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IEEE P802.15Wireless Personal Area Networks

Project IEEE P802.15 Working Group for Wireless Personal Area Networks (WPANs)

Title <IEEE802.15 WG minutes>

Date Submitted

[17 Sep, 2004]

Source [Pat Kinney][<Kinney Consulting LLC>][St Charles, IL]

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Re: [802.15 Interim Meeting in Berlin, Germany]

Abstract [IEEE 802.15 Working Group Minutes]

Purpose [Official minutes of the Working Group Session]

Notice This document has been prepared to assist the IEEE P802.15. It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein.

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Submission Pat Kinney, Kinney Consulting LLC

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IEEE 802.15 Interim Meeting – Session #32Estrel Hotel, Sonnenallee 225

Berlin, Germany 11-17 September 2004

Sunday, 11 September 20049:07P 802.15 Chair called the Executive Committee Session to order. Attendees:

Bob Heile, Tom Siep, John Boot, Chuck Brabenic, Rick Alfvin, James Gilb, John Barr, Jim Allen, Karen Kenney, Judy Gorman, Jon Rosdahl, Erwin Noble, Chandros Rypinski, Jay Bain, Pat Kinney, Reed Fisher, Steve Shellhammer, Stuart Kerry, Greg Rasor, Jack Pardee, and Robert Poor.Final Payment to Ideal

Chair noted that we had two stable sessions and that we had committed to Ideal to release the final $10,000 payment to Ideal. Chair noted that if we pay the $10,000 we would get the source code. Chair recommended approving this payment. Rick Alfvin moved to pay Ideal the $10,000. John Barr seconded this motion. John Boot asked as to the ability to change this code in the future. Chair noted that due to a disagreement between 802.15/802.11 and Ideal on the subject of future arrangements we would probably change services in the future and therefore there should be no changes to this software. Following no objections the motion passes.

Registration Fee WaiversMotion: to waive the registration fee for Karen Kenney and Judy Gorman. Moved by Rick Alfvin and seconded by Robert Poor. Following neither discussion nor objection the motion passes.

Stuart Kerry noted that these two motions were passed by 802.11 in their Executive Committee Session.CAC:

TG1a by T Siep: sponsor ballot comment resolution will require all week.SG1b by T Siep: will decide if they should go forward if so then


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create PAR and 5CTG3a by B Heile: S Wood requested that consultants should declare affiliations. TG3a will ask for consultant affiliation. Tom asked for a definition of affiliation. Chuck asked if TG3a was the right forum for this statement. Chair noted that the intention was not to release their customer list. The intent is to do a primary task not the customer list. Judy noted that if there are multiple clients then you should mention that there are multiple clients. Karen noted that when 802.20 started listed affiliations some consultants listed multiple. John Boot noted that since this meeting was being held in Germany that this procedure should be checked against German law. Erwin commented that we are attending as individuals not as company representatives and disagreed with this declaration requirement. Tom Siep stated that if consultants were to tell its contractual relationships then it should be required that companies advise the IEEE of their contractual relationships with other companies. Chair read the 802.20 affiliation rule and the ANSI rules on this subject. John Boot commented that US law was applicable as well as German law.John Barr noted that a decision was made and that we are being held to that decision without any information as to how that decision was made nor without any representation from this group. Karen noted that all IEEE decisions are not consensus driven. John Barr followed up that IEEE 802.15 was being asked to follow different rules than 802.20. Rick Alfvin asked the definition of a consultant. Karen noted that there was no definition of a consultant. Tom asked if he would be ruled out of order if we stated that his affiliation was a senior partner for his own corporation. The Chair stated that there would be sanctions against a person if that person misrepresented themselves. Greg Rasor wanted to know the basis of the intent of this affiliation requirement. Karen wanted to describe the three different methodologies that would be put in place to keep dominance from any one firm including affiliation declaration, and anonymous ballots. Chair described the use of anonymous voting; every voter would fill out a ballot, come forward to the front of the room and be recognized as a valid voter, and the ballot place into the ballot box. Jack Pardee


