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EAST AND WEST

THE DIFFERENCES AND THE SIMILARITIES-A RESEARCH REPORT

AS A STORY

Well, Respected Friends and the Readers I wish to share with you about our

family as that of Prof. Harnek Singh and Mrs. Gian Kaur, appearing on the

websites. I wish that you kindly read when you have time, as I want to be honest

with my dealings. It is something that makes one think about past and to handle

it in present for better future. It is a true story, not just a fiction as if I am

traveling to Canada with a western person, but the discussion is true, only the

name and place is changed. It is for the social awareness about individual,

family, group, community to global genocide. Thanks!

A Sikhs Appeal as a Human: Am I A Traitor to Australia or West?

You see I wish to know if I am really a traitor. The religious, cultural and other

issues remain a mystery as I have tried to describe it as a story.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-I

We are going to share a real lifetime experiences of my life relating to our familymembers, education, careers and our works, we will continue it as a lesson for

those, who are the victims of the countries, cultures and the global changes. All

of it is in the form of a story. It is a true story. It reveals the bitter truths and the

sweetness of humanly bonds as well.

Excuse me, please, you see we are sharing the same window in the plane, can

we talk? he asks.

Yaw, we can, I say.

Are you from India? he asks.

Yaw, I am an Indian, I reply.

I see. Are you NRI, he asks.Well, I am not NRI; I am from India, and you, I ask.

Well, I am from Canada, he replies.

It is nice meeting you, I say.

Thanks, I am delighted, it has been a wonderful experience to visit India, he

says.

Yaw, indeed it is, even the people in India visit various places with the feelings

of reverence and enjoy it, I say.

Wow, it is wonderful; I have noticed and enjoyed it,

Hey, are you just going to visit abroad? he asks.Yaw, I am just going to visit Canada, I reply.

Thanks, well; why do you speak sadly? he asks.

Well, I am not sad, I say.

Come on, just share it, do not be so mean, he says.

All right, you know you are an interesting person; do you have time to listen?

You see I have many points, which seem of great concern for me, my personal,

social points and life in general, I say.

Yaw, tell me, you see New Delhi to Toronto, wow, it is a long way to go, we can

discuss a lot, is not it, he says.


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Well, you see English is not my first language, so I may not be able to convey

exactly what I want to, I say.

You know, you are telling me as if you are a perfectionist, we can communicate

even when we do not understand the language, is not it, he says.

Yaw, you are right. Well, you see I belong to a family in which my father is a

retired vice-principal of Govt. College for Physical Education, Patiala in Punjab,

I say.

Wow, please tell me more about him and your family, he says.

Well, you see he has been Asian champion and best player, as well as the

youngest volleyball player, I say.

Wow, it is wonderful, he says.

You know he used to be considered as among best ten in the world as at that

time it was not a game in Olympic in early sixties. I feel proud of him, you know,

he was the decathlon champion of India, interuniversity champion of javelin

throw, I say.Gosh, he is a good sportsman, is not it, he says.

Yaw, you know he is the only living legend of Indian sports being the champion

of 12 games. He is a writer, poet, singer, actor, producer and so many other

qualities that he brought us up by sacrificing name, fame and money such that

students and colleague call him the King of sports. He was the best sportsman

at the national school games, while at the high school, is not it a wonderful, I

say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-II

Yaw, I feel so. Hey was your grandfather sportsman? he asks.

No, he was a good carpenter in a village, I say.

Wow, was he rich to make your father a great sportsman? he asks.

No, you see my father belonged to a poor family in a village, which was not

able to pay even his fee. My grandfather was having five sons and two

daughters, I say.

Hey, waits a minute, how comes that your father became an international

player? he asks.

Well, it is an amazing point, you see he reached to an international level insports by his own efforts as the colleges offered him the scholarships, and other

financial helps, I say.

I see it means he is a self-made human, but why did not he go to the Olympics.

He asks.

Well, it was due to lack of funds, he could not prepare for the Olympics, I say.

Hey, he could have approached the authorities and the seniors, did not he do

it? he says.

Yaw, he could have, but you know he is extremely reserved kind of person and

thus has never interfered in anybodys life, I reply.I see. Why he did not go abroad? he says.

You see he was having many offers of jobs from abroad, but he did not go, for

his children, us to learn to serve the community as a good citizens, is not it a

setting an example as a good father? I say.

Wow, it is setting a good example, we have such people both in east and west,

is not it, he says.

Yaw, I am proud of it, I reply.

We enjoy the richness and joy of diversification of countries and the

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He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-III

After some time, we have another talk.

Well, you see, even though my father was a great sportsman, he had many

troubles, I say.

Yaw, it seems so, but I wonder if he had opportunity for a good job as you say

he is a good player? he says.

You are right. He had many opportunities and could have joined any job, as he

was the international player of 12 games. He selected to be a lecturer in the

sports. He has taught thousands of students and used to deposit the fee of the

poor students, without ever telling them, I say.

Wow, it seems a good example, did not he try to earn some many from other

works? he says.

No, you see he spent almost whole of his day in the college from morning toevening. Moreover, his books of poems remained ignored, as he did not want to

publish it. He wrote many books, but preferred to be a practical person. He never

allowed media throughout his life for name, fame and limelight and preferred a

life of privacy, I say.

Well, it seems a good example, but is this privacy a practical approach? he

asks.

You see the practical examples may not be the professional ones, however he

wanted his children to be practical not just the bookworms. Thus, he taught and

advised us to learn and earn, so he arranged the cows and buffaloes, so ourfamily worked and studied, while topping in the respective fields of the studies,

is not it a practical way of living? I say.

Wow, it sounds good, could your family members study, while working? he

asks.

Yaw, you see one of my sisters topped in the university for three years in post

graduation and in diploma, she won three national awards. One earned great

reputation in the media and as national level yoga teacher. We always studied

and worked, is not a good achievement? I say.

Wow, I like it. You see it is a good lesson to learn. Hey, how did you go? he

asks.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-IV

Gosh, you know, I went to study abroad and got the merit to enter into the

University of Adelaide, South Australia, without knowing even how to speak

properly in English language before going there, and now I am writing books in

English. I thank my parents and the family for it, I say.

I see. It is a good point, so your father and mother managed to help teach five of

their kids to study. The four went to graduation level and three of your sisterspassed masters degrees, it is a good to hear. Hey, is your father post graduated

or have done his doctorate? he asks.

Well, as I said sometimes the money makes mare go. I regret that he him self

could not complete his masters after passing the first year as the authorities

phased the financial support as he was overage to participate in the games as he

attained the 26th year of age, I say.

Alas, was not there anyone to help him to complete his degree? he asks.

Regrettably, there was none to help him financially. Even then, it did not

distract him to contribute to the society. You see he is among the founder

lecturers, who founded the first government college for Physical Education in the


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North India. He devoted his life for it, attending the morning, afternoon and

evening sessions delivering lectures and conducting the practical for about 35

years. His contribution to the college and the physical education is a legendary.

He received honors for it, but usually these are not in the form of money. He set

an example to remain a sportsperson for more than 60 years. Today even at the

age of 72 he is doing his best. His is the only living legend of India, who is

international player of 12 games. It is wonderful, is not it, I say.

Wow, I like it. You see his simplicity is setting an example to live a natural life,

is not it. Does he reflects on the national and international problems or just lives

and enjoys his personal life? he asks.

Well, you see while having vast global knowledge about all international

problems and issues, as he loves philosophy more than anything. He always

gives his neutral opinions on the global problems, I say.

