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EL34 EL34 EL34 EL34 ECC83 ECC83 ECC82 ECC81 CCT board is green on track side but brown on componant side Looks like V125 BASS (Cct board has no FETs in input stage but some differences: Both inputs are wired together and present a single input to the V1 (pin 7). Amp has a dual ganged distortion control (not sensitivity like in either V125 LEAD or V125 BASS). Output to speakers is switch selectable (not like V125LEAD) Has 2 x signal diodes (after V2 ?) not in V125 LEAD cct INPUTS 2 x signal diodes (back-to-back to chassis) DIST VOL HUM Balance between heater bus’s BIAS MAST Climax

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EL34EL34EL34 EL34

ECC83 ECC83 ECC82

ECC81

CCT board is green on track side but brown on componant side �

Looks like V125 BASS

(Cct board has no FETs in input stage

but some differences:

Both inputs are wired together and present a single input to the V1 (pin 7).

Amp has a dual ganged distortion control (not sensitivity like in either V125 LEAD or V125 BASS).

Output to speakers is switch selectable (not like V125LEAD)

Has 2 x signal diodes (after V2 ?) not in V125 LEAD cct�

INPUTS

2 x signal diodes

(back-to-back to

chassis)

DIST VOL

HUM Balance

between heater

bus’s

BIAS

MAST

Climax

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REPLACED

And all tubes even though 2 x EL34 were

OK and the ECC8x’s seemed OK

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EL34 V5

EL34 V6

EL34 V7

EL34 V8

1

4

5

3

8

ECC81

V4

ECC83

V2

ECC82

V3

mains

Output

transformer

C27a

C27b

INPUTS

Does not match V125 Lead, or

V125 Bass schematics.

Looks more like AC120

pair

pair

History:

Purchased 2nd hand about 1987

Initial issues :

Fine for a few years then developed a trait of after an hours

usage, the volume would start to waver and drop, and then all hell

would break loose.

Relegated to the storeroom...

UNTIL NOW !

Current issues:

HT fuse blew at power on

2 / 4 output tubes look cloudy

Broken CAP in EQ

Broken EL34 during testing

Lots of dry joints

Current notes during testing

Loud hum and much (microphonic) crackling.

Resoldered many dry joints

Replaced all tubes

Replaced all caps in EQ

Replaced several ‘darkened’ resistors

Replaced broken greencap

.

blackPink

grey

Grey/

black

Blue tap

RED tap

White tap

SPKR SPKR

150K

150K

1M5

10nF

ECC83

V11 6

2 7

83

BRILLIANT

NORMAL

INPUT and

OUTPUT wiring

OUTPUT

INPUT

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TBC:

but looks more like an

AC120 input channel

Does not match V125

Lead or V125 Bass

schematics.

Look

Familiar ??

AC120

My V125

inputs

Credit: Phydauex for sharing the TAP colors and impedances : http://music-electronics-forum.com/t24513/

(red/pink=8 ohm tap, white=4 ohm tap, blue= ohm tap/earth, grey wires=internal speaker)

black

PINKgrey

Grey/

black

Blue tap

RED tap

White tap

Speaker switch witing

This is how mine is wired8

I don’t know for sure if this is

correct.. .it’s just how it is 8.

OR

AND

ECC83

V116

27

8 3

150K

150K

1M5

10nF

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DIST

Pot-2

47K LIN

8

7

6

3

2

1

(ECC81)

Found to be

47n

Replaced with

100n

470n

ceram

3

2

1

(ECC83)

(ECC83)

3

2

1

8

7

6

(ECC82)

4k7

4.7uF

4.7uF

All 4 EL34 :

100K + 10K via pin 6

(see side diag.)

56n

10K

100K

Do these (plate) voltages

need to be swapped too

???

8

7

6

None of this part matches what

is actually in my amp.

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DIST

Pot-2

47K LIN

(dual gang)

8

7

6

3

2

1

(ECC81)

Found to be

47n

Replaced with

100n

470n

ceram

3

2

1

(ECC83)

(ECC83)

3

2

1

8

7

6

(ECC82)

4k7

4.7uF

4.7uF

All 4 EL34 :

100K + 10K via pin 6

(see side diag.)

56n

10K

100K

220k

100k

220k

100k

47k

47k

3

2

1V1

2k2

2.2n

DIST

Pot 1

47K

LIN

(dual-gang)

100k

2.2n8

7

6V1

2.2n

2k2

2 x 1N4184

150K

150K

1M

5

10nF

100k

100k

? Tbc ?

This may not be correct, but it’s pretty

close as far as I can trace on the cct

board in my V125

(In other words, I’m not entirely sure I

mapped this out correctly)

(ECC83)

(ECC83)

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8

7

6V2

4k750n

R14

100k

220k

100k

220k

100k

47k47k

3

2

1V1

2k2

2.2n

Dist

Pot 1

47K

LIN

100k

2.2n8

7

6V1

2.2n

2k2

2 x 1N4184

150K

150

K1

M5

10nF

100k

8

7

6V3

100k

R16

100k

22k

1W

R31

1K 1W

R32

100R 5W

R33

stndby

47K

R29

C27b

32uF

C27a

32uF

56K

R28

V4-P1

V4-P6

485v 430v

405v

275v

280v

8

7

6V2

4k750n

R14

100k

220k

100k

220k

100k

47k47k

3

2

1V1

2k2

2.2n

Dist

Pot 1

47K

LIN

100k

2.2n8

7

6V1

2.2n

2k2

2 x 1N4184

150K

15

0K

1M

5

10nF

100k

8

7

6V3

100k

R16

100k

22k

1W

R31

1K 1W

R32

100R 5W

R33

stndby

47K

R29

C27b

32uF

C27a

32uF

56K

R28

V4-P1

V4-P6

485v 430v

405v

275v

280v

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Rear of input jacks (red wire goes to ECC83 (V1 ?)

Pair 1 Circuitry OK

(not blowing HT fuse or valves)

Pair 2 Circuitry OK

(not blowing HT fuse or valves)

CAP is clearly broken � and

what is going on ith that furry

trim-pot ???

VOX V62.5 ???

Climax

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150K

150K

1M5

10nF

ECC83

V11 6

2 7

83

ECC83

V21 6

2 7

83

ECC83

V116

27

8 3

150K

150K

1M5

10nF