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Bang, Boom: Terrorism as a GameIron Man 3, With Robert Downey Jr.

By MANOHLA DARGISPublished: May 2, 2013

Right before I sawIron Man 3, a publicist implored theseveral

hundred attendees professionals and civilians jammed into a

multiplex box and throbbing with excitement not to reveal any

crucial information about the movie to anyone else. After the final

credits rolled, and I staggered toward the exit, the booms of

explosions still ringing in my ears, I wondered what I could possibly

divulge that would spoilthe pleasure of an innocent ticket buyer.

After all, originality isnt the point of a product like Iron Man 3,

which, despite the needless addition of 3-D and negligible differences

in quips, gadgets, villains and the type of stuff blown up, plays out

much like the first two movies.

And so, once again, Tony Stark a k a

Iron Man a k a Robert Downey Jr.

jokes and poses, wears his superhero

suit and flirts with Pepper Potts

(Gwyneth Paltrow). Stuff blows up, and then more stuff

blows up, because thats what happens when diversions like

this hit movie screens around this time of year: chaos

reigns, and then some guy cleans it up.

The only significant difference between Iron Man 3 and

others of its type is that it is opening a few weeks after the

Boston Marathonbombings. Its an unhappy coincidencethat might not be worth mentioning if Iron Man 3 didnt

underscore just how thoroughly Sept. 11 and its aftermath

have been colonized by the movies.

The makers of Iron Man 3 including the director,

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A vers ion of this review appears in print on May 3, 2013, on page C1 of the New York edition w ith the headline: Bang,

Boom: Terrorism As a Game.

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Downey , Robert Jr

Kingsley, Ben

Shane Black, who wrote the script with Drew Pearce

could not, of course, have known that their carefully

engineered entertainment would open so soon after the

Boston attack. Yet the explosions in the movie, as well as

its plot elements among them the threat of terrorist

violence, homegrown terrorism, American soldiers and

improvised explosive devices made it impossible not to

think about the marathon. When a Los Angeles landmark

is blown up on screen, a twist rendered with the usual

state-of-the-art digital technology, all I could think washow clean it looked without the pools of blood and

grotesquely severed body parts.

Not that anyone w ants to see that, especially with kids in

the theater. (The movie is rated PG-13.) Iron Man 3 is

conspicuously meant to be escapist entertainment (a

pathetic conceit, given what it says movie people think

about real life or rather the real lives of their customers).

But Mr. Black and his colleagues, like other filmmakers

who use the iconography of Sept. 11 and its aftershocks,

want to have it both ways.

They want to tap into the powerful reactions those eventsinduced, while dodging the complex issues and especially

the political arguments that might turn off ticket buyers.

The result is that in some movies Sept. 11 along with

Afghanistan, Iraq, terrorism, the war on terror and torture

registers as just a device, at once inherently political and

empty, in a filmmakers tool kit.

Iron Man 3 uses that iconography in the extreme, with a terrorist figurehead, the

Mandarin (Ben Kingsley), made up to look like Osama bin Laden; a televised execution;

Middle East locations; American soldiers; and a complexly choreographed scene of falling

bodies. It all looks and sounds familiar, though this is strictly Marvels world, with its own

rules and reality.

The story takes place after the events of Marvels The Avengersand a battle for New

York, with Stark talking in a voice-over: We create our own demons. Theres a bunch of

plot, the usual special effects and new faces, including Rebecca Hall as Maya Hansen, a

geneticist, and Guy Pearceas Aldrich Killian, a rich guy with one of those mysterioso

organizations that are invariably up to no good.

Thats more or less it, give or take a few explosions. Those are loud and generally less

impressive than Mr. Pearce and especially Mr. Kingsley, who turn in the sort of engaged

performances that Mr. Downey no longer gives in the franchise. The Iron Manfilms

turned Mr. Downey into a huge star, but the role has gradually, maybe inexorably,

swallowed him. He no longer necessarily does and probably isnt asked to do the hard

work of a real performance.

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Entertaing but....

Entert aining bu t one can see wha t's happening t o the series already . I won't spoil here in th e event

y ou h av en't seen i t y et, but i t's gett ing more & more ou tr ag eous w / ea ch ent ry & il logi ca l t o follow

the plot. The series is even depart ing from the comics,which is an unforgiv able wrong. But if you're

the kin d of viewer t hat goes for action & NOTHING ELSE---Guess what ? You're in for a t reat . So bring

out the popcorn & ha v e mindless fun.