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noted that this was one part of a solution to a suggested problem, however it was noted that there were very few consultants among the whole voter pool of 802.15. Jack further noted that this affiliation requirement would require a violation of existing NDAs. Chuck Brabenec noted a differentiation between manufacturers and consulting companies. Chuck then suggested a difference between small consulting companies and large companies. Judy made a comment on the size of companies noting that that the IEEE had not requirements for balance at the WG level but perhaps it should. Judy furthered that bringing in a change midstream is better than allowing a deadlock to continue. Tom Siep noted that rules were supposed to protect the small from the large and that this ruling was against that precept. Tom commented that if we had no definition of consultant and participation then we must not have this change. John Barr expressed his dismay at having no consensus in this decision. John furthered that the intent of this issue was dominance as expressed by ANSI and this process would not resolve this issue. Robert Poor expressed concern over the size differentiation and the fact that large companies put a restraint on how their employees vote. How does this comply with the European data protection directive? Judy had not addressed this question. Chuck suggested that it might get asked as to who is paying who to go to these meetings. Greg suggested that there might be an IEEE liability due to small companies suing the IEEE due to this action. Judy expressed that the idea driving this action was towards “one company, one vote”. Greg noted that Motorola was a collection of many corporations. Judy followed that the IEEE did not believe that the current situation must change but may not change at this meeting. Erwin noted that associations were as much of a concern as companies. Tom suggested that if the intent is one company, one vote then we should discuss this idea first. Jack noted that the infringement of a consultant’s right to keep their customers secret was being done without any benefit to the group at large. Chair recessed the meeting for ten minutes.John Barr pointed out the requirement as to companies declaring what consultants they have hired was inappropriate since the attendees were attending as individuals. Chair noted that based on this discussion the issue will be studied at


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greater length and that affiliation declaration would not be required at the Berlin meeting. Chair noted that we would proceed forward with anonymous voting, proceed with door monitoring, and ensuring attendance validity. TG3b by John Barr: initial draft by end of weekTG4a by Pat Kinney: hearing preliminary presentations along with finishing up channel modeling.TG4b by Robert Poor: on track towards a draft due for NovemberTG5 by John Boot: same as last time but has some responses to their CFP.

11:08 Meeting recessed until Thursday morningMonday, 12 September 20048:10 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, 802.20, and 802.21 Chairs called the joint

meeting to order. IEEE 802.15 attendance is included as Annex A. There were 54 new attendees.Announcements Review IEEE, 802 LMSC, 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, 802.20, &

802.21 802, 802.11, & 802.15 Policies and Procedures (IEEE802.11-004/424r4)

802.11 vice chair read the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards

There were no questions from attendees concerning this policyo Online attendance recording & document # requests

o Bylaw Changes

o Wireless Network and Network Cards

IP statements (Letters of Assurance - LOA)o Upon a call by the 802.11 WG chair on LOA for any of the

802.11/15/18/19/20/21 WGs: Stuart mentioned a patent on mesh networks from TI, and

that TI has not responded to three emails from Stuart Airspace Inc submitted a LOA concerning 802.11i


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8:32 Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-04-818-03-0000) Following neither discussion nor objections the agenda was

approved.Review and approve joint minutes from the Portland meeting

Upon neither discussion nor objections the joint minutes were approved.

8:33 Summary of key working group/802 events/activities o Online attendance recording & document# requests

o Review Interim meetings

Jan 16, 2004 is Hyatt Monterey May 15, 2005 is Sydney at Hyatt Sep 18, 2005 could be Alaska, St Louis, or New York city Jan 2006 venue is being worked (Hawaii, Cancun, etc.) May (possibly Yokahama, Korea, or Istanbul)

o Financials/ Interim meeting (04-15-0495-0000):

Surplus of $82,230.86 from Anaheim Projected surplus of $27,456 for Berlin Registration: 537 early, 118 late, 17 onsite Treasury: August 2004 $45,935.31

8:40 Report on EXCOM activities and plans8:41 Task group/Study group reports

802.21 Media Independent Handoff Working Group Activities & Plans by Ajay Rajkumar: WG21 is reviewing and closing handover requirements, usage scenarios, and liaising with IETF.

802.20 Mobile Broadband Wireless Access WG: Jerry Upton (20-04/075). This week will be spent working on the closure of the requirements, channel and traffic models, evaluation criteria, coexistence and other business.

802.19 Wireless Coexistence TAG by S Shellhammer (19-04/030): TAG19 is reviewing process for P&P changes for coexistence, and


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submissions on coexistence.8:55 802.15 Wireless Personal Area Networks

15.1a Bluetooth v1.2 by Tom Siep: Sponsor ballot closed on 10 September with 83% approve. 375 comments will be resolved this week.15.1b Study group by T Siep: discussing whether to do a PAR on the enhanced data rate features15.3a alternate PHY for .3- B Heile: proceeding on down selection process. The second confirmation vote will be held Wednesday morning.15.3b MAC enhancements – J Barr: looking to come out of this week with a draft.15.3c by Reed Fisher: SG 3c is reviewing submissions looking to complete the Par and 5C15.4a alternate low rate PHY by Pat Kinney: Objectives are to finish channel model and selection criteria documents and listen to preliminary presentations. 15.4b revision to TG4 by Robert Poor: TG4b is agreeing on the changes to the MAC and looking for completion on this task in November.802.15 Working Group 263 voters, 39 nearly voters.

