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Eric
Alfred
Havelock
[1934
XVII.-
The Evidence or the Teaching
fSocrates
ERIC
ALFRED HAVELOCK
VICTORIA COLLEGE
Dramatized
onversation
as a traditionalmethod frendering
bstract
ideas,
as examples
from
he
poets
and historians how.
Hence the
So-
cratic
Logoi,
whether
f Xenophon or Plato,
owe theirform o literary
reasons, nd not to a desireto representhehistoric ocrates. It is only
modern
prejudice nd literary
ashion
whichprevents he
fact frombeing
appreciated.
If
these
ogoi
are
eliminated
s primary
vidence,we are leftwith
the
Apology
nd Clouds,
which
are
likelyto be historical n
a sense in
which
none
of
the other
material s.
These two
sources
yield a simple nd con-
sistent et
of
deas
which
an
safely
be
labelled
Socratic.
The
major material
for
reconstructing
he life
nd teachings
of Socrates is suppliedby thedialoguesofPlato and some of
the
writings
f
Xenopholn,
upplemented
y a
play
of
Ar'sto-
phanes
and someremarks
f Aristotle.
But there
s today no
agreed
methodby
which
his material
an
be
appraised,
nd
in
consequenice
he problem
of
who
was
the historic
ocrates has
been
reduced
to
lhopeless
conifusioni.
he
old
orthodoxy
relied
mainly
on Xenophon.
The heterodoxy
f the
Burnet-
Taylor theoryutilisedthe whole of the Clotuds lus Plato's
early
and
middle
dialogues.
Average opinion
now
hovers
uneasily
between
hese two
extreimes.
Socrates
s
represented
today
as
either
scientist,
r a
imioralist,
r
a
metaphysician,
or a
mystic,
r as
a combination
of
some
of
these,
according
to
the
personal preferences
f his
iinterpreter.
The confusion
('an be illustrated
by
comnparing
wo
recent
works on
the
subject,
A. E.
Taylor's
Socrates nd
A.
K.
Rogers'
The
Socratic
Problem:
the
former
epresents
ocrates as
a scientist
nd
a
metaphysician;
he
latterregards
he
science
and
metaphysics
as
Platonic,
and
represents
ocrates
only
as a
moralistand
mystic.
This
is
not
to
say
that the
two
interpretations
o
not
overlap.
But their
difference
n
emphasis
s
obvious.
The reason
forthis confusion
s
that
there
s at
present
no
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Teaching f
Socrates
283
accepted
criterionby
which the
aVailable evidence
can be
evaluated. The orthodoxpreference or Xenophon did at
least
provide
uch a criterion.
No one
today
is
probablyquite
satisfied
with it. But
nothing
has taken its
place.
Every
interpreter
s
left
free
to
pick
out
of
the
available
material
what
he thinks s suitable to his own
conception,
nd the
por-
traits
of Socrates
which result are not
history
but
subjective
creations.
The chief bstaclein theway ofestablishing sound criter-
ion of
evidence
s the modern
llusion
that because Plato and
Xenophon chose
to
represent
ocrates as a
central
figure
n
dramatized
conversations,
hey
were
inspiredby
a
desire
to
reconstruct he
master's
personality.
Their
method
of
writing
philosophy
s not
the
normal
method
today.
We
therefore
assume
that
they
had some ulteriormotive in so
writing,
beyondthemerepresentation f theirown ideas. But this s
not so.
The
dialogue
form
was
chosen
for
raditional
easons.
Acteddrama,
or dramatized
onversations,
was the
traditional
Greek methodof
discussing
nd
analysing
moral
deas.
This
instinct
to
dramatize,
and hence to
subordinate the
writer's
wn
personality,
an
be traced
from
Homer
onwards,
whose
reflections
n
right
nd
wrong
and human
destiny
re
spokenthroughhis characters. Even Hesiod's Theogonys in
effect
dialogue
between himself
nd
the
Muses,
the
Muses
supplying
ll
the doctrine.
In
the Works
nd
Days, it is
true,
he
descends to personal
exhortation, ut
a vestigeof
the dra-
matic
instinct
persists;he
carrieson
his
conversationwith his
brother.
