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Evaluating Health Communication Strategies: Part 2
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Evaluating Health Communication
Strategies: Part 2
Ms. McDivitt: What I have done sometimes
is, with the awareness and knowledge, I say they
will know this, this, and this, and they will
feel they are capable of doing this, this, and
this. That kind of says what do they need to
know, which you might want to make more obvious,
and we are going to have messages on that as well,
because, otherwise, you are sort of making this
assumption. Logic models are great for
bringing assumptions out.
Mr. Petty: Just a quick comment on your
situation because that is something that we are
facing with the National Diabetes Prevention
Program, trying to coordinate messages between
CDC, the Y, and UHG. Part of that depends on
the MOUs or the different kinds of arrangements
that you have with your partners.
To some extent, you cannot control
everything your partner does, obviously. But
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that is something that you definitely want to
monitor and try to keep as consistent as
possible for a branding perspective, I mean for
a lot of different implications that relate to
communication.
But one thing that we are doing after a
year, we are setting up a meeting next month with
all of the communications folks from the three
organizations to really sit down and share each
other’s marketing plans and try to make things
a lot more consistent. So that we are all at
least putting out the same messages and kind of
having similar strategies, and are a little more
aware of what each other is doing.
But, I mean, with regular communication,
and you try to involve the partners as best you
can, but it is certainly a challenge, and you
are not alone with facing that. So, I just
wanted to make that comment.
Ms. McDivitt: You will often have a lot
of different things that you could look at. So,
you need to figure out, what am I going to look
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at, because we never have enough money to look
at everything we want to. The kinds of things
that you think about selecting, again, these big
research questions, what you are going to look
at are the stakeholders. Who are the major
stakeholders? What do they want to know? How
important is it to answer their questions?
So, really trying to look at, if your
program is in danger of having its budget cut
if you don’t show impact, you probably would
like to measure that because that is a
stakeholder that is important, but, also,
answering their question is important. And
actually, to you, answering that question is
important.
Another is, how are you going to use the
answer if you get it? What are you going to do
if you get the answer you want or the answer you
don’t want? Is there something that you can do
in response? Is it going to help you make
decisions?
It is very tempting, particularly if there
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is a survey going out, to add a whole pile of
other questions because they are interesting,
but they actually have nothing to do with trying
to really measure the different pieces of your
program. Surveys cost, and the more time you
have, the more someone is going to say, “You
know, I am tired of doing this,” and they quit.
So, really thinking about, if I find out
my program didn’t work after two years of doing
it, what am I going to do? Are you going to use
it? What can you do?
You might want to think about, you know,
I think maybe we had better measure that a little
bit earlier because, if at the end of the program
I find this out and I haven’t had any inkling
in those two years, that is going to be a problem
because you can’t use the answer. I mean, the
funder can use the answer. They can say, “Well,
we are not going to fund you again.”
So, really trying to think about, what are
you going to do if you get the answer to that
question? How are you going to use it? Are you
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going to use it to make a decision? Or do you
just want to know this because you think it would
be fun to know it?
The thing is evaluation is not a research
study. I mean, you are trying to have
real-world questions. It is not just because
it would be nice to know.
How important is it to answer it? Here’s
where I make another plug for it is really
important to measure reach and exposure. It may
be that this is something that has to happen
before something else can happen.
The example of the partners, it may be very
important to answer that question because, if
they don’t do their part or if they do their part
in a way that doesn’t match the rest of it, you
are going to have a less-successful program.
The same thing with, you know, oftentimes, it
is important to measure was there an impact
because your funders want to know.
Where are there uncertainties?
Where are there potential problems? Are you
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concerned that maybe the materials are not
really being developed properly and
disseminated properly? Are you concerned
about whether people are actually going to be
reached? Are you concerned about whether they
are going to reach the right people? It is kind
of, where are you uncertain?
