has special revelation ceased (v5)
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Yes
* Some verses strongly support and seem
to demand cessation – e.g. Deut. 4:2, 12:32; Jer. 26:2; Prov. 30:6; Matt. 15:6, 9;
1 Cor. 13:8-11; Rev. 22:18 – but ultimately
they are not conclusive and should not be claimed dogmatically as a compelling
proof. E.g. References to scripture or a book can be extended as being true of the whole Bible axiomatically only. Or, that the “perfect to come” is the completion of the NT has strong reasons why this is the true and correct interpretation, but it again
is ultimately only an axiomatic choice.
Has Special Revelation Ceased? The answer is an axiomatic one. That is, it is the chosen starting point of biblical Christianity: i.e. Sola Scriptura. NB Axioms cannot be proved, though they can be disproved. This does not mean we do not have “good reasons” for our choice; we should. But, reasons do not make for a compelling or irrefutable proof. They will not persuade anyone who defends another axiomatic start:
Yes
# See * and ^ above for verses and
required qualifications. See also e.g.: Jer. 14:14; Acts 17:11; Matt. 7:22-23 1 John 4:1 (Special Revelation is broad, but at the
very least it is “Thus sayeth the Lord”!)
^ Many verses speak on this issue e.g.:
Det. 13:1-5, 18:20-22; Eze. 13:2-18, 22:28; Jer. 23:21, 30-40; Zep. 3:4;
Matt. 7:15, 24:5, 11, 24; Mark 13:22; Luke 6:26; John 5:43; Acts 20:29-30; 1 Cor. 11:9; 2 Thes. 2:11-12;
2 Pet. 2:1
There is no new
SPECIAL REVELATION
(“THUS SAYETH THE LORD”).
All alleged prophesies are from false prophets.
Therefore, Mohammed or the Pope, or Petra the
Prophetess or Pentecostal Apostles and so on are all
false prophets, to be exposed and shunned. Attempts
to qualify this conclusion are blatantly inconsistent,
self-refuting and therefore false.
Yes
Such SPECIAL REVELATION is
redundant. There is neither need
nor place for it in the post-NT
times. The Bible alone is sufficient
and our authority for faith and life.
No amount of qualifying or twisting will succeeds
in evading the fact of this conclusion.
No
No
No Standard exists to test or judge the new Special Revelation as
from God or from Satan. This contradicts, say: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1; see also Acts 17:11, 20:29-30; Rom. 12:2; 1 Cor. 11:9; 1 Thes. 5:21; Rev. 2:2.). So, this view seems to be self-refuting and so false.
Mohammed, the Pope, Pentecostals or Petra the Prophetess etc. cannot be challenged. What Mohammed, the Pope or Petra the Prophetess etc. say or “prophesise” is as authoritative as the Bible. After all, what they claim is the very Word of God, authoritative for all and on par with the Bible, so that all may learn it and benefit.
This view adds to and in fact supplants the Bible as our authority of our
faith and life.
No
Such SPECIAL REVELATION is
certainly Satanic or pure psychotic
and hysterical self-delusion.
All such prophets are false prophets, to be exposed as such and shunned. Any attempt to avoid and
evade the force of this conclusion itself contradicts
the Bible and therefore proves itself false.
Is THE
instance of new
Special Revelation
in full accord with
the Bible?^
Has new
Special Revelation
as a WHOLE
ceased in post-NT
times?*
Does THE
instance of new
Special Revelation
contradict the
Bible?#
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Jeremiah 14:14
Then the LORD said unto me,
The prophets prophesy lies in
my name: I sent them not,
neither have I commanded
them, neither spake unto them:
they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a
thing of nought, and the deceit
of their heart.
Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day,
Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in
thy name have cast out devils?
and in thy name done many
wonderful works? And then will
I profess unto them, I never
knew you: depart from me, ye
that work iniquity.
In theory, God can and perhaps often works
these in our day. But, without some Special
Revelation attesting all miracles or signs, we
are utterly unable to tell if a miracle or sign is
from God or Satan; by definition both are
supernatural events. The miracles and signs
do not have a major impact on the faith of
believers; and without attendant Special
Revelation we must NOT focus on them.
Further, the primary if not THE exclusive
role of all miracles and signs is to attest and
authenticate those as speaking on behalf of
God, i.e., Special Revelation, as true prophets
of God. (e.g. Moses, Peter, Stephen or Paul.)
Whatever we agree about Special Revelation,
the same befalls miracles and signs. i.e. If
Special Revelation ceased or is in full accord
with the Bible, there is no place for the
miracles and signs. If they contradict the
Bible, then they are demonic. Else we must
accept Romanist, pagan etc. miracles and
signs too – after all God used Satan, false
prophets, witches and many evil men also.
We do NOT deny the fact of supernatural or unusual events.
We only wish to discover what is their originating agent or cause...
... and check how in principle at least we can test them.
“THUS SAYETH THE LORD”: be it in visions, dreams, signs, ‘tongues,’ writing etc.