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The Flat Earth Koran
12 of 13 Koran Science & Cosmology
(Part 3)
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An interpretation of the Cosmology of
the Koran & a critique of Islamic
Fundamentalism
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Classification of the types of Scientific
Miracles said to be found in the Koran
There are perhaps about
100 120 different alleged
Scientific Miracles in the
Koran, according to Islamic
Fundamentalists.
They appear to fall into the
categories in this chart.
These Presentations will
focus on the allegedrelating to Astronomy,
Cosmology & the Physical
Sciences.
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Section 3 Islam & the Earth
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Claims about the Earth and Moon
All these things and more are supposedly referred to in the Koran,
but these claims are all false, as this presentation will show.
32) Earth a rotating sphere
33) Egg shaped Earth
34) Spherical Earth
35) Earths rotation
36) 7 Atmospheric layers37) Thin air at altitude
38) Protective Atmosphere
39) More on Atmosphere
40) Atmospheric depletion41) Ozone layer
42) Mountains & stability
43) Lowest point on Earth
44) Earths Crust
45) 7 layers of Crust
46) Continental Drift47) The 2 Seas (HY)
48) The 2 Seas (MB)
49) Mid Ocean ridges
50) Darkness underwater
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Claim 32 The Koran implies thatthe Earth is Spherical & rotating
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Claim 32 Earth is Spherical & rotating
"Hast thou not seen how God
merges the night into the day
& merges the day into the night."
Surah 31:29 Bucaille
". . . He coils the night upon the
day and he coils the day upon
the night."
Surah 39:5 Bucaille& Harun Yahya
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Claim 32 Earth is
Spherical & rotating
1. According to this claim, the Koran alluded to the Earth being a
sphere and rotating 1400 years ago.
2. Such information it is aid, was not known until the C16th AD
when Magellan circumnavigated the Earth and Copernicus
proposed his Heliocentric theory.
3. The Koran is thus said to have been 900 years ahead of its
time.
4. Many Muslims claims that the existence of such information in
the Koran in the C7th AD can only be explained by accepting a
Divine origin of the Koran and the truth of Islam.
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Magellan and Copernicus
LHS: Magellan (top) & Copernicus (bottom)
Some Muslims like to claims that the Koran
foretold the Earth is a sphere in the C7th,
thus proving its Divine origin.
According to these claims, nobody knewthat the World was a sphere until 1522
when the survivors of Ferdinand Magellan's
expedition arrived back in Spain after
sailing around the World.
It is also claimed by some that nobody knewof the Earths rotation every 24 hours until
Copernicus published his Heliocentric theory
in 1543.
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Surah 31:29Checking the translation 1
Pickthall Hast thou not seen how Allah causeth the night to pass into
the day and causeth the day to pass into the night, and hath subdued
the Sun and the Moon. (to do their work)
Yusuf Ali Seest thou not that God merges night into day and he merges
day into night; that he has subjected the Sun, and the Moon. (to his law)
Hilali-Khan See you not (O Muhammad SAW) that Allah merges the
night into the day (i.e. the decrease in the hours of the night are added in
the hours of the day), and merges the day into the night (i.e. the
decrease in the hours of day are added in the hours of night), and has
subjected the Sun and the Moon.
Shakir Do you not see that Allah makes the night to enter into the day,and he makes the day to enter into the night, and He has made the Sun
and the Moon subservient. (to you)
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Surah 31:29Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali Seest thou not that Allah makes the night pass into the day
and makes the day pass into the night, and he has pressed the Sun
and the Moon into service.
Khalifa Do you not realize that God merges the night into the day
and merges the day into the night, and that he has committed theSun and the Moon in your service.
Arberry Hast thou not seen how that God makes the night to enter
into the day and makes the day to enter into the night. and he has
Palmer Dost thou not see that God joins on the night to the day,
and joins on the day to the night, and has subjected the Sun and theMoon.
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Surah 31:29Checking the translation 3
Rodwell Seest thou not that God causeth the night to come in upon
the day, and the day to come in upon the night? and that he hath
subjected the Sun and the Moon
Sale Dost thou not see that God causeth the night to succeed the
day, and causeth the day to succeed the night, and compelleth the
Sun and the Moon to serve [you]?Irving Have you not seen how God wraps night up in daylight and
wraps daylight up in night? He regulates the Sun and Moon.
Dawood Do you not see how God causes the night to pass into the
day and the day to pass into the night?He has pressed the Sun and
the Moon into his service.
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Surah 39:5Checking the translation 1
Pickthall He hath created the Heavens and the Earth with truth. He
maketh night to succeed day, and He maketh day to succeed night,
and He constraineth the Sun and the Moon to give service.
Yusuf Ali He created the Heavens and the Earth in true (proportions):
He makes the Night overlap the Day, and the Day overlap the Night:He has subjected the Sun and the Moon. (to His law)
Hilali-Khan He has created the Heavens and the Earth with truth. He
makes the night to go in the day and makes the day to go in the night.
Shakir He has created the Heavens and the Earth with the truth; He
makes the night cover the day and makes the day overtake the night,
and He has made the Sun and the Moon subservient.
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Surah 39:5Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali He created the Heavens and the Earth in accordance with therequirements of wisdom. He makes the night to cover the day, and He
makes the day to cover the night; and he has pressed the Sun and the
Moon into service.
Khalifa He created the Heavens and the Earth truthfully. He rolls the
night over the day, and rolls the day over the night. He committed the Sunand the Moon.
Rodwell For truth hath he created the Heavens and the Earth: It is of him
that the night returneth upon the day and that the day returneth upon the
night: and he controlleth the Sun and the Moon.
Sale He hath created the Heavens and the Earth with truth: He causeththe night to succeed the day, and he causeth the day to succeed the
night, and he obligeth the Sun and the Moon to perform their services.
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Surah 39:5Checking the translation 3
Rodwell For truth hath he created the Heavens and the Earth: It isof him that the night returneth upon the day and that the day
returneth upon the night: and He controlleth the Sun and the Moon.
Sale He hath created the Heavens and the Earth with truth: He
causeth the night to succeed the day, and he causeth the day to
succeed the night, and he obligeth the Sun and the Moon toperform their services.
Irving He has created Heaven and Earth for truth. He wraps night
up in daytime, and wraps daytime up in night. He regulates the Sun
and Moon.
Dawood It was to reveal the truth that he created the Heavens andthe Earth. He caused the night to succeed the day and the day to
overtake the night. He made the Sun and the Moon obedient to
him.
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Response to Claim 32 (Surah 31:29/39:5)
1. Its is not true to claim that the spherical shape of the Earth was
unknown in the C7th AD.
