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People Too Often Invest When They Should Trade and Trade When They Should Invest—Mike Swanson (03/26/2017)
The graphic above is something I have
put in these PDF updates from time to time to
show the psychological shifts that people ex-
perience through the various market cycles.
You can look at the smaller stage analysis
graphic and line them up together.
However, there is another probably more
important shift that takes place for market
players during these cycles that no one has
really talked about and that is what people
actually do to try to make money in these
various stages.
I’ve been doing this now for over 17
years and have seen bull and bear cycles play
Contents
Market Internals Continue to
Fade in Slow Motion Market
Drop...p.6.
Gold Stocks Big Consoli-
dation Zone...p.8.
Gold Stocks to Move
Soon...p.11.
How to Place Stop Or-
ders….p.12.
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out for people and myself multiple times and in multiple markets. Not
just the US stock market, but gold in particular. I know what I have done
myself and seen what others have done. I have communicated with many peo-
ple in emails, message boards, and even real time chat rooms back in the
internet day trading days. I have seen a lot of marketing over the years
on the internet and seen shifts in fads.
After the 2008 crash a lot of people got out of the stock market in
2009 and then in 2010 and 2011. During those years following 2008 more
money was taken out of the market by small investors than put into it.
At the same time a mania developed in FOREX trading during those
years. In google search more people were looking up terms relating to
FOREX trading than trading stocks. Then there was a boom in “binary op-
tions,” which is practically a scam.
What happened was there was an element in the trading world that lost
money in the stock market in 2008 then went into FOREX and lost money
there and then went into binary options.
Back in 1999 everyone was investing in the stock market and buying
big cap internet stocks such as Oracle and Cisco as safe investments.
They’d try to trade the volatile internet stocks and try to hold these
blue chips as investments.
And of course those people lost money. I had setup a live real time
chat room in 2000 and was shorting stocks myself. But almost all of the
people in it had zero interest in doing that. When they sold the stocks
they bought most of them decided to try to become internet stock traders,
jumping in and out of them. I shut down the chat room, because no one
cared in it about shorting and I just didn’t want to sit there all day
long talking to people. I even got someone else to run it so I did not
have to do that. It was a waste of time.
Then in 2002 I got into trading gold mining stocks. I tried to short
the stock market in 2003 too and would get stopped out and stopped doing
that and then solely focused on trading gold stocks up until 2008. Then I
got into shorting the stock market again that summer.
The reason I am telling you this is that most people in the financial
markets focus on one idea to make money and one strategy. Then they keep
doing it until the big trend changes. Most fail to adapt to that fact and
lose money. They then get out of the market forever or move on to looking
for another strategy to try to make money with. For those that do that
they usually go from being investors who lost to traders.
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I really did not know anyone personally who went into FOREX trading
after 2008. But I got dozens of emails, perhaps hundreds, from people who
lost money in 2008 and then decided to become ETF traders, mainly in 2X
and 3X short ETF’s such as the banking ETF’s or in trading gold stock
ETF’s.
What happened was that most of these people were investors before the
2008 crash. They may have been investing and holding gold stocks or DOW
stocks or mutual funds. It didn’t matter what they were holding they
lost. And then they became traders.
In 2009 though the stock market bottomed and that was actually the
time to buy. I didn’t buy on the bottom. I only adjusted that summer.
So I’m not trying to tell you I’m perfect. I’m trying to tell you
that there is a cycle that the people dominating the action on online bro-
kers go through in which not only their beliefs about the market change,
but their actions change too.
People got into the stock market in the late 1990’s, because they saw
it go up for years and decided they wanted to be a part of the action.
They were told that Alan Greenspan would cut rates on any market drop and
so it was safe and they saw stocks fly.
And so they piled in during 1999 to invest. Many lost in the subse-
quent bear market to give up on the stock market forever. I know people
who owned Amazon and Corning that thought they could hold it in 1999 and
get rich who ended up selling later and never buying a share of stock ever
again.
