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TRANSCRIPT OF A MEETING
OF THE
STATE OF NEVADA
PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS LICENSING BOARD
Wednesday, September 11, 2019
9:00 a.m.
and
Thursday, September 12, 2019
9:00 a.m.
Northern Nevada Location:
Legislative Counsel Bureau
401 South Carson Street, Suite 3138
Carson City, Nevada 89701
Southern Nevada Location (Videoconferenced):
Legislative Counsel Bureau
555 East Washington Avenue, Room 4401
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101
REPORTED BY: SHANNON L. TAYLOR, CCR, CSR, RMR
Certified Court, Shorthand and Registered Merit Reporter
Nevada CCR #322, California CSR #8753, Idaho CSR #485
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A P P E A R A N C E S
Board Members Present:
Raymond Flynn, Acting Board Chairman
(Las Vegas)
Tammy Nixon (Las Vegas)
Robert Gronauer (Las Vegas)
Also: Kevin Ingram (Las Vegas)
Executive Director
Michael Detmer (Las Vegas)
Deputy Attorney General
Board Counsel
Rosalie Bordelove (Las Vegas)
Deputy Attorney General
Prosecuting Counsel
Lori Irizarry (Las Vegas)
Chief of Operations
Vincent Saladino (Las Vegas)
Supervisor Investigator
Shelly Donald (Las Vegas)
Investigator and Licensing Specialist
Paul Maxwell (Las Vegas)
Investigator
Zachary Swarthout (Las Vegas)
Investigator
Jordan Jones (Carson City)
Investigator
Mary Klemme (Carson City)
Office Manager
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Other Participants:
Dan E. Taylor (Las Vegas)
Anthony J. Brown (Las Vegas)
Wendy Thomas (Las Vegas)
Carl Thomas (Las Vegas)
Charles Kenerson (Las Vegas)
Rex M. Verley (Las Vegas)
David A. Dionisi (Las Vegas)
Richard Shields (Las Vegas)
Adam Wertsbaugh (Las Vegas)
Nicholas Sacco (Las Vegas)
Barak Kessler (Las Vegas)
Dexter Jasper (Las Vegas)
Michael Carlson (Las Vegas)
Arne Ogaard (Las Vegas)
Jaike Miller (Las Vegas)
Vincent Minecci (Las Vegas)
George S. Webb (Las Vegas)
James D. McCarthy (Las Vegas)
Chad A. Mitchell (Las Vegas)
Timothy R. Coleman (Las Vegas)
James F. Labriola (Las Vegas)
Sharon Oren (Carson City)
Abel B. Peralez (Las Vegas)
Cody K. Golant (Las Vegas)
Cory L. Rivero (Carson City)
Jorge B. Blanco Wilson (Las Vegas)
Linda C. Morrison (Las Vegas)
Taylor S. Kruse (Las Vegas)
Nancy J. Taylor (Las Vegas)
Lawrence E. Sanchez (Las Vegas)
Devin C. Ballard (Las Vegas)
James N. McCollum Jr. (Las Vegas)
Etienne Dupre (Las Vegas)
Elise Dupre (Las Vegas)
Marcus Hinton (Las Vegas)
Davin Kelley (Las Vegas)
Scott Macrina (Las Vegas)
Brett Smith (Las Vegas)
Joseph Verde (Las Vegas)
Rick Brown (Carson City, observing)
Jerry Stovall (Las Vegas)
Larry Verumen-Salcido (Las Vegas)
Keoudon Dunlap (Las Vegas)
Kamran Estifaee (Las Vegas)
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Other Participants (continued):
Marcus Ettress (Las Vegas)
Damian Gatlin (Las Vegas)
Malik Hardy (Las Vegas)
Larry Phillips (Las Vegas)
Richard Thomas (Las Vegas)
Tyree Jackson (Las Vegas)
Michael S. Spriggs (Las Vegas)
Debra Turman (Las Vegas)
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I N D E X
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 (page 18)
Thursday, September 12, 2019 (page 250)
ITEM PAGE
1. Roll Call of Board Members 19
250
2. Public Comment 19
3. Board/Executive Director Announcements,
Reports and Updates 20
4. Review and approve transcripts from
June 20, Board meetings "for possible action" 27
5. All applicants and witnesses to be sworn in 27
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REQUEST FOR EXEMPTION
6. Dan E. Taylor, Jr. of DTA Security Services,
LLC, license number 1067 is asking the Board to
grant an exemption as outlined in NAC 648.338.
Mr. Taylor is requesting that the Board allow
them to hire 6 "active" out of state Peace
Officers to work in elevated security positions
in Nevada during the 2020 CES event. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 28
7. Seth Schrenzel of High Rock Security, Inc.,
license number 2635 is asking the Board to
grant an exemption as outlined in NAC 648.338.
Mr. Schrenzel is requesting that the Board
allow them to hire John Craig an "active out of
state Peace Officer for the annual Burning Man
event in Northern Nevada and at no other time
throughout the year. 35
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CORPORATE OFFICER
8. American Protection Group, Inc. (APG), license
number 2075 is seeking Corporate Officer status
approval for Anthony J. Brown. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 38
9. Griffin Investigations Inc., license number 74
is seeking Corporate Officer approval for
Paula K. Ludwig. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 37
10. Thomas Protective Service, Inc., license number
1309 is seeking Corporate Officer approval for
Susan H. Thomas and Wendy S. Thomas. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 42
11. ProVest Litigation Services, LLC, license
number 2394 is seeking Member status approval
for William J. Monaghan. This is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 37
12. National Cinema Security, Inc., license number
2088 is seeking Corporate Officer status
approval for Kerry E. Deluca. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 37
13. Frasco, Inc., license number 1026 is seeking
Corporate Officer status approval for
Christina D. Schumacher. This is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 37
CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS-CORPORATE NAME CHANGE
QUALIFYING AGENT TRANSFER
14. A Closer Look, Inc., license number 1569 is
requesting a Corporate Name Change to A Closer
Look, LLC. Charles Kenerson will remain the
qualifying agent. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
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15. LP Innovations, Inc., license number 1523 is
requesting a Corporate Name Change to DTiQ
Services, Inc. John Rice will remain the
qualifying agent. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 49
16. Veracity Research Company, license number 1292
is requesting a Corporate Name Change to
Veracity Research Co., L.L.C. James O. Stokes
will remain the qualifying agent. Member to
be approved is Peter J. Stein. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 37
CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS-QUALIFYING AGENT, NEW CORP
17. NextGen Watchmen L.L.C. is applying for a new
Private Patrolman license. If approved,
Steve J. Ketter, license number 2382 is
requesting that his individual license is kept
in abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Members to be approved are
Joseph A. Murphy and Rex M. Verley. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 51
18. Envista Forensics, LLC is applying for a new
Private Investigator license. If approved,
David A. Dionisi is requesting to transfer his
qualifying agent status from PT&C Forensic
Consulting Services PA, dba, Envista Forensics,
license number 1375. Member to be approved is
Michael J. Driscoll. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 57
19. Silver Shields Protection & Investigations, LLC
is applying for a new Private Investigator and
Private Patrolman license. If approved,
Richard Shields, license number 1804 is
requesting that his individual licenses be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Member to be approved is
Roxanna L. Shields. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 60
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20. Metro One Loss Prevention Services Group (West
Coast), Inc. is applying for a new Private
Patrolman license. If approved, Adam
Wertsbaugh, license number 2600 is requesting
that his individual license is kept in abeyance
so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Corporate Officers to be approved are Brandon
Carrabba and Vincent A. Carrabba. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 63
21. Tiberias Security Solutions, LLC is applying
for a new Private Patrolman license. If
approved, Barak Kessler, license number 2041
is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Member to be approved is
Larry E. Kessler. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 73
22. Watermark Enterprises, Inc., dba, Watermark
Investigations & Protection Group is applying
for a new Private Patrolman license. If
approved, John A. Avila, license number 2001 is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 75
23. Serve Vegas, LLC is applying for a new Process
Server license. If approved, Nicholas Ohlson,
license number 1914 is requesting that his
individual license be placed into abeyance so
that he may become the qualifying agent. This
is subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 76
24. D Executive Protection, Inc. is applying for
a new Private Patrolman license. If approved,
Dexter Jasper, license number 1844 is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
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CHANGE OF LICENSING STATUS-QUALIFYING AGENT-EXISTING
CORP, CORP NAME CHANGE
25. Brad M. Murray is requesting a change in
licensing status. Mr. Murray is requesting
that his individual license, license number
1726 is kept in abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent for Beach City
Investigations & Protection Services Beach
Cities Protective Services, Inc., license
number 2122. He is also requesting a corporate
name change from Beach City Investigations &
Protection Services Beach Cities Protective
Services, Inc. to Beach City Investigation and
Protective Services, Inc. Corporate Officer
to be approved is Ronald J. Blackstone. This
is subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 80
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR
26. Five Diamond Screening, LLC is applying for a
new corporate Private Investigator license.
Arne Ogaard is applying for an individual
Private Investigator license. If approved, he
is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Members to be approved are
Arne Ogaard, Catherine J. Aldrich and
Jordan A.G. Robusto. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 82
27. Jaike Miller is applying for an individual
Private Investigator license. If approved, she
is requesting that her individual license be
placed into abeyance so that she may become the
qualifying agent for Digistream Nevada, Inc.,
license number 1320. Corporate Officers to be
approved are William Aaronson and Casey W.
Gibson. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. "for possible
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28. Vincent Minecci is applying for an individual
Private Investigator license. If approved, he
is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for Stroz Friedberg, LLC,
license number 1784. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 88
29. George S. Webb is applying for an individual
Private Investigator license. If approved, he
is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for Claims Verification, Inc.,
license number 1219. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 90
30. James D. McCarthy is applying for an individual
Private Investigator license. If approved, he
is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for Donan Engineering Co.,
Inc., license number 2421. This is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 92
31. Chad A. Mitchell is applying for an individual
Private Investigator license. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 94
PRIVATE PATROLMAN
32. Premier Protective Security, Inc. is applying
for a new corporate Private Patrolman license.
Timothy R. Coleman is applying for an individual
Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be placed
into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Corporate Officers to be
approved are Timothy R. Coleman, James F.
Labriola and Chaz B. Vetter. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
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33. Maccabee Arms, Ltd. is applying for a new
corporate Private Patrolman license. Sharon
Oren is applying for an individual Private
Patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Members to be approved are
Sharon Oren and Yelena K. Oren. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 101
34. Abel B. Peralez is applying for an individual
Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for Aarrowhead Security,
Inc., dba, Vet-Sec Protection Agency, license
number 1271. This is subject to all statutory
and regulatory requirements. "for possible
action" 103
35. Cody K. Golant is applying for an individual
Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for G4S Secure Solutions
(USA), Inc., license number 1563. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 106
36. Cory L. Rivero is applying for an individual
Private Patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for SOC Hawthorne, LLC,
license number 1357. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 108
37. Jorge B. Blanco Wilson is applying for an
individual Private Patrolman license. If
approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may
become the qualifying agent for Picore Beristan
Initiative, Inc., dba, Picore International,
license number 1389. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
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38. Linda C. Morrison is applying for an individual
Private Patrolman license. If approved, she is
requesting that her individual license be
placed into abeyance so that she may become the
qualifying agent for Rancho Security Services,
LLC, license number 875. This is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 114
39. Alfredo Rivera Hernandez is applying for an
individual Private Patrolman license. If
approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may
become the qualifying agent for American Guard
Services, Inc., license number 1364. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 26
PROCESS SERVER
40. Taylor Squared Incorporated, dba, NMI is
applying for a new Process Server license.
Taylor S. Kruse is applying for an individual
Process Server license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Corporate Officers to be
approved are Taylor S. Kruse and Nancy J.
Taylor. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. "for possible
action" 116
CANINE HANDLER
41. T.A.C. Protective Service, LLC, license number
2704 is applying for a new Canine Handler
license. Michon Hurd-Korkmaz is applying for
an individual Canine Handler license. If
approved, she is requesting that her individual
license be placed into abeyance so that she may
become the qualifying agent. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
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PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND PROCESS SERVER
42. Lawrence E. Sanchez is applying for an
individual Private Investigator and Process
Server license. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 120
PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND PRIVATE PATROLMAN
43. Armor Network, LLC is applying for a new
Private Investigator and Private Patrolman
license. Devin C. Ballard is applying for an
individual Private Investigator and Private
Patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual licenses be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Member to be approved is
Devin C. Ballard. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
"for possible action" 123
PRIVATE PATROLMAN AND CANINE HANDLER
44. Action K-9 Security, Inc. is applying for a
new Private Patrolman and Canine Handler
license. Timothy J. Clancy is applying for
an individual Private Patrolman and Canine
Handler license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual licenses be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Corporate Officers to be
approved are Timothy J. Clancy and Danuta J.
Clancy. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. "for possible
action" 26
45. James N. McCollum Jr. is applying for an
individual Private Patrolman and Canine Handler
license. If approved, he is requesting that
his individual license be placed into abeyance
so that he may become the qualifying agent for
K2 Solutions, Inc., license number 2631. This
is subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. "for possible action" 126
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REGISTRATION APPEALS
46. Wayne Byrd applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Byrd is appealing the decision to 141
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"for possible action" 243
47. Etienne Dupre applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Dupre is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 141
48. Marcus Hinton applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Hinton is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 152
49. Davin Kelley applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Kelley is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 157
50. Scott Macrina applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Macrina is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 167
51. Brett Smith applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Smith is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 173
52. Joseph Verde applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Verde is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 182
53. Willie Edwards applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Edwards is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 184
"for possible action" 243
54. Trenses Love applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Love is appealing the decision to
the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 185
"for possible action" 243
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55. Jerry Stovall applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Stovall is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 185
56. Larry Verumen-Salcido applied for registration
and was denied. Mr. Verumen-Salcido is
appealing the decision to the Board pursuant
to NRS 648. "for possible action" 190
57. Hephzibah Dollar applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Dollar is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 196
"for possible action" 243
58. Keoudon Dunlap applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Dunlap is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 197
59. Kamran Estifaee applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Estifaee is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 200
60. Marcus Ettress applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Ettress is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 206
61. Damion Gatlin applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Gatlin is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 216
62. Kristina Gomez applied for registration and
was denied. Ms. Gomez is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 221
"for possible action" 243
63. Malik Hardy applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Hardy is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 221
64. Jason Hayes applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Hayes is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 225
"for possible action" 243
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65. Gene Hobdy applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Hobdy is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 25
66. Larry Phillips applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Phillips is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 226
67. Richard Thomas applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Thomas is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 230
68. Timothy Toy applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Toy is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 234
"for possible action" 243
69. Tyree Jackson applied for registration and
was denied. Mr. Jackson is appealing the
decision to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.
"for possible action" 234
70. Vincent Eta applied for registration and was
denied. Mr. Eta is appealing the decision
to the Board pursuant to NRS 648. 242
"for possible action" 243
DISCIPLINARY HEARING
71. Continuation of disciplinary hearing for Adam
Plant, R-085960, pursuant to NRS 648.156. 244
"for possible action" 250
CITATION APPEALS
72. Torrey Mitchell is appealing the issuance of
Citation I-0007-19 to the Board pursuant to 244
NRS 648.165. "for possible action" 255
73. Dominique Fuiava is appealing the issuance of
Citation I-0020-19 to the Board pursuant to 244
NRS 648.165. "for possible action" 257
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74. Board Comment and future agenda items
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75. Public Comment 246
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CARSON CITY, NEVADA, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2019,
9:02 A.M.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Good
morning. This is Ray Flynn, the Acting Chair today.
And we'll get started with the September 11th meeting of
the Nevada Private Investigators Licensing Board.
We are in a new room for us. And the video
people in the back have asked me to read the mic
etiquette script for all of us here today, so.
In order for the meeting to be broadcast with
the best possible quality, please silence all cell
phones and devices. To speak, press your mic button at
your seat. The button will light up. Once speaking,
adjust the mic so it's pointing directly at your mouth.
Position yourself about six inches from the mic. If you
have a soft voice, stay closer. If you have a loud --
if your voice is loud, Bobby, get further away. Press
the mic button again to mute the mic when you're done
speaking. And please use only once mic at a time.
And we don't have anybody, we don't have the
ability to teleconference, do we?
MR. INGRAM: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. So
you got to be in person. You got to come on in.
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I'll ask for the roll call of the Board
members.
MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Board Member Flynn?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Here.
MR. INGRAM: Board Member Nixon?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Here.
MR. INGRAM: Board Member Gronauer?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Here.
MR. INGRAM: We do have a quorum.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Members of
the general public may comment on matters appearing on
the agenda and may bring matters not appearing on the
agenda to the attention of the Board. The Board may
discuss the matters not appearing on the agenda but may
not act on matters at this meeting. If the Board
desires, the matters may be placed on a future agenda
for action. Public comments may be limited to five
minutes per person at the discretion of the Chairman but
will not be restricted according to the viewpoint.
In addition to public comment being taken at
the beginning and end of the meeting, public comment may
be accepted after each agenda item prior to the Board
taking action. However, prior to the commencement and
conclusion of a contested case or a quasi-judicial
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proceeding that may affect the due process rights of an
individual, the Board will not consider public comment,
pursuant to NRS 233B.126.
So before we get started, is there any public
comment this morning down south, anybody that would like
to address the Board on any matter they may have?
All right. Is there any -- I don't even know
if we've got an audience up north.
MS. KLEMME: Yes, we do. We have three
individuals, no comment.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Item number three, the Executive
Director announcement and updates.
MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'll start with the introductions of staff. In
our northern office we have Mary Klemme, who is our
Office Manager. And we have our newest investigator,
Jordan Jones. He's been with us for a few weeks now,
and he's doing a great job. And then we have our
stenographer, as always, Ms. Shannon. Hi, Shannon.
MS. TAYLOR: Hello.
MR. INGRAM: In the south here, directly to my
left is Board Counsel, Mike Detmer. Directly to his
left is our Chief of Operations, Lori Irizarry. At the
far end to the right, we have Zachary Swarthout. He's
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an investigator. We have Paul Maxwell, who is an
investigator. We have Shelly Donald, who's an
investigator and has taken over the role of Licensing
Specialist with the exit of Ms. Gisela Corral. Directly
to her left is our Supervisor Investigator, Vincent
Saladino. And then Board members Robert Gronauer, Tammy
Nixon, and Acting Board Chair Ray Flynn.
With that said, I have provided the Board with
the financials. Does the Board have any questions on
the financials?
At this time, I'd like to ask Chief Irizarry to
give an overview of the last quarter's statistics.
MS. IRIZARRY: Good morning. I'm going to go
over the handout that's over on the table, the
statistics. We, every quarter, have been now presenting
our statistics. So I'm going to compare it to last
quarter's as well.
So starting on page one at the top, there were
35 applications that were presented to us to come before
the Board today. All 35 will be heard at the Board
hearing. None of them were denied. There were 14
corporate officers, 10 private patrolmen, eight private
investigators, two process services, one canine, no
repossessors or polygraph examiners.
For work cards processed that last quarter,
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compared to last quarter, we saw a decrease of 1,365
work card applications. That's usually due to the large
events that we host during the second quarter, the
Electric Daisy Carnival, JCK show. The Ballpark opened
up here in southern Nevada. So there was a decrease.
But this last quarter, we processed 2,089 work
cards. From that, 1,280 then have been made active,
which means they were given their five-year permanent
card. 52 of those have been denied. 587 are still
pending, I'm sorry, have been made provisional. So they
were given a 90-day provisional work card. 123 of them
are still pending, pending either because we're still
missing information from them to make a determination if
we can give them a card, or if they were still being
processed at the time that I ran this report. And 47
have been withdrawn. Withdrawn applications are usually
they have something open or active on their background,
or they decided to withdraw on their own.
On page two, this past quarter, we received 12
complaints. The complaints ranged anywhere from work
cards to licensee unlicensed activity. There were three
unlicensed activity complaints that we received. Two
have been issued. One was for a private patrolman
company, and one was for a repossessor. And one was for
a process server. That unlicensed activity complaint is
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still pending. We have not issued a citation for that
as of yet.
There were four citations, I'm sorry, four
complaints issued, I'm sorry, received to us regarding
licensees. Two of them were for repossessors. They
were civil disputes. We closed the cases. They're not
in our jurisdiction. One of them was for a private
patrolman company. It was a contract matter. We closed
that case as well. And one was for a private patrolman
company. The complaint that came in we found to be
unfounded.
Two complaints were referred to other agencies.
Both are for private patrolman companies. One was
referred to OSHA. It was more OSHA's jurisdiction. And
one was referred to the county and Department of
Industrial Relations.
We received three complaints this past quarter
for work card holders. Two of them, their cards have
been suspended, and their situations regarding those
work cards have been -- are currently pending. There's
no final outcome for those two. The one has been
referred to Las Vegas Metro. It was regarding the
mental fitness of that person.
On the bottom of page two, this is a new stat
that we're issuing this quarter. There won't be a
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comparison to last quarter. But these are the
violations that were issued to licensee holders. So a
total of 17 licensees received violations from us this
past quarter.
The first one there is for anyone not properly
listed on a roster. So if they did not let us know that
they were hired or terminated with the company, we
issued $4,025 of citations for that violation.
Anyone that we found to be working without a
work card on their person, or at all, received $2,175 in
citations. There's over $1,600 that has already been
paid. About $500 is still pending.
We issued four citations for individuals not
properly displaying their license number. You need to
do it on any, in an advertisement on your car or
advertisements, business cards, email addresses.
