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First Draft Meeting of the Correlating Committee on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment December 13 th , 2016 Adobe Connect/Teleconference Agenda Introduction: Bill Haskell, Chair – 11:00 a.m. Introductions by Members and Guests Chairman’s Remarks – Bill Haskell NFPA Staff Liaison Report – Chris Farrell Approval of Minutes from the previous meeting (will be available shortly) Task Group Updates (as appropriate) Definitions Task Group – Karen Lehtonen Labeling Task Group – Karen Lehtonen Firefighter Hazard Environment Task Group – Dan Rossos Hood Safety Alert Task Group – Bruce Varner Eye and Face Protection Task Group – Robert Tutterow ISO Update – Dave Matthews Chapter 5 User Information Format – Steve Corrado NFPA 1852, 1989 First Draft Review Technical Committee Chair Reports o TC on ELS: R. Athanas o TC on EMS: T. Hock o TC on HAZ: C. Baxter o TC on RPE: D. Rossos o TC on SCE: J. Metz o TC on SPF: S. King o TC on TTO: B. Montgomery o TC on WFF: R Swan Old Business New Business Next Correlating Committee Meeting, dates and location Adjourn

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First Draft Meeting of the Correlating Committee on Fire and Emergency Services

Protective Clothing and Equipment December 13th, 2016

Adobe Connect/Teleconference Agenda

Introduction: Bill Haskell, Chair – 11:00 a.m.

Introductions by Members and Guests

Chairman’s Remarks – Bill Haskell

NFPA Staff Liaison Report – Chris Farrell

Approval of Minutes from the previous meeting (will be available shortly)

Task Group Updates (as appropriate)

Definitions Task Group – Karen Lehtonen

Labeling Task Group – Karen Lehtonen

Firefighter Hazard Environment Task Group – Dan Rossos

Hood Safety Alert Task Group – Bruce Varner

Eye and Face Protection Task Group – Robert Tutterow

ISO Update – Dave Matthews

Chapter 5 User Information Format – Steve Corrado

NFPA 1852, 1989 First Draft Review

Technical Committee Chair Reports

o TC on ELS: R. Athanas

o TC on EMS: T. Hock

o TC on HAZ: C. Baxter

o TC on RPE: D. Rossos

o TC on SCE: J. Metz

o TC on SPF: S. King

o TC on TTO: B. Montgomery

o TC on WFF: R Swan

Old Business

New Business

Next Correlating Committee Meeting, dates and location

Adjourn

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National Fire Protection Association

1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

TO: Technical Committee on Respiratory Protection Equipment

FROM: Yvonne Smith, Project Administrator

DATE: October 31, 2016

SUBJECT: NFPA 1852 First Draft Technical Committee FINAL Ballot Results (F2017)

According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass

ballot.

34 Members Eligible to Vote

4 Members Not Returned (Colton, Dickson, Kaller, Radtke)

30 Members Voted Affirmative on All Revisions (w/comment: Anaya, Morgan)

0 Members Voted Negative on one or more Revisions

0 Members Abstained on one or more Revisions

The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the

explanation of the vote for each revision.

To pass ballot, each revision requires: (1) a simple majority of those eligible to vote and (2) an

affirmative vote of 2/3 of ballots returned. See Sections 3.3.4.3.(c) and 4.3.10.1 of the Regulations

Governing the Development of NFPA Standards.

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First Revision No. 9-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.3 ]

1.3.1.3

This standard shall apply to the organization's existing open-circuit SCBA, other than as constrained by1.3.1.6 and 1.3.1.7 , that are covered in the care and maintenance part of the respiratory protectionprogram for open-circuit SCBA, and the standard shall also apply to the selection process to acquire newopen-circuit SCBA to augment or replace existing SCBA.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:30:15 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The references were deleted because these paragraphs no longer exist in the standard.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 7-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.4 ]

1.3.1.4

This standard shall apply to open-circuit SCBA that were certified by an independent third-partycertification organization as compliant with the 1992 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , and the 1997 edition of NFPA 1981, Standardon Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service .

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:22:45 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

This paragraph has been deleted because the referenced editions are no longerapplicable.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 8-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.5 ]

1.3.1.4

This standard shall apply to open-circuit SCBA that were certified by an independent third-partycertification organization as compliant with the 2002 edition or 2007 editions of NFPA 1981, Standardon Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire and Emergency Services , or with the2007 2013 edition or later editions of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained BreathingApparatus for the Fire and Emergency Services .

