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TO SAC, DALLAS
7-40 PM VBR
FROM SAC, HOUSTON 44-939 2P
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JACKl LEON RUBY, AKA. LEE HARVEY OSWALD, A K DASH VICTIM DASH D E C E A S E D ~ CR.
RE HOUSTON TEL ELEVEN ZERO SIX PM, NOVEMBER \TWENTYFIVE,
LAST, REFLECTING INTERVIEW WITH MRS. PAUL COLGROVE, AKA.
NAJADA.I
ON DECEMBER THREE, INSTANT, CHElf ROBERT L. FORCHE,
POLICE DEPARTMENT, BAYTOWN TEXAS, A D V I S E D.. ....._ __....... .. . .
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SA FRANK IVEY THAT ABOUT MARCH, SIXTYTWO, HE WAS
INNTRODUCED TO RUBY IN DALLAS AT CARROUSEL CLUB BY MARY
HARTFORD. HE STATED HARTFORD IS POSSIBLY QUOTE MISTRESS
UNQUOTE OF RUBY IN THAT HE IS CONFIDENT THESE TWO WERE
O S E L Y ASSOCIATED UNTIL HE LAST HAD CONTACT WITH HER....-
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ABOUT MARCH SIXTYTWO. HE STATED HARTFORD WAS F D ~ ~ E R L Y.. .... ...... ....... .
THE SECRETARY TO CAPTAIN PAT GANNAWAY OFFICER IN CHARGE,. ,.
SPECIAL SERVICE BUREAU, OVER NARCOTICS, VICE AND CRIMINALI
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tnitdl i t t ~ :IDrpartmrnt of nstJOFFICE O TH ASSOCIATE ATTORN Y
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20530
1 f.r. Alan J . WebermanIndependent Research Assoc ia tes
6 Bleecker St r e e t
New York, New York 10012
Dear Mr. Weberman:
M Y 2 3 ~Re: Ap p e r l No. 80-0786
QJS : f HE:PLH
IYou appealed from the ac t ion o f the Federa l Bureau o f
Inves t iga t ion on your r eques t fo r access to i t s s e r i a l
number 62-33925-196.
After c a re fu l cons idera t ion o f your appea l I havedecided to af f i rm the i n i t i a l ac t i o n in t h i s base . All
of the withhe ld mater i a l pe r t a in ing to your r bques t i sc l a s s i f i ed and I am a f f i rming the d en i a l o f a(ccess to it
on the bas i s of 5 U.S.C. 552(b) (1}. This ma t e r i a l i s being
r e f e r r e d to the Department Review Committee for rev iew anddete rmina t ion whether it warrants cont inued c l a s s i f i c a t i o n
under Execut ive Order 12065. You w i l l be no i f i e d i t h e
Comm it tee s f i na l dec i s ion r e su l t s in t h e de 51ass i f i ca t i ono f any in fo rmat ion . This mater i a l i s no t p ~ r o p r i t e fo r
d isc re t ionary re lease .
Ju d i c i a l review o f my ac t ion on t h i s p ~ e l i s ava i l ab le
to you in the United S t a t e s D i s t r i c t Court fo r the j u d i c i a l
d i s t r i c t in which you res ide o r have your p r ~ n p l p lace of
bus iness or in the D i s t r i c t o f Columbia, w h ~ c h i s a l so wherethe record you seek i s located .
S incere ly
John H. Shenef i e ld Assoc ia te Attorney Genenal
By:
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·ltnitt t a t e ~ ltpartmrnt of 3 1 u ~ t i c tOFFICE OF THE ASSOCIATE TIORNEY GENERAL
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20530
Mr. Alan J . Weberman
Independent Research Associa tes
6 Bleecke r S t r ee tNew York New York 1 00 1 2
Dear Mr. Weberman:
M Y I 4 1980
This is to adv i se you t h a t your admin i s t ra t ive appeal
to the Associa te At to rney Genera l from the ac t ion by the
Federa l Bureau o f In v e s t i ga t i o n on yourreques t fo r in fo rmat ion from the f i l e s o f the Dep far tment o fJ u s t i c e was rece ived by th i s Off ice on Apri l 25 , _1980.
