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No 177 July 2008 Page Number 1 FLYER & SALVAGE ME123 Garford with Guy Ellis, Mark Hall, Jim Hall and Bob Weir at Randwick Fire Brigade’s Centenary

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Page 1: Flyer & Salvage Issue 177

No 177 July 2008

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FLYER &SALVAGE

ME123 Garford with Guy Ellis, Mark Hall, Jim Hall and Bob Weirat Randwick Fire Brigade’s Centenary

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From the Editor Aaron Bischoff

Welcome to issue 177 of the Flyer & Salvage. Thank you again to those who have called to say they are enjoying Flyer & Salvage. I had always looked forward to each copy that Brett put together and I am glad that I have been able to continue on from Brett and not disappoint.

In the last copy, there was an old photo that my grandfather had of the old Mines Rescue Station appliance. I had thought the old vehicle might have been an International but was never sure. Several people called to inform me that the vehicle was a Maple Leaf. Thanks to those who called.

Having returned to my crew after “running the show” at work, I had planned to attend Randwick’s Centenary with the crew and appliance from work. But as we signed on, we were sent out to Blacktown for a job and missed the event. Speaking to Guy, the day went along really well. Hopefully I’ll make an outing one day!

As always, a big thank you to everyone who sent in stories and photos. It makes it so much easier putting it all in place and this of course makes for a more interesting read. As always, submissions of stories and photos are always appreciated. And of course, if you want something added to the Flyer and Salvage as a regular article, just let me know.

Enjoy the read.

HFEA General Meeting

The next meeting of the Historic Fire Engine Association will be held on the 10th

August 2008 at Huntingwood Fire Station.Remember that each meeting now incorporates a run. So come along with your fire engine.

A friendly reminder!

A number of our members have yet to pay their 2008 Membership Fees. If you happen to be one of those members, please take this as a final reminder to pay. If payment is not received within the next month, your membership will lapse. If you have paid and have not yet received a receipt please advise the Secretary ASAP.

www.hfea.com.au

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HFEA attends Randwick Fire Brigade Centenary

On Saturday 14th June 2008, Randwick Fire Brigade celebrated their centenary. The HFEA attended with three appliances and the Museum Of Fire attended with the Mack Ladders.

In addition to the display of fire appliances, both past and present, there were displays of photos and items of interest show casing the 100 years of service that the brigade has given the community.

In particular, there was a photo of the Randwick crew with the station’s Garford taken in 1948. Having a Garford on display for the day, it was too good an opportunity to miss to recreate that photo. Dressed in period turn out gear, Guy Ellis, Bob Weir, Mark and Jim Hall were able to take us back the 60 years.

On display for the day were:

Guy Ellis’s 1924 GarfordJim & Mark Hall’s 1947 Dennis Light 4Museum of Fire’s 1942 Mack Ladders driven by Mark WhiteGuy Ellis’s 1984 International 'White Knight" driven by Brett Williams

Randwick fire fighters with the 1924 Garford

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On display for the centenary: 1924 Garford, 1947 Dennis Light 4, 1942 Mack Ladders and the 1984 International Centenary pumper

HFEA member Brett Williams with the 1924 Garford

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Photo of the 1948 Randwick crew with their Garford Appliance

HFEA members recreate the 1948 photo

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Historic fire appliances on parade as part of the Randwick Fire Brigade Centenary Celebrations

Part of the large crowd that gathered to help celebrate the centenary

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OUT & ABOUT

If you have been out and about with your fire appliance, how about sharing your adventure with other HFEA members.

So if you have a story or some photos of a recent run or visit, just send an email to [email protected] and I’ll include it in the next issue of Flyer & Salvage.

LIGHTS CAMERA ACTION

Not to be content with his bit part in Fire 000, our Guy Ellis and his Iveco Ladders will soon be seen in the up coming movie “Accidents Happen”. Of course it should be noted that it is an American film and not one of those quality productions out of Pinewood studies featuring Dennis fire appliances.

None the less, Guy has reported back that all went well, with the production crew being very impressed, with the truck that is! Who knows he may end up being the next Hugh Jackman.

A snippet from the movie with Guy’s Iveco Ladders in the background

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A close up of “Fairfield City’s Ladder 22”…. A few decals and some imagination quickly transformed the old Iveco into an American appliance.