But now at this moment in time the stock market has gone up for a
long-time. It’s been years since 2009. And when the DOW broke 20,000 the
stock market began to go up without pulling back and the risks seemed to
be gone forever. And so more money has piled into ETF’s in the past three
months than in any annual twelve month period in the history of ETF’S. At
the same time market trading volume is lower now than it was last year.
What is happening is that people now are buying ETF’s not with the
notion that they want to trade them, but to invest! People are once again
true believers in the stock market just as they were in 1999 and in 2007.
The people dominating the market action today are not traders, but
investors. They don’t think they need to think about risks and they find
any reason to believe that the stock market will just keep going up for
them, because that is what they want to believe.
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And right now the financial media is catering to them, not because
market commentators are trying to trick people, but because they believe
too.
Back in November after Trump won I closed out my short positions and
went long and recommended going long ETF’s VIS, XLF, and IYT. I sold
around New Years and got back in and then sold probably for good a few
days before the March peak.
In November there was talk that Trump would create tax cuts and in-
frastructure programs to grow the economy. He looked like he could be a
good strong leader the first few days in office, but since then his poll
numbers have dropped. He has made statements that have hurt his credibil-
ity with the American power elite in DC and with much of the general pub-
lic. And this past week he suffered a defeat with his health care bill.
This puts to doubt his ability to create the type of programs it
seemed he was going to be able to do a few months ago - at least to the
extent that it seemed possible.
However, after yesterday’s defeat in the financial media all I saw
was talk that none of this mattered. The talking heads and writers either
said that Trump programs don’t matter and the stock market will go up or
that he will still do something later in the Fall or next year and people
will just look forward to that.
There is a story on Yahoo Finance this morning that sums up what peo-
ple are saying: Why Heatlcare bill failure won’t kill Trump rally:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/healthcare-bill-failure-wont-derail-the-
markets-trump-rally-154837564.html
The point is that people were putting their faith in Trump helping
make the stock market go up in November and now most of the people in the
stock market and in the media who are bullish are simply saying the speed
bumps he is hitting don’t matter or he doesn’t matter himself.
In reality “news” doesn’t matter to people in the markets. People do
not really buy or sell stocks based on news and in a way they shouldn’t.
What they really do though is react purely to price action. The rea-
son why people decided to invest in the stock market in 1999 and in the
past few months to try to buy and hold forever is because they saw the
stock market go up for years. And once in such people continue to believe
and find reasons to believe until prices fall so much that they cannot
take it anymore.
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When the stock market goes into a bear market most of these people
will wipe out to give up on the financial markets forever, but many of
them will decide that investing is bad and try to become market traders.
Some will try to short stocks after they see a giant decline and others
will sell the ETF”s they are buying as investments now and then try to be-
come traders who trade 2X and 3X ETF’s jumping in and out. In the end
they’ll miss the great next bottom buy point when it comes, because they
will be trying to become traders when they should then be investors.
Right now while everyone in the stock market thinks it’s a great in-
vestment that will not drop again and almost no one wants to invest in
gold or mining stocks. Those that are involved with them are trying to
trade them and not invest. There is very little interest among small in-
vestors in buying junior mining stocks or buying stocks such as Newmont or
Barrick as investments while putting money into marijuana stocks and com-
panies like Nividia and Facebook is the current rage just as Oracle and
Cisco were in 1999.
With gold and miners there is very little interest in the idea of
buying and holing gold mining stocks. The interest in the sector is with
people wanting to trade, and they typically are attracted to the idea of
jumping in and out of triple ETF’s. It will only be after gold and the
miners go up for a few years and after the stock market causes them to
lose money that the masses will get interested in investing in them.
Gold stocks are actually hard to invest in, because they are so vola-
tile. Last year they more than doubled from their lows of January, but
then they fell roughly 50% when they peaked in the summer.
It’s pretty much impossible to keep 100% of your money in something
that can double an then fall 50%. The only way to be able invest in some-
thing like that is not to put 100% of your money in it, but only a portion
of your money instead! That’s why I have 20% of the model reblanacing
portfolio in the GDX ETF and not 100%.
If you put 100% of your money into it or even 30% you’ll find it im-
possible to be able to hold it and will get shaken out. In reality the
same thing is true for the US stock market too! And any market. That’s
why when people try to put 100% of their money into something as an in-
vestment and it then goes into a bear market they then decide to become
traders.
