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    I saw a picture of a bamboo bike and decided I had to have one. I found out that

    professionally built bamboo frames cost a few thousand dollars so I decided to

    build one myself.

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    I had a lot of fun and I hope that you can make one too by following these

    instructions.

    The bike I made is a track bike for commuting to work. The bicycle was inspired

    by Craig Calfee who makes much nicer bamboo bikes. I really wanted

    something with a minimum of fancy technology and carbon fiber (although I

    sprang for the carbon fork). I used epoxy and hemp fibers on all the joints (no

    pun intended). The track bike also makes it easy in that it is a very simple bike -

    no gears, cable routings, rear brake or derailers.

    Disclaimer: Death or serious injury can result from a bicycle frame failure. Using

    new and untested techniques is risky. Be smart.

    Some links to check out before you get started:

    Brano's instructable on carbon and bamboo bike building

    (http://www.instructables.com/id/How-I-built-a-carbon-bike-frame-at-home-and-

    a-bam/)

    Craig Calfee's bamboo bike project (http://www.bamboobike.org/Home.html)

    Calfee bamboo bikes (http://www.calfeedesign.com/bamboo.htm)

    Bike Forest BikeCAD (http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/index.php)

    The forum for info on bamboo and heat treating it (http://www.bamboocraft.net/)

    The basic steps:

    1. Figure out what type of bicycle you want2. Get all of the parts and bamboo

    3. Heat treat the bamboo

    4. Tack it all together

    6. Epoxy it all together

    7. Build up bike

    8. Ride off into sunset

    Step 1: Pick the bicycle frame you want to build

    If you are a real bike nerd you will love this step. You are now a frame designer 

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    and get to think about things like bottom bracket drop, chain stay length and

    head tube angle.

    I suggest using an existing frame as a template (if you have one you really like).

    If you feel ready to test your skills of an artist go to www.bikeforest.com and use

    the BIKECAD program. It is a free, online frame designing program.

     Another good source of information is the Paterek Manual, which is actually for 

    steel frames. Paterek goes into detail on how to size a frame based on body

    measurements and what each change in geometry means as far as road

    handling goes.

    Once you have your geometry picked out draw your frame on a large piece of 

    paper.

    paolobertoncin (/member/paolobertoncin)

    great job

    bpurcell2 (/member/bpurcell2)

    Name 'Not just for smoking' as in , Hemp is;

    davidbarcomb (/member/davidbarcomb)

    This looks great! I have to try this one

    faceboogerz (/member/faceboogerz)

    Where did you get all the dropouts joints from?cut out from an

    old bike or did you make them or did you order them?

    ayasbek (/member/ayasbek) (author) .  

     faceboogerz (/member/faceboogerz)

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    Those dropouts were cut out of an old BMX. Now I get

    all my dropouts from these two:

    Paragon Machine Works

    (www.paragonmachineworks.com)

    or

    Nova Cycle Supply (http://www.cycle-frames.com)

    Hope this helps.

    faceboogerz (/member/faceboogerz)   .    ayasbek (/member/ayasbek)

    Thanks yes your thread have been very helpful. ..and thanks for 

    the two websites.

    swimmer321 (/member/swimmer321)

    so after you wrap the joints of the bike in the hemp, can you

    sand it down to make it look nicer? the calfee bamboo bike

    oints are really really nice and clean-looking. How can i get

    that look?

    chriscook42 (/member/chriscook42)  .  

     swimmer321 (/member/swimmer321)

    Thats what Im wondering. It is almost as if the hemp

    and stuff was melted into a single material. But you are

    right- it is a much more appealing look.

    masseffectcat (/member/masseffectcat)  .  

     chriscook42 (/member/chriscook42)

    It's my understanding that, besides being very careful to

    wrap the joints as tightly/neatly as possible, Calfee

    overbuilds the joints, grinds them down, and does a final

    epoxy on the cleaned up surface. The overbuild is

    important, because it allows you to improve the

    aesthetic without reducing the strength of the joint. Just

    don't grind all the way through the overbuilt parts and it

    should be fine.

    chriscook42 (/member/chriscook42)  .  

     chriscook42 (/member/chriscook42)

     After further analysis it seems calfee probably did

    hemp and then fiberglass on top of it. The fiber glass

    could be sanded and I think that couldve made that

    look.

    kklaw (/member/kklaw)  .  

     chriscook42 (/member/chriscook42)

    I would be careful with sanding through any of the hemp fibres, that is

    where the tensile strength of the joint comes from. The epoxy provides a

    matrix that helps to evenly distribute the forces throughout the joint but the

    fibres need to remain intact to provide any tensile strength. Chris's idea of 

    a layer of fibreglass on top for cosmetics and some protection is often how

    fibreglass is applied. This is why carbon fibre must not be scratched, its

    structural integrity is severely compromised if any fibres are broken. This

    is a great project, I'm excited to try it with carbon.