2. The ancient Greeks proposed that the Earth was a sphere in the
C6th BC.All educated Greeks and Romans after around 300 BC
were aware of the true shape of the Earth.Educated people in
Europe and the Middle East never lost this knowledge.
3. However, Surahs 31:29 & 39:5 do not imply that the Earth must
be a sphere.
4. All that these verses are saying that the hours of light gradually
decrease during the evening and gradually increase in the
morning.The Koran is saying that daylight does not suddenly
switch on & off like a light bulb.
5. Even on a Flat Earth with a moving Sun this would still occur.
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Discovery of the Spherical Earth
The Ancient Greek
Philosopher, Pythagoras
(570BC - 490 BC) proposed
that the Earth was a sphere
2500 years ago
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Aristotle and the Spherical Earth
The Ancient Greek
Philosopher, Aristotle
(384 BC 322 BC)
popularised the idea that
that the Earth was a sphere
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Eratosthenes and the Spherical Earth
The Philosopher, Eratosthenes
(276 BC-194 BC)
worked out a method toaccurately measure the size
of the Earth.
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Crates and the Spherical Earth
Left: Modern interpretation
of an Ancient Greek Globe.
The Philosopher,
Crates of Mallus(Second Century BC)
is said to have constructed
a Globe to show the
whole World.
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Ptolemy and the
Spherical Earth
Around AD150, the Greek Philosopher Ptolemy summarised the work
of many earlier Greek Scientists.Ptolemy imagined a spherical Earth
fixed in the centre of the Universe with the Sun and Planets moving
around it.
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Try this
Experiment
If you try this experiment
in a dark room and move
the candle around the
table, the light levels onthe tables surface will
gradually increase
and decrease just like
night & day.
The Earth does not have
to be a sphere for this
to occur.
Table representing the
Flat Earth of the Koran.
Candle representing
the Sun
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The Sun & Earth according to the Koran
Setting Place Rising Place
Flat Earth Like the surface of a table
The Sun is just a little
light moving in the Sky
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Claim 32 (Surah 31:29 / 39:5) - Conclusion
1. There is nothing remarkable about somebody in the C7th AD
knowing that the Earth was a sphere.
2. However, the Koran does not imply that the Earth is a sphere.
3. All these verses say is that daylight increases in the morning and
decreases during the night.4. This gradual change does not necessarily imply that the Earth is a
sphere.
5. Even though educated people in Mohammed's time knew that the
Earth was a Sphere, there is no evidence that the author of the
Koran knew this.6. This implies that the Koran is a human work written by a poorly
educated person such as Mohammed or his followers.
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Claim 33 The Koran says that
the Earth is Egg Shaped
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Claim 33 Egg Shaped Earth
After that He smoothed out
the Earth. (in a circle)
Surah 79:30 Harun Yahya
The Earth is not a perfect
sphere and according to
some Muslims, this is
alluded to in the Koran.
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Claim 33 Earth is Egg Shaped
1. According to this claim, the Koran alluded to the Earth not onlybeing a sphere 1400 years ago, but it also alluded to the Earth
being slightly Egg Shaped due to differing Polar and Equatorial
diameters.
3. This information was not known until centuries later it isclaimed.
5. How, we are asked could Mohammed have known this if God
had not told him?
7. Supporters of this claim say that this information in the Koran
proves its divine origin and the truth of Islam.
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Surah 79:30 Checking the translation
Pickthall And after that He spread the Earth.
Yusuf Ali And the Earth, moreover, hath He extended. (to a wide
expanse)
Hilali-Khan And after that He spread the Earth.
Shakir And the Earth, He expanded it after that.
Sher Ali And the Earth, along with it, He has spread forth.Khalifa He made the Earth egg-shaped.
Arberry And the Earth-after that He spread it out.
Palmer And the Earth after that He did stretch out.
Rodwell And afterwards stretched forth the Earth.
Sale After his he stretched out the Earth.Irving And the Earth has He spread out besides.
Dawood After that he spread the Earth.
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Surah 79:30 Egg shaped Earth?
He made the Earth eggshaped- Khalifa
Some say that this verse
describes the Earth as a sphere.
There is said to be an allusionto an ostrich egg which is
supposedly spherical.
But this is not an accurate
translation since eleven othertranslations contradict it.
Besides this,the Earth is not
egg shaped.
Non Spherical Ostrich Egg
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Surah 79:26-31 In context
Lo! herein is indeed a lesson for him who fearethAre ye the harder to create, or is the Heaven that He built?
He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He made dark
the night thereof, and He brought forth the morn thereof.
And after that He spread the Earth,
And produced therefrom the water thereof and the pasturethereof
Surah 79:26-31- Pickthall
Viewed in context, verse 30 is part of a description of God creating
the Universe.Firstly, God created Heaven or the Sky and then liftedit up like a roof of a building. Next, he spread out Earth like a
flat floor.
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Claim 33 Egg Shaped Earth
In reality, the Earth, while not
being a perfect sphere is so
close to being one that
the deviation cannot be seen.
Even if you were in Outer
Space & looking back at the
Earth, it would look like
a perfect sphere.
The Earth is nothing like the
shape of an Egg.
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Claim 33 (Surah 79:30) - Conclusion
1. The Koran does not say that the Earth is Egg shaped.Such claims
are based on an inaccurate translation.
3. Even if the Koran did say that the Earth was Egg shaped, it would
be wrong.The Earths shape is nothing like an Egg.
5. This is an example of some Muslims rewriting verse of the Koran
in order to fabricate evidence to support their Religion.
7. This claim is a fraud whatever way you look at it.
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Claim 34 The Koran implies
that the Earth is a Sphere
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He is Lord of the two East's & Lord of the
two West's.
Surah 55:17
Claim 34 Two East's and two West's
indicate a spherical Earth
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Claim 34 Two East's and two West's
1. According to this claim, the Koran alluded to the Earth being asphere 1400 years ago.
2. When we observe the Sun setting in the West, a person on theother side of the Earth will observe it rising in the East.
3. When we observe the Sun rising in the East, a person on theother side of the Earth would observe it setting in the West.
4. Thus, there are said to be two East's and two West's alluding toobservers on opposite sides of a spherical Earth.
5. This information was not known until centuries later it isclaimed.
6. How, we are asked could Mohammed have known this if Godhad not told him?
7. Supporters of this claim say that this information in the Koranproves its Divine origin and the truth of Islam.
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Surah 55:17 Checking the translation
Pickthall Lord of the two East's, and Lord of the two West's!Yusuf Ali (He is) Lord of the two East's and Lord of the two West's.
