr 7 - keep them inown A5 plastic popper file. If stdt is absent I write the notes for them!

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat and this one as well tothereal.wordpress.com/2017/09/09/kno…

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat can they take these home to use for hwk orrevision?

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

students need support structuring their note taking and revision notes 2/2 #mathscpdchattwitter.com/mrsdenyer/stat…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat Can see that maybe showing them a KO briefly mightprompt them to put all the info they need onto a sheet of A4 for exam rev?

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat this is interesting listening. twitter.com/Miss_Snuffy/st…

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Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat - yes students usually take books and revision cardshome for revision.

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer I did some to show them what I expected and then asked the class todo others. Some also re-did the ones I made #mathscpdchat

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

Might be worth checking out this podcast on them as well #mathscpdchattwitter.com/solomon_teach/…

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@PardoeMary This would concern me; seems to reduce some really important concepts toprocedures and promote purely instrumental approaches #mathscpdchat

Departmental CPD: what would you include in a KO?

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I think it would be great cpd for a department to sit down and plan out what they would includein a KO. #mathscpdchat

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MARY PARDOE @PARDOEMARY · 6 MONTHS AGO

Some see Knowledge Organisers as contributors (useful tools) in curriculum design!

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Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths #mathscpdchat Gr8 article-would say that some stdts 'mind maps' don't fitexpected models - which is an interesting insight into learning?

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer I think I would just prefer to teach pupils to make proper notes to be honest#mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths I must admit when I plan out a unit of work it looks more like the top diagram!#mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @PardoeMary #mathscpdchat Yet, having insight into how stdts organise theirown knowledge (if they did their own) is a real benefit to planning lessons?

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McBec@MathsMcBec

6 MONTHS AGO

I think it can all depend on how they are used. #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @PardoeMary #mathscpdchat Agree, important not only to include concepts butalso 'mathematical skill' and 'problem-solving strategies

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott would say a mindmap is not a ko, it is more an elaboration technique ratherthan the self quizzing kos aim for #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Does anyone provide students with an additional exercise book to make notes in?#mathscpdchat

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@pbrucemaths @mrsdenyer I like this, a kid summarising notes. But why a KO? Why not amind map or flash cards? #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths Do you use KO in your teaching? #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat It would be interesting to explore what each of usmeans by proper notes? Maybe we should share some stdt notes at some time?

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Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @pbrucemaths @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat I think it's just a buzz word for all ofthese things?

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer but that's you as an expert,KO are more for students (and non maths specialists?)to see what needs to be learnt? #mathscpdchat

MathsTeacher@MathsTeacherKYP

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer We encourage it at AL, although some students work on file paper. #mathscpdchat

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @PardoeMary They clearly didnt produce this as children, this was prepared.In answer to your point, isnt that what mind maps were for? #mathscpdchat

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer and then schemascan be formed that look more like the first diagram!#mathscpdchat

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer I like the idea of it on one page. A mind map would work in a similarway. I see them as a fancy index page for their notes #mathscpdchat

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer I’ve not used it for ks3 or 4 as I haven’t seen a convincing way to getit all on one page, so use flash cards #mathscpdchat

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Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer in very early days, bit of a disagreement in department as to what they should looklike. Other departments are #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I think we can all agree that students making their own comprehensive notes is a good thingwhatever form they take. #mathscpdchat

Nikki@mathszest

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrsdenyer #mathscpdchat playing devils advocate - could we use time taken tomake notes more effectively in lesson? More time for varied practice?

Mary Pardoe@PardoeMary

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths @MathsladyScott 'Self quizzing' using a KO feels a bit like reciting a poemyou've learn't, rather than explaining maths that you understand #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @PardoeMary #mathscpdchat danger of too much being presented all at once-weall need to build our own mathematical mind map so we can retrieve it easily

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@missfc_maths @pbrucemaths @mrsdenyer If the point is to map the mental schema we buildaround a topic then an artificial structure might not be beneficial? #mathscpdchat

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Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I can see the benefits of KO, we use marking stickers with key learning objectives for each unit.This would provide support #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Some in department use separate exercise book :-) #mathscpdchat

Marc Hayes@mrmarchayes

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @PardoeMary If the knowledge organiser represents the bare bones of what is tobe remembered, the concepts could be developed in lessons? #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat I know some schools who are working on keeping notes in One note forexample. twitter.com/AccomplishEdu/…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrPatelMaths #mathscpdchat Are you able to say what the benefits of 'self quizzing' are overvaried practice questions?

