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Representation ElectionMay 15, 2014 - June 12, 2014
Voting Methods
Internet
Voting Methods
Internet
Telephone
Voting Methods
Internet
Telephone
Instructions delivered from NMB via US Mail
Voting Methods
Internet
Telephone
Vote is FINAL once cast
Ballot Choices
Ballot Choices
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Ballot Choices
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Frontier Airline Pilots Association
Ballot Choices
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Frontier Airline Pilots Association
Write-In
Ballot Choices
International Brotherhood of Teamsters
Frontier Airline Pilots Association
Write-In
No Representation
Voter Eligibility
Voter Eligibility
673 Pilots Employed as of 12/15/2013
Voter Eligibility
673 Pilots Employed as of 12/15/2013
Probationary Pilots - eligible
Voter Eligibility
673 Pilots Employed as of 12/15/2013
Probationary Pilots - eligible
Management Pilots - ineligible
Voter Eligibility
673 Pilots Employed as of 12/15/2013
Probationary Pilots - eligible
Management Pilots - ineligible
Retired - ineligible
Voter Eligibility
673 Pilots Employed as of 12/15/2013
Probationary Pilots - eligible
Management Pilots - ineligible
Retired - ineligible
Separated for any reason - ineligible
Voter Eligibility
673 Pilots Employed as of 12/15/2013
Probationary Pilots - eligible
Management Pilots - ineligible
Retired - ineligible
Separated for any reason - ineligible
Leaves of Absence - eligible* Unless working for another carrier
Determination of Winner
Determination of Winner
Majority of votes cast
Determination of Winner
Majority of votes cast
Only valid ballots will be counted
Determination of Winner
Majority of votes cast
Only valid ballots will be counted
Voter’s intent for representation must be clear
Determination of Winner
Majority of votes cast
Only valid ballots will be counted
Voter’s intent for representation must be clear
Blank ballots and “Non Votes” - VOID
Run-Off Election?
Run-Off Election?
Only if no option receives a majority of vote
Run-Off Election?
Only if no option receives a majority of vote
2 options receiving largest # of votes
Run-Off Election?
Only if no option receives a majority of vote
2 options receiving largest # of votes
No “write-in” option
Run-Off Election?
Only if no option receives a majority of vote
2 options receiving largest # of votes
No “write-in” option
Option receiving highest # of votes wins
Reality
Reality
FAPA & IBT are on ballot
Reality
FAPA & IBT are on ballot
ALPA “write-in” ?
FAPA - Track Record
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
Based solely on best interests of Frontier Pilots
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
Survived bankruptcy with CBA largely intact
Based solely on best interests of Frontier Pilots
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
Survived bankruptcy with CBA largely intact• No work rule changes
Based solely on best interests of Frontier Pilots
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
Survived bankruptcy with CBA largely intact
• Furlough mitigation via VLOA
• No work rule changes
Based solely on best interests of Frontier Pilots
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
Survived bankruptcy with CBA largely intact
• Furlough mitigation via VLOA
• No work rule changes
• Unsecured creditors claim
Based solely on best interests of Frontier Pilots
FAPA - Track Record
Track record providing effective representation
Survived bankruptcy with CBA largely intact
• Furlough mitigation via VLOA
• No work rule changes
• Unsecured creditors claim
• Seat at table (UCC)
Based solely on best interests of Frontier Pilots
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
Overriding goal of keeping Frontier separate
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
Overriding goal of keeping Frontier separate• Keep seniority list separate
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
Overriding goal of keeping Frontier separate
• Keep CBA separate
• Keep seniority list separate
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
Overriding goal of keeping Frontier separate
• Keep CBA separate
• Keep seniority list separate
IMSL was a disaster, BUT….
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
Overriding goal of keeping Frontier separate
• Keep CBA separate
• Keep seniority list separate
IMSL was a disaster, BUT….• FAPA fought for Airbus fence
FAPA - RAH Acquisition
Overriding goal of keeping Frontier separate
• Keep CBA separate
• Keep seniority list separate
IMSL was a disaster, BUT….