And we issued $1,000 for people working out of
firearms requalifications. This number is a little,
slightly elevated, mainly because this past quarter we
did quite a few audits. We had the on-site checks for
the big events. And, of course, included in this is our
ordinary course of business when we do our compliance
checks.
On the last page is the unlicensed activity
citations we issued this last quarter. These would be
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the individuals who are conducting business but do not
have a license with us. The way it breaks down is we've
issued two citations, that they have been paid. They
were both for private patrolman companies. Both of them
are going through the licensing process. So we may see
them at a future Board meeting.
Four of them are currently pending. Two were
for bodyguards or executive protection individuals. We
got that information from our nightclub relationships we
have going here in the south. One is for a repossessor
reported by a complainant. We issued a citation. It's
still pending. And one is for a private patrolman
company. They were licensed with our agency. Their
license has expired, and they're still conducting
business. And that is still pending as well.
Then, we issued three cease and desists for
private patrolman companies. Those individuals, had we
had issued a monetary amount, would have equaled about
$7,500. We don't issue a monetary amount. They're more
cease and desist at this moment, letting them know that
they are not able to continue working here in the state.
One of those was reported to us by Nevada Transit
Authority. One of them located through our normal
course of business, we found them on social media
conducting business. And one was uncovered through the
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licensing process that we go through with our licensees.
Thank you.
MR. INGRAM: Does the Board have any questions
for Ms. Irizarry?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No, we don't see
any. But thank you for the report. We do appreciate
it. It gives us a good feel what's going on each
quarter.
MS. IRIZARRY: You're welcome.
MR. INGRAM: This will take us into the
overview of the roster. I have made some notes on Board
members' agendas as well.
Item number 39 on the agenda, Alfredo Rivera
Hernandez pulled out of his contract with American Guard
Services yesterday. So we will not be hearing that
today.
Item number 41, T.A.C. Protective Service,
Ms. Hurd-Korkmaz did not pass the canine exam. So that
will be postponed to a future date. She'll be able to
retake the exam next quarter.
Item number 44, Action K-9 Security, Inc. had a
family emergency and requested it be postponed until the
December Board meeting.
And item number 65, Gene Hobdy asked to be
postponed until the December Board meeting.
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The item number four on the agenda, transcripts
have been provided to each of the Board members from the
June 20th, 2019 Board meeting. Do you have any
questions on those transcripts?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I'll ask
for a motion on the transcripts from June 20th.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Motion to accept.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. There's a
motion to accept the transcripts.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And we have a
second. Any discussion?
Any public comment? Okay. Commissioner
Gronauer made the motion. Commissioner Nixon seconded.
I'm asking for any public comment at this time.
Okay. With no public comment, all in favor?
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries.
Okay. At this time, we'll ask that any
witnesses and applicants that will be coming before us
today, you need to be sworn in for your testimony. And
it's the same with the people up north. So I'll turn it
over to our Deputy Attorney General to handle it from
here.
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MR. DETMER: Is that everybody? All right.
For those who are going to testify, do you hereby swear
and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth?
(All applicants and witnesses present in
Las Vegas and Carson City were sworn/affirmed.)
MR. DETMER: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Before we
get started with the main meeting, I mean, I think, it's
important to acknowledge that today is September 11th.
It's the 18th anniversary of those terrorist attacks.
And I ask that we all have a moment of silence not only
for the victims of that day, but our American military
who have fought and died on the war on terror since
then.
(There was a moment of silence.)
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you
for joining me in that.
All right. The first item is request for
exemption, number six, Dan E. Taylor, DTA Security
Services, asking the Board to grant an exemption as
outlined under the NAC. Mr. Taylor is requesting that
the Board allow them to hire six active out-of-state
peace officers to work in elevated security positions in
Nevada during the 2020 CES event. This is subject to
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all statutory and regulatory requirements.
Mr. Taylor.
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir. Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good morning.
And, Mr. Taylor, you understand you're under oath right
now, right?
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Tell us in
your words what you want us to do, and why.
MR. TAYLOR: Well, we're requesting an
exemption for six out-of-state active-duty police
officers. This is a group of active-duty police
officers that have come to CES.
A little bit of background on CES, this is the
largest annual trade show, bringing in over 180,000
participants to the event. They, the police officers
have come out here through the years. They have history
with the event. They bring experience and the resources
that we don't find or are not able to contract here
locally. And it's just part of the overall plan to keep
everybody safe and secure during that event.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions by the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: What would their duties be
while working here?
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MR. TAYLOR: Their duties are, in essence,
they're an extra set of eyes and ears in the larger
public areas. And they do work with the overall
security team and with the local police department here,
with Metro, also with the federal resources that are
allocated by the federal government. CES is afforded
some additional resources because of the size and the
number of people that come out to that event, that other
events don't see. So they're all tied, they're tied
into that overall plan.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Will they be armed?
MR. TAYLOR: They are not armed.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have a question also.
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. You said they
have the KSAs, knowledge, skills and abilities, and also
resources to do the job. I don't understand that. What
resources would they have that we don't have locally?
MR. TAYLOR: Their experience with the event,
their training with their departments, that we don't --
their experience and backgrounds with their departments
are in terrorism and counterterrorism on the event side.
And so they have the history with the event, and they
also have that training within their department. So
they've been hand-picked, and they have the experience
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because they've been with that event for, in some cases
for over 10 years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are they right now
employed by their regular departments?
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do we have any letters
from their departments saying they could do this job?
Because there's workman's comp type of things that are
involved. I know you have insurance, but I'm trying to
figure out how that works for another police department.
MR. TAYLOR: Correct. Their departments are
aware. We can certainly get those letters.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. We're in
Las Vegas. And I just believe that we have one of the
best security units around as far as security,
professional security companies and people all around
the Strip and for these special conventions. We also
have the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department, who
have definitely the resources, the knowledge, skills and
abilities. And I just don't understand why we have to
use out-of-state people.
I just don't get it. That's why I just need
some better explanation for the six people. You're not
bringing anything but some type of experience, that you
say they have experience.
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MR. TAYLOR: Right. And that would be the --
the biggest difference would just be the experience that
they have with the event and also with the local
resources. But their experience over the years, that
just they have been a part of the CES security plan and
elevated measures.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All six have been part
of the security plan?
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: For how many years now?
MR. TAYLOR: It does vary. But some of them go
back over 10 years. DTA Security Services, which is the
company that I represent, has been contracted by CES for
four years now. And those, those officers, some of
them, or actually most have been a part of that program
from, you know, prior to our coming on board with CES.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So CES contracts
you, and then you contract or subcontract these other
people?
MR. TAYLOR: Yes. Well, they do come in as
direct employees of DTA. But they were part of that
program prior to DTA coming in with being contracted by
CES.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Thank you.
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
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MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chair, Kevin Ingram.
Mr. Taylor, do all six of these individuals
currently hold a PILB work card with our agency, and are
they the ones that we turn on for the event and we
immediately suspend them until the following year?
MR. TAYLOR: Correct. Right. So they have had
cards. And then, from my understanding, they are
inactivated immediately after the event, and then they
are activated and are active during the event.
MR. INGRAM: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I understood that
process, but I didn't see any list of anybody's names or
their work card numbers. So that was a concern to me.
And I didn't see it the backup or the background.
So that's it. Thank you.
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: It's Ray Flynn.
Mr. Taylor, as we've done every other year that
any company asked for this type of exemption with
out-of-state law enforcement, you'll need to have them
supply letters from their employers that they are --
it's okay with their agency for them to engage in
off-duty employment during that event.
MR. TAYLOR: Absolutely.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
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If there's no other questions, I'll entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I make a motion to approve. Dan E. Taylor, Jr. of DTA
Security Services, LLC, license number 1067 is asking
the Board to grant an exemption as outlined in NAC
648.338. Mr. Taylor is requesting that the Board allow
them to hire six active out-of-state peace officers to
work in elevated security positions. And this is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
Also, I'd like to put a little addendum on it,
if I may. That would be that these letters from their
police departments and their cards are shown that they
are active now, that they even have cards, and their
police departments saying they're okay with them working
here.
MR. TAYLOR: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If you get that done,
I'm good.
That's my motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion and a second. Any public comment?
Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All in
favor, say "aye."
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(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carried.
MR. TAYLOR: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you, sir.
MR. TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. INGRAM: Mr. Taylor, you can just provide
that information directly to me.
MR. TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Item
number 7, Seth Schrenzel of High Rock Security, license
number 2635, asking the Board to grant an exemption as
outlined in the NACs. Mr. Schrenzel is requesting that
the Board allow them to hire John Craig, an active
out-of-state peace officer, for the annual Burning Man
event in northern Nevada and no other time throughout
the year.
Is Mr. Schrenzel here or up north?
All right. I don't see Mr. Schrenzel. Do we
know if he's done this before, Kevin?
MR. INGRAM: No, this would be the first time.
He requested it for this year, and I told him there was
no way we could get him on the agenda prior to Burning
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Man. It's already happened, just recently. He's
requesting it for next year. So I'll go ahead and
correspond with him and see if he wants to come back
before the Board between now and next year.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, I don't
know about the other members. I'm uncomfortable making
a vote without him being here. That's a high-profile
event, and I'd like to know. Hopefully, you're in
agreement with me. And I'll ask that we just postpone
this. I don't think we need a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'm in
agreement.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Postponed.
All right. Next, I'd like to call a block
vote, because, for the most part, these are just name
changes or paperwork changes. And I understand there's
one that we may want to pull from the block vote. So
I'll just throw this out as is. I ask for a block vote
of items 8 through 16. And I understand there may be
one to pull on that.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I would like to pull
number 10. I have some further questions.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So then a
block vote of 8, 9 and then 11 through 16. That's my
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'd like to pull --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Woops.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'd like to pull 8 and
14 and 15; 14 and 15 will be very simple, but 8 is
something I have some concerns about.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We'll try
this one more time. Block vote, items 9, 11, 12, 13 and
16.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. I have a second. Any discussion?
Any public comment?
All right. All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carries. That is, just so we
got it all, that is to, that block vote was for items 9,
11, 12, 13 and 16.
Are we okay up north?
MS. KLEMME: Yes, we are.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. So
with that said, let's do item number 8, American
Protection Group.
Oh, yeah, I forgot. All right. If you're
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under the block vote, you don't need to hang out unless
you want to see me make a whole bunch of mistakes today.
But you're more than welcome to. Okay.
All right. Number 8, American Protection Group
APG, license number 2075 is seeking corporate officer
status approval for Anthony J. Brown. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements. For
possible action.
And, Mr. Brown, good morning to you. And you
understand you're under oath?
All right. Why are you here, and why are we
bringing you back? I forgot.
MR. BROWN: My apologies (mic). Oh. Two
apologies. All right. So the last time I was here was
in regards to some additional requests for evidence of
previous taxes that were not really solidly brought to
the attention to the Board as far as being paid up.
I've provided additional evidence that this matter has
been resolved. And as far as the California FTB is
concerned, they have provided me a letter of release of
liens. And in addition to that, the IRS also has a
payment scheduled, and a plan has already been
implemented.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Who's
the investigator on this one? Ms. Donaldson.
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MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald. I've been in
contact with Anthony for the last few months. He's
provided me paperwork on everything. He has taken care
of all the items requested. I have the paperwork here
if you want to look at it. But he does have the lien
release, notices of release. He's set up on a payment
plan. He's made payments on a couple of them and have
paid them off. So he's done everything the Board asked
and has resolved the issue.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
Any questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I had some questions
here. And you answered that last one. The investigator
answered it, too. Because on our backup, it just says
you gave you the compliance and payment agreement, but
it didn't show anything that said anything else about
it. So I didn't understand that part. And that was my
question there.
But I also have a question on page four, I
believe, of the application, under the criminal history,
criminal record. Make sure on which way to go.
The criminal history, I believe, it said --
I'll be there in a second. Or two seconds or three
seconds, whatever's good.
Okay. Civil litigation and background. And
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then, right here, see attached files for your review,
see attached certified copies. That was on criminal
history. And, again, we don't see the certified copies.
I don't know what we have.
MS. DONALD: For criminal history, is that what
you're referring to?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah. On criminal
history.
MS. DONALD: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have any
criminal offenses, including DUIs, but excluding other
traffic violations? It's marked, yes, see attached
certified copies.
MS. DONALD: Yeah, I have all the fingerprint
results. We didn't attach it to the application. But
everything was cleared and taken care of. It was
several years ago, like 20 years ago, and nothing was a
felony.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Again, I just
had a question.
MS. DONALD: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Because of what it said
on the application.
MS. DONALD: Right.
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people in the future, I'm a stickler for filling in all
blanks and seeing, you know, paying attention. So.
Okay. I'm good. Thank you.
MR. BROWN: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
Any comment from the public?
All right. Seeing none, call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I move that we approve
American Protection Group, Inc. (APG), license number
2075. He is seeking corporate office, corporate officer
status for Anthony J. Brown. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
further discussion?
Seeing none, all in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations.
MR. BROWN: Thank you very much. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Item
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number 10, Thomas Protective Service, Inc., license
number 1309, seeking corporate officer approval for
Susan H. Thomas and Wendy S. Thomas. Subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
Good morning.
MR. THOMAS: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You understand
you're both --
MS. THOMAS: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: -- under oath?
MS. THOMAS: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And
then --
MS. THOMAS: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: -- just announce
who both of you are and why you're here.
MS. THOMAS: We are here to get our corporate
officer license approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And you are?
MS. THOMAS: I'm Wendy Thomas.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Thank you.
MR. THOMAS: I'm Carl Thomas, chairman of the
board, Thomas Protective Service.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Thank you.
Okay. Any questions of the Board?
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Go ahead.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer
again.
Ms. Thomas?
MS. THOMAS: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Susan Thomas.
MS. THOMAS: She's my mother. She's not here.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: She's not here?
MS. THOMAS: Correct. We were told she didn't
have to be here. She's on hospice.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: She's what?
MS. THOMAS: She's on hospice.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, okay.
MS. THOMAS: Mr. Thomas is my father.
Ms. Thomas is his wife.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. God bless him.
I'm fine.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So I had a question on the
financial portion. There was a large portion that was
on a tax lien. It says that it was resolved in 2017. I
just wanted to make sure that that -- okay.
And then, under the conclusion, it said the
applicant's background investigation did reveal some
adverse information. Was it that?
Okay. Okay. So that was, so those are my
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Looks like
we're all --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have one more
question, if you don't mind, Mr. Chair.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Does your company have
offices in Nevada?
MS. THOMAS: We have one in Las Vegas.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You had one in
Las Vegas?
MS. THOMAS: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You know, I was
confused with all the names and the addresses. Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions from the public?
Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Thomas Protective
Services, Inc., license number 1309, who is seeking
corporate officer approval for Susan H. Thomas and
Wendy S. Thomas. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements, if approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a motion.
Do I have a second?
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion and a second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All those
in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carries. Congratulations.
Good luck.
MR. THOMAS: Thank you.
MS. THOMAS: Thank you. You all have a great
day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Item
number 14, A Closer Look, Incorporated, license number
1569, requesting a corporate name change to A Closer
Look, LLC. Charles Kenerson will remain the qualifying
agent. Subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements.
Good morning, sir.
MR. KENERSON: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you understand
you're under oath?
MR. KENERSON: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Who
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you are and why you're here.
MR. KENERSON: I'm Charles Kenerson. I am the
qualifying agent for A Closer Look. This hearing is
strictly regarding a name change from A Closer Look,
Inc. to A Closer Look, LLC. Other than that, there's no
changes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
Any questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good morning,
Mr. Kenerson.
MR. KENERSON: Good morning.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a valid
driver's license?
MR. KENERSON: Yes, I do.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And what state is it
in?
MR. KENERSON: I'm sorry?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What state?
MR. KENERSON: Nevada.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. On your
application it was left empty. And I just wanted to
make sure you had a driver's license and what state it
was from.
MR. KENERSON: I can't hear you, sir.
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you had a driver's license and what state it was from.
MR. KENERSON: Why would you ask that?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Pardon?
MR. KENERSON: Why?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Because it's on the
application, and you didn't fill it out.
MR. KENERSON: Hm, seems like a strange
question.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No problem,
Mr. Kenerson. It might be a strange question. But it's
on your application. You're supposed to fill out
everything completely.
MR. KENERSON: And you're saying it's not on
there.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It just says a valid
driver's license, yes. Licensing state is blank.
MR. KENERSON: Oh. I'm sorry. Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Now it's not a strange
question anymore.
MR. KENERSON: And now it's not a strange
question.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you. I really
appreciate that.
MR. KENERSON: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm not looking for an
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MR. KENERSON: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And I can look
at the license number on there to find out. Because it
says San Diego, you know, but I don't know. Thank you.
MR. KENERSON: You're welcome.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
Any the public comment?
Seeing none, I'll call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I move -- this is
Commissioner Nixon. I move that we approve A Closer
Look, Inc., license number 1569, for a corporate name
change to A Closer Look, LLC. Charles Kenerson will
remain the qualifying agent. This is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements, if approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a motion.
Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I'll second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Motion and a
second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All those
in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. Have a good day.
MR. KENERSON: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm thinking that
we're up to number 17. Maybe I'm wrong. Oh, we do.
Okay. My apologies.
All right. Item number 15, LP Innovations,
Inc., license number 1523, requesting a corporate name
change to -- I'll just spell it out, DTiQ Services, Inc.
John Fice will remain the qualifying agent. Subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
Is Mr. Fice here?
Is Mr. Fice up north?
MS. KLEMME: No, he's not.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I know one
of the Board members had an issue. So we can postpone
this one, so we can get our question answered.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I'd rather postpone it. I didn't like when -- the
applicant should be here. If it's important to them,
they should be present.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who's the
investigator?
MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Have you heard
from them, or when was the last time?
MR. SALADINO: He completed his application.
Typically, with these kind of changes, their presence is
not required. We didn't have any issues in the
background, so, you know. It was valid. But he did
have, he carries a New York state valid driver's
license.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: He wasn't proud of it.
I'm good with that explanation. I'll make a
motion.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any public
comment?
Seeing no public comment, I will accept a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I really believe, I
really believe he should be here, but.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: There's a motion
for -- well, we'll see what the motion is. I can't
suggest that. Okay. Thank you, Kevin. Your mic's not
on. There's a reason for that. We're on.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I make a
motion that LP Innovations, Incorporated, license number
1523, is requesting a corporate name change to DTiQ
Services, Incorporated. John Fice will remain the
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qualifying agent. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. For possible action.
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, Board Counsel. Was
that to approve?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yes.
MR. DETMER: Thank you, sir.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
We have a motion. We have a second. We've established
a driver's license is in play. Any further discussion?
All right. All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. The motion carries.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where's our other
counsel?
(Laughter.)
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Oh, this is a good day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And we're only up
to number 17.
All right. Number 17, NextGen Watchmen L.L.C.,
applying for a new private patrolman license. If
approved, Steve J. Ketter, license number 2382,
requesting that his individual license be kept in
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
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Members to be approved are Joseph Murphy and Rex Verley.
Subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
Let's bring everybody up front. Or are you the
only one? All right. You understand you're under oath?
MR. VERLEY: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And you are, and
why you're here.
Right, you forgot to put your mic on. Put your
mic on.
MR. VERLEY: Got it. Speak into the mic.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Let's start from
scratch.
MR. VERLEY: It's on now.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Start all over.
You had practice.
MR. VERLEY: Right.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And now it's
going to come out really good.
MR. VERLEY: Perfect. So my name is Rex
Verley. I'm applying for a private patrol license under
NextGen Watchmen L.L.C. to be part of the combined group
of NextGen companies. We're an established alarm
company here in the city. And what we're looking to do
is provide our own patrol service to our existing
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clients without outsourcing to other guard companies.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So if I
understand correctly, how long have you been an alarm
company?
MR. VERLEY: For 21 years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: 21 years. And
now you want to expand to a guard service also?
MR. VERLEY: Correct.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And who's
Mr. Ketter?
MR. VERLEY: Steve Ketter is our qualifying
agent.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Why
isn't he here?
MR. VERLEY: He wasn't asked to be here. I was
the only person that was asked to be here.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. VERLEY: So that's, that's the reason.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
MR. VERLEY: I was the only one that was
required to be here, is what I was told.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I'm fine with
that.
MR. VERLEY: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I'm just saying
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99.9 percent of the time, the qualifying agent's here,
because that person's the qualifying agent.
MR. VERLEY: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
know we've got some question, so.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So, on Mr. Verely --
MR. VERLEY: Verley.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: -- Verley's background, it
showed that he had some unlicensed activity. Could you
explain that, please, and how it was resolved.
MR. VERLEY: Absolutely. So the unlicensed
activity was we had an agreement with a company. And, I
guess, everything wasn't tied up as good as it could
have been. And as soon as we figured that out, and it
became an issue, we immediately took care of that with
the other company.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So is that -- so it was
resolved?
MR. SALADINO: Yes, the unlicensed activity was
resolved. It was a contract issue with the company they
were outsourcing with. It seemed like they had spoken
about it, but they didn't put it on paper and make it
official. The folks that were working believed
themselves to be NextGen employees. And then once we
notified Mr. Verley, the citation, yeah, the citation
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was paid in full, and moved forward with licensure.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
Mr. Verley, why would Kevin McMahill ask me to
take a really close look at this?
MR. VERLEY: You know, I would say that --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You don't have
to --
MR. VERLEY: -- it probably had something to do
with being like a Broncos fan, I would guess, something,
going back to that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. VERLEY: You know, all of those guys --
actually, you and I have never got a chance to really
meet.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No.