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

@mathszest @mrsdenyer I get what you mean but I would counter as to whether you think ithelps memory to actually have to make notes yourself? #mathscpdchat

Marc Hayes@mrmarchayes

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @PardoeMary Or rather ‘should’ be #mathscpdchat

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Rebecca Mead@becca_mead

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat I find this interesting as a non specialist. I've used them extensively in Science(didn't know to call them KOs mind you)

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat scaffolding students working in particular format might help students makebetter notes. twitter.com/teachingofsci/…

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrmarchayes @MrMattock @PardoeMary #mathscpdchat So then sort of a map of thelearning objectives for the unit of work?

Mary Pardoe@PardoeMary

6 MONTHS AGO

If you don't include the hashtag #mathscpdchat in your tweets others can't see them, and theywon't show-up in the record! E.g in replies!!

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mathszest @mrsdenyer I have an interesting memory - I make notes - then Iremember, although I never refer to the notes? How do others memorise? #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat what's not to love about maths with food as long as it gives them a hook toremember ;-) twitter.com/tessmaths/stat…

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Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @missfc_maths @mrsdenyer True, but hopefully it will direct them to correctplace in notes/files where they will see the holistic approach #mathscpdchat

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@teachingofsci @mrsdenyer Really like this idea of encouraging dialogue about learning#mathscpdchat

Marc Hayes@mrmarchayes

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @MrMattock @PardoeMary Yes - depending on the children’s currentunderstanding and skills. Possibly even interests but saying that from primary bias#mathscpdchat

TESS MATHS @TESSMATHS · 6 MONTHS AGO

and this...notes for revision...using a different medium... #mathscpdchat

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Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/missfc_maths/s…

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/pbrucemaths/st…

Marc Hayes@mrmarchayes

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @PardoeMary I agree. But perhaps more lesson time could be spent on developingunderstanding than practising procedural? #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

A useful cross curricular view, particularly with the amount of maths in the new sciencespecifications. #mathscpdchat twitter.com/teachingofsci/…

Mary Pardoe@PardoeMary

6 MONTHS AGO

@pbrucemaths @AccomplishEdu @MrMattock @mrsdenyer We can't see it cos you forgot the#mathscpdchat hashtag! A great pity!

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/pbrucemaths/st…

Eppie Howe@mrsehowe

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Used smth like this today for angle rules, low y11 needed a prompt on 1 sheet forease and revision guides not arrived yet #mathscpdchat

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TESS MATHS @TESSMATHS · 6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer exactly... this is truly the best student work ever..an accelerated learning

technique...design a food related revision tool #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/RTR3lBiyH7

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

Some good suggestions about the different ways Knowledge Organisers can be used... don'tforget the hashtag though! #mathscpdchat

Mary Pardoe@PardoeMary

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer This won't show-up in the record because it's in a RE-tweet! #mathscpdchat

Phil Bruce@pbrucemaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@PardoeMary @AccomplishEdu @MrMattock @mrsdenyer Sorry, I’m new to this! @mrsdenyerhas done it for me now! #mathscpdchat

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Rebecca Mead@becca_mead

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott @MrMattock @mathszest @mrsdenyer I memorise by remembering. Sayingit out loud is best! #mathscpdchat

Alan Patel@MrPatelMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MathsladyScott no, I wouldn't say that there are. I think both are beneficial #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat This is a cross between the two.... give students an outline - scaffolding theirown note creating skills. twitter.com/teachingofsci/…

Mr Mattock@MrMattock

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat twitter.com/MrMattock/stat…

P4M@MathsJF

6 MONTHS AGO

First year using online key notes at sites.google.com/view/revision-… & printed 20 page doctes.com/teaching-resou… #mathscpdchat that way all class work is a bonus & they havereference for hw & revision.

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PHIL BRUCE @PBRUCEMATHS · 6 MONTHS AGO

@PardoeMary here was the image #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/nHiV4rWd7C

Rebecca Mead@becca_mead

6 MONTHS AGO

#mathscpdchat As we do practice questions I'm getting my students to write what they need toknow "off by heart" on post it notes...