• FAPA limited impact on day-to-day lives
• FAPA fought for Airbus fence
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
Frontier Airlines at risk of liquidation
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
Frontier Airlines at risk of liquidationTentative Agreement
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
Frontier Airlines at risk of liquidation
• LOA 67 allowed Frontier to survive
Tentative Agreement
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
Frontier Airlines at risk of liquidation
• Commercial Agreement provided “skin in the game”
• LOA 67 allowed Frontier to survive
Tentative Agreement
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
Frontier Airlines at risk of liquidation
• Commercial Agreement provided “skin in the game”
• LOA 67 allowed Frontier to survive
• Contractual commitment by RAH to sell Frontier
Tentative Agreement
FAPA - 2011 Restructuring
Frontier Airlines at risk of liquidation
• Commercial Agreement provided “skin in the game”
• LOA 67 allowed Frontier to survive
• FAPA limited impact on day-to-day lives
• Contractual commitment by RAH to sell Frontier
Tentative Agreement
FAPA - LOA 67
FAPA - LOA 67
Deferred previously negotiated snap-backs
FAPA - LOA 67
Deferred previously negotiated snap-backsTemporarily reduced 401k match
FAPA - LOA 67
Deferred previously negotiated snap-backsTemporarily reduced 401k matchTemporarily froze longevity
FAPA - LOA 67
Deferred previously negotiated snap-backsTemporarily reduced 401k matchTemporarily froze longevity
Temporarily reduced vacation/sick accrual
FAPA - LOA 67
Deferred previously negotiated snap-backsTemporarily reduced 401k matchTemporarily froze longevity
Temporarily reduced vacation/sick accrual
Extended amenable date of CBA to 2017
FAPA - LOA 67
Deferred previously negotiated snap-backsTemporarily reduced 401k matchTemporarily froze longevity
Temporarily reduced vacation/sick accrual
Extended amenable date of CBA to 2017
Total Value: ~$53 Million
FAPA - Commercial Agreement
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
• Equity
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
• Equity
• Profit Sharing
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
• Equity
• Profit Sharing
• Deadline to sell Frontier (12/31/2014)
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
• Equity
• Profit Sharing
• Deadline to sell Frontier (12/31/2014)
Formed FAPA Invest for Frontier Pilots
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
• Equity
• Profit Sharing
• Deadline to sell Frontier (12/31/2014)
Formed FAPA Invest for Frontier Pilots• Protect Investment Interests
FAPA - Commercial AgreementStructured LOA 67 as investment
• Equity
• Profit Sharing
• Deadline to sell Frontier (12/31/2014)
Formed FAPA Invest for Frontier Pilots• Protect Investment Interests
• Return to those who invested
FAPA - “Investment” Return
FAPA - “Investment” Return
$1.7 Million in Cash
Paid in December 2013
FAPA - “Investment” Return
$1.7 Million in Cash
$3.5 Million Profit Sharing Buyout
Paid in December 2013
4 annual payments starting April 2013
FAPA - “Investment” Return
$1.7 Million in Cash
$3.5 Million Profit Sharing Buyout
4% Equity Ownership of Frontier Airlines
Paid in December 2013
4 annual payments starting April 2013
FAPA - Equity Value?
FAPA - Equity Value?
4% of Initial Public Offering
FAPA - Equity Value?
4% of Initial Public Offering
- or -
FAPA - Equity Value?
4% of Initial Public Offering
4% cash payment based on valuation
- or -
FAPA - Equity Value?
4% of Initial Public Offering
4% cash payment based on valuation
- or -
• if no “Change of Control” by 2020
FAPA - Equity Value?
4% of Initial Public Offering
4% cash payment based on valuation
- or -
• if no “Change of Control” by 2020• based on Frontier Airlines valuation
as determined by 2 independent auditors
FAPA - 4% of What?
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
$1 Billion
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
$1 Billion$40 Million to Frontier Pilots
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
Spirit Airlines Market Cap at IPO?
$1 Billion$40 Million to Frontier Pilots
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
Spirit Airlines Market Cap at IPO?
$1 Billion
~ $825 Million
$40 Million to Frontier Pilots
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
Spirit Airlines Market Cap at IPO?