MR. VERLEY: Which is kind of very odd, because
I've heard of you a million times. But, you know, all
those guys are kind of -- we do a lot with them, and.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, actually,
today is a good day not to know me, because I would have
to abstain. And then you wouldn't get a license.
MR. VERLEY: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So. All right.
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Enough said. We're having a lot of fun this morning.
It's nominally not like this. I don't know why, but the
state's not providing coffee like they normally do,
that's it.
All right. Any questions from the public, or
comments?
All right. I'll call for a motion. And please
tell me what your motion is about.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve NextGen Watchmen L.L.C.
for a new private patrolman license. If approved,
Steve J. Ketter, license number 2328, is requesting that
his individual license is kept in abeyance so that he
may become the qualifying agent. Members to be approved
are Joseph A. Murphy and Rex M. Verley. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements, if
approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do I have a
second?
And I did want to modify your motion. This is
Ray Flynn. It's 2382.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Oh.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: That's okay.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Commissioner
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Gronauer. I'll go ahead and second it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion, and we have a second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All those
in favor of approving the motion, please say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. Congratulations.
MR. VERLEY: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Have
a good day.
Agenda item number 18, Envista Forensics, LLC,
applying for a new private investigator license. If
approved, David A. Dionisi -- and I apologize if I
mispronounced it -- is requesting to transfer his
qualifying agent status from PT&C Forensic Consulting
Services, PA, dba, Envista Forensics, license number
1375. Members to be approved is Michael J. Driscoll.
Subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. DIONISI: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you realize
you're under oath?
MR. DIONISI: Yes, sir.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Please press your
button. Okay. Who are you, and why are you here?
MR. DIONISI: I am David Dionisi. So you were
pretty close on the last name pronunciation. I'm the
qualifying agent here for Envista Forensics.
And, basically, what this is is a rebrand from
PT&C to a name change to Envista, Envista Forensics.
Mr. Driscoll is the -- will be the officer on the
paperwork. He's our -- he's the vice president of the
fire unit. He lives over in Florida.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions from the Board?
All right. Any public comment?
Okay. I'll entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Envista Forensics, LLC,
who is applying for a new private patrolman -- private
investigator's license. If approved, David A. --
MR. DIONISI: Dionisi.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: -- Dionisi is requesting
to transfer his qualifying agent status from PT&C
Forensic Consulting Services PA, dba, Envista Forensics,
license number 1375. Member to be approved is
Michael J. Driscoll. This would be subject to statutory
and regulatory requirements, if approved.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a motion.
Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I second it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have I second.
Any further discussion?
All right. I will entertain a motion. I'm
sorry. We already have a motion. I'll accept a vote.
All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed,
say --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Aye.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's our motion, yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So let's do that
again. All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. The motion carries.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, I want to go home.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good luck to you.
You have a good day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Holy moly.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We are a mess.
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We were a mess.
All right. Let's try this. Number 19, Silver
Shields Protection & Investigations, LLC, applying for a
new private investigator and private patrolman license.
If approved, Richard Shields, license number 1804, is
requesting that his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Member to be approved, Roxanna L. Shields. Subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements. For possible
action.
Mr. Shields, good morning. It's been quite a
while.
MR. SHIELDS: Good morning to you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Do you
understand you're under oath?
MR. SHIELDS: Yes, I do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Is your button
on?
MR. SHIELDS: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Why
are you here, and what do you want to do?
MR. SHIELDS: Exactly what you've just said,
Silver Shields Protection & Investigations. I'm
applying for a new private investigator and private
patrolman license, and if approved, license number 1804,
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requesting that the individual licensed be placed into
abeyance so that I may become the qualifying agent.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
question from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I just want to make a
statement. I've known Rick Shields for quite some time,
I think because of our past lives in law enforcement and
stuff. I have no problem. We don't go out drinking or
doing anything together. I have no problem. I know him
to be an outstanding, honorable person. I won't have no
problem voting on this.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, and this is
Ray Flynn. And for the record, I, too, because of my
prior life in law enforcement, know Rick Shields. And
his reputation is outstanding. But we didn't hang out
or drink. We're just professional. So I have no issue
voting on this matter.
MR. SHIELDS: Thank you very much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you know him?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I don't know him. Nice to
meet you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I won't tell you a
story. Actually, several stories. I'll make a motion.
Wherever in the heck we're at. I don't know. 19.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Before we do
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that, is there any public comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll entertain a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I'll make a motion. Silver Shields Protection &
Investigations, LLC is applying for a new private
investigator and private patrolman license. If
approved, Richard Shields, license number 1804, is
requesting that his individual license be placed in
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Member to be approved is Roxanna L. Shields. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, Board counsel.
Board member, I'm sorry. Was that a motion to
approve? I'm sorry.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're not listening.
I said I make a motion to approve. Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion to approve. Commissioner Nixon did second it.
Do we have any further discussion?
Seeing no further discussion, I will call for a
vote. All those in favor of approval of the motion,
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please say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Congratulations, Rick. You have a good day.
MR. SHIELDS: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Keep up the great
work.
MR. SHIELDS: All right.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Item number 20,
Metro One Loss Prevention Services Group (West Coast),
Inc. is applying for a new private patrolman license.
If approved, Adam Wertsbaugh, license number 2600, is
requesting that his individual license be kept in
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Corporate officers to be approved are Brandon Carrabba
and Vincent Carrabba. This is subject to all statutory
and regulatory requirements.
Good morning, gentlemen.
MR. WERTSBAUGH: Good morning, Mr. Chair.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are your buttons
on?
MR. WERTSBAUGH: Mine is, yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And you
understand you're under oath, both of you?
MR. SACCO: I do.
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MR. WERTSBAUGH: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Why
are you here, and what do you want to do?
MR. WERTSBAUGH: Well, my name is Adam
Wertsbaugh. And I am seeking approval to have my
license number, 2600, kept in abeyance to become the QA,
or qualified agent, for Metro One Loss Prevention
Services Group (West Coast), Inc.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any questions of
the -- do you have anything you want to say, sir?
MR. SACCO: My name's Nicholas Sacco. I'm here
to represent the owners in case there's any questions
that you might have. I flew in from New York just to be
here to make sure everything went okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: That was going to
be my guess.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I thought it was
Jersey.
MR. SACCO: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: But, anyway.
MR. SACCO: I do live in New Jersey, but I work
in New York.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It rubbed off on you.
All right. Anyway, yeah, this is Commissioner
Gronauer. I do have a question. Where is Mr. Carrabba?
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MR. SACCO: Who is it?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Was it Brandon?
MR. SACCO: Brandon and Vincent Carrabba,
they're brothers. They own the company.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah. Where's Brandon?
MR. SACCO: Where are they? They're in
New York.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Is there a reason
they're not here?
MR. SACCO: I had emailed the corporate
headquarters to let them know that I would be out here
to represent them.
MR. WERTSBAUGH: We emailed Gisela, and she
said that they did not have to be here.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, I have some
questions. And, I think, they may be answered by the
investigator. If that's good, then I'm okay with it.
All right. I have a question on Mr. Carrabba.
There is the tax forms, documents dated 6-4-2019. And,
you know, 6-4-2019 was just a couple months ago. And
I'm trying to figure out if that's taken care of, not
taken care of.
MR. SACCO: From what I understand --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm talking to my
investigator right now.
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MR. SACCO: Oh, I'm sorry.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Because you can't
answer for Mr. Carrabba, I don't believe. All right.
Even though you're from Jersey.
MR. SACCO: You're right, sir.
MS. SWARTHOUT: Investigator Swarthout. The
documents that Brandon Carrabba sent in to us had a
May 30th, 2018 when he started a payment plan. From
when I talked to him on the phone, he was able to
provide an updated one saying that it's in a certificate
of good standing. But it does not show that it has been
completely paid off yet. He had 20 payments to make.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. He talked to you
over the phone. Did he send you any paperwork stating
that?
MR. SWARTHOUT: Yes, he did.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I don't think it's
proper for me to put it on the investigator if he feels
comfortable with this or not. It's going to be up to us
to make the decision. And with that decision, I have a
problem, because I'd like to see that. He still has
payments to be made. Nothing's clear. And previously,
on things like warrants and charges and fines that
weren't cleared by time we had our hearing, I always
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know, I have to deny the request. That's on my part.
So I will make that motion, if a motion's ready
to come in. I'll wait for the public comment, whatever
you want to do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We'll get
there.
All right. Any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I have one for legal, but.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, you want a
sidebar?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. She
has a question for legal, and we're going to go to
sidebar for a second.
(There was a discussion off the record.)
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions from the Board?
Seeing no -- yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm going to have to --
I just received some information here, which
confirmation -- the Department of Taxation. There's an
agreement here, Department of Taxation and Finance, a
confirmation of automatic payment deductions for your
installment payment agreement. Mr. Carrabba has to pay
$4,000 a month for a total of 20 months. So far, he has
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made -- since April, he's made each month, April of
2018, he's made each month deduction. And he still has
a remaining balance of -- whatever that is, $4,000
there. The automatic payments is a good thing. But
they could be also, you know, stopped at any time. But
I don't think the government would allow that.
But I'm at a crossroads with this one. So
right now, it looks like Mr. Carrabba's doing the right
stuff. I wish he was here to answer for it. Because,
in person, it would make it a lot easier for me. At
this point, I just wanted to bring it up that there was
documentation sort of favoring him. But he still has a
balance. That's a big deal. Okay.
That's all, Mr. Chairman.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Mr. Chairman, Adam
Wertsbaugh worked for me directly under Universal
Protection Services, I want to say for about a year and
a half. So at that point, I'm going to have to recuse
myself. Commissioner Nixon. Sorry.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
That puts us in a bad position for you. Because we have
a board; by law, we're supposed to have five members.
For whatever reason, the Governor's Office has not
reappointed or appointed two of our members, who are no
longer on the Board. All three of us need to vote for
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it to be a quorum. Commissioner Nixon has to recuse
herself because of a prior relationship with one of your
members. So we can't vote.
Now, what I was going to do anyway was to ask
for a postponement to get the individual here and to be
able to answer Mr. Gronauer's questions anyway. And the
only way we can do a postponement is for you to
voluntarily ask for it. Otherwise, we vote.
So we're in a stalemate. We can't do anything
at all. And you have my apologies. You do. I don't
like operating with a three-member Board any more than
any of the other Commissioners here.
So I don't know what we can do, because she
cannot vote. And I asked legal, what do we do? I mean
we have a business licensee that's asking for a
decision, which they have every right to have, and we
cannot provide it.
MR. DETMER: And Mike Detmer, acting as Board
counsel.
There's a couple options, the first one being,
which the Chairman has enumerated, which is to postpone.
The other one is -- and I actually need to research this
briefly. But if one is recusing, it may be that it just
kind of reduces the quorum. But I need to just
double-check that before I make an opinion on that.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. DETMER: If the Board would be willing to
trail, I can look that up. I have my books in front of
me, and I can.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, I'm ready
to take a quick break anyway. Some of us have been
sitting here since 8:30. So.
All right. So you understand what's going on,
I'm trying to get to a position where we can vote today,
so we can resolve this. So if it's okay with you, we're
going to take about a 10-minute break.
MR. WERTSBAUGH: That is fine.
MR. SACCO: It's fine.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And our counsel
will see what we can do when we're in a situation
without a quorum.
MR. WERTSBAUGH: I appreciate the understanding
as well from our end.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Up north,
we're going to take a 10-minute break. I'll let you
know if we need longer.
MS. KLEMME: Okay.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We are
back on the record. We took a break for a question of
our legal counsel.
And, Mike, if you don't mind, let us know what
we can and cannot do.
MR. DETMER: It would be my pleasure. Mike
Detmer, Board counsel.
With the recusal from Board Member Nixon, your
three-member quorum is now reduced to two. So your
options remain you can postpone as was discussed, or you
can actually vote. However, with a vote, for it to
pass, it has to be unanimous. So those two that are
voting, for it to pass, would both have to vote for the
approval. If you don't get that majority, then the
motion doesn't pass.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
With that said, are there any other questions from the
Board?
No other questions. So, Mr. Gronauer, are you
comfortable making a motion, or would you rather
postpone it?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I think, my questions
were answered by the investigator as being information
for me. And so I'm happy to make a -- I'm positive I
could make a motion.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: A motion to
approve?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I don't know yet.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chairman, for the record --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where the heck are we?
Okay. Number 20.
MR. INGRAM: Mr. Chairman, for the record, the
audience is having trouble hearing the Board members
speak. So if you could get just a little bit closer to
your mics, that would be appreciated. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Really? Can you hear?
Number 20. This is Gronauer. I make a motion
to approve.
Mike, are you okay with that?
Metro One Loss Prevention Services Group (West
Coast), Incorporated, is applying for a new private
patrolman license. If approved, Adam Wertsbaugh,
license number 2600, is requesting that his individual
license be kept in abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Corporate officers to be approved are
Brandon Carrabba and Vincent Carrabba. This is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I'm Ray
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Flynn. I second. And any further discussion amongst
us?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All in
favor, say "aye." Aye.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Aye.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
(Board Member Nixon recused herself from this
vote.)
Okay. Motion carries. Congratulations,
gentlemen.
MR. WERTSBAUGH: Thank you.
MR. SACCO: Thank you very much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Number 21, Tiberias Security Solutions, LLC, applying
for a new private patrolmen license. If approved, Barak
Kessler, license number 2041, is requesting that his
individual license be placed into abeyance so that he
may become the qualifying agent. Members to be approved
are Larry E. Kessler. Subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. For possible action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. KESSLER: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Is your button
on?
MR. KESSLER: Yes, sir.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. KESSLER: Absolutely.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Who
you are and why you're here.
MR. KESSLER: I am Barak Kessler, and I am here
to be the qualifying agent for Tiberias Security
Solutions, LLC.
ACTING BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions of the Board?
Any questions of the audience, or public
comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Commissioner Gronauer.
I make a motion to approve. Tiberias Security
Solutions, LLC is applying for a new private patrolman
license. If approved, Barak Kessler, license number
2041, is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Member to be approved is Larry E.
Kessler. Subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
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motion. We have a second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All those
in favor of the motion, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations.
MR. KESSLER: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have a good
day.
Number 22, Watermark Enterprises, Incorporated,
dba Watermark Investigations & Protection Group,
applying a new private patrolman license. If approved,
John A. Avila, license number 2001, is the qualifying
agent. This is -- he's requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent. Subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. For possible action.
Is Mr. Avila here or up north?
MS. KLEMME: He's not up north.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do we have any
questions -- okay. Thank you.
Do we have any questions for this individual?
I didn't.
All right. Seeing no questions from the Board,
any public comment?
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All right. Seeing none, I'll entertain a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: And since Mr. Avila is not
here, I move -- this is Commissioner Nixon. I move that
we postpone a vote for Watermark Enterprises, Inc., dba,
Watermark Investigations & Protective Group, for a new
private patrolman license.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Commissioner
Gronauer. I second it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion. We've a second. Any further discussion?
Okay. All those in favor of postponing item 22
to the next meeting, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. That agenda item's been postponed
till the next meeting.
Number 23, Serve Vegas, LLC, applying for a new
process server license. If approved, Nicholas Ohlson,
license number 1914, is requesting that his individual
license be placed in abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements.
Is Mr. Ohlson here, or up north?
MS. KLEMME: He's not up north.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Did
we have any questions for Mr. Ohlson?
All right. Any public comment?
Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion from the
Board.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Commissioner
Gronauer. I make a motion to postpone number 23. Serve
Vegas, LLC is applying for a new process service
license. If approved, Nicholas Ohlson, license number
1914, is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he my become the qualifying
agent. Subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. If he was here, it might be a different
story.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion, and we have a second for postponement.
Any further discussion?
Seeing none, call for a vote. All in favor of
postponing item number 23, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries.
Number 24, D Executive Protection,
Incorporated, applying for a new private patrolman
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license. If approved, Dexter Jasper, license number
1844, requesting that his individual license be placed
into abeyance so that he may become the qualifying
agent. Subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. For possible action.
Good morning. Mr. Jasper?
MR. JASPER: Yes, sir. Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Is your button
on?
MR. JASPER: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you understand
you're under oath?
MR. JASPER: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Why are
you here?
MR. JASPER: I am requesting a change of status
from D Executive Protection to D Executive Protection,
Inc.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So just a name
change?
MR. JASPER: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any public
comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve D Executive Protection,
Inc., who is applying for a new private patrolman
license. If approved Dexter Jasper, license number
1844, is requesting that his individual license be
placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements, if approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Commissioner
Gronauer. I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. A motion
and a second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
for approval. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carries.
MR. JASPER: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good luck to you.
Have a good day, sir.
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MR. JASPER: You, too.
All right. Number 25, Brad M. Murray,
requesting a change in licensing status. Mr. Murphy is
requesting that his individual license, license number
1726, be kept in abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for Beach City Investigations &
Protection Services Beach Cities Protective Services,
Inc., license number 2122. He's also requesting a
corporate name change from Beach City Investigations &
Protection Services Beach Cities Protective Services,
Inc. to Beach City Investigation and Protective
Services, Inc. That actually makes a lot of sense to
me. Corporate officer to be approved is Ronald J.
Blackstone. Subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. For possible action.
Good morning. Is your button on?
MR. CARLSON: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. CARLSON: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Who
you are and why you're here.
MR. CARLSON: My name is Michael Carlson. I am
the executive vice president for Beach Cities Protective
Services. And I'm here to get approval for a qualifying
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manager and, also, a corporate name change.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
Any questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I'm fine.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Seeing none, any public comment?
No public comment. I'll call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Brad M. Murray, who is
requesting a change of licensing status. Mr. Murray is
requesting that his individual license, license number
1726, is kept in abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for Beach City Investigations &
Protection Services Beach Cities Protective Services,
Inc., license number 2122. He is also requesting a
corporate name change from Beach City Investigations &
Protection Services Beach Cities Protective Services,
Inc. to Beach City Investigation and Protective
Services, Inc. Corporate officer to be approved is
Ronald J. Blackstone. If approved, this is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Gronauer. I
second.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. I have a second. Any further discussion?
Okay. All those in favor of the motion, say
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carries. Congratulations,
sir. Have a good day.
MR. CARLSON: Thank you.
MR. INGRAM: It's going to be a lot easier to
fit on the corporate --
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Right.
MR. CARLSON: It's a mess. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Private investigator category. Number 26, Five Diamond
Screening, LLC, applying for a new corporate private
investigator license. Arne Ogaard is applying for an
individual private investigator license. If approved,
he is requesting that his individual license be placed
into abeyance so that he may become the qualifying
agent. Members to be approved are Arne Ogaard,
Catherine J. Aldrich and Jordan A.G. Robusto. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
Good morning, sir.
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MR. OGAARD: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Is your button
on?
MR. OGAARD: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. OGAARD: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Who
you are and why you're here.
MR. OGAARD: I'm Arne Ogaard. I'm applying for
a private investigator's license and to become the
qualifying agent for Five Diamond Screening.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: There's quite a few
people on this one, right, Aldrich, Ogaard and Robusto?
MR. OGAARD: I'm sorry, sir?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: There's two other
people involved, right?
MR. OGAARD: Correct.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Is there a
reason they're not here?
MR. OGAARD: Yes. I spoke to and I sent an
email to the PILB down on Durango, and they said it was
not necessary for them to be here today.
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. All right.
Thank you.
No further, Mr. Chair.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any public
comment on this -- oh, I'm sorry.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I'm sorry.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: My apologies.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: It's okay. I had a quick
question for the investigator. It seemed like
Mr. Ogaard had some negative information come up on his
background. Could we clarify that, and has been it been
taken care of, clarify what that was?
MR. MAXWELL: Investigator Maxwell. Yes, that
was the two bankruptcies. And they were taken care of.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yeah, I'm good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
public comment?
All right. Seeing no one, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that Five Diamond Screening, LLC, who is
applying for a new corporate private investigator's
license, Arne Ogaard, who is applying for an individual
private investigator's license, if approved, he is
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requesting that his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Members to be approved are Arne Ogaard, Catherine
Aldrich and Jordan A.G. Robusto. This is subject -- if
approved, this is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
further discussion from the Board?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
for approval. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
opposed?
The motion carried. Congratulations, sir.
MR. OGAARD: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Thank you. Have a good
day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Item number 27.
Jaike Miller is applying for an individual private
investigator license. If approved, she is requesting
that her individual license be placed into abeyance so
that she may become the qualifying agent for Digistream
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Nevada, Inc., license number 1320. Corporate officers
to be approved are William Aaronson and Casey W. Gibson.
Subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
I have a funny feeling I didn't pronounce your
name correctly. Did I?
MS. MILLER: You did not.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. What
is it, for the record?
MS. MILLER: It's Jaike ("Hyk-ee") Miller.
"Hyk-ee."
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: "Hyk-ee." Okay.
MS. MILLER: M-hm (affirmative).
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: My apologies.
MS. MILLER: That' okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you understand
you're under oath?
MS. MILLER: I do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Ma'am, why
are you here, and what do you want to do?
MS. MILLER: I am trying to apply for a private
license, and I'm trying to be the agent for Digistream
Nevada.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MS. MILLER: And we do workers' comp files.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
Any questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Seeing none, any public comment on this item?
Okay. I will call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Commissioner
Gronauer. I make a motion to approve Jaike Miller.
She's applying for an individual private investigator
license. If approved, she is requesting that her
individual license be placed in abeyance so that she may
become the qualifying agent for Digistream Nevada,
Incorporated, license number 1320. Corporate officers
to be approved are William Aaronson and Casey W. Gibson.
Subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
further discussion?
All right. I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
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Okay. The motion carries. Congratulations.
MS. MILLER: Thank you very much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have a good
day.
MS. MILLER: Have a great day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Item 28, Vincent
Minecci is applying for an individual private
investigator license. If approved, he is requesting
that his individual license be placed into abeyance so
that he may become the qualifying agent for Stroz
Friedberg, LLC, license number 1784. Subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements. For possible
action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. MINECCI: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. MINECCI: Yes, I am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who you
are and why you're here.
MR. MINECCI: Hi. My name is Vincent Minecci,
and I'm applying for an individual PI license. And if
approved, I'm requesting that it be held in abeyance in
order to become the qualifying agent for Stroz
Friedberg, LLC, license number 1784.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No questions.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
public comment on this item?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Vincent Minecci, who is
applying for an individual private investigator's
license. If approved, he is requesting that his
individual license be placed into abeyance so that he
may become the qualifying agent for Stroz Friedberg --
MR. MINECCI: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: -- LLC, license number
1784. This will be subject to all statutory and
regulation requirements, if approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All those in favor, state "aye."
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(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations, sir.
MR. MINECCI: Thank you very much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Number 29,
George S. Webb is applying for an individual private
investigator license. If approved, he is requesting
that his individual license be placed into abeyance so
that he may become the qualifying agent for Claims
Verification, Inc., license number 1219. Subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
Good morning, sir.
MR. WEBB: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. WEBB: I am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. WEBB: I am George Scott Webb. I'm here
applying for my individual private investigator license.
If approved, I'm asking that it be held in abeyance so
that I could be the qualified agent for Claims
Verification, Incorporated, license number 1219.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions?
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
comments, public comments?
All right. Seeing none, I will call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that George S. Webb, who is applying for
an individual private investigator's license, be
approved. If approved, he is requesting that his
individual license be placed into abeyance so that he
may become the qualifying agent for Claims Verification,
Inc., license number 1219. If approved, this will be
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All those in favor, state "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations, sir.
MR. WEBB: Thank you very much.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Number 30, James D. McCarthy, applying for an individual
private investigator's license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent for
Donan Engineering Company, Incorporated, license number
2421. This is subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. For possible action.
Good morning, sir. Are you aware you are under
oath?
MR. MCCARTHY: Yes, I am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. MCCARTHY: I'm James McCarthy, the regional
manager for Donan Engineering. I'm applying for an
individual private investigator's license. I am
requesting that that individual license, if approved, be
placed in abeyance so that I may become the qualifying
agent for Donan Engineering.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I did have
a question. Explain the engineering, private
investigator, because I was at a loss.
MR. MCCARTHY: That's fine.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And I don't get
it.
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MR. MCCARTHY: Donan Engineering and a forensic
engineering company. We have engineering, engineers and
fire investigators. And I am the regional manager for
the West Coast. And we primarily do origin and cause
investigations for the insurance companies.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Thank you.
MR. MCCARTHY: No problem.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah. Then, as the
qualifying agent, your other employees have work cards?
MR. MCCARTHY: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Through PILB Nevada?
MR. MCCARTHY: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I wanted to make
sure.
MR. MCCARTHY: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you. Because the
ones that are doing the work, you have to make sure they
have cards.
MR. MCCARTHY: I understand that.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay.
MR. MCCARTHY: I used to have a card some years
ago for another company.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All good.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions?
Any public comment?
All right. Call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'll make a
motion. This is Gronauer. I make a motion to approve.
James D. McCarthy is applying for an individual private
investigator license. If approved, he is requesting
that his individual license be placed into abeyance so
that he may become the qualifying agent for Donan
Engineering Company, Inc., license number 2421. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We have a motion,
and we have a second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All those
in favor of the motion to approve, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations, sir.
MR. MCCARTHY: God bless.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have a good
day.
Number 31, Chad A. Mitchell, applying for an
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individual private investigator license. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
MR. MITCHELL: Hello.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good morning.
Are you aware you're under oath?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. MITCHELL: I'm Chad Mitchell. I'm here to
apply for an individual private investigator's license.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any questions
from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you retired?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: From law enforcement?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Henderson, correct?
MR. MITCHELL: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I mean I read your
background. Have you applied for a license before,
prior?
MR. MITCHELL: No, sir. I've been just retired
for three years and just getting back into work.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. No problem.
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It's about the right time, after three years.
MR. MITCHELL: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. No
other questions. Any public comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make the motion.
Gronauer. I make a motion to approve. I'm getting good
at that. Thanks, Mike. To approve. Chad A. Mitchell
is applying for an individual private investigator
license. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
further discussion on the motion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations. Have a
good day.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thanks for showing up
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and being here. That's a good deal.
MR. MITCHELL: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: The best thing we
did was take that 10-minute break. We just went through
that whole section.
All right. We're moving on to private
patrolman. Number 32, Premier Protective Security,
Inc., applying for a new corporate private patrolman
license. Timothy R. Coleman, applying for an individual
private patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Corporate officers to be approved are Timothy R.
Coleman, James F. Labriola and Chaz B. Vetter. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
Good morning, gentlemen.
MR. COLEMAN: Good morning.
MR. LABRIOLA: Good morning, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. LABRIOLA: Yes, sir.
MR. COLEMAN: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
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MR. COLEMAN: I'm Timothy Ray Coleman. I'm the
CEO of Premier Protective Services, Incorporated.
MR. LABRIOLA: And I'm Jim Labriola. I'm COO.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. LABRIOLA: I do all the work.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: As it should be.
MR. COLEMAN: If I may, Mr. Chairman, we're
here to seek your approval for a new corporate private
patrolman license for Premier Protective Security and,
also, for me as an individual private patrolman license,
and asking for that to be held in abeyance so I can
become qualifying agent for the company.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And where are you
guys based out of?
MR. COLEMAN: Out of Nashville, Tennessee, is
where our corporate office is. We're in multiple
states.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any other
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So is the --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm sorry. Go ahead.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So is there a plan to open
a office here locally? Okay.
MR. LABRIOLA: Yes.
MR. COLEMAN: Yes, ma'am, there is. I'm
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currently an active police chief in the state of
Tennessee. I retired July 17th after 25 years with the
agency. We're just doing our due diligence, putting
everything in place, so that we are compliant and being
able to put the best product we can out there to serve
the citizens of Nevada and meet the standards of this
Board.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We pronounce our
name "Neh-vad-au."
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're from Tennessee.
MR. COLEMAN: Could I say Tennessee?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you know where we're
at?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What agency in
Tennessee?
MR. COLEMAN: I'm in the Berry Hill Police
Department, an actual city inside Nashville itself. So
it's very unique.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. COLEMAN: We gave up guitars and cowboy
boots to come see you today.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Nash-Vegas. All right. Any other questions?
And I don't have any others. All right. Any
public comment?
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Seeing none, I'll call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I'll make a
motion to approve. Premier Protective Security,
Incorporated is applying for a new corporate private
patrolman license. Timothy R. Coleman is applying for
an individual private patrolman license. If approved,
he is requesting his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Corporate officers to be approved are Timothy R.
Coleman, James F. Labriola and Chaz B. Vetter. This is
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations,
gentlemen.
MR. COLEMAN: Mr. Chairman, may I say one
thing?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yes, you may.
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MR. COLEMAN: I've sat here today listening.
And I've been in many states. I want to personally
thank the members here and to the north for what you do,
taking your time out, especially to you, Mr. Chairman,
and you, Mr. Commissioner, for your law enforcement
service and your continued service. Thank you very
much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, I appreciate
that. You have a good day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: He already got the
license.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Safe travels.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Southern gentlemen.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Number 33, Maccabee Arms, Limited, applying for a new
corporate private patrolman license. Sharon Oren is
applying for an individual private patrolman license.
If approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent. Members to be approved are Sharon
Oren and Yelena K. Oren. Subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements.
And greetings from the north.
MR. OREN: Hello, hello.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Hello. Are you
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aware you're under oath, sir?
MR. OREN: Yes, I am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. OREN: My name is Sharon ("Shah-rohn")
Oren, spelled like Sharon. It's better than Sue, but
I'm used to the abuse. I'm seeking for an individual
private patrolman license. If approved, requesting that
the individual license be placed in abeyance so that I
may become the qualifying agent for Maccabee Arms, Ltd.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any questions of
the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I'm good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Your background,
if I recall, is IDF, correct?
MR. OREN: Yeah, IDF and security services,
government and freelancing part.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Any public comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a motion
from the Board.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Maccabee Arms, Ltd., who
is applying for a new corporate private patrolman
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license. Sharon Oren is applying for an individual
private patrolman license. If approved, he is
requesting that his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent.
Members to be approved are Sharon Oren and Yelena K.
Oren. This will be subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements, if approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion and second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I will call for a vote on the
motion to approve. All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carries. Congratulations,
sir. Have a good day.
MR. OREN: Thank you much, and ma'am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Number 34. Abel B. Peralez is applying for an
individual private patrolman license. If approved, he
is requesting that his individual license be placed into
abeyance so that he may become the qualifying agent for
Aarrowhead Security, Incorporated, dba, Vet-Sec
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Protection Agency, license number 1271. Subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements. For possible
action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. PERALEZ: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How are you?
MR. PERALEZ: Doing good, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good. And you're
aware you're under oath?
MR. PERALEZ: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. PERALEZ: My name is Abel Peralez, United
States Navy former, operations manager for Vet-Sec
Protection Agency, been there for six years, requesting
for your approval to become the qualifying agent for
Vet-Sec Protection Agency here in Las Vegas.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you
for your service.
MR. PERALEZ: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What kind of
lapel pin? I can't. My eyes aren't that good.
MR. PERALEZ: Oh, it's our 25-year pin. We've
been in business for over 25 years now.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, okay. It's
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your company pin?
MR. PERALEZ: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Just a quick question on
the adverse information. Was that due to the
collections?
MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald. Yes, it was.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. I'm good. Thank
you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
public comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Abel B. --
MR. PERALEZ: Peralez.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: -- Peralez, who is
applying for an individual private patrolman license.
If approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent for Aarowhead Security, Inc., doing
business as Vet-Sec Protection Agency, license number
1271. If approved, this would be subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Second. Gronauer.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a second.
Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I will call for a vote. All those
in favor of the motion to approve, state "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations, sir.
MR. PERALEZ: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank
you, Board.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Number 35,
Cody K. Golant, applying for an individual private
patrolman license. If approved, he is requesting that
his individual license be placed into abeyance so that
he may become the qualifying agent for G4S Secure
Solutions (USA), Inc. license number 1563. Subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements. For possible
action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. GOLANT: Good morning, sir.
ACTIVE BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. GOLANT: Yes, sir.
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ACTIVE BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. GOLANT: My name is Cody K. Golant, and I
am applying for an individual private patrolman license.
I am seeking approval for abeyance so the qualifying
agent can be placed in my status for G4S Secure
Solutions.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Thank you for
your military service.
MR. GOLANT: Thank you, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You spent some
time with the Army, I see.
MR. GOLANT: 11 years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: 12.
MR. GOLANT: Yes, sir.
ACTIVE BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It was the Army. No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
public comment on the applicant?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Cody K. Golant, who is
applying for an individual private patrolman license.
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If approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent for G4S Secure Solutions (USA),
Inc., license number 1563. If approved, this is subject
to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any other
questions? I'm sorry. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a vote
for the motion to approve. All those in favor, state
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. Motion carries. Congratulations to you.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Congratulations.
MR. GOLANT: Thank you. Have a nice day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Number 36. Cory L. Rivero, applying for an individual
private patrolman license. If approved, requesting that
his individual license be placed into abeyance so that
he may become the qualifying agent for SOC Hawthorne,
LLC, license number 1357. Subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements.
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Good morning, sir.
MR. RIVERO: Good morning, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I was curious
where you'd show up when I was reading that, whether
you'd come down here or go up there. It's kind of in
the middle, isn't it?
MR. RIVERO: No, sir. Vegas is about 315 miles
from us, and Carson City is 123.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Shows you
how often I get to Hawthorne.
MR. RIVERO: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Are you
aware you're under oath?
MR. RIVERO: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. RIVERO: My name's Cory L. Rivero. I'm
applying for an individual private patrolman's license.
If approved, I'm requesting that my individual license
be placed in abeyance so that I may become the
qualifying agent for SOC Hawthorne, LLC, license number
1357.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Are you
with the military facility up there; is that where
you'll be --
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MR. RIVERO: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: -- performing the
security?
MR. RIVERO: Yes, sir. We are the operating
contractor for the Hawthorne Army Depot. And I'm the
general -- excuse me. I'm the guard operations manager
for the security unit there.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you.
Are there any other questions from the Board?
All right. Any public comment on the applicant
or the motion, or agenda item?
All right. With that, I'll call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we approve Cory L. Rivero, who is
applying for an individual private patrolman's license.
If approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent for SOC Hawthorne, LLC, license
number 1357. If approved, this is subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
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motion and a second. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations, sir.
MR. RIVERO: Thank you, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Have a good day.
MR. RIVERO: Have a great day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Number 37.
Jorge B. Blanco Wilson is applying for an individual
private patrolman license. If approved, he's requesting
that his individual license be placed into abeyance so
that he may become the qualifying agent for Picore
Beristan Initiative, Incorporated, dba, Picore
International, license number 1389. Subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements. For possible
action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. WILSON: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. WILSON: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
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MR. WILSON: My name is Jorge B. Blanco Wilson.
I'm the operation manager for Picore International. And
I'm here applying for an individual private patrolman
license. If approved, I am requesting that individual
license be placed into abeyance so that I may become the
qualifying agent for Picore International, license
number 1389.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Do you
have contracts set up in Nevada, or what type of
security do you guys to?
MR. WILSON: We are running all the T-Mobile
Metro PCS and other properties here in Las Vegas.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. The retail
stores?
MR. WILSON: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Are there
any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
public comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I'll make a
motion to approve. Alfredo Rivera Hernandez is applying
for an individual patrolman license, private patrolman
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license. If approved, he is... I have the wrong one.
Yeah. How did I get there?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: 37.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Well, we'll
approve the other one, too, then. I'm sorry.
Aye yie yie. Oh, I see.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: It's easy, no.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I got it. Okay.
I take that all back.
All right. This is Gronauer. I make a motion
to approve number 37. Jorge B. Blanco Wilson is
applying for an individual private patrolman license.
If approved, he is requesting that his individual
license be placed into abeyance so that he may become
the qualifying agent for Picore Beristan Initiative,
Incorporated, dba, Picore International, license number
1389. This is subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion and a second. Any further discussion?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a vote
on the motion to approve. All those in favor, say
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations. Have a
good day, sir.
MR. WILSON: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Let's
try one more. Number 38. Linda C. Morrison, applying
for an individual private patrolman license. If
approved, she is requesting that her individual license
be placed into abeyance so that she may become the
qualifying agent for Rancho Security Services, LLC,
license number 875. Subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. For possible action.
Good morning to you.
MS. MORRISON: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MS. MORRISON: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MS. MORRISON: My name is Linda C. Morrison,
and I am here applying for the private patrolman
license. If approved, I would like my card to be put
into abeyance so that I can become the qualifying agent
for Rancho Security, LLC.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any questions
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from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm good.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I'm good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
I am good, too. All right. I'll entertain a motion.
Oh, I'm sorry. Any comments or questions from the
public?
Seeing none, I'll entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll try it again.
Gronauer. I make a motion to approve. Linda C.
Morrison is applying for an individual private patrolman
license. If approved, she is requesting that her
individual license be placed into abeyance so that she
may become the qualifying agent for Rancho Security
Services, LLC, license number 875. Subject to all
statutory and regulatory requirements.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion and a second. Any discussion?
All right. Seeing none, I will call for a
vote. All those in favor of the motion to approve,
state "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations. You have
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a good day.
MS. MORRISON: Thank you so much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You're welcome.
All right. Number 39 has withdrawn.
We'll move on to process server. Item
number 40. Taylor Squared Incorporated, dba, NMI is
applying for a new process server license. Taylor S.
Kruse is applying for an individual process server
license. If approved, he's requesting that his
individual license be placed into abeyance so that he
may become the qualifying agent. Corporate officers to
be approved are Taylor S. Kruse and Nancy J. Taylor.
Subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
For possible action.
Good morning.
MR. KRUSE: Good morning.
MS. TAYLOR: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. You're
aware both of you are under oath?
MR. KRUSE: Yes.
MS. TAYLOR: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who are
you, and why are you here?
MR. KRUSE: So I'm Taylor S. Kruse. I'm here
for my process serving license. And should that get
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accepted, be put into abeyance for -- or as the
qualifying agent of Taylor Squared, dba NMI.
MS. TAYLOR: I'm president of NMI.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you have a
name?
MS. TAYLOR: Nancy Taylor. I'm so sorry.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: That's okay. No
problem.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If I may add something.
Okay. I've known NMI company business, okay, for quite
a few years, from the time I was elected constable. As
far as I know, we've never gone out, never had coffee or
nothing else. Ms. Taylor runs a darned good business.
That's a true story, isn't it? That's what it is.
MS. TAYLOR: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And I know of her, for
many, many years now, probably around 20. And she's
never had a problem in her business, that I know, and
everything's always been good. So, but I don't think
I'll have a problem voting on this here subject.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Understood.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Even on the vote.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Appreciate
the comment.
All right. I don't see any other questions
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from the Board.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have one more thing.
Do you know, as qualifying agent, as I said earlier to
some other qualifying agent, that everybody that serves
your papers has to have a work card?
MR. KRUSE: Yeah, we actually have, anybody who
would be, we have some provisional cards out already.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Just so, I mean
I just want, because some people take it that it's a
license and you can do whatever you want.
MS. TAYLOR: M-hm (affirmative).
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So I wanted to make
sure. And I know Nancy knows the rules pretty darned
good. Anybody studied A.B. 151 and S.B. 151, it would
have been Nancy. And I'm sure you did, too, because
you've been with her for awhile. So I just want to make
that clear, because sometimes people think that we can
do whatever we want to.
MR. KRUSE: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Any public comment?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll --
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I can trust you. Go
ahead.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I want to make sure.
Let me see. Gronauer. I make a motion to approve.
Taylor Squared, Incorporated, dba, NMI is applying for a
new process server's license. Taylor S. Kruse is
applying for an individual process server's license. If
approved, he is requesting that his individual license
be placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Corporate officers to be approved are
Taylor S. Kruse and Nancy J. Taylor. This is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
And I appreciate you showing up, both of you.
MS. TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. KRUSE: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. I have a second. Any further
discussion?
Seeing none, I'll call for a vote on the motion
to approve. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Congratulations. The motion carries.
MS. TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
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MR. KRUSE: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Next
section, canine handler. Number 41 has postponed.
Number 42. Lawrence E. Sanchez is applying for
an individual private investigator and process server
license. I'm sorry. This is under private investigator
and process server. Lawrence E. Sanchez, applying for
an individual private investigator and process server
license. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. For possible action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. SANCHEZ: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. SANCHEZ: Yes, I do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Your name
and why you're here.
MR. SANCHEZ: Lawrence Sanchez. I applied for
a private investigator's license as well as process
serving license. And I hope to get approved.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
Any question from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I just want to -- give
me a second. Okay?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Sure.
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Please.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No problem.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I might have missed one
there. I don't know. And maybe I didn't. About 30
seconds more.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, while he's
writing, I -- there's a gap. You didn't like went into
retirement and now you're coming back?
MR. SANCHEZ: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. That was
the only question I had.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have a little more.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: It's all right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm good. I think,
that was my problem, too. I just couldn't remember
where it was in my notes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Two out of the
three of us up here are retired. Where it's supposed to
be, it's in this report.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Right. Right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
public comment on this agenda item?
All right. Seeing none, call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
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Nixon. I move that we approve Lawrence E. Sanchez, who
is applying for an individual private investigator and
process server license. If approved, this would be
subject to all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Do I have
a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll give a second.
Gronauer.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Do
you need a second, or you --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, no, no. I make --
Gronauer. I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion. We have a second.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: More coffee.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I don't see any
discussion or questions. So I'll call for a vote on the
motion to approve. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. Motion carries. Welcome back to the
workplace.
MR. SANCHEZ: Yes. Thank you. I appreciate
it. Have a good day.
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category, private investigator and private patrolman.
Number 43. Armor Network, LLC, applying for a new
private investigator and private patrolman license.
Devin C. Ballard is applying for an individual private
investigator and private patrolman license. If
approved, he is requesting that his individual license
be placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Member to be approved is Devin C.
Ballard. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements. For possible action.
I need to state that I have known Devin for
probably the majority of his career. We worked in the
same chain of commands several times. We did not
associate after work, or related, or personal
friendships beyond work. I have no issues with him. I
hope he has no issues with me, because I'm not going to
recuse myself. And I feel fine to go ahead and vote.
MR. BALLARD: Good morning. Again, my name is
Devin --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. BALLARD: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have to ask you
that.
MR. BALLARD: Yes, sir.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Excuse me, Mr. Ballard.
MR. BALLARD: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do we know each other?
MR. BALLARD: We do.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. That's what I
thought. And we never hung out and did all that stuff,
either?
MR. BALLARD: No, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And I'm going, I know
this guy. I forgot for a little while, but, you know.
MR. BALLARD: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'm sorry,
Mr. Ballard. I just wanted to make sure. And we're all
good.
MR. BALLARD: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Now what do you want?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Who are you, and
why are you here?