Hilali-Khan (He is) the Lord of the two East's (places of sunrise during
early summer and early winter) and the Lord of the two West's (places of
sunset during early summer and early winter).
Shakir Lord of the East and Lord of the West.Sher Ali The Lord of the two East's and the Lord of the two West's.
Khalifa Lord of the two East's and the two West's.
Arberry Lord of the two East's, Lord of the two West's.
Palmer The Lord of the two East's and the Lord of the two West's!
Rodwell He is the Lord of the East, he is the Lord of the West.
Sale [He is] the Lord of the East, and the Lord of the West.
Irving Lord of both East's and Lord of both West's!
Dawood The lord of the two Easts is he and the Lord of the two
West's.
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What the two
East's & two
West's really
mean
The 2 Easts
The 2 Wests
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Heraclius and Chosroes
Left: A Medieval
representation of the
Byzantine Emperor,
Heraclius (RHS) defeating
the Persian EmperorChroses (LHS) in a battle
during the lifetime of
Mohammed.
Both men would almostcertainly known that the
Earth was a sphere.
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Surah 55:17 The 2 East's & 2 West's
This is probably how
Mohammed envisaged
the two Easts and the
two WestsThe 2 Wests The 2 Easts
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Claim 34 (Surah 55:17) - Conclusion
1. The references to two Easts and two West's does not imply
that the Earth is spherical.
3. Even if it did, there is nothing remarkable about such knowledge,
since it was known in the time of Mohammed.
5. The author of the Koran does not seem to know that the Earth is a
sphere despite this.
7. This is just another example of desperate Islamic Fundamentalistsgrasping at straws to find evidence to support heir Religious
beliefs.
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Claim 35: The Koran refers to
the rotation of the Earth
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Claim 35 Rotation of the Earth
You will see the mountains and
reckon them to be solid; but they go
past like clouds-the handiwork ofAllah who gives to everything its
solidity. He is aware of what
you do.
Surah 27:88 Harun Yahya
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Surah 27:88 Rotation of the Earth
1. According to this claim, the Koran alludes to the Earthsrotation over 900 years before Copernicus proposed it in1543.
2. The reference to mountains passing is said to refer to
mountains on the Earths surface moving around with theEarth as it rotates.
3. How, we are asked, could Mohammed have known suchinformation unless he received it from God?
4. Thus, we are told, the Koran has been proven to be of Divine
origin and Islam is true.5. However, this is all nonsense.
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Aristarchus
of Samos
Copernicus was not the first person to propose
That the Earth rotated. Aristarchus of Samos
(310 BC ca. 230 BC) proposed this 2300
years ago but his ideas were not accepted.
However, this is not what the Koran is referring
to.
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Surah 27:88 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall And thou seest the hills thou deemest solid flying with theflight of clouds:
Yusuf Ali Thou seest the mountains and thinkest them firmly fixed:
but they shall pass away as the clouds pass away:
Hilali-Khan And you will see the mountains and think them solid, but
they shall pass away as the passing away of the clouds.Shakir And you see the mountains, you think them to be solid, and
they shall pass away as the passing away of the cloud
Sher Ali And thou seest the mountains, which thou thinkest to be
firmly fixed, pass away as the clouds pass away
Khalifa When you look at the mountains, you think that they arestanding still. But they are moving, like the clouds.
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Surah 27:88 Checking the translation 2
Arberry And thou shalt see the mountains, that thou supposest fixed,
passing by like clouds
Palmer And thou shalt see the mountains, which thou dost deem
solid, pass away like the passing of the clouds
Rodwell And thou shalt see the mountains, which thou thinkest so
firm, pass away with the passing of a cloud!Sale And thou shalt see the mountains, and shalt think them firmly
fixed; but they shall pass away, even as the clouds pass away.
Irving You will see the mountains, which you reckoned were solid,
slip away just as clouds slip away.
Dawood The mountains, firm though you might think them, will passaway like clouds.
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Surah 27:88 God causes the Mountains
to pass away on Judgment Day
This is what the passing
of mountains means.
The Koran says that the
mountains will be removedby God at the End of the
World.
This has nothing to do with
mountains actually moving
in the present day.
See also: Surah 18:47 &
Surah 84:1-4
With Mountains
Without Mountains
Level Plain = Flat Earth
S h 18 47 G d ill th M t i
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Surah 18:47 God will cause the Mountains
to pass away on Judgment Day
Pickthall And (bethink you of) the Day when we remove the hills and
ye see the Earth emerging, and We gather them together so as to
leave not one of them behind.
Yusuf Ali One Day We shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see
the Earth as a level stretch, and We shall gather them, all together, nor
shall We leave out any one of them.
Hilali-Khan And (remember) the Day We shall cause the mountains to
pass away (like clouds of dust), and you will see the Earth as a levelled
plain, and we shall gather them all together so as to leave not one of
them behind.
Shakir And the day on which We will cause the mountains to passaway and you will see the Earth a levelled plain and We will gather
them and leave not any one of them behind.
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Surah 18:47 Continued
Sher Ali And bethink of the day when we shall remove the mountainsand thou wilt see the nations of the Earth march forth against one
another and we shall gather them all together and shall not leave any
one of them behind.
Khalifa The day will come when we wipe out the mountains, and you
will see the Earth barren. We will summon them all, not leaving out asingle one of them.
Arberry And on the day We shall set the mountains in motion, and
thou seest the Earth coming forth, and We muster them so that We
leave not so much as one of them behind.
Palmer And the day when we will move the mountains, and thou
shalt see the (whole) Earth stalking forth; and we will gather them,
and will not leave one of them behind.
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Surah 18:47 Continued
Rodwell And call to mind the day when we will cause the mountains topass away, and thou shalt see the Earth a levelled plain, and we will
gather mankind together, and not leave of them any one.
Sale On a [certain] day we will cause the mountains to pass away,
and thou shalt see the Earth appearing plain [and even]; and we will
gather [mankind] together, and we will not leave any one of thembehind
Irving Some day We shall set the mountains travelling along and you
will see the Earth lying exposed
Dawood Tell of the day when we shall blot out the mountains and
make Earth a barren waste.
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Claim 35 (Surah 27:38) - Conclusion
The Ancient Greek Philosopher Aristarchus proposed that theEarth rotates in the C3rd BC, 900 years before Mohammed and1700 years before Copernicus.
However, the Koran does not refer to the Earths rotation.Thereferences to the mountains passing refers to them passing
away (being removed) and not passing by. This verse refers to God removing the Earths Mountains at the
End of the World sometime in the future and not in the presentday.
