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I had my Mobula sized this past Friday at a local Mall watch shop. I first went to this one
watch shop and ask to get the bracelet sized. He asked if it was an Invicta (holding the
yellow box) and said yes. He pointed to a watch shop right across the corridor and said
'over there'. I thought to myself, "what difference should it make, what brand you want
sized" and went to the shop he recommended. Entering the store I said " I was referred
here". The person said "a Invicta huh". I said 'yes', can you size the bracelet, he said 'sure'.
When he seen the watch he asked what I paid, I replied " 170.00 something". He replied
back "you could have got this for a 100.00 @ 'Big Five' sporting goods. I said 'really', it just
came out. After a couple of fittings he came back, put the watch on & said 'this isn't real
ceramic'. I replied 'how can you tell?'. He said because of the sound it made when tapped
by a mallet. He also continued to say he used to sell Invicta's when they only made
'automatic's'. I asked why he didn't continue to carry the line and he replied 'the auto's'
always had issues. Last thing he told me was 'don't drop the watch, it will shatter'. When I
got home I was thinking what a 'hater' this dude was. He will never get any more business
from me, that is for sure. First off, as a professional you never 'knock' what someone has
purchased. IMO this dude was a jerk to say the least. Secondly, when I got home on the out
side of the bracelet I seen the pins from two links sticking out. A minor fix for me. If this
guy wanted to make me feel like a 'jerk' for buying this watch...it didn't work. In fact, quite
the opposite. Just had to vent, its been bugging me. Exactly what the "prick" wanted I
suppose.
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05-29-2011, 09:50 AM
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I wonder, does he feel his job is to help the customer, or just attack the watch he's wearing?
What an idiot.
I sure wouldn't go back...
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05-29-2011, 09:57 AM
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You were lucky to get a "read" on his character early ... before you brought him ANY more
expensive pieces ... regardless of brand. He did you a favor and didn't know it. Be sure you
spread the word to all your friends.
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05-29-2011, 10:01 AM
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05-29-2011, 10:02 AM
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Time to buy a tool kit n do it yourself
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05-29-2011, 10:04 AM
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You handled it better then I would have, I would have lit him up like a Christmas Tree!
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05-29-2011, 10:09 AM
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05-29-2011, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RipitRon
You handled it better then I would have, I would have lit him up like a Christmas Tree!
.............. lol ............ Blue
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05-29-2011, 10:11 AM
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I wish you would have asked him when, exactly, it was that Invicta only made automatics.
That one is new to me. Also would have like to ask him what material that was was made
out of (since it wasn't actual ceramic) that won't scratch. It is hard to come up with material
that you can run a piece of stainless steel across many times and not scratch it.
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05-29-2011, 10:14 AM
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I have had the same experience with a local (mom and pop) Jeweler. I had taken a Sub
Aqua Specialty in for sizing. I did not carry the box in, but just the watch. When I handed
the watch over to the "mom" behind the counter, she barked about how heavy the watch
was and that wearing something of this weight could and would damage the nerves in my
wrist. I thanked her for her concern. She took the watch back to her husband, "pop," to size
(after I explained just how many links out from both sides). I could hear him mumble about
the weight and size of the watch, "It was Gaudy!"
After a couple of minutes, the owner (pop) emerged from the back carrying the watch in a
tray. At that time, several other customers were in the store looking. When the owner set
down the tray to have me try the watch on to insure its fit, one of the other customers came
over to ask about the watch. Before the customer could ask, the owner told them, "We don't
sell this type of watch here, you have to purchase 'Something' like this from one of those
Home Shopping Programs on TV." He (customer) actually seemed to ignore him and
continued to show interest in what I was putting on.
The owner continued to push more falsehoods out as the customer exhibited more and more
interest in my watch. Finally the customer asked me how much I paid for the watch. I had
paid $270 (Close-out with the ETA 251 movement), and the customer turned and asked the
owner if he had an all black watch, with 500 meter water resistance for around $300 or less
and, "looked that good?" The owner quickly shuffled over to the other counter and reached
under the counter and brought out two watches.... A Casio G-Shock and some brand I had
not heard of. The customer asked if he could put my Invicta SAS down next to the other
watches... As the customer made note, there was no comparison in the look between the
three watches. While the Casio is a fine watch, it really isn't one you can wear with a suit at
a business or formal function. The off-brand (or house brand) had a Chinese movement, and
it was only water resistant to 50 meters. Both were under $300 and yet the owners (now
both mom and pop) were trying to find a way to down sell the Invicta and up-sell their
products.
I finally asked what my bill for the adjustment. I also told both of them that I did not
appreciate their putting me in a position, defending my decision to purchase this watch. I
mentioned that I do purchase jewelry for my wife, but I most likely would not come back for
any pieces. I paid my bill and walked out. Oddly, the customer followed me out and
apologized for the situation. He gave me his card (VP at VISA, SF) and asked if I could email
him all the details as to where he could pick up a SAS.
I am sure the shop lost him as a future customer as well.
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05-29-2011, 10:25 AM
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It's a shame that there are business people out there that are ignorant and find it better to
bash a quality item than educate themselves. I have been much luckier. Before I started
sizing my watches i went to my local jeweler. The owner admired my timepieces. Though he
did not sell them he was happy to help me and compliment what I was wearing. As some
said I would not take kindly to a person who knocks an item without really looking into it. Or
maybe they had a bad experience. You can buy a high end watch , car , television etc. and
have a problem That's life. Hopefully the company stands behind their product and does the
right thing. I own 32 Invictas and have had too send at least three back for repairs. It took
some time but they were fixed to my satisfaction. Enough of my rant on this. Have a great
weekend.
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05-29-2011, 10:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoloZolo
I had my Mobula sized this past Friday at a local Mall watch shop. I first went to this one
watch shop and ask to get the bracelet sized. He asked if it was an Invicta (holding the
yellow box) and said yes. He pointed to a watch shop right across the corridor and said
'over there'. I thought to myself, "what difference should it make, what brand you want
sized" and went to the shop he recommended. Entering the store I said " I was referred
here". The person said "a Invicta huh". I said 'yes', can you size the bracelet, he said sure.
When he seen the watch he asked what I paid, I replied " 170.00 something". He replied
back "you could have got this for a 100.00 @ 'Big Five' sporting goods. I said 'really', it
just came out. After a couple of fittings he came back, put the watch on & said 'this isn't
real ceramic'. I replied 'how can you tell?'. He said because of the sound it made when
tapped by a mallet. He also continued to say he used to sell Invicta's when they only made
'automatic's'. I asked why he didn't continue to carry the line and he replied 'the auto's'
always had issues. Last thing he told me was 'don't drop the watch, it will shatter'. When I
got home I was thinking what a 'hater' this dude was. He will never get any more business
from me, that is for sure. First off as a professional you never 'knock' what someone has
purchased. IMO this dude was a jerk to say the least. Secondly, when I got home on the
out side of the bracelet I seen the pins from two links sticking out. A minor fix for me. If
this guy wanted to make me feel like a 'jerk' for buying this watch...it didn't work. In fact,
quite the opposite. Just had to vent, its been bugging me. Exactly what the "prick" wanted
I suppose.