MR. BALLARD: I'm Devin Ballard. I'm applying
for a private investigator and private patrolman
license. And if approved, I'm asking that the license
be held in abeyance so I can become the qualifying
agent.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any
questions from the Board?
All right. Any public comment on the
applicant?
All right. Seeing none, I will call for a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I'll make a
motion to approve. Armor Network, LLC is applying for a
new private investigator and private patrolman license.
Devin C. Ballard is applying for an individual private
investigator and private patrolman license. If
approved, he is requesting that his individual license
be placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent. Member to be approved is Devin C.
Ballard. This is subject to all statutory and
regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. Do I have second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All
those -- any further discussion?
Seeing none, any -- let's do a call for a vote
on the motion to approve. All those in favor, state
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations to you.
MR. BALLARD: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Have a good day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: We know how to retire.
We just don't want to.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Next
category, private patrolman and canine handler.
Number 44 was postponed.
Number 45. James N. McCollum is applying for
an individual private patrolman and canine license. If
approved, he is requesting that his individual license
be placed into abeyance so that he may become the
qualifying agent for K2 Solutions, Incorporated, license
number 2631. Subject to all statutory and regulatory
requirements. For possible action.
Good morning, sir.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you aware
you're under oath?
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir, I am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Who are you, and
why are you here?
MR. MCCOLLUM: My name is James McCollum. I'm
the -- for the state of Nevada, I would be representing
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K2 Solutions based out of Southern Pines, North
Carolina. I'm a resident here. I was hired here to
represent them as a canine handler. So I am applying
for the private patrolman and canine licensing. If
approved, to be in abeyance so that I might be the
representative.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. How long
have you lived here?
MR. MCCOLLUM: I've lived here -- the first of
the year, it'll be two years. I'm almost at my two-year
point now.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm going to have to
put it off to you, Ray, when it comes to the canine
stuff. All right. Because I don't know, if he's here
two years, how he's been certified and all that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. MCCOLLUM: I could answer any questions you
want, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yes. Explain
your experience in canine.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Okay. My law enforcement
background, I did everything but canine, you know,
gangs, all the narcotics, in jail, all that stuff. So I
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had a variety of background. K2, they specialize in
explosive detection as well as some other things, a lot
of stuff overseas. Here, they are doing a lot of vapor
dogs. So that's what I was -- they hired me. They sent
me to North Carolina. It's about 45 minutes outside of
Ft. Bragg, military base company, retired and all that.
So they hired me. They sent me to their school,
assigned me to the dog. So I specialize in a dog that
is -- not only does static area, but he also will
identify anybody that's been handling explosives or have
handled or has explosives on them.
So that is what I'm specialized in training,
sir. So they sent me to their school, assigned me the
dog, and then brought me back to the city of Las Vegas.
Because I was hired out of Las Vegas for a position that
they had, and I'm currently working at the Hoover Dam.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you a licensed
canine handler now?
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir, I am licensed through
IPWDA, which is International Police Working Dog
Association. And I just passed, last week I just passed
the city of Las Vegas's, or the state test as well.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, who's the
investigator on this?
MR. SWARTHOUT: Investigator Swarthout.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And which agency
did the testing for this individual?
MR. SWARTHOUT: We did the testing through the
Las Vegas Convention Center with Woody Chan, who's
POST-certified for it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So not
only does -- so you understand how this process works,
not only do they investigate, verifies the training, we
actually, we -- we did it with Metro for years, and now
we're doing it with the Convention Authority.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I know about that. I
just want to make sure your dog did it.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir. And if I may say, it
was not easy. Woody did a great job. It's not an easy
test.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have two
questions.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Why did you --
what police agency were you with?
MR. MCCOLLUM: I was with City of Gainesville,
Florida. Not the university. I was with the City of
Gainesville, Florida for 10 and a half years. And I was
also bonded through the Alachua County Sheriff's Office
when I was working gangs.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And why did you
leave?
MR. MCCOLLUM: A lot of personal issues I had
at the time. And I was going to retire from there. I
had 10 and a half years. And then I just I just quit.
I opened up my -- I had a private investigation agency
there for about two years in Florida. Our work was not
good, and I just moved on after a few years to come out
here. My cousin invited me out here to work with him,
but then he had some issues as well. So I got back into
security and ran into an opportunity to work for K2,
sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And how
did you -- I mean they're minor amounts, but you have a
lot.
MR. MCCOLLUM: They're very minor. There were
six that the investigator addressed. I believe, there's
six or seven.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yes.
MR. MCCOLLUM: As soon as I got full, I paid
three off in full.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Right.
MR. MCCOLLUM: I took care of them right away.
I'm currently paying another one off here that was $656.
I paid 150 of that off in the last week and a half. The
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1,600 one, or 656, that is in dispute right now. And
then there is one collection agency there, I think, for
a propane company for a couple hundred dollars. I'm
trying to pay them off, but that company I can't get
ahold of. So I told the investigator this morning what
I'm going to have to do is reach out to the company back
in Florida, see if I can take care of it through them.
If not, can they get me in touch with the collection
agency.
But just in the last few weeks, I've paid
probably almost half of everything that I owe off.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, that, what
was unusual compared to other applicants --
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: -- was the small
amounts on this.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And I'm like,
what, and I don't -- how did you get there with just
these small amounts?
MR. MCCOLLUM: Honestly, when I left law
enforcement and went to work for myself, and I just went
through some hard times. I had a son that had a bad
drug problem. And I just couldn't get work. And I
was -- you know, I had to move. I just didn't have
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work. So that's when I moved out here. So I ended up
owing a cable company, a phone company, a propane
company, something like that. So it was just little
things that companies that you ask for their services,
to live, just like anywhere else.
And so there was multiple of them. But the
good thing is there was multiple, and they're not large
amounts. They're very easy to pay off. And I'm almost
done with everything. Except the biggest one's the one
that's in dispute for 1,600.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. And
the investigator, anything you want to add on the
financials?
MR. SWARTHOUT: No, he did provide documents,
which he also has. He did show them to me today, that
he does have three of them that are paid off and one of
them that he's making payments on.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
MR. MCCOLLUM: And as I said, sir, the one that
I'm trying to contact, and I'm probably going to reach
out to the actual company for that put it in collection,
see if I can't pay that. Because when you look the
company up and you try and contact them, there's just no
contact information.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. My
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main question, I mean you explained how you got here.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: It just was
unusual to see such small amounts that went to
collection.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And you explained
the reason why.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I appreciate
that. Our Executive Director's got a question.
MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Did I understand you to say you are currently
working as a canine handler --
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
MR. INGRAM: -- at Hoover Dam?
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir, I'm at the Hoover Dam,
K2 Solutions. The Hoover Dam needed a dog. The
National Park Service has a dog, but it only does static
work. And, of course, they're spread so thin, they're
all over the place. And their job is not to maintain
one position, obviously. They have to be out there
patrolling and doing services for the state and the
federal government.
So the Hoover Dam, the Bureau of Reclamation,
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they needed a canine. So they put it out to bid. And
then K2 got the bid. So they put somebody out there
temporarily until I finished school. I replaced that
young lady that was out there. Our contract is up
October 1st. It's out to bid. We're hoping to get it,
because it's, ideally it's a canine handler's dream to
be working in that position.
MR. INGRAM: So do you currently hold a
registered work card with us?
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir. Prior to doing,
hiring with K2, when I first came out here, I started
doing security work. So I had a card, you know, your
work card prior to that, so.
MR. INGRAM: Perfect. Thank you.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir.
MR. INGRAM: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
That's all the questions I have. Any other questions?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah. In the short
time that you've been here now -- is it about two years,
two and a half years, you've been in Nevada?
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir. Well, two years,
well, end of January will be two years for me here in
Las Vegas.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Have you had any
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problems with the police departments in the area?
MR. MCCOLLUM: No, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Been cited, anything?
MR. MCCOLLUM: No, sir, never been pulled over,
never cited. I've called law enforcement a couple
times. And I have to say, compared to Florida law
enforcement, Henderson and Metro, I'm very impressed
with the way they handle things, so.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, I'm impressed
that you were an Army guy, I mean a Marine on an Army
base. I don't know.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Well, actually, I was never on
an Army base. They hired --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I understand.
MR. MCCOLLUM: -- going out there, near Fort
Bragg. And, you know, the owner of the company, he
stopped me in North Carolina. He's retired Delta Force.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It's a good place to
be.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yes, sir, it is, it's a good
place.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I have
nothing else. You mentioned some kind of -- well, I do
have something else. You mentioned some kind of a --
you had a little run-in with some drugs at a time?
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MR. MCCOLLUM: Oh, no, no. My son, he's in
recovery, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, okay.
MR. MCCOLLUM: He's been, my son --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Now I get it. Okay.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yeah, that was why I was
struggling a lot, I mean to be a single parent. My son
was just out of high school at the time, and it was a
big struggle.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I missed that whole
thing there.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's okay. God bless
you. No problem. Okay. I'm done.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Any other
questions from the Board?
All right. Any public comment on this agenda
item?
All right. Seeing none, I'll entertain a
motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Commissioner Nixon. I
move that we approve James N. McClellan --
MR. MCCOLLUM: McCollum, yes.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: -- McCollum, who is
applying for an individual private patrolman and canine
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handler license. If approved, he is requesting that his
individual license be placed into abeyance so that he
may become the qualifying agent for K2 Solutions, Inc.,
license number 2631. If approved, this is subject to
all statutory and regulatory requirements.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. I have a second. Any further
discussion?
All right. Seeing none, I'll call for a vote
on the motion to approve. All those in favor, state
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
The motion carries. Congratulations.
MR. MCCOLLUM: Thank you. Take care,
everybody. Appreciate your time.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Before we get into registration appeals, I want to bring
something up to my fellow Commissioners. And this is
directly as a result of the fact that there's only three
of us, that, for whatever reason, the Governor's Office
has not moved on a long-term vacancy we've had, nor have
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they moved on a re-upping another member, which they've
known for awhile that term was going to come up. I feel
we're at the point that it will affect our efficiency as
well as affect the service that we can provide the
citizens of Nevada.
So what I would like to do, with your support,
and I'm going to put it as a motion, is I will send a
letter under the PILB letterhead to the Governor
himself. I will get involved so we don't have to worry
about Kevin and the chain of command and all that. I
believe that the Governor is unaware. And people
underneath him are not doing what I would expect them to
do. And that's my word, it's nobody else's. But
enough's enough. We've went multiple, multiple meetings
now.
So I will -- what?
(There was a discussion off the record.)
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I can't do
a motion. I'm going to give a directive. But I want to
let you guys in on it so there's no surprises.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. And
if you want to verbally approve or offer me counsel, we
can do that, too.
But in that letter, I want to, for your staff
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to draft out on your letterhead stating how long these
vacancies have been open, the fact that it is affecting
our efficiency to schedule meetings as well as meet the
needs of the citizens of Nevada, my belief that he
personally is unaware of our situation, and the number
of times that you have attempted to address.
And if we can get this, I can sign it tomorrow,
or sometime where we're meeting tomorrow, if that's
something you want to get done. All right.
But if my commissioners -- I'm just seeking
your support.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I might have stepped
out-of-bounds. I contacted Aaron Ford, the Attorney
General. And he says he really, he's looking at all the
boards, and he really wasn't aware how dire our
situation was. And that was about three weeks ago.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: But I've been out of
town, so I haven't had any contact.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No problem.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If you don't mind,
because I do that sometimes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No, I don't mind.
But I want to let you know that I will be sending it
under our letterhead.
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Great.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Are
you good with that, Tammy?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. All
right. Now, let us take --
MR. INGRAM: 15.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Let's take 15
minutes. And we have the appeals the rest of the
afternoon.
So up north, for the stenographer, rest your
fingers. And the rest of us, let's relax for a few
minutes. Thank you.
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(A break was taken, 11:28 to 11:48 a.m.)
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you guys
ready up north?
MS. KLEMME: Yes, we are.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Good
afternoon. This is Ray Flynn. And we are going into
the registration appeals process of the Private
Investigators Licensing Board meeting.
For those that are here, if you were not sworn
in this morning to testify, please stand, and we will
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swear you in.
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, for the record.
For those of you that are standing, if you
could please raise your right hand.
MR. INGRAM: Anyone that's currently here for
an appeal hearing, you'll need to stand and raise your
right hand.
MR. DETMER: For those you that are testifying,
do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth?
(All applicants and witnesses present in
Las Vegas and Carson City were sworn/affirmed.)
MR. DETMER: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. The first
one is item number 46, Wayne Byrd. Is Wayne here?
Okay. We will trail that one.
Number 47. I apologize. I'll just go by the
last name. Dupre? Is Dupre here? Yes, please come
forward, sir.
Good morning. How do you pronounce your first
name?
MR. DUPRE: Etienne ("a-teen").
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Good
morning to you.
All right. And, ma'am, you are?
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MS. DUPRE: I'm Elise Dupre, his mother.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: His mother.
Okay. Your buttons are on, both of you?
MR. DUPRE: Mine says it's turned on.
MS. DUPRE: Mine says it's on, too, so.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Good enough. All right. Are you here for moral
support, or will you be testifying on behalf of him?
MS. DUPRE: Both.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Moms are
allowed to do that.
MS. DUPRE: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Who's
the investigator on this one?
MR. MAXWELL: Investigator Maxwell.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Maxwell, what do we got, and why?
MR. MAXWELL: In September of 2017, in the
state of Nevada, the applicant was arrested for
attempted burglary at felony level. The disposition was
a minimum of 24 months, maximum 60 months in Nevada
Department of Corrections. He did disclose it on his
application and, also, provided court documents and the
police report. This was all confirmed using SCOPE, the
court documents, police report and the fingerprint
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Mr. Dupre, let's hear your -- why do you want to go into
security work?
MR. DUPRE: The reason I --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: After being
convicted as a felon less than two years ago?
MR. DUPRE: The reason why I want to go into
security work is because of the simple fact I feel like
it's a career that is going to have me being able to
gain stability and for me not to even engage in my
environment that I used to be around, me changing myself
as a person mentally and just better as a person. And I
feel like that my past. I was 18 during the time. I
just turned 20 years old recently. And I feel like me
being young, it's an opportunity for me to get a career
going for myself. That's why I'm stepping into this
field, or attempting to.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Well,
why don't explain the circumstances of your burglary to
me.
MR. DUPRE: The circumstances of my burglary,
like the story behind it, or?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yes, please.
MR. DUPRE: Well, to be honest with you,
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just --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, I hope so.
You're under oath.
MR. DUPRE: Just being led by the blind.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Just what?
MR. DUPRE: Just being led by the blind really,
as in like the influence.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Who did you
burglarize?
MR. DUPRE: I burglarized a home.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: A home,
somebody's home you broke into?
MR. DUPRE: I didn't enter the house, but, yes,
somebody's home.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Are you
still under probation?
MR. DUPRE: Yes, I am.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How long are you
on probation for?
MR. DUPRE: Till April next year, 2020.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I'll let
the -- we have never granted a work card to somebody
under felony probation, just so you know.
MR. DUPRE: Yes, sir.
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see what my other Board members want. I don't want you
to think that you're being singled out for any reason.
But we might do something where we'll allow you to come
back. Okay?
MR. DUPRE: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, please.
Mr. Dubre, you're -- Mr. Dupre. I'm sorry.
You're, what, 20 years old now?
MR. DUPRE: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. How much time
did you build?
MR. DUPRE: Did I do inside?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah.
MR. DUPRE: I did a year and two months.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And how long
have you been out?
MR. DUPRE: I've been out for seven months now.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have you been employed
anywhere?
MR. DUPRE: Yes. I was employed at Healy's
Electric. Because I was finishing out my sentence at
Cassie Reilly (phonetic spelling), which is a halfway
house out here. And I had four months at the halfway
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house. And I was able to obtain a job. I was working
for Healy's Electric from, I believe, was it September
of last year? Yeah. And I finished out my time in the
Healy's Electric while I was at the halfway house. I
was working there till February of this year.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. You're still
employed there?
MR. DUPRE: No.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Because your
time's -- okay. I understand.
MR. DUPRE: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I get that. Have you
applied for any jobs anywhere else?
MR. DUPRE: Yes. I was applying for different
places, at construction companies for awhile. But then
I started to lose like interest in it. You know, I like
I say, I feel like this would be a field for me to
participate in due the fact that I know a few of them
are also participating in security work. And they have
armed position, armed license. I know that I can't go
for an armed license because of my felon position. But
that seems like a craft that I'd actually like to take
on, just the fact of the advice that I received from it.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If you were so to get
a work card, do you have a job lined up?
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MR. DUPRE: Currently? Yes. I had already
paid online for my PILB license, I believe. It was $125
for the fee and everything. I had to pay for that. I
had met with someone at, it was Allied Universal. And I
spoke with them. And I forgot his name. I think, his
name is Alex, if I'm not mistaken. But he was talking
about me, how he would have a job lined up at McCarran
Airport Transit, if everything went as planned.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you married at this
time?
MR. DUPRE: Do I have a son?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you married?
MR. DUPRE: No.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Do you have any
children?
MR. DUPRE: None.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where do you live?
MR. DUPRE: Right now, I currently live -- like
streetwise, or?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where are you staying?
MR. DUPRE: Oh, yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Make it easy.
MR. DUPRE: I stay with my mother.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: With mom?
MR. DUPRE: Yes.
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's okay. That's
good. How many other people are in the house?
MR. DUPRE: Just myself.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. It's just
tough because of the time and distance right now.
MR. DUPRE: No, I understand.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It's a little tough.
And, you know, it's so hard on a young man. But I was
just trying to figure out what we would do. Because
we've never, as the Chairman said, this short amount of
time. Plus, you're 20 years old. And you're going to
be off paper when?
MR. DUPRE: April, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Thank you. I'm
sorry. Thank you.
MR. DUPRE: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: To just be clear,
currently, you're not working?
MR. DUPRE: Currently, I am not working.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I don't have
anything. Mom, is there anything that you want to say?
MS. DUPRE: Well, currently, he still goes to
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Hope for Prisoners, and they still send him out him out
on jobs. So he's still looking for jobs. And he goes
where they send him. But it's just like where they send
him, the last one he had, it was like they wanted him to
do telemarketing outside. And so I told him just to
continue to look, never give up, because everyone makes
mistakes.
And he always wants to help people. And the
problem with him was, like I said, like he said, he got
in with the wrong crowd is why. His ex-friend that he
hadn't seen in years just popped up at the house.
So he's a really good kid. I'm not saying it
just because I'm his mother. Because I'm always on his
case telling him, you know, go back to school, which
he's trying to do, also. Because when he got in
trouble, he was going to school for IT. So he's still
trying to work his way up so he can do better. And I
think that's what really counts. And he has such good
role models.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you.
Mike, I don't believe we take public comment on
appeals, do we?
MR. DETMER: It's at the pleasure of the Board.
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we have.
MR. DETMER: Yeah, we don't.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
I don't see any other questions from the Board.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have questions.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where were you living,
where were you staying at the time of the burglary, what
address?
MR. DUPRE: I was staying with my cousin.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where?
MR. DUPRE: Over on Boulder in the Northtown
area.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I can't hear you.
MR. DUPRE: Over in the Northtown area.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. This is a
tough situation.
MR. DUPRE: Yeah, I do understand.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Because I do like you.
I mean I really do. Just off the hand, you could see
that. And you got a good mom. There's no doubt in my
mind. It's just that that is a jacket put on you for a
little bit that you put on yourself, which come with
young mistakes. Okay. We understand that. It's just
that it's a tough situation. And then, because
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everybody is remorseful afterwards. And, I think, you
were remorseful from the beginning. But we just have to
figure this out. And right now, I have a hard time at
this moment to -- well, let's wait and see what the
Board does.
And I'm done with everything.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Well,
what I'll do is I'll through out a motion. I'm going to
make the motion that we deny, but you can come back in a
year. You come back in a year, and you will be off
probation at that time. And that'll give us some more
time and distance, and see what you've done with your
life since then. So that's my motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. I have a second. Any other, further
discussion?
Okay. All in favor, state "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. Keep your nose clean. We will see you
in a year.
MR. DUPRE: Thank you, sir.
MS. DUPRE: Thank you.
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probation.
MR. DUPRE: And God bless. Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Get off paper. And try
to get a job, any job. I don't care where. There's
nothing wrong with working at McDonald's, see. It's
good benefits, and they pay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I worked at
McDonald's.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, there's nothing
wrong with that. So I'm just looking at it. You know,
it's tough for you because of the situation. But you're
a gentleman. So try to keep that in mind.
MS. DUPRE: I do my best to raise him to be
that way.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're doing a good
job. You could see that. He's humbled. He's
definitely humbled by it, so.
MS. DUPRE: Yeah. Well, I think, another thing
is because I'm almost done with my B.A. in criminal
justice and a minor in psychology.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: God bless you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Have a good day.
All right. Number 48, Marcus Hinton.
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Mr. Hinton, good morning to you.
MR. HINTON: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You realize
you're under oath?
MR. HINTON: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who is the
investigator on this?
MR. MAXWELL: Investigator Maxwell.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Maxwell, what do you got?
MR. MAXWELL: In July of 2010, in California,
the applicant was charged with grand theft from a person
at the felony level. The disposition was 210 days jail
with three years probation. They did disclose on the
application. And this was confirmed using the
fingerprint report.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Mr. Hinton, what
have you been doing with your life since July 29th of
2010?
MR. HINTON: Well, since then, I've been like
in like multiple jobs.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Speak up a little
bit. You need to speak up. I can't hear you. I know
they can't hear you up north.
