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Fabiola Gianotti, 13/05/2003 Simulation Project Leader T. Wenaus Framework A. Dell’Acqua WP WP WP Geant4 J.Apostolakis WP WP WP FLUKA Integration A.Ferrari WP WP Physics Validation F.Gianotti WP WP WP Shower Param WP WP Generator Services P.Bartalini WP WP S u b p r o j e c t s W o r k p a c k a g e s Geant4 Project FLUKA Project Experiment Validation MC4LHC From T. Wenaus These Physics validation meetings are organized in the framework of the LCG Simulation Project (put in place following Simulation RTAG)

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Fabiola Gianotti, 13/05/2003 What do we mean by “ validation” ? Validation project Suppose that e.g. for e/  :  (G4-test-beam data)~10% LHC physics simulation Does this meet LHC physics requirements (e.g. for compositeness) ? Check with (fast ?) simulations that this is good enough If not : Needs input/help from the experiment physics groups

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From T. Wenaus

These Physics validation meetings are organized in the framework of theLCG Simulation Project (put in place following Simulation RTAG)

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Fabiola Gianotti, 13/05/2003

What do we need to validate ? • EM physics (should be ~ok)• HAD physics (calorimetry, tracking, radiation background)

• Adequacy and usability of simulation environment: MCTruth, shower parametrisation, infrastructure (e.g. CPU, memory, interactivity), etc.

Note : -- a lot of work already done in the experiments and by G4 and FLUKA teams -- continue/finalise this work. In particular, test coherence of results across experiments and sub-detector technologies.

G4, FLUKA

Validation will be based on : • experiment work : test-beam data, LHC-detector simulations• relevant “simple benchmarks” (e.g. thin targets) : compare G4/FLUKA/data ( see J. Beringer’s talk)• collection of most LHC-relevant results from outside LHC (e.g. BaBar, Belle, HARP …)• interactions with G4, FLUKA, framework experts

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Fabiola Gianotti, 13/05/2003

What do we mean by “ validation” ?

Validation project

Suppose that e.g. for e/ : (G4-test-beam data)~10%

LHC physics simulation

Does this meet LHC physics requirements (e.g. for compositeness) ?

Check with (fast ?) simulations thatthis is good enough

If not :

Needs input/help from the experiment physics groups

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Fabiola Gianotti, 13/05/2003

What will be the output of the project ? • “certify” that simulation packages and framework are ok for LHC physics• weaknesses and strengths of the packages (complementarity) ? • uncertainties and inadequacies of the simulation packages contribution to systematic errors of measurements when data will be available• define optimized and recommended physics lists, balancing technical performance against physics• simulation benchmark suite with relevant plots and tests for automatic (or semi-automatic) validation of future releases• a document (likely with ancillary notes) summarising all the work

High-level (somewhat ambitious …) milestones

• first cycle of EM physics validation by Summer 2003• first cycle of HAD physics validation by end 2003 • further iterations in 2004 : ATLAS combined test-beams; framework; etc.• write final document end 2004 ?

Note : participation of the 4 experiments to the various activities is not uniform (and is time-dependent), but strength of LHC-wide effort is that it allows for some “compensation”

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Fabiola Gianotti, 13/05/2003

• WEB page (created and maintained by J. Beringer): http://lcgapp.cern.ch/project/simu/validation -- work plan of this project look and react -- links to experiment’s simulation validation pages and to G4, FLUKA pages -- minutes of meetings, slides of presentations -- for each WPG of the plan, existing information from the various experiments (in preparation … ) -- collection of our (digested) results : plots + some explanation -- code repository, useful documentations, etc.

• Mailing list : [email protected] please subscribe

• Meetings : each first Wednesday of the month 14:00-16:30 (with a few exceptions)

I propose the following dates for 2003 (see WEB page for details): Wednesday 4/06, 2/07, 30/07, 3/09, 1/10, 5/11, 3/12 Please react quickly if there are problems for some experiments/teams