Well, it means the human struggle is same everywhere, whether we go to east

or the west, is not it, he says.I agree. It is not the place, the circumstances may affect more than the place,

where we live, I say.

Yaw, the place is just a stage of our human life and we play our part, he says.

We share the smile as if a cry.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-V

After drinking some water, we continue our talk.

I see. How long did you keep your animals with you while working andstudying? he asks.

You see the credit of it goes to my revered mother, she is an ideal householder

woman. The family kept a dairy farm while we all studied while working with

more than 20 cattle, cows and buffaloes for more than thirty years, though as we

completed studies the number of cattle decreased and we had the last cow in

2006, I say.

Why do you feel that you have not achieved anything, it is a good that your

family did lots of works and the studies, is not it, he says.

You see I do not want to be a joke of the day. The reason I regret is that it is

difficult to progress in such adverse circumstances, which our family and I faced;I have helped so many people financially in so many ways that I have no funds

right now. I just paid for helping people in trouble hoping that I will get good

response and development from the future. However, it was a US$ 4000. We

produced a TV serial, the first ever in Punjabi about the Indian Philosophy of

Religion, Mythology and Mysticism, and the money has not been made paid to

us, it about US$ 50,000. Is not it disgusting? I say.

Yaw, it is. Are not you proud of it that after all odds, your family could do such

a mega projecting without support? he says.

You are right, we as a family are proud of it. However, the people, who weoffered work in the team first claimed that they were helping as if they have

invented a golden chance for us. However, later on their motive change as the

money makes mare go. It affected other similar productions from our production

house, as a result one of my approve script and pilot episode is waiting for funds

to be telecasted, I say.

Wow, so you have a TV serial in your credit, it is a good achievement, is not it,

he says.

You are right, but due to not getting the payments, the family faced lots of

problems. For us, in the family, the philosophy, Divinity and Mysticism is hobby.

Moreover, for my father, after retirement, while dwelling on his pension, he


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accepted the proposal of making the TV serial. For seven years, the pension went

to this work. The loans and others points are part of it. The familys income

remained as if earning for it for until today, as it appears that the channel is not

going to pay, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-VI

Oh, I see, did not the senior workers in your production house do anything? he

asks.

Possibilities for the opportunists are not helping, it is time to gain. You see the

changing values and the ethics are such that one of the person, whom we offered

work, asked us to pay some money to the producer, who did not want to

produce the religious serial. However, he also borrowed all the costumes and

other team ready to do so, but the budgets did not allow to make any profit fromit and thus he took lots of money as if a bribe, as if a golden chance for us so that

we may launch the TV serial, I say.

Alas, it sounds bad, did not have your family any experience in this field? he

asks.

Well, you see our family had already co-produced a film on the patriotism

around the mid of seventies. Sometimes, some people want the full credit, even

while working as an employee. You know the person in the team gave guarantee

of the production equipments so that we must produce the serial and thus pay

the costs for the borrowed equipments and the costumes. We produced itsuccessfully for about 30 episodes. After paying the half of the amount at one

stage the channel offered the cheques, as the part of the payments, but the person

involved forced others to return it so that full payments me be received. Once

they returned the cheques, the members of the channel laughed at us as if we

were the fools. They used it against us, though the court overruled it. The person

involved became revengeful, as the producers did not support his actions to earn

self-honors. One of the worst things he did was to conduct the live telecast,

which our production house was conducting at the Gurudwara, the religious

place of Sikhs. He tried to create disturbance in the production house. He gave

hundreds of missed calls to the people in the production house, sometimesthreatening. I have heard his threatening comments on the mobile, is not it

shameful, I say.

Yaw, it is shameful. Did not you earn some money from the payments, which

the channel made for the half or any number of the episodes? he says.

Well, you see as it was a costume drama and mega project, we were paying

from our pocket, the reason was simple that though the channel was offering

almost the half of the investment for each episode. We thought we should buy

our own costumes and thus we bought it, moreover all members in the family

considered not get payment for any work while doing it for the productionhouse, I say.

Gosh, it seems a risky, you could have thought before doing it, however, as the

cause and the commitment were there, you seem right, he says.

Well, it can happen anywhere, is not it, I say.

No, it happens, but it should not happen, he says.

We look at each other as if going beyond the countries and the cultures.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-VII

Hey, your family seem to have strong attitudes, is not it, he says.


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Yaw, it was the attitude that our family kept for the society. You see my father

never got any honor from the authorities, relatives and the society in the form of

finances. He even did not take his share from the property, which he shared with

four other brothers. He just said that he was learning while they took care of his

family, no share from the property, I say.

Hey, is your father belonged to a joint family? he asks.

Yaw. Moreover, he never wanted to separate from his bothers, I say.

Well, why he refused to take anything from property of the joint family, did not

court ask him to reconsider the decision? he asks.

No, it was not from the court, the family members decided it and he took his

decision and kept the word. Moreover, with getting a loan, he bought a small

land to build a house. While many people offered him property at cheap rates

telling him that the society honors the money not the ideals, he did not bother,

not even toady. The film that he co-produced, along with our family members

though young, he gave money from his earnings, played the main role of anIndian sage, but did not take a penny for it. Moreover, the film is still waiting to

for release. That was investment for social awareness and welfare. The cause was

good, but the result the usual one. He never took a loan to build the house or buy

a vehicle, like a car or so. His ideals are that are the children are the living houses

and the banks, whatever is invested, it contributes towards their development, I

say.

Wow, I like it. You see the person about whom you described took advantage of

your way of thinking and living is not it. I see. Therefore, he intentionally played

a game knowing that our family is not a professional as all are artists in it as yousaid that two of your sisters are MA in Music and the other in Theater and

Television, and you are a writer. You know, such people know how to get

advantage of and from the creative and artist people. Hey, is he a so sharp

minded? he asks.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-VIII

Yaw, you know, he has earned a great reputation in the scholarly works on the

Religions as he is well versed in the religion and mythology. He has received

many awards for it from around the world from the religious and the communalpeople. He is a comrade, the communist, who uses his knowledge on a purpose.

Those who honor him seem to promote the religions in a new shape that suits

them. He is capable of managing anything in his favor using his sharp intellect.

The name of my nephew appeared in the TV serial as an assistant producer, he

managed to remove it, I say.

Gosh, it seems as if discouraging the child is not it, he says.

I feel the same. You see he claims that he can put anybodys feet on the fire and

cause disputes in the people living in the integration. For example, he somehow

got my sisters uncle s email and as a schemer, writes such a marvelous lettersand the emails to influence people in his favor that the uncle asked why we do

not give respect and offer reverence to such a great person. On the other hand,

my father has warned him many times not to interfere in the matters of the

production house, as he is an employ not the owner. On his excessive

interference, the FIR was almost a lodged one, which was withdrawal as he

promised that he would never interfere in the production house and the matters

related to it. Thus in the international community the communalism in the

religious mask is stepping towards suppressing the creative people so that the

maximum advantage may be availed from them, I say.

Hey, you seem very bitter, do you hate it? he asks.


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No, it is the action, the foul actions, not the theory or the philosophy, I reply.

I see. The law and order is for action taken, not for the thoughts, he says.

We keep silent for a while, observing silence, knowing the humanly

burdens.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-IX

He started to speak philselfologically.

You see while the whole world is searching to solve the problems of the

pollution and survival of the life on the plant, the political parties and others

similar groups are searching the ways to earn name, fame and honor of

spreading their theories and the philosophies as the ideals for the international

community. The creative thinkers and the arts are going into such a severe

emotional problems and depressions that they have no place to appeal, as they

are humble and know how to obey the laws and the principles of the nature.