Because, again, you don’t want to measure
something where you already know the answer. Or
you don’t want to spend a lot of time measuring
something where you already know the answer.
So, I think oftentimes, because it is easier,
we spend time measuring the inputs and the
outputs. Oftentimes, that is a
relatively-easy thing to do.
And so, you know that if you develop
materials, that they are going to be of high
quality. You know how many you sent out. But
what you don’t know oftentimes is the stuff that
happens afterwards. Again, here’s this whole
situation of uncertainty about what the
partners are going to do. You start kind of
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looking at this and you say, okay, who wants to
know that? Can I use the answer? How important
is to know? Am I uncertain? And do I have the
resources to answer this question? That is, of
course, the million-dollar question.
You may say, “Yes, yes, yes” to all, which
would suggest, aha, I think maybe I should
focus, do something on this one. So, I
definitely want to measure whether the partners
are doing what they should do.
But the resources, you really have to kind
of look at: do you have the money? Do you have
the time? Do you have the staff and the skills
or can you get the skills to answer the kinds
of questions you have?
If you have big questions about causal
direction and whether any impact can be
attributed to your program only, you may have
to bring in some expertise that you don’t have.
It is going to cost you more. So, again, this
is where none of us have enough resources to do
this kind of thing the way we really want.
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Identifying what you can do within the resources
you have got.
I think evaluators can be very creative.
There are lots of different ways to try to get
at stuff. There are kind of gold standards.
But if you don’t have any gold, then reaching
the gold standard is not really going to be
possible.
I think we are all in a situation right
now where we are trying to think about how can
we get the best answer we can within the
resources that we have got. And my big thing
is anything is better than nothing, and try to
do it the best you can within what you have got.
Once you know the big questions that you
have, the kinds of things that you are going to
want to know, and let’s say it is you want to
know whether you had any impact and kind of how
that happened, and then, you also have this big
question about whether the partners did their
part. We will just sort of pick those two. You
need to think about, okay, how am I actually
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going to design the evaluation? How am I going
to collect the data?
As I said before, oftentimes, you are
going to need help from someone who has research
skills. You have a bunch of choices. But,
again, the kinds of things that you are going
to have to consider are: what is the purpose
of the evaluation? Am I doing this evaluation
mainly for me to understand the process? Or am
I doing this evaluation because the CDC has told
me I have to? What questions are you trying to
answer? Who are the stakeholders?
And here is where things come in of,
depending on some of that, how precise and how
good does your evaluation have to be? Do you
really need to have a whiz-bang, complicated
design? Or can you have something that will be
less costly, less complicated, and that will be
enough?
Once you kind of get a sense of am I going
to do a survey, am I going to do observations,
how am I going to organize this, you need to think
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about what you are going to measure, specific
indicators of the concepts that you have got in
your logic model. If you say, “I have to reach
people. People need to be exposed,” what the
heck does that mean? This is kind of getting
to the question of how do you measure exposure
or knowledge or awareness or behavior change.
I mean, what does that really mean? What
specifically can you ask people or can you
observe to measure that?
With whom are you going to measure it, the
sources? Who needs to be in your sample? Who
are the people that you are addressing? What
are the kinds of people who need to be in your
evaluation?
The quality that is required, and I think
oftentimes, if you are doing some work mainly
to sort of do a gut check for yourself, then the
quality doesn’t need to be as great as for
something that has got bigger implications.
How much do you need to collect? How big
does your sample need to be? How much data do
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you have to collect?
And then, there is sort of all the
logistical stuff that I think a lot of you are
probably aware of, but how you actually go and
collect the data, the specifics. Again, you
have to have a plan for how you are going to do
that.
So, in thinking about sort of the methods
you are going to use or the design you are going
to use, one of the things that we really would
like to be able to do, I think, is to say that
the impact that you got is due to your program.
So, essentially, looking at causal models.
Unfortunately, you need more complex, more
rigorous, and more expensive designs in order
to do that, particularly if you have
communication activities that are part of other
activities that are going on.