Mary Pardoe@PardoeMary

6 MONTHS AGO

@pbrucemaths @AccomplishEdu @MrMattock @mrsdenyer We understand! But your lovelyimage won't show-up in the record of the chat cos in her RE-tweet! You need to tweet it again!#mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

The last few minutes of #mathscpdchat on Knowledge Organisers. Chance for the last fewcomments.

19/04/2018 'Knowledge organisers' for maths: are they helpful, and if so for what topics, and what is a good format?

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Rebecca Mead@becca_mead

6 MONTHS AGO

And we are collecting them to revise from for the mocks. It's not a KO of course, but it makes apoint about knowledge #mathscpdchat

Tess Maths@tessmaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer and some just like to do it their way #mathscpdchat who cares what it lookslike...as long as its a 'knowledge organiser' surely?

Emmaface@emmaemma53

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer We're trying it for 1st time this year. Feel like I'm spending half my time telling Sswhich book they should be using! #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

We've not used Knowledge Organisers as A4 sheets but I think it is certainly a topic we willdiscuss in more detail. #mathscpdchat

Tess Maths@tessmaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@MrMattock @mrmarchayes @PardoeMary @Kris_Boulton which came first... understandingor fluency... Develop fluency first then curiosity can develop, for some #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I like the idea of supporting cross curricular maths in Science for example #mathscpdchat

19/04/2018 'Knowledge organisers' for maths: are they helpful, and if so for what topics, and what is a good format?

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MCBEC @MATHSMCBEC · 6 MONTHS AGO

@tessmaths @mrsdenyer One of my favourite homeworks to mark #mathscpdchat

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Marc Hayes@mrmarchayes

6 MONTHS AGO

@tessmaths @MrMattock @PardoeMary @Kris_Boulton I wonder how much this variesbetween children and between concepts. What works for some and what works for others etc#mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

That looks as if we've come to a natural pause in the conversation. Thank you to everyone whohas taken part in tonight's #mathscpdchat

Dawn@mrsdenyer

6 MONTHS AGO

I am sure that we will all continue to trial variations on knowledge organisers we can revisit thistopic again in the future. #mathscpdchat

19/04/2018 'Knowledge organisers' for maths: are they helpful, and if so for what topics, and what is a good format?

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TESS MATHS @TESSMATHS · 6 MONTHS AGO

why do we insist on squeezing irregular polygons pupils into a square box...give freedom in maths

to express how they want #mathscpdchat pic.twitter.com/lwLlvKiQoT

Heather Scott@MathsladyScott

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Thank you for hosting - I've really enjoyed our conversation tonight - has providedmuch food for thought #mathscpdchat

Alex J-Williams@Trudgeteacher

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer How does a KO connect topics and concepts. Knowledge is minimal in maths?#mathscpdchat

Mary Pardoe@PardoeMary

6 MONTHS AGO

Many thanks to Dawn, @mrsdenyer, for hosting #mathscpdchat tonight, & to all for variedviews, egs and ways of, & reasons for, using KOs!

19/04/2018 'Knowledge organisers' for maths: are they helpful, and if so for what topics, and what is a good format?

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JH@HumphreysMaths

6 MONTHS AGO

Never ever ever ever even heard of a knowledge organiser before #mathscpdchat

Tess Maths@tessmaths

6 MONTHS AGO

@Kris_Boulton @mrmarchayes @MrMattock @PardoeMary unless the student develops it (aKO) for themselves perhaps...makes sense of the concept or procedure in their own way...#mathscpdchat

Rufus@RufusWilliam

6 MONTHS AGO

@tessmaths #mathscpdchat Intellectual freedom arises as the product of discipline and hardword

Dave Bowman@Maths4ukplc

6 MONTHS AGO

@PardoeMary late to this but this gives a picture that maths is a set of rules with nounderstanding. Wrong message surely? #mathscpdchat

Grainne Byrd@ByrdGrainne

6 MONTHS AGO

@mrsdenyer Had one student 2 years ago with beautiful notebook. Copied for rest ofclass.#mathscpdchat

Geoff Wake@geoffwake1

6 MONTHS AGO

The Language of Maths in Science fro. @theASE should help hugelyase.org.uk/documents/lang… #highlyrecommended #mathscpdchattwitter.com/mrsdenyer/stat…