They law abiding and have Fear of God. Their feelings of reverence seem thebutter on the professional peoples breads. The professionalism seems the god of

the modern age and media as the messengers of professional peace. We as the

human need to pause and regret about the dying of the creative thinking and the

arts as it is the standard of living without it is standard of completions for

survival, the lowest level of human living. The emotional energy is dissipating

and we may claim that we are developing as the modern people, in whom the

emotions are not for creative thinking and arts, but the human weakness, as the

professional may claim. You know, I feel the same, he says.

Yaw, I agree. It harms many creative people. You see our family of artists hassome problems from the said people. One of my elder sisters eventually went on

for the medication, and thus is now dependent upon us, though she manages the

home. She is a singer, dancer, and having emotional problems, while having

treatment for it from more than 21 years, as she is not a professional woman, not

even married yet. On the other hand, one sister married, while she was a lecturer

at the college, but after two years, she led an ideal life of a single mother, now for

more than 20 years. She committed her self to social work and welfare; she

helped many poor students, as a social worker, one of among them became an

MBBS doctor and the other engineer. She has an aim of life, though creative and

the artistic, is not wonderful, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-X

Wow, it is a great point. You know what I feel it is a regretting point about the

modern age, burning the petrol in seconds that takes millions of years to come

into existence. The extinction of such global treasures seems the earnings of the

professionals. It seems the morphine of obeying God and accepting His Will is

for the sensitive and God-fearing people, while the law and order is to defend

others, who get the benefits and preach others for tolerance. The Asia is theregion, where messenger of peace of most of the religions and the faiths of the

world came to help the humanity, but now it is a place of armed forces and the

weapons and people here seem terrorists, though most of them seem to defend

the ancient way of living. Unfortunately, it does not seem to support the modern

science, technology, industry and trade, which is spreading the pollution, which

may remain on the globe for thousands of years to come, child dying, while the

elders are living a better life, is not it, he says.

Yaw, you see it is irony of the modern age. The freedom of abortion I say.

Hey, are you against abortion? he asks.


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Well, you see I am not talking about the controversial point of the abortion, my

point is different, and I am talking about the vitality and the fertility. You see we

seem to have made the life low in fertility as the species are having lesser count

in the food chain. The females, like earth, when they go through abortions, it

damages the health, the males cannot experience it. It is same with the sensitive

people; the professionals may not experience the abortion of emotions and the

damaged sensitivity. However, time is a good healer, we will slowly learn the

ethics, laws and the principles of nature slowly to live happy and the natural life,

as we learning to eat less sweets and the salts, is not it, I say.

Yaw, it seems that as a social worker and research worker, you simply want to

say that without the modern developments the world could have been a natural

place, without any pollution and high greed for money, as if the grabbing level.

It is regrettable that while there are certain people or the communities, which are

labeled as the terrorists, though they seek their identity as a member of world

family. The aborigines and the other ancient along with the natural way of livingfrom thousands of years seem an anti-modern and antisocial as the

modernization does not seem to accept that all wish to preserve the cultures and

the customs. The pornography on the Internet does not help the human

civilization to become civilized, this one of the factor, which if one opposes seems

a backward. However, there is a need to pause and think about it; is not it, he

says.

He looks at me, we pause and remember our past, we know it is same; the

difference is only in the name and the place, not the experiences.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XI

Well, you see we have to keep going, I say.

Yaw, I agree. Please tell me more about your projects in the media, could you

manage the finances for your new project or the previous ones, which your

family wants to accomplish? he says.

I am trying, you know, in our family efforts, I managed the entire project

financially right from the beginning. The channel, which broadcasted it, is not

paying it from last more than five years, though the court has sent it legal

notices. If it has invested it in the bank, it would have been double by now. If itwas in the circulation of the production house, it could have been a different

story. The project for which it had an investment was more than half million of

US dollar as reported in the court in the Patiala. Our company at Mumbai the

Universal Creative Vision is facing a financial crisis. However, we have

recovered a lot by paying back our debits and loans. I would share that lack of

money has blocked my 25 general and 25 childrens books, which are in waiting

to be published, I say.

Well, you know, if you appeal as you do, it would seem as if you want to

manipulate others emotionally, is not it, he says.Yaw, I feel so, however, I am sharing it because the person, who earned such a

great honor internationally and lead a noble life is suffering just because the

people cheat such people. Such a great people serve humanity and their children

suffer, as the social competition is different from the playground. The social

ethics are different and difficult as the true living is. You see for the projects, we

did not have money, except my fathers retirement funds and the pension.

Therefore, I managed loans and other financial arrangements for the project. The

loans are still there, we are recovering, as the channel has not yet obeyed the

orders of the Mumbai court, I say.

Why do not you appeal to the higher authorities? he says.


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He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XII

You see the appeals to the authority have no results. The authorities seem to

have a great influence from the international business community, the

professional, whose main aim is to earn money by any means. It seems a

regretting for us, as the democracy may not be able to solve any global problem,

no matter in whatever form. We have the pollution as the governing body owned

by those, who seem to spread it helplessly, separating people from natural and

the healthy life is not it, I say.

Well, you see we cannot always claim that it does not matter, sometimes, I

matters, is not it, he says.

Yaw, you see as a result of all of these incidents, the athlete is, my father, now

bed ridden. He is having problems with heart and at the end of 2005 a paralytic

kind of attack, the clot in the brain, though recovering, I say.What a shame, you know I just wish we could accept it that after all we are

humans, whether in the east or the west, is not it, he says.

I agree. You see he has served for more than three and half decades as a

professor in the government college of education. His contribution is not just for

home country, I say.

Well, you see, please do not mind it; you seem a silly kind person. Is not there

anything that you can do? he says.

Please, do be so mean, we all are silly, when we face troubles, which we have

not caused, is not it, I say.He gives a silly look and we smile as a child.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XIII

My philosophy, psychology and knowledge about self make me say some

rough words, though it is from the bitter experiences. I share it with him.

You see for me my personal life is more important than money. I am a silly kind

of person always going ahead with my aims and researches. Money is a need not

the greed; it helps some people. I do not want it free. The works that I do are

from real life experiences. I have been studying from 1976 to till today, as in 2006;

I got my Ph.D. in Alternative Medicines. I went to study Australia for Ph.D. as ayoung person with a dream, but my scholarship was having trouble of the

phasing out because I was the single Indian studying there in 1989-90. It was a

decision from the authorities as the mutual help between India and Australia did

not include the education section for that year. I suffered a lot and finished my

graduation in six years, though not failing or leaving any gap year in my

studies, I say.

I see. You have gone through family and social problems, but do not worry, the

efforts count not the success, he says.

Yaw. Even then, the financial problem and the family disgrace, and the channelplaying a game gave my father a heart problem, which he recovered, though

there were only 20% chances for his recovery. Thanks to the relevant doctors. I

know how terrible it was for my father in 2005, he got clot in the brain, and the

result was the paralysis on the right side. He is recovering, though bed ridden.

The national hero is struggling for the idealism. My going to study needed

money, it was again loan, as the scholarship was subsidized one. It was disgrace

for our family as after years of honor as the topper of the school going abroad

and getting no further scholarship, while the family was not able to afford it, I

say.

Do you regret still? he asks.


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You know, you are more than a silly, is not it, so timid, he says.

Timid, no, I do not agree. You see if I obeyed the authorities, it does not mean

that I had evil thoughts making me afraid of applying. The feelings of the

reverence are not timidity, I say.

Well, you did not go for your cause, you followed your emotions and vales, is

not it, he says.