But in reality investing is smart. You just don’t put 100% of your
money into something when you do it.
Right now the model rebalancing portfolio is 40% in cash and 20% in-
vested each in GDX, CEF/GLD, and HDGE, which is an ETF to short the US
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stock market. When I look at all of my own accounts together I’m about
40% in cash right now too. My plan is to WAIT for the time being for a
trade to develop. I may buy more gold stocks through the GDX as a TRADING
position or bet against the stock market more in the coming weeks or
months as I think there is a good chance we actually have seen the top of
many stocks at the start of this month and are making a slow transition
into a full blown bear market. But we will know for sure, by watching how
the internals of the market act over the next 3-60 days.
MARKET INTERNALS CONTINE TO FADE IN SLOW MOTION MARKET DROP
Even though the market averages remain well extended from their 200-
day moving averages only 66.54% of stocks trading on the NYSE are above
those moving averages. We have put in some sort of peak in the DOW and
S&P 500 to start this month while the Russell 2000 and DOW Transportation
averages are fading fast.
The market is likely to drift lower for at least the next few weeks
and then put on some sort of bounce. The drop that has occurred has been
so slow that no one is noticing it at all. We’ll see what happens, but
the S&P 500 has support at the 50-day moving average. It basically closed
on that Friday.
If that breaks next support is the 2300 level and then in the area of
its 150/200-day moving averages and the 1/3 retracement level of the en-
tire rally since last February. That’s the 2175-2233 zone. A move to
there could take up to sixteen weeks from here to play out as things are
moving in such slow motion.
It’s impossible to predict exact price movements, but what is going
to be the important thing to watch is how the internals act when the mar-
ket has its next bounce or rally. If the internals lag the market on such
a bounce then they will tell us that a major top has been put in during
this summer and we can expect a significant decline in the Fall to mark
the start of a likely bear market. At the least it would be a drop that
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would bring panic into the market. Stocks are simply highly valued and
bear markets are inevitable. We have a market also helped by share buy-
backs that can end if junk bond yields continue to rise at some point. If
the market does fall most people though will blame it on Trump when this
is mostly a crazy market situation he has inherited. People always look
for reasons to explain stock market moves after they happen.
The thing to do is not to get worked up one way or the other with
news surrounding Donald Trump (there are so many that worship him as a na-
tional savior and many that hate him right now and he is dominating the
news cycle nonstop) that you lose track of what real trends of the market,
because as investors and traders they are what matter.
And classic tops are made with poor internals. If the internals are
good on the next rally then we’ll know the bull market is going to con-
tinue. But I suspect they will be bad and if they are I will increase my
HDGE position in the model rebalancing portfolio and take more short posi-
tions. I’ll probably even make a put options package for people to use in
their own portfolio to hedge if they choose also. All of that would
likely be several months away from now, but they could end up being one of
the most important stock market turning points of our lifetime.
Now I also have core positions in gold and mining stocks as I believe
they started new bull markets last year. In the first year of big bull
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markets you typically see big fast gains and then you get a consolidation
period that can last from three months to up to ten or twelve months. And
that’s what is still going on with both gold and the mining stocks.
GOLD STOCKS BIG CONSOLIDATION ZONE
In bull markets and bear markets and during consolidation phases the
upper 200-day Bollinger Band tends to act as big resistance and the lower
band tends to act as long term support. I’m expecting a move in mining
stocks to begin soon that will take the GDX up to the upper band or to the
lower band, with the first scenario being the most likely.
However, I cannot predict that if the GDX rallies here that it would
just go through and break the summer higher and just take off from there
or if it would pullback from there again or pause in a range around those
highs to consolidate for a few months and then breakout. There is just no
way to predict the future like that. But I do think if we rally here
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we’re going to see the GDX go up faster and further than most seem to be
expecting now with gold likely to go above $1,300 into the $1,350 area
again this summer.