MR. HINTON: Can you hear me?
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yes.
MR. HINTON: So since then, I've been like
working like multiple jobs, I mean over like 10, 12
jobs. It's been like temporary, some in warehouses and
stuff like that, you know. Now I have kids and stuff.
And I actually have -- I have a guard card in California
now. So I had to go through the same process. I got
denied. And I went through an appeal and got approved
for a guard card out there.
So, plus, I moved out here about like three
months ago. I thought I'd jump back into the security
industry, because I want to work for security. But
right now, I work for Smith's. I just got hired there
like a month ago. So I'm still actually working for
them. But I really want to work for like security.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What brought you
to Las Vegas?
MR. HINTON: The rent is cheaper out here. I
couldn't afford it like that out there. So me and my
girl and my kid, we decided to move out here. She had
family that stay out here. So she came out this way
with her two sisters.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And what do you
do for Smith's?
MR. HINTON: I'm a courtesy clerk. So I bag
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groceries, rack up carts, do returns and stuff like
that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If you get a work card,
if a work card is approved for you, what is your plans?
MR. HINTON: I'm trying to apply for Allied
Security. So I already spoke with them, and they just
told me to come back whenever I was able to get one.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So you spoke with that
security company, and they just said, well, you get a
card, and you can come back and talk to us?
MR. HINTON: Yes, they'll grant me a job if I
could get it.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And it's three months,
I believe, you said you were here in Las Vegas?
MR. HINTON: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have you had any
run-ins with the police of any nature?
MR. HINTON: No.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And since 2010 or
whatever, you've been just working odd jobs?
MR. HINTON: M-hm (affirmative), yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
question from the Board?
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So just so I can
understand time and distance, you got out in 2012'ish?
MR. HINTON: About, yes.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
MR. HINTON: Like around this time, September.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: And so then 2012. Then,
your probation was done in about 2015?
MR. HINTON: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I'll
entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make a motion,
because of time and distance and you being here, and we
can't find anything else going on with you, and I hope
you got it going, flying right, and you already tried to
get a job without a work card --
MR. HINTON: Right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: -- and you needed one.
I make a motion to approve Marcus Hinton. Or are you
telling us to say approve it?
MR. DETMER: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Approve his --
MR. DETMER: Appeal.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: His appeal. That's it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Well,
I say that's good. All right. I have a motion.
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And I have a
second.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Whatever, I say.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. All
those in favor of the granting the appeal, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Good luck to you.
MR. HINTON: All right. Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Get it right. Okay?
MR. HINTON: Sure.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Number 49,
be Davin Kelley.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good morning.
MR. KELLEY: How are you all?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good morning.
You realize you're under oath, sir?
MR. KELLEY: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Who's the
investigator on this?
MR. MAXWELL: Investigator Maxwell.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Boy, you're busy,
Mr. Maxwell.
MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Go ahead. Go
ahead.
MR. MAXWELL: In September of 2016, in
California, the applicant was charged with inflicting
corporal injury on spouse cohabitant. This was at
felony level. The disposition was three years
probation, 120 days jail. Probation was then extended
to five years two months. The applicant was initially
made provisional. He did disclose this arrest as a
possible misdemeanor and later on provided court
documents which, in conjunction with the fingerprint
report, revealed the conviction to be a felony.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Kelley, I got a couple questions for you. Okay. So
tell me about this inflicting corporal injury on your
spouse or cohabitant.
MR. KELLEY: You said 2016. I never. When I
went to jail then, that's what they wrongfully arrested
me for. It was in '06 that this happened. When I went
to jail in '16, they locked me up, and the judge said,
"We don't even know why you're in here." Because I had
an eight-year felony warrant that was an unformal
probation. And I had it for one year. I did classes at
the Hacienda in California.
So the one year that I was supposed to do
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unformal, it went by. Eight years passed. 2016, they
arrested me, and they didn't even know why I was in
there. So the judge had told me that my entire case was
going to be dismissed.
So I didn't even know that this was still on.
I thought it was either dismissed or it was removed from
my entire case. But 2016, I never inflicted pain on
anyone.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So if I
understand you correctly, this charge stemmed from 2008?
MR. KELLEY: 2006.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: 2006 is when this
occurred?
MR. KELLEY: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And you
did 120 days in jail for it?
MR. KELLEY: I did 68 days.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Time
served. Okay. 68. And then you went on probation?
MR. KELLEY: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And then, for
whatever reason, something happened on probation,
because there's an entry for you to he rearrested.
MR. KELLEY: After the three years probation,
they extend it for another three years. And then I had
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a one-year unformal probation. Because I was at a -- or
what do they call it, a behavioral place, where I was
able to do my domestic violence classes at the Hacienda.
So once I did my classes through there, I didn't have
nobody to report to.
You know, all this time went by, they had me
listed down as I should have -- the judge said I should
have came in and saw the judge to where they could have
cleared it a long time ago. But I had unformal
probation for a year, so I didn't know who I was
supposed to check into. So all that time went by. And
in 2016, they arrested me for this old charge.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And we
need you to --
MR. KELLEY: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Just --
MR. KELLEY: I'm sorry.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You need to
stand, or, I guess --
MR. KELLEY: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I'm --
MR. KELLEY: It's very confusing. It's very
confusing.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. What
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was the extent of the injuries that did you in '06?
MR. KELLEY: None. My son's mother at the
time, she didn't want to press no charges. And the
person, the man that I had got into a physical conflict
with didn't want to press no charges. So they asked
what was the infliction on her and all that. I said
that I moved her out of the way to get to him. And the
D.A. picked up my case. That's the only reason why I
even have the felony on my background.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And what was
the -- what initiated the police contact in 2016 for
them to arrest you for this?
MR. KELLEY: 2016, I was walking down the
street, and the police just pulled me over. And when he
pulled me over, he said that I had a warrant for my
arrest, for an eight-year warrant. And I said, "How is
that possible? I haven't been in trouble with you guys
at all." So when they took me to jail, and I went and
saw the judge, he, that's exactly what he said, "I don't
even know why you're here." And that's the same thing I
said, "Like I haven't been in trouble. I haven't -- I'm
not on probation now. I'm not on anything." So when I
went there, they -- he said, "We're going to dismiss
this case as if it never happened." That was at
Riverside County.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Maxwell, do you have anything to add?
MR. MAXWELL: It did start off in 2006. But
through the fingerprint reports, it's -- it shows pretty
much exactly what the applicant is saying. I did get
court records from Riverside. And it shows pretty much
what the applicant is stating, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. How
long have you lived in Las Vegas?
MR. KELLEY: Two years. I've lived here two
years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. What are
you doing now?
MR. KELLEY: Well, I was working at the
Crossroads of Southern Nevada, the rehab center.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, on
Charleston?
MR. KELLEY: Yes. I was working over there.
Things didn't turn out right with the management. So
they wanted to move on from further, with other
security. So I've applied for a CSC Security Events
Staff, but I needed to get my guards card first before I
could move on with them.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Are you
employed currently?
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MR. KELLEY: Not at the moment.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And what did you
do in California before you moved here?
MR. KELLEY: I was working was a caregiver.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. KELLEY: I've been taking care of children
and old people my entire life.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
MR. KELLEY: But I moved to Vegas, met my wife,
got married, had a daughter, moved forward with my life.
I haven't been in trouble with the law in God knows how
long and don't plan on it.
BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right. Are there any
other questions?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I just want to make sure.
Are you working now?
MR. KELLEY: Not at the moment.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
MR. KELLEY: I'm just waiting to get the guards
card approved, and then they told me to come back in and
I'll have a job.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
don't have any other questions.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I'm just -- I
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just need a little clarification from either Mr. Maxwell
or you, sir. Okay. Because I'm not understanding the
three years probation, and then it was extended to five
years, or what you said, even to six years.
MR. KELLEY: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: How did that, how did
that occur? I don't understand that.
MR. KELLEY: I'm still at a loss myself.
Riverside County had me for three, three years
probation. And I wasn't finished with the work release
program. So they -- because it was actually 111 -- 192
days, and it was going to be only weekends. So it was
like over two plus years that I was going to be working
just the weekends. So they -- a couple things happened,
and I just didn't show up at the moment. So they
extended my time past the three years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Now I understand.
MR. KELLEY: Gave me a little, little more time
for the probation. I was at the Hacienda, where I
finished out my classes and all. And then, from the
unformal probation, I didn't have nobody to check into.
So I didn't, you know, didn't know who I was supposed to
the report to or I was supposed to go see a judge,
because nobody told me anything after the one year was
up. So I just went on with my life; 14 years later,
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here I am.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Where do you
live now? Where you live, where you stay? I don't
know.
MR. KELLEY: I have a house with my wife and my
daughter.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're married now?
MR. KELLEY: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How old is your
daughter?
MR. KELLEY: Nine months.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Is your wife working?
MR. KELLEY: Yes. She's a teacher at Mater
Academy.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: If you get this here,
if you are approved for this work card, what do you plan
on doing with it?
MR. KELLEY: Go work for CSC, do events
staffing with them. They have a position for me, the
management already. I've already established myself
with that company. So they just told me to get my
guards card and then come back and see them.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I see
no other questions. I'll entertain a motion.
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I move -- This is
Commissioner Nixon. I move that we approve Davin
Kelley, or we overturn, I'm sorry, Davin Kelley's denial
for his registration.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. So we
have a motion to grant the appeal.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: There we go. Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
don't see any further discussion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, we know what
we're doing.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All in favor of
granting the motion to the appeal?
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Bob, you seconded
it?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I said aye.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah. Any
opposed?
All right. The motion passes.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Congratulations. Good
luck.
MR. KELLEY: Thank you to you all. Thank you.
Have a good day.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Bobby, did you
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need a break?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, just I just have
to go downstairs.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We're
going on a five-minute break. We have to -- we have an
equipment issue up here.
Scott Macrina, you're on deck, so.
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(A break was taken, 12:14 to 12:19 p.m.)
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We're
going to go live again. Are you okay up north?
THE REPORTER: Yes.
MS. KLEMME: Yes, we are.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Number 50,
Scott Macrina.
MR. MACRINA: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Mr. Maxwell
again. Where do we got?
MR. MAXWELL: In July of 2017, the applicant
was arrested in the state of Nevada, and the charge was
carrying a concealed weapon without a permit. This was
a misdemeanor. He did disclose and provided court
docs. The disposition was a 30-day suspended jail
sentence; stay out of trouble for a minimum of six
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months, which was satisfied in July of 2018; impulse
control counseling, which was satisfied in April of
2018. The weapon was forfeited. And the case was
closed in July of 2018.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Tell us
about it.
MR. MACRINA: I was currently at work and
protecting my store, because I am the store manager. I
currently am still. I had a customer come in, irate,
threatening my employees and myself. I went outside to
deescalate the situation with my weapon. I had
deescalated it, put the gun in my back pocket. And
somehow, I don't understand where the cops came
involved. I was -- I had the weapon in my back pocket
with the butt of the gun exposed. And the cops had came
over. And that's wounded up where I got arrested and
charged with the concealed.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Did the
person that was threatening your employees, did they
have a weapon?
MR. MACRINA: To my knowledge, I -- they had a
knife. And it was also a customer who had in the past
caused issues, with verbal abuse, threatening, and just
pretty much irrational.
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store was this?
MR. MACRINA: A convenience store.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Like a 7-Eleven?
MR. MACRINA: It's like a 7-Eleven.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Are you
still working there?
MR. MACRINA: Yes. I'm the store manager.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So why do
you want a security permit?
MR. MACRINA: I would like to do something
different. Right now, I currently work 70 hours a week.
And I've been for five years. And I'm trying to slow
down a little bit. And I feel as though being in
security, it's there's more doors to open up with that,
better hours, and I could be more around for my
daughter.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I appreciate
that. Just so you know, I don't see enough time and
distance on the weapons charge, me personally. And
we'll see what the other Board feels. All right.
Any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Have you ever had any
weapons training or experience before, or is it --
MR. MACRINA: No.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No?
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MR. MACRINA: No, I have not had any training.
But I also do currently possess a weapon again. And I
have no issues in that, with it, have had no issues.
And I also spoke with law enforcement while I was at my
job to, for them to tell me how to properly -- where it
could be on my person, like in my car and stuff like
that. So I did reach out to just get a better
understanding on to what the laws are.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So since your arrest with
this weapon, you have not gone to obtain a CCW or
anything, you just continued down the same path?
MR. MACRINA: I just, literally, I've been
afraid to go. Because I've never been in trouble. I've
never even had a misdemeanor. So it's not like they
have a handbook to say, hey, this is what you can do,
what you cannot do. And so now I'm just a lot more
aware and smarter with it. You know, and I don't even,
while I'm at work, I don't keep it on me. It's in my --
like underneath my register, in the tray. So I haven't
been able to -- that's why I try doing this.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. And, again, you
have no formalized training, you haven't gone for, to
range or anything to try to, you know, better your
weapons handling?
MR. MACRINA: Currently, I haven't had the time
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to do it, because I am the only one working. And I have
a lot of stuff going on between the time periods. I've
lost a father and my son.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Sorry to hear that. Okay.
Thank you. No further questions.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Can I call you Scott?
MR. MACRINA: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'm Commissioner
Gronauer. You can call me whatever you want. The thing
is, you say you became more aware about, you know, how
to handle the gun and all this other stuff, and
currently you keep it under a counter where you're
working. Is that correct?
MR. MACRINA: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. In this amount
of time -- and I'm sorry about all your loss. That's --
I understand. But there is police departments that
offer these classes for a very minimum amount. There's
ranges, you can go at nighttime and get certified or get
a CCW permit from them. Training, you need training.
It's just not you get a gun and, oh, had a little
problem, I talked to a couple cops or somebody else, and
I'm okay, I understand it. No, you don't understand it.
There's a real big deal. Okay. You already
spent a little bit of time. So I'm asking you. You're
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not well-trained. You're not well-informed. I think,
the best thing you could do is make sure you get that.
At this time, it's hard for me because of time
and distance with the weapons charge, and you didn't do
anything to correct it. And I know you've had some
personal problems with that, that you can't do anything
about. But you want something like this here, I can't
hold that up. At this point, that's from me. It's up
to my other Board members, whatever they want to do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. No other
questions. I'll make a motion. You guys have been busy
most of the morning. I'll make a motion that we deny
the appeal based on time, distance, and the fact that it
is a weapons charge. And it wasn't too long ago that
this Board would deny weapons charges for eternity.
So you're more than welcome to come back in a
year from now to see what you've done with your life and
make sure you've stayed out of trouble. And we'll take
a look at it next year if you want to come back before
us again.
MR. MACRINA: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Oh. Oh,
we didn't --
MR. MACRINA: Oh.
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me, they don't always agree with me.
All right. So. That's my motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a second. Any further discussion?
All right. No further discussion. All those
in favor of denying the appeal, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. See you in a year.
MR. MACRINA: All right. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Thank you.
Brett Smith. Is Brett here?
Hello, Mr. Smith.
MR. SMITH: Good afternoon.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good afternoon.
Mr. Maxwell.
MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What do you got?
MR. MAXWELL: July of 2014, in Nevada, a charge
of possessing firearm under the influence at misdemeanor
level. The disposition shows he was fined, and he
forfeitured the weapon, and he received probation. This
was disclosed and was the reason for the denial.
August of 2015, there was a probation violation
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at misdemeanor level. SCOPE shows that no charges were
filed. He did disclose.
November 2010, also in Nevada, DUI,
misdemeanor, 30 days jail which was suspended, fine and
DUI school. This was also disclosed.
July of 2006, in Nevada, breach of the peace,
misdemeanor, 30 days suspended jail sentence, and he was
ordered classes. This was also disclosed.
The applicant disclosed all the arrests, and he
was not made provisional.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Mr. Smith,
what are you doing these days?
MR. SMITH: Well, currently, for the past three
and a half years, I've worked at a mortuary on behalf of
the Clark County Coroner's Office. I do removals. So I
have contact with police officers literally every single
day. Besides that, I am two hours short of my private
pilot's license for fixed-wing and rotor-wing. I'm just
waiting for the final check ride. So I'm subject to the
Department of Transportation overlooking me. But that's
pretty much all I do is go to work, pick up bodies, and
fly when I can.
I was in a process of trying to change and get
out of mortuary work. I was trying get out of the
mortuary work.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Your mic's on?
MR. SMITH: Yes, sir, it is.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
MR. SMITH: Three and a half years picking up
bodies for the county, it's not going to go anywhere. I
was looking for advancement and other things, something
more fitting of what I want to do. I'd like to fly
eventually, but contracting would be more up my alley.
In regards to possession of the firearm under
the influence for 2014, I was under medication at the
time. My mother had passed. I had problems sleeping.
Drove home, had the weapon on me.
In relations to the probation violation, I told
them. They knew that I had weapons at the time. It was
not forfeited. I told them I couldn't place it,
somewhere else. My sister had just recently had a kid.
My father was in between houses. I made the mistake of
keeping it during the probation. During house arrest,
they came, they found it, off to jail I went. Through
litigation, we decided that, hey, if I give them the
weapons, they will reduce it to a misdemeanor. So
that's basically what happened.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So you had a DUI
in '10, and then you were under the influence of
narcotic substances in '14, prescription?
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MR. SMITH: Yes, sir. Since, I'm not taking
any prescriptions.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Any questions from fellow Commissioners?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: This is Gronauer. Do
you have a substance abuse, whether it be alcohol or
drugs, now, problem?
MR. SMITH: No, I do not. So the original DUI
was marijuana in 2010. I haven't smoked marijuana in
six plus years, or five years, since the time of the
probation violation prior to that. But the Department
of Transportation is absolutely zero tolerance for that
type of stuff.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: On the probation
violation, they came in and found your gun. Did they
take you to jail at that time?
MR. SMITH: Yes, sir, they did.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay.
MR. SMITH: I spent, I think, I don't know,
about a week or two weeks. And then we -- they didn't
think I had money to bail out. I bailed out. Through
litigation, they said, hey, we'll give you back the bail
money if you spend another eight weeks or so. At that
time, we decided to strike a deal, hey, you could have
these weapons, and we fought for my right to drop it
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down to a misdemeanor to obtain gun ownership and gun
rights.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you on paper now?
MR. SMITH: No. The coroner wouldn't allow
anybody who was on probation to, A, enter people's
houses and crime scenes to -- you know what I mean, to
do what I do.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When did you get off
paper?
MR. SMITH: To be honest, I think, it ended
when I spent the extra eight weeks. I think, we kind of
just washed hands. I didn't have to do any classes. I
just said, hey, you guys want me to lay down, do this
time. And that's what happened.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So somewhere near the
end of two fifteen, 2015?
MR. SMITH: Yeah, actually, I believe, I got
out October 31st, 2015. And that was at HDC Henderson.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a gun on
you now?
MR. SMITH: Well, currently, we're in a state
building. No. But I do own two weapons. One I
acquired this past year, passed the background check.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do you have a CCW?
MR. SMITH: I currently do not. I have to wait
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another year before I can apply for a CCW.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Why?
MR. SMITH: That's just what Nevada state law
says, it has to be five years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Five years. Okay. All
right. Thank you.
MR. SMITH: Thank you, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I just wanted to confirm
that he's off paper now, I guess, is the term.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Off probation.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Off probation.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Off parole or
probation, yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You don't watch a
lot of movies.
MR. MAXWELL: Yes, ma'am.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Thank you. Learn the
lingo.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: They understand it,
that's the thing.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I'll
entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'm going to
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make a motion. And it's because of firearms and the
things that are going on. I have to deny the appeal for
Scott Macrina, who applied for registration and was
denied. I want to continue to deny the appeal.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion to deny the appeal.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Smith.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, Smith. That's
Smith. I'm sorry. Number 51. And I even had it
marked.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion to deny. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Can I ask a question?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, if we don't
have a -- I'll second just for the sake of discussion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So I'll second.
And then, now you can state what you want.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. So when was he
completely done with everything? I'm just trying to
determine time and distance.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: October 2015.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: 2015.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I think, you said
October 2015.
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MR. SMITH: Yes, sir. So it'll be almost four
years in October.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: He can't even get a CCW
yet.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yeah. I just wanted to
make sure.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
discussion?
All right. We have a motion to deny and a
second. All in favor of denying the appeal, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
No. Okay. So your appeal's not granted. I
would say the same thing that I said to somebody else a
little while ago. Your issue, in my mind, is a time and
distance one. You can't even get a CCW from a local
government, let long the state. So. And I'd encourage
you to stay clean and come back in another year before
us.
MR. SMITH: Understood.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I think, things
might go in your favor, at least with me.
MR. SMITH: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I can't speak for
other members of the Board.
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MR. SMITH: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
MR. SMITH: It was nice seeing you after 20
something years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Where do I know
you from?
MR. SMITH: My childhood. You know my father
and my mother.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, right. Wow.
MR. SMITH: Oh, hey, how are you?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Wow.
Yeah.
MR. SMITH: You look a little different, and
you don't have a dog with you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah. You got a
bit older. Wow.
MR. SMITH: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Is your dad still
up north?
MR. SMITH: No, sir. He actually works for
OSHA and DIR on Sahara. He's senior legal counsel for
OSHA and DIR.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, good to see
you.
MR. SMITH: Awesome. Thank you, sir. Good
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seeing you. Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Number 52, Joseph
Verde. Come on down.
Okay. You realize you are under oath?
MR. VERDE: Yes, I do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Mr. Maxwell.
MR. MAXWELL: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Talk to us,
please.
MR. MAXWELL: April of 1990, in Colorado, the
applicant was charged with carrying a concealed weapon.