He gave me sympathetic look, and I could understand that at times, the

cultural difference creates problems. I just smile. He did not smile.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XVI

He becomes serious about the issues we discussed.

Well, you know the social suppression seem to have caused the global

depression and degeneration as the kids dying while the professional seem to

claim that they are doing everything for the next generations. You see it seems an

irony, which needs a personal attention as a citizen to check whether there is anysignificant contribution towards the balance of biorhythm of nature, which helps

all to live a happy and the health life. When one considers about these global

issues for a moment we may ignore what one is, rich, poor, officer, civilian or

whatever, is not it, he says.

I agree. You see for me as a member of human community, it appears that such

people disgrace the true religions and the humanism, as if one turns religious

places into a five star hotels. They tend to change the universal laws and the

principles present in the Religion, Divinity, Mysticism and Philosophies of the

human wisdom. The purpose of these universal laws and the principles is topromote that sense of equality is the way to achieve the humanly goal of

superego guiding our egos. The feelings of reverence to preserve the ethics and

the values for the selfless state of the ego seem the aim of better civilization, is

not it, I say.

Well, it sounds interesting, is not it disturbing the natural life with ego, he

says.

Yaw, you see it seems to me that once one tries to disturb it, the appearing

motives seem to degenerate the world order for better civilization with peaceful

living. The selflessness seems the original state of the ego, giving us the creativity

so that we avoid criticizing others as if judging others and not contributingtowards the human civilization through the creative thinking and the arts, like

singing. The simple example is that most of the people cannot sing classical

music or like it, even the normal singing seems disappearing. We seem to

suppress the original and depend on the artificial. However, it is just a

temporary phase, as the nature cannot allow anyone to disturb the universal

biorhythm, is not it, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XVII

I agree. You see the most important point is that our future generations may not

pay homage to the works that has caused such a high level of pollution, violence

and hatred. The corruption creation seems rapidly and most spreading in all

spheres, while violating the balance of nature is worse than any kind of

terrorism. We may claim that we have developed a lot in the modern age.

However, the amazing point is that no one can personally claim that it is a great

achievement for the biorhythm of nature and the health of all living ones on the

planet. However, publicly, we seem to claim to have brought peace with

violence. We seem to be proud of what we have rather than what we are. It

seems a power play, the kids learning to fight for peace, is not it, he says.


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Yaw, I agree I reply.

All right, then did you refuse all offers? he asks.

Yaw, I refused it, so they seemed to go against my views. They are influential

people, who seem to influence the decisions, which the authorities take by

appealing as a group as I observe many cases, in which people were getting the

illegal help through this process. The Australian immigration office at Adelaide

verbally said that they would send a file of my case to the Australian high

Commission at New Delhi. I believed it and returned to India. When I met the

concerned immigration officer, he said that I was making fool of me. It seemed as

if one wins the lottery on the Internet and finally gets nothing. I even then lodged

and application for migration, but the refusal was there, I say.

Well, it seems sad, you could have tried elsewhere, he says.

I did, you see I applied for scholarships in Canada and New Zealand after it,

however I could not get it though I was eligible, I say.

Never worry or panic, we know, our countries have some official problems,while dealing with such issues, he says.

I wish world could have been a single nation, I say.

The countries and the cultures seem more important at times. He could

have words, but he does not say anything, as we know such matters and issues,

as the humans.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XVIII

Our airplane goes ignoring the countries and the cultures, while inside it,

we are talking and discussing.You see it happens, what did you do then, when you failed in your efforts? he

asks.

Well, then I did my bets to fulfill the condition specified in the immigration

processes. After completion of my graduation, I applied again. The refusal was

because I do not have work experience, though I presented that I have been

tutoring for years, but it was not relevant. Then one of my friend happen to select

me for the position of a tutor, however when I approached the High

Commission, he was having a trouble that why he offered a job to me, without

publishing it first in the newspapers, I say.

Gosh, you know for the authorities there are many such cases, whosoeverrequests seems to pretend to appeal on the humanitarian grounds, claiming as if

they are professionally skilled to get the philanthropic funds and the sympathy

from them. The closed files seem as if burying the person alive. The file does not

represent a person; rather the person represents it. The peace in the files does not

make the library a peace activation center. We may consider it, as the counties

and the cultures becoming one, while ignoring that the subconscious mind do

not usually accept it, is not it. Well, did get any reply from your friend offering

you the job? he asks.

Yaw, you know, even then he sent a letter, that if my ever migrate I can availthe job. I completed my work experience, and then another objection was there

that I do not have first class degree. It was the end of the third application. I

finished there fourth requirement as I obtained the additional subject Education

passed in 1996-97, I say.

Did not anybody send any supporting letter for you migration to Australia? he

asks. Well, you see there was a letter of appeal from the senior and honorable

citizens from Australia that the law is ruining my career, they assured the

responsibility for me, and offering all possible help for my living. I started to feel

as if I have become a victim of some kind of international propaganda, in which

none can help me. Though it may be a false assumption, however, I never got


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reply from the High Commission about any request. All the appeals from the

honorable citizens failed to avail even a reply from the Australian High

Commission at New Delhi, I reply.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XIX

What a shame, did you visit Australia after some years? he asks.

I could have. You see my friends send me a sponsor letter to visit and meet my

friends and deliver lectures. Then I did not have enough desire and funds, so I

could not go, I say.

I just wonder about it, your friends could have managed some other legal way,

is not it, he says.

You know, they did what one can do. You see one of the Australian girls, whom

I treated as a sister, offered three times, even after my coming back to India that I

should marry her just to get the PR in Australia. However, the reason I say,though people laugh, that I requested her that it is not our custom and my

conscience does not allow accepting such proposal. The sister remains a sister,

though for some people it does not matter, I say.

Wow, it is exceptional; she wanted to help you out of the way. It is up to our

voice of conscience, is not it, he says.

Yaw, I always remember that such people are beyond the cultures and the

countries, they are the universal people, I say.

He hears, looks at me, we smile as a human.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XX

His Philselfological words allow our discussion to proceed.

Well, you are right. You see it appears that authorities in the west seem to

believe that the value system of East appears to be spreading the terrorism and

crime globally. It may be the cause that like preserving it seems against the

modern age of professionalism. It is a ninth wonder of the history that there are

no discussions among the terrorists and the authorities. They commit crime as if

appealing that they also belong to the families and the world community. Theparent wait for their child to become a good civilian, we seem to have the need of

it, the concept of not separating any human from the world family. This is global

separatists movement, which seems legalized. The worst level is that we are

separating our self from the nature, while going towards the artificial or people

in the west usually call it, the plastic behavior. Now, the modern person would

claim that the term Mother Nature is a sexiest term. This is a separatists

statement. We take birth, grow, survive and die in nature; it is an attribute the

Mother Nature, is not it, I say.

Well, the word mother is for creativity, is not it, he says.Yaw, as if some people accept a great person as the god father, I say.

I can understand you see it is fighting for the words, attributes and metaphors

without feeling it. I see. Is not it a trauma between east and the west? he says.

Yaw, you see this entire trauma seems as if the people in the East are just victim

of international political, diplomatic, communal and religious propaganda. They

seem to make a person to get the best possible advantage as if they plan the

future of the individuals like me. I feel that there are international lobbies, which

may use or abuse any person for any of their motive, naming it the utilitarian

theory and a good cause for international community, is not it, I say.


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He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXI

Well, it simply seems a cultural gap between east and the west, isnt it, he says.