Yaly445, NYC

Awfu l for ch ildren on so many l evel s

My h usband and I really enjoyed Iron Man 1 and 2, there wa s wit, some play fulness, wonderful

special effects, and style, w ith good actin g by Downey , Paltrow and others.

This was an aw ful experience, in sharp contra st. The plot was a complete m ess, so ma ny explosions

and the evil cha racter really didn't make any sense, nor any idea where th e huge wealth came from

to wreak such carnage. We figured in the effort to appeal to Chinese culture it was simplest to just

hav e unending explosions and carnage tha n to create a story line tha t sustained the nature of the

first two films.

Ver y depr essing th at childr en i n t he m ovie a udi enc e w ere cheer ing goda wfu l t ort ur e and c ar na ge a s

if it was a great joy to watch. I wonder how this ma kes a contribution to the international scene, that

this is what will bridge Asia and the US?

This movie shows that parents should scrutinize films v ery carefully before letting their children

wa tc h t hem, a nd I'm an un abash ed li ber al .

Hideously l oud and chaotic mess. I wan t my ears back!

Va Mom, Alexandria, VA

Kiddie Movie with Some Good Lines for the Adults

Since it wa s raining, w e decided to go to Ironma n 3 sev eral w eekends after it opened. We were

surprised that people brough t smal l children h olding enormous cups of soda (May or Bloomberg ha s

no jurisdiction in NJ). It turn ed out th at th ese overly -suga red kiddies lov ed what I found mil dly

bori ng (a ll th e "act ion") and t al ked a nd w al ked a rou nd du ri ng wh at I liked (w itt y lin es, pr ett y good

actin g, especially from Ben Kingsley a nd Robert Downey , Jr, and not too bad of a plot -- I went

beca use I r ead th er e actua lly wa s a pl ot a nd n ot ju st m ind less a ct ion). Th e r ecen t Sta r T rek showin g

I went to had a m uch m ore engaged audience (a nd no one was un der 14 or guzzling soda). Bottom

line is that it is tough to judge a movie with such an au dience, but in general I liked it enough to give

it thr ee star s for its wit, acting , and reasonably sensible plot.

GinaK, New Jersey

Tin Man 3

Downey and Paltrow did yeomen's duty in agr eeing to act in this piece of gar bage.

Shane Black should stick with being a screenwriter. Too bad he was giv en that first nam e; Having a

fantasy that y ou are the hired gunslinger come in to sav e the day ; Because he doesn't know how to

direct.

Semper Nonfidelis, Bos ton, MA.

Ver y Loud

An enor m ously loud m ov ie w ith ADHD.

Mick, Boston

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Dynamite entertainment

Sorry I didn't read the r eview, but from comm ents I can discern tha t it w asn't v ery favorable. Too

bad. Thi s mov ie h ad de cen t a ct ing , g ood script , v ar ious c onfli cts, su ffici ent ac ti on, a nd a won der ful

soundtrack. Listening to the m usic with th e credits gave m e goosebumps. Very much worth seeing.

Al so good enough in 2D. I pai d $5 bec au se I wen t i n t he morn ing . Lots of ba ng for t he buck.

PJ, Fairfax , VA

Beat The Heck Out Of Gatsby

Saw this for free following Ga tsby--both flicks were only

slightly satisfactory --a Hollyw ood staple--mediocrity .

amcartemis, aus tin, texas

Iron Man 3 ~ Rusted.

