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Note:
This is NOT political only my personal perspective.
Really could care less!
Whether they do or don't life goes on. In the greater scheme of things it is as important as
a single grain of sand on a beach.
But I bet it will be sometime before BP stops the leak or unemployment falls below the 9 -
10%, both of which is far more significant and effecting far more lives, then a handful of
movements.
I know the movement in my timepiece to be authentic and I believe they were obtained by
legal/lawful means. Did DD work directly, indirectly, at all with Invicta. Don't care!
What the problem is and/or how it occurred? Interesting reading, but don't care.
How it will be corrected, interesting but since I am not the one making the repairs, don't
care.
So why don't I care regarding this timepeice, because it has no effect on my life or a
majority of life.
What DO I care about with regards to this timepiece?
That I have a completely functional timepiece - I do!
That IF a problem arises in the future it will be taken care of - It will!
BTW - these have no effect on my life or the majority of life either.
So my suggestion for today - for all the present and future dad's, have a Happy Father's
Day.
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#27
Yesterday, 04:47 PM
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I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold
problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .
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Yesterday, 04:56 PM
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The CEO of a rather large watch company was basically called a "liar" at his
website. Then there was evidence brought forward to support that claim. This can not be a
good thing. If he(Eyal) never says anything about It then he Is guilty as charged, at least In
many peoples minds. Many consumers who buy watches and o
Internet Is a wonderful tool. To have something like this hanging over ones head cant be
good for business. Maybe Im wrong, It would not be the first time. I just dont see a
"statement" of any kind comming after all this time ha
SANIII on the Rocks with a Twist of Lemon
I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold
problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .
The CEO of a rather large watch company was basically called a "liar" at his own sponsored
website. Then there was evidence brought forward to support that claim. This can not be a
good thing. If he(Eyal) never says anything about It then he Is guilty as charged, at least In
many peoples minds. Many consumers who buy watches and other Items do research, the
Internet Is a wonderful tool. To have something like this hanging over ones head cant be
good for business. Maybe Im wrong, It would not be the first time. I just dont see a
"statement" of any kind comming after all this time has passed, I voted never.
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website. Then there was evidence brought forward to support that claim. This can not be a
good thing. If he(Eyal) never says anything about It then he Is guilty as charged, at least In
ther Items do research, the
Internet Is a wonderful tool. To have something like this hanging over ones head cant be
good for business. Maybe Im wrong, It would not be the first time. I just dont see a
s passed, I voted never.
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Originally Posted by knapplink
There is a reason for the delay. Invicta has hired Isaiah Mustafa to deliver the news. If you
don't know Isaiah Mustafa, he's the actor in the Old Spice Commercials.
I'm lucky enough to have receive a screen capture and copy of the script. Hope you enjoy.
"Hello, geeks, look at your watch, now back to mine, now back at your watch, now back to
mine. Sadly, yours may be broken, and we apologize. Look down, back up, where are you?
You’re on my Invicta yacht with the watch of your dreams. What’s in your hand, back at
me. I have it, it’s an oyster with a yellow box containing that watch you love. Look again,
the yellow box is now diamonds. Anything is possible when Invicta is at the helm. I’m on a
horse."
No matter how one feels about this whole thing .............. This was one of the best
posts yet!! LMAO!!! Thanks Bro!!!
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Originally Posted by Tandi
It really makes no sense for them to say anything more about this festering turd of a
watch they hoisted upon the unwitting public. Sooner or later people will move on and it
will get brushed under the rug. It is the Clinton school of how to handle a scandal, I am
just waiting to see if the proverbial stained blue dress comes to light.
Since I own this watch and mine works fine, I think your terms "festering turd" are a bit
strong. I think you might be correct with your overall opinion, just be careful about your
insults.
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Yesterday, 05:15 PM
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Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say
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Yesterday, 05:15 PM
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As I have already mentioned, all Invicta purchases for me are on hold until we get conflicting
questions answered.
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Yesterday, 05:29 PM
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Since I own this watch and mine works fine, I think your terms "festering turd" are a bit
strong. I think you might be correct with your overall opinion, just be careful about your
insults.
I am happy you got a working one but, anything with a 50% catastrophic defect rate earns
that title. How would you feel about a new car that would only start 50% of the the time or,
a specific model TV that 50% did not work, it is a lemon of epic proportions. Don't mean to
offend you but, what would you call it?
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Yesterday, 05:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff meade
I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold
problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .
yeah its hard to get answers on
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Yesterday, 05:34 PM
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Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say
you would think woudnt you bignoize but aparently there is alot to say
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#36
Yesterday, 05:38 PM
ru Senior Member
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jeff meade
I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold
problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .
yeah its hard to get answers on things that never happened...
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BIGNOIZE
Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say
you would think woudnt you bignoize but aparently there is alot to say
Did you see that? Do they all got hedges like that? Do they?
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Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say
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I did not even look at the sundayrun!
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Yesterday, 05:39 PM
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Yesterday, 05:41 PM
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I have a dd and have a case # dont need to hear my watch is a turd.
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Yesterday, 05:44 PM
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153 of 300 and may never be made again. if it gets fixed right I'LL KEEP IT.
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#40
Yesterday, 05:45 PM
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I believe it will be toward the end of the week, probably around thursday
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Look...many of you MAY not care about this....
that is your prerogative ....
but what I think you fail to realize is that this has MUCH bigger implications for
future issues...
If Invicta misrepresented the truth about DD....
which I am still waiting for an answer...
Then what does mean about their honesty the next time around...
on ANYTHING ELSE they claim....
THAT...is the real story behind this story
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Yesterday, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wave3214
I believe it will be toward the end of the week, probably around thursday
That was the impression last week.