This was at the misdemeanor level. There was no
disposition given. He did disclose it. On the
fingerprint report, it shows that all he received was a
fine. And this was confirmed on the fingerprint report.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Your side
of the story, what happened?
MR. VERDE: I just want to say thanks for the
hearing today.
This was so long ago, after I was denied, I
went ahead and I did like three background checks
online. And I found that I didn't even realize that it
happened. And I ended up calling the clerk in Colorado,
and they said that it was actually just the case was
dismissed. But that was the only charge I have had. So
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I listed it.
And, actually, what it was, it was a bayonet
that I found in somebody's trash. And I was on my way
home, carrying it. And my friend got stopped. We were
walking home together. Anyway, I told the officer right
then that what I had. And he took it. And that was
that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How long have you
lived in Las Vegas?
MR. VERDE: Since 2001.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What do you do
for a living?
MR. VERDE: Work at Old Navy, for 11 years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: 11 years?
MR. VERDE: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And why do you
want to work in security?
MR. VERDE: My friend actually works in the
mall where I work. And so, and I walk to work. So it's
just very convenient.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
MR. VERDE: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do we have any
questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I'll make
a motion. We easily have time and distance. You've got
a work history, a long-term residence. So I'll make a
motion that we approve your appeal.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And we have a
second. Any further discussion?
All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. You have a good day.
MR. VERDE: Thank you very much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Willie Edwards,
come on down. Mr. Edwards?
Just for my edification, is there anybody up
north in the audience?
MS. KLEMME: We just have one person in the
audience.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are they here for
appeals?
MR. BROWN: I'm here to listen and observe.
MS. KLEMME: Just to listen and observe.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. That's
fine. I didn't know I was that popular. That's good.
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All right. Well, we're going to trail
Mr. Edwards.
Trenses Love. Trenses Love?
All right. We'll trail that one.
Jerry Stovall.
How are you, sir?
MR. STOVALL: Hi. Good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Mr. Maxwell. No.
It's Ms. Donald.
MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald. In 2005, in
Hawaii, he was convicted of a misdemeanor DUI. He was
fined. His driver's license was suspended. He did
disclose.
In 2002, in Hawaii, he had a misdemeanor
charge, abuse on a household member. He was convicted,
received six months probation. He disclosed.
1998, in Hawaii, abuse on household member, a
misdemeanor, convicted again, six months probation. He
disclosed.
1998, in April, in Hawaii, he had a felony
conviction of unlawful taking of a vehicle without
consent, convicted, fined and five years probation. He
disclosed.
1997, in Hawaii, a terroristic threat,
misdemeanor, convicted, 10 days confinement. He
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disclosed.
1997, harassment and stalking, misdemeanor,
convicted, six months suspended sentence. He disclosed.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You were pretty
busy from when you were 19 to 21.
MR. STOVALL: I was young, hanging with the
wrong crowd.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Just for my
edification, that Hawaii was way ahead of its time.
What was a terroristic threat in 1997?
MR. STOVALL: When I was -- I guess, my
ex-girlfriend's -- she took my car. And she let her new
boyfriend drive my car off. So I came up and I
threatened him.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Came up and what?
MR. STOVALL: I pushed him and I was going
to -- I threatened him with a knife.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Interesting charge for that.
MR. STOVALL: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. How
long have you lived in Las Vegas?
MR. STOVALL: I lived in the Vegas three years.
Three years, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. What
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are you doing now?
MR. STOVALL: I work construction, a full-time
job. And I also work nighttime at the club, I bounce.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What club?
MR. STOVALL: Gold Spike, downtown.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you an
employee of Gold Spike?
MR. STOVALL: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Why do you
want a security card?
MR. STOVALL: My boss has events coming up on
the site, and he's asking us to acquire the card so we
can work that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Great.
Thank you.
Any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What will you do with a
security card or with -- what will you do with a work
card? That's the part I don't understand.
MR. STOVALL: A lot of our, the events that my
boss has on the site, he has like movies coming up. I
want to jump on that, because I like to work. I'm just,
I'm a busy guy, like to work. I work full-time during
the day, and then I work on weekends.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Armed or unarmed?
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MR. STOVALL: Unarmed.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have you attended any
classes for anger issues or domestic violence?
MR. STOVALL: Yes, I did.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Or anything like that?
MR. STOVALL: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have you submitted any
paperwork to that effect?
MR. STOVALL: Me?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Have you brought in any
paperwork to the investigator for that?
MR. STOVALL: Oh, well, I have all that
paperwork, that stack. I guess, I did that back in,
that was like eight years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I'm just talking
about classes and stuff.
MR. STOVALL: Yeah, I did all those classes. I
did it all. I complied with all my -- I complied with
the courts.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Are you married now?
MR. STOVALL: I'm not married, but I've been
with my girlfriend 10 years. I have a daughter.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Is she in the audience?
MR. STOVALL: No, she's in the car waiting.
She didn't want to come up.
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That might be abuse.
MR. STOVALL: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I'm just
trying to figure out. Because that's some serious
charges, you know, and it sounds like some anger issues
and stuff. But there's been some time and distance in
it, so.
MR. STOVALL: I've been clean since I had the
trouble. I know how to control my anger. I'm older
now, mature. And I know how to control myself. I've
been at the club for three years, and I haven't gotten
no issues over there with anybody. I know how to talk
to people now. And they like the way that -- I won an
award at Gold Spike. I got the golden award for my --
the way I speak to people and how I take care of the
actions.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I'm good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
I'll entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we overturn Mr. Jerry Stovall's
denial of the guard card.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Or grant the appeal.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Or grant the appeal, that
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we overturn Mr. Jerry Stovall's denial.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: And approve his guard card
license.
MR. STOVALL: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Seeing no further discussion, I'll call for a vote on
the granting the appeal. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. Good luck to you.
MR. STOVALL: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Have a good day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where are we?
MR. INGRAM: 56.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Larry Salcido?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I think so.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Salido. Salcido.
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Salcido.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: There we go. My
apologies. And it's a hyphenated name. So
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Verumen-Salcido.
Good afternoon, sir. Do you realize you're
under oath?
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Ms. Donald.
MS. DONALD: Investigator Donald. In 2001, he
was charged with discharging a firearm. The disposition
was time served. We aren't sure if it's a felony or a
misdemeanor. He did disclose it. That was the reason
for the denial.
In 2002, disturbing the peace, time served. He
disclosed.
In 2006, grand theft auto, convicted of a
felony, time served. He was released from prison in
2009.
These were all out of California. I had
previously written that we did not have his fingerprint
results. All arrests listed are based on what he wrote
on the application. His fingerprints were rejected by
the FBI. He had to get them redone. So we just
received back in our office that he had a name check,
and everything came back negative. So we don't -- this
is what they came back with. We don't know what his
actual fingerprint results are. They're saying it is
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negative. But we still upheld the denial based on what
he wrote on his application, because it could be an
error.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So his
fingerprints were rejected. He redid his fingerprints.
MS. DONALD: Right.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And they still
couldn't find anything. And, but they did a name check.
MS. DONALD: They did a name check. The state
and the FBI did a name check, and they said it was a
negative response on both.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MS. DONALD: So.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What do you do
for employment?
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Right now, I'm working
across the street at the store, the Stateside Express.
I've been there for the past two years now, since I've
been here in Las Vegas. And when I do my side jobs, I
still do auto body and paint.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Paint?
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Calluses?
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Everything.
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down your fingerprints.
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Yes. My hands are real
rough.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah. Yeah,
that's what I was looking for. You answered my
question.
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Well,
obviously, you're an honest person. We appreciate that,
because we wouldn't know any of this. And it's been
quite a while since you've been in trouble. Why don't
you -- well, we're really concerned always about weapons
and firearms. So tell us about the discharging a
firearm. And I do know that it's almost 20 years ago,
but.
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: At the time, I was
younger. When my dad was alive, he had put us into body
work and paint, basically restoring classic cars. I
still do it now. And every brother had a job. My job
was to do a lot of body work, paint, buffing them out,
putting them back together. So each brother had a task.
As time went on -- we lived in a bad area. And
the area that we lived in, they tried to rob us several
times. And where I lived, I had found a gun in the
alley. You find everything in the alley in a bad
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neighborhood, from guns, needles. You name it, you'll
find it. Car stereos, beepers, old cell phones,
anything.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We believe you.
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: And, you know, I just got
curious at the time, and I just picked it up. And it
was loaded and everything, ready to go. It was a
revolver. And I ended up keeping it. I didn't tell
nobody about it.
And I stayed late at home. Everybody was gone.
And I was tired, just got through working on a car. And
it wasn't even my car. It was a customer car, had a
stereo system, big system in it, sponsor decals all over
it. And in the area, they just jumped up, and they just
started going to town, breaking the windows, taking
whatever out of the car. I was by myself. And I took
it into consideration and just started shooting at them.
I was real young at the time. When the cops came, you
know, they pretty much did their job. I gave them the
weapon. And I was honest with them. They got the call.
After all that was said and done, I did my
time. And I learned a lot from it. I learned a lot
from all the mistakes that I made when I was younger up
until now.
My dad's no longer with me. I take care of my
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mom. I'm just trying to pursue a better opportunity for
the future. So if my mom goes, I can leave something
great behind, you know, be a part of the community
again, learn to deal with different types of people,
homeless. It takes a real man to make changes without
even using a gun. Sometimes it's just a little time,
you know.
And that's what I hope to get out of getting my
guard card, opportunity to work here and be a part of
this whole community. Because Vegas is growing. People
from California are coming. I got opportunities already
at the stadium. I got opportunity at Jerry's Nugget. I
just need a guard card. And I'm hoping, you know, with
good faith, that I get the opportunity to go for this
change.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
appreciate your sincerity.
Any other questions?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: How long have you
resided in Las Vegas?
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: I've been here so far two
years. And in the past, I've been out here for super
shows, with the car shows, car clubs, restoring vehicles
for personal collectors out here, buying, selling and
trading. And I ended up liking it out here. So I'm
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here now. And I just, you know, want to give in more
years to come, hopefully.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where are you employed?
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: At Stateside Express,
right across the street, the 905, where Sinclair is.
I'm still there now.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions?
All right. I'll make a motion. Based on time,
distance and the sincerity of the individual, and the
fact that he was extremely honest, because we wouldn't
have known about it, I'd like to grant his appeal.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I second. Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion. We have a second. I don't feel there's
any further discussion. All those in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carries.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Thank you.
MR. VERUMEN-SALCIDO: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
will let you tell me how you pronounce your first name,
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Mr. or Ms. Dollar.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You don't have to.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We'll
trail this one. I don't get too many machine gun cases.
I wanted to hear this one.
All right. Mr. Dunlap. Good afternoon. Have
you been sworn in?
MR. DUNLAP: Yes, I have.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: Investigator Saladino. The
applicant listed a 2010 possession of a dangerous
weapon, which was a switchblade, out of California.
This was a misdemeanor offense. He was found guilty,
served three years probation. The applicant listed the
arrest and conviction and was aware of the appeal
process at time of the application. And that's why
we're here today.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
What's your side, what happened?
MR. DUNLAP: Well, it was I was riding in my
parents' car. And my parents had a knife in the car.
And I wasn't supposed to be driving at the time. So
that's how the -- I ended up getting pulled over. And
they ended up searching the car, finding the knife and
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like saying it was mine. And I got stopped in front of
my parents' house. So they all came outside and tried
to tell the officer, you know, "That's my knife," and
stuff like that. But they just said I was driving so I
was responsible for the knife.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I was hoping
you'd say you took the charge for your mom.
MR. DUNLAP: I took both.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You ended up did.
MR. DUNLAP: I end up did, yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. How
long have you lived in Las Vegas?
MR. DUNLAP: I lived in Las Vegas about four
years now.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And what
do you do for a living?
MR. DUNLAP: I work landscape.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. DUNLAP: Yeah, I do landscape. I actually
work from 6:00 in the morning to 5:00 o'clock in the
evening, in the heat all day. So I'm just looking for a
better opportunity. So maybe I could work indoors or
something like that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Appreciate that.
Any family in town?
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MR. DUNLAP: Yes, I have family. I have three
kids out here, have a brother, a cousin. And they all
live in Vegas.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, I'm good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I'll
entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm make the motion.
Okay. For Mr. Dunlap, I'll make a motion to grant the
appeal for -- Keoudon ("Kee-eh-don")?
MR. DUNLAP: Keoudon ("Kee-don").
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. Keoudon
Dunlap applied for a registration and was denied. I'd
grant the motion, I mean grant whatever.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. We have a
motion. Do we have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I don't
think there's any further discussion. All in favor of
granting the appeal, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. Good luck to you.
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MR. DUNLAP: Okay. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have a great
day.
Mr. Estifaee, Kamran Estifaee.
Mr. Estifaee, how are you, sir?
MR. ESTIFAEE: Very good, thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Have you been
before the Board before?
MR. ESTIFAEE: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Do you
understand you're under oath?
MR. ESTIFAEE: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: The applicant was denied for a
felony charge that ended up being reduced down through
1203.4 to annoying or molesting a child. This was in
2002 out of California. The applicant did disclose the
arrest on his application. He also provided court
documents showing the felony charge had been reduced
under 1203.4, and provided a letter from the Nevada
Department of Public Safety showing that he has met the
required 15 years of registry in Nevada. And this was
the only arrest for the applicant.
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register?
MR. SALADINO: Not anymore. And he provided
that letter, and it's -- we have that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Estifaee, what was the circumstances on that charge
in 2002? And you're going to need to lean into the
microphone.
MR. ESTIFAEE: One page, can I read it, the one
page, or?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: If you want to
bring it up here, so he doesn't have to read it. I can
read it over real quick and share it with the Board. It
might take a while.
That's your statement about what happened?
MR. ESTIFAEE: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How long have you
lived in Las Vegas?
MR. ESTIFAEE: About 20, 21 years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And what have you
been doing for an occupation?
MR. ESTIFAEE: I am working at two different
places. One is part of the -- it is a complex building,
about 400, building, that to be maintenance. And the
second one is with this commercial reality. I've been
managing an office over there, collect the rents of
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shops, and evict them if they don't pay it, something
like that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And why do you
want to go into security work?
MR. ESTIFAEE: My boss says get this license
and open that business for security of the shopping
center when it, you know -- and you try it out there.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I don't
understand. Try me again.
MR. ESTIFAEE: My boss told me to go get this
license and open your own business to take care of my
business in the shopping center. It is a big shopping
center that I work right now.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Right.
MR. ESTIFAEE: They need the security at
nighttime or during the day that take care of the shops.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. And
maybe somebody from the Board can help me out. I mean
you get a guard card, it doesn't mean you can open up
your open business.
MR. ESTIFAEE: I know. But after that, I can
get my own business. I asked the --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Kevin, do you
want to jump in?
MR. INGRAM: What you applied for is a
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registered work card.
MR. ESTIFAEE: Yes.
MR. INGRAM: And a registered work card is only
good for you to work for a licensed employer. A
registered work card is not a license. It does not
allow you to provide security services.
MR. ESTIFAEE: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: So what you would have to apply
for to do what you're explaining you would like to do,
you would have to apply for a license with us, not a
registered work card.
MR. ESTIFAEE: No, they said, first of all, you
have to get that card, and then you have to apply for
this one that you are talking about.
MR. INGRAM: That's not correct. To apply for
a license, you apply directly for a license. You have
applied for a registered work card.
MR. ESTIFAEE: What is this license? What is
this license you say?
MR. INGRAM: This is not a license. It's a
registered work card.
MR. ESTIFAEE: A work card.
MR. INGRAM: And a work card only allows you to
work for a licensed security company. It allows you to
be an employee of a security company.
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MR. ESTIFAEE: So I'd have to work for a
security company?
MR. INGRAM: You would have to be employed by a
security company if your registered work card is
granted.
MR. ESTIFAEE: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: Okay. Because if you do it on
your own, that's considered unlicensed activity, and
that carries some pretty hefty fines.
MR. ESTIFAEE: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions of the Board?
All right. I will entertain a motion.
I will entertain a motion, second calling.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Gronauer. I'm going to
just uphold, I'm going to make a motion to uphold the
denial for Mr. Kamran Estifaee, who applied for
registration and was denied.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion to uphold the denial.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a second.
Any further discussion?
Okay. All those in favor, say "aye."
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion is denied.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You might want to...
(There was a momentary discussion off the
record.)
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you. You have a good day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Sir, maybe it would be
a good idea that you contact the PILB Board, I mean
Board, the PILB office, talk to the investigator and try
and get this all straightened out for what you want to
do, so you do it right, correctly. Because, I think,
you're still a little bit not understanding. And I
don't want to -- you know, that's what you have to do,
just talk to these guys.
MR. ESTIFAEE: I did.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, no, you -- sir,
it's not for discussion. I'm trying give you direction.
Okay? This way, you get some good direction. And then
you can come back in three months and see about that, or
whatever.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We're
done. Sir, we're done.
MR. ESTIFAEE: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have a good
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day.
Okay. Number 60, Marcus Ettress ("Eh-tres").
Did I pronounce your last name correctly?
MR. ETTRESS: It is Ettress ("Et-res").
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Ettress. Okay.
Do you know you're under oath?
MR. ETTRESS: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: The applicant was denied. In
2018, there was a home invasion, conspiracy to commit
home invasion at a felony level, ended up being reduced
to a misdemeanor trespass not amounting to burglary.
The applicant listed the arrest, paid a fine, completed
community service, impulse control classes.
2015, there was a domestic battery charge, a
misdemeanor. He was found guilty. He did list it on
his application. He received six months probation, a
fine and counseling.
2014, out of California, carrying a loaded
firearm in public. This was a misdemeanor. He was
found guilty. He listed it and was aware that he would
be denied. He received three years probation for that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. How long
have you lived in Las Vegas?
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MR. ETTRESS: About four years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What are you
doing now, or are living, occupation?
MR. ETTRESS: Occupation or living?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What?
MR. ETTRESS: You said living or occupation?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What are you
doing for an occupation, for a job?
MR. ETTRESS: Monday, I just started working at
a Rebel gas station.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What did you do
before that?
MR. ETTRESS: I was jumping around doing temp
work.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So you
were arrested less than a year and a half ago for a home
invasion.
MR. ETTRESS: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Why don't you
explain what happened on that one.
MR. ETTRESS: It was, basically, just a drunken
disagreement that got -- that went too far.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And if I
was to ask the victim what happened, what would they
say?
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MR. ETTRESS: I'm pretty sure they'd say the
same thing seeing how they're the ones who initiated the
altercation.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. So you
don't take responsibility --
MR. ETTRESS: Oh, most definitely, I do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What about the
domestic battery in 2015, what happened there?
MR. ETTRESS: That was between me and my big
brother. He was drunk, and he wouldn't leave me alone
and was arguing. The neighbors called the cops, saying
somebody was trying to come into my house. And then he
showed up with a bunch of cops. And I ended up telling
them like the only thing that went physical was I pushed
him out of my face. And they charged me with battery.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And then carrying
a loaded firearm in public?
MR. ETTRESS: I was at my aunt's house and so
for my cousin's birthday party. His friend ran with a
gun. They arrested me instead. And I have paperwork
saying that fingerprints were lifted from the gun, and
they weren't mine. That's why it was reduced down to a
misdemeanor.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions from the Board?
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Mr. Estes. Ettress.
Okay. I'm sorry. But carrying a loaded firearm in
public, it says you were found guilty.
MR. ETTRESS: Yeah, I took a deal. And then
about six, seven months later, I went back to appeal it.
And I have the motion to reduce.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And what happened if
you appealed it?
MR. ETTRESS: It was reduced.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It was just reduced,
but it wasn't expunged or anything?
MR. ETTRESS: No, I have to pay 250 and go back
and expunge it.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Do you live with
your brother now?
MR. ETTRESS: No, I live with my mother.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Does your
brother live with your mother?
MR. ETTRESS: No, he never did. He was just
over there.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. So I see. All
right. And the home invasion happened at whose home?
MR. ETTRESS: Home in the neighborhood
apartments.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It was just a stranger?
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MR. ETTRESS: Yeah, like I don't really want to
say it was too much racial, but it was like a drunken
white female, and then she kept antagonizing me, you
know, and I responded.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: How did you respond?
MR. ETTRESS: Like I was arguing back. But
then, when people heard my voice, they came running to
my defense. And another female began a physical
altercation with her. And then the cops came.
Everybody dispersed. Nobody was arrested. But then
they kept talking, and they went in the house. And then
we went back over there, and they were still talking
through the window again. I just kicked the door in.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. You kicked the
door in. That's why. I mean home invasion, and you got
arrested for that, but it was reduced.
MR. ETTRESS: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm okay with that,
too. But trespassing, which means you had a trespass.
MR. ETTRESS: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: There was a whole lot
of stuff involved in there. And this was only less than
a year and a half ago.
MR. ETTRESS: Yeah. But since then, I haven't
had any problems. I've completed all my requirements
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for the sentencing and everything for all charges.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What do you plan on
doing if you received a work card?
MR. ETTRESS: Well, my cousin has made a career
out of doing security out here, and he's pretty much
guaranteed me positions over the weekend for when I'm
not in CSM.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And where does your
cousin work?
MR. ETTRESS: Honestly, I'm not really sure if
he works for multiple companies, but I know he works for
Five Star VIP doing bodyguard work.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And you've
completed some classes, correct?
MR. ETTRESS: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What classes have you
completed?
MR. ETTRESS: Impulse control class.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: When was that?
MR. ETTRESS: Just you want the exact month,
or?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Give me an idea. Was
it last year, or the last two years, the last three
years?