$1 Billion
~ $825 Million• 35 Airplanes
$40 Million to Frontier Pilots
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
Spirit Airlines Market Cap at IPO?
$1 Billion
~ $825 Million• 35 Airplanes
• Q1 Revenue ~$233M
$40 Million to Frontier Pilots
FAPA - 4% of What?
Conservative estimate of IPO?
Spirit Airlines Market Cap at IPO?
$1 Billion
~ $825 Million• 35 Airplanes
• Q1 Revenue ~$233M
$40 Million to Frontier Pilots
• Frontier Revenue: $327M
Final Qtr. Reported
under RJET
Comparison
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees, BUT…..
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees, BUT…..• Indigo pioneered ULCC model at Spirit
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees, BUT…..
• Spirit was an unproven model to Investors
• Indigo pioneered ULCC model at Spirit
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees, BUT…..
• Spirit was an unproven model to Investors
• Indigo pioneered ULCC model at Spirit
• Spirit was smaller than Frontier
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees, BUT…..
• Spirit was an unproven model to Investors
• Indigo pioneered ULCC model at Spirit
• Spirit was smaller than Frontier
• Indigo seeks to replicate success at Frontier
FAPA - Equity Appreciation?
No guarantees, BUT…..
• Spirit was an unproven model to Investors
• Indigo pioneered ULCC model at Spirit
• Spirit was smaller than Frontier
• Indigo seeks to replicate success at Frontier
So how has Spirit performed as an investment?
Spirit Appreciation
Spirit Appreciation
Over 450%in 3 years!
Spirit Pilot Equity?
Spirit Pilot Equity?0% - They gave it up
Spirit Pilot Equity?0% - They gave it upWhat if they hadn’t?
Spirit Pilot Equity?0% - They gave it upWhat if they hadn’t?
For illustrative purposes only!
DISCLAIMER: FAPA does not represent that your investment in Frontier Airlines will perform or achieve the same results as this hypothetical 4% equity position in Spirit
illustrates. This information should not be regarded as investment advice or as a forecast of future investment performance.
Why support FAPA?
Why support FAPA?
Proven Effective as Independent Union
Why support FAPA?
Proven Effective as Independent Union• Focused 100% on Frontier Pilots Interests
Why support FAPA?
Proven Effective as Independent Union• Focused 100% on Frontier Pilots Interests
• Maintain autonomy
Why support FAPA?
Proven Effective as Independent Union
• Insulated from short-term risks of ALPA
• Focused 100% on Frontier Pilots Interests
• Maintain autonomy
Why support FAPA?
Proven Effective as Independent Union
• Insulated from short-term risks of ALPA
• Focused 100% on Frontier Pilots Interests
• Maintain autonomy
• Leverage to negotiate future merger with ALPA
Why support FAPA?
Proven Effective as Independent Union
• Insulated from short-term risks of ALPA
• Focused 100% on Frontier Pilots Interests
• Maintain autonomy
• Leverage to negotiate future merger with ALPA
• X-factor
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
FAPA has always given in to pressure
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
• Gun to head? Bankruptcy 1113/RAH Restructuring
FAPA has always given in to pressure
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
• Gun to head? Bankruptcy 1113/RAH Restructuring
Small fish in big pond
FAPA has always given in to pressure
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
• Gun to head? Bankruptcy 1113/RAH Restructuring
• Same situation if ALPA
Small fish in big pond
FAPA has always given in to pressure
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
• Gun to head? Bankruptcy 1113/RAH Restructuring
• Same situation if ALPA
Small fish in big pond
Indigo will dominate FAPA
FAPA has always given in to pressure
Pilot Concerns with FAPA?