I’ve got a chart of the HUI below from 20001-2008, because I want to
show you how the 200-day Bollinger Bands acted as support and resistance
levels during that bull market cycle. You can see that there were several
long drawn out consolidation periods in which they did this. Again it is
typical for these Bollinger Bands to act as important levels in ANY mar-
ket.
That’s why I think it would be easy for GDX to rally up to the 30
area, which is where the upper 200-day Bollinger Band is and still be in a
consolidation zone.
Now I took a big lesson from this chart below. I talked earlier
about how people go from being investors to traders, because they realize
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they cannot buy and hold with all of their money in a market drop. That
is what happened to me with the mining stocks in 2002. I put 100% of my
money into them that January and saw them more than double and then sold
for a 10% or so gain! I lost like 90% of my profits in a few days and
only made 10%!
So I decided they were too volatile to hold and I traded in and out
of them for the next few years. Looking back at it all though I found
that if I just put 20% of my money into them instead of trying to trade in
and out with all of my money I actually would have made a bit more in the
end and would have had a much easier time of it. It’s simply impossible
to trade something over and over again and get it right every single time.
I also learned that if you only put 20% of your money into something
that gives you the opportunity to put more portions of your money into
other trends and opportunities so you can be better diversified. And when
you have less of your money in something you can then be objective about
it.
When people have 100% of their money in something they then become
true believers who just look to reconfirm their positions. That’s why all
the people who said Trump was going to create a boom in December now are
saying that it doesn’t mean anything when the health care bill didn’t pass
last week for the future of the bull market.
GOLD STOCKS TO MAKE A MOVE SOON
A few weeks ago I paired
back my GDX position before it
dropped into the Fed meeting and
then put it back to 20% last
weekend when wrote that I thought
it was lining up to make a big
move soon. I said I might also
buy more for a pure trading posi-
tion if the GDX continued to go
sideways in the triangle pattern
I have drawn on the chart.
It’s still pausing and doing
that. Now the 20-day Bollinger
Bands are getting closer together
and the width indicator has
fallen towards 10. If the GDX
continues to pause another day or
two and then goes through its
most recent resistance point of
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$23.50 then I believe it begin a rally up to the summer higher. If it
pauses and breaks out like that I may buy more GDX for a trading position.
However, if I buy a trading a position I will likely sell it at some
point in the summer and take the profits and hold my core position. I
also for a core position in my accounts have been buying individual big
cap stocks as an alternative to GDX.
I was going to write a report this weekend on these stocks and why
I’m buying them instead of simply buying GDX with some of my money, but
I’m going to do that in a two part series with a video today and PDF with
the stocks in a few days.
There are a few reasons I think this chart pattern can go to the up-
side. First of all the commercial gold traders barely added on to their
short positions last week and the week before as gold rallied they actu-
ally paired their positions down to near where they were back in January
as gold.
However, we may see gold dip $10-$20 first before the GDX breaks out.
That could happen overnight on a gap down. And the gold stocks are still
doing ok compared to gold, but not substantially. That can change though
if gold were to gap down one morning.
If gold stocks are going to end up falling instead of going up here
it would probably take a couple of days of gold going up while the stocks
don’t for the GDX/GLD ratio to form a negative divergence ahead of a drop
like they did at the end of February.
So this pattern should resolve before the end of this week as the 20-
day Bollinger Bands are tightening. I like the 200-day Bollinger Bands to
understand the larger trends and the 20-day for short-term trading setups.
Rarely will you see the 20-day Bollinger Bands get those close together
with gold stocks in a triangle pattern like this. It is very similar to a
pattern that happened during the long consolidation phase that took place
with the mining stocks from the summer of 2001 to the summer of 2002.
HOW TO PLACE STOP ORDERS
Last week someone sent me an email asking about where to put a stop
loss order if they bought GDX:
“Assume you buy gdx at these prices"
Gdx buy price is 23.2, for a 35 % of your account. What should the stop price?
Is 22.37 too tight for gold stocks? Or $22.11 (1.5 ATR)?”
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I actually think 22.37 or 22.11 is way too tight of a place to put a
stop loss order. I do think GDX $23.50 is the key resistance point at
this moment, but I have no way to guarantee that it won’t go through
$22.37 before it goes through $23.50.