Epicharmus,
if
our
evidence
is
to be
trusted,was
among
the earliest
to
undertake analytical
discussion of
abstractmoralproblems. His mediumwas the comic stage,
and
the
audience that listened to these
discussions
filled he
theatre
t Syracuse. It is
hard to decide
whether e
was more
of
a
dramatist or a philosopher. His
successor
Sophron of
Syracuse may
or may not
have been a
moralphilosopher, ut
he was
at least responsible
for one
thing: he
developed the
dialogue
form
orpurposes ofreading, s
distinct rom
cting,
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284
Eric Alfred
Havelock
[1934
thus perfecting
n instrument
or he
use
of philosophic
writers
ofthe fourth entury. It is no accidentthat Plato is reported
to have been
very
fond
of Epicharmus'
plays,
since
he adopted
the technique
of the
Sicilianmime
n constructing
is Socratic
conversations.'
It was
always
moral ideas,
concerning
he destinyand
be-
haviour
of
man,
which
found heir
mostappropriate
xpression
in such
dramatization.
This, I
would
suggest,
s one of the
main reasonsforthe preeminence f dialectic in Greek phi-
losophy,
not least in the pages
of
Plato,
who
converts t from
a
mere
iterary
echnique
nto a
philosophical
method.
If the
stage
was
the earliest
vehicle
of what
could
be called
moral
discussion,
t would be
natural
to
develop
such discussion
by
depicting
haracters
withantithetical pinions,
whose
repartee
would
amuse
an
audience,
and
might
ncidentally
evelop
a
point of view.2 As the interest n ideas increased,the dra-
matic
purpose
was
gradually
forgotten.
On the
other
hand,
the
speculation
oncerning
hysical
nature,
non-humanist
nd
non-moral,
which became
traditional
veryearly
in
Ionia,
did
not
develop
out of
a
dramatic
form,
imply
because
its
subject
matter
had
nothing
o do with
human character.
The
two
different
raditions
unite
in
Zeno,
who
applied
the
dialogue
technique
o discussion f
purely
physical
problems, nd hence
produced
a
purely
undramatic
dialectic.3
Plato,
turning
his
back,
at least
in the
early part
of his
career,
n
the
philosophy
of
nature,
nd
concentrating
nce
more,
with a new
precision,
on the
problems
f
man,
reverted
o the
drama.
The
dialogue
form,
lhen,
s not
inspired
by any
desire
to
1
Aristotle, Poet.
1447b,
2. Burnet,
Phaedo (Oxford,
Clarendon,
1911)
intro-
duction,
xxxi,
and
Taylor,
Varia
Socratica
(Oxford,
Parker,
1911),
55
assume
that
the
mime
was
realistic.
Aristotle
cites
it
as
an
example
of the
exact
opposite:
cf.
Ross'
edition
of
the
Metaphysics
(Oxford,
Clarendon,
1924)
i,
introduction,
xxxvii.
2
Cf.
Epicharmus,
frags.
1
f.
(Diels,
Fragmente
der
Vorsokratiker4
Berlin,
Weidmann,
1922)
i, 13b,
1
f.).
3
Cf.
Diog.
L. viii,
57,
ApLuToTriX7s
6'
e'P
Tr,
0o04Urjj
4Oil' 7wp
TOP
'E7rew3KXEt
pr7TOpLK77P
e
pe?V,
Z7'rwpa Ue
3LaXEKTLK7'P
(Aristotle,
frag.
65 Ross):
see
also
Plato,
Parmenides
135d.
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Vol.
lxv]
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or
the
Teaching f
Socrates
285
portray character.
It was
a
standard
literary
method
of
expressingmoralphilosophy. It is truethat actual historical
figures
f
the fifth
entury
are
portrayed
n the
dialogues.
But
hereagain we
do
not make
enough
allowance for
Greek
tradition n these matters.
Every
time
a
Greek
went to
a
play, he
saw
represented
not
some
fictitious
haracter,
the
creation
of the
artist,
but
a
thoroughly
amiliar
one,
known
to
him
from he legendsof
childhood.
Yet the
dramatist
was
expectedto adapt this given character to his own purposes.
He
was
expected
to
work
up
particular
oncrete
ituations
n
hisown
way,
and
allow his
puppets to
converse
n
what manner
suited
him.
In this
way,
Epicharmus
may
have made
Odys-
seus
the
mouthpiece
for some
amateur
philosophizing;
Euripides
certainly
did not
set the
fashion in
this regard.
