has special revelation ceased (v5)

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Yes * Some verses strongly support and seem to demand cessation e.g. Deut. 4:2, 12:32; Jer. 26:2; Prov. 30:6; Matt. 15:6, 9; 1 Cor. 13:8-11; Rev. 22:18 but ultimately they are not conclusive and should not be claimed dogmatically as a compelling proof. E.g. References to scripture or a book can be extended as being true of the whole Bible axiomatically only. Or, that the perfect to comeis the completion of the NT has strong reasons why this is the true and correct interpretation, but it again is ultimately only an axiomatic choice. Has Special Revelation Ceased? The answer is an axiomatic one. That is, it is the chosen starting point of biblical Christianity: i.e. Sola Scriptura. NB Axioms cannot be proved, though they can be disproved. This does not mean we do not have “good reasons” for our choice; we should. But, reasons do not make for a compelling or irrefutable proof. They will not persuade anyone who defends another axiomatic start: Yes # See * and ^ above for verses and required qualifications. See also e.g.: Jer. 14:14; Acts 17:11; Matt. 7:22-23 1 John 4:1 (Special Revelation is broad, but at the very least it is Thus sayeth the Lord!) ^ Many verses speak on this issue e.g.: Det. 13:1-5, 18:20-22; Eze. 13:2-18, 22:28; Jer. 23:21, 30-40; Zep. 3:4; Matt. 7:15, 24:5, 11, 24; Mark 13:22; Luke 6:26; John 5:43; Acts 20:29-30; 1 Cor. 11:9; 2 Thes. 2:11-12; 2 Pet. 2:1 There is no new SPECIAL REVELATION (THUS SAYETH THE LORD). All alleged prophesies are from false prophets. Therefore, Mohammed or the Pope, or Petra the Prophetess or Pentecostal Apostles and so on are all false prophets, to be exposed and shunned. Attempts to qualify this conclusion are blatantly inconsistent, self-refuting and therefore false. Yes Such SPECIAL REVELATION is redundant. There is neither need nor place for it in the post-NT times. The Bible alone is sufficient and our authority for faith and life. No amount of qualifying or twisting will succeeds in evading the fact of this conclusion. No No No Standard exists to test or judge the new Special Revelation as from God or from Satan. This contradicts, say: Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world(1 John 4:1; see also Acts 17:11, 20:29-30; Rom. 12:2; 1 Cor. 11:9; 1 Thes. 5:21; Rev. 2:2.). So, this view seems to be self-refuting and so false. Mohammed, the Pope, Pentecostals or Petra the Prophetess etc. cannot be challenged. What Mohammed, the Pope or Petra the Prophetess etc. say or “prophesise” is as authoritati ve as the Bible. After all, what they claim is the very Word of God, authoritative for all and on par with the Bible, so that all may learn it and benefit. This view adds to and in fact supplants the Bible as our authority of our faith and life. No Such SPECIAL REVELATION is certainly Satanic or pure psychotic and hysterical self-delusion. All such prophets are false prophets, to be exposed as such and shunned. Any attempt to avoid and evade the force of this conclusion itself contradicts the Bible and therefore proves itself false. Is THE instance of new Special Revelation in full accord with the Bible?^ Has new Special Revelation as a WHOLE ceased in post-NT times?* Does THE instance of new Special Revelation contradict the Bible? # © Jack Larrane, 2010 Sydney - All Rights Reserved. Unmodified copy distribution at no charge is permitted as long as this copyright notice is included in full Has Special Revelation ceased (v5).docx29/11/2010 Jeremiah 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. In theory, God can and perhaps often works these in our day. But, without some Special Revelation attesting all miracles or signs, we are utterly unable to tell if a miracle or sign is from God or Satan; by definition both are supernatural events. The miracles and signs do not have a major impact on the faith of believers; and without attendant Special Revelation we must NOT focus on them. Further, the primary if not THE exclusive role of all miracles and signs is to attest and authenticate those as speaking on behalf of God, i.e., Special Revelation, as true prophets of God. (e.g. Moses, Peter, Stephen or Paul.) Whatever we agree about Special Revelation, the same befalls miracles and signs. i.e. If Special Revelation ceased or is in full accord with the Bible, there is no place for the miracles and signs. If they contradict the Bible, then they are demonic. Else we must accept Romanist, pagan etc. miracles and signs too after all God used Satan, false prophets, witches and many evil men also. We do NOT deny the fact of supernatural or unusual events. We only wish to discover what is their originating agent or cause... ... and check how in principle at least we can test them. THUS SAYETH THE LORD: be it in visions, dreams, signs, tongues,writing etc.