Interpreting this verse as a supposed reference to the Earthsrotation is based on taking it out of context and distorting themeaning.
This is another example of distorting the Koran to support extremeReligious beliefs.
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Claim 36 The Koran correctly says
that there are seven layers in theEarths atmosphere
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Claim 36 Seven Layers
of the Atmosphere
According to this claim, the Koran referred to
the existence of seven layers in the Earths
atmosphere 1400 years ago when it speaks of
Seven Heavens
These layers were only discovered in the C20th.
How, we are asked, could Mohammed have
known this 1400 years before modern science,
unless God had told him?
According to this claim, such scientificfore-knowledge proves the Divine authorship
of the Koran.
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Claim 36 Seven Layers of the
Atmosphere
It is He Who created everything on the Earth for you and then directedHis attention up to Heaven and arranged it into seven regular Heavens.
He has knowledge of all things. Surah 2:29 Harun Yahya
Then He turned to Heaven when it was smoke. In two days He
determined them as seven heavens and revealed, in every heaven, itsown mandate. Surah 41:11-12 Harun Yahya
He Who created the seven Heavens in layers
Surah 67:3 Harun Yahya
Do you not see how He created seven Heavens in layers?
Surah 71:15 Harun Yahya
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Response to Claim 36 (Multiple Surahs)
1. The Seven Heavens of the Koran cannot possibly be areference to the layers of the atmosphere since this would
contradict Surah 37:6 which says that the Stars are in the lowest
of the Seven Heavens & only a few miles away. This is nonsense.
3. According to the Koran and Hadith, the Seven Heavens arewhere God and his Angels live.Good Muslims go there when they
die.
5. The Sky above our heads is the floor of the lowest level of the
Seven Heavens.
7. Each Heaven is associated with a particular Prophet and God is
above the Seventh or highest Heaven.
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Surah 37:6 Stars in Lowest Heaven
According to theKoran, the Stars
are just little
lights attached to
lowest Heaven.
If the Seven
Heavens refer to
the Atmosphere,
then the Stars are
only a few milesaway. This is
absurd.
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Surah 37:6 Stars in Lowest Heaven
Pickthall Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,the planets.
Yusuf Ali We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the
stars.
Hilali-Khan Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for
beauty).Shakir Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,
the stars.
Sher Ali We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the
Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.
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Surah 37:6 Continued
Arberry We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of theStars.
Palmer Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment
of the Stars.
Rodwell We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the
Stars.Sale We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the
Stars.
Irving We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .
Dawood We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.
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Surah 17:1
Mohammed in the
Seven Heavens
1
7
6
5
4
3
2
This traditional Islamic
painting shows Mohammed
visiting the seven Heavenswhich are up in the Sky
These are portrayed as seven
solid layers in the Sky where
good Muslims go when they
die.The Hadith and Koransupport this view of seven
Heavens
Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens
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Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens
Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429
Al-Buraq, a white animal, smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was
brought to me and I set out with Gabriel. When I reached the nearest heaven.
Gabriel said to the heaven gate-keeper, 'Open the gate.' The gatekeeper asked,
'Who is it?' He said, 'Gabriel.' The gate-keeper,' Who is accompanying you?'
Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' The gate-keeper said, 'Has he been called?' Gabriel
said, 'Yes.' Then it was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit his is!' Then I
met Adam and greeted him and he said, 'You are welcomed O son and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the second heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said,
'Gabriel.' It was said, 'Who is with you?' He said, 'Muhammad' It was asked, 'Has
he been sent for?' He said, 'Yes.' It was said, 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful
visit his is!" Then I met Jesus and Yahya (John) who said, 'You are welcomed, O
brother and a Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the third heaven. It was asked, 'Who is it?' Gabriel said,'Gabriel.' It was asked, 'Who is with you? Gabriel said, 'Muhammad.' It was asked,
'Has he been sent for?' 'Yes,' said Gabriel. 'He is welcomed. What a wonderful visit
his is!' (The Prophet added:). There I met Joseph and greeted him, and he replied,
'You are welcomed, O brother and a Prophet!' (Continued on next slide)
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Mohammed ascends to the 7 Heavens
Al-Bukhari Volume 4 Book 54 Number 429 (Continued from previous slide)
Then we ascended to the 4th heaven and again the same questions andanswers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met Idris and
greeted him. He said, 'You are welcomed O brother and Prophet.'
Then we ascended to the 5th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in previous heavens. there I met and greeted
Aaron who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and a Prophet".
Then we ascended to the 6th heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted
Moses who said, 'You are welcomed O brother and. a Prophet.' When I
proceeded on, he started weeping and on being asked why he was weeping, he
said, 'O Lord! Followers of this youth who was sent after me will enter Paradise
in greater number than my followers.'
Then we ascended to the seventh heaven and again the same questions and
answers were exchanged as in the previous heavens. There I met and greeted
Abraham who said, 'You are welcomed o son and a Prophet.' Then I was shown
Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur (i.e. Allah's House).
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Seven Heavens above the Earth
Al-Tirmidhi 5735
He then asked, "Do you know what is above you?" On their replying that
Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said, "It is the
firmament, a ceiling which is guarded and waves which are kept back." He
then asked, "Do you know what is between you and it?" On their replying
that Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said,
"Between you and it are five hundred years." He then asked, "Do you knewwhat is above that?" On their replying that Allah and His Messenger (peace
be upon him) best he said, "Two heavens with a distance of five hundred
years between them." He went on speaking like that till he counted seven
heavens, the distance between each pair being like between Heaven and
Earth. He then asked, "Do you know what is above that?" On their replyingthat Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) knew best, he said,
"Above that is the Throne, and the distance between it and the (seventh)
heaven is the same as that between each pair of heavens."
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Names of the
Seven Heavens
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7
6
5
4
3
2
Number Name Description
1st Heaven Rafi' ( ( Heaven of Adam2nd Heaven Qaydum ( ( Heaven of John
3rd Heaven Marum () Heaven of Joseph4th Heaven Arfalun () Heaven of Idris
5th Heaven Hay'oun () Heaven of Aaron
6th Heaven Arous () Heaven of Moses
7th Heaven Ajma' () Heaven of Abraham
The Seven Heavens of Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens
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Claim 36 (Multiple Surahs) - Conclusion
1. The Seven Heavens cannot be layers of the atmosphere since thiscontradicts, the Koran,Hadith and modern Science.
3. The Seven Heavens are mythical places in the Sky where dead
people are supposed to be, along with God and his Angels.