If you want to say, “Well, it was my
communication activity, but there was a policy
piece and the partners were providing more
services,” so really trying to identify was that
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you. And so, this is not the answer you wanted
me to give you, but for communication programs
looking at was it my program or was it something
else can be pretty complicated.
And so, there are all these various
designs of like quasi-experimental designs and
before/after and control groups, and so forth.
Again, this is why oftentimes you are going to
want to bring a researcher into this.
I think one complication, I mean, this is
sort of a problem with evaluation, period, of
any activity that you are doing, is how can I
attribute it to my program. For communication
there is one complication, particularly for
mass media. That is most of the time mass media
anybody can get it. So, you can’t have a control
group. There isn’t anybody who didn’t get it.
One of the examples that is used is it would
be great if you had a whole sort of homogenous
group of people and half of them heard the
message and the other half didn’t because there
is nothing different, except there was a big
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mountain in the way and you just couldn’t get
the radio signal. And so, that would be perfect
because, then, you would have people who are
pretty much the same. One got it; the other
didn’t get it.
But that usually doesn’t happen. The
people who don’t get reached are often
different. They often have fewer resources,
less access. They are crabby. Look at
differences in people using the internet, using
the web. People who don’t use the web tend to
be older, tend to have different socioeconomic
status. You just see all these differences.
You don’t have comparable groups. And so, you
can end up in trouble there.
This is one of the things. If you have a
communication activity where you can really
focus down to a narrow group of people, then you
have a better chance of looking at this
question. But, oftentimes, particularly for
mass media, it goes out to everybody.
So, okay, what are some other options,
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then, in trying to think about some of the
programs that we do? Well, one is you can do
the program everywhere, but focus your
evaluation only in a few places. And you can
think about, okay, do I want places where
everybody is sort of the same or do I want a
variety? So that you can say, well, I am going
to do a community that is mostly low-income
African-American, and I am going to do a
community that is older adults, just so that you
can say, okay, did it work in different people?
This is not the gold standard. This is not
perfect. But really trying to think about what
is it you are trying to accomplish. Because if
you don’t expect a lot of change, you have to
have a really huge sample to be able to see
anything at all.
I think another thing, too, is to really
try – as I said before, we measure inputs. We
measure activities. Often, we don’t move
anywhere else down the line. So, if there is
any way at all of trying to measure exposure,
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whether you actually reach the people you wanted
to reach, and this is a little bit what we are
doing in terms of some of the activities that
we have.
We do have a way of measuring, if we do
some promotional activities, did people
actually respond in any way whatsoever? So, you
are kind of getting to: did they ask for
materials? Did they call us? Did they call the
warehouse? Did they call NDEP at NIH? Did they
download anything? There is the capacity to do
this. So, that is kind of one thing: did they
do anything at all?
Now the problem here, though, is they may
have asked for it, and then they got it and they
put it on the shelf or they threw it in the trash.
Again, is there some way that you can, then, move
a little farther down and say, okay, these
people ordered this; these people requested
this. Then what? Can you call some of them up?
Again, you might want to call 100. If you can’t
afford 100, then you might want to call 25.
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Again, I think sort of my constant refrain
is anything is better than nothing. Do the best
you can. Do the best evaluation work you can
within the resources you have got. It is
frustrating, but I think we have been finding
some creative ways to do things within the
limitations we have that are providing valuable
information. You do have to think, though, is
it valuable information or are you just
collecting data that is not useful?
Now there was a question yesterday and
also today about measuring exposure. There are
a whole bunch of ways you can do this. One is
just sort of basic exposure where you can count
people who attended a course, people who came
to a webinar, people who came to an event. That
doesn’t give you huge amounts of information.
It just tells you sort of numbers of people.
Sometimes you can know at least who they are;
sometimes you can’t.