Yaw, it is just a cultural gap. You see I may be wrong, but just wonder and feel

ashamed of such propagandas as a human. I always remained a topper in the

school and worked sincerely to learn English to study abroad as I was a student,

who studied in Punjabi as the medium of instructions for until grade 10. I

managed on my own to go to study abroad after sincere studies and efforts for

more than three years. I never ever have tome even to visit my relatives during

my student life at school. I start to meet them after the age of 23 or 24 years. I

wonder if they can label anybody a terrorist, pretender or a common person

trying to take typical steps to become a unique and a renowned person. When

we all are suffering globally, what is the use and taste of name, fame and money,

which cannot heal the nature, the pollution and diseases, even if we invest all the

treasures present on earth for it, is not it, I say.Well, you see it is question of great importance that when there were

movements against the modern scientists and medical practitioners, they had to

take refuge in Asia, and now this continent seems the house of pollution. When

anyone dies whether a soldier or a terrorist, it is global suffering. It seems a

sincere need for doing research concerning it, not just releasing of white papers

or clean chits or the slip of no objection, is not it. You see we may pause and

think whether we are the healers or the dealers for world peace. There does not

seem any cause to separate anyone from the world family, is not it, he says.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXII

You are right. You know, the Indian Philosophy says that the only person, the

one, who may be a terrorist, is the one who does not contribute towards the

preservation and the natural development of nature. These are having the name

of the Asuras, the creator of pollution at various levels, but particularly in the

nature. The Asurta is word for creating the disharmony in the nature, including

in the food chain and the survival of the life. The modern term of terrorist does

not seem appropriate in this context. The political terrorism thus is ruling with

the theory of the divide and rule, which is not ideal for any country, what theglobal need seems is that unite and serve, the ideal of the political and governing

philosophies of any political party in the world, is not it, I say.

Well, you seem to point something in it, what is it? he asks.

You are right. You know, the reason for expressing it is that the woman, I mean

Mrs. Peggy Mooney, who advised me not to lodge an application for PR, while I

was studying in Australia, revealed horrific facts. When she came to India along

with her husband, she confessed that her husband, Mr. Christopher Singh

Mooney had submitted such an allegation against me, that I was almost a

blacklisted person in the official files. How I would be having a treat in mymotherland after he confirmed such allegations is a dream of the Dark Age,

which he would claim. It seems as if his vision fulfilled as he earned a lots of

name, fame and reputation and disgraced my family and me as well, while

pretending to be our wishing well for us, while visiting us as a guest to support

us. He made a comment that the Golden Temple was far away, which meant that

I should never dream to go back to Australia, and thus I lost many good friends

in Australia. Those, who are his friends, do not like to communicate with me as if

I am a traitor to Australia and perhaps to India as well. I say.

He looks at me and we understand that life shapes the flow of each

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He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXIII

After a silence, we have few words.

Gosh, what is the use of such points, did he really impose an allegation? he

asks.

Yaw, you see he alleged that I might be a terrorist, he happened to get two or

more witnesses intentionally. She said, though she gave hint of it while in

Australia, that if I try to get PR by any means I will face troubles due this

allegation. The person, whom he referred as a terrorist along with me is, at

present, one of the most renowned preacher and scholar of Sikhism, well in fact,

the preacher Giani Thakur Singh is my real brother, one can view his profile as

www.gurbaniupdesh.org/index.php. Mr. Christopher Singh Mooney labeled me

as terrorist just because I am his brother. Her wife confessed that her husband,

Mr. Mooney wanted to a be saint as he earned a lot of good will and fame asbecoming a Sikh from a Christian or just a white person. She said he wants that

people should honor him as if they honor other saints in India, I say.

Well, you see it is a normal human nature. I see he is taking advantage of his

being Australian, western, white and a Sikh, so it is easy for him to convince

anyone that I am wrong. The people, who do not get the desired recognition,

may go for such short cuts. These are the legalized separatists spreading the

global movement against all human civilizations and others smaller units in it.

They need to smile, the annoyed person seems terrorist, but after all one is a

human. We do not even seem to offer opportunities that one may change, is notit, he says.

You see even the worst may occur. I must add that if one ever has any

allegation in a foreign country, the home country would naturally accept the

person as a suspected. However, the same person approached the Indian

authorities about proving his allegation that I may be an anti-social persona that

they should treat him a dedicated and devoted to India. The reason for it is that

when I arrived back to India, the same spiritual person, whom he asked about

me, informed me. The spiritual person from the internationally renowned place,

the Gobind Sadan at New Delhi to told me that before I arrived, two

investigators visited him to know more about me. He ensured them that theallegations by the Australian person, Mr. Christopher Singh Mooney were self-

assumed and on purpose, as he was getting the great honors from the politicians,

public and the media. Moreover, he also taught in the Yadwindra Public School

Patiala, and most of the people believe that he works for the Australian

Investigation and or Scrutiny system and thus is an officer, living a life of a Sikh

to intrude into the Indian, Asian and other cultures to complete his works. One

of couple a ETO and his wife, who retired as a professor from the Womans

College Patiala also found him as a very suspicious person, while he was there

paying guest and doing his teaching job at the Yadwindra Public School, I said.So, he is part of the global team of genocide, who intrudes in other countries for

cultural disintegration and creates disputes among the regional people based on

religions and faiths, he says.

It may be, who knows, I say.

We remembered the history of the world.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXIV

Well, what kind of reputation does he seek? he asks.


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He wanted to earn a reputation of a saint, as if he can read anybody as a book

and is a great research scholar, who may explore the Indian civilization. You see,

while at the same time having guts to claim and blame that one is a criminal or a

terrorist. I was sure that I have never committed any crime, so I did not affect me,

the false information, though the shock was severe largely. I wonder if the

international agencies of the vigilance, Interpol police and the other similar

investigation teams would accept claims from such people as the reliable and the

valid just because they represent the developed countries or work for some

international propaganda. I regret about the silence that the Australian

authorities observed on it, I say.

Hey, you know it may seem blaming someone to get sympathy for your self, is

not it. I see. However, the gap that is developing between east and the west

needs attention. The armies and the terrorists seem going abroad, as if there is an

international program of exchange. Have the military training, there is a

common ground missing, and it is accepting all as the members of the worldfamily. I am afraid you seem over emphatic and overbearing, is not it, he says.

Well, it may be. You know the emphatic and creatively critic letters of appeal to

the Australian authorities did not get any attention, as they seemed to have a

permanent attitude towards me. It may be that my letters would have served the

recyclable process, from the rubbish bin to bond papers, which express the global

love and affection to ruin a human for just with few witnesses. The woman, who

supported my cause, said that if God is present in the universe He must help me.

My classmates at the university wanted to agitate and protest for my appeal, but

I requested them not to do so. The authorities were so determined that my fee ofsecond semester was getting late, they asked the university not to allow me

finish even the first year of studies, but the university refused it. They said that it

is not ethical and goes against the reputation of the university. They allowed me

to continue studies even after 15 years, just ended in 2006, it was the last

comment from the career counselor at the university, and that time is over now. I

remember that in the presence of many people, the enquiry office of immigration

and the ethnic affairs shouted at me asking if I had been to Australia for studies

or for PR, I say.

Well, it does not sound fine. You see one does not deserve conviction, he says.

Yaw, I agree. You know, I signed a document before leaving for studying until Ipass, under all circumstances; I had to come back as per the conditions of the

scholarship of the subsidized quota. One does not need personal interference.

The west is not heaven for which people need to be having the treat like this. It

disgraces both, the authorities and the people in concern. The people in the west

have sorrows and the pains as all the other people in the world. It seems to me,

you may have different opinion, I say.

I agree. However, the opinions do constitute the countries and the cultures, is

not it, he says.