5. Instead of being in accord with modern Science, the concept of
Seven Heavens shows the Koran to be in error and a book of
Human origin.
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Claim 37 The Koran correctly
mentions how the air gets thinner withaltitude
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Claim 37 Thin air higher up
...And whomever he wills
to send astray, he makes
his bosom narrow &
strained as if he was
ascending into the sky.
Surah 6:125
According to this claim, the
Koran miraculously predicted
that the air gets thinner
with height 1000 yearsahead of modern Science.
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Evangelista Torricelli
The fact that the air gets thinner with
increasing altitude was not discovered
until AD1643 when Evangelista
Torricelli invented the Barometer.
Some Muslims claim that the Koran
referred to this phenomena over
1000 years before Torricelli.
This is claimed to be evidence of the
Divine origin of the Koran and the
truth of Islam.
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Response to Claim 37 (Surah 6:125)
1. If the Koran is aware of the air getting thinner with altitude, whydidn't Mohammed wear a Space Suit when he went up into the
atmosphere and travelled through Outer Space?
3. Mohammed literally ascended to Heaven.It was not a dream
according to the Hadith. (Al-Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number228)
5. How are Angels able to use their wings to fly around between
Earth and Heaven if the air is so thin?
7. How come that Muslim Scientists, rather than Torricelli invent the
Barometer?
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Surah 17:1
Mohammed
ascends to Heaven
The Koran says that Mohammed
ascended into Heaven on the
back of a magical animal calledBuraq.
However, Surah 37:6 says that
the lowest level of Heaven
contains the Stars & soMohammed supposedly travelled
interstellar Space without any
mention of a spacesuit.
Surah17:1Mohammed ascends to Heaven
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Surah17:1Mohammed ascends to Heaven
Pickthall Glorified be He Who carried His servant by night from the
Inviolable Place of Worship to the Far distant place of worship that We
might show him of Our tokens!Yusuf Ali Glory to (God) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night
from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque in order that We might
show him some of Our Signs.
Hilali-Khan Glorified (and Exalted) be He (Allah) [above all that (evil) they
associate with Him] [Tafsir Qurtubi, Vol. 10, Page 204]Shakir Glory be to Him Who made His servant to go on a night from the
Sacred Mosque to the remote mosque so that We may show to him
some of Our signs.
Sher Ali Glory be to Him who carried his servant by night from the Sacred
Mosque to the Distant Mosque that we might show him some of oursigns.
Khalifa Most glorified is the One who summoned His servant (Muhammad)
during the night, from the Sacred Masjid (of Mecca) to the farthest place of
prostration in order to show him some of our signs.
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Surah 17:1Continued
Arberry Glory be to Him, who carried His servant by night from the Holy
Mosque to the Further Mosque that We might show him some of Our
signs.Arberry Celebrated be the praises of Him who took His servant a journey
by night from the Sacred Mosque, to the Remote Mosque to show him of
our signs!
Rodwell Glory be to Him who carried his servant by night from the sacred
temple of Mecca to the temple that is more remote that we might shewhim of our signs!
Sale Praise be unto him, who transported his servant by night, from the
sacred temple [of Mecca] to the farther temple that we might shew him
[some] of our signs.
Irving Glory be to Him Who had His servant travel by night from the
hallowed Mosque to the Further Mosque so we might show him some of
our signs!
Dawood Glory be to him who made his servant go by night from the
sacred temple to the further temple that we might show him some of our
signs.
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Mohammed literally ascends to
Heaven from Jerusalem (Al-Bukhari )
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
Regarding the Statement of Allah"
"And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens) which Wemade you see (as an actual eye witness) was only made as a trial for
the people." (17.60)
Ibn Abbas added: The sights which Allah's Apostle was shown on the
Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ulMaqdis (i.e. Jerusalem)
were actual sights, (not dreams). And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in
the Quran is the tree of Zaqqum (itself).
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Surah 37:6 Stars in Lowest Heaven
Pickthall Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,the planets.
Yusuf Ali We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the
stars.
Hilali-Khan Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for
beauty).Shakir Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,
the stars.
Sher Ali We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the
Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.
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Surah 37:6 Continued
Arberry We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of theStars.
Palmer Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment
of the Stars.
Rodwell We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the
Stars.Sale We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the
Stars.
Irving We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .
Dawood We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.
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Mohammed did not wear a Space Suit
Surah 37:6 says that the
Stars are in the lowest
Heaven Outer Space.
This means that
Mohammed supposedlytravelled through Outer
Space to get to Heaven
without any Space Suit.
This is hardly consistentwith knowing that the
atmosphere gets thinner
with altitude.
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Surah 6:125 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall And whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, he expandeth hisbosom unto the surrender, and whomsoever it is his will to send astray,
he maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer
ascent.
Yusuf Ali Those whom God (in his plan) willeth to guide, - he openeth
their breast to Islam; those whom he willeth to leave straying, - he makeththeir breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies.
Hilali-Khan And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, he opens his breast to
Islam, and whomsoever he wills to send astray, he makes his breast
closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.
Shakir Therefore (for) whomsoever Allah intends that he would guide
him aright, he expands his breast for Islam, and (for) whomsoever he
intends that he should cause him to err, he makes his breast strait and
narrow as though he were ascending upwards.
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Surah 6:125 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali So, whomsoever Allah intends to guide, he expands his bosom
for the acceptance of Islam; and whomsoever he intends that he should
go astray, he makes his bosom narrow and close, as though he was
mounting up into the skies.
Khalifa Whomever God wills to guide, he renders his chest wide open to
Submission. And whomever he wills to send astray, he renders his chestintolerant and straitened, like one who climbs towards the sky.
Arberry Whomsoever God desires to guide, he expands his breast to
Islam; whomsoever he desires to lead astray, he makes his breast
narrow, tight, as if he were climbing to Heaven.
Palmer Whomsoever God wishes to guide, he expands his breast toIslam; but whomsoever he wishes to lead astray, he makes his breast
tight and straight, as though he would mount up into Heaven.
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Surah 6:125 Checking the translation 3
Rodwell And whom God shall please to guide, that man's breast willhe open to Islam; but whom he shall please to mislead, strait and
narrow will he make his breast, as though he were mounting up into
the very Heavens!
Sale And whomsoever God shall please to direct, he will open his
breast to [receive the faith of] Islam: But whomsoever he shall pleaseto lead into error, he will render his breast strait [and] narrow, as
though he were climbing up to Heaven.
Irving God lays anyone's breast open to Islam whom He wants to
guide, while He makes the breast of anyone He wants to be led astray
seem cramped, tight, just as if he were climbing up to HeavenDawood If God intends to guide a man, he opens his bosom to Islam.