This Off ice has a su b s t a n t i a l backlog Of p e ~ d i n g appea l s _rece ived p r i o r to yours and a shor tage o f a t to rneys . In ana t t empt to a f fo rd each appe l l an t e q u a l _and i m p a r i a l t r e a tment
we have adopted a genera l p r ac t i c e o f as s i g n i n g appea l s to ·Off i ce a t to rneys in the approximate o rd e r o f rec di p t . Yourappeal has been ass igned number 80 - 0 786. Please e n t i o n t h i s
number in any fu tu re correspondence with t h i s Off ice concern ingt h i s sp e c i f i c appeal .
We wi n o t i f y y o u o f the d ec i s i o n o f the Associa te
A t to rn ey Genera l on your appeal as soon as we c a Then eces s i t y o f t h i s delay i s r e g re t t e d and your con t inu ingco u r t e s y i s ap p rec i a t ed .
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dmin i s t ra t ive S t a f ~ A s s i s t an t
Off ice o f Privacy and In format ion
Appeals
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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICEFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIONRECORDS DISCLOSURE COVER SHEET
FOI/PA BRANCHRECORDS MANAGEMENT DIVISIONWASHINGTON D. C. 20535
Subject of Request: 62,33925-196
FOIPA No. 79, 362 I /190-
Mr . Alan J . WebermanI nde penden t Resea rch Associates6 Bleecker Street
L u ~ M . , . e . v / v-y untPR 1 ~
New York, New York 10012
{elfDear Mr. Weberman: I
Enclosed are copies of documents from our f i l es . Where noted on the enclosed
documents, excis ions have been made in order to protect materials which are exemptedfrom disclosure by the following subsections of Ti t le 5 , United States Code, Section552 and Section 552a. The exemption number(s} indicated by a mark appearing in theblock to the l e f t of the subsection ci ted const i tu tes the authori t y for withholdingthe deleted mater ial . (See Form 4-694a, enclosed, for an explanation of these exempt ions) . You wil l note that whenever page(s) have been withheld in the i r en t i re tya sheet has been subst i tu ted l i s t ing the number of page(s) , the ident i ty of the i rlocat ion within the f i le , and exemptions under which they were withheld. When adelet ion i s made from the enclosed pages, the appropriate subsection exempting that
information i s noted opposite the delet ion.
Section 552 Section 552aI
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Pursuant to your request , 2 pages were reviewed and 0 pages werewithheld in the i r ent i re ty .
The decision to withhold exempt port ions of our re cords i s the responsib i l i tyof William H. Webster, Director of the FBI.
c J Unless noted and explained, a search of references to the subject of yourrequest the f i l es of o ther individuals or organizations, i . e . , see references,was not undertaken. To verify most see references requires information identifyingthe individual(s) and/or organizat ion(s) with whom the subject of your request associateand the time frame of the associa t ion s) . Should you des ire a search of see referenceplease advise of the de ta i l s describing the specif ic incident or occurrence andtime frame. Thereaf ter , e f fo r t s wil l be made to locate , re t r ieve and process anysuch record.
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.The Chicago Office advised that (PROTECTIDENTXTY), had stated that RU Y had t r e q u e n ~ c o n t a c t with policeand that RU Y had aade tr ips With the Dallas Chief t Police
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l not Jmow RUBY and that he h d never aade a t r ip to BotSprings Ark. with R U B Y ~ or anyone else who was going thereto gamble. He further stated that a ~ p r o x t a a t e l J 4-5 f.earshe had been up in Kentucky and his wife was with him. Bestated that on their return theJ decided to coae throughHot Springs Ark. and stopped there approx1aatelJ l i hours.He stated t ~ did aot go into any gambling places t thattime and he had never been in one there at an1 other t1ae.
Chiet t Police JESSE E. CURRY, Dallas~ e x a s , Police Departasnt advised on 12/9/63 that he did notknow RUBY; that he had never gone to Hot Springs Ark. withhia or anywhere else. Be turther stated be had never beenin an1 t the gambling places in Bot Springs A ~ k . , thathe had f one to a ·:lake on v a c a t ~ n near t ~ e ' e during hievacation 1n 1947 and be thought be a&J poss1bl7 have goneback in 1948 but in both inatancea h1a. w1fe waa with b1aand he had Dot gone into any gaabl1ng eetabl1shaenta there.