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    peligro (/member/peligro)  .  

     swimmer321 (/member/swimmer321)

    I think the author intentionally had the joints look fibrous. If you

    soak the hemp cord in epoxy, once you put it all on the frame it

    should fit a lot smoother than in these pictures. And you will

    definitely be able to sand it down, it just won't be easy. Once

    the epoxy has cured the hemp/epoxy matrix acts like any

    laminate in that it is a relatively homogeneous material. It

    should be solid throughout.

    Fun project. Thanks for the help.

    (http://cdn.instructables.com/FP6/FULX/HRI97B3I/FP6FULXHRI97B3I.LARGE.jpg)

    cameronbrown (/member/cameronbrown)

    Here is my finished bike, with a step by step writeup

    http://www.cameronbrown.ca/blog/2013/09/bamboo-bike-

    build-part-3-final-touches/

    Kelly02 (/member/Kelly02)

    It must be lighter than usual bikes. Nice work.

    dlu (/member/dlu)

    Hi~

    I've a little Q:

    How's ur bike now~?

    ayasbek (/member/ayasbek) (author) .  

     dlu (/member/dlu)

    I have stopped riding this one. My other bamboo bike has been sitting

    outside under a tarp for over a year now and still rides and feels great.

    rjpeterson (/member/rjpeterson)

    In response to:

    "ayasbek (author) says: Jan 6, 2009. 4:10 PMReply

    Wow! Looks good except for that one thing! I am so glad you

    got this far. Here is an idea - try get a different fork. Do you

    have a local frame builder you can speak to who could make

    you something? There are many old steel forks that have a

    good amount of rake/drag or whatever the offset from the

    headset is called. Another idea is to get a 650 wheel

    (sometimes called triathlon wheel). It is smaller and may

    allow you to ride your bike. It would also give you a super 

    track star look but will lower your bottom bracket a bit. Either 

    way be careful. If you really want to remove the hemp epoxy

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    I think I would try a hacksaw or grinder. Chemicals seem like

    a bad idea."

    Getting another fork with more rake is not a good idea. It

    may solve the problem of your wheel hitting the downtube,

    however the bike will have terrible steering characteristics.

    Bikes have a property called "trail". Trail is the distance

    behind the steering axis that the front wheel contacts the

    ground. Modern bikes with comfortable steering generally

    have a trail around 2-3 inches. In your picture above, the

    bike has close to zero trail. If you put a fork with more rake

    on that bike, you would end up with a non-existant or a

    negative trail. This would result in a bike that does not wantto ride straight. In fact the fork will try to flip 180 degrees

    before it will go straight. Using a smaller front wheel would

    result in the same problem

    Dandie (/member/Dandie)

    I think It is not a very good idea to build a bike frame of 

    bamboo because It’s impossible to assure strong and safe

    oint sticks, especially in the headset, one of the most

    stressed pieces. I have seen more than once headset

    breakages and I can assure that the consequences for the

    drivers have been horribly serious, they hit the pavementwith their faces,……. noses, jawbones, teeth smashed. I

    think this is not a matter to play with.

    syphek (/member/syphek)  .  

     Dandie (/member/Dandie)

    properly treated bamboo has a tensile strength equal to or greater than

    mild steel.

    snotty (/member/snotty)

    Yeah, bamboo bikes are awesome. Make sure to build your 

    lugs strong and use Tonkin or Iron bamboo or you may have

    problems.

    (http://cdn.instructables.com/FVU/5RVJ/GNXX3JQV/FVU5RVJGNXX3JQV.LARGE.jpg)

    chuck190 (/member/chuck190)  .  

     snotty ( /member/snotty)

    I plan to substitute top tube top tube of my steel bike with some bamboo

    of about 1" diameter (I could make it 1.25" if necessary). If I use iron

    bamboo of about 1"diameter, does anyone know if drilling out the center 

    with, say, a 3/8" drill would weaken it too much? That would leave walls of 

    about 5/16" or 8 to 9mm. I have read that walls of hollow bamboo should

    be a minimum of 3mm.

    snotty (/member/snotty)  .  

     chuck190 (/member/chuck190)

    Of course the only sure way to know is to test it.

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    But I've used bamboo with ~4mm sidewalls and it's been fine. Be gentle

    when you drill, if you push too hard it might splay the bamboo apart and

    crack. I've had trouble with this before.

     Also be careful to let the drill find its own way down the hollow or you

    might drift too far to one side.

    chuck190 (/member/chuck190)  .  

     snotty ( /member/snotty)

    snotty - Your last sentence - drilling down the hollow - makes me think

    that maybe you don't know that iron bamboo is not hollow - it's the only

    species that's solid. I have already drilled hollow bamboo without a

    problem. Actually, when it split, I simply wrapped it with carbon tape. I

    used a pair in place of the steel chain stays. It has taken quite a pounding

    on some very rough roads without a problem.

