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Everything You Want to Know About Social Security CliftonLarsonAllen Wealth Advisors, LLC
James P. Clemensen, CFP®
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Table Of Contents
I. Social Security Finances
II. Social Security Benefits
III. When To Take Social Security Benefits
IV. Spousal Benefits
V. File & Suspend
VI. Claim Now, Claim More Later
VII. Combination File & Suspend and Claim Now, Claim More Later
VIII. Divorce & Social Security
IX. Surviving Spouse & Social Security
X. Benefits For Children
XI. WEP & GPO
XII. Medicare Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount (IRMAA)
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Social Security Finances
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Long-Term Trust Fund Projections
Source: 2013 OASDI Trustees Report
0%
5%
10%
15%
20%
25%
2000 2010 2020 2030 2040 2050 2060 2070 2080 2090
Calendar Year
Payable benefits as percent
of scheduled benefits:
Current 100%
2033 77%
2087 72%
Cost: Scheduled and
payable benefits
Cost: Scheduled but not
fully payable benefits
Expenditure: Payable benefits
after trust fund exhaustion
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Social Security Benefits
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Full Retirement Age (FRA) Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME) Procedure Operations Manual System (POMS)
Retirement Benefit Spousal Benefit Survivor Benefit Application Suspend Restrict
Keywords
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Example of Benefit Formula
PIA formula:
– $826 x .90 = $743
– $4,154 x .32 = $1,329 ($4,980 - $826 = $4,154)
– $4,086 x .15 = $613 ($9,066 - $4,980 = $4,086)
$2,685
PIA = $2,685
(Amount worker will receive at full retirement age)
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When To Take Social Security Benefits
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Life expectancy (longevity risk)
Survivor needs (value of second to die benefit)
Need for income (liquidity risk)
Inflation protection
Investment risk/return
Public policy risk
Factors To Consider
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Life Expectancy
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Age Benefits
Are Claimed % of PIA
Benefit without
COLAs ($/mo)
Benefit with 2%
COLAs ($/mo)
62 75.0 2,014 2,014
63 80.0 2,148 2,191
64 86.7 2,328 2,422
65 93.3 2,505 2,658
66 100.0 2,685 2,906
67 108.0 2,900 3,302
68 116.0 3,115 3,508
69 124.0 3,329 3,824
70 132.0 3,544 4,152
Assumes PIA = $2,685
Delaying Benefits
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Year of Birth Full Retirement Age (FRA)
1924-37 65
1938 65 & 2mo
1939 65 & 4mo
1940 65 & 6mo
1941 65 & 8mo
1942 65 &10mo
1943-54 66
1955 66 & 2mo
1956 66 & 4mo
1957 66 & 6mo
1958 66 & 8mo
1959 66 &10mo
1960- 67
Full Retirement Age
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Delaying Benefits
Age of Application FRA = 66 FRA = 67
62 75.0% 70.0%
63 80.0% 75.0%
64 86.7% 80.0%
65 93.3% 86.7%
66 100.0% 93.3%
67 108.0% 100.0%
68 116.0% 108.0%
69 124.0% 116.0%
70 132.0% 124.0%
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Breakeven Analysis
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Spousal Benefits
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Spousal Benefits
A spouse may receive their own benefit, or 50% of their spouse’s benefit
Spousal benefits rules: • Primary worker must have applied for benefits (but can suspend to
build delayed credits if over FRA) • Spousal benefit is based on worker’s PIA, not his actual benefit • Spouse must be at least 62 for reduced benefit or 66 for full benefit • No delayed credits on spousal benefits after 66 • Marriage requirement is one year
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Age FRA = 66 FRA = 67
62 35.0% 32.5%
63 37.5% 35.0%
64 41.7% 37.5%
65 45.8% 41.7%
66 50.0% 45.8%
67 50.0% 50.0%
68 50.0% 50.0%
69 50.0% 50.0%
70 50.0% 50.0%
Spousal Benefits
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Social Security Spousal Strategies
• File & Suspend
– Use when wife wants to claim spousal benefit while
husband delays his benefit (or vice versa)
• Claim Now, Claim More Later
– Use when husband wants to claim spousal benefit off
wife’s record (or vice versa)
• Combination File & Suspend and Claim Now,
Claim More Later
– Use for two high-earning spouses
– One Files & Suspends, the other files a restricted
application for the spousal benefit
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File & Suspend
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Immediate Benefit Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $800
• Chandler and Monica immediately file for benefits of $2,014 and $981
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Delayed Benefit Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $800
• Chandler claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
• Monica claims her $1,573 spousal benefit off Chandler’s record at her age 70
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Optimal Delayed Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $800