Such
characters, t
is
true, were
mythical,
nd
therefore
more
easily treatedas types. But the historians ive us historical
figures
reated n
the
same
way.
Herodotus,
for
xample,
ells
a
tale of
Cyrus
and
Croesus,5which
may
have been
suggested
to him by
something e
heard, but
whichhe at
any
rate
works
up
into a
situation where he is
enabled
to
give dramatic
expression
o
a
few
entiments
oncerning
uman
destiny. So
wTehave
Croesus on his
pyre,
carrying n
what
amountsto a
conversation, espitethe painfulcircumstances,withthe
vic-
torious
Cyrus.
This
conversation s
in turn
the
report
of
another
conversation, his
time
between
Croesus and
Solon,
which
had
happened
long
ago.
This is
almost
n the
Platonic
manner. The
classic
example of
this
dialectical
use of
his-
torical
material s
of
course
theMelian
dialogue.6
Thucydides
may have had leanings towards scientifichistory,but the
Greek
nstinct
was
too much
for
him.
He
selects a
particular
situation
in
Athenian
history as
a
suitable setting
for
the
dramatic
presentation
of
the
eternal
human
problem,might
mersus
right. It is
inconceivablethat
such
a
discussion
was
4
Diels,
op.
cit.
(see
note
2)
13b, 4: cf.
Croiset, Hist.
Litt.
Gr.
Im,
471.
6
Hdt.
I, 86.
6
Thuc.
v,
85.
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Eric
AlfredHavelock
[1934
held
in
the circumstances;
t is thus
that the
historian
hooses
to recordhis own reflections. For that matter,does anyone
believe
that
the
funeral peech
is
any
safe
guideto the
senti-
ments,
et alone the
style,of
Pericles?
Y
et Pericles
was
as
near to the
readers
of Thucvdides
as
Socrates
was to
the
readers
of
Plato, and
probably
a good
deal
nearer.
The
case of Pericles
n this
nstance
llustrates
nother
fact.
Reverence
for a
great
historic
figure
now
dead
was
no
guar-
anteethat a latergenerationwouldtake any trouble o report
him accurately.
The
reversewas
rather
he truth.
Socrates
was
very
quickly
exalted
into the
position
of
a sort
of saint.
It was
this
very
exaltation
which
in
the eyes
of the next
generation
depersonalised
him.
He
changedfrom
a human
being
nto the champion
of
a cause,
and as such ent himself
o
just
that
sort of dramatic
treatment
which the Greeks
ac-
cordedtheirheroes-a treatment he reverse of historical n
our
sense
of
the
word.
I conclude
hatthe
Socratic
Conversations were
literary
medium
used
to express
he ideas
of
the
writer,
ot of his char-
acters,
nd that
any
rea(ler
of such
conversations
n the classi-
cal
perio(l
would
not
expect
otherwise.
I have by
implication
classedl
Xenophon
with Plato
in this discussion.
I do
this
because his Memoirs are really disguised conversations.
The
narrative
n(ddescriptive
material
n them bears
a
small
proportion
o the
whole
and
in
some
important
respects
is
obviously
vitiated
by
his
apologetic purpose.8
One
may
suspect
that
only
controversy
ould at
this date
have
impelled
any
Greek
to
attempt
deliberate
biography.
If,however,we are to assumethat one ofPlato's purposes
in
writing
uch dialogues
as
the
Charmides, y?nposium,
r
7
Many
of
the
abstract
ideas,
as well
as
their antithetical
arrangement,
appear
unadorned
by genius
in the
briT0atos
of
Gorgias
(Diels.
op.
cit.
76b,
6).
The
shorter
speech
inserted
fourteen chapters
later
(Thuc.
ii,
60-64)
is
much
more
convincing
as a specimen
of
what
Pericles'
style
may
have
been.
8
E.g.
the divine
sign
wherever
mentioned
is
credited
with
positive
powers,
in
flat
contradiction
of
the
Apology:
Mem.
i,
1, 2-9;
iv, 3,
12
f.,
8,
5
f.:
Apology
31c-d,
40a-b.