9:05 Report on IEEE 802.11 membership (11-04-1038-00-0000):Voters: 411Nearly: 122 Aspirants 349Total names 1869

Approval of 802.11 agenda (11-04/818) Motion to approve the agenda was made by Collin Lanzyl and seconded by Jon Rosdahl. Following neither discussion nor objections the agenda is approvedFollowing neither discussion nor objections the 802.11 previous minutes were approvedWG Policies & Procedures were read by Harry Worster.


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9:09 802.11 wireless local area networks Task Group e - MAC enhancements (QoS) by J Fakatselis: TGe completed another sponsor ballot and will be working on comment resolution. TG3 is looking to go to RevCom in December.TGj: Japanese - Shang Li. Draft 16 has been submitted to RevCom.TGk: Radio Resource Measurement Group- Richard Paine. Objective is to resolve comments from the latest LB.TGm by Robert O’Hara, Standard Maintenance: three items: interpretation request and two submissions (country code not tied to a country, and changes to multi-rate that were made by TGg).TGn: Bruce Kraemer-High Throughput: TGn is beginning to hear technical proposal presentations.TGr Fast Roaming by Clint Chaplin: A call for interest to propose has gone out.TGs (ESS Mesh Networking) by Don Eastlake: Sixteen presentations, concentrating on definition of terms and applications.TGt (formerly WPP) by Charles Wright: listening to technical presentations on test templates and metrics for wireless performanceStudy Group WNG – Globalization and Harmonization of 5 GHz by TK Tan. APf by Dorothy Stanley: working on describing Access Point functionality.Study Group Wave by Lee Armstrong: Reviewing the current draft. Study Group Wien - Wireless Internetworking with EXTERNAL NETWORKS by Steven McCann. Looking to complete the PAR and 5C.Study Group Wnn (Wireless Network Management) by Harry Worster: This group will be working on the PAR and 5C and task group chair nominations.

9:28 Old Business - Kerry/Heile 9:29 New Business 9:31 Adjourned joint 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, 802.20, and 802.21 meeting


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Wednesday, 15 September 200410:38am WG chair called the meeting to order.

WG Chair made announcements concerning the social. Chair asked all attendees to read and understand the IEEE policy. Filings should be done on the PatCom website.

Motion: to approve the agenda (15-04-531-01-0000) was made by T Siep with R Alfvin seconding. Hearing neither objections nor discussion the agenda passed by unanimous consent

Motion: to approve the minutes from last meeting (15-04-0329-00-0000_WG-minutes-from-Portland-2004.doc) was moved by I Gifford and seconded by J Boot. Hearing neither objections nor discussion the agenda passed by unanimous consent. There were no matters arising from the minutes.

10:50 TG1a summary and status update by T SiepTG1a has completed its 1st pass through comment resolution (~350). There was one “no” vote with two comments that have been declined. I Gifford asked about the procedure on comment resolutions from the Bluetooth side. T Siep will advise the commenter as to which comments were floated back to the Bluetooth SIG.

10:51 SG1b summary and status update by T Siep SG1b has not been able to have any formal meetings due to lack of attendance but informal talks indicate that should go ahead and create a PAR and 5C which is proposed to be presented by the 17 September plenary meeting. J Barr asked if this effort should be moved to the ISTO. Reply was that this action is not appropriate at this time. J Gilb suggested that this group should stop assisting the Bluetooth SIG.

10:57 TG3a status by B Heile The second confirmation vote failed 46% to 54%. We are now back to step 4. This afternoon will be hearing two technical presentations.

10:59 TG3b status by J Barr


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This group is working on the first draft. This group is also working on a conformance PAR request to describe what constitutes conformance to the 15.3 MAC.

11:00 TG4a status by P KinneyTG4a is hearing preliminary presentations, presentations on ranging, revising the SCD, hearing further discussion on channel model, and hearing a report from the extended range committee.

11:02 TG4b status by R PoorThere has been effort on a merged synchronization proposal from Ember and Mitsubishi. On PHY the four proposers have agreed in principal to merge.

11:04 TG5 status by John BootThree detailed responses to the CFA. This group is 50% through the technical requirements document.

11:05 SG3c mmWave study group by Reed FisherSG3c has completed a draft of a PAR and 5C and is listening to technical contributions.

11:06 PC update by G Rasor (IEEE 802 news bulletin)Greg asked for input by close of business on Friday.