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Page 1: Has Special Revelation Ceased (v5)

Yes

* Some verses strongly support and seem

to demand cessation – e.g. Deut. 4:2, 12:32; Jer. 26:2; Prov. 30:6; Matt. 15:6, 9;

1 Cor. 13:8-11; Rev. 22:18 – but ultimately

they are not conclusive and should not be claimed dogmatically as a compelling

proof. E.g. References to scripture or a book can be extended as being true of the whole Bible axiomatically only. Or, that the “perfect to come” is the completion of the NT has strong reasons why this is the true and correct interpretation, but it again

is ultimately only an axiomatic choice.

Has Special Revelation Ceased? The answer is an axiomatic one. That is, it is the chosen starting point of biblical Christianity: i.e. Sola Scriptura. NB Axioms cannot be proved, though they can be disproved. This does not mean we do not have “good reasons” for our choice; we should. But, reasons do not make for a compelling or irrefutable proof. They will not persuade anyone who defends another axiomatic start:

Yes

# See * and ^ above for verses and

required qualifications. See also e.g.: Jer. 14:14; Acts 17:11; Matt. 7:22-23 1 John 4:1 (Special Revelation is broad, but at the

very least it is “Thus sayeth the Lord”!)

^ Many verses speak on this issue e.g.:

Det. 13:1-5, 18:20-22; Eze. 13:2-18, 22:28; Jer. 23:21, 30-40; Zep. 3:4;

Matt. 7:15, 24:5, 11, 24; Mark 13:22; Luke 6:26; John 5:43; Acts 20:29-30; 1 Cor. 11:9; 2 Thes. 2:11-12;

2 Pet. 2:1

There is no new

SPECIAL REVELATION

(“THUS SAYETH THE LORD”).

All alleged prophesies are from false prophets.

Therefore, Mohammed or the Pope, or Petra the

Prophetess or Pentecostal Apostles and so on are all

false prophets, to be exposed and shunned. Attempts

to qualify this conclusion are blatantly inconsistent,

self-refuting and therefore false.

Yes

Such SPECIAL REVELATION is

redundant. There is neither need

nor place for it in the post-NT

times. The Bible alone is sufficient

and our authority for faith and life.

No amount of qualifying or twisting will succeeds

in evading the fact of this conclusion.

No

No

No Standard exists to test or judge the new Special Revelation as

from God or from Satan. This contradicts, say: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1; see also Acts 17:11, 20:29-30; Rom. 12:2; 1 Cor. 11:9; 1 Thes. 5:21; Rev. 2:2.). So, this view seems to be self-refuting and so false.

Mohammed, the Pope, Pentecostals or Petra the Prophetess etc. cannot be challenged. What Mohammed, the Pope or Petra the Prophetess etc. say or “prophesise” is as authoritative as the Bible. After all, what they claim is the very Word of God, authoritative for all and on par with the Bible, so that all may learn it and benefit.

This view adds to and in fact supplants the Bible as our authority of our

faith and life.

No

Such SPECIAL REVELATION is

certainly Satanic or pure psychotic

and hysterical self-delusion.

All such prophets are false prophets, to be exposed as such and shunned. Any attempt to avoid and

evade the force of this conclusion itself contradicts

the Bible and therefore proves itself false.

Is THE

instance of new

Special Revelation

in full accord with

the Bible?^

Has new

Special Revelation

as a WHOLE

ceased in post-NT

times?*

Does THE

instance of new

Special Revelation

contradict the

Bible?#

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Jeremiah 14:14

Then the LORD said unto me,

The prophets prophesy lies in

my name: I sent them not,

neither have I commanded

them, neither spake unto them:

they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a

thing of nought, and the deceit

of their heart.

Matthew 7:22-23

Many will say to me in that day,

Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in

thy name have cast out devils?

and in thy name done many

wonderful works? And then will

I profess unto them, I never

knew you: depart from me, ye

that work iniquity.

In theory, God can and perhaps often works

these in our day. But, without some Special

Revelation attesting all miracles or signs, we

are utterly unable to tell if a miracle or sign is

from God or Satan; by definition both are

supernatural events. The miracles and signs

do not have a major impact on the faith of

believers; and without attendant Special

Revelation we must NOT focus on them.

Further, the primary if not THE exclusive

role of all miracles and signs is to attest and

authenticate those as speaking on behalf of

God, i.e., Special Revelation, as true prophets

of God. (e.g. Moses, Peter, Stephen or Paul.)

Whatever we agree about Special Revelation,

the same befalls miracles and signs. i.e. If

Special Revelation ceased or is in full accord

with the Bible, there is no place for the

miracles and signs. If they contradict the

Bible, then they are demonic. Else we must

accept Romanist, pagan etc. miracles and

signs too – after all God used Satan, false

prophets, witches and many evil men also.

We do NOT deny the fact of supernatural or unusual events.

We only wish to discover what is their originating agent or cause...

... and check how in principle at least we can test them.

“THUS SAYETH THE LORD”: be it in visions, dreams, signs, ‘tongues,’ writing etc.