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Vol.
lxv]
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or
the
Teaching f
Socrates
287
Phaedo was
to recall a historic
ituation,
we are
compelled
to
convert him from a philosopher nto an antiquarian, who
carefullyreconstructed
he
manners
and
opinions
of
an
age
which Burnet argues
was dead
by
the time he
wrote.9 I
totally
disbelieve this
judgment;
in
my opinlionl
the
contro-
versies
which
are argued
n
Plato's
pages
are
the
controversies
of his
own
day,
dramatized
through
he mouthsof men mostlv
dead
who had initiated
hese
controversies,
nd had become
as
it were the canonized representatives f philosophicalten-
dencies.
Arguing
rom he
contrary
ssumption,
he
Burnet-
Taylor theory
presents
to us
a
Socrates
who
is
not
only
a
cosmologist
nd
a
mathematician,
but
a
metaphysician, he
author
of
the
theory
of Ideas. To
arrive
at
this
conclusion,
the authors
of
it have to
involve themselves n
a
maze of
special
pleading,1
and fly
n
the face ofsome
express
estimony
of Aristotle's.1 (It seems unthinkable, argues Burnet in
discussing
the
Phaedo,
that Plato
should
have
invented
a
purely
fictitious ccount
of his
revered master's
intellectual
development,
nd inserted
t in
an
account
of
his last
hours on
earth.
12
This
only
means
that
such
a method s
unthinkable
to Mr. Burnet.
Rogers,
again,
assumes
for
his own
purposes
that what Socrates says in the Symposium s a record ofhis
own
opinions.
For
otherwise
Plato
shifts to
an
intentional
and
thorough-going
alsification
hen
he
introduces he
hero of
the
dialogue.
Such
a
procedure
must have
confusedhis
con-
temporaries s
much
as
it
confuses the
modern
reader.
13
9
Burnet,op. cit.
(see
note
1),
introduction,
xxiv-xxxvi,nd
article Soc-
rates in
Hastings,
Enc.
Rel.
and
Eth.xi.
10
Burnet,
for
example,
introd.to
Phaedo)
dismisses
he
references
o
the
Clouds in the Apology s persiflage ;
Taylor
(Var.
Soc.
158)
renders
. .
Ka
&XXv
7roXAX7v
vaplav
cOvapouvJTa,
W'V
EycW
v6ev
oTre
,ttiya
oTre /tKpJv
7rEpt
eiraltw
Apol.
19c)
as
I can
make
neitherhead
nor
tail of
this
nonsense, when
the
plain sense
s
I am
innocent
f all
knowledge
f
these
matters.
It
Met. A.
987b, 1, M.
1078b,
28
and
1086b,
2:
cf.
the
discussion fthese
n
Ross. op.
cit.
see
note
1)
introduction,
nd
in
Field,
Socrates
nd
Plato
(Oxford,
Parker,
1913).
12
Op. cit. in
note
9),
668.
13
The
Socratic
roblem
New
Haven,
Yale Press,
1933),
8.
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288 Eric
AlfredHavelock
[1934
The use
of
falsification
begs
the
whole
question,
as though
the choicebefore Greekwriterweredeliberateand faithful
reporting
ersus
eliberate
ying.14
We
have
to remember
hat
classic
Greek literature
was
characterised
by
an entire
absence
of what
we would
call
fiction,
hat is, drama
or
narrative
built
around
purely
magi-
nary
characters.
This
absence
of
pure
fiction
guaranteed
thathistorical
haracters
would
be treated
n
a fictional
man-
ner,or what we would call such,and that thiswouldhappen
without
any
problem
of
historic
honesty
or
dishonesty
eing
raised thereby.
It was
the
Alexandrians,
nfluenced
y
the
disciples
of Aristotle,
he
compilers
of
the
firsthistories
of
philosophy
nd
science,
that
first
became
interested
n
biog-
raphy.
The facts
so
called
that they
began
to
collect
were
really
nferences
which they
painstakingly
rew
from ources
which werenot written n a biographical pirit t all. They
do
not seem
to
have
been
muchmorecapable
of appreciating
this
than
we
are,
and
a
mass of
apocryphal
anecdote
is
the
result.15
Correspondingly
t was
in the
same
period
that
the
purely
fictional
romance
with invented
characters
made
its
appearance.
Factual
biography
and fictional
narrative
be-
came,
as it
were,separated
off rom
ach
other.
The
worldof ettershas eversinceset a value on the actual
record
of a
man's
personal
ife.