Not trying to defend the guy at all, he was un-proffesional! That being said, Invicta, along
with ShopNBC and eBay is killing, I mean really killing the brick and mortar guys. My
watchmakers can't sell a watch unless it s Timex or something under 50.00. He has Rolex,
Piaget, Fortis etc and they are all sitting there at a real deep discount (accept for the Rolex)
collecting dust. Fortunately he fixes watches for jewelers all over the world so he's busy but
sales suck. They do a decent jewelry business but even that is way down!
So the guys is probably wondering how's he going to make payroll and the rent this month
and when we go into those stores and give them 10.00 to size a watch we bought someplace
else they get pissed.
You should buy a tool kit and do the sizing your self. The tubes aren't that hard to do if you
have the right tools.
Good Luck!
Ron
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05-29-2011, 10:28 AM
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ya gotta' feel sorry
ya gotta feel sorry for bricks and mortar jewelry shops
who have to compete against The Shop
whose merchant to consumer model brings the price down
not defending mom and pop---
but what if it was your mom and pop in that store competing against The Shop ?
and
Lior on WOW
mom and pop must really put the hate on LIOR
the world keeps changing
tell your children
not to be buggy whip or candle stick makers; and oh yeah, mom and pop jewelry stores
where the customer buys a watch on TV brings it to you to take out a link for $5 and your
mall rent is $5000-- not a business.
ya gotta' feel sorry
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05-29-2011, 10:34 AM
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I just don't understand this. I can see the loss of business aspect, but beyond that, why so
much hate? Mom and Pops can sell Invictas, right? Maybe it's the price, blowin their
margins...
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05-29-2011, 10:37 AM
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Yup all 11 of my Invicta automatics just suck! lol
YOU HANDLED IT RIGHT
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05-29-2011, 10:43 AM
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Unfortunately people don't understand what people actually want in a product. that happens
a lot when they are sizing a new piece realizing that the person sizing it lost the money of
the sale. But they will not take interest in what is current and carry a more modern
selection.
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05-29-2011, 10:51 AM
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05-29-2011, 11:09 AM
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There's a lot of hate and jealousy in this world. I did a search on the internet for "Invicta
Vortiz" and had several of the other watch forums pop-up discussing it. I couldn't live life
with that much hate in my heart.
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05-29-2011, 11:34 AM
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Not only is the guy an Invicta Hater he also contradicted
himself in his discussion with you..
Ceramic can and does shatter..if it's not ceramic what other
material does he think it is that would cause it to shatter if one
dropped it on the floor..HMM sounds like he is a hater and
ignorant at the same time..
I would have told him thanks for the sound advice I'll take my
business down the street..
Jon
BTW The Mobula line of timepieces are stunning..congrats on
buying one..sorry you had to put up with that guys S**t..Not
every jeweler is like that...
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoloZolo
I had my Mobula sized this past Friday at a local Mall watch shop. I first went to this one
watch shop and ask to get the bracelet sized. He asked if it was an Invicta (holding the
yellow box) and said yes. He pointed to a watch shop right across the corridor and said
'over there'. I thought to myself, "what difference should it make, what brand you want
sized" and went to the shop he recommended. Entering the store I said " I was referred
here". The person said "a Invicta huh". I said 'yes', can you size the bracelet, he said sure.
When he seen the watch he asked what I paid, I replied " 170.00 something". He replied
back "you could have got this for a 100.00 @ 'Big Five' sporting goods. I said 'really', it
just came out. After a couple of fittings he came back, put the watch on & said 'this isn't
real ceramic'. I replied 'how can you tell?'. He said because of the sound it made when
tapped by a mallet. He also continued to say he used to sell Invicta's when they only made
'automatic's'. I asked why he didn't continue to carry the line and he replied 'the auto's'
always had issues. Last thing he told me was 'don't drop the watch, it will
shatter'. When I got home I was thinking what a 'hater' this dude was. He will never
get any more business from me, that is for sure. First off as a professional you never
'knock' what someone has purchased. IMO this dude was a jerk to say the least. Secondly,
when I got home on the out side of the bracelet I seen the pins from two links sticking out.
A minor fix for me. If this guy wanted to make me feel like a 'jerk' for buying this watch...it
didn't work. In fact, quite the opposite. Just had to vent, its been bugging me. Exactly
what the "prick" wanted I suppose.
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05-29-2011, 11:54 AM
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" INVICTA RULES THE PLANET ". and the Haters Hate it .
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05-29-2011, 12:00 PM
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I have a few watch guys/jewelers near me that have a lot in common in terms of their
personalities. 3 people isn't exactly a pattern for all but I am curious if they don't have some
of the same things in common with the watch guys/jewelers you folks go to.
My guys are real perfectionists, artistic and very opinionated (if asked their opinion or not).
They all like smaller and older watches, too. They all wear watches that are at least ten
years old and probably around 37-38mm in case size. They all have made comments or just
"certain negative looks" about the larger size of my watches. They haven't picked on Invicta
in particular but they clearly seem to want to sell me watches and not just service them and
those watches would all be less than 45mm. I doubt that they would be in favor of any XL
sized Invicta. I don't think I've seen anything > 45mm in any of their shops anyway.
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05-29-2011, 12:12 PM
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ive had the exact opposite happen to me with my invictas... i
went to a shop that sells high end brands as i was doing price
research on a Breitling SA, the guy who was showing me the
SA's could not stop telling me how beautiful my Subaqua
Specialty was... i guess it depends on where you go... i see it
like this, if you do not have haters you're doing something
wrong...
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05-29-2011, 12:15 PM
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It's truly a shame that this jeweler acted as he did. I can only give my experience. Prior to
sizing my watches myself I always went to a local jeweler/watchmaker. Ever since I brought
my larger Invictas into be either serviced or sized by him he's always shown an immense
amount of interest in them. Never a bad word, sideways glance, or negative remark. He's
always enjoyed working on them and found them interesting.
Just so you're all aware, he sells nothing but Rolex, Breightling, Tissot, Chopard and Mount
Blanc. He's never afraid to pull out any of these for me to look at and always has kind
remarks about what I bring in.
Because of this approach he's got a customer for life with me. I always feel terrific about
what I own when I walk out of his store/shop.
Here's hoping that you find another jeweler who will show you the respect you deserve!
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05-29-2011, 12:19 PM
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you know what the problem is that your watch is better than anything in his shop and he
knows it i do my own sizing but for two or three months i would take every watch to him and
have him do the work but thats just me stuff like that makes me happy you dont take your
car to get there opinion on how the like it its to fix it and they keep there thoughts to them
self
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05-29-2011, 12:20 PM
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What F'n Jerks !
They would Never see any of my business again either... Geeeeeez
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I have had the same experience with a local (mom and pop) Jeweler. I had taken a Sub Aqua Specialty in for sizing. I did not carry the box in, but just
the watch. When I handed the watch over to the "mom" behind the counter, she barked about how heavy the watch was and that wearing something of
this weight could and would damage the nerves in my wrist. I thanked her for her concern. She took the watch back to her husband, "pop," to size
(after I explained just how many links out from both sides). I could hear him mumble about the weight and size of the watch, "It was Gaudy!"
