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INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT 1

DATE: January 08, 2021 2

DURATION: @35:51 to @55:15, 19 min. 36 sec. 3

LOCATION: WASHINGTON, D.C. 4

INTERVIEWER: 5

ANN VANDERSTEEL, THE STEEL TRUTH 6

https://steeltruth.com/ 7

INTERVIEWEE: 8

LT. GEN. THOMAS MCINERNEY (USAF 9

Ret.); Born March 15, 1937 Havre de 10

Grace, Maryland, U.S.; 11

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas12

_McInerney 13

Questioned Barack Obama’s birth 14

information; One of 235 retired generals and admirals who 15

endorsed President Trump’s 2020 reelection. 16

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STARTING @ 35:51 22

LT. GEN. MCINERNEY: The fact is COVID-19 was a 23

biological attack on the world. It was, to number one, impact 24

the economies, look at it. Look at this place [Washington, 25

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D.C.], this is the first time I have been here since COVID-19. 1

It's an air raid. 2

So, they have impacted our economies. 3

No. 2, it was a direct attack on the election, and 4

they knew what was going to happen. So obviously, the 5

Democrats, whether they're in the party or in collusion with 6

them. 7

They initially started with Hong Kong. Taking over 8

Hong Kong. Violating what the treaty was and all that. So, 9

they wanted... its hybrid warfare using cyberwarfare and 10

different tools, economics and a whole host of things to 11

change the world. 12

They have done it very effectively, and what we are 13

all of a sudden realizing... I didn't become involved in this 14

until the first of November (2020) when I found out that the 15

program Hammer and Scorecard were going to be used as a 16

cyberweapons tool, cyber warfare tool, to take and change the 17

voting, and it did. 18

I called Rudy [Giuliani] and Sydney [Powell] and 19

someone got me in touch with them and I told them on the first 20

of November [3], Sunday. 21

On the 2nd [Nov. 02, 2020], I was on Steve Bannon's 22

show with Sydney [Powell] as a co-host saying what was going 23

to happen. And on the 3rd, what happened? It's factual. 24


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As of now we have unconstitutional government, and 1

you don't even have to know what I know about the cyberwarfare 2

because they violated their [state] constitutions when they 3

changed the rules. 4

Let's examine those battle ground states that they 5

know the fraudulent voting came in [from]. It always comes in 6

late at night, 7

And so, what we found ourselves with, and again, I 8

found this out Tuesday night [Nov. 4, 2020], they've taken 9

control, they have taken control of our society. 10

We have just one person, we just came from there in 11

the White House, standing in the way, and it is going to 12

mean, you don't fully realize it, but every one of us here, 13

every American out there, is going to have to stand up 14

We read about it in history. 15

We read about Normandy, and all that. 16

But now, we are in it. 17

And so, we must spread it. 18

We cannot surrender. 19

And the President said he wouldn't give up. 20

You all know that the attack on the Capitol was done 21

by Antifa, but it was enabled by McConnell, by Schumer, by 22

Pelosi, and the mayor [Muriel Bowser]. 23


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They knew that was coming. You've all been up there. 1

There were hardly any security police there, and they moved 2

in, and Antifa did their thing, then the media picked it up. 3

I worked for Fox for almost 17 years, and it is 4

disgraceful what they are doing. Unfortunately, Rupert 5

[Murdoch] is driving that with his sons, and they have now 6

merged with the rest of the mainstream media. 7

This is serious. This is expanding. We cannot let it 8

happen. We don't have four years. As Hong Kong has seen, we do 9

not have time. Time is against us. 10

Ann and I were just talking to someone about the 11

information that is being released that shows clearly in those 12

battleground states the cyberwarfare that was used. 13

We also found out, I found out yesterday, that 14

[James B.] Comey, the former FBI Director, sold the Hammer and 15

Scorecard, this top-secret program to the Chinese. 16

You now have this top-secret program that is like 17

your iPhone. It gets in, it’s called Hammer, it gets in to the 18

voting network, then it has an application, like on your 19

iPhone, you have all those apps. 20

It [Hammer] puts it on, and it modulates the voting 21

so they win. Not by a large number. 22

I got a call Tuesday night at 11:30 pm [Nov. 03, 23

2020, Election Day]that the ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence] 24

from Pakistan was now in the voting machines in Georgia. I 25


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called someone, let them know, the two [Republican] 1