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:24:30 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is updating the compliance dates.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 10-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.6 ]

1.3.1.6

Only the requirements of Section 4.3 or the requirements referenced within Section 4.3 shall apply toany open-circuit SCBA that were confirmed by the SCBA manufacturer as meeting the requirements ofthe 1981 or 1987 editions of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained BreathingApparatus for Fire Fighters , or to the 1971 edition of NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory ProtectiveEquipment for Firefighters .

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:33:05 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

This paragraph has been deleted because the referenced editions are no longerapplicable.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

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Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 11-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.7 ]

1.3.1.7

Only the requirements of Section 4.3 or the requirements referenced within Section 4.3 shall apply toany open-circuit SCBA that were never confirmed as meeting the requirements of the 1971 edition ofNFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters , or were never certified ascompliant with any edition of NFPA 1981.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:33:54 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

This paragraph has been deleted because the referenced editions are no longerapplicable.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 16-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 2.2 ]

2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters, 1971 edition.

NFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program, 2013 edition.

NFPA 1901, Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus, 2009 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2018 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2013 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2007 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire and EmergencyServices, 2002 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service, 1997edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1992 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1987 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1981 edition.

NFPA 1982, Standard on Personal Alert Safety Systems (PASS), 2013 edition.

NFPA 1989, Standard on Breathing Air Quality for Emergency Services Respiratory Protection, 2013edition.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:57:52 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is Including the 2018 edition in the Chapter 2 references.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

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30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 3-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]

2.3.1 U.S. Government Publications.

U.S. Government Printing Publishing Office, 732 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC20402 20401-0001 .

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.134, Respiratory Protection, 23 April 1998 7 August2012 .

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.156, Fire Brigades, 18 June 1998 12 December 2008 .

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 11:24:05 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is updating reference names, addresses and issue dates.

Response Message:

Public Input No. 7-NFPA 1852-2015 [Section No. 2.3.1]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

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Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 4-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 4.2 ]

4.2 Reporting Adverse Conditions Involving SCBA.

4.2.1

As part of the respiratory protection program, the organization shall develop standard operatingprocedures (SOPs) for a condition or conditions involving SCBA or SCBA components that lead(s) tofailure, near-failure, or a significant degradation of performance as a result of normal use.

4.2.2

Where a specific condition involving SCBA as specified in 4.2.1 is identified, the organization’sSOPs organization shall cause notify the SCBA manufacturer to be promptly notified in writing of thespecific condition(s) or cause, and the circumstances involved with the specific condition(s) or cause.

4.2.2.1

The procedure for notifying the manufacturer in writing shall be identified in the organization's SOPs.

4.2.3

Copies of the notification to the SCBA manufacturer shall also be promptly supplied to the certificationorganization that certified the SCBA and to National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health NationalPersonal Protective Technology Laboratory (NIOSH NPPTL).

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 11:27:09 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is revising this section to clarify the reporting of adverse conditionsinvolving SCBA.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

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Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Suggested language change to 4.2.3, with an asterisk added for referral to Annex: 4.2.3* Copies of thenotification to the SCBA manufacturer shall also be promptly supplied to Safety Equipment Institute (SEI), thecertification organization that certified the SCBA, and to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,National Personal Protective Technology Laboratory (NIOSH NPPTL).

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First Revision No. 5-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 4.4.1 ]

4.4.1

SCBA that are currently in service shall be certified as compliant with at least one of the followingstandards:

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service ,1997 edition

(1) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire and EmergencyServices, 2002 edition

(2) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2007 edition

(3) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2013 edition

(4) NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices , 2018 edition

Supplemental Information

File Name Description

NFPA_1852_FR_5_4.4.1_Clean_Copy.docx For staff use

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:15:32 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the editions of NFPA 1981 to which SCBA can remainin compliance.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 6-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 4.4.2 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

Where currently-in-service SCBA do not meet the requirements of 4.4.1 and are covered by any of thefollowing four categories, such SCBA shall be upgraded as specified in 4.4.3 or shall be retired asspecified in 4.4.5:

(1) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 1997 2002 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service ,when the SCBA was manufactured

(2) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 2002 2007 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire and EmergencyServices , when the SCBA was manufactured

(3) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 2007 2013 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus(SCBA) for EmergencyServices , when the SCBA was manufactured

(4) Currently-in-service SCBA that were not certified as compliant with the 2013 2018 edition ofNFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices , when the SCBA was manufactured

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:19:10 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the compliance dates for NFPA 1981.