    But I would like to experiment with iron bamboo because I can make them

    into any diameter I need with a wood lathe. I'm thinking it would be OK to

    drill them to take weight off, but I was just wondering if anyone has had

    experience with this.

    snotty (/member/snotty)  .  

     chuck190 (/member/chuck190)

     Ah yes. For some reason I thought iron bamboo had a little hollow area. I

    must be thinking of some other type.

    snotty (/member/snotty)  .  

     snotty ( /member/snotty)

    Yes, that's a bamboo wind turbine in behind me there:

    http://www.instructables.com/id/Wind-Turbine-Blades-from-Bamboo/

    (http://www.instructables.com/id/Wind-Turbine-Blades-from-Bamboo/)

    rudi.carfell (/member/rudi.carfell)

    Where have you bougth your hemps? And whats important

    to look at when I buy them?

    davmaldo (/member/davmaldo)  .  

     rudi.carfell (/ member/rudi.carfell)

    Ebay! After some research, i believe you want the "bast" as it is

    the strongest part of the plant, i.e. search "hemp bast fiber" and

    you should get a few hits. I have had trouble sourcing hemp in

    its non twine form.

    LiquidLightning (/member/LiquidLightning)

    Uh.. Where did you get the hemp? Untangling hemp ropes?

    Cough cough.

    foxes76133 (/member/foxes76133)

    Hey Ayasbek, I have some questions I'd like to ask about

    this project about "Heat Treating Bamboo".

    I was wondering what tools you used for the project, and

    how you used them. I would like to experiment, but due to

    my finances, my experiments would also have to be useful,

    because I don't have enough money to buy bamboo in bulkamounts, and use some of it only to ruin it because of 

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    experimentation.

    I've been trying to work on a project of my own as well, but

    not making a bamboo bike, it's actually to make shafts for 

     Arrows for my bow. So I'd like to know more. Otherwise, I

    have to do a search and destroy all over Goggle just to find a

    dealer in my local area just for Heat Tempered Bamboo.

    sephiroth67 (/member/sephiroth67)

    Hope it's not TOO late, but B2 sounds like a fine name...fits

    your description of a stealth bomber, and you can just say it

    stands for bamboo =D

    mykall (/member/mykall)

    hey there,

    amazing job you did there, you have my greatest respect.

    We were thinking of trying to build one in our bicycle

    cooperative, but the fella we are getting hemp from needs to

    know what kind of hemp fibre we need, how thin, and how

    clean, and also of course how much.

    I was wondering if you could possibly help me with some

    advice?

    how much did you use on one bicycle and what sort of hempwere you using?

    look forward to your help

    fgunnar (/member/fgunnar)

    Out of curiosity, how much does it weigh?

    geekonabike (/member/geekonabike)

    The Woody

    EngineerJakit (/member/EngineerJakit)

    So if you were to build something out of either green or 

    heated bamboo, which would be the easier to work with?

    mainly with flexibility and hardness.

    mad doctor (/member/mad doctor)

    How did you get your bottom bracket shell out of the bike?

    Most of the bikes I have looked at have their bottom bracket

    shells welded on.

    frisbeechamp1983 (/member/frisbeechamp1983)

    can this be used to make a hardtail mountain bike?

    willrandship (/member/willrandship)

    Calc for blog cred...:P

    Cool idea, but I'd be very afraid to ride it, myself. Even if a

    professional built it :P

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     willrandship (/member/willrandship)

    Fear is scary stuff eh. Seriously though; I made a bamboo bike really

    badly and it broke in lots of places but it never fell apart. It just got wiggly.

    NetReaper (/member/NetReaper)

    Could you use a second metal piece under the seat that you

    put at the bottom? It seems like it's the same angles and it

    would be sturdier.

    Dylan Roberts (/member/Dylan Roberts)

    The Bambicycle or The Bambike. Yeah...

    a918bmxr (/member/a918bmxr)

    i have seen a frame break and the rider got a huge gash

    across his stomach from where the top and bottom tubes

    attached to the head tube... it wasn't pretty D-8

    Oxzane68 (/member/Oxzane68)

    No offesnse, but I built one, and it shattered.

    SirRidesalot (/member/SirRidesalot)

    http://www.ridepanda.com (http://www.ridepanda.com)You

    should also check out what some guys from Colorado are

    doing at http://www.ridepanda.com.

    (http://www.ridepanda.com.) Their company, Panda

    Bicycles, looks like it's making some sweet bamboo bikes

    with steel lugs.

    thepelton (/member/thepelton)  .  

     SirRidesalot (/member/SirRidesalot)

    Neat! I live in Colorado Springs! I may be up for a field trip. I

    wonder if there is any way to do the spokes in smaller bamboo?

    thepelton (/member/thepelton)  .  

     thepelton (/member/thepelton)

    Never mind! If you look at the calfeedesign.com website, you

    see that very thing done in Africa. It makes for a stronger back

    wheel that can carry larger loads than the standard wire

    spokes. 8>)

     jentran (/member/jentran)

    For the headset, perhaps you could cut one so that there are

    nodes at either end to increase stiffness. There are more

    nodes located at the bottom of a bamboo culm than at the

    top. I'm not sure how thick the walls of the headset you tried

    was, that could help too. Some other people sprayed

    expanding form successfully to increase stiffness to the seat

    tube.

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