• Chandler Files & Suspends at 66
• Monica claims her $1,453 spousal benefit off Chandler’s record at 66
• Chandler claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
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Cumulative Benefits
Age Immediate Benefits Delayed Benefits Optimal Benefits
65 $127,679 $0 $0
70 $337,400 $67,606 $138,334
78 $719,290 $659,474 $730,214
80 $824,597 $822,681 $893,425
90 $1,418,487 $1,743,113 $1,813,876
100 $2,142,436 $2,865,115 $2,935,901
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Optimal Combination Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $800
• Monica claims her $600 retirement benefit at 62
• Chandler Files & Suspends at 66
• Monica claims her $1,185 spousal benefit off Chandler’s record at 66
• Chandler claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
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Claim Now, Claim More Later
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Immediate Benefit Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Sam and Diane immediately file for their own retirement benefits of $2,014 and $981
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Delayed Benefit Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Sam claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
• Diane claims her $1,573 maximum benefit at 70
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Optimal Delayed Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Diane files for her own $1,082 benefit at 66
• Sam files for his $541 spousal benefit at 66
• At age 70, Sam claims his $4,152 full benefit and Diane switches to her higher spousal benefit of $1,573
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Cumulative Benefits
Age Immediate Benefits Delayed Benefits Optimal Benefits
65 $146,226 $0 $0
70 $346,075 $67,592 $147,911
78 $709,988 $659,337 $739,778
80 $810,337 $822,510 $902,986
90 $1,376,271 $1,742,751 $1,823,418
100 $2,066,141 $2,864,519 $2,945,419
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Optimal Combination Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Diane claims her $750 retirement benefit at 62
• Sam files for his $541 spousal benefit at 66
• At age 70, Sam claims his $4,152 full benefit and Diane switches to her higher spousal benefit of $1,280
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Combination File & Suspend and Claim
Now, Claim More Later
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Immediate Benefit Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Chandler and Monica immediately file for their own retirement benefits of $2,014 and $1,800
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Delayed Benefit Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Chandler claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
• Monica claims her $3,712 maximum benefit at 70
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Optimal Delayed Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Chandler Files & Suspends at 66
• Monica claims her $1,453 spousal benefit off Chandler ’s record at 66
• Chandler claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
• Monica switches to her $3,712 maximum benefit at 70
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Cumulative Benefits
Age Immediate Benefits Delayed Benefits Optimal Benefits
65 $187,030 $0 $0
70 $442,646 $93,575 $164,296
77 $845,813 $803,151 $873,872
80 $1,036,459 $1,138,686 $1,209,408
90 $1,760,314 $2,412,671 $2,483,393
100 $2,642,689 $3,965,652 $4,036,374
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Optimal Combination Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 62.00 and 62.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Monica immediately files for her own retirement benefits of $1,800
• Chandler claims his $1,299 spousal benefit off Monica ’s record at 66
• Chandler claims his $4,152 maximum benefit at 70
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Spousal Benefit Option Decision Table
Lower Benefit as %
of Higher Benefit Spousal Benefit Option
0.0% - 33.0% File & Suspend
33.0% - 37.9% Claim Now, Claim More Later
37.9% - 100.0% Claim Now, Claim More Later, OR…
Combination File & Suspend and Claim Now, Claim More Later
37.9% - 42.0%
70.0% - 100.0% Claim Now, Claim More Later (Ranges of relative attractiveness)
42.0% - 70.0% Combination File & Suspend and Claim Now, Claim More Later
(Range of relative attractiveness)
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Divorce & Social Security
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Divorced Spouse Benefits
• Marriage must have lasted 10 years or more • Person receiving divorced-spouse benefit is currently
unmarried • Ex-spouse is at least 62 • If divorce occurred more than 2 years ago, ex-spouse
does not need to have filed for his own benefit • More than one ex-spouse can receive benefits on the
same worker's record • Benefits paid to one ex-spouse do not affect those paid
to the worker, the current spouse, or other ex-spouses • The worker will not be notified that the ex-spouse has
applied for benefits
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Surviving Spouse & Social Security