After a couple of minutes, the owner (pop) emerged from the back carrying the watch in a tray. At that time, several other customers were in the store
looking. When the owner set down the tray to have me try the watch on to insure its fit, one of the other customers came over to ask about the watch.
Before the customer could ask, the owner told them, "We don't sell this type of watch here, you have to purchase 'Something' like this from one of
those Home Shopping Programs on TV." He (customer) actually seemed to ignore him and continued to show interest in what I was putting on.
The owner continued to push more falsehoods out as the customer exhibited more and more interest in my watch. Finally the customer asked me how
much I paid for the watch. I had paid $270 (Close-out with the ETA 251 movement), and the customer turned and asked the owner if he had an all
black watch, with 500 meter water resistance for around $300 or less and, "looked that good?" The owner quickly shuffled over to the other counter
and reached under the counter and brought out two watches.... A Casio G-Shock and some brand I had not heard of. The customer asked if he could
put my Invicta SAS down next to the other watches... As the customer made note, there was no comparison in the look between the three watches.
While the Casio is a fine watch, it really isn't one you can wear with a suit at a business or formal function. The off-brand (or house brand) had a
Chinese movement, and it was only water resistant to 50 meters. Both were under $300 and yet the owners (now both mom and pop) were trying to
find a way to down sell the Invicta and up-sell their products.
I finally asked what my bill for the adjustment. I also told both of them that I did not appreciate their putting me in a position, defending my decision to
purchase this watch. I mentioned that I do purchase jewelry for my wife, but I most likely would not come back for any pieces. I paid my bill and
walked out. Oddly, the customer followed me out and apologized for the situation. He gave me his card (VP at VISA, SF) and asked if I could email him
all the details as to where he could pick up a SAS.
I am sure the shop lost him as a future customer as well.
Great, great story Chris! Way to go! Remember, there is no such thing as a bad business, only bad owners! Always vote with your pocket book, and
before you know it, that retail space will be selling donuts!!!!!
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05-29-2011, 12:28 PM
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No bueno. I would've lit him up as well.
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05-29-2011, 12:29 PM
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Prior to buying a watch sizing kit (thinking I couldn't do it myself) I use to go to one of three
or four places in the malls. I never had any bad experiences and for the most part, those
places also sell Invicta.
Having worked retail sales/management many years before my current career... customer
service goes a long way. Even if you don't sell, service or like something.. you never bad
mouth it. You simply try to sell what you have, comparing the pros/cons of each. A smart
consumer wants an honest salesman.
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05-29-2011, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
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There are alot of arrogant people in this world.
Ditto ! AND may I ADD, alot of IGNORANT People as WELL .
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05-29-2011, 12:33 PM
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Hmm too bad for that guy--go somewhere else. Personally, I have two watch places that
have always complimented me on my Invicta's-sized them for 5 bucks and have never said
one negative thing about the company.
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05-29-2011, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwin66
Not only is the guy an Invicta Hater he also contradicted
himself in his discussion with you..
Ceramic can and does shatter..if it's not ceramic what other
material does he think it is that would cause it to shatter if
one dropped it on the floor..HMM sounds like he is a hater and
ignorant at the same time..
I would have told him thanks for the sound advice I'll take my
business down the street..
Jon
BTW The Mobula line of timepieces are stunning..congrats on
buying one..sorry you had to put up with that guys S**t..Not
every jeweler is like that...
Jon......
Does this look familiar? It looks like Akribos copied a Perregaux design...
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05-29-2011, 12:44 PM
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you know what it is...what is it that they are tired of people bringing in INVICTA'S for them
to size...instead of people buying their watches instead....thats why when you bring them
one to size they think oh god not another INVICTA...after having just one experience like
this...I decided to buy my own tools...FORGET THEM I SAY...they arent worth toe jam( I
wanted to say they arent worth something else..but this is a family friendly site...)go ahead
buy your own tools...
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05-29-2011, 12:46 PM
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Invicta is a lightning rod that's for sure. That guy was an idiot for running off business.
There is more than one formula for ceramics btw.
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05-29-2011, 12:51 PM
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you know what it is...what is it that they are tired of people bringing in INVICTA'S for them
to size...instead of people buying their watches instead....thats why when you bring them
one to size they think oh god not another INVICTA....this DEAL with people like this
again...after having just one experience like this...I decided to buy my own tools...FORGET
THEM I SAY...they arent worth toe jam( I wanted to say they arent worth something
else..but this is a family friendly site...)go ahead buy your own tools...
Ivan.I agree 100%. I do my own bracelet adjustments now because I got tired of listening to
somebody give me a lecture about on-line purchases. After the first "encounter", I learned
not to tell them what I paid for it. lol
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What does that have to do with my remark..IWG does some
homages just as Stuhrling O does..
My aforementioned comment had to do specifically with the
jeweler contradicting himself with respect to the material
being used....not real ceramic he says...don't drop it on the
floor he says..what is it made of then plastic?? Ceramic can
and will brake if dropped or hit hard with a mallet...I don't
remember the jeweler making a remark about the timepiece in
question being an homage or out right copy of another
brand..correct me if I am wrong..
Jon
Quote:
Originally Posted by mba1996
Jon......
Does this look familiar? It looks like Akribos copied a Perregaux design...
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05-29-2011, 01:14 PM
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Your expierence must be universal! I had the same type of thing happen when I got my
Invictas and a Renato T-Rex sized. The "jeweler" was trashing the watch as a "T.V." brand.
His jewerly counter displayed dozens of new watches, (mostly common asian makes). They
were all 38-40 mm's and looked like the same watches I've been seeing for the past 40
years. He probably hadn't sold one in months. (that's why he became snotty). I asked him if
he had ever worked on 7750's? He looked at me like I came form Mars. "What's that"? he
asked. Then I knew he was no watch expert, just a tinkerer who knew "squat" about
watches. Doing my own sizing now.
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05-29-2011, 01:15 PM
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Such an idiot. He had no right to say that stuff.
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05-29-2011, 01:29 PM
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They couldn't beat em...
They didn't join em...
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05-29-2011, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hawk27
Your expierence must be universal! I had the same type of thing happen when I got my
Invictas and a Renato T-Rex sized. The "jeweler" was trashing the watch as a "T.V." brand.
His jewerly counter displayed dozens of new watches, (mostly common asian makes). They
were all 38-40 mm's and looked like the same watches I've been seeing for the past 40
years. He probably hadn't sold one in months. (that's why he became snotty). I asked him
if he had ever worked on 7750's? He looked at me like I came form Mars. "What's that"?
he asked. Then I knew he was no watch expert, just a tinkerer who knew "squat" about
watches. Doing my own sizing now.
I completely understand... I have since purchased
from Amazon.com
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05-29-2011, 01:47 PM
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Nice do it yourself kit from Amazon..How much may I ask was
the price..