An excel len t r ev iew by Dar gi s wh ich offers som e poin ts i ha dn't conside red but do n ow, wh ich , i t hen

recignised, illustrated Dargis' analy sis about how folks like my self, who liv e in Am erica, are

succeptible to being reconditioned by capitalist profiteers, and made to (via facist psychedelia [topara phrase Kubrick]) be dumbed-down about rea lity in fav our of being dazzled by meret ricious

films. Prior to reading th e analy sis presented by Dargis, i left the mov ie disappointed. The plot wa s

dull and unoriginal, and the direction was mediocre (poor, in fact, regarding the action sequences

wh ich were too bu sy , m ak ing th e ch oreogr aph y diffi cu lt to foll ow [ lik e in Bour ne2 , Qu an tu m an d

DarkKnight1]). I wish Favreau had directed it, for he knows how to direct action sequences

properly). As a fan of the 7 0's Marv el Comics canon, i wa s also annoy ed by the la me rew orking of

elements: a dull, Nitro-reduced-to-TheMoltenMan hybrid; a complete elimination of the true

Mandarin character; a n introducing of AIM but without MODOK which would hav e been a far m ore

entertaining v illian/ menace than what was settled on. The film is being far too overrated by the

plethora of unin spired critics and fans present these day s. In closing, i do wish to disagree w ith

Dargis' (and other s) praise for the DarkKnight films wh ich (wit h th e exception of some of the

element s of the 2nd one) are as dull and uninspired as IronMan3, a nd are guilt y of the same

man ipulation of the m asses that Dargis accurately accuses Disney/ Marvel of in IronMan3.

StellarJay, Southern Oregon

Did Ms. Dargis even wat ch th e movie?

Iron Man 3 wa s one of the better , more clev er superhero movies I'v e senn. After t he Av engers and

the Harry Potter m ovies Ms. Dargis cherished, it w as refreshing to wa tch a big franchise movie that

stood alone and wasn't a mere two hour adv ertisement for the nex t chapt er in the fran chise. if she'd

seen the m ovie, she'd know tehre were ma ny laughs, clever dialogue, and a hilar ious twist that I

never saw coming. For m y spoiler free review of Iron Man 3 h ead to

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Pablo, Los Angeles, Ca

bia sed rev iew

I think the critic is being biased and is taking the review on a personal lev el. It is fairly clear tha t th e

critic doesn't know an y thing about the cha racter nor the h ard endeavour to make films such as this

one. I also hav e some complaints about th e film but by and large I hav e enjoy ed every mar v el film

from Iron Man to The Av engers. That's the problem with critics. They enjoyed tearing a film apart

but i nstead of soun ding clev er I rath er see them as bi tt er. Cri ti cs tal k t he ta lk but I'm afr ai d th ey

couldn't wa lk the wa lk.

Hector, Mexico

What about t he poor wri t ing...

While th e NY T r ev iew er c lea rl y wa sn't l ooking to see a com ic book film , for th ose of us w ho w ere ,

wh at wa s wi th th e terr ible wr it ing . Please bri ng bac k Fa v rea u as di rec tor , if th ey ev er mak e

another one of these. Why build up the character Mandarin character in m aking this movie and

then t ake the story in the direction Black did. What a wa ste. Why doesn't a power ringed Chinese

peasant t ranslate as a m odern bad guy . What is with the wierd-techno DNA bad guy w ith a chip on
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his shoulder and a broken Ironman struggling with his PTSD. Is it really that hard to carr y along

the cha racters and story from th e first movie to new a nd interesting comic book bad guy s. Am I the

only one tha t thin ks this movie is Hulk-lev el bad, as comic book mov ies go? I actu ally went ba ck and

re-watch ed the pathetic Ironman 2 as a feelgood after coming out of this crapfest. If they wan ted to

go in a bold an new direction in th is franchise, how about killin g off Pepper Potts, an a nnoy ing an d

wh iny ch ar ac ter ha ted by most ev ery one. Perh aps t he wr iters c ould explore wh at th at wou ld do t o

the Tony Stark character.

BK, Phila, PA

Nothi ng Special at All

I completely a gree with t he rev iewer's comm ents on this film in ev ery way . I'm a huge Downey, Jr.

fan, grew up reading Iron Man, and enjoyed the A vengers film, but this film m isses its mark and left

me regr etting spending the money . Also, I don't find terrorism enter tain ing or enjoy able as a villa in.

I found the sequences uncomfortable at times, not at all what I wanted from this film.

ND, NV

Was i t a cart oon or th e rea l t hing?

Critics are paid to dissect films, thus the term criticize; viewers pay to experience them, like the

wor ld outside , a s nec essar ily fla wed wholes. IMO, t he film wor ked a s a w hole . It w as a solid, i fsometimes predictable, genre entertainment with some fairly nuanced darker notes by Downey Jr.

a tr adeoff for th e inev itable crescendo of exploding objects in the last qua rter of the film . Eg, it wa s a

fun cart oon. Interestingly , wh at t he NYT saw as a m ail-in performa nce, other media such as NPR

saw the same performa nce as a significant development of Downey Jr.'s charact er. I agree with t he

latter.