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- · ;. _._ 111AT HE HA K N O t i l ~ RUl3Y -.J'OR M A : ~ ~ t A R ~ ~ - HE STATtD RUDY, WHtU IN _
_:__ · C H 1 C ~ C 0 _WAS A Si·lALL r ~ l . l i ; ~ S A L t s ~ A N J A ~ D TICJ<£T SCALPER•. ~ ~ A ~ ~THAT4UBY HAD N£VER ENGAGED IN Atn' MAJOR CAMBLUqH: VENib-20R . : - : > -
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SCHUU1AN RECALLED THAT RUBY HAD A SISTER, N A ~ l E U : ~ K N O t : ~ J , IN. . - . .
. DALLAS, WHO WAS OPERATING A TAVERN I I ~ .:rHAT C I T Y ~ IN ABOUT _1-l NET££10 ' ' ' • • o ' ' J - • • .. I o a :
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l " ~ N A G u ' l E N T or THIS TAVERU. _ . . :< _..· .; :....: ·.. ,_.· .-·.. : :>:/: :,·.: . .
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CLOSE: FRIENDS AIIOHG THE DALLAS POLICE: . E P A R T ~ t i T P E R S O i ~ I I E L • . · : •
RECALLS RUBY l1AKING TRIPS TO HOT SPRINGS, A R K A a 5 A S WITH THI · . . .= ~ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ; . . , . _ - ·. :; :.DALLAS CHIEF or POLICE BUT INDICATED THAT HL DID NOT RECALL WHEN ·:
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THESE TRIPS ~ E R E MAD£ AND WOULD NOT KNOW IF TH£ TRIPS ~ E R E WITH :.:·: . . .;.__ .. - . .. -· ... .
__JliF P R T CHIEF OF P O ~ I C £ . ACCORDINt: TO SCHULi·iAN, RUBY HAD A .
. O ~ TD:PER AND WAS VERY QUICK TO E N G ~ G £ iN FIGHTS. 11£. STATED : ..• • I • . . •. . . .
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THAT RUBY HAD ABSOLt.rrtLY NO CONNEC TICNS WITH THE ~ R I : 1 I U A L t:Lt;·a::IIT .
IN CHICAGO. HE RECALLED THAT i'WO OF RL'BY-S C L O S E S T J ; U E ~ l t S l : D U :' • . . ' . . ·
HEP.SHEY AND SEFTKE SHEn. THESE BROTHERS OPIRAT£ A W H O L E S A L E .··:. .• :
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:,.... - was a ·p r iv a te club, became t he Carousel , which
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RUBY sa id he has not been c1 ;- )Cia e d with or operat:e.d
clubs except i n na : a s , Texu
RUBY s t a t e d th a t he v is i ted f r i e nd o f h i s brot:her in
Ontar io , Canada1
in 1929-1930 :o r two or th re e months ,
"-'hen en rou'te to Cal i fornia on a b r i e f t r i p , he wentNexico a t Juarez , He sa id t h i s was pure ly a
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dura t ion. He sa id he has never been in Mexico
and has never been outs ide the Cont inenta l United Sta tes
indica ted above and below. He sa id he has never been in
Hawaii .
RUBY r e l a t e d t h a t in August 1959 he went to Havana,
see L. c . MC HILLIE, who was 11 some so r t o£ a good w i l lthe Tropicana , a gambling es tabl i shment , He sa id XC ~ 1 : : L L I Ea plane t i c k e t and he l ived a t t he F9sca Apartments with_ fo r a per iod o f e ight to ten- days. He sa id he spent a l l
in Havana except to go t o ·a smal l area on one occas iont he FOX brothersu , who owned the Tropicana , He said
to Cuba Has comple te ly non-po l i t i c a l and t h a t he has hadpersons in Cuba. He sa id MC \-liLLIE is now
Hotel , Las Vegas, Nevada, .