We know that experiences constitute it, so we observe silence.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXV

Well, the natural way of living as you wish is heaven, not the place or the

facilities, is not it, he says.

I agree. You see it was a disgrace such that I even refused to accept the

permanent job letter for 5 to 15 years from the Scientology office, as a counselor

as I considered finishing my studies in India. The person Jeff interviewed me and

offered this job. I thank God that He saved me from the international communal


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lobby war, the sweet fruit giving the bitterness at the end. I worked at the

farmhouses in the summer holidays, but they offered me only the one fourth of

the wages for 14 hours work for about two months. However, they have great

communal and social respect and reputation as they serve the nation. They gave

me paper to sign that I have received 100% wages and I signed it, they were

happy as the Christmas gift was sweeter from the student in need, I say.

Well, it seems common, it happens, do not worry. One day, you achieve more

than you sow, just sow the seeds honestly. Did you take legal advice? he says.

Yaw, I would share that the lawyers asked me to appeal in the court against the

decision taken by the Australian authorities ruining my health and career, but I

kept it a silence as they would have taken another serious action as the

authorities can produce any evidence even if all people support, they know how

find the truth. It appears right that never believe a person with beard is an

international logo, not just national saying of Australia, is not it, I say.

Well, you know, as English is your third language and perhaps the level may beof the second or first language, sometimes you seem to speak roughly and

toughly, is not it, he says.

Yaw, I agree. Well, think by all of your heart, body, mind and soul, it seems

true. These people with beard are the naturalists, whom some people and times

many, usually do not accept until after their death. One point is that natural life

is accepting that one is gong to die one day, the truth, which one cannot ignore. It

makes a naturalist live as if one waits for the smile, which one would like to see

on every face, not just a child. The naturalist lives like a child, is not it, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXVI

Well, I can understand that the time, energy and money that my family invested

in my going abroad happily to get Ph. D. and become a lecturer in your home

country went to the deposits as if a forced donation. The airfares, visa fee and so

on. Your working in Australia and the income you had went to the fee and living

expenses. The studies at the university did not get any recognition in India, is not

it, he says.

You are right, thus, my family had to afford for three more years so that I maycomplete my graduation. The entire process for study turned into a disgrace and

wastage of time, energy and money as well. After getting so late and waiting

some attention from the Australian authorities, I could not get any job. For how

long one can, study is a question in such adverse conditions. I wonder if it was

an experiment, the scientist performs on the animals like the rats. I had to go

through medication after 1996 as it was beyond human body, mind and heart to

bear it. Even the worst person in the jail gets the opportunity to study. I wonder

if I am a hardcore and hardheaded criminal, perhaps, they may be right, who

knows the truth, the authorities and the media has the power to prove anything,as they want to. It seems the best gift we are offering to nature as a thanksgiving,

though it is spreading the thought pollution, is not it, I say.

Even then I would say you are a silly, expecting as if a mother waits for return

of her son, who drowned in the sea while traveling. Does one prepares for years

that after 20 years, when one will be overage, and would appeal, resulting that

those, who never helped would rush to help. This usually does not happen. The

human nature usually follows the theory of selfish gene. There are a few people

and they always help as if the cause is common. Otherwise, the people leave a

comment labeling it as the attempt of a common person, is not it, he says.

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I say and he gives a humanly look, the east meeting the west for humanly

causes.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXVII

He is asks me sincerely to say something.

Well, is it barking at the wrong door? he says.

Yaw, I remember, it is as if barking at the wrong door. Well, in any case, I made

sincere efforts to get my B. Ed. and other higher qualifications, though at least I

got Ph. D. (AM), but the honor I aimed for to get Ph. D., but the offered was the

allegation, which is still a mystery. Had I been a western person, the authorities

would have shown the international standards of living that an individual would

need. However, as they claim I still pretend to offer thanksgiving to God, which

does not need their approval, I wonder if the religion, humanism and other

human values are just to preserve in the libraries as the mummies are in theEgypt. The wastage of my prime time of youth for more than twenty years

remains a tribute to all those, who accepted Will of God as above the human

conspiracies and international network of dominance in most of the creative

fields. You see in which the media does not offer the publicity showing the live

telecast how the great people donate and offer pity on the needy and the poor

without any way of exposure. It seems as of such people do not belong to world

family, is not it, I say.

Well, I would name it the movement of separatist worse than terrorism, in

which the creative or people are separated from the international community. Itseems a disgrace, if we consider it as a human, is not it, he says.

Yaw, it sounds funny as if a person or a patient in hospital should not weep, cry

or scream, because it may disturb the other patients. This controlled silence to

help the authorities can just make one take medication help and it usually

happens. I know a girl, who wanted to live like a nun, she gave the land, money

and personal support to build a school, in return she got allegations, and finally

attempted suicide, went on to medication. I was in the investigation team of the

trust, which runs the school, but ultimately due to pressure from the seniors, she

could not get any justice. However, she improved and settled, while setting an

example for others, is not a great lesson to learn, I say.Yaw, indeed she has set an example for the youth. Still, the gap between the east

and the west remains a challenge, is not it, he says.

Yaw, it seems so, you see the other false claim that appears to make the Indians

victims is that many people in India do not choose to make girl or the boy

friends, the way people do in the west. It seems an odd point in the character of

the Indians, I said.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXVIII

Hey, wait a minute, it is a personal matter, and many people in the west do not

want to have girl or boy friend, if you do not prefer it, leave it. Anyway, why are

you making this point exceptionally important? he asks.

Well, you see I realized it when the stepfather of a girl seemed to make me give

a look if I interact with girls and others with such motives. The entire idea of

playing the cricket as the pretenders game is not the way one needs as a

substitute, while seeking prayers and the blessings from the elders. I encountered

some incidents similar to it. The Indian people usually express compassion,

which appears passion as it is to care and the cultural differences make the

wrong impressions. The caring seems a taking a step to make someone friend or


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disturb emotionally. When any Indian goes with a purpose, the romance or

emotional involvements is not o the agenda, is not it, I say.

You seem right, what about the nuns and others, who remain unmarried, are

they from India? he asks.

You are funny, you see this is a global phenomenon such that the research

scholars do not want to involve in such matters interfering in their works. These

are of no importance, while considering the global problems. I would appeal on

behalf of all Indians and people of the others nations that people doing research

works need care as the stamped passport bears the name of the Head of the

nation to deal the person as one is, I say.

All right, it is so, but how do you express your opinion about the gap between

east and the west about this concern? he asks.

Well, you see I study the global matters and the difference between

professionalism in the west and the carefree, the nonprofessional life in the east

about who rules the nation or the world seems to give an impression that allreligious and philanthropic people, who suffered for world as a family makes

them Messiahs or saviors of the world. However, their teachings usually become

the source of income, the profession, rather than a personal contribution for

peace and welfare of all, is not it, I say.

He lifts his hand and gives a scout salute and I do the same.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXIX

We continue our discussion.Yaw, you know, the wise person never interferes when one requests to grant

some humanly care. This person, he just represents what one can do with getting

help from the authorities and or the public, is not it, he says.

Yaw, but some people do not want to follow the idealism. You know, while I

was ready to give the exam of entrance test for B. Ed, he arrived at my home a

day before and insisted that he wanted blessings from the saint. I told him that

my exam was just near, but he insisted, thinking that it was a good cause; I took

him to meet the saint. On the way, back he criticized him saying as if he knows

everything. I just missed my B. Ed studies due to fatigue as I received 120.5 score,

five students got admission on it and the others above. He says that Indians goabroad only for money. He kept on damaging me by different means, though the

spirituals told him that it was not a good work as he sought to know more about

me from a spiritual person at Delhi. His wife told me, that even though he

warned him not to impose any allegation, but he did what he aimed for. The

spiritual person warned me to be beware of him as the motives of such people is

for name and fame, while disgracing others just to prove that they have the holy

spirit working through them and they are the messengers of God, I say.