Contentious History• FAPA 2.0 - New philosophy & attitude
• Gun to head? Bankruptcy 1113/RAH Restructuring
• Same situation if ALPA
Small fish in big pond
Indigo will dominate FAPA
FAPA has always given in to pressure
• Why? CBA intact until 2017
Dues
Dues
FAPA ALPA
Dues
Dues
FAPA ALPA
1.65%
Dues
Dues
FAPA ALPA
1.65% 1.9%
Dues
Dues
FAPA ALPA
1.65% 1.9%
$1,237,500 $1,425,000
ALPA Considerations
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests
• Conflicts of interest
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests
• Conflicts of interest• ALPA National must balance
those interests
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests
• Conflicts of interest• ALPA National must balance
those interests• Likelihood of DFR’s
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests
• Conflicts of interest• ALPA National must balance
those interests• Likelihood of DFR’s • Please talk to former ALPA pilots
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPASettled on 1/23/2014
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPASettled on 1/23/2014$53 Million in damages
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPASettled on 1/23/2014$53 Million in damages
$27 Million in ALPA funds$26 Million - Reinsurers
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA
CAL argues conflict of interest
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA
CAL argues conflict of interestALPA favored UAL pilots
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA
CAL argues conflict of interestALPA favored UAL pilotsALPA concerns of losing UAL
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA
Related to SWA merger
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA
Related to SWA merger9 DFR Counts
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA
Related to SWA merger9 DFR CountsSeeking $200K/Pilot/Count
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA• Eagle vs. ALPA
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA• Eagle vs. ALPA
Filed 3/31/2014
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA• Eagle vs. ALPA
Filed 3/31/2014Claim ALPA favored APA
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits
• TWA vs. ALPA• CAL Pilots vs. ALPA• Airtran Pilots vs. ALPA• Eagle vs. ALPA
There are others!
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Delta - 11723 Pilots
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Delta - 11723 Pilots• 5800+ have signed NMB cards
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Delta - 11723 Pilots• 5800+ have signed NMB cards• 6500 is goal to file dispute
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Delta - 11723 Pilots• 5800+ have signed NMB cards• 6500 is goal to file dispute• Estimated ALPA Dues: $38M
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• United - 12505 Pilots• Estimated ALPA Dues: $40M
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Majority of rest are regionals
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?
Airtran ASA CommutAir ExpressJet Jazz Piedmont
Air Transat Bearskin Compass FedEx JetBlue PSA
ATI Calm Air Endeavor Air First Air Kelowna Spirit
Air Wisconsin
Canadian North
Envoy AirHawaiia
nMesa Sun Country
Alaska CanJet Evergreen Island AirNorth
AmericanTrans States
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests
ALPA Merger Policy?
• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Majority of rest are regionals
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?
• A Framework for discussion
• Competing interests
ALPA Merger Policy
• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Majority of rest are regionals
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?
• A Framework for discussion
• Competing interests
ALPA Merger Policy
• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Majority of rest are regionals
• Not controlling (Allegheny-Mohawk)
ALPA Considerations
50,000 strong?• Competing interests• Multiple DFR lawsuits• DAL & UAL pilots leaving?
• Majority of rest are regionals
• A Framework for discussion
ALPA Merger Policy
• Not controlling (Allegheny-Mohawk)
No Guarantees
• 2 ALPA MEC’s Negotiate• Mediate• Arbitrate
• Allegheny-Mohawk• Delta-Northwest ended up
in arbitration• Midwest?