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Survivor Benefits Key Points
• Individual Social Security benefits stop at death
• The surviving spouse is entitled to a survivor benefit equal to the deceased spouse’s benefit
– If Sam dies, Diane’s “original” survivor benefit will equal Sam’s benefit at the time of his death
– Diane will receive the full survivor benefit if she claims it at her full retirement age or later
– Diane’s own benefit will stop
• If Diane’s own retirement benefit is higher, she will keep her own benefit
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Survivor Benefits
Apply at age If FRA = 66
60 71.50%
61 76.25%
62 81.00%
63 85.75%
64 90.50%
65 95.25%
66 100.00%
67 100.00%
68 100.00%
69 100.00%
70 100.00%
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Immediate Benefit Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 60.00 and 60.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Sam dies
• Diane immediately claims survivor benefits at 60, receives reduced benefits of $1,920
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Delayed Benefit Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 60.00 and 60.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Sam dies
• Diane claims survivor benefits at 66, receives benefits of $3,024
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Optimal Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 60.00 and 60.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Sam dies
• Diane claims retirement benefits at 62, receives reduced benefits of $780
• Diane claims survivor benefits at 66, receives full benefits of $3,024
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Immediate Benefit Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 60.00 and 60.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Chandler dies
• Monica immediately claims survivor benefits at 60, receives reduced benefits of $1,920
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Delayed Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 60.00 and 60.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Chandler dies
• Monica claims retirement benefits at age 70, receives benefits of $3,862
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Optimal Delayed Scenario
Chandler & Monica
Age 60.00 and 60.00
Chandler’s PIA = $2,685 Monica’s PIA = $2,400
• Chandler dies
• Monica immediately claims survivor benefits at 60, receives reduced benefits of $1,920
• Monica claims retirement benefits at age 70, receives benefits of $3,862
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Benefits For Children
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Benefits For Children
Children of retirees can also receive Social Security benefits until they complete high school (family maximum payment limits payout to 180% of retiree’s full retirement age benefit)
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Optimal Combination Scenario
Sam & Diane
Age 62.00 and 54.00
Sam’s PIA = $2,685 Diane’s PIA = $1,000
• Sam immediately claims his $1,920 reduced benefit
• Norm, Cliff, and Woody (age 14) receive benefits through high school of $674
• Sam suspends benefits at age 66, claims $3,146 benefit at age 70
• Diane files for $1,113 spousal benefits at 62
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Advice For Individuals By Marital Status
Currently married Coordinate benefits with spouse; one or both spouses delay own benefit to age 70, one spouse receives spousal benefit 66-70
Divorced Delay own benefit to 70, take divorced-spouse benefit from 66-70
Widowed Coordinate retirement and survivor benefits; take higher benefit last
Never married Maximize own benefit by working; delay start of benefits to age 70
Individual With Deceased Ex-spouse
Consider survivor benefit as a possible resource if not remarried before age 60
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WEP & GPO
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WEP & GPO
Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) • Social Security benefit may be reduced if client worked in a non-Social
Security covered job (e.g., police officers, government employees) • $408 maximum reduction
Government Pension Offset (GPO) • Applies to spousal/survivor benefits; reduction is 2/3 the amount of pension
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Medicare Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount (IRMAA)
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Joint MAGI
+ Tax Exempt
Standard Part B
Premium
IRMAA Part B
Premium
IRMAA Part D
Premium
<$170,000 $104.90 $0.00 $0.00
$170,000 - $214,000 $104.90 $42.00 $12.30
$214,000 - $320,000 $104.90 $104.90 $31.80
$320,000 - $428,000 $104.90 $167.80 $51.30
>$428,000 $104.90 $230.80 $70.80
Medicare IRMAA
• Marriage • Divorce/Annulment
• Death of Your Spouse
• Work Stoppage
• Work Reduction • Loss of Income-Producing Property • Loss of Pension Income • Employer Settlement Payment
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James Clemensen, CFP®, Wealth Advisor 612-373-1404 [email protected] CliftonLarsonAllen Wealth Advisors LLC