god, time, and eternity ratio christi spring 2015 presented by andrew robbins
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GOD, TIME, AND ETERNITY
Ratio Christi Spring 2015Presented by Andrew Robbins
DOCTRINE OF GOD: FOUNDATION•Old Testament•New Testament
Key components:•Transcendence• Immanence
How can we know God?
THE GOD OF THE PHILOSOPHERS The One (The Ultimate):•Utterly simple•No parts, no properties•Ineffable• incommunicable•Unknowable•Beyond being•Impersonal
THE GOD OF AUGUSTINE
•Creatio ex Nihilo
•Beyond good
•Perfectly just
•Omnipotent
•Unchangeable
•An unsayable other
•All present being
•Incorporeal
•Timeless
•Purely abstract apprehension of another ontological possibility not thinking, not willing, not existing in the way we do
•“the qualities he imputed to God were so lofty, so far removed from human capacity, that it was foolish to claim that any human community possessed them fully”
DOCTRINE OF GOD: CONTENT•Ineffability (unknowable)
•Impassibility (emotionless)
•Immutability (changeless)
•Trinity (three persons in one essence)
•Omnipotence (all powerful)
•Omniscience (all knowing)
•Timelessness/Eternity (unending in time)
•Simplicity (indivisible)
•Necessity (the only necessary being)
GOD AND TIME
God has no beginning or end, is uncreated, eternal:• Isaiah 57:15, 41:4
• Hebrews 1:10-12• Psalms 90:2• Revelation 4:8b• Genesis 1:1• Proverbs 8:22-23• John 1:1-3• Jude 1:25
WHY FORMULATE A DOCTRINE OF GOD AND TIME?• Biblical Christianity has been attacked on the basis of divine eternity:
• “God the Creator, by His very nature, must transcend space and time… the coming into being of the
physical unioverse involved the coming to being of space and time as well as matter. I can’t emphasize
this too strongly and so if we wish to have a God who is in some sense responsible for the origin of the
universe or for the universe, then this God must lie outside of the space and time which is being
created.”
-Paul Davies
•Many Christian have already said careless/silly things about it
• Hugh Ross views God in a multi dimensional “hyper-time”
• There are many flawed and contradictory analogies people use to discuss this issue
GOD AND TIME: TWO THEORIES Divine TimelessnessGod is “outside” of time
Divine TemporalityGod is unending throughout all of time
WHAT IS TIME?
‘A’ theory of time Temporal becoming is real
The past and the future do not exist
‘B’ theory of time Time is a dimension of reality
All points in time are equally real
DIVINE TIMELESSNESS: ARGUMENT 1•Divine Immutability and Simplicity
1) God is immutable or simple
2) If God is immutable or simple, then He cannot be temporal
3) Therefore God is not temporal (i.e. He is timeless)
DIVINE TIMELESSNESS: ARGUMENT 2•The Theory of Relativity
1) STR is correct in its description of time
2) If STR is correct, then if God is temporal He is associated with one or more inertial frames
3) Therefore if God is temporal He is associated with one or more inertial
4) God does not exist in time associated with one or more inertial frames
5) Therefore God is not temporal
DIVINE TIMELESSNESS: ARGUMENT 3•The incompleteness of temporal life
1) God is the most perfect being
2) The most perfect being has the most perfect mode of existence
3) Temporal existence is not the perfect mode of existence
4) Therefore God is not Temporal
DIVINE TEMPORALITY: ARGUMENT 1•The impossibility of atemporal personhood
1) Necessarily, if God is timeless he does not have properties X, Y, Z
2) Necessarily if God does not have X,Y, Z, then God is not personal
3) Necessarily, God is personal
4) Therefore, Necessarily God is temporal
DIVINE TEMPORALITY: ARGUMENT 2 Divine relations with the world:
1) God is creatively active in the temporal world
2) If God is creatively active in the temporal world, then God is really related to the temporal world
3) If God is really related to the temporal world, then God is temporal
4) Therefore God is temporal
DIVINE TEMPORALITY: ARGUMENT 3 Divine Knowledge of tensed facts
1) A temporal world exists
2) God is omniscient
3) If a temporal world exists and God is omniscient, then God knows tensed facts
4) If God is timeless He does not know tensed facts
5) Therefore God is not timeless
TIMELESSNESS
Only makes sense on the ‘B’ theory of time
Implies utter immutability
Implies that all points in time are equally real, so no progress is ever actually made. i.e. sin is never really vanquished
It is difficult to understand how temporal beings (us) can have a relationship with an utterly static atemporal being (God).
DIVINE ETERNITY
God is unending throughout time
Permits God to have legitimate changing relationships with people
Fits with a view of divine immutability that allows for God’s accidental properties to change
Implies that God has thought processes, and can have knowledge of tensed facts
FOREKNOWLEDGE
Understanding foreknowledge depends on: ‘A’ or ‘B’ theory of time Divine eternity, or divine timelessness? Human freedom (or lack thereof)
HOW DOES GOD KNOW THE FUTURE? Calvinism (no freedom, Timelessness) God knows because he causes
Open Theism (freedom, Eternity) Freedom means that God cannot know the future
Arminianism (freedom, ‘B’ theory, timelessness) God ‘sees’ the future (i.e. the future must exist)
Molinism (freedom) God knows the future by virtue of middle knowledge
God knows what free creatures would do in any circumstances they would be placed in