As fa r a s th e ch oru s her e about v iolen ce, I'm rem inded of an in ter v iew wi th Ta ra nt ino, in wh ich he

grew quite u pset w ith being labeled as a "violent" director. His films, h e insisted, ar e cart oons of

v iolen ce, in ten ded t o be utt er ly un lik e li ke t he real th ing . A ny one w ho h as been ar oun d real

demolitions or actua l guns and their w ounds would agr ee. I find many "serious" films with angr y

adults thrusting their faces at each other, no guns, no explosions, to be more rife with anticipatory

v iolen ce, m ore u nset tl ing , t ha n l ar ge st ru ctur es goin g k abloooomb in v iv id com put er colors. Indeed,

perhaps critics should exam ine their own fascination with mining na tional catastrophes rather than

confronting day t o day violence on ev ery street in America.

SMB, Boston

Hipster Nytim es Reviewers

I really don't know why I keep reading these New York Times Rev iews. Alway s pompous, alwa y s

wi th a n at ur e of "I'm sm ar ter th an ev ery one el se th er efore ev ery th ing I wa tc h i s below me". If I

wa nt ed to list en t o a r ev iew by a h ipste r, I woul d go t o Sta rbu cks.

The film is really a superhero film, m eant to ma ke us escape from our liv es for a couple of hours, by

imm ersing ourselves in a fut uristic w orld full of robots, special effects, and heroes vs. evil , but it 's not

ju st t ha t, an d th e fa ilu re to a ccept, or u nder sta nd t ha t, m ak es th e Ny ti mes Rev iew ers, as u sua l,

bori ng hi pster s.

The film dealt w ith th e notion of pum ped up Terrorirst puppets made up and empowered by th e

media, and found a way to arm us as adults, but a lso the kids watching this film, to deal with ourown fears, by m aking th e Evil, look ridiculous, just like Harry Potter an d his mates used the

Riddikulus charm to turn the Boggart into something funny . Mandarin is turned into a clown, and

Killian's ma sk is ripped of when t he face of evil is rev ealed. It dealt with the idea of how terrorism,

and terr orist wars are fueled by people who like to control the world today by creat ing these villa ins,

and as Killian said, fueling t he "supply and dema nd" for war on terr or. And lastly Iron Man 3 doesn't

dodge September 11 , it deals with it in a way that most film-makers don't hav e the courage to, by

dealing with the idea that 9 /11 and other terrorist threats are just a made-up war-factory fuel

engine.

I'm not saying t his was the m ost brilliant film ever w ritten, but it wa sn't just another pop-corn flick.

I would like for once to read in a ny times review, someone liking movies. Every review is written by

people who don't like going t o the mov ies, snotty English looking arch ety pes that despise this form of

entertainment.

Unlike the Ny tim es, I don't th ink it m akes you look sma rter t o hate something , or to despise

someth ing. As some other g reat ma n wh o lov es the mov ies Abed Nadir said, I guess I just like liking

things.

johnnyrose, Mediterranean
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Things Th at Go Boom

I'm nev er been a big fan of "thin gs that go boom" and "Oh, we're 10 m inut es into the movie: tim e for

another series of film explosions."

Because tha t Iron Man 3 is: a thin plot backed by t hings th at "Go Boom

*Spoiler Aler t!*

An d, w ha t's up with t he Man dar in bein g r eally a d ru gg ed-out ac tor (pla y ed bea ut ifu lly by Ben

Kingsly?). Ah , y es,the mov ie makers wanted to show th eir film in China, a nd so had to get the

Comm unist Party to allow it.

An d, w ha t's up

Cy nthia, San Francsico

What can y ou rea ll y sa y about t he m ovie or a bout it s rev iew?

It's easy t o go after th e curren t Iron Man mov ie's use of terr orism, but th e trut h of the mat ter is that

Iron Man mov ies hav e a problem th at can 't be solv ed.