But if he pleases to confound him, he makes his bosom small and
narrow as though he were climbing up to the Sky.
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Claim 37 (Surah 6:125) - Conclusion
1. The story of Mohammed ascending to Heaven implies that the
Koran does not know that the air gets thinner with altitude.
3. The reference to somebody's chest getting tighter as he climbsupwards is more likely a reference to being out of breath due to thephysical effort of climbing upwards irrespective of what the
thickness of the air is.There is no reference to high altitude here.
5. The reference may also be speaking of the despair in a personsheart when they contemplate trying to get to Heaven without God byclimbing up into the Sky.
7. Either way, there is no indication in the Koran that the air getsthinner with altitude.
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Claim 38 The Koran refers to the
Atmosphere protecting us fromMeteors & the Solar Wind
Claim 38 Atmosphere protects against
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Claim 38 Atmosphere protects against
Meteors & Solar wind
According to Harun Yahya &
others the Koran alludes tohow the Earths Atmosphere
protects us against meteors &
the Solar Wind.
Claim 38 Atmosphere protects Earth
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Claim 38 Atmosphere protects Earth
from Meteors & Solar wind
We made the sky a preserved & protected roof yet still they turn
away from Our signs.
Surah 21:32 Harun Yahya
It is He Who made the Earth a couch for you, and the sky a dome. Hesends down water from the sky and by it brings forth fruits for your
provision. Do not, then, knowingly make others equal to Allah.
Surah 2:22 Harun Yahya
He holds back the Heaven, preventing it from falling to the Earth-except by His permission. Allah is All-Compassionate to humanity, Most
Merciful.
(Qur'an, 22:65)
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Claim 38 Atmosphere protects Earth
from Meteors & Solar wind
1. This claim says that the Koran miraculously referred to the
way the Earths Atmosphere protects us from Meteors and the
Solar Wind.
2. The possibility of Meteors falling to Earth & the existence of
the Solar Wind were not proposed by Scientists until the
middle of the C19th.
3. How, we are asked, could Mohammed have known about
these things in the C7th AD?
4. The only answer, we are told, is that the Koran knows of such
things because it comes from God.
5. This, we are told (again), proves the truth of Islam.
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Surah 21:32Checking the translation 1
Pickthall And we have made the Sky a roof withheld (from them).Yet they turn away from its portents.
Yusuf Ali And we have made the Heavens as a canopy well
guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things
(point to)!
Hilali-Khan And we have made the Heaven a roof, safe and wellguarded. Yet they turn away from its signs. (i.e. sun, moon, winds,
clouds, etc.)
Shakir And we have made the Heaven a guarded canopy and (yet)
they turn aside from its signs.
Sher Ali And we have made the Heaven a roof, well-protected, yetthey turn away from its Signs.
Khalifa And we rendered the Sky a guarded ceiling. Yet, they are
totally oblivious to all the portents therein.
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Surah 21:32Checking the translation 2
Arberry And we set up the Heaven as a roof well-protected; yet stillfrom Our signs they are turning away.
Palmer And we made the Heaven a guarded roof; yet from our signs
they turn aside!
Rodwell And we made the Heaven a roof strongly upholden; yet turn
they away from its signs.Sale And we made the Heaven a roof well supported. Yet they turn
aside from the signs thereof, [not considering that they are the
workmanship of [God].
Irving We have placed the Sky as a roof which is held up even
though they shun its signs!Dawood We spread the Heaven like a Canopy and provided it with
strong supports : yet of its signs they are heedless!
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Surah 2:22 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall Who hath appointed the Earth a resting-place for you, andthe Sky a canopy; and causeth water to pour down from the Sky.
Yusuf Ali Who has made the Earth your couch, and the Heavens
your canopy; and sent down rain from the Heavens.
Hilali-Khan Who has made the Earth a resting place for you, and the
Sky as a canopy, and sent down water (rain) from the Sky.Shakir Who made the Earth a resting place for you and the Heaven
a canopy and (who) sends down rain from the cloud.
Sher Ali Who made the Earth a bed for you, and the Heaven a roof,
and caused water to come down from the clouds.
Khalifa The one who made the Earth habitable for you, and the Skya structure. He sends down from the Sky water.
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Surah 2:22 Checking the translation 2
Arberry Who assigned to you the Earth for a couch, and Heaven foran edifice, and sent down out of Heaven water.
Palmer Who made the Earth for you a bed and the Heaven a dome;
and sent down from Heaven water.
Rodwell Who hath made the Earth a bed for you, and the Heaven a
covering, and hath caused water to come down from Heaven.Sale Who hath spread the Earth as a bed for you, and the Heaven
as a covering, and hath caused water to descend from Heaven.
Irving [He is] the one who has made the Earth a carpet for you and
had the Sky built above you, and sent water to pour down from the
Sky.Dawood Who has made the Earth a bed for you and the Sky a dome
and has sent down water from the Sky.
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Surah 22:65 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall And he holdeth back the Heaven from falling on the Earth
unless by his leave. Lo! Allah is, for mankind, full of pity, merciful.
Yusuf Ali He withholds the sky (rain) from falling on the earth except by
his leave: for God is most kind and most merciful to man.
Hilali-Khan He withholds the Heaven from falling on the Earth except by
his Leave. Verily, Allah is, for mankind, full of kindness, most merciful.
Shakir And he withholds the Heaven from falling on the Earth exceptwith his permission; most surely Allah is compassionate, merciful to
men.
Sher Ali And he holds back the Heaven lest it should fall on the Earth
save by his leave. Surely, Allah is compassionate and merciful to
people.Khalifa He prevents the Heavenly bodies from crashing onto the Earth,
except in accordance with his command. God is most kind towards the
people, most merciful.
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Imam Ali battles
the Evil Djinn
Ali was the Son in law
& Cousin of Mohammed.
He is highly revered by
Shia Muslims.
According to the Koran, one
of the main purposes of
the Stars is for use as
ammunition by Angels.
when Djinn try and climb upto Heaven, the Angels
throw Stars at them.
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Stars are little lights on the floor of
Heaven according to the Koran
The Koran impliesthat Heaven is a
place up in the Sky
above the Stars
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driving off Devils from Heaven
Pickthall & verily We have beautified the world's Heaven with lamps, & Wehave made them missiles for the devils.
Yusuf Ali & we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest Heaven with Lamps,
& We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones.
Hilali-Khan & indeed We have adorned the nearest Heaven with lamps, &
We have made such lamps (as) missiles to drive away the Shayatin. (devils)Shakir & certainly We have adorned this lower Heaven with lamps & We
have made these missiles for the Shaitans.