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glacierdog
I completely understand... I have since purchased
from Amazon.com
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05-29-2011, 01:52 PM
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I avoid buying TV watches with bracelets that need sizing. I'm not exactly handy with tools,
and I also don't feel like trotting my watches out to a jeweler who doesn't want to waste his
time on a $10 fitting.
It seems Invicta or the other TV brands would offer to size the watches to the consumer's
specifications. They must know local watch dealers don't want to bother with this.
Of course, why spend money on something that might convenience your customers? It
seems Invicta would rather just tell me how easy it is to size my own watch, then point and
laugh when I have trouble doing it.
Invicta is becoming large enough, perhaps they can invest in brick-and-mortar stores or
service centers.
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05-29-2011, 01:54 PM
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Differently will get the tool kit. Never a question in my mind not to do the sizing, just need
to to get the tool kit. I was going to ask him more questions...but, reserved doing so.
Normally with his type of personality it would have been a waste of my time. Bottom line is I
am happy with the watch, in quality and presence. And yes, it was the best looking time
piece in his shop...lol
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05-29-2011, 02:08 PM
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I size my own watches as well but I really think these shop owners are making
a mistake . Think about this if word gets out they size Invicta watches with a
smile at the rate people buy them, 10 bucks a pop for 2 minutes work is not a
bad deal. It adds Up
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05-29-2011, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willie99
I avoid buying TV watches with bracelets that need sizing. I'm not exactly handy with
tools, and I also don't feel like trotting my watches out to a jeweler who doesn't want to
waste his time on a $10 fitting.
It seems Invicta or the other TV brands would offer to size the watches to the consumer's
specifications. They must know local watch dealers don't want to bother with this.
Of course, why spend money on something that might convenience your customers? It
seems Invicta would rather just tell me how easy it is to size my own watch, then point
and laugh when I have trouble doing it.
Invicta is becoming large enough, perhaps they can invest in brick-and-mortar stores or
service centers.
actually willie99...you may want to some research before you make statements....INVICTA is
not cosidered a "TV" brand and secondly INVICTA does have retail stores...there is one in
Orlando...in a shopping area called City Walk.... I am sure there are other stores as
well...but I am not the one that made that statement ..you did...just because you have not
heard of any in your area doesnt mean they do not exist....do the research.....
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05-29-2011, 02:15 PM
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I really can't believe the stupidity of these clowns at the mall brick and mortars shops. To be
honest with the value and selection Invicta offers and the timepieces available on the shop
and the Internet in general; they should realize they're almost a dying breed. Bad customer
treatment, insane markups and VERY LIMITED selection of brands sounds like a recipe for a
business tanking for sure!
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05-29-2011, 02:27 PM
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You are the better person, the way you handled
that situation. Bravo my friend!
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05-29-2011, 02:53 PM
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As far as watchmakers are concerned there will always be
'haters'....I'm currently looking for a new watch maker in my
area, because there are some repairs that inexperienced geeks
like myself cannot do...My former watchmaker made one
comment too many with me touting Invicta watches as being a
TV Brand...I guess he thinks they are not a legit company
because he doesn't see them in magazines parading in a fleet
of authorized dealer jewelry boutiques like his and therefore
could not hold a candle to any of his highly advertised brands..
Can anyone explain to me why these jewelers have such an
arrogant attitude when it comes to fixing these timepieces...do
they not want are money...Granted my former jeweler told me
that IWG does not supply and will not sell parts to anyone who
they deem not authorized...which begs the question who is...
either way it pisses me off
thanks for letting me vent
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05-29-2011, 03:35 PM
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While I can tell that my jeweler is skeptical, he never says a negative word. Actually takes a
bit if an interest, but never critical. He'll always have my business.
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05-29-2011, 03:46 PM
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Ok, as for the woe to the modern watch shopkeeper bit.... If business is really so bad for
that shopkeeper, or any shopkeeper, then he would try his best to make sure every single
customer felt like a million bucks leaving his shop, so that he would keep their business. This
guy wasn't a poor shop owner, he was just an @$$ hole.
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05-29-2011, 03:48 PM
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Well what can ya do...........................
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwin66
As far as watchmakers are concerned there will always be
'haters'....I'm currently looking for a new watch maker in my
area, because there are some repairs that inexperienced
geeks like myself cannot do...My former watchmaker made
one comment too many with me touting Invicta watches as
being a TV Brand...I guess he thinks they are not a legit
company because he doesn't see them in magazines parading
in a fleet of authorized dealer jewelry boutiques like his and
therefore could not hold a candle to any of his highly
advertised brands..
Can anyone explain to me why these jewelers have such an
arrogant attitude when it comes to fixing these
timepieces...do they not want are money...Granted my former
jeweler told me that IWG does not supply and will not sell
parts to anyone who they deem not authorized...which begs
the question who is...
either way it pisses me off
thanks for letting me vent
The same reason most other watch sites Hate Invicta. Jealousy is a mean thing!!!
I found over the years that high end Car people, Motorcycle people, Watch people are just
pissed off that The Corvette, Japanese cruisers, Invicta's make a product that equals or
surpasses theirs for generally 50% or more less. They arent pissed they have it bad, they
are pissed others have it better.
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05-29-2011, 04:39 PM
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Don't sweat it. Sounds like the dude might have been a little jealous of your watch. What a
knucklehead.
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05-29-2011, 04:46 PM
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The transaction would have been over after the first negative comment. How can you trust
the workmanship?
I take the watches I can't size or mess up to a kiosk in the hallway of my local mall. There's
a Japanese watch and jewelry repair dude there who seems to know his stuff. I've taken
many brands from ShopNBC to him. He says, in his opinion the Invictas I have brought him
are the best made with the highest grade materials of most of the watches he sees on a
daily basis. He is happy to work on them and always does a most excellent job.
I am getting better at doing my own sizing and strap/bracelet modifications. But I think I will
take my ceramic Invicta to him when I receive it.
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05-29-2011, 05:00 PM
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Right on Ron!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RipitRon
The same reason most other watch sites Hate Invicta. Jealousy is a mean thing!!!
I found over the years that high end Car people, Motorcycle people, Watch people are just
pissed off that The Corvette, Japanese cruisers, Invicta's make a product that equals or
surpasses theirs for generally 50% or more less. They arent pissed they have it
bad, they are pissed others have it better.
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05-29-2011, 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboyzback
actually willie99...you may want to some research before you make statements....INVICTA
is not cosidered a "TV" brand and secondly INVICTA does have retail stores...there is one
in Orlando...in a shopping area called City Walk.... I am sure there are other stores as
well...but I am not the one that made that statement ..you did...just because you have not
heard of any in your area doesnt mean they do not exist....do the research.....
Invicta IS a TV brand, it's the #1 brand sold by ShopNBC. How is that not a TV brand? I
know they also sell some watches in discount stores like Costco, Wal-Mart, and Home Depot,
but it's still a TV brand.
I realize there are a few Invicta brick-and-mortar stores, but I don't think this is the primary
way they sell their watches. At any rate, when something goes wrong with an Invicta watch,
I'm instructed to mail it in and pay the $28. There isn't an Invicta store anywhere nearby
that I can take it to.