Well, it is a common point nowadays, when the common causes are absent, it

replaces, is not it. Did you find any other odd point during your going throughsuch odd experiences? he says.

Yaw, you see the other fact is that the communal people helped a person to get

a refugee status during those days of terrorism in the Punjab; he visited

intentionally to confirm that I might have links with such people. The religious

society supported him, claming that he was the son-in law of the Sikh General

of Indian army, which the authorities seemed to have accepted. I have heard it; I

cannot give witness and the only thing I know is that he was just an auto driver

at New Delhi. I regret that he did his best to earn name, fame and honor. In such

cases, it is natural to assume that these matters are international propaganda. The

VIP kind of communal people in religious mask help such causes may ruin


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anyone, who requests that the religions are for equality not for personally

invested, motives, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXX

Gosh, I wonder that one day they may claim everybody a terrorist, who says

that there is a difference between a picnic place and the worship place. I would

like to share that such people spread a kind of terrorism, which is passive in

nature. I would seek you pray that our earth be free from such human greed for

name, fame and money as it changes human into ash. The burning candles

always melt, is not it, he says.

Yaw, I believe, the prayer to learn to live in the present can surely help. You see

the loopholes, which promote the terrorism and other social activities are present

when there is support from the various communities in the world supporting

people, without getting any proper information. The authorities need morescrutiny before accepting the pressure from the communal or ethnic groups, I

say.

Well, why do not you share your ideas with your friends or others? he says.

You know, during my studies in Australia, I wrote letters to USA and some

others authorities about helping the genuine cases, in which one follows the laws

and the principles of nature for solving the personal, social and the global

problems, while doing my research work on this theme on my own based on the

comparative religious studies and Metaphysics. However, I did not get a

response. Then around the middle of nineties, I proposed a research report on itand around in year 2000, had the opportunity to discuss these matters with the

President Bill Clinton, however I could reach there, I say.

It sounds interesting, but who is going to believe it? he says.

Funny, I say.

Anyway, what was the reason for not going? he asks.

Well, it was not just lack of the funds. It seems that intentionally opposition was

there due to similar reasons, as there are many NGOs and other fund raising

people, who do some works to get money from the UNO or allied or the similar

donors. I wonder if all of these people work together to manipulate international

community. He even supported some people to migrate to USA showing thatthey are born in the village, though they live in the metro cities. They never

hesitate to play a game with sensitive people. However, my research paper was

read at the Washington, DC, I say.

Wow, do you have a copy of that paper? he asks.

Yaw, I will email it to you, can you give me your email address, I ask.

Yaw, take this card, anyway what about writing books on your works? he

says.

Thanks, you see about these issues I have written almost 50 books, I say.

Gosh, I cannot believe it, why do not you publish it, you know it is having thevision of No Child Left Behind, what we know as NCLB, is not it, he asks.

Yaw, it is about NCLB, I hope it will publish in the future, I say.

Good Luck, he says.

Thanks, I reply.

We look into each others eyes with bright hope for future.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXI

He all of a sudden asks.

Hey, why do not you approach the authorities? he asks.


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Gosh, I wish I could. You know, I am an introvert and reserved person, who

needs privacy do the research works. I do not aim for fame or limelight. I lost the

charm to migrate, but worked sincerely about writing the contents and the

books. You know, it appears that such people or lobbies are stronger, though not

than the goodness, that is present in many forms. The natural life gives the

personal joy whether we face sorrows, pains and or joys. I seek prayers, blessings

and good wishes for it, I say.

Well, I offer my prayers for you, he says.

We sit silently for sometime.

Who taught you about these topics? he asks.

You see my father taught us about all religions of the world. My research works

and the books focus on the common thread present among the religions and the

other philosophies of the world, I say.

All right, simply describe the human weakness to earn the feelings of reverence

from others, some people do the same with power, money and dominance, whathave you experienced? he asks.

Well, I would like to share with people helping people that in India, the Reiki

masters practice it and they are honored a lot. The reason that people touch

elders feet in India, have the same cause and reason, which the communal

people, who wants to be VIPs as said above, oppose. Touching the feet of a

revered person is just to earth the negative energy present within; mystically,

though the Indian Religions ask not to seek that others should do it, but out of

humbles, one may do so. People touch their feet to surrender to receive the

maximum faith in them. These Reiki masters usually renounce the worldly joysand become saints. Indian sages, Rishis, Munis and other spirituals, thus earn

lot of honor. This is feeling of reverence for their philanthropic works and

selflessly helping the sick and needy. He wanted to enjoy that status, without

earning any level or mastery in the Reiki, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXII

Well, wait a minute, why do you repeat one human as a symbol for your

experiences, do not you believe that anybody can do it? he asks.

You are right. It can be anybody, and there are many, is not it, I say.Yaw, what was it? he asks.

Well, you see his wife confessed that he would never succeed in such

pretending image of a saint. She blessed me that his allegations one day will

disappear as a fog, which the authorities accepted so authentically. As a research

scholar, I understand that such diplomatic tactics are people, whom others may

use for some self-invested purposes, as my saying it now after 15 years would

have been the anticipated result. I sincerely salute to her and other people in

Australia, who always offer prayers for me, send blessings and good wishes. One

of my Christian friends, the enlightened soul, Mr. Sione Koloi, said before I leftAustralia that it was a Gods Plan for me that I would have to go through it.

However, I am in the flesh not a spirit, saint or an angel, I say.

Well, it is good, did he offer you some help? he asks.

Yaw, he wanted me to study in the National University of Canberra, for which

he offered me to pay my fee, I say.

Why did not you accept it? he asks.

Well, you see I was not aware that I would be facing such an adverse situation,

he left to Canberra, but with a hope that one day I will succeed, I always

remember and thank him, I said.


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He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXIII

What do you seek now? he asks.

Well, my sincere request for help is that I not able to get a scholarship for

submission and getting the doctoral. I have spent about 20 years serving the

human community philanthropically. While doing this I have become a non-

professional person. Now, anybody can laugh at my father, family and me as

well saying "see this family and the members have set an example trying to be

honest, let us not copy him and ruin our career as they have done. The one of

the reason is that after studying for 30 years, I did not get a reputed job or

become a rich person, well rich means I did not earn as I and or anybody, in my

condition is supposed to be, that is, a good earner... The concept of getting rich

seems a as if doing a fraud when it comes with eastern people living in west.

However, we are habitual of hearing such comments. Perhaps, the elder and

senior people wanted to teach us a lesson, though not in the education, worksand playgrounds, yet socially. I congratulate all those, who selected us to go

through such tough times and still blaming as if we are living the schizoid world

as if one is a schizophrenic or eccentric. Now, they have succeeded to prove it

and we have failed to be like them. This seems to have caused the global

professionalism of the ethics and the universal values of the laws and the

principles of nature present in the true religion, philanthropy and humanism, I

say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXIV

Well, you see your father got the fame internationally; produced a TV serial the

first ever in the regional language. The fame is not your need. All members of

your family are internationally known, but are not professional, is not it, he

says.