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#43
Yesterday, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timeman
Invicta made numerous claims about it's association with D
watch. In Mr. Becker's D-D letter
never a customer of D-D. As a result D
report. Invicta will have a lot of explaining and I'm sure any statement will be reviewed if
not written by It!s legal department.
This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen
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I believe it will be toward the end of the week, probably around thursday
That was the impression last week.
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Invicta made numerous claims about it's association with D-D in the production of the
D letter he said there was no such partnership, and Invicta was
D. As a result D-D will have very little to contribute to this joint
report. Invicta will have a lot of explaining and I'm sure any statement will be reviewed if
!s legal department.
This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen
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D in the production of the
he said there was no such partnership, and Invicta was
D will have very little to contribute to this joint
report. Invicta will have a lot of explaining and I'm sure any statement will be reviewed if
This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen
proof of that. I have not seen emails from the owners of DD that there was no relationship
whatsoever. Until I see Mr. Becker's statement proved, I have to give the benefit of the
doubt to Invicta. Innocent until proven guilty. But
of some sort or I will not be purchasing more Invicta's any time soon.
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Yesterday, 08:47 PM
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How would anyone know what to believe anymore?
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Yesterday, 08:50 PM
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Sorry , way later wayyyyyy later, that just what I think. after I got hosed on the Reserve
Lupha blue sandstone for 750.00 then a week 11/2 later on giltman.com for 235.00 that was
hard to swollow you know.
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proof of that. I have not seen emails from the owners of DD that there was no relationship
Until I see Mr. Becker's statement proved, I have to give the benefit of the
doubt to Invicta. Innocent until proven guilty. But - they have to come out with a statement
of some sort or I will not be purchasing more Invicta's any time soon.
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Sorry , way later wayyyyyy later, that just what I think. after I got hosed on the Reserve
Lupha blue sandstone for 750.00 then a week 11/2 later on giltman.com for 235.00 that was
proof of that. I have not seen emails from the owners of DD that there was no relationship
Until I see Mr. Becker's statement proved, I have to give the benefit of the
they have to come out with a statement
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandi
It really makes no sense for them to say anything more about this festering turd of a
watch they hoisted upon the unwitting public. Sooner or later people will move on and it
will get brushed under the rug. It is the Clinton school of how to handle a scandal, I am
just waiting to see if the proverbial stained blue dress comes to light.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandi
I am happy you got a working one but, anything with a 50% catastrophic defect rate earns
that title. How would you feel about a new car that would only start 50% of the the time
or, a specific model TV that 50% did not work, it is a lemon of epic proportions. Don't
mean to offend you but, what would you call it?
Do you have facts on the EXACT # of watches that had problems? I doubt it very much. And
please leave derogatory political statements out of this forum. This is not the place for your
personal issues.
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Yesterday, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tandi
I am happy you got a working one but, anything with a 50% catastrophic defect rate earns
that title. How would you feel about a new car that would only start 50% of the the time
or, a specific model TV that 50% did not work, it is a lemon of epic proportions. Don't
mean to offend you but, what would you call it?
I'd call it a success, if I happen to be the owner of such a working and non-problematic
watch.
You can call it dodging a bullet, or just getting lucky.
I call it glass half full.
Quote:
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I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold
problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .
That's a bit off-topic.
You may want to start another thread, or look for one on that subject.
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#48
Yesterday, 08:59 PM
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In this day of Internet, email, instant messaging, global cell phone, etc. I find it very difficult
to believe that a company could not get news out quicker. Heck, whenever my boss wants a
meeting. No matter where you are in the world you better get on that call.
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Originally Posted by maxkonin
Do you have facts on the EXACT # of watches that had problems? I doubt it very much.
And please leave derogatory political statements out of this forum. This is not the place for
your personal issues.
See the thread containing the poll about defective DD Speedways. I know the respondents
are not all of the people who purchased but the rules of statistics say a sample size of that
size, given the total number sold, gives a high confidence rate of 95% of that data. At least
that is what someone posted on that thread (or another of these DD threads), who probably
knows more about statistics than I.
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Yesterday, 09:32 PM
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See the thread containing the poll about defective DD Speedways. I know the respondents
are not all of the people who purchased but the rules of statistics say a sample size of that
size, given the total number sold, gives a high confidence rate of 95% of that data. At least
that is what someone posted on that thread (or another of these DD threads), who
probably knows more about statistics than I.
I am only interested in the facts. Online surveys can't ever be trusted, ever.
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Quote:
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This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen
proof of that....snipped
There were sustantiated emails from both Eric Metzger and Christopher Becker from
Dubois-Depraz with regards to the fact that
• There has never been a sale of movements from DD to invicta. Invicta is not a
customer of their company.
• Prior to this D.D. Debacle, There has been NO communication between Invicta or any
known--or appropriately identified--Invicta representative with DD.
• DD has assumed NO responsibility for any faults, claims or other issues supposedly
advanced by Invicta, or anyone else acting in their name.
• If someone else--especially an already registered customer--has purchased our
modules and resold them to Invicta, they are reponsible for any issues which may
arise. I am the only official purchase conduit for any US address, and Invicta has never done any business with me or any official DD representative.
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Yesterday, 09:51 PM
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The statement will come when both Invicta AND D-D have a statement ready.
These are two significant companies, and both are releasing statements from the top of the
executive offices in each... it won't be overnight. Sorry for the delay.
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Your candor in the explanation reveals the nature of the relationship you ha
your viewers.
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executive offices in each... it won't be overnight. Sorry for the delay.
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Your candor in the explanation reveals the nature of the relationship you have formed with
ve formed with