·RUBY s t a t e d he has not been a member of any p o l i t i c a l
clubs or organiza t ions . He sa id h is brother HYXAN
t ime in te r es ted in p o l i t i c s in Chicago in a s ~ a l l way,
he may have be longed to B1 nai B1- r i th and the
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JewishFund 11 • He sa id he has never :been a member of the
Par ty or any 11 f ron t 11 organiza t ions , t h a t he has had no
i n , or a f f i l i a t i o n with, or i n t e r e s t in11
Fa i r Play for
any o t he r Cuban organiza t ion o f any type .
RUBY volunteered t h a t some years ago,11
a t a t ime ~ h e npopular in t he Uni ted Sta tes
11, he read of an individual
o£ Hous ton, Texas; having been engaged in11
gunto CASTRO". He sa id he a t tempted by · telephone to get in
th · th i s . indiv idua l as he had in mind11
making a- bucku by
some Jeeps or o ther s imi l a r e q u i p ~ e n t · w h i c hs e l l · t o persons- in te rested in t h e i r impor ta t ion to · Cuba,
came · o f · t h i s , He sa id he had never a ~ t e n d e d anyconcerned with ugun running", smuggling of persons in
f Cuba· or · otherwise · in· r e la t io n to Cuban·· a f f a i r s :
RUBY sa id he was assoc ia ted · in ·about 1937 in· Chicago
Dealers-Union but has otherwise had
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; ~ s i n e s s e s .h n e r i j ~ ~ ~ J ~ { ~ ~ ~ - - ~ ~ r - ·his n ight club ' ·
RUBY s t a t e d t h a t during t:he summer of 1963 he took a;p to Houston, Texas, en route to Edna·, Texas, wher"e he v i s i t e d ..
: : . ~ D Y B:\RR, a former Dall:1S s t r ip t ease f igure -'ho had j u s t been; ~ i c ~ s e d f r o ~ t he Texas Sta t e P e ~ i t e n t i a r y . He sa id he gave- ~ · ; o Y a d_og as a present . He s a ~ d he went on to New Orleans on
~ ~ i s same t r i p , his purpose being· to a t t empt to engage the se r
\:ices o f "JADA 11, a s t r i p p e r who had been performing in New
Jr lean s •
He sa id t ha t in the summer of 1963 he f lew via A ~ e r i c a n. • ir Lines to New York Ci ty , w h ~ r e he remained fo r two or three
i ~ ~ y s a t the new Hil ton Hotel, He sa id h i s purpose was to seeJOE GLASER, a booking agent , and to see of f i c i a l s 8£ American
Guild o f Variety A r t i s t s in order to r e g i s t e r complaints r e la t iv e
compet i tors in Dal las . He sa id he t r a v e ~ e ~ a lone , On t h i s_ t:•ip
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uutomat and having-visi ted or contacted BARNEY ROSS, former•:e l l -known prize f ig h te r whom he had known in Chicago. He. sa id
on the r e tu rn to Dallas he went via Chicago and t ha t members o.£h i ~ fami ly jo ined him b r ie f ly a t O'Hare Fie ld , the Chicagoa irport . RUBY sa id . he could r e c a l l no o the r t r a ve l outs ide of
Dallas dur ing 1963. ,
}He ffientioned_hav-ing--heen:-- in - New York, · -Joplin, Hissouri ;
] 7ulsa, O k l a h o m a . - ~ C h i c a g o in 1956 when he was a t tempt ing to
:.:--o:note a y o f i n g _ N e g v o ~ t a p dancer and drummer named NELSON, al so
bown as.....-(rLI-TTLE DADDY 11 : He sa id t h i s t r i p l a s t e d severa l weeks.
i ~ H e r e la ted th a t he was in Hot Springs , Arkansas , in
; 19s&: a s h ~ reca l l s , having f lown t he r e to at tend the races , He£aid he bel ieved he was in L i t t l e Rock dur ing the·same t r i p
~ : i e f l y . He sa id he was in Las Vegas, Nevada, in 1937 and does notreca l l having been there s ince t h a t time.