OPEN DAY 472 STATION TURVEY PARK

In June, the NSWFB held its annual open day. Many vintage fire appliances belonging to HFEA members attended their local fire station to add to the displays.

Down Wagga Wagga way, Steve Baistow was there with his 1943 Mack ME 293. The station was open to the public for the day, where they were able to participate in some practical fire fighting experience, talk to the local fire fighters about fire safety, check out the latest in fire appliances and catch a ride on the old Mack.

If you have had your appliance on display at the local fire station for the annual open day, drop me a line with some photos and I will put it in the next issue.

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Steve Baistow out with his Mack ME 293 during the Open Day at Turvey Park

RECENT APPLIANCE MOVEMENTS

Several HFEA members have recently sold, bought or swapped appliances. HFEA member Neil Baldwin recently placed his Thames Trader on the market. It was not long before it was quickly picked up by another member, our President Guy Ellis. I think at last count that makes it about 467 trucks for Guy.

Neil had had the old Thames for as long as I have known him. He was always out and about with the old appliance. He was a regular at the Maitland Steamfest and local parades. I think one of the first displays we did together was for the Telarah Fire Brigade Championships back in 1999. He had the Thames and the Ford D200 and I took along my Dennis Ace.

Another trip was out to Paterson just out of Maitland. We had been asked by the Hunter Valley Commercial Vehicle Club to come along. After some mechanical hiccups, Guy made an appearance in the Mack, Neil had brought along the Thames and I tagged along in the Ace. Tucker Park made for a great location to show case a wide variety of vintage trucks, ranging from double decker buses and fire trucks to military vehicles.And of course how can we forget the race back to my place, the little Dennis led uncontested all the way back. I must get those photos out for the next issue.

The old Thames will be sadly missed from our area; however its new home is not all that far away.

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Neil Baldwin handing over the keys of the Thames Trader to Guy Ellis

BLAST FROM THE PAST

Now I know what you all are about to say. And guess what? You are all wrong. There are actually other makes of fire appliances out there apart from Dennis. Well that’s what people have told me. I have yet to see any but apparently they do exist.

So to show that I am not completely one sided, I have added a couple of copies of adverts from the past. They are almost cartoon like in how the manufacturers advertised their products for the various markets.

In the following issues of Flyer & Salvage, I will be adding some other old adverts and other flyers that manufacturers produced. It gives a good look into the past on how things were done.

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An early advertisement for Dennis Bros indicating theircommitment to the fire brigades of Australia

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An almost comic like advertisement introducing the NEW Dennis F8

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DATES TO REMEMBER

HFEA MEETING DATES

General Meeting, 10th August 2008 Huntingwood Fire StationGeneral Meeting, 9th November 2008 venue ( CareFlight Base Westmead to be confirmed )

HFEA EVENTS (Events Officer – Shane McDonnell 0401 690081)

40th Anniversary Historic Fire Engine Association March 2009

NSWFB EVENTS

Richmond Fire Station Centenary, (exact date to be confirmed)

NSWFB FIREFIGHTER CHAMPIONSHIPS

South Region Bega 30th & 31st August 2008NSWFB State Championships Tamworth 18th to 24th October 2008

CMC EVENTS

All British Day, Sunday 17th August 2008, Kings School North Parramatta.Shannons Eastern Creek Classic, 24th August 2008, Eastern Creek Raceway.

CMC MEETINGS

Held on the last Monday of uneven numbered months at 8pm at Western Suburbs Australian Rules Football Club at 40 Hampton Road, Croydon Park.

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FOR SALEThinking of selling your fire engine?

How about giving thought to selling it to a current member of the HFEA. If you are unable to do this, suggest that the new owner becomes a member of the Association.That way we keep it an active viable association dedicated to retaining the history of a very unique industry.

Remember also to advertise it through our members first. We have over 70 members who are always keen to add to their collections

1971 Dennis D600 Jag Series 2 Fire Engine ex NSWFBComes with a lot of gear.Good condition, but could do with a repaint to make perfect.Currently unregistered, it is located at Albury NSWPrice $6000Contact Steve McLennan on 0438 406 844

1942 Mack Pumper ME143 ex NSWFB100% complete and running (only missing hub caps)Needs restoration finishing (painting and getting to roadworthy)Currently located on the Central CoastPrice $5000 firmEmail guy on [email protected] for photosContact Guy Ellis on 0414 182 010