The point of my post was to suggest that Invicta offer sizing of their bracelet watches that
are sold online or on ShopNBC. Nothing in my post was a misstatement or required
"research".
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05-29-2011, 05:55 PM
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Tourneau comes to mind..but you're right IWG does not have a
fleet of boutique stores, that I know of, that sell them on a
continual bases...I would also like to know why IWG does not
sell their parts to most if not all watchmakers who might want
to conduct repairs on them...What if any authorized dealers/
service centers exist that work with invicta other than
Tourneau...
Jon
Quote:
Originally Posted by willie99
Invicta IS a TV brand, it's the #1 brand sold by ShopNBC. How is that not a TV brand? I
know they also sell some watches in discount stores like Costco, Wal-Mart, and Home
Depot, but it's still a TV brand.
I realize there are a few Invicta brick-and-mortar stores, but I don't think this is the
primary way they sell their watches. At any rate, when something goes wrong with an
Invicta watch, I'm instructed to mail it in and pay the $28. There isn't an Invicta store
anywhere nearby that I can take it to.
The point of my post was to suggest that Invicta offer sizing of their bracelet watches that
are sold online or on ShopNBC. Nothing in my post was a misstatement or required
"research".
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05-29-2011, 06:32 PM
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I would NEVER return to a business who would INSULT me or my purchases.
Especially when you are there, doing THEM a favor, paying for a service.
Some ppl just live to be d*cks.
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05-29-2011, 07:05 PM
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I don't get it. The place I took my SAS to have it sized carries Mont Blanc, Breguet, TAG
Heuer, Baume & Mercier, Omega, Vacheron Constatin and others and they were polite and
professional. When the jeweler came out, he looked it over and said, "nice watch" while
weighing it with his hand. While he was in the back room one of the salesmen made a
comment about the heft of the watch and concern for my wrist but it was in the gentlest of
manner so as to not seem offensive, just funny. Whenever I go in to window shop, they
always accommodate me and let me handle the wares.
Why can't everyone just get along? I'm sorry to hear what you went through.
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05-29-2011, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
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Nice do it yourself kit from Amazon..How much may I ask was
the price..
Jon
You can find the repair kit http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000JHS1L4/ref=s9... for
$63.95
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05-29-2011, 07:14 PM
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Some people are just jackasses. I've experienced the same thing, but actually not with an
Invicta. It's happened with citizen and movado's. They didn't attack the brand, so I guess
it's not exactly the same, but treated me like I was a degenerate for not having bought the
watch from them, which I think is the main source of their resentfulness, regardless of
brand.
I size my own now, and do a better job.
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05-29-2011, 08:40 PM
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Walked into one place to get a battery changed on an Older Pro Diver I had. The guy was Oh
Invicta this and that. I was wearing My Venom at the time. So I took it off handed it to him
and said heavy huh? he said yes. I said ok Tell me what watch you have thats built that
Heavy is 500 meters Water resistant and I can get it for around 300 bux. He got real quiet
real fast.
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05-29-2011, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
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Invicta IS a TV brand, it's the #1 brand sold by ShopNBC. How is that not a TV brand? I
know they also sell some watches in discount stores like Costco, Wal-Mart, and Home
Depot, but it's still a TV brand.
I realize there are a few Invicta brick-and-mortar stores, but I don't think this is the
primary way they sell their watches. At any rate, when something goes wrong with an
Invicta watch, I'm instructed to mail it in and pay the $28. There isn't an Invicta store
anywhere nearby that I can take it to.
The point of my post was to suggest that Invicta offer sizing of their bracelet watches that
are sold online or on ShopNBC. Nothing in my post was a misstatement or required
"research".
Yeah...a "TV brand" that sells millions and millions of watches world wide. You have no clue
as to the reach we have as a brand and rather than find out the truth, you'd rather continue
to make ignorant comments.
As to your other comments concerning sizing watches...you should know that sizing the
watch for every customer is out of the question, right? I would point out how totally
outrageous your complaint is. But, based on your other comments, I know that it would be
falling on deaf ears.
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05-29-2011, 08:51 PM
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It shows the Mentality of a Worker Bee ... Not thinking as an Owner ... He will
always be at the mall doing one job or another ...
Know it All's ... Usually know - nothing at All ... They refuse to Learn and Grow
In addition ... Customer Service is Key ... ESP in this or any Economy
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05-29-2011, 09:05 PM
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I too have experienced watch repair places with genius employees
that know it all. I started doing my own watch sizing so I won't
bother them since they are so important and know that they are
way too busy to do.....their job!! My money will spend anywhere and
I guess they just have too much of it and really can't handle
making more money from someone like me. Any business owner, especially a
professional will never dog another business or product. If they do,
They have identified their character and what they stand for. They obviously want
their customers as a one time only. Their loss!! Your gain!!
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05-29-2011, 09:15 PM
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I took my Invicta 'sapphire elite' to get sized many years ago (not an auto, by the way)...I
was so excited, got her home and noticed that the permanent link was dinged...ever since,
i've sized my watches at home. the jeweler that sized my sapphire elite is now OUT OF
BUSINESS... poor workmanship...it gets you every time.
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05-29-2011, 09:29 PM
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Thanks Chris,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glacierdog
You can find the repair kit http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846 for
$63.95
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05-29-2011, 09:33 PM
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These "hater" threads are soooo entertaining. Fellas, these are just watches.
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05-29-2011, 09:45 PM
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Good Jewelers
There are enough good jewelers around to assist you on what ever watch you have. I would
have walked out with my watch and gone to another one.
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05-29-2011, 09:56 PM
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I have taken my watch to a older European watchmaker for sizing never a word about my
SAN III. I now go to a mall jeweler doesn't sell any watches really just batteries and sizing
and never a word about my Invictas. I do most of the sizing myself now. I keep telling
myself that after forty Invictas I need to look for something else, but Invictas are just too
good looking and made with quality parts that I keep coming back. I shop watches everyday
looking for a good deal on something I like.
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05-30-2011, 02:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwin66
I would also like to know why IWG does not sell their parts to
most if not all watchmakers who might want to conduct
repairs on them...
Jon
This is the biggest complaint I've heard about Invicta from watch repair people.
My guess would be Invicta has so many different watch models that it's extremely difficult to
keep all those parts available for resale to multiple watch repair personnel.
That's only my guess, but it would be nice if Invicta allowed selected watch makers to be
authorized repair centers.
This could help reduce some of the negative stigma...IMO
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05-30-2011, 03:42 AM
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WHOA........ Jon, I'm only pointing out this Akribos that I bought and the avatar you have
appears to have the same look as this dial face on my watch. nothing more. I already
commented on your OP and agreed. Had the same crap done to me. Read my post again.
I'm only commenting on my watch and your avatar. gheesh..... lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwin66
What does that have to do with my remark..IWG does some
homages just as Stuhrling O does..
My aforementioned comment had to do specifically with the
jeweler contradicting himself with respect to the material
being used....not real ceramic he says...don't drop it on the
floor he says..what is it made of then plastic?? Ceramic can
and will brake if dropped or hit hard with a mallet...I don't
remember the jeweler making a remark about the timepiece
in question being an homage or out right copy of another
brand..correct me if I am wrong..