Yaw, you see the lectures are delivered gave lot honor, however, I had to sign

that I do not need TA, DA and other funds for it. I delivered lectures of 3 to 4

hours duration and workshops for full day, but without getting money. I just

wanted it for research. I cannot ask for money. Asking for scholarship is a

different issue, begging money or seeking financial aid is different too. Thescholarship is just an honor if one can earn it, is not it, I say

Well, so you just want to express that if you qualify for any scholarship one may

help, otherwise just ignore it, please always remember as there are millions of

students, who do not even get a chance to enter a university, is not it, he says.

Yaw, I agree, I say.

We feel the same feelings about the future of the next generations.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXV

Well, my dear, you need some prayers from your close ones, he says.

Yaw, you are right, I would sincerely request that it is not to offend anybody, if

it does to anyone, I would regret and request that life is having a Gods Plan for

all of us and we follow it naturally, though sometimes requests are like the

prayers. It is same for making this appeal. Well, there is one point that makes one

to appeal it is as if a request that we all share problems. However, God creates

solution for all problems that we ever face. The efforts count not the success, as

you said. The people, who feel or believe, that by cheating or emotionally

blackmailing one succeeds in the modern age are wrong because the ethics and

the values change the world, which otherwise degenerates it to suit the self-


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invested motives. I would encourage all of the people in problems of any kind

that we need a spirit, the enthusiasm, the God within us to obtain the success.

However, we need one anothers help to do so, such that the brokers of human

emotions may not have deadly affects on the way we live and think, is not it, I

say.

Thanks for sharing you should be proud that though you have described many

odd situations, our family members have not left the path, the hope, is not it, he

says.

Yaw, I would like name it as a sharing with those, who feel that the evil may

destroy their lives, just keep hopes, I would request. During these all of these

odd times, I have managed to carry all of my works. I would like to request again

that have designed the nine to twelve years curriculum for this purpose with

more than 25 books and another set of the same for the children, so it is about 50

books in all; two are published on it. Some students enrolled for it, the first one

was the Canadian teacher. Due to lack of the proper platform it could notbecome the part of our society for education, research developments for the

community, the research, it is my hobby to, and I have done lots of research

work on it, I say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXVI

Well, you see the prima factor is that you need guidance about how you would

get a postgraduate degree with some financial aid or rather the fee waiver. You

do not seek financial aid as a donation, is not it, he says.Yaw, I am waiting that someone may advice me about how I can achieve my

goal of getting what I seek as I want to submit my thesis, though approved in

many university, however the funds are not available. You see all of my thesis

works are ready for the submission for the postgraduate degrees like the MA/M.

Phil/Ph. D/D. Sc. and for publications as well. It may be good help for me that I

get the degree with full financial aid for any of these degrees from the concerned

institution. You may laugh, as I usually do that it simply means obtaining the

degree without paying the fee on the online or the otherwise. I may submit the

thesis in for many degrees, but I need just one or two the MA and Doctoral, I

say.Wow, why not five or ten, he says.

Perhaps Having the degrees work as if one is having a license in some parts

of the world, I say.

We laugh, knowing that the counties have some cultural differences.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXVII

He feels bit eager.

Did you make it a subject matter for future use? he asks.Yaw, you see the research work on a subject matter, Philselfology, the new

subject for kids and youngster to do research works, it is philanthropic research

work, the learning of practical side of knowledge and wisdom. I have been

conducting many workshops, seminars, camps from 1991, particularly from 1996

when I started to do so for the universities, I delivered about 500 hundred

lectures in the universities receiving the letters of appreciation, and went to rural

schools and other institutions to continue my research with workshops and

lectures, I say.

Wow, I like it, did you earn a lot? he asks.


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No, you see all of it has been from my own pocket. My research work

completed successfully, but I have become somewhat a non-professional kind of

person as I invested a lot in the projects without any output financially. I made a

complete project on the Philselfology with an approved pilot episode, in which,

we expressed the ancient wisdom in the modern context, but I am waiting for

funds to run it. It seems miles to go before I sleep, I say.

Hey, you have idea of what you want to do, so do not bother, just wait and

see, he says.

Yaw, you are right. To get the degree has been my dream, as I want to continue

my research so that it may contribute substantially to the society. It would be

honest to express that I cannot accept any financial aid on any compromise, as I

feel obliged and will return it, when I have the funds, though I do not pledge it,

I say.

Well, youre telling me as if I know you from childhood, my friend now you

would say that you do not money for any of work, though the helping peoplemay do so if one wishes to help you in publishing your books, isnt it, he says.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXVIII

Gosh, how do you know? I ask.

Well, I can guess, he says.

Yaw, you are right, you see the works are getting delayed, even my fathers

more than 10 books are waiting from 45 years. Well, and mine, though I can edit

the publishers seek the editing from some renowned editors, so that the booksmay have more sale, though the critics from the USA have evaluated my books

as the very good ones and useful for all globally, particularly for the children.

Had I have the money to afford for the editors; the books could have been on

sale, this is what seems to me. I can print these books on my own, but I am not a

good distributor or a salesperson, I say.

You cannot be a professional, and you do not need to be, just take it easy, one

day, you will have it without needing money as if a loan or as a donation, is not

it, he says.

Well, you see here the word loan is something as if a publisher publishes a

book without seeking money in advance. The name and fame works, butsometimes, the works speak; I wish to reach at that level. You see I can get it

from the bank, as I am not a defaulter. However, getting the right publisher is of

a great concern, the higher octave than just taking a loan and investing the place

without knowing the people as I receive many emails that I have won millions of

dollars and just need to pay a little to get it. If you feel still better help kindly,

pray for me and send me your good wishes and blessings. God surely answers

all prayers. Anyway, the degree of the MA/PhD. is just my need, as I feel. It is a

social need to contribute to the human community with Philselfology in which

whatever we are doing or whatever one does becomes a contribution, asdescribed in the detailed profile or bio-data. Please, advice me about how I can

get the postgraduate degrees or fee waiver for it, is not it, I say.

Yaw, the scholarships follow the long processes, he says.

Yaw, the marathon, the long process as I have been from 21 years, you see if

there are publishers, who may publish the booksthough I have published more

than 15 books at lulu.com as the POD books, I say.

What is your storefront name at the lulu? Ill read some of your books, he says.

Its, http://stores.lulu.com/harmandersingh

, thanks for your interest, I say.


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I see. Its easy to find, thanks. Hey, the plane is landing for new journey, just see

how East meets the West, leave the rest to time, all right, it was nice meeting

you, he says.

Thanks a lot, I forgot, we have traveled without looking at the watch, I say.

Yaw, good luck and May God Bless All, he says.

Amen! we both say.

He, as the Western and I, as the Eastern Talk and Discuss-XXXIX

We sit as if friends in the chairs in front of the table at the airport, while

having the strangers feelings for the daily life.

What is the past, present and future of your parents and family, I wish to know.

The life in the present is always important than what has happened in the past.

However, how do you think all of the past in the present context going into

future? He says.You see in the history of locality to the local and global level, there are some

scandals, accidents and the incidents, which have such a strong influence, which

is similar to genocidal one. We cant compare it with exact genocide, but it gives

the extinction of the society in perspective of art, culture and ethics and the value

systems that need to prevail. This happens when the extinction in the human

relations becomes prominent enough to give it the touch of genocide, I say.

What do you mean by it? He says.

You know, in the times from 1977-79, the year 1978, one brutal accident

occurred in the field of education and teaching. On the same road leadingtowards the north to touch, the river and water supply that goes to Gurudwara

Shri Dukhniwaran Sahib, there is present the wall of Government College of

Physical Education. The girls of the college were taken to the Rajindra hospital in

the rows for pregnancy tests and it was as if the animals are taken to slaughter,

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