Today
it sets
a higher
value
than
ever.
A
large
part
of modern iterature
s directly
or
indirectly
iographical.
In
a
spirit
nd
temper
uite
alien
to
that
of classic
Greece
we
seek
to know
the historic
Socrates
in relation
o
his environment,
o understand
his
psychological
development, o discoverthe influenceswhichproducedhim.
The
result
s such
a
life
ofSocrates
as A.
E.
Taylor's,
in
which
14
Cf.
similar
reasoning
by
Field,
who says,
op.
cit. (see
note
11)
4,
concerning
the
Memorabilia:
There
are
only
three
alternatives:
either
it is
substantially
true,
or
else
Xenophon
is
deliberately
lying,
or
else
he is
very
ignorant.
15
The
stories
for
example
about
Anytus'
son
(based
on
the
Meno)
and
Xanthippe
(inferences
from
the
Phaedo,
aided
by imagination)
and
perhaps
the
assertion
that
Socrates
was
a
disciple
of, .e.
had
heard
Archelaus
(an
inference
from
Phaedo
97b?).
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Evidence
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the
Teaching
f
Socrates
289
a hundred
nd
thirty ages are devoted
to the
life,
nd
forty-
four to the thoughtof the philosopher. This proportion s
the
exact reverse
of the one observed
by
the
disciples
of
Socrates.
To
amass
enough
biographical
material to
fill
the
record,
desperate
use
has to be
made
of what authorities
we
have.
Plato was
not interested n
men,
but in
ideas. He
con-
structs
dramatic situations which
will allow him
to
expose
through he mediumof a conversation omeabstractproblem.
He
projects this
conversation nto the
past, often
aking
care
to underline he
fact,
as for
example
in the
introductions o
the
Symposium
nd Phaedo.16
This
projection
has
the
same
effect
s
that
achieved
by
the
tragic
dramatist who
used a
conventionalized haracterdrawn from
mythology:
t
enabled
Plato to
subordinate
character to ideas,
expressing
his ideas
through he mouths ofhistoricfigureswho werejust remote
enough
to avoid
intruding
s a
distraction
n his
educative
mime. By
way
of
contrast, one may
compare the
modern
attitude
s
it
is
illustrated
y
the
technique
of
Lytton
Strachey,
the writerwho
perhaps has
developed
the art of
biography o
its logical
conclusion. He
deliberately
exposes the
private
life
and inner
emotionsof
his
subject,
ratherthan the
public
career whicheveryoneknows. He is interested, orexample,
to
let us
see
Queen Victoria
ess as
a queen and
moreas
a lover
of her
husband,
or
Florence
Nightingale
ess as
the lady with
the
lamp
than as
an
imperious
nvalid on a
couch,
ordering
Arthur
Hugh
Clough to
tie up
brown
paper parcels
for her.
If
we are in
sympathywith
the
modern
mood,
we applaud the
method
because we
feel
that it is
in the minute
revelationof
individualcharacter hattruth
nd meaning s to
be
found. I
cannot
imagine
an
attitudemore
alien
to that
ofGreece, as
long as
the
city
state stillretained
ignificance;
nd Plato is a
child
of
the
citystate,
remote n
spirit
rom hat
individualism
16
Symp.
172c,
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Eric Alfred
Haveloclc
[1934
which ater
became
dominant
anid
rendered
he
biograpllical
pointofview in literature opular.
One is
at liberty o
imagine
Plato
givingus
a
coniversationi
between
Queen Victoria
andl
Thomas
Huxley,
on the
suitable
subject
of
What
is piety?
The queen
aiid
the
scienitist
ileet
in the grounds
ofWindsor
Castle.
The
queen's interest
is
inl he state religioni
ndl
ts inaintenance
ini
he established
clhurch. The
scientist rgues
that
all
ethical
anid
mloral
oln-
cepts require scientific asis. The clash of thesetwopoints
of
view
allows
Plato to add
a few
light
touchesof
character
drawing.
After
protracted
rgumenit
luxley
retires
eavino
the
queen
sadder
but
a littlewiser.
I do not think
myself
hatwe can
say
that the
conversations
of Socrates
with the sophists
had any
more
basis in
historical
fact,
but
one
may
imagine
a
Burnet of
many
centuries
ater,
as he studied the literary emainsofour vanishedcivilization,
arguing
with
great
effect
hat of course
the
conversation
s
historical:
Victoria
must have
met Huxley.