candidates, Loeffler and Perdue [Sen. Kelly Loeffler nor David 2

Perdue], were ahead. 3

I watched. One hour later they were behind. 4

I thought that they should stop it. 5

I think their game plan is, no, let them do it. We 6

have this evidence. We will present this evidence to the 7

American people so we [pointing to the listeners in the hotel 8

lobby] can judge. We don't need someone to tell us. We can 9

tell when we have unconstitutional acts going against us. 10

And when you think about it, COVID-19, why are they 11

trying to kill our small businesses and make everybody 12

dependent on the government? 13

Democratic socialism is the front door to communism. 14

None of us ever thought that we would be in that 15

position today where this country became a communist society. 16

But think of what is happening right now in Twitter, 17

and Facebook. They won't let the President be on it. They're 18

censoring the President of the United States. 19

This is amazing, in our country, that we would have 20

ever thought this would happen. 21

That is why I was so disappointed in the Vice 22

President [Michael R. Pence]. He had the opportunity. Because, 23

if we had a 10-day audit, it would be very clear to all of us, 24


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and all 323 million Americans, whatever the number is today. 1

It would be very clear what has happened to our society. 2

So, God bless you. Let's keep fighting it. Let's 3

support this President and the people like ourselves that 4

understand what's happening in front of us. 5

We shall not let it happen. We cannot let it happen. 6

I never thought we'd have so many Americans who have 7

betrayed [us], and I believe it is for money, and the Chinese 8

are moving the money. 9

LISTENER: [Question and comment on Italy's role re. 10

Leonardo SpA satellite systems.] 11

LT. GEN. MCINERNEY: That's true. 12

There were many countries that were doing that 13

[changing US 2020 votes], but it had to be controlled from 14

China using Hammer and Scorecard, in my opinion, you cannot 15

have so many different attacks because you would be changing 16

numbers in all 50 states, it just wouldn’t match up. That has 17

to be synchronized. 18

And they all do it, like it was late at night. 19

This is a scorecard from Joseph Goebbels [Minister 20

of Propaganda of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945]. 21

[Goebbels:] “If you tell a lie big enough.” 22

That's what they are doing. 23

And you see Pelosi, you see Schumer. 24


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Ann [Vandersteel] just told me that Pelosi called 1

the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark 2

Milley, and they are trying to get him [President Trump] out 3

under the 25th Amendment, or to impeach him. 4

Why? 5

Well, because on Wednesday they took Pelosi's 6

laptop. She's frantic. 7

There were some people in there, [American] Special 8

Forces, mixed with Antifa, and they took her laptop, and they 9

have that data. So, you'd say, well look, you've only got 12 10

days, or whatever it is, until the 20th, why worry about it? 11

Just let him go out. 12

No, they are terrified because they [Special Forces 13

and President Trump] have that data. 14

I believe they also have a source that is talking 15

like song bird. 16

The president is going to spring that person on us 17

so that it will completely, completely change... because it is 18

someone who said, I'm not going to do this. This is treason, 19

remember, this is treason, high treason. 20

ANN VANDERSTEEL: Sir, could he use the Emergency 21

Broadcast System, Emergency Action Message to communicate 22

this? 23


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LT. GEN. MCINNERNEY: I don't know if you saw 1

yesterday, an email went around telling everybody about the 2

Emergency Broadcast System? 3

ANN VANDERSTEEL: I did. 4

LT. GEN. MCINNERNEY: So those little signals that 5

you see, you see that what I saw on September 18th or 19th, 6

Executive Order 2018, if foreigners were involved in the U.S. 7

election that the President could declare a national 8

emergency. 9

That means he knew back two years ago. 10

That is why it has just all come together that 11

COVID-19 is a biological attack. 12

Let's not say it was an accident and it slipped out 13

of a food market or anything. We're not that naïve anymore. 14

It's standard. Simultaneously remember, when was the 15

impeachment? 16

LISTENERS: Sametime. 17

LT. GEN. MCINNERNEY: December and January when 18

COVID-19 was coming in. So, they had that deception. 19

The media is just like now. 20

You look in the media [today] and all they are doing 21

is talking about Wednesday [Jan. 06, 2021]. So, something is 22

going on. [@48:03]. It's a distraction. 23

In military terms it is a tactical deception. 24


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LISTENER: And, Congress is using it as an excuse not to 1

give the delay [on the Electors vote], because they said, oh, 2

now it’s been violent, so [garbled]) 3

LT. GEN. MCINNERNEY: Yah, so that is how they played it. 4

And they knew it. 5

And, all I can say is, [with emphasis] we must stand 6

up. You are just like a young soldier at Normandy, or the 7

Battle of the Bulge. This is a critical time for the world. 8

Because if America goes down ... 9

... ah, my wife is ill. So, it was interesting that 10

this morning the night nurse, I've got 24x7 nurse care, so 11

that is why I'm here. The night nurse said, this is why we 12

came here. She came from Haiti. She said, this is what we tell 13

our... she's got twins, boy and a girl, 12 children, she said, 14

my husband and I tell them this is why we came here, for 15

freedom, she understands it. 16

So yes. 17

LISTENER: We have church networks across the 18

country. What would be certain points we need to communicate 19

to all our church networks around the country? 20

LT. GEN. MCINNERNEY: Well, I was on with Carla Dean 21

[sp?] last night and there were like 625 civic leaders, and 22

that's the question they asked me. 23


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I think what we need to communicate is, back the 1