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05-30-2011, 04:43 AM
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A nice "looking" timepiece, does not mean "well made" timepiece. Invicta does NOT move
product on a retail level. Invicta moves a majority of its product through online and
television media, making it a TV brand. There's no way around that. If they didn't have
product displayed on a retail level, they would have no basis for their MSRP. Even at
Tourneau, they are always deeply discounted. If you don't believe me, call one or go in.
Understandably, most won't, because they don't want to hear the music. I too was that type
when I first started collecting. Most of them had more personal value, than any real resale or
retail value. With that being said, watch collecting is a personal preference. Like what you
like, but never assume that because something is heavier and comes in 300 colors, it's
better than B&M brands.
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05-30-2011, 04:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horolgist232
Walked into one place to get a battery changed on an Older Pro Diver I had. The guy was
Oh Invicta this and that. I was wearing My Venom at the time. So I took it off handed it to
him and said heavy huh? he said yes. I said ok Tell me what watch you have thats built
that Heavy is 500 meters Water resistant and I can get it for around 300 bux. He got real
quiet real fast.
A venom is rated at 1000 meters water resistance.
A red brick is rated at 2500 meters water resistance. It must be better. Lol
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05-30-2011, 05:54 AM
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Regardless of whether there was any truth to what he was saying he shoulda just shut his
pie hole, sized your watch and let you be on your way. Fact is that Invicta sometimes
garners well deserved negative opinions, the are so many of them that there is sometimes
problems. We read about it everyday. As a retailer, customer service should be his goal, not
his misguided opinons......
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05-30-2011, 06:09 AM
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LOL - and that's why I get the poly/rubber straps...then I don't have to deal with fools at
watch shops/jewelers who bad-mouth Invicta. I love my Invictas and don't give a damn
about what other people think! P.S. maybe one day I'll learn to size a watch; too fearful of
scratching or gouging the heck out of a bracelet ;-)
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05-30-2011, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHUCK WAGON
Regardless of whether there was any truth to what he was saying he shoulda just shut his
pie hole, sized your watch and let you be on your way. Fact is that Invicta sometimes
garners well deserved negative opinions, the are so many of them that there is sometimes
problems. We read about it everyday. As a retailer, customer service should be his goal,
not his misguided opinons......
You7re 100% right Tony. Service peoploe need to do their job and not render unsolicited
negative personal opinions.Yes, any product that is defective may deserve a negative opinion
but before indicting invicta as being especially problematic one would have to know the total
number of pieces the company sells per yr and then strike a percentage of defects
and see if its really a problem or not. As a private business invicta doesnt have to publish
exact sales figures and since ive never personaly had any problems with my invictas im
happy with the brand.
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05-30-2011, 07:34 AM
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Buy a $8 sizing kit on line and do it yourself. Everyone on this forum should expect some
grief when bringing an Invicta in for sizing/service at mall shops/jewelers. It's not just the
watch brand. It's the fact that you didn't buy the watch from them and you don't look like a
future watch customer to them. They want to sell watches not band adjustments. Try taking
your Ford into BMW and ask them to put air in your tires. You may not get abused but
politely asked to take it to a gas station.
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05-30-2011, 07:47 AM
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a great thread, thats life, purchase and wear what you like. Some of us buy watches for the
watch not just the swiss glamour. peace out!
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05-30-2011, 08:00 AM
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I thought I heard Invicta sold to 3000+ retail outlets.
I'd of told him , if I wanted your opinion I'd ask for it...... If I thought you had a better watch
here I'd would have asked about them.
....or reached across the counter.
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05-30-2011, 08:07 AM
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Ive noticed a lot of stores are haters. If they sell watches that cost more than the one your
wearing.( Invicta drives watch prices down because they do sell a nice watch at a much
cheaper than most.) I had the same problem at a Ball Dealer ,was looking at a watch,he said
Ball was the only watch with tubes. I replied no. Deep Blue has tubes in their watches.The
man said the jury is still out on Deep Blue.I asked if the watch he was showing me was t100
and he said NO T25,ANYWAY I WASNT THERE TO COMPARE DEEP BLUE TO BALL I WAS
THERE TO LOOK AT BUYING A BALL BECAUSE IT HAD A 7751 MOVMT AND I LIKED IT.The
funny part is they sell Ball. Tissot ,and a few other high end watches.They havnt sold many
since ive been going in there.When I was leaving his wife asked me what I thought of Invict.
I told her it all depends on what you pay for. A week later I took my reserve pro diver up
there with the meterorite dial ,she loved it LOL,she asked me how much it was. I told her
about half as much as your cheapest watch LOL.I think all their watches are on clearance
now.
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05-30-2011, 08:17 AM
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Well, there is a broad spectrum within the term "Swiss". There is a big difference between
"barely Swiss made" and "fully Swiss made". With that being said, you either buy a watch
for 2 reasons. The look of the timepiece or the ingenuity put into the mechanicals. Rarely,
it's both. In any collectable genre, you'll always have snobs. But, it always works both ways.
Those having more valuable pieces thinking they are higher, and those thinking they got the
same quality for 200.00. Hey, if your proud of your pieces, be proud, no matter the cost.
But, you get what you pay for...hands down.
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05-30-2011, 08:22 AM
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I thought I heard Invicta sold to 3000+ retail outlets.
I'd of told him , if I wanted your opinion I'd ask for it...... If I thought you had a better
watch here I'd would have asked about them.
....or reached across the counter.
They may have that price tag, but nothing in their catalog would command that in retail.
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05-30-2011, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by meijin
I wish you would have asked him when, exactly, it was that Invicta only made automatics.
That one is new to me. Also would have like to ask him what material that was was made
out of (since it wasn't actual ceramic) that won't scratch. It is hard to come up with
material that you can run a piece of stainless steel across many times and not scratch it.
I would of asked more questions...I honestly didn't know much about Invicta's earlier
history. Apparently neither did this Yahoo! What would of been the 'worlds funniest Video' if
you would of been in my place . I have no doubt about the quality of the Mobula. I'm already
thinking it should be a 'Reserve' with a quartz version of the 8040N./SW500 for the auto
version.
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05-30-2011, 11:08 AM
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Funny thing, i have $10.00 watches and I have $5,000.00 dollar watches, they all have two
things in common. I bought each one because i loved it and they all tell time. I never had
anyone be rude but a ruined link can ruin a day. size all my own now lol
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05-30-2011, 11:27 AM
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I just don't understand this. I can see the loss of business aspect, but beyond that, why so
much hate? Mom and Pops can sell Invictas, right? Maybe it's the price, blowin their
margins...
You hit the nail on the head. They're complaining because they've had their butts handed to them over profit margins.
Brick and mortar shops CANNOT compete like they used to. It's time to change their way of thinking or get out of the business.