His post
as
in-
spector
of
salmon
fisheries,
royal
appointment,
would render
such a meeting almost
inevitable.
If confirmationwere
wanted,
one could
see
it in the altered
policy
of the state
to-
wards
the dissenting
denominations
owards
the close
of
the
cenitury, hich reflects he impression hat this conversation
had
made.
Socrates
theni
would
remain
anl important
but
well
nigl
uiiknownquantity
in the
history
f
philosophy,
but for two
facts.
Plato
besides
his
dialogues
wrote
a
speech.
And
a
comic
dramatist
chose to
pillory
Socrates
in a
play
nearly
thirty
y-ears efore
his
death.
My
thesis
is
that
these
two
works,
an(d
these
alone,
if
rightly
used, provide
us with a
criterion
for
distinguishing
he
teaching
of Socrates.
Aris-
totle adds
a
little,
which reinforces
onclusionsdrawn
from
the
speech
and
the
play,
but
is
in itself
nadequate.
The Apology
s
the
only
work
of Plato's
which
n form s
not
a
conversation.
I take this
one
departure
from
literary
practice
to be (leliberate.
It
indicates
that
for
once he
is
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interested
in
something
other
than
an abstract
problem.
Furthermore, he ApologypresentsSocrates in a situation
which
was
part
of his
public
career,
not
of
his
private
ife.
It
was indeed the only situation of all those in the
dialogues
whicha reader
twentyyears
after
would
instinctively
hink
of
as
historical.
Thirdly,
t
is
only
in the
Apology
that
Plato
refers
o his
own
presence t
the scene
portrayed,
nd
he does
so twice. 7
He
specifically
eliminates
himself from
the
Phaedo,'8which was perhapsthe one otherdialoguewhicha
contemporary
eader
might
have
been
tempted
to
regard
as
in any
sense
historical.
I therefore ake
the
Apology
to
be
Plato's
one
deliberate
attempt
to
reconstruct
ocrates for
his
own
sake, and am
willing
enough
to
believe
that the
motive
behind
the
attempt
was
to
refute ther
pamphlets
n
the same
subject.
This
is
not to
say
that
it
is
reporting.
On
the
con-
trary, t is veryunlikelyto be. I would be prepared to go
further or
example
than
Hackforth,
who
in
his
Composition
of
Plato's
Apology
ttempts o
distinguish
etween he
forensic
portions
actually
delivered to the
jury
and
those
added
by
Plato.
In
order
o
value
the
Apology s
a
historical
ocument,
it is
not
necessaryto
assume that
Socrates
spoke
any
of
it.
Such
reporting
mplies
a
more
violent
departure
from
Plato's
normalpracticethan I thinkhe would have been capable of.
I
take
the
speech
to
be
rather
conscious
attempton
his
part
to sum
up
the
significance f his
master's
teaching,
utilizing
for hat
purpose
a
dramatic
ituationwhich
was
historical,
nd
which
everyoneknew to
be so.
A.
E.
Taylor
rightly
ointed
out, in
his
Varia
Socratica,
he
unique
importance f
the
Clouds
as
evidence
for
the
teaching
of Socrates. It is the onlycontemporary
vidence
we
have,
and
is
contributed
by a
non-philosopher.
Unfortunately,
Taylor
tended
to
discreditthe
evidencehe
had
rediscovered
by
his
extravagant
use of it.
Obsessed
with
the
idea that
fifth-century
reeks
were
nterested n
the
objective
portrayal
17
34a,
38b.
18
59b.
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Eric AlfredHavelock
[1934
of
individual
character,
he takes
practically
verything
n the
Cloudsto be a reminiscence fthe historic ocrates,and does
this
with the
less
excuse
because in
this case
his
authority,
while
not a philosopher,
s a comic
dramatist,
withan axe
of
his own
to grind.
A dramatist's
irst
urpose
s to amuse;
his
secondmay possibly
be to instruct
r preach
a
moral,
his
third
and last,
if
he
has it at
all,
is to
render
historical icture.
I
take
it
that
Aristophanes
hose
Socrates primarily
ecause
he
was amusing. He seemsto declarethe facthimself,whenthe
chorus,
ddressing
ocrates
forthe
first ime at
line
359,
says
0
high
priest
of
ingenious
nonsense,
declare
to us
thy
need.