Iron Man is a franchise that is at least forty y ears old and was written for children and the standard

franchise movie formu la inv olves referencing the original source ma terial and char acters and

updating them for a young adult au dience, before releasing them into the world like children with

ey es full of hope.

The intractible problem with the Iron Man franch ise is the ma terial it h as to update. The Marvel

Comics superv illain, Th e Mandar in, was originally a Chinese Peasant wh o found ten, ring-like

structures in a crashed alien space-ship, put them on his fingers and found that he could zap things

wi th ten differ ent energ y bea ms, or, as a ch ildh ood frien d of m ine once put it : "bur nin g t hi s, a nd

freezing that."

His rings and yellow-peril cunning m ade him into a recurring Iron Man enemy .

As h e w as, th e Manda ri n j oins a long list of Mar v el Comi cs Vi llai ns of the sixt ies a nd sev ent ies w hose

wor ld w ar tw o an d cold-w ar orig ins m ak e them usel ess as c ur ren t en ter ta inm ent wi th out gig an tic

am ounts of tweakin g for them to be val id in our w orld where no audience could be expected to

understa nd why Iron Man wa s facing red-menace-era Iron Man kn ock-off supervil lains like

Titanium Man, or the Crimson Dyna mo.

Perhaps terrorism is a distasteful subject for use in an action mov ie in today's atm osphere but stu diosare for-profit organizations that exchange experience for cash and international terrorism might not

be t he best th ing or t he nic est t hi ng th e stu dios can u se to g ar ner int er est, but i t r ea lly is th e only

gam e in town.

Sahtori, New York, NY

Disconnected?

"...w orthy of the legacy of those Hollyw ood movies that comforted and cheered America ns through

wor ld w ar s an d bleak ti mes.. ."

Really ? You mean t he escapist, evil Nazis and Japanese, bumbling Italians, v aliant Westerners

Worl d Wa r 2 mov ies tha t w ere pur e pr opag an da wi th out , in al m ost a ll cases, r efer enc e to an y of th e

"tough issues" of the time? Ther e were v ery few mov ies in that t ime - perhaps "Saha ra", "30 SecondsOv er Tokyo" as two exam ples, that would fit y our criteria as "worthy of the ar t", though NOT of

tackl ing "tough issues" (though "30 Seconds" did refer, lightly at t he end, to injuries). And y ou're

seriously m entioning "worth y of the audience..." in regar ds to cartoon char acter m ovies? By

definition, they are n ot going to tackle tough issues. More serious movies, like "Zero Dark Thir ty " or

"Sav ing Priv ate Ry an" can nev er hope to be the m ega-blockbusters the studios need for their bottom

line. Big studio mov ies, as money generat ing v ehicles, are not disconnected now from th e world, as

they weren't then. As alway s, money doesn't equal ar t, and v ice-versa.

Josh, Manhattan

Enough about Boston!

The Boston bombings wer e two m isguided kids with IEDs. Honestly , wh at h appened there does NOT

man date reflecting on any aspect of our entertainm ent. It was an aberration and a r andom ev ent

that is actually really RARE in this country . You would be better off talking about the im pact of

drug cultur e, alcoholism or texting wh ile driving. Those claim more American liv es ev ery w eek

than the bombings. Can we stop turning every thing into a commenta ry on the events in Boston?

Brad Schultz, NYC


7/8















Pretentious Crap

This review was a load of pretentious rubbish. Most Americans ha ve already forgotten about the

Boston Marath on bombing . Stev en Soderbergh ? What's the point of bringing up his nam e in this

review? Iron Man 3 was enjoyable to watch. It's a m ovie, not the Great American Novel. Judge it for

wh at it is, n ot w ha t Ma gic Mike sa y s it coul d be. ..

Some Dude Named Steevo, Wisconsin

Wherefore a rt th ou, Iron Man?

The tru e lament is how th is franchise has devolved. The first film wa s a success chiefly because it

took its protagonist's conceited livelih ood and self-deprecatingl y deconstruct ed it by didactically

slapping him down, m ost effectively by confronting him with the v ictims of his own destructive

we apon ry . A s it tu rn s out , i ts sequ els h av e m eander ed n oisily int o pain t-by -th e-nu mber s exposit ions

of explosiveness, betra y ing th e seeds of potentia l path os tha t wer e once so effectiv e, and could hav e

potentially been exploited (and I mean that in a good way ). As it is, we ha v e just a fine film and, um,

two forgettable encores. Sigh.

