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    1/22/2015 Argentine-Iranian relations: A pact with the devil? | The Economist

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2013/01/argentine-iranian-relations

    NarayNsandiego Jan 30th 2013, 03:13

    Canadian Engineer 1917 Jan 31st 2013, 05:18

    PuppetCorporation Feb 1st 2013, 13:17

    RumbaClave in reply to Nickuru Jan 30th 2013, 17:22

    Speaking as a Westerner, my negative attitudes toward Iran really stem from its well documented

    abuses of human rights and the restrictive nature of its non-democratic government.

    The continuing comparison of Iran to Nazi Germany disturbs me. I don't believe there is any country

    in the world today comparable to Nazi Germany, with the exception of North Korea. I do not like the

    leaders of Iran, but they are in no way comparable to Hitler.

    If Iran was like Nazi Germany, it would have invaded a neighboring country. In fact, during the Iran-

    Iraq War, they refrained from invading Iraq, even after repelling the Iraqi invasion of their own

    territory. If they were like Nazi Germany, they would have at least made threats to invade other

    neighboring countries. Yes, Ahmadinejad once said that "the Zionist regime will be wiped off the

    map," but the passive tense is important. He believes that the State of Israel in its current form is

    analogous to the Crusader states, and will eventually cease to exist. Hateful? Yes. Genocide? No.

    That is simply his interpretation of history.

    It is important to note that Israel has repeatedly threatened to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities, and that

    Israel is the only nuclear-weapons equipped state in the Middle East. I challenge readers to show me

    a direct threat made by any leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran against the State of Israel.

    Wow, the Economist is actually referring to Iran as 'the devil'. This is reminiscent of when Bush tried

    to convince us a decade ago, that Iraq was evil. Seriously?!? And if were not with you, were against

    you right?

    Two nations try to get to the bottom of who was actually responsible for a terrorist attack, and

    immediately Israel begins protesting wildly. Alarm bells are ringing.

    Rather than mindlessly accepting that Iranians, Iraqis (or whoever is the enemy of the week) are

    inherently evil, I wish people would get into the habit of asking themselves which motives exist?

    Who are the benefactors of international events? Did Iran gain anything what-so-ever from the

    terrorist attack on an innocent Jewish community? How about the sympathy that was caused for the

    nation state that officially associates itself with Jews? Could sympathy be considered a benefit? Has

    Israel a history of espionage, foreign political manipulation and bad morals? (yes) Did the attack help

    or harm Irans image to the world?

    If Iranians are involved in the attack, it makes sense to collaborate with Iranian security agencies to

    catch them.

    Iran is the world's leading sponsor of global terror. They have killed innocents in Israel, Argentina,

    Lebannon, Iraq, Afghanastan, throughout Western Europe, Thailand. They make no exceptions for

    killing their own people...what makes you think they would limit themselves to going accross the

    Atlantic ?

    Don't be an apologist with their head in the sand.

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    kashgar1927 in reply to RumbaClave Jan 30th 2013, 14:47

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    CoffeeFanatic in reply to NarayNsandiego Jan 30th 2013, 09:34

    The result of the investigation will be that it was all a plot by the CIA to destabilize Argentina.

    "A pact with the devil?"

    A misleading title, Argentina is not cooperating with Israel.

    Yes, or the Israeli's investigate war crimes against their captured subjects, the Palestinians.

    In 1994 Iran bombed not just a Jewish Community Center,

    but Buenos Aires, Argentina, and South America.

    IRAN ATTACKED ARGENTINA.

    That by itself is violation of Argentinian sovereignty, killing Argentinians,

    using a weapon of mass destruction blatantly on innocent civilians on a peaceful city street, and

    cause for WAR.

    ___________________________________________________________

    Now Argentina is defying justice all because of black oil.

    When Argentina becomes a center of Jihad terrorism and terror attacks,

    then the chicken will have come home to roost.

    The world will not cry for Argentina.

    Cristina is no Evita--She needs about dozen plastic surgery miracles.

    Or have Hamas investigate their suicide bombers......its a 2 way street.

    Iranians are the bad guys. Jews are the good guys.

    Common... Where and in what age do you live?

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    RumbaClave Jan 30th 2013, 14:12

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    Asprin Jan 30th 2013, 09:30

    Excelencia Jan 31st 2013, 11:13

    john4law Jan 31st 2013, 02:03

    thought provoker Jan 30th 2013, 08:52

    When someone says 'the Zionist regime will be wiped off the map' - I think the tense is the least

    important thing. The most important thing is the desire to obliterate Israel.

    Iran is undemocratic, repressive and regularly abuses human rights of its own people. It is not as bad

    as Nazi Germany, but it is a very very long way from being a decent respectable country.

    What a farce. Why not have the Nazis investigate the Holocaust ?

    She has lost it.

    One of the masterminds behind the 1994 attack is a member of the Iranian government. So much for

    "advancing knowledge of the truth about the attack".Kiciloff is a self-proclaimed Marxist who considers USA to be a greater threat for world peace than

    Iran. I have no idea how Timerman can live with this. Maybe he is just clinging to his job? Cristina is

    just crazy as she always has been. Unfortunately, she is only getting worse. All the lying must have

    intoxicated her brain.

    I am trying for feel sorry for any of these parties, but as a Brit I believe they deserve each other. It is

    very hard to care.

    Iran and Israel can duke out their proxy war in Argentina.

    I think TE has omitted the most likely explanation when dealing with a regime as corrupt as the

    Kirchners'. The Iranians simply bribed Ms. Fernndez (as they allegedly did with her predecessor and

    supporter, Carlos Menem) for this whitewash.

    Just blame the Mossad and move on!

    Argentina is playing its cards really well.In t he pro-western influenced world where people are

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