Sher Ali & verily, We have adorned the lowest Heaven with lamps, and We
have made them the means of driving away satans.
Khalifa We adorned the lowest Universe with lamps, and guarded its
borders with projectiles against the devils.
More biased translation by Khalifa.He is out of step with the other11
translations.He has inaccurately translated Heaven as Universe.
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Surah 67:5 Continued
Arberry And We adorned the lower Heaven with lamps, and made themthings to stone Satans.
Palmer And we have adorned the lower Heaven with lamps; and set
them to pelt the devils with.
Rodwell Moreover we have decked the lowest Heaven with lights, and
have placed them there to be hurled at the Satan.Sale Moreover we have adorned the lowest Heaven with lamps, and
have appointed them to be darted at the devils.
Irving We have decorated the nearest Sky with lamps. We have placed
them as missiles directed towards the devils.
Dawood We have adorned the lowest Heaven with lamps, missiles topelt the devils with.
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Surah 72:8 10 Meteors thrown at Djinn
Pickthall And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur'an said): We had sought the
Heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors But he wholisteneth now findeth a flame in wait for him.
Yusuf Ali 'And we pried into the secrets of Heaven; but we found it filled with
stern guards and flaming fires but any who listen now will find a flaming fire
watching him in ambush.
Hilali-Khan 'And we have sought to reach the Heaven; but found it filled with
stern guards and flaming fires but any who listens now will find a flaming firewatching him in ambush.
Shakir And that we sought to reach Heaven, but we found it filled with strong
guards and flaming stars but he who would (try to) listen now would find a
flame lying in wait for him.
Sher Ali `And we sought to reach Heaven, but we found it filled with strong
guards and shooting stars But whoso listens now finds a shooting star inambush for him.
Khalifa `We touched the Heaven and found it filled with formidable guards and
projectiles Anyone who listens is pursued by a powerful projectile.
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Surah 72:8 10 Continued
Arberry And we stretched towards Heaven, but we found it filled with terrible
guards and meteors but any listening now finds a meteor in wait for him.Palmer "'But we touched the Heavens and found them filled with a mighty guard
and shooting-stars but whoso of us listens now finds a shooting-star for him
Rodwell And the Heavens did we essay, but found them filled with a mighty
garrison, and with flaming darts but whoever listeneth findeth an ambush
ready for him of flaming darts.
Sale And we [formerly] attempted [to pry into what was transacting in] Heaven;but we found the same filled with a strong guard [of angels], and with flaming
darts but whoever listeneth now, findeth a flame laid in ambush for him, [to
guard the celestial confines].
Irving We reached out for Heaven and found it staffed with stern guards and
shooting stars though anyone who eavesdrops now finds a shooting star
lurking there for him.Dawood We made our way to the high Heaven and found it filled with mighty
wardens and fiery comets . but eavesdroppers find comets lying in wait for
them.
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Angels guarding
Heaven against
the Evil Djinn
Angels guard Heaven against
the Evil Djinn who try to climbup to it.
The Koran says that Meteors
are Stars that Angels use
as missiles to throw atthe Djinn.
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The Sky is described as a Barrier to
control the Djinn
Many verses of
the Koran
describe the Sky
as being barrier
to prevent the
Djinn or Genies
from climbing
up to Heaven.
This suggests
a belief in a solidSky.
Barrier of the Sky
Keeping the Djinn out of Heaven
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According to the Koran, one of the functions of the Sky is to act as
a barrier to keep the Djinn from climbing up to Heaven. This implies
that the Sky is solid.
DjinnDjinn
Djinn
Heaven
Earth
Solid Barrier
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Surah 37:6 Stars attached to firmament
According to the
Koran, the Stars
are just little
lights attached to
the solid Sky.
Surah 81:1-2 says
that the Stars
will eventually fall
to the ground.
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Surah 37:6 Stars embedded in Firmament
Pickthall Lo! We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an ornament,the planets.
Yusuf Ali We have indeed decked the lower Heaven with beauty (in) the
stars.
Hilali-Khan Verily! We have adorned the near Heaven with the stars (for
beauty).Shakir Surely We have adorned the nearest Heaven with an adornment,
the stars.
Sher Ali We have adorned the lowest Heaven with an adornment - the
Khalifa We have adorned the lowest Heaven with adorning planets.
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Arberry We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of theStars.
Palmer Verily, we have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment
of the Stars.
Rodwell We have adorned the lower Heaven with the adornment of the
Stars.
Sale We have adorned the lower Heaven with the ornament of the
Stars.
Irving We have beautified the worldly Sky with the splendour of Stars .
Dawood We have decked the lower Heaven with Constellations.
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Surah 22:65 The Sky might fall 1
The Koran refers to the
possibility of the Sky falling.
This implies a belief in a
solid Sky or Firmament.
Such a belief is similar toof the story of Chicken
Little.
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Surah 22:65 The Sky might fall 2
Left: Chicken
Little after being
struck by a piece
of the Sky that
has fallen down.
The Koran
implies that the
Sky is solid & that
this is a very
real possibility.
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1. The Koran does not understand what Meteors are and does notrefer to the Solar wind.
2. The Koran says that the Sky is a solid Dome and that the Stars
are little lights imbedded in it.
3. These Stars are used as missiles by Angels who throw them at
the Djinn who try and climb up to Heaven.4. The reference to bits of Heaven falling refer to the possibility of a
piece of the solid Sky Dome falling to Earth.
5. All of this is totally contrary to modern Science and is the sort of
thing that a man like Mohammed may have imagined.
6. These verses contain huge Scientific errors and prove that theKoran does not come from God.
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Claim 39 Atmosphere characteristics
Claim 39 The
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Returning Sky
[I swear] by heaven which
returns.
Surah 86:11 Harun Yahya
This is said to be a reference to
three features of the Earths
atmosphere.
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Claim 39 The Returning Sky
1. According to this claim, the Koran referred to certain specialcharacteristics of the Atmosphere 1400 years ago.
2. These are the Troposphere facilitating condensation, the
Ozonosphere blocking Cosmic Rays and the Ionosphere
reflecting Radio Waves.
3. These phenomena were only discovered in the C20th, but the
Koran is said to refer to them 1400 years ago.
4. Mohammed could not possibly have known these things
unless God had told him.
5. Some Muslims claim that such Scientific foreknowledge
proves the Divine Authorship of the Koran
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Surah 86:11Checking the translation
Pickthall By the Heaven which giveth the returning rainYusuf Ali By the Firmament which returns (in its round)
Hilali-Khan By the Sky (having rain clouds) which gives rain, again
and again.