And often, for exposure, you are going to
have to ask people questions. Asking people
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questions about whether they have seen or heard
something, it is self-report. So, that always
ends up being a little problematic.
These are measures that the VERB Campaign
used. They started with an unprompted message.
Now I have tweaked it a little bit. “Have you
seen a booklet about steps for controlling
diabetes?” Yes/no?
Now what happens with a yes/no question?
Participant: You usually ask them and,
then, they will say yes.
Ms. McDivitt: Yes, people will often say
yes because they want to be nice to you. So,
then, you want to validate this a little bit.
You could say, “What’s it called?” Or you could
say, “What color is it?”
This can get a little ridiculous. I was
working on a project in Liberia where one of the
messages had a jingle. We would say, “Have you
heard messages on the radio about family
planning?” If they said yes, we said, “Can you
sing the jingle for us?” So, we are making
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people sing. You know, who was the main
character? A couple of things that will help
you identify was it actually this or was it
something else. Again, there is tons of stuff
out there. So, some other kind of validation
measure.
VERB essentially said, “Have you heard any
messages or seen anything on TV about kids being
more active,” or something? And then, they
said, “Well, what was it called?” because the
brand was pretty in your face.
So, prompted, then, people who say no or
people who when you say, “What’s it called?”
they say, “the ladder to diabetes success.”
Well, that is not the name of it. It is called
Four Steps.
Then, you actually ask them, “Have you
seen a booklet called Four Steps?” Again, you
are going to end up, probably it is going to be
skewed, but you are going to have a couple of
measures now because you got the people who did
it unprompted. At some level, you can say they
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are more aware.
And then, they also asked self-reported
frequency of exposure. Among those who were
aware from these two measures, “How often did
you see or hear these?” They gave them “every
day” – so they gave them categories of answers.
Again, this is not perfect. I mean, if I
asked you, “On average, how many hours of
television do you watch a week,” could you
answer that? Okay, so she could, but I would
have to go, okay, well, I don’t know. Did I
watch TV this week? I don’t know. What did I
watch?
You could say, “Okay, well, did you watch
it yesterday?” “Yes, but yesterday I was in the
middle of this course and there wasn’t anything
good, so I didn’t watch anything. But the day
before, I watched five hours.” So, these
exposure measures are pretty complicated.
But if you are asking it in a more general
way, oftentimes people can’t really remember.
If you say, “Have you ever heard about a pamphlet
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called Four steps,” and someone says yes, but
that has been out for a long time. So, if I
asked, “Where did you hear about it,” how are
they going to answer? Are they going to
remember, I don’t know, the last thing? Are
they going to remember their favorite channel?
Are they going to say, “I saw it on TV,” but it
was not on TV. That kind of question is really
hard to answer.
I mean, “Have you heard any messages about
healthy diet lately?” I never know whether to
trust the answer to that question because it is
kind of is someone capable of answering it. Is
it true?
Then, there is another one, which is
essentially, “Did you do anything in response
to this material?” which a lot of people use.
It is also not one of my favorite ways of doing
this, although sometimes you have to. People
are going to say yes, because you asked me and
I want to give you the answer that you want.
There is this whole way of getting people
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to answer sensitive questions. There is this
wonderful book on asking questions that has a
whole series of questions on how you ask the
question of whether somebody killed their wife
or not, because you have to give them the option
of saying no.
So, you can say, “How strongly do you agree
with the following: `I killed my wife.’?”
Strongly agree. Or “Some people kill their
wives; other people don’t. Do you happen to
have killed yours?”
Trying to find a way to give someone
permission to say they didn’t do it, but there
tends to be a strong bias to agreeing. So, even
on strongly agree or disagree – because people
know what the right answer is, which actually
is why it is very important to pretest any of
your instruments. Because, oh, I have had
experiences where you ask a question and it is
like, wow, that question stank.