For there
is none
other
of
the
highfalutin
rofessors
f
the
present
day
that
we
would
rather
isten
to,
except
Prodicus.
We would
listen
to him
because
of his wisdom
and doctrine,
but to
you,
because
you
strut
along
the streets
hooting
ide-
long glances, going barefoot,puttingup with all kinds of
trouble,
nd
maintaining
stern
front nder
ourprotection.
The play then
used
Socrates
because
he was
an eccentric
with
eccentric
habits.19
Now, part
of
a
man's
eccentricity
consists
n the phrases
he
uses,
the
argon
n which
he expresses
his ideas,
and
to
some
extent
the ideas
themselves,
f he
has
any,
though
dramatist
s an
unsafe
guide
to what
his
victim's
ideas
may
be,
as he will selectonlywhat is superficial. It is
reasonable
o
suppose
that the Clouds,
n addition
o
parodying
the
personal
habits
of
Socrates,
would
contain
a
large
amount
of his
phraseology,
which,
f
recovered,
would
be
a
valuable
guide
to
his
ideas and
methods.
But
the
play
itself
provides
no
criterion
y
means
of
which
we
can
separate
t
out.
But
this
difficulty
isappears
f we
regard
he content
f
the
Apology
s
in some
sense
a formal
definition
f what Socrates
taught
and
believed,
nd
supplement
his
outline
by
anything
in the
Clouds
which
s
not contradicted
n the
Apology.
Prob-
ably
thebiggest
ingle
mistake
made
by
Burnet
and
Taylor
was
to
ignore
he
contradictions
hat
there
re.
I am
thinking
f
19
Cf.
Apol.
34b,
aXX'
OW'v
bebo'Y/ELvop
y4
eaTrL
Tp
2wKpa?r1
bLa'epEt
rLvTW
rv
7roXXWCP&
avOpwc7rwY.
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Teaching f
Socrates
293
two
statements n theApology
n
particular;
irst,
hat
Socrates
was utterly gnorantof the so called science of his day, and
second, that
he
never
taught
a
formal
body
of
doctrine
t
all,
let
alone an esotericdoctrine.20 These two
statements, nless
the
Apologydistorts
he
historic
acts,destroy
he
portrait
f
Socrates the scientist,
he
Orphic teacher,
the
metaphysician,
which has
been
laboriously
onstructed
uring
he
last
thirty
years. But
if
the
Apology
s
a
distortion,
hen
surely
the
dialogue material on which the biographicallyminded are
driven
to
rely
s
scarcely
ikely
to
be
less so. We
would
then
be left
with
no evidence at all.
The
essence, then,
of what
Socrates believed and
taughtis
containedwithin he
limits
of
the
Apology;
his
can
be
supple-
mentedby a good
deal
of
Socratic anguage
and method
from
the Clouds.
What
Aristotle
has
to
say merely onfirms
his
evidence in two
particulars.2 Having
thus constructed
a
definitepicture
of
what Socrates' ideas
were, and also what
they
were not, we are
able
to
take the
dialogues of Plato and
disentangle
from
hemthe
Socratic ideas which
in part
they
use.
This
criterion nables
us to
define he
field
of
Socraticism
fairlyprecisely. I can only indicate the resultssummarily.
Certain
negative
conclusions seem
definite:
he science and
atheism
of
the
Clouds is
eliminated. So also
are the
formal
theories
of
psychology
nd
politics,
the doctrines
of
immor-
tality,
and the technical use
of
the
Forms
which
occur
in
the
early
and middle dialogues
of
Plato. But
the positive out-
lines
of Socrates' thought emerge equally
definitely: urnet
made a greatcontributiono the history fphilosophywhen
he defined ocrates'
central dea as the
notion of the rational
soul
and its
supreme
mportance.22 To thiswe can add, as
20
Apol.
19
c-d,
26 d,
33
b.
21
See
note
11.
22
The
Socratic
Conception
of
the
Soul,
in
the Proceedings
of
the
British
Academy
VIII,
235-260,
and article Soul
(Greek)
in
Hastings,
Enc.
Rel.
and
Eth. xi,
741.