.r; RUBY s ta ted t h a t no pol ice · of f i c e r s · accompanied him on
:; t:'l.e t r i p to Hot Spr ings , mentioned·above, and t h a t he had never. \ been outside the Ci ty o f Dal las wi th any Dal las law enforcement
·: off icers . He sa id he had never employed any Dal las policeman
j~ i n any o f h i s c lubs , · a l though he had employed 11 Specia l ·Of£icers 11 ,
I ror the s e r v i c e s ·o f · the l a t t e r , he ··paid t he City ·,of Dallas, and
' ,;: the City in turn pa id the "Special Officers" in q u e s t i o n , · / H ea ,d .::\
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F R O M ~JACK LEON RUBY, aka;LEE HARVEY OS\ TALD, aka -VICTIM DECEASED)CIVIL RIGHTS
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~ N J ~ H 1 .... ~ B M _ I T : r , State Supervisor of the ArizonaState B u r e ~ c i o f ~ d e n t i f i c a t i o n Florence, Ar izona, advise
that he was ssis t nt manager of the Club Vegas, 2500 Oaklawn Avenue, Dallas, Texas the l t t e r part of 1953 unt i l
the f i r s t part of 9 5 5 .. JKCK RUBY was a partner in this
Club Vegas . MC DERriJ.ITT knows nothing as to the associatehabits, or ct ivi t ies of RUBY.
He st tes RUBY did have a quick temper. He hasno in formation that RUBY was subversive or belonged toany groups or organizations which could be un-American .
Enclosed for the Bureau i s the original andseven copies of a letterhead memorandum and enclosedfor Dallas are four copies of same.
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JACK LEON RUBY, AKA. LEE HARVEY OSWALD, AKA.
DASH VICTIM DASH DECEASED. .CR.
RE HOUSTON TEL ELEVEN Z_ERO· SIX PM, NOVEMBER TWENTYFIVE,
LAST, REFLECTING INTERVIEW WITH MRS. PAUL COLGROVE, AKA.NAJADA.
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-------------------OLICE DEPARTMENT, BAYTOWN, 1'EI{AS, JADVISED
SA FRANK M IVEY THAT ABOUT MARCH, SIXTYTWO, HE WAS
INNTRODUCED TO RUBY IN DALLAS AT CARROUSEt CLUB BY MARY -ARTFORD• . HE STATED HARTFORD IS POSSIBLY QUOTE MISTRESS
UNQUOTE OF RUBY IN THAT ' HE IS CONFIDENT THESE TWO WERE
CLOSELY ASSOCIATED UNTIL HE LAST HAD CONTACT WITH HER
ABOUT MARCH, SIXTYTWO. HE STATED HARTFORD WAS FORMERLY
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INTELLIGENCE OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT UT SHE HAS
SINCE TRANSFERRERED FROM DALLAS P TO CITY OF DALLAS TAX
DEPARTMENT. HE STATED SHE RESIDED, AS OF MARCH SIXTYTWO,
THREE FIVE ONE TWO AND ONE HALF CRAGMONT DALLAS FIVE
TEXAS, · AND DESCRIBED AS WI , TWENTYEIGHT TO THIRTY,
FIVE FEET FIVE INCHES, ONE TWO FIVE TO ONE THREE ZERO
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SlVE:U OF T;{E m i A ~ P U 3 L I C A T I O t ~ BLITZ" WAS .IN DALLAS THE DAY O.F:
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S T A T I ~ S THAT POLICE SHERfFF CURRY AND RUBY WERE ·MEMBERS t ' > f . : t l i E --;·:·,_ ·
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HOSTESS, BACHE LOR -S CLUB] DALLAS ON NOVHIBER TWENTY FIVE