11:08 TGn Issues Discussion by J AllenTGn is discussing changing to 40 MHz channels instead of the current 20 MHz. Jim wondered if this would cause coexistence issues. T Siep stated that TAG 19 has started to look into this issue.

11:14 Meeting recessed, next meeting is on Friday.

Friday, 17 September, 20048:09 WG chair called the meeting to order (agenda 04/531r1)8:12 Treasury update from John Barr (15-04-0495-01-0000)

o registration of 537 early, 113 late, 88 onsite 724 total

o Reg: $809,556 (aus$)


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o Expenses: $304,100 fixed, $361,500 variable

o $919 Aus$ cost per person

o Surplus of $49,608 (US)

8:17 802.19 TAG by Tom Siep (15-04-0534-00-0000)

8:22 Closing report for TG1a by T Siep (04/551r0)Motion: WG approves ballot comment resolution and directs TG1a editor to apply edits specified in 15-04-0549-00-001a-TG1a-sponsor-ballot-results-resolution.xls and request start of 10-day Sponsor Ballot recirculation as soon as practical.Moved by Tom Siep and seconded by James Gilb. Following neither discussion nor objection the motion carries by unanimous consent.

8:25 Closing report for SG1b by T Siep (04/552r0)8:27 Closing report for TG3a by B Heile

The second confirmation vote will continue at the San Antonio meeting. No voters were requested to post the reason for their no vote to the ftp site.

8:29 Closing report for TG3b by J Barr (15-04-0510-01-003b)8:34 TG4a closing report by Pat Kinney (15-04-0517-01-004a)

8:37 TG4b closing report by Robert Poor (15-04-0538-00-004b)8:42 TG5 closing report by John Boot (15-04-0549-00-0050)8:44 SG4c closing report by Reed Fisher (15-04-0554-00-003c)8:50 Conformance PAR by Jim Allen

Jim discussed the Conformance PAR which describes a test methodology to show conformance to a standard. Jim stated that TG3 will be writing a conformance PAR.

8:51 TGe liaison report by J Bain (15-04-0553-00-0000)TGe has completed its first recirculation of its sponsor ballot and has also completed comment resolution. TGe will recirculate draft 10 after this meeting.


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8:55 TGn liaison report by J Allen (15-04-0544-01-0000)TGn listened to all 32 presentations under special orders to ensure the times for each presentation. Many presentations included data aggregation and others increased the band to 40 MHz. TGn will have panel discussions in November.

9:02 WNG by J Karaoguz (15-04-0550-01-0000)9:11 1394TA liaison by Peter Johansson (15-04-0523-00-000)

This group approved an effort to revise 802.15.3 PAL to include the changes as per TG4b and to create a PAL for the MBOA MAC.

9:15 Bluetooth SIG report by Rick NoensRick is putting together a proposal as to how the SIG and the IEEE could work better.

9:16 CEA report by B HeileThe CEA has an ongoing effort underway to characterize wireless standards that are being used in the marketplace.

9:18 ZigBee liaison by P KinneyZigBee standard is due for possible release in Q4, 2004.

9:20 PC report by G Rasor Greg advised the group that the IEEE 802 Standards news bulletin web site (http://standards.ieee.org/wireless/) was the appropriate vehicle for IEEE announcements.

9:24 Policies and ProceduresChair advised the group that the 802 rules, which have precedence over 802.15 rules, is under change so until that effort is done we will not work on 802.15 rule changes.

9:25 Future MeetingsNovember 14 – 19, 2004 is in San Antonio at the Hyatt, January 16-21, 2005 will be in Monterey at the Hyatt, March 13 – 18, 2005 is at Atlanta, May 15 – 20, 2005 will in Sydney at the Hilton, July 17 -22 2005, will be at the Hyatt in San Francisco, Sept 18 – 23, 2005 will be either at Alaska, St Louis and NYC, Nov 18-22, 2005 will be at the Hyatt Vancouver, the Jan 2006 is TBD but Hawaii, Cancun, and other cities are being considered, March 12-


http://standards.ieee.org/wireless/

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17, 2006 will be at the Hyatt Regency in New Orleans, May 2006 will be either Istanbul, Yokahama, Seoul, or Tapei, July 16 -21, 2006 will be at the Manchester Hyatt in San Diego, Sep 2006 is TBD, and Nov 12-16, 2006will be at the Hyatt in downtown Dallas.

9:33 New Business: None9:34 Motion to adjourn was made by Kai Siwiak, seconded by J Gilb, following

neither discussion nor objection the motion carried, the session is adjourned.Annex A Attendance = 243


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