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05-30-2011, 11:43 AM
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I can understand a watch repair shop not liking working on Invicta because they can't get
parts, but to put down the watch when someone's coming in for a brarcelet sizing? That
makes no sense. If they are sizing an Invicta, Rolex, Breitling, Timex, Casio, Seiko, Omega
or any other watch...it's just sizing the bracelet! What difference should it make who made
or sold it. I don't go into my watch guy for a battery change and then start insulting all of
the god-awful looking watches in his case (just making a point. My guy actually sells some
very nice looking watches) It's a simple job of sizing a watch. Just shut up, size my watch,
take my money and say "Thanks for your business. Come again."
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05-30-2011, 11:56 AM
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there is no substitute for graceousness. i have been in retail and the last thing you do is to
knock another product to customers. it makes you look small and desperate. invicta can
make a product that is above other brands for less money for several reasons that most of
us already know. be proud of your invicta purchases and wear them like a rock star.
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05-30-2011, 01:35 PM
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Quote:
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you know what the problem is that your watch is better than anything in his shop and he
knows it i do my own sizing but for two or three months i would take every watch to him
and have him do the work but thats just me stuff like that makes me happy you dont take
your car to get there opinion on how the like it its to fix it and they keep there thoughts to
them self
Whew! That was one loooooooooong sentence! I was outta breath readin' it!
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05-30-2011, 03:19 PM
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I've been cross grain with the Invicta outlook a number of times but I'm 100% with Chief
this time.
Rude and arrogant doesn't put bacon in the kettle.
The guy is operating at cross-purposes to his goals. This has, at certain points in history,
been taken as prima facie evidence of insanity.
If his goal was to get you to reevaluate your thoughts on large watches he failed.
If his goal was to get more money out of you he failed.
Sometimes, people mystify me.
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05-30-2011, 04:00 PM
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Other than JCPenny, Tourneau, TJMAXX, Costco and Sams
Club..Can anyone in watchgeek land tell me where else Invicta
timepieces are sold...TV may not be the main venue for Invicta
but its still a lucrative venue none the less...I have no doubts
about IWG recognition and worldwide appeal as a brand not to
mention the revenue that it generates through a very wide
market share...If its true that Invicta timepieces are sold
worldwide to 3K plus outlets than can anyone list what those
stores are other than the ones that I mentioned..Authorized
dealers and repair services if any..
Just curious
I bought my very first Invicta from TJMAXX, an Ocean Ghost,
and fell in love with brand ever since
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ziggy10
I thought I heard Invicta sold to 3000+ retail outlets.
I'd of told him , if I wanted your opinion I'd ask for it...... If I thought you had a better
watch here I'd would have asked about them.
....or reached across the counter.
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05-30-2011, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MedicineMan
They may have that price tag, but nothing in their catalog would command that in retail.
HUH? I'm lost? What price tag.
........I never mentioned anything about prices.
I am pretty sure that Micheal's cohort Jill said 3000 retail stores sold Invicta and she
services them. Maybe I miss heard her?
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05-30-2011, 04:58 PM
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Invicta
[quote=ziggy10;2548647]HUH? I'm lost? What price tag.
........I never mentioned anything about prices.
I am pretty sure that Micheal's cohort Jill said 3000 retail stores sold Invicta and she
services them. Maybe I miss heard her?
I think one woman servicing 3000 retail stores would be a tough task. Unless they weren't
moving product. Invicta is not put into a retail environment to sell. They are put there to
establish a retail value, or MSRP. Nobody buys them at these prices. This is WHY a lot of
jewelers and watch boutiques don't sell, because they won't move at a comparable price
point. I personally have a good relationship with my local tourneau associates, including
their onsite gurus. They only move Invicta on deep discount. It's proof from the horses
mouth, not hate. Invicta makes a nice looking watch, but, they are more visual attention
getters. Essentially, people think you paid more than you really did for it. But they do NOT
compare to premium or super high end watchmakers. Shopnbc usually sells a little pricey,
but offers payments, which tips the scales for most that have limited weekly income. Other
than that, virtually all other Invicta sales, in this country, are through outlet sales. It's a
proven fact. Others like JcPenney are all on discount...always. I have higher end invictas
that I cherish, but I live in reality. Reality that it took me quite a while to realize. "you get
what you pay for".
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05-30-2011, 05:38 PM
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Our local dealers want the business!
I would not be going back to any jewelry store or shop that treated me that way. Besides, I
know how to handle that type of behavior! My local trusted jeweler does not operate that
way. In fact, he has never even charged me to size any watch of mine. I do all my own
sizing now, and prefer not to ask him again, unless I have one I feel uncomfortable doing.
He will not take money from me for sizing, even if I offer to pay. Of course, I buy other
jewelry, watch straps and bands, etc., and other items from his store. I also use them for
minor watch repair and some battery replacements.
This is a Mom and Pop operation that has been in business more than 60 years. They sell
Seiko, Citizen, and a few other lines. He always admires my watches, and gladly works on
them if I ask. I may even buy one of these lines one day, if he will give me more than the
customary 25% off retail. Anyway, with customer service like this, It's easy to understand
why they have been in business more than six decades!
There is one store in the local mall that sometimes has a few Invictas for sale, but the prices
don't even approach what we get from the Shop or WOW. In fact, their clerks always ogle
mine and wish they could sell some more styles like the ones I wear. All our jewelers locally,
handle other makers' watches like they really want your business, no matter where the
timepiece came from. That's the way it should be.
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05-30-2011, 05:48 PM
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Invicta pricing
Jon, Just curious...did you get a decent deal from TJ Maxx on your Ocean Ghost? Our local
TJM has a few Invictas, but the prices don't seem all that great. The jewelry department
manager did, however, hint that she might discount a little more than the listed prices.
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05-30-2011, 06:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Buy a $8 sizing kit on line and do it yourself. Everyone on this forum should expect some
grief when bringing an Invicta in for sizing/service at mall shops/jewelers. It's not just the
watch brand. It's the fact that you didn't buy the watch from them and you don't look like
a future watch customer to them. They want to sell watches not band adjustments. Try
taking your Ford into BMW and ask them to put air in your tires. You may not get abused
but politely asked to take it to a gas station.
Have you also noticed that most gas stations don't have air nowdays? Or, if they do, there's
a charge for a dinky compressor unit that may not even be in service...or some jerk has cut
off the air hose nozzle.
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You did great TW! I have people ask me all the time about my Invictas. They just look at the
watch and ask what it is. They say "Invicta". And I say yes, I love their reserve line (Ha!
Ha!). I had a gentleman from Neiman Marcus say how beautiful my Black IP SAS with the
titanium MOP was. He had to ask what brand and was facinated. He is a very upscale and in
the know gentleman. I felt very proud. I love my watches. Regardless, I buy what I like and
what I think looks good for me. Keep up the good work!
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In general, when you bring in a watch for a one time sizing the brick and mortar is getting the crumbs. They would have rather sold you the piece in the first place and then size it at no charge. Some stores are more vocal than others. __________________
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#98
Yesterday, 07:01 AM
Calvin Senior Geek
Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nashville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willie99
I avoid buying TV watches with bracelets that need sizing. I'm not exactly handy with
tools, and I also don't feel like trotting my watches out to a jeweler who doesn't want to
waste his time on a $10 fitting.