The technical committee is deleting A.4.4.2 because they are no longer applicable to the2018 edition.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 12-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 4.4.4 ]

4.4.4*

Where currently-in-service SCBA do not meet the requirements of 4.4.1 and are covered by any of thefollowing categories, such SCBA shall be retired as specified in 4.4.5:

(1) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1971 edition of NFPA 19B,Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(2) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1981 edition of NFPA 1981,Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBAwas manufactured

(3) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1987 edition of NFPA 1981,Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBAwas manufactured

(4) Currently-in-service SCBA that met only the requirements of the 1992 edition of NFPA 1981,Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, when the SCBAwas manufactured

(5) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased prior to July 29, 1981 that did not meet therequirements of the 1971 edition of NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment forFirefighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(6) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after July 29, 1981 and prior to June 30, 1987 thatdid not meet the requirements of the 1981 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(7) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after June 30, 1987 and prior to August 14, 1992 thatdid not meet the requirements of the 1987 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(8) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after August 14, 1992 and prior to August 15, 1997that did not meet the requirements of the 1992 edition of NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-CircuitSelf-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters , when the SCBA was manufactured

(9) Currently-in-service SCBA that were purchased after August 15, 1997 and prior to March 1, 2003that did not meet the requirements of the 1997 edition of NFPA 1981 when the SCBA wasmanufactured.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:37:03 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is updating the compliance dates.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

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This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

30 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

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Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

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First Revision No. 13-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Section No. 5.1.5 ]

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5.1.5

The organization shall also consider at least the following items during the selection process:

(1) Cross contamination between users and ease of cleaning/decontamination

(2) Legibility of remote pressure indicators in reduced visibility

(3) Size

(4) Weight

(5) Rated service time

(6) Breathing resistance

(7) Environment

(8) Ease of donning and doffing

(9) Comfort

(10) Fit range and available number of facepiece sizes

(11) Number and complexity of steps involved in operation and maintenance of the SCBA

(12) Design features that provide positive feedback to the user that required steps have been completedproperly

(13) Design features that prevent steps from being performed improperly

(14) Operability by user wearing the protective clothing and gloves worn when using SCBA

(15) Facepiece vision area

(16) Cylinder fill station requirements

(17)

(18)

(19) Vision correction needs of their personnel

(20) Characteristics of the end of service time indicators

(21) Communication capability (i.e including, but not limited to , speech diaphragms, voice amplifiers, radiointerface, and so forth )

(22) Supplied air compatibility

(23) Number of spare SCBA and cylinders

(24) Rapid cylinder filling options

(25) Cylinder types

(26) Chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) respiratory protection

(27) SCBA accessories as follows:

(a) Telemetry and monitoring systems

(b) Personnel location systems

(c) SCBA-integrated PASS

(d) Emergency egress escape systems for bailout

(e) Emergency breathing safety system (EBSS)

(28) Data log information and ease of retrieval

(29) Battery life

(30) Integration with command, accountability, and air management systems

Supplemental Information

File Name Description

* Method for uniquely identifying the components of the SCBA

* Facepiece nose cup

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NFPA_1852_FR_13_5.1.5_Clean_Copy.docx For staff use

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 12:40:44 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is adding additional items to the list of considerations during theSCBA selection process.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

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Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Morgan, Judge W.

Regarding the items for consideration in 5.1.5, I would suggest adding the following: Under (27) SCBAaccessories: - In-mask displays - Redundancy of critical life safety systems - Facepiece compatibility with otherrespiratory protection products, such as air-purifying respirators and powered air-purifying respirators -Comprehensiveness of manufacturer’s warranty terms I would recommend changing the following in 5.1.5: •Item(1) Change to “Cleaning and decontamination requirements” •Item (11) Change to "Number and complexity ofsteps involved in operation and maintenance of the SCBA, including any forced maintenance requirements”

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First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1852-2016 [ Chapter D ]

Annex D Informational References

D.1 Referenced Publications.

The documents or portions thereof listed in this annex are referenced within the informational sections ofthis standard and are not part of the requirements of this document unless also listed in Chapter 2 forother reasons.