You collect the data. Now you have to
analyze it. You have to make conclusions, and
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you have to justify those conclusions. You have
got a bunch of stakeholders, and some of them
may not like the answers that you have come up
with.
So, there is a lot of thinking about how
do you pass the laugh test, so that the
stakeholders are going to believe what you found
and use it, especially if they don’t like it,
especially if you didn’t get what they wanted.
Here is where – and I think someone
mentioned this already – what are the standards
for the stakeholders? What do they think
success would be? Do they think that success
is 10 percent and you are thrilled because you
got 2 percent, but they are saying, “Failure.”?
Because, again, evaluation is a judgment. So,
that part of it is somewhat subjective. You
need to sort of come to some agreements on what
is going to be considered success.
The point that you brought up here of, to
you, success is if we got more partners; we did
this, we did this, we did this, but we didn’t
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get down to being able to show someone actually
changed their behavior.
What is success and who is defining it?
Really thinking about doing the best analysis
that you can as objectively as you can. The same
thing with interpretation. With
interpretation, often it is helpful if you say,
particularly if it is successful, you say, “We
changed behavior, but here are some things we
didn’t change.”
I have been in situations where there are
people where everything is a success, and they
never talk about any of the problems. They
never talk about any of the difficulties. I
just keep on thinking I am not sure I believe
them.
So, really trying to make sure that you
have looked at things in a whole bunch of
different ways. Again, there is a lot of
judgment involved. Really thinking about one
person’s success can be another person’s
failure.
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It is really important to come up with
recommendations. You really have to try to find
a way to make all this seem fair and unbiased,
that you don’t have sort of an axe to grind. Or
have other people come in and kind of help you
out with that.
Very important step, make sure that it is
going to be used and that lessons learned are
going to get out there. Again, you don’t do this
at the end where you say, “Okay, now I am ready
to pass it out to people.” If you are working
with your stakeholders throughout, if you are
thinking about use and how you are going to use
it, how other people may use it, then,
hopefully, by the time you get here, you are not
even really going to think about that.
You really need to design the evaluation
so it is going to answer the questions that
stakeholders have to make decisions. You need
to prepare the stakeholders for the results,
particularly if they are not what they wanted,
and understand sort of what their concerns are.
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Get feedback. Involve them. Follow up with
people.
And really get them out to people in the
format they need. Programs I have been involved
with have been guilty of this. You produce this
huge report, and that is not really what people
need. They need something that is much shorter.
They need something that is in a completely
different format that is much more accessible.
Then, from a program planning point of
view, you want to be able to use the results
yourself. So, you may be thinking about, you
know, my goals and objectives, I don’t think
they were really realistic based on my
evaluation. Maybe I will change that. Or I
think maybe I need to do more. Or I need to do
something different. Or I need to really kind
of look at was it worth the cost, considering
what I got back from it. Oftentimes,
accountability to the funder is something that
you really need to think about. Again, really
using the knowledge that you learned.
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These are some pitfalls in program
evaluation. Again, I alluded to this.
Collecting data that you are not going to use,
just because you can.
Questions on surveys and focus groups and
talking to people, those are very valuable
opportunities. And so, you really want to think
carefully before you sort of gum them up with
extra stuff.
Again – and it is kind of related – looking
at outcomes that are really beyond what you
could have been expected to do. So, doing
something that is looking at something that is
too big. Or looking at too many people. I think
you can really think about – and this is, again,
related to focus – if the program is focusing
on American Indians and Alaska Natives, just
because you can doesn’t mean you want to survey
everyone in three states where there are high
populations. Throughout this, I think we have
been talking about kind of focusing down and
thinking in a systematic way.
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This is in your handouts, an example of
different kinds of questions that could be asked
in our small state, other evaluation. When I
was thinking about this last night, I am not sure
that we have gotten far enough on our case study
to really think about evaluation. We would be
having to make it all up. But I think you can
start to think about in your own programs how
you might want to design the evaluation.