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Eric
Alfred
Havelock
[1934
part of
the
same
idea,
the
doctrine
that
the
attainment
of
knowledge fthe self, .e. ofselfconsciousness,s the supreme
and
only
duty
of
man,a
duty
to
be achieved
bv
introspection.
The
Socratic
method
of
doingthis
was
to examine
propositions
-what
we would
class
as
moral
propositions-which
to
Socrates
were thoughts,
he
products
of
soul,but
could
vary
in quality
according
o
the
goodness
r
badness
of
oul,
and
had
to be
improved
o
that
therewith
he
soul
was
improved.
The
methodof improvement,gain,was to ask, What does this
proposition
mean? , and
in supplying
the
answer
to
trace
deductively
series
of
conclusions
which
were
then
compared
with
otherconclusions
drawn
from
nductive
llustrations,
r,
as
we
might
ay,
from
ommon
sense
or at least
common
ex-
perience.
If the
two sets
of
conclusions
idnotfit,
he original
proposition ad
to
be
improved
o that
they
would.
In
order
to
have
a
standard
basis
of
comparison,
ocrates
also
assumed
that everything
ad to stand
the
testofbeing good,
without
distinguishing
etween
the morallygood
and
the
useful
and
pleasant.
That
is,
he could
be
interpreted
s setting
up
a
single
standard
of value
as the
soul's
equipment
in passing
judgment
n
any
situation
or on
any
statemeint.
This simple
and consistent ittle systemof ideas--thoughit should not
really
be called
a
system
at
all-ha(d
two by-products:
he
liscovered
that the
proper
functioii
f the
soull
is
to
think,23
and
that the
objective
of exact thought
s
the
elaborationi
f
essential
definitions.
Such
is the contribution
f
Socraticism
to
philosophy:
very
element
n this summary
ppears
in
the
Apology,
and
is
backed
up
and sometimes explained
more
23
I.e.
supreme
virtue
consists
in
the
actual
exercise of mental powers for
their
own
sake
to
the
limit:
cf.
in
particular
Apol.
29e
and
38a
and
the use
of
cpovsL?etV
passim
in
the
Clouds.
This
is not
the
same thing
as
Virtue
is
knowledge,
i.e.
an
exact
science.
It was
Plato
himself
who
in the
early
dialogues
set
about
trying
to
produce
this
formula.
The
implications
achieved
in
the
Protagoras
became accepted
by
Aristotle and
later
authorities
as
Socratic,
and
thus
the
famous
paradox
became
traditional
as
Socratic
doctrine;
cf.
Arist.
Eth.
N.
1116b,
4,
1145b,
23,
Eth.
E.
1216b,
6, 1230a,
4,
1246b, 33;
(Arist.)
Ma.
Mor.
i,
1,
5-7;
Diog.
L.
iI,
31.
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Socrates 295
preciselyby corresponding
xpressions
n
the Clouds.24
One
may add two moreelements, rom heApology lone: an un-
questionedassumption
hat the
good
was
also the will of
God,
and that therefore ts
pursuit through introspection nd
definition
was also
a moral
mperative:
nd
a
hope,
but
not
a
conviction,
hat soul
persistedbeyond death,
still
exercising
its properfunction
f
thinking,
nd
preoccupied
with
ts
own
self-consciousness.
As can be readily een,Platonismconsistedmainly nwork-
ingouit he implications
f
these deas in the fields
f
psychol-
ogy, politics, epistemology,
nd, finally, osmology. But
in
so
doing
Plato
transcendedSocraticism,
which
in the
last
resortwas only a method,
and produced a set
of
positive re-
sults.
Nevertheless,
he
harvestgleaned by Socrates was not
a
meagre one,
if t is
judged in its historic
etting. European
thoughthas acceptedwhat he gave it so readily and without
question that it has grownunconscious of the gift,which is
perhaps why modernhistorical criticismhas sought to put
into his
mouth a set of
doctrineswhich may seem more ela-
borate,
n
keepingwith
the
intellectual laboration
of
our
day,
but are
scarcelymore
mDosing.
24
For soul cf. ines
94, 329,
415,
420, and also Birds
1553 ff.:
elf-knowledge,
242, 385, 695,
842:
the
proposition, 89,
757:
?rTIfsq,
728,
737, 768: &wopia,
703, 743:
bra-ywy'y,
427:
essential
definition,94, 250,
479, 742,
886.