D.1.1 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 19B, Standard on Respiratory Protective Equipment for Firefighters, 1971 edition.

NFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program, 2013 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices , 2018 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2013 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) for EmergencyServices, 2007 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for the Fire Service, 1997edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1992 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1987 edition.

NFPA 1981, Standard on Open-Circuit Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus for Fire Fighters, 1981 edition.

D.1.2 Other Publications.

D.1.2.1 ANSI Publications.

American National Standards Institute Inc., 11 West 42nd Street, 13th floor, New York, NY 10036.

ANSI/AIHA/ASSE Z88.6, Respiratory Protection — Respirator Use — Physical Qualifications forPersonnel, 1984 2006 .

D.1.2.2 U.S. Government Publications.

U.S. Government Printing Publishing Office, 732 North Capitol Street, NW, Washington, DC20402 20401-0001 .

Title 29, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 1910.156, 18 June 1998 7 August 2012 .

Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Parts 100–199, 1999.

D.2 Informational References.

The following documents or portions thereof are listed here as informational resources only. They are nota part of the requirements of this document.

D.2.1 CGA Publications.

Compressed Gas Association, 1725 Jefferson Davis Highway, Arlington, VA 22202-4100 14501 GeorgeCarter Way, Suite 103, Chantilly, VA 20151-1788 .

CGA Pamphlet C-6.2, Guidelines Standard for the Visual Inspection and Requalification of FiberReinforced High Pressure Cylinders, 2013 .

D.2.2 DOT Special Permits.

Associate Administrator for Department of Transportation, Washington, DC 20590, Attention: DHM-31.

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D.2.3 PSI-PCI Publications.

Professional Scuba Inspectors, 6531 NE 198th Street, Seattle, WA 98155 P.O. Box 2477, Burlington, NC27216 .

William L. High, Inspecting Cylinders.

SCBA Cylinder Technician Inspection, Training, and Certification.

D.3 References for Extracts in Informational Sections. (Reserved)

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 11:20:02 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the referenced SDO names, addresses, standardnames, numbers, and editions.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 1-NFPA 1852-2015 [Chapter D]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Colton, Craig E.

Dickson, William

Kaller, Clint

Radtke, Timothy M.

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Brubaker, Ryan

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Colbert, Rodney V.

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Mayhue, Clint

Miles, Stephen T.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Request an addition to Annex that provides the mailing addresses of NIOSH and SEI to which copied reportsshould be sent: A.4.2.3 Copied reports shall be mailed to the following: Safety Equipment Institute (SEI), 1307Dolley Madison Boulevard, Suite 3A, McLean VA 22101 The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health,National Personal Protective Technology Laboratory (NIOSH NPPTL), 626 Cochrans Mill Road, PITT Building 20,Room #201.1, MS #20, Pittsburgh, PA 15236, Attention: Kim Gavel, General Engineer

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National Fire Protection Association

1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone: 617-770-3000 • Fax: 617-770-0700 • www.nfpa.org

M E M O R A N D U M

TO: Technical Committee on Respiratory Protection Equipment

FROM: Yvonne Smith, Project Administrator

DATE: November 14, 2016

SUBJECT: NFPA 1989 First Draft Technical Committee FINAL Ballot Results (A2018)

According to the final ballot results, all ballot items received the necessary affirmative votes to pass

ballot.

34 Members Eligible to Vote

4 Members Not Returned: Brubaker, Colbert, Colton, Mayhue

28 Members Voted Affirmative on All Revisions

2 Members Vote Affirmative with Comment on one or more Revisions: Miles, Sell

2 Members Voted Negative on one or more Revisions: Anaya, Miles

0 Members Abstained on one or more Revisions

The attached report shows the number of affirmative, negative, and abstaining votes as well as the

explanation of the vote for each revision.

To pass ballot, each revision requires: (1) a simple majority of those eligible to vote and (2) an

affirmative vote of 2/3 of ballots returned. See Sections 3.3.4.3.(c) and 4.3.10.1 of the Regulations

Governing the Development of NFPA Standards.

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First Revision No. 4-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ]

This standard shall apply to atmosphere-supplying respirators that provide the breathing air supply from acompressed breathing gas source or liquid air source that is independent of the ambient atmosphere.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 15:29:03 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 9-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 1.3.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural firefighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/or questionscan be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations. I don't have enoughinformation to support this at this time.