Dennis D600 1968 Model Series 1 (Ex NSWFB ME 382)New windscreen fitted, complete new brakes in front end, Officer’s spotlight, radio, scaling ladders, aluminium ladder, all red beacons, spare tyre, hard suction hoses & suction hose spanners, brass suction strainer, strainer basket, electronic siren, rotary brass trumpet siren, driving lights, many spares including brand new radiator and too many other extras to list. Complete history available. P.O.AContact Kevin Smith on 0417 046 411

Two Dennis D600 Fire Engines ( ME375 & ME 416 )Both ex NSWFB appliancesIncludes a large amount of equipment incl ladders, lights and sirens etcOne is fully registered, the other is on historic platesPriced to sell as a single purchase or each separatelyContact Ian Wilkinson on 0417 43 7236 (BH) or 6355 2711 (AH)

Genuine ex-NSWFB cage lights, in working order $15.00 each2 with NSWFB Rescue Section tags on the lead $25.00 eachHFEA Name Plate (former Club Rego Plate) $25.00 eachContact Doug Humphreys on 0419 441 687 with proceeds to the HFEA

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Contributors

Flyer & Salvage Issue 177

Articles Aaron BischoffGuy EllisSteve Baistow

Photos Steve BaistowGuy EllisDr Barry Hutchinson

HFEA WORD FIND

D R O F D E B Z M KA E C I J A G L W CV C N K A U A C E AE N E N F T R Q L MY A W B I G F O U RP I W G A S O N O EU L O H M O R R I SM P R S F Y D G F SP P L D S E M A H TR A D B J E A C N M

JAG MORRISBEDFORD MACKDAVEY PUMP ACEAEC THAMESNEW WORLD HFEABIG FOUR APPLIANCEGARFORD DENNIS

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Flyer & Salvage is the official newsletter of the Historic Fire Engine Association Incorporated (HFEA). The HFEA solicits and actively encourages submissions to this newsletter from members and other interested parties. Since many such submissions are published, this newsletter often reflects the opinions and views of its contributors and not necessarily the opinions and views of the Association.All contributions for inclusion in Flyer & Salvage should be mailed to:

The Editor, Flyer & Salvage, 7 Berrinda Close Bolwarra Hts NSW 2320Or emailed to [email protected].

All other correspondence should be addressed to:The Secretary, HFEA, P.O. Box 520, Kingswood NSW 2747.

Flyer & Salvage is named after two of the firefighting appliances that operated from the City of Sydney Fire Station (traditionally known as Headquarters) in Castlereagh St, Sydney. During the early days of the Historic Fire Engine Association, meetings were held at Headquarters Fire Station, and were often interrupted by fire calls. Crews were called to their appliances over the public address system, and the call of “Flyer & Salvage” was the most common. The Flyer was one of three pumping appliances at Headquarters (the others being the Runner and the Second Call). It was the first appliance to leave the station on each fire call in the city area. It was crewed by an Officer and five firefighters, none of whom were allowed to leave the immediate area of the Flyer during their shift.The Salvage motor was designed and equipped to carry salvage and rescue gear not normally carried on firefighting appliances. Most Salvages have now been removed from their traditional homes at the District stations and redeployed at stations which have been allocated primary rescue responsibilities. In this new role they are known as Rescues and respond to all rescue incidents within their area.HFEA OFFICE BEARERS FOR 2008: (elected at the February Annual General Meeting).President

Guy Ellis 0414 182 010 [email protected] Presidents

Shane McDonell (02) 4736 7609 (home) [email protected] Lang 0415 497 735 (mob) [email protected]

SecretaryRay Kelly (02) 9626 8289 [email protected]

EditorAaron Bischoff 0409 773 207 (mob) [email protected]

TreasurerDoug Humphreys [email protected]

CMC DelegateBrian Blunt (02) 9663 0661 (ah) [email protected]

Events OfficersShane McDonnell (02) 4736 7609 (home) [email protected]

RegistrarsGerard Duck (02) 4578 3665 (ah) [email protected] McDonnell (02) 4736 7609 (home) [email protected]

NSWFB LiaisonRay Kelly (02) 9626 8289 0408 268289 (mob)

NSWRFS LiaisonKeith Lang 0415 497 735 (mob) [email protected]

Public OfficerGerard Duck (02) 4578 3665 (ah) [email protected]

Historic Fire Engine Association Incorporated (HFEA). ABN