LAST , ~ CALg KNOl JN TO INFOR 1ANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS,
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DURIUG PHON£ CONVERSATI ON INFOm1ANT AS KED EC C A L ~IF SHOOT ING OF O S ~ A L D WAS AN ACC I DENT AND SHE REPORTEDLY
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DL ~ · - 1 6 3ot u t f l r i • l U11114 in t b • oc t ond if ttlP 10• terh l notU1111d, RUDY , . .ould b110011" ~ e r y Ol\l{l7 on'd o.t t i • • • MO.) tb.illlt11to BD'l<'l' J..III:ES t l l • t . tb a n t e r t • t n • r •llll<.ild l h t . r i . ; t o h i • o.o<ldo ,..,llo.t b J YllOt•d 11inc• bio • u ~ r ; : e • t i O Q 1 1 r11r11 what .,.._., roOd t r
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BEAU • •1d . tb;, t RmiY could d hnd b i l l ' •d f with
ti11t11;bO.ev•:r, h,• .,,_., f r i ~ n d l y bu;t •tflrn , . i th oulit6•'•,..·l:bo.t' go t out of h ~ n d a t t h e ' n i ~ l l t o}ub, Dl:AL.'i .,._.,.RUBY JO•t
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on• f igh t her • RUBY· thro..- out • ·cu6 to•• r , , .bo b< D"-'"" ,. ... . . .••r<:>-' 1 t t c ...,(I ca.uuod t rouble at th • club,• BEAUJ ao.id ROllY
opp<>arvd t b• an,eiDOtional t ) 'P" of • '""" in••mucb ,..,, ottl••• RUDY YOU} d di11CU1111 thir11111 witll BEAU in coone<:tion i t hOorld ·•ar 11, /lUll¥. o p p ~ a r . , : d .. ry t n t e r . t e d in B:SAI..'I Yl:i.eQ
BE.U.S to ld l>i• tho.t 1:1. wat> in Oo•b•t during llrorld hr II•nd rec•ive>d t n j u r i ~ e to hi • band in clltmoctton witb •n
• x p l o ~ i l l ; , , RUDY mo•tly '"ould to lk of bow tb• oct ""W •p r o ~ t r • ~ • i n g and bo• b u s i n o t > ~ Q ••a d o i n ~ ~ ; •nd v ~ r _ y rH'e ly di•cu•••dpo l i t i c • . Bow•v•r, Rl.ltlY •PPI1•r•d very eoootton•l 'o.t t i • • •when he dt,.cu•""'d t/1" ~ t r o c 1 t 1 co ....Hted br l ~ c i 1 1 t • a.ndlla><h durino: •o r ld llor I I , RIIIIY '<'ould tk lk o.bout th• • a r andho• fliTU:R ord•red •ill on" ol innocent peoph to be ki l ledo.nd t • r • wouhl come to 'ROBY'" ere•
B£At.S u i d t.bat he r<"""'"b"r"d RUBY t t d t h • t"i'e lo•t , .o gr<>•t "'"" •t,.on ROOSJ.:Y£LT died" , otherYh<>, RUBY,did not exPreu •ny opinion •• to h h pol t t iool bel1e1•,
BEALS s ta ted tha t RUBY h•d' a ~ n , which •u bel in-•dto to. • ,S..i tb a. l 'edooo ·,3B col iber i t h • &1>< . inch b ~ r r e l ,n . t a "'"" maintained nn • abel t und•r the c•11h r e t ; • t , r ,
EIEALS 11aid tb•-t in /IUiflldt o 1 9 ~ 1 1 he rec•1ved wordthat 111 tUI>nr had died and RUBY voluot .. r i l r gcav• h i • , 'aon•y, oppro;o.1a•t . ly $3 :0,00, 11> order to • t tend hill o.ther atuoor-&1,
ho"d o b a r b ~ " ' ; : . , ; " ~ ~ { ~ ~ 2 ~ ~ ~ C ~ k ~ / ~ ~ ~ t ~ ~ ~ ~ i . , · ~ ~ r a e t in
D ~ l l • • 'I'OUld b.; -:notb•r l o d i y l d U ~ l '"liD "<"OUld l m ~ O RODT,
COMMISSION EXHfl::H'l' No. 1473-Continued
ffDfRAL IIURfAU Of IHYUTICl/ '11