President, tell him how serious this is. This is not just a 2

fraudulent election; it is changing our whole lifestyle. 3

It's engineered. It's coordinated, COVID-19, it has 4

to be. Look at this. What is going on? 5

We think it is because of medical. 6

Dr. Fauci tells us, well, we've got to shut 7

everything down. 8

Look at what they have done to the world. 9

And look at the Republicans, the depth of this 10

corruption. 11

I had a call from a chap who was a Congressman in 12

Georgia. And he called me, trying to get General Flynn, 13

because he's talking about corruption in other areas, what 14

they have done. 15

As I said, it’s just yesterday they found out that 16

Comey sold the Hammer and Scorecard system to the Chinese. 17

So, we've got a problem. 18

Now, I happened to see this four years ago because I 19

was the Air [Force] Attaché in London. 20

I was Vice Commander of 111 Wing in England, and I 21

was the Commander of the 3rd Air Force when we attacked 22

Tripoli in 1986, Kaddafi. 23

I know that GCHQ [Government Communications 24

Headquarters], which is the [UK] government communications 25


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headquarters, which is our equivalent of Fort Meade, NSA, 1

Signals Intelligence. And ah, what is important about it when 2

it started the Russian Collusion, I saw how the information 3

was coming out of the United Kingdom. 4

They [British Intelligence] were falsifying it, 5

creating all this so and so said he's Russian. 6

Well, that's the Saul Alinsky model. They were 7

doing, they were accusing President Trump of doing what 8

[emphasis] they were doing. Hillary paid 'em. 9

So, if you see the corruptness that's going on, and 10

it’s been how many years it’s been going on. 11

Why did President Obama move to Calor-rama less than 12

three miles as the crow flies, have Valerie Jarrett move in 13

with them with her husband, and put a SCIF [Sensitive 14

Compartmented Information Facility] in his home? 15

Because of signals intelligence. 16

Now, that's the danger. 17

You asked the right question. 18

I don't know exactly what we need to do. Except, we 19

must understand that this is pervasive. That this has cut 20

through our whole society. 21

Every senator and house member of the Democrats know 22

that Biden was elected unconstitutionally. 23

I mean, is that the model for the future? 24

Stay in your basement? 25


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Have one rally with 14 people in the care blowing 1

their horns? Please. 2

It doesn't pass the sniff test. 3

Wake up America. 4

That's what we've got to tell our neighbors. That's 5

what we've got to tell our church groups. 6

And the people that say, well there's no evidence, 7

there's tons of evidence. Look for it. 8

But how much has Fox News gone out? And I just 9

started the first of November [2020], a single person. 10

I don't have people helping me. You know, except Ann 11

[Vandersteel] and these types of people who are on the air. 12

But the fact is, they have not investigated when 13

they say that they did, that this is not real, that there 14

isn't evidence. 15

What have they done to investigate it? 16

LISTENER: Nancy Pelosi's laptop, is it with the FBI 17

today? 18

LT. GEN. MCINNERNEY: Well, I wouldn't give it to the 19

FBI. It's somewhere else. Ann's got pictures of it. 20

I thought that was counter-information operations 21

honestly. But I've seen the laptop our Special Forces took 22

out. 23

That's why she's [Rep. Pelosi] so frantic. 24


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Think about it. You've only got 12 days to the 20th, 1

today's the 8th, 12 days. Well, let him go out. 2

But they're calling for, she calls the Chairman of 3

the Joint Chiefs of Staff. 4

The Vice President [Pence] misses the opportunity 5

to. And unfortunately, I believe the Vice President has 6

committed treason. 7

Now, never would I have thought in these halls, 8

after walking through the White House, and when my last job in 9

the Air Force, when I was No. 3 man in the Air Force, on the 10

air staff, and I also did Vice President Gore's Reinventing 11

Government. 12

I would go to the White House every two weeks; with 13

the whole federal government I was the one person who 14

represented the Department of Defense for Vice President 15

Gore's Reinventing Government. 16

I never would have thought what has transpired since 17

that time frame. 18

And so, tell everybody. 19

Wake up America. 20

This is serious stuff. 21

We're thinking what those soldiers that went across 22

the Delaware in 1776 with George Washington. 23

That's where you are now. 24

That's where we are. 25


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