The thing you need to really ask is how much of GDX do you want to
buy. GDX is very volatile and I know it’s pretty much impossible to buy
and hold GDX for years with 100% of your money without getting shaken out
of some point. The best thing to do in order to guarantee a gain is to
just buy a small enough position where you could put a stop loss order way
down at the lower 200-day Bollinger Band at $18.46. That’s also near the
December low and it would be more of a mental stop than anything else.
It’s a way of figuring out how much of GDX can you actually buy with
your money without risking getting shaken out. That number might be 10%
or 15%.
If you want to put a stop loss as close as $22.37 or $22.11 what that
means is that you are really going to try to day trade it instead of hold
it for weeks or months. Perhaps that is what you are looking to do and
that is fine.
Most people reading this though would be best off just putting a
small amount of their money in so they don’t need to look at it constantly
and try to jump in and out. I know though that few want to do that in our
era of “Fast Money” where everything is hyped up and people want to trade
and not invest. But the reality is investing works with smaller posi-
tions. With big positions investing often turns into disaster and I fear
that is what is going to happen to most people who think they are safely
investing in the stock market now. So if you use a small position you
don’t need a stop loss.
Personally I have core positions in GDX and individual mining stocks
I’m not using stop loss orders on. If I do end up buying a trading posi-
tion (which may be what you are really asking about in the question) than
I’ll likely put a stop loss on the lows of the 5-7 trading days on it.
BUT I will not consider this an investing position. And the reality is
that I’m not looking to play gold stocks like this and jump in and out of
them trading them for the next few years. I’m only considering doing this
now because of the way the charts are lined up and don’t think situations
like this (a sideways consolidation after the first big rally of a bull
market) happen but every couple of years.
Now the other week I did an important PDF about the mania in ETF’s
about not only how money is flowing into them like crazy now, but how the
ETF’s themselves are not necessarily as good as people think they are from
an investing stand point, because most of them have 1/3 to even 1/2 of
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their money being put in only a few stocks and you are getting charged
management fees when you could just buy these stocks yourself and get the
dividends. Read the report I did on to see what I mean in more detail
starting on page 4 if you have not read it yet. I have wrote earlier
about what people are doing in the market with ETF’s and this PDF will
show you the information that makes me say those things:
http://wallstreetwindow.com/reports/wswreport03052017.pdf
Also I did a new video on the topic for you this weekend:
http://www.wallstreetwindow.com/powerinvestor/?p=1782
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MODEL REBALANCING ETF PORTFOLIO ALLOCATION
The goal of this portfolio is to have five have core positions with no
more than 20% invested in each one that together provide an investment al-
location with a low intra-portfolio matrix. This makes it so that when
one ETF goes down another can go up overtime. Traditionally people do
this with using US stocks and Treasury bonds, but in the long-run a mix of
more diversified assets can generate superior investment returns and if
one day stocks and T-bills go down together then it will be a necessity.
To make the strategy work one must also rebalance the positions to main-
tain the fixed allocation percentages. Rebalancing also boosts returns
overtime and lowers the overall volatility of the account. To make this
work monthly or weekly rebalancing is best.
For more on how this strategy works read my January monthly newsletter
from 2015.
http://wallstreetwindow.com/wswmonthly/wswmonthly01012015.pdf
Also see module 7 of my “Bear Market Power Pack” for several videos and
academic papers about this market strategy:
http://www.wallstreetwindow.com/powerinvestor/?page_id=1346
Right now my recommended mix of ETF’s is the following:
40% - CASH
20% - HDGE: Bear ETF that is short a basket of stocks.
20% - CEF: Central Fund of Canada owns gold and silver bullion.
20% - GDX: Gold Stocks ETF.
This ETF allocation creates a correlation ratio of 0.30. A 50% in TLT and
50% in SPY currently generates a correlation of 0.29.
You can use your own ETF’s or funds to play with correlations by going to
this website:
http://www.investspy.com/
A correlation of 1.00 would mean that everything in a portfolio is trading
together. I have core positions in my trading and investment accounts
roughly invested like this model portfolio is with the bulk of my money.
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