TishTash, Merrick, NY

This was a rev iew?

This was more a diatribe aga inst the m ovie industry , full of venom a nd hot wind! And completely

lacking in a ny objectivity . The au thor spends more time talking a bout people talking a bout Iron

Man 3 than actually talking about the movie.

I though t it quite enter tainin g and Downey did a great portray al of someone suffering from PTSD,

someth ing a lot of soldiers hav e to deal wit h constantl y . Yet th at isn't good acting a nd is only

Downey playing himself?

Some of the parts were over done and play ed too far for comedy , but as an adu lt, I can see where th at

wou ld a ppea l t o a y oun ger cr owd r at her t ha n som eone w ho h as fol lowed Iron Ma n for ov er tw ent y -

five years.

Arthur Hansen, Bountiful, Utah

Consider the T heme

[Mr. Soderbergh said he thought that the country still has post-traum atic stress disorder and t hat

we ha v en t r eal ly heal ed in an y sort of complet e way an d th at people a re , a s a r esul t, lookin g m ore

toward escapist entertainm ent.]

I'd argue th at is exactl y t he them e of Iron Man 3, except th at Tony recognizes it and rises abov e it.

*Spoilers* Tony is suffering PTSD from t he ev ents in NY, he looks for escape/seeks solace in the Iron

Man arm or, and rises above th is debilitatin g condition as evidenced when h e enacts Project: Clean

Slate.

Ben, AL

Response from a Nearby Galax y

Is ther e any one in the galax y t hat doesnt know Iron Man is opening on Friday ? asks Stephen

Soderbergh.

An swer : Yes.

The fact tha t a major movie m aker doesn't realize this neatly explains why audiences hav e such a

hard tim e finding moves even r emotely reflecting "the world in which t he rest of us live."

Robert, G arrison, NY

Wrong pla ce for rea li ty !

While I enjoy ed r ead ing th is art icl e, t he fac t r em ai ns t ha t n o one goes t o see a "comic book m ov ie"


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beca use t hey wa nt to ex per ien ce a hi gh er sense of r ealit y . La st t im e I check ed, n o one r eads comic

books for t ha t r eason eit her. Or from at ten din g a sport ing ev ent , t he pur pose is to en ter ta in. Like

Maxim us fam ously said in Gla diator, "Are y ou not entert ained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? IS

THIS NOT THE REASON WHY YOU ARE HERE?" If y ou're looking for t he stu dios to cha nge t he w ay

they ma ke films like this, don't hold y our breat h. WE ALL give th e license for th e studios to do wh at

they do because at the end of the day , guess what? Despite everyt hing y ou all say, t his film w ill

STILL gross ov er a billion dollars! Just like th e first two Iron Man film s, or the Av engers, or th e Dark

Knight, or just a bout ever y other comic book film. We say we dislike these senseless movies with no

depth but y et and still we giv e up our h ard earn ed money to wat ch th em EVERY SINGLE TIME! It's

no different tha n wh en we complain about an actor or an athlete wh o makes too much m oney but

fail to acknowledge that ev ery time y ou go see their movies, see their gam es, buy their

mer chan dise, th at Y OU'RE PAYING THEIR SALARY! These people are w here th ey are beca use of

us...POINT, BLANK, PERIOD! If y ou're REALLY sick and tir ed of these mov ies with their lack of depth

and sensitively y ou'd simply stop watching t hem. But we all know wh at's gonna h appen. When

movies like Man of Steel, Thor 2, A nt Man, Captain America 2 : the Winter Soldier, and Av engers 2

come out w e're gonna do what we ALWAYS do! We're gonna ha ve our money ready to give u p, watch

every single last one of them, and complain about the lack of depth these movies hav e and how sick

we al l a re from it . J ust some food for th oug ht !

Marvin, North Hollywood, CA

Not a fan boy

I know I sound like a Fanboy. Don't ev en read th e comics ,but for your in format ion ,Marv el (and)

Iron Man hav e been dealing w ith th ese terrorists long before 9-11 . And No ,the Mandarin is Not

ma de up to look like Bin Laden.

Dheep', Az

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