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First Revision No. 6-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 1.3.1.2 ]

1.3.1.2

This standard shall apply to all compressed normal atmospheric air, and all compressed syntheticbreathing air, and liquid air regardless of the source of the breathing air.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 15:33:17 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 10-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 1.3.1.2]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 3-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Chapter 2 ]

Chapter 2 Referenced Publications

2.1 General.

The documents or portions thereof listed in this chapter are referenced within this standard and shall beconsidered part of the requirements of this document.

2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 1500, Standard on Fire Department Occupational Safety and Health Program, 2013 2018 edition.

NFPA 1901, Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus, 2016 edition.

2.3 Other Publications.

2.3.1 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM D2986-95a , Standard Practice for Evaluation of Air Assay Media by the Monodisperse DOP(Dioctyl Phthalate) Smoke Test, 1995 1999 .

2.3.2 ISO Publications.

International Organization for Standardization, 1, Ch. de la Voie-Creuse, Case postale 56, CH-1211 ISOCentral Secretariat, BIBC II, Chemin de Blandonnet 8, CP 401, 1214 Vernier, Geneva 20 Geneva ,Switzerland.

ISO 17025, General requirements for the competence of calibration and testing laboratories, 1999 2005,Technical Corrigendum 1, 2006 .

2.3.3 Other Publications.

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Merriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.

2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections. (Reserved)

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Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

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Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 14:26:32 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee is updating the referenced SDO names, addresses, standardnames and editions.

Response Message:

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34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

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Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Miles, Stephen T.

I support this, no comment.

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First Revision No. 9-NFPA 1989-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.7 ]

3.3.10 Liquid Air System.

A system for the manufacture, storage, and delivery of liquid air.

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Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

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Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 16:33:14 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 12-NFPA 1989-2016 [New Section after 3.3.7]

Ballot Results

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4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 10-NFPA 1989-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.8 ]

3.3.9 Liquid Air.

A cryogenic mixture that, once vaporized, delivers breathable air to the user.

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Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 16:46:25 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 13-NFPA 1989-2016 [New Section after 3.3.8]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 12-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 5.1.1 ]

5.1.1*

At least quarterly, the The organization shall take at least four breathing air samples per year. Samples tomeet this requirement shall be taken within 90 days ± 5 days of each other. The organization shall takebreathing air samples and shall submit such samples to an accredited testing laboratory that meets therequirements specified in Chapter 4.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

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Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 10:16:26 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: The technical committee is clarifying the quarterly sampling requirement.

Response Message:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Berning, Steven K.

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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Miles, Stephen T.

I support this, no comment.

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First Revision No. 5-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 5.3.1 ]

5.3.1

The organization shall document whether the breathing air is derived from normal atmospheric air, ormanufactured synthetic air, or liquid air .

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Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 15:32:09 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 14-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 5.3.1]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Proposed language should not be added. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 13-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 5.3.4 ]

5.3.4

The organization shall have the synthetic breathing air samples tested as specified in Section 6.1 of thisstandard to verify the oxygen content is not less than liquid air in the storage unit shall be sampled foroxygen concentration during the transfer to the respirator to verify that the oxygen content is not less than19.5 percent and not greater than 23.5 percent by volume. A supplier’s analysis or certificate of oxygencontent shall not be sufficient An electronic sampling method shall be permitted to comply with thisrequirement.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 10:36:12 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The TC is revising this paragraph to ensure that liquid air systems meet the oxygenrequirements of NFPA 1989.

ResponseMessage:

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Allen, Jason L.

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Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Current language should not be changed. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 8-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 5.5.1.1 ]

5.5.1.1

Stand-alone air storage cylinders filled from a compressor meeting the air quality requirements inSection 5.6 of this standard shall not require a quarterly sample.

5.5.1.1

Samples from liquid air systems shall be obtained at the point specified by the liquid air system'soperating instructions.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 16:29:54 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source forbreathing air. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquidair manufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 16-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 5.5.1 [Excluding any Sub-Sections]]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

27 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Sell, Robert

Based upon my notes from the meeting, I was under the impression that we were going to keep the original textand add Section 5.5.1.2 to include the sampling location for liquid air?