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DAVID 3, LEVEIITHAL, Interpol 1\ev.,nu" S"rv ic" (IRS) Agent,F1old Audit D t v h t o ~ Corr1 1Bil 'l'owera, 212 Novth 1 , Paul,'wnas, T .) ausea wac h i ~ office h lncat e f loor
or th" covrigon T o w ~ r 1 1 ~ n d ) lis telephone n=be Rl 8- 611OXtene1Dn 21166, ffe ' l tl lt< d, hOWeV<H', thot h" )IIIII nwtth JACK RUBY on th1l'l exten111on, lie r ~ l a t e d th.D.t to hillknowledge tkere la no DAVE 1\0SEl;tf{AL employed by the Il'IS " t
P a l l ~ ~ ~ n d tha t he lalown o t no one by tha t name, lie advhed
that another IRS Agent, GLE I S'l'I/1/IE'l"'', l>r111 tlllked With RUBYon this .-xten11lon aeveral tlme11 ln the rec ,nt paHt concerning
, t a ~ con;prp:nlll" · • Ll1 HOLt,
LEVEUI'HAL "dv111ed tha t )1a dooa know f UBY, h o w ~ v e r ,nnd he f1 ra t m"t RUBY in nppro,v;1n;atBly 1951 or 1952 when h•,Ll'VEm'HAL, waa public 11ccountllnt, ""no e414 UBi l i l l ' < ~ d hilha t tha t time to handle his account ror hlm whleh LEVEIITHAL'dit ro r about ona Y""r during 1951-52. a ~ 1 d RUBY wa11o p e r ~ t 1 n g the Sl lvcr Spur CltlL In Lll lha a t tha Uma andRUBY \Ina not very auec.,na 'Ul in tha t bualnnan ventl- ' r• , He11t11ted tha t ln 1952 ho Willi employed by 11 priva t firm and d1dnot aubaequently handle RUBY•s "ecount, He ata ted t)'ult aa areaul t of thn ~ b o v ncrv1ce, lll1BY owed Lf.VEUl'i AL mone y whichhe nev.v paid, He ndd< d, h o ~ < < ~ V a r , t M t 1n 11Ub11CQ:Uent yearnRUBY ortered to P.'IY LEVE.trl'HAL but LEVEN'HIAL tOld RUBY totorl •t about lt
He rel, . tnd ttlllt 1n ~ p p r o l ( : l l r , . , h l y 19511 RUBY ~ n d lllfB'iiaf i t ~ n e ~ e , namto u n r ~ c a l l e d , invlt..ct htm t o > ~ c c o m p a n y them t o > ~b e ~ i n g r n ~ t c h in Da.l·hn, · ~ h i c h )le did , He ~ t u t e d thl l t outolda
or thi s 1 1 a ~ o c 1 a t 1 o n , )1., had no a octal contacta with RUBY, floadded the only aube•Q.Uent contactn.wlth RUBY were o c c l ' n i o n > ~ lgrcetingn oxchllng"d when ha IIIIW flUB'{ on the atreet11 of Dall11n,.The ln11t tllna he caw RUBY w"n > ~ b o u t two ye,.re ago w h ~ nLf.VEltrHAL "nd LE.VENTW•L'n w t t ~ v1nited RUBY'" C a r o u ~ e l Club1n lallan,
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LEVENTHAL advla..ct ttlllt RUBY h aOiu\olhAt "hotbut h" han never neen h11l\ 1n Vlnlent nt a t • o r • t r tk •He ~ d d e < l that RUBY ~ i k 0 1 1 " ~ h o > o ~ bul incn" o.ild be1ng hillboa a,
LE'i'EN'l'ltAL a h t nd he knew_ none ot RUB\''11 clone~ a a o c l . a t e n or l ' tqua1ntancea and hn did .not J.o:now if RUBYh11d t ri .,ndn on the Dlllllln Police Dep.o.rtment,
LE'lEIITW.L did not know LEE W.RVEY OS',oiJ.LD end kn•'olor no aaaoci,.t1on betwMn ROB'i and OSWALD, i l • hlld no 1d•ahow RUB'{ gain td entrnnco to the b u t o m ~ n t Or, th• Dal110a Cl.tyl t ..l l on llovombar 21f, 1963, or why RUBY l d l l • d OSWALD,
Co.m.nssiON EXHIBIT·No. 1474·-Continued
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