is my business a business or hobby
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Is My Business a Business or Hobby?Hobby Loss Rules
Taxpayer View Taxpayers want everything to be a business if it
will help them reduce their taxes
IRS View They would rather categorize an entity as a hobby
if it is losing money Hobby losses are limited
Expenses are limited to revenues Reported on Sch. A subject to a 2% floor
Example: If Photography is Hobby not Business You get paid $2,000 Expenses are $4,000 Your and your spouses AGI is $50,000
You show the $2,000 on your 1040 as other income. You are limited to $2,000 in expenses. However, your
2% floor is $1,000 (50,000 x 2% = $1,000). Thus, you only get to deduct $1,000 ($2,000-$1,000 = $1,000).
And you only get to take that if you itemize!
Example Continued If it were a business you would get to show a
$2000 loss on Schedule C ($2,000 - $4,000 = $2,000 loss).
If it is a hobby, you still have to report the income. However, you might not get to deduct any
expenses if you don’t itemize. Even if you do, you only get to deduct $1,000 of the expenses.
Business vs. Hobby If you show a profit 3 out of 5 years, the basic
presumption of the IRS is that you are a business. This is not a hard and fast rule.
Some businesses show losses more than 2 our of 5 years The basic idea is that if you have a profit motive, you
will quit if you continue to show losses
Note: Farms only have to show profits 2 out of 7 years
Profit Motive: The Real Key It really comes down to do you have a profit motive
or is it just a hobby. Many small businesses do things they love. E.g.,
photography. But the bottom line is are you trying to develop it into a successful business
Other factors Time involved Are you trying to change your operations to increase
profit
Conclusions and Disclaimer: Taxpayers generally want to avoid the “hobby”
designation A business that continues to show large losses,
the IRS may want to re-categorize as a hobby. This is a somewhat superficial overview – talk to
your tax preparer if you have specific questions or contact us at [email protected] to discuss your specific issues.