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
Limited Duration
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
Limited Duration
Longer Elimination Period
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
Short Term Disability
Limited Duration
Longer Elimination Period
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
Short Term Disability• Inferior to Frontier STD plan
Limited Duration
Longer Elimination Period
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
Short Term Disability• Inferior to Frontier STD plan
Limited Duration
Replaces less income
Longer Elimination Period
ALPA Insurance Benefits
Loss of License Insurance• Inferior to Frontier Pilot LTD plan(s)
Replaces less income
Short Term Disability• Inferior to Frontier STD plan
Limited Duration
Replaces less income
Longer Elimination Period
Longer Elimination Period
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
Coverage
STD Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month
Coverage
STD Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage
STD Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage
STD Elimination Period
Duration
$37.38/month
for 60 dayelimination
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week
STD Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week $1000/week
STD Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week $1000/week
STD Elimination Period
15 days
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week $1000/week
STD Elimination Period
15 days 30 or 60 days
Duration
$37.38/month
for 60 dayelimination
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week $1000/week
STD Elimination Period
15 days 30 or 60 days
Duration 11 weeks
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month $42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week $1000/week
STD Elimination Period
15 days 30 or 60 days
Duration 11 weeks 52 weeks
Insurance Comparison
Short Term Disability FAPA ALPA
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
$35.08/month
$42.46/month
Coverage $1500/week $1000/week
STD Elimination Period
15 days 30 or 60 days
Duration 11 weeks 52 weeks
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
Coverage
Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge
Coverage
Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge
Coverage
Elimination Period
Duration
Company pays 90%
Union Dues pay 10%
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage
Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage
Elimination Period
Duration
~$250.00Company pays
$225Union Dues
pay $25
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month
Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period
Duration
* $2400 after 2 years
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period 90 days
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65 4 years*
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month*
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65 4 years*
* Option to extend at additional cost
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$151.67/month
Coverage $5000/month
$4800/month*
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65 4 years*
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge
Coverage $5000/month
Elimination Period 90 days
Duration to age 65
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month
Elimination Period 90 days
Duration to age 65
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month
Elimination Period 90 days
Duration to age 65
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month $4800/month
Elimination Period 90 days
Duration to age 65
Years 1 & 2
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month $2400/month
Elimination Period 90 days
Duration to age 65
Years 3+
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month $2400/month
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month $2400/month
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65 to age 65
Insurance Comparison
Long Term Disability FAPA(LTD)
ALPA(Loss of License
PLUS)
Cost (assume $80k annual income)
No Charge$264.33/month
Coverage $5000/month
$2400/month
Elimination Period 90 days 365 days
Duration to age 65 to age 65
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
• Adversarial relationship
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
• Adversarial relationship
Well documented
“Maximum Cost” Grievance Process
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
• Adversarial relationship
• Going to “roll over” FAPA
Well documented
“Maximum Cost” Grievance Process
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
• Adversarial relationship
• Going to “roll over” FAPA
Well documented
“Maximum Cost” Grievance Process
Contract not amenable until 2017
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
• Adversarial relationship
• Going to “roll over” FAPA
Well documented
“Maximum Cost” Grievance Process
Contract not amenable until 2017
Snap-backs on track
ALPA Considerations?
Experience & Strength with Indigo• Study Spirit’s ALPA Contract• Spirit Struck
• Adversarial relationship
• Going to “roll over” FAPA
Well documented
“Maximum Cost” Grievance Process
Contract not amenable until 2017
Snap-backs on track
Leverage?
ALPA Considerations?
Resources
ALPA Considerations?
Resources• Get what you pay for
ALPA Considerations?
Resources• Get what you pay for• Big carriers get “A-Team”
ALPA Considerations?
Resources• Get what you pay for• Big carriers get “A-Team”
• Delta, United & FedEx are the big dogs
ALPA Considerations?
Resources• Get what you pay for• Big carriers get “A-Team”
• Delta, United & FedEx are the big dogs• Trickles down from there
ALPA Considerations?
Resources• Get what you pay for• Big carriers get “A-Team”
• Delta, United & FedEx are the big dogs• Trickles down from there
• Please seek feedback from peers who previouslyworked under ALPA representation
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests• ALPA National determines level of resources
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests• ALPA National determines level of resources• FAPA C&BLs provide mechanism for oversight
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests• ALPA National determines level of resources• FAPA C&BLs provide mechanism for oversight
Any active member may bring business before the BOD
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests• ALPA National determines level of resources• FAPA C&BLs provide mechanism for oversight
Any active member may bring business before the BOD
Any member may petition membership for change
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests• ALPA National determines level of resources• FAPA C&BLs provide mechanism for oversight
Any active member may bring business before the BOD
Any member may petition membership for change
BOD is bound by majority vote of active members
ALPA Considerations?
Oversight• ALPA National represents multiple interests• ALPA National determines level of resources• FAPA C&BLs provide mechanism for oversight
Any active member may bring business before the BOD
Any member may petition membership for change
BOD is bound by majority vote of active members
Officer recall procedures
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