It seems Invicta or the other TV brands would offer to size the watches to the consumer's
specifications. They must know local watch dealers don't want to bother with this.
Of course, why spend money on something that might convenience your customers? It
seems Invicta would rather just tell me how easy it is to size my own watch, then point
and laugh when I have trouble doing it.
Invicta is becoming large enough, perhaps they can invest in brick-and-mortar stores or
service centers.
TV brand??? I sure when Bill Gates was in the garage making computers IBM called his
computers " cheap knock off of the real thing". Competition brings out the true character of
people.
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#99
Yesterday, 08:26 AM
bichondaddy1057 Master WatchGeek
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Humble, TX
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Real Name: Larry
The "mom and pop" stores are doing themselves a diservice by not setting
up store fronts on the web where they sell and / or advertise their
products or services...no matter what type of business. Just like in the
mid 1980's when the personal computer first came out...so many
businesses thought they could continue to do business the old fashion
way...with ledgers and typewriters. They were wrong....and now.... no
business that I know of doesn't do all their accounting and day to day
business on a computer. Why they continue to shy away from online sales
is a mystery to me. Why not carry and service products which are popular
and are big sellers??? It's just an act of stubborness and not being
eductated well enough.
If I owned a brick and mortar jewelery store....I would make sure I
carried some of the same watches that are popular...Invicta, Croton, Swiss
Legend, Stuhrling Original, Seiko, Casio and along with some high end
brands for the customer that wants a higher end watch. Sure...prices
wouldn't be the same...but if you service the watch....say offer free sizing
when you buy the watch....discounted watch repair service....free watch
check ups every year for automatics and other perks for buying your
watch from them...well....you create that added extra value that the
customer will get for buying their watch from you.
It's not hard to adapt to change if you have a passion for your
business....as a matter of fact....if you are not changing and growing your
business all the time....there is only one way your business is going to
go...into the tank...belly up...bankrupt!!!
Oh...BTW....the local jeweler that sizes my difficult to size Invicta's
carries Invicta and does quite well with them. His prices are a little higher
than the Sam's Club across the street.....but he offers free sizing...and if
he doesn't have a watch in stock...he can order it and gets them in within
two weeks. I don't know about you...but I have waited nearly 2 weeks for a
watch from Shopnbc before....so this really isn't that bad. At Sam's....if
they don't have what you are looking for...oh well. __________________
Larry in Humble, Tx
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#100
Today, 09:22 AM
Tmoran New Geek
Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 23
I always find it funny when people say that something isnt something because of the sound
it makes when you tap it. Sapphire crystals have Ting and mineral has a tang. this or that.
These dopes dont realize that its not just the material but the shape, thickness and any
dampening by the materials holding it together that will have an effect on its sound. Just like
the water test for sapphire crystals It is a myth and is not a fool proof test. California is
weird as when I went to gurnee mills mall and even another mall near to my house the
majority of all the dealers had invicta in the cases. And I mean everyone. There wasnt one
high end jewelry shop I walked into that didnt have an invicta section. They had em right
next to their Tags and and Omegas. It was also the first brand recommended to me for what
to get when told I wanted something nice on a budget. Come to illinois. The hating is much
less in these parts.
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Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,619
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This is a very foolish way for these retailers to treat customers especially in this economy.
They need all of the business they can handle. They are complete and utter idiots for
alienating we Invicta owners. Screw them!
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#102
Today, 12:16 PM
Boboy Senior Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 163
Interesting to see some of the recent threads regarding jewelers disdain for people buying
watches off TV or what they consider cheap brands. I tend to dismiss their opinion for one
reason, they can't compete.
I remember when Ebay started hitting it big in the late 90's, hearing a similar thing from all
the sports card dealers. The brick and mortar dealers simply could not compete with the
internet sales and most of them are now out of business for that reason.
Any jeweler that disparages your purchases is making a big mistake. They continue to have
their finger in the dike and the whole city has already flooded. If these guys want to stay in
business their only hope is to service watches. The problem is very many jewelers are not
good at servicing watches and make their money off sales.
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#103
Today, 12:53 PM
Invictaholic Senior Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 166
Again, when you work for the public, you must not dog
other competitors. It will bite you! This hater didn't accomplish
one thing, except make an ass out of himself and from what
it sounds like, he didn't have to exert too much effort. I'm assuming
he practices on this often. Maybe he is independently wealthy and
just does not need the business. Not!!!! A good business person
does not have to knock other competitors down to make a sale. Unfortunately,
this seems to be a tactic used by many. For me, it's a red flag saying,"stay
away from me because I really dont know what in the HELL I'm
talking about.
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#104
Today, 01:35 PM
OMaxgeek Senior Geek
Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Bedford, Ohio
Posts: 350
Real Name: Mark
Speaking from experience from working in and then owning a small "mom and pop"retail
store selling bicycles for 25 yrs, These guys and gals at jewely stores that are haters JUST
DON'T GET IT! There is nothing you can do about the sale you already lost...but you can do
something about the possible future sale. When we had customers come in beaming with
their recent mail order purchase for us to assemble, fix or just to show it off. Who were we
to criticize their purchase. I never like losing a sale but I would be devastated to lose a
customer. I would take every opportunity to appreciate that they made a choice to come
into my door, giving me the opportunity to make them "my customer".
These jewelers should be taking the time to let you know about all that they can do to keep
your watches running well and how convenient, professional and expert they are. If this was
done I am sure we would all return to have our "TV Brands" serviced/cleaned, adjusted,
sized.
What a lot of these haters are missing is that there is way more margin in services than in
selling watches. If you didn't get us for the watch then get us for the service. You never
know we just might get a watch or other jewelry from them some day. Unfortunately for
these haters they will never really know what business that the simple sizing of a watch
might garner. Most of these Haters will go by the way of the Dodo soon enough, and they
will close their doors all the while blaming us for their demise. LIKE I SAID, THEY JUST
DON'T GET IT.
Mark zzz
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#105
Today, 02:06 PM
brimsauce Senior Geek
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Baltimore Maryland
Posts: 305
Real Name: Brian
Whenever I go to a jeweler, they always comment on how nice my watch it. I'm guessing
they are partly saying that becuase they want my business, but you can tell others genuinely
love my watches...especially the Arsenal and venoms I have. I really love Invictas. I never
seem to get tired of new designs etc,...so it unnerves me a little to hear these stories. And
there seems to be a lot of them. WHY do they hate Invicta?
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#106
Today, 02:26 PM
Designx Member Geek
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 78
It comes down to avoiding the need to go somewhere to size your watch.
I've said this before but I think there can be great innovation and invention in regards to
resizing a watch. I think Invicta is a great company to possibly research in making sizing a
watch something anyone can do themselves by either including a tool with each watch or in
the design of the bracelet. I realize Invicta makes many watches that have included tools for
sizing or changing bracelets. Things like the quick pin strap change, allen wrench style
screws for strap change are great innovations as is the sea spider bracelet and numerous
rubber straps. I know Invicta sells the do-it yourself set for sizing but I think there can still
be some innovation in this area.