Shakir I swear by the rain-giving Heavens
Sher Ali By the cloud which gives rain repeatedly.Khalifa By the Sky that returns (the water).
Arberry By Heaven of the returning rain.
Palmer By the Heaven that sends back the rain!
Rodwell I swear by the Heaven which accomplisheth its cycle.
Sale By the Heaven which returneth [the rain]
Irving By the sky with its cycle.
Dawood By the Heaven with its recurring cycles.
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The Returning Sky
This is what the Returning
Sky really means.
Rainfall in the Arabianpeninsula is seasonal.
Summer and Autumn are
very dry and then in the
Winter, the rain returns.
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1. This verse says nothing about the special properties ofvarious layers of the Earths atmosphere.
2. Such an interpretation involves reading things into the words
that are not there.
3. The Returning Sky is merely a reference to seasonal
rainfall which occurs in winter and spring in the Arabianpeninsula.
4. There is nothing remarkable about this verse which is merely
referring to the weather.
5. Islamic Fundamentalists have distorted the meaning of this
verse in a desperate attempt to prove their extreme Religiousbeliefs.
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Claim 40 Atmospheric depletion
Claim 40 Atmospheric Depletion by
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Solar Wind
Don't they see how
We come to the land
eroding it from itsextremities?
Surah 21:44
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Solar Wind
1. This verse is said to allude to the Earths Atmosphere being slowlystripped away by the Solar Wind.
3. This discovery was only made in the C20th.
5. Some Muslims will then say that Mohammed could not have known
about this 1400 years ago.
7. Then they will claim that such advanced Scientific knowledge in a
1400 year old book can only be due to Divine Revelation.
9. Therefore, it is argued, Islam must logically be true.
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Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 1
Pickthall Nay, but We gave these and their fathers ease until lifegrew long for them. See they not how we aim to the land, reducing it
of its outlying parts? Can they then be the victors?
Yusuf Ali Nay, We gave the good things of this life to these men and
their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We
gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders?Is it then they who will win?
Hilali-Khan Nay, We gave the luxuries of this life to these men and
their fathers until the period grew long for them. See they not that We
gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders?
Is it then they who will overcome.
Shakir Nay, We gave provision to these and their fathers until life
was prolonged to them. Do they not then see that We are visiting the
land, curtailing it of its sides? Shall they then prevail?
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Surah 21:44 Checking the translation 2
Sher Ali Nay, we provided those and their fathers with the goodthings of this world till life grew long for them. Do they not see that we
are visiting the land, reducing it from its outlying borders? Can they
even then be the victors?
Khalifa We have provided for these people and their ancestors, up
until an old age. Do they not see that every day on earth brings themcloser to the end? Can they reverse this process?
Arberry Nay, but Ourselves gave these and their fathers enjoyment
of days, until their life had lasted long while upon them. What, do they
not see how We come to the land, diminishing it in its extremities? Or
are they the victors?
Palmer Nay, but we have granted enjoyment to these men and to
their fathers whilst life was prolonged. Do they not see that we come
to the land and shorten its borders? Shall they then prevail?
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Rodwell Yes! we have given these men and their fathers enjoymentsso long as their life lasted. What! see they not that we come to a land
and straiten its borders Is it they who are the conquerors?
Sale But we have permitted these [men] and their fathers to enjoy
[worldly prosperity], so long as life was continued unto them. Do they
not perceive that we come unto the land [of the unbelievers, and]straiten the borders thereof? Shall they therefore be the
conquerors?
Irving Rather We have let such persons and their forefathers enjoy
themselves until life seems to last too long for them. Do they not see
how We come to the earth to clip it off along its borders? Will they
turn out to be the winners?
Dawood Yet have we indulged them and their fathers so that they
have lived too long.Can they not see how we invade their land and
diminish its borders? Is it they who will triumph?
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Claim 40 Response
1. If you look at the verse in context, you will see that it is addressed toa group of people who have displeased God despite his past
generosity to them.
3. This Surah is thought to date from Mohammed's time in Medina and
so it is likely a criticism of his enemies in Mecca, the Quraysh tribe.
5. The reference to diminishing land most likely refers to the forces of
Mohammed gradually encroaching of the territory of the Quraysh as
they gradually close in on Mecca in the years leading up to its
conquest in AD630.
Mohammed flees Mecca (The Hijra)
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In AD 622
Mohammed
was forced
to flee from
Mecca by
his enemies& he sought
refuge in the
City of
Medina.
This is the starting point for the Islamic Calendar.
Mohammed preaching to followers in
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Medina
Left: While in Medina, Mohammed
gained a lot of followers & became the
leader of the City.
War soon erupted between Medina &the Quraysh who controlled Mecca.
Surah 21:44 refers to how
Mohammed's forces in Medina
gradually gained the upper hand
& conquered the outlying regions
of Quraysh territory
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In 630 AD
Mohammedconquered
the Quraysh
and entered
Mecca
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1. This verse says nothing about the Solar Wind or the Earthsatmosphere.
3. The reference to land eroding refers to the way in which
Mohammed's enemies in Mecca, the Quraysh gradually lost
control of the outer parts of their territory to the Muslims ofMedina before their final defeat by Mohammed when he
conquered Mecca in AD630.
5. Interpreting this verse as an allusion to atmospheric
depletion takes it totally out of context and it is\completenonsense.
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Claim 41 Ozone layer depletion
Claim 41 Ozone Layer depletion
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Claim 41 Ozone Layer depletion
Until, when he came to the
rising of the sun, he found
it rising on a people for
whom we had provided no
covering protection against
the sun.
Surah 18:90
This reference to people not
being protected is said torefer to the Ozone hole.
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1. This claim is really an alleged prophecy concerning a
Scientific matter.
3. Some Muslims claim that the Koran referred to the hole in the
Ozone layer 1400 years ago.
5. Believers in this claim say that Mohammed could not have
predicted such things unless God told him about them via
Divine Revelation.
7. Supporters of this claim argue that such information in theKoran proves its Divine origin and the truth of their Religion.
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Pickthall Then he followed a road till, when he reached the rising-
place of the Sun
Yusuf Ali Then followed he (another) way, until, when he came to
the rising of the Sun
Hilali-Khan Then he followed another way until, when he came to
the rising place of the Sun Shakir Then he followed (another) course until when he reached the
land of the rising of the Sun
Sher Ali Then indeed he followed another way. until he reached the
rising-place of the Sun
Khalifa Th