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Current language should not be changed. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for fire

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suppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 11-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 5.7.2.2 ]

5.7.2.2

The quality assurance sign shall also state the following, and all letters and numbers shall be at least12 mm (1⁄2 in.) in height:

“ COMPRESSED AIR SOURCE IDENTIFICATION — NEXT SAMPLE DUE ON OR BEFORE [date]”

or

LIQUID AIR SOURCE IDENTIFICATION — NEXT SAMPLE DUE ON OR BEFORE [date]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Aug 10 09:40:08 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathingair. The technical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid airmanufacture, storage, sampling, and analysis methodology. Cryogenic air was changed to liquid airfor consistency with the rest of the standard.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 18-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 5.7.2.2]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

28 Affirmative All

0 Affirmative with Comments

2 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Negative with Comment

Anaya, Christopher

Current language should not be changed. It is my opinion the NFPA 1981 TC should not be approving the use ofliquid air for structural fire fighting activities until the technology is better understood and concerns and/orquestions can be adequately addressed.

Miles, Stephen T.

NFPA 1989 does not make provision for, or address "cryogenic liquid air" as a source for breathing air. Thetechnical committee is proposing that the standard be revised to include liquid air manufacture, storage, sampling,and analysis methodology. There is insufficient information on the safe blending of breathing air for me to supportthis for fire fighting operations at this point. Breathing air and water are the two most important factors for firesuppression. Mixed gas breathing air, re-breathers, and synthetic air all have their place in their technicaldiscipline fields. Those applications are beyond the standard fire suppression operations.

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First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1989-2016 [ New Section after 7.2.4 ]

7.3 General Piping and Fittings Safety Factor.

7.3.1

All pneumatic fittings, tubing, and hose shall be rated for the maximum allowable working pressure thatcould be encountered, with a test safety factor of not less than 4:1.

7.3.2

The mechanical separator and the purifier housings shall be designed for a 4:1 safety factor at theirmaximum allowable working pressure.

7.4 SCBA or SCUBA Air Cylinder Fill Stations.

7.4.1

If SCBA or SCUBA air cylinders are to be filled from stationary fill stations, the fill stations shall meet therequirements of NFPA 1901 , 24.9.1.1 through 24.9.6.3.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 10:08:31 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

CommitteeStatement:

The technical committee believes that all compressor components should maintain a 4:1safety factor as stated in NFPA 1901.

The technical committee is adding a section on fragmentation protection for cylinders and isreferencing NFPA 1901.

ResponseMessage:

Public Input No. 4-NFPA 1989-2016 [New Section after 7.2.4]

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4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

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Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Miles, Stephen T.

I support this, no comments.

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First Revision No. 1-NFPA 1989-2016 [ Section No. 7.4.4.1 ]

7.6.4.1*

These records shall include, but not be limited to, the fill date, identification of the person performing thefill, cylinder serial number, breathing air source, final cylinder pressure, and most recent hydrostatic testdate.

Supplemental Information

File Name Description

NFPA_1989_Annex_Item_A.7.4.4.1.docx

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: David Trebisacci

Organization: National Fire Protection Assoc

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Tue Aug 09 09:57:26 EDT 2016

Committee Statement

Committee Statement: Need a comma after "fill date."

Annex information added by TC, please see attached Word document.

Response Message:

Public Input No. 3-NFPA 1989-2016 [Section No. 7.4.4.1]

Ballot Results

This item has passed ballot

34 Eligible Voters

4 Not Returned

29 Affirmative All

1 Affirmative with Comments

0 Negative with Comments

0 Abstention

Not Returned

Brubaker, Ryan

Colbert, Rodney V.

Colton, Craig E.

Mayhue, Clint

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Affirmative All

Allen, Jason L.

Anaya, Christopher

Berning, Steven K.

Bernzweig, David T.

Dickson, William

Domitrovich, Joseph W.

Gainey, Robin R.

Golla, Ed

Harkness, A. Ira

Hayes, Kenneth

Johnson, James S.

Kaller, Clint

Lancaster, Beth C.

Lentz, Kevin D.

Morgan, Judge W.

Mundy, William T.

Ochoa, Ruby

Profit, Bryan

Radtke, Timothy M.

Rossos, Daniel N.

Sanders, Stephen R.

Sell, Robert

Steedman, Trevor L.

Szalajda, Jonathan V.

Szymanski, Michael E.

Tekelenburg, Marco

Trudgeon, Mark

Warner, Kenton D.

Weinstein, Steven H.

Affirmative with Comment

Miles, Stephen T.

I support this, no comment.

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