MR. ETTRESS: Like for the trespass and
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assault, it was within the last year. And then the
battery was about two or three years ago.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay, sir. Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So I'm the non-law
enforcement person here. I'm not sure I understand the
gun issue. It was, he was convicted of it, but it
wasn't his fingerprints?
MR. ETTRESS: Yeah.
MR. SALADINO: So according to the fingerprint
report, the charge is a misdemeanor for carrying a
loaded firearm in public.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: But he was not the one
arrested with the weapon in this?
MR. SALADINO: No, he was arrested.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: He was. Okay.
MR. ETTRESS: It was wrong. And they only
arrested me because I wasn't wearing a shirt, and the
person who ran wasn't wearing a shirt.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Wasn't wearing a shirt?
MR. ETTRESS: Yeah. Back at the police
station, I heard them talking amongst each other, and
they said, "Sure it's him. He's not wearing a shirt."
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Where did they find the
gun?
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MR. ETTRESS: In a neighboring yard.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh. It's getting
different. Okay. No problem. I understand.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So was the other person
not wearing a shirt arrested as well?
MR. ETTRESS: No.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay. Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions?
All right. I'll entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Sorry. One last question.
Time and distance from all of this?
MR. SALADINO: One year and a half.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Year and a half?
MR. SALADINO: Yeah, 2018. May 2nd of 2018 was
the home invasion that was reduced to a misdemeanor.
MR. ETTRESS: One month, or one year four
months, three years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Two years prior to
that, and three years prior to that was the domestic
battery.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And one year prior to
that was the carrying a loaded gun. So it just -- yeah,
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okay. I'll make a motion. I make a motion to deny the
appeal of Marcus Ettress, applied for the registration,
was denied.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion. Do we have a second?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second, due to time and
distance.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion, a second. I don't feel there's any other
discussion. All those in favor of upholding the denial,
say "aye."
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. Try not to get in trouble for a couple
years.
MR. ETTRESS: How many is a couple?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: A couple?
Like --
MR. ETTRESS: Two, or more, or what?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Try two years.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Forever.
MR. ETTRESS: No, I'm saying --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, yeah. I
mean, A, we don't have time and distance. Home
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anger issue.
MR. ETTRESS: About the --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Hear me out. You
want to work in security. Sometimes you got to hold
your pride.
MR. ETTRESS: I did security before, and I --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I understand
that. But I'm saying that we're not going to give you a
card when you've been arrested a year and a half ago on
a felony. We haven't done that to anybody.
MR. ETTRESS: It wasn't a felony.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You were arrested
on a felony. It was reduced to a misdemeanor.
MR. ETTRESS: All right. Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have a good
day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Mr. Ettress,
understand, we're not judging you. We're judging your
actions in the last year and a half. That's what it is,
is the actions.
MR. ETTRESS: But how soon before I can come
back?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You can apply
within a year.
MR. ETTRESS: Okay.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Gatlin.
Do you understand you're under oath, sir?
MR. GATLIN: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: All right. The applicant was
denied for a January 25th, 2019 felony arrest for
burglary, grand larceny, buy or possess or receive
stolen property. He was found guilty of the lesser as a
misdemeanor. The applicant did not list this arrest.
Received a suspended jail sentence, paid restitutions
for both the victims, stay away from apartments. I
don't know how to say the name of the apartments. The
applicant is due for a status check on October 30th of
2019 for that particular case.
2016, out of Nevada, possession of a
Schedule 1, 2 or 3 controlled substance, felony. That
was dismissed. It was also not listed.
2016, DUI, misdemeanor, found guilty. This one
was disclosed. Received a suspended jail sentence and
victim impact panel.
January of 2016, battery charge out of Nevada,
a misdemeanor. He was found guilty. He did not list
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control counseling and community service.
2010, possession of a felony meth and
possession of marijuana with intent to sell at the
felony level. He pled to the lesser charge, found
guilty. This was not listed. The court records show
that through negotiations the charge was pled down, and
sentenced to time served.
April of 2006, in Nevada, embezzlement or
attempt for embezzlement, gross misdemeanor, found
guilty. This was not listed. Sentenced to 12 months in
jail, suspended, two years probation with conditions,
counseling, program and restitution.
1998, California, battery. It was a
misdemeanor. Found guilty. Not listed, found on the
fingerprint report. 36 months probation.
2000, in California, DUI, misdemeanor, found
guilty. Not listed, found on the fingerprint report.
Received another 36 months probation.
2004, California, grand theft, battery on a
spouse, battery on a PO or emergency personnel,
obstruction, misdemeanor, found guilty of the
obstruction. This was not listed, found on the
fingerprint report. Received 12 months probation, three
days in jail, a fine, restitution and suspended jail
sentence.
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The applicant listed the DUI arrest and failed
to list any other arrests. Also noted... And that's
it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We're talking
about, you, right?
MR. GATLIN: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Why do you
even want to work in security?
MR. GATLIN: I did security for five years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I couldn't
understand a word you said.
MR. GATLIN: I worked security for five years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Right. Why do
you want to work in security now?
MR. GATLIN: Because that's my field, I think,
and so I'm trying to go back to it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And why
didn't you list even your most recent arrest in January?
MR. GATLIN: Well, because when that occurred,
I didn't do that. It was Moore.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Whether you did
it or didn't do it, you were arrested, you were
convicted, you're on paper, you're on probation for it.
MR. GATLIN: Yeah. I just got on probation
for, I think, this year, this year. So when I did it,
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and that wasn't -- before I had to put that on there, I
was already, I think, I was doing for the security
place. So that wasn't -- I know it was on there now.
And I received -- after that, I lost my ID, last year on
my son's birthday. I don't steal. I don't. It was up
to me. Because I was working. I got pulled over. And
they said I had a warrant. And I was like, "For what?"
It was like burglary. I was like, "You got the wrong
person."
So I was planning the case and all that. So he
wound up telling me to plead guilty. And I was doing it
because my son was on the way to the service and all
that, trying to get out of state. I was on house arrest
and stuff like that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I'm done. I'm
done. Thank you. Appreciate your response.
Any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
will entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: This is Commissioner
Nixon. I move that we uphold the denial of Carmen --
MR. GATLIN: Damion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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Damion Gatlin.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: We got the same
disease.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
further discussion?
All in favor of upholding the denial, say
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: My opposed?
Mr. Gatlin, you need to figure this out with
your attorney and your probation. Because, obviously,
what we have on you and your report is completely
different than what you're telling us. I'm more
concerned with the fact that you didn't disclose that,
as well as many other arrests. You can reapply for us
in a year. I would suggest that you list every one of
your charges at that time.
MR. GATLIN: Okay. Sir, I've been arrested a
lot. So I couldn't really just remember the years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You didn't even
disclose your arrest in January.
MR. GATLIN: Okay. In January --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We're done. We
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voted on it.
MR. GATLIN: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. You
have a good day, sir.
MR. GATLIN: Yeah, you, too.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Kristina
Gomez. Kristina Gomez?
Okay. We will trail that.
Malik Hardy.
Good afternoon, sir.
MR. HARDY: Good afternoon.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you realize
you're under oath?
MR. HARDY: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: This applicant was denied for 12
juvenile arrests, starting in 2009 and ending in 2015.
The arrests range from battery, burglary, failure to
obey court orders, vandalism, and sexual battery. With
the applicant's history and having his first adult
arrest in 2016, the applicant was denied for these.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. How old
are you now?
MR. HARDY: 22.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: 22. Tell me your
side, why don't you explain.
MR. HARDY: Well, none of my cases -- I think,
I was all under 16 on all of them. So I was real young.
My first case was assault with a deadly weapon. I was
11 years old. I was inside of the Yoshinoya with all my
friends from school, from middle school. The store
clerk tried to kick me out of the store. So I pulled
out a knife and told him I wasn't going to leave. So I
was put on probation.
And then, basically, every other case from
there, it stems from just violating probation or doing
stuff while I was on probation and getting violated for
it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How long have you
lived in Las Vegas?
MR. HARDY: Since I was 18, so four years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. What
brought you here?
MR. HARDY: I was having a child. So I just
wanted to get out of California and get away from the
problems there.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are you currently
employed?
MR. HARDY: I work with Tile Warehouse
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International, and I'm a fourth-time college student.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And a what?
MR. HARDY: Fourth-time college student.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Why didn't you disclose
the domestic battery that's your adult arrest?
MR. HARDY: Okay. So before I went to go get
my guard card, I had went down to some police stations
and asked them. Because I was told by people, because
all my stuff is from the juvenile, that if I got like
for a guard card, that that stuff, like the juvenile
record doesn't carry on to your adult record. So when I
called the police station, I had them look my name up,
and they said I have nothing on my record. But it's
because, I guess, it was because it's in Nevada, and all
cases were in California.
So when I went, I didn't know that any of that
was on my record. I thought it was expunged already
because I was 18. I didn't know that I had to
physically go to California and appeal to get it
expunged.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So the arrest in 2016 was
in Nevada?
MR. HARDY: Yeah, but I didn't even, I didn't
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go to court for that. We were, me and my girlfriend
were arguing in a house. And one of my neighbors called
the police and said that we were fighting. When my
girlfriend got there, we both told them that we weren't
fighting. I got arrested for maybe not even a whole
day. And I was released. I never went to court. The
case was thrown out. The D.A. never picked up the case.
They said it was a D.A. reject.
So I didn't think that would be on my record,
either. That's why I didn't tell.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
questions?
All right. I'll entertain a motion.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Commissioner Nixon. I
move that we uphold the denial of Malik Hardy due to
nondisclosing of the arrest.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. I have a second. Any discussion?
I do have one question for the investigator.
Was this on an FBI report, the juvenile arrests?
MR. SALADINO: Yes, they were.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And just for the
applicant, you were not arrested for juvenile
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delinquency or what we would call a "chinza" offense,
which we would never hear about. You were arrested for
crimes. Like sexual battery, that stays with you no
matter what age you are.
MR. HARDY: Yeah, but I wasn't aware of that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You are aware
now.
MR. HARDY: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I'm making you
aware. All right. Because whoever gave you the
information before gave you bad information.
All right. We have a motion. We have a
second. All right. I'll call for a vote. All those in
favor of upholding the denial, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. You can come back in a year and reapply.
I would suggest that you be honest on your application.
Have a good day. Thank you.
MR. HARDY: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: Mr. Hayes, Jason
Hayes.
All right. We will trail that.
Gene Hobdy withdrew. Or postponed. I got
postponed. Okay.
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Larry Phillips, number 66. Mr. Phillips.
Good afternoon, sir.
MR. PHILLIPS: Hello. My name is Larry James
Phillips.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Pleased to meet
you. Do you understand you're under oath?
MR. PHILLIPS: Yes. Yes, I do.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: The applicant was denied for a
1990, out of Nevada, unlawful possession of a controlled
substance at a felony level, where he was found guilty.
The applicant was found guilty of a felony. He
disclosed the arrest and provided court documents to
show that he was honorably discharged from probation on
August 2nd of 1993.
1992, out of Nevada, possession of a dangerous
drug without a prescription. He was found guilty of a
gross misdemeanor. He was sentenced to probation, which
was revoked, and he served one year with credit for 33
days.
1989, or '98, in Nevada, domestic battery. He
was found guilty, and he was sentenced to domestic
violence classes.
The applicant did list all the arrests. And
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that's why we're here today.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good afternoon.
MR. PHILLIPS: Good afternoon.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We were all a
little crazy 20 or 30 years ago, weren't we?
MR. PHILLIPS: Yeah. I had some bad times and
some good times, but.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I appreciate your
honesty.
MR. PHILLIPS: I went to the classes. And I
went to the Salvation Army for nine months pertaining to
all that. And I had to do a class with the LRS system
for domestic violence. And I completed that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. PHILLIPS: So.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, I
appreciate your remembering. I'm dealing with people
today that can't remember something that happened nine
months ago.
MR. PHILLIPS: So I've been dealing with, this
trying to get a job. So I'm kind --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What are you
doing right now, sir?
MR. PHILLIPS: I've been retired since the
Riviera closed in 2015.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. PHILLIPS: I was a floor person, a dealer,
for 40 years just about.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Wow. Good for
you.
MR. PHILLIPS: Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
MR. PHILLIPS: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I don't have any
further questions. I think, it's going to be an easy
one. Thank you for your time.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, wait a minute. I'm
here.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you have a
driver's license?
MR. PHILLIPS: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: What state? What
state?
MR. PHILLIPS: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: It was a joke
from this morning.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yeah.
MR. PHILLIPS: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I'm making fun of
my partner.
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MR. PHILLIPS: I was here this morning, also.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Well, you might have to
sit back there for awhile until I make up my mind.
Mr. Phillips, correct?
MR. PHILLIPS: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: My name is Commissioner
Gronauer. I'll make a motion to grant the appeal of
Larry Phillips, who applied for registration, was denied
prior.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. I have a
motion. I have a second. And there's no further
discussion. All those in favor of granting the appeal,
say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Congratulations, sir.
MR. PHILLIPS: Thank you very much, panel, very
much. It is very interesting being here all day.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: No, it is.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We're meeting
again tomorrow.
MR. PHILLIPS: I could show up.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have my
personal invite.
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Okay. Number 67, Richard Thomas.
Good morning.
MR. THOMAS: Good morning.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: It's a white
collar criminal.
MR. THOMAS: Yeah, you don't see that too
often.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You don't see too
many. Yeah, I got this, yeah. Okay. Mr. Saladino.
MR. SALADINO: The applicant was denied for a
2004 uttering or publishing, intent to pass false title,
which was a felony in Michigan. He was found guilty.
This is a typo on the report, because this was listed.
And he did list the arrest. And got one to five years
suspended with three years probation.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. How long
have you lived in Las Vegas?
MR. THOMAS: Six years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: What do you do
for a living?
MR. THOMAS: Right now, well, right now -- I
was working as a guard. But in the last month and a
half, I haven't really been working. I just find odd
jobs, temp services right now for Odyssey and Eastridge.
BOARD CHAIRMAN GRONAUER: So where were you
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working as a guard for five and a half years in
Las Vegas?
MR. THOMAS: No, not five and a half years.
Just a few months. Because I had my provisionary since
April, and I was working.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. What
did you --
MR. THOMAS: Before that, I was a stay-at-home
dad, and my wife worked.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Well,
good for you. I'm dying to know this story. Tell us
about the false title. We don't get many of these.
MR. THOMAS: Bad check back in where -- where
I'm from, that was a thing. I just started having
children, and I needed quick money. People was printing
checks, and they say, "Hey, put in your name. Just go
ahead and take it to the liquor store, and you knock it
on out." And that's what I did.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, it's a check.
MR. THOMAS: Yes, a bad check.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We call it
something different here.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: False title? Yeah.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, all right.
Got it. Got it. All right. Any other questions from
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You're married now?
MR. THOMAS: Yes. I have been married for 12
years, and I have 13 children.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Ooh.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Oh, sheez.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: How many? How
many? You got a record. They didn't hear you up north.
MR. THOMAS: 13.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: 13. God bless
you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You got 13 by this lady
back here?
MR. THOMAS: No, I have seven, I have seven by
her.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: She's standing by you.
That says a lot.
MR. THOMAS: I have two children, four
step-children and seven biological.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's nice. She's
standing by you, Mr. Thomas. And, I think, that says a
lot.
MR. THOMAS: We've been married 12 long years.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You're doing
good. You're doing good.
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: How many more children
in the future?
MR. THOMAS: None. I'm done, you know. The
last one better be Jesus, 'cause I'm done.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I'll
call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make a motion.
Let me see. For Richard Thomas, correct?
MR. THOMAS: Yes, sir.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. That we
overturn the denial. I make a motion that we overturn
the denial for Mr. Thomas, who applied for registration
and was denied.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. We have a
motion to uphold the -- no, to overturn the denial.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Right.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And we have a
second. No further discussion. All in favor, say
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
All right. The motion is approved.
Congratulations, sir.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Congratulations.
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MR. THOMAS: Thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Get working.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Yeah. 13 kids.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You're making
Commissioner Nixon --
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Hot, 13 kids, whew.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Toy. Mr. Toy?
We will trail that.
Mr. Jackson. Yes, Tyree Jackson. Thanks for
sticking around. Mr. Jackson, you understand you're
under oath?
MR. JACKSON: Yes, sir.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Saladino, talk to me, or us, please.
MR. SALADINO: Yes. The applicant was denied
for a 2009 battery with substantial bodily harm,
domestic violence, out of Nevada. It was a felony. He
was found guilty. The applicant disclosed this arrest,
served five years probation and completed the DV course.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
Mr. Jackson, how long have you lived in Las Vegas?
MR. JACKSON: All my life. Can you hear me?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Now I can.
MR. JACKSON: Okay.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You have to make
sure they hear you up north.
MR. JACKSON: Okay. Okay. Cool. All my life.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And what
do you do for employment right now?
MR. JACKSON: Right now, I'm just doing little
temporary agencies. I'm working with this company
called Millennium Staffing, and just trying to get
stable work right now.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. What's the
longest job you've had?
MR. JACKSON: The longest job I've had, I
worked unarmed security at the Sands Expo.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And how
long were you there?
MR. JACKSON: I think, about like four or five
years, like four or five years, something like that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And you
haven't been in trouble since '09?
MR. JACKSON: No.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Who was the
victim of the domestic violence?
MR. JACKSON: My child's mother.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. JACKSON: Can I elaborate on it?
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah.
MR. JACKSON: Oh, oh.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No, yes, you can.
MR. JACKSON: Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: As long as you
don't take too long to elaborate.
MR. JACKSON: Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no.
Long story short, I was going through a lot in my life.
My dad passed. I know that's not an excuse. But I just
felt like kind of like the ends of the world, like just
felt like my world was coming crumbling. And I started
experimenting with drugs and stuff like that.
And we got into an argument about something,
and, you know, I just, just -- I can't even explain it.
It was just -- but I was just high and committed the
crime. And I feel, I still, we still, we're caring, but
I still let her know that I really feel bad. I really
feel bad, a lot of remorse for what I did. I just feel
like nobody deserves that. You know, if I'm going
through problems, I shouldn't take it out on nobody
else, even if we get into an argument. Or stuff should
never turn physical, basically.
And ever since I've been out... I don't know
if somebody can come and grab this or I give this to
you.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Why don't you
explain what you have.
MR. JACKSON: Addiction and prevention classes,
anger management. These are all of the certificates
trying to better myself and trying to learn new tactics.
If, you know, somebody get in your face, you don't
always have to fight, walk away, you know, try to be --
you know, basically, deescalate stuff. But everything
doesn't always have to be a fight or --
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: You're too close.
MR. JACKSON: Oh, oh. Oh.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You're okay.
You're the first one we had that happen. Don't worry
about it.
MR. JACKSON: Oh. Basically --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: My question to
you, these classes you did on your own, or you were
court-ordered?
MR. JACKSON: Court-ordered.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. But you
completed them all.
MR. JACKSON: And then, when I got out, I was
with this program called Hope of Prisoners. And they
had anger management, substance abuse. You can't go
through the program unless you go through their program.
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So I did that, too.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: My church is a
partner with them. I'm familiar with it.
MR. JACKSON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you. I appreciate it. It's all right. I appreciate
your comments.
MR. JACKSON: One more thing.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. JACKSON: Before, before I committed that
crime, I used to work for a company called Pro-Tect
Security for like -- I don't know if you guys got it on
in your papers, but you have got everything, but I used
to work with them for two whole years, Pro-Tect
Security. And so I know how to, I know all about
security.
The only reason why I lost the job is because I
got this felony. And it was like, well, you can't have
a felony. You got to wait a couple years. And unless
you were unarmed security. And then that's pretty much
what I've been doing, working unarmed security. And
that's pretty much it.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
MR. JACKSON: No problem.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any other
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questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah. When was the
last time you took one of the classes, when was the last
time, with Hope for the Prisoners or anything, how long
ago?
MR. JACKSON: Two thousand -- can I look at
this?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Sure.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You can look at
anything you want, sir. You can just give me a
guesstimate.
MR. JACKSON: Two thousand -- the whole year,
like two thousand like 13.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay.
MR. JACKSON: And before that, when I was --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's good.
MR. JACKSON: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's good. What do
you plan on doing if you get a work card?
MR. JACKSON: Just basically have stable work.
Just basically get a job, of course, keep it as long as
I can, take care of my family, stay out of trouble, like
I have been staying out of the trouble. And just
basically just, you know, live my life, live my life and
just keep doing what I've been doing for the last six,
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seven years, just staying out of the trouble, no traffic
tickets, no jaywalking tickets, no nothing. Just trying
my best just to stay clean.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: From what I see,
Mr. Jackson, just your presentation and as to your
demeanor, it seems like these classes worked for you.
It seems like you really did learn, and you're on the
right track. That's what it appears to me. Okay. As
far as working armed security, I don't know, but.
MR. JACKSON: I don't want to work armed
security.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, like I say, with
DV, they're probably not going to allow you, let you
have it, you know. Just so you know, that's the law.
MR. JACKSON: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: You know, it takes a
lot more to get over that. All right. But no problem,
just so you understand that. Okay?
MR. JACKSON: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right. I have no
more questions, Chairman.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Any
other questions?
Call for a motion.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Doing it?
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BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Commissioner Nixon. I
move that we over -- or that we grant the appeal for
Tyree Jackson and allow him the guard card.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a motion.
Do I have a second?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. I have a second. I don't think there's
any more discussion. Call for a vote. All those in
favor of granting the appeal, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Congratulations.
MR. JACKSON: I have a quick question.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I don't know, it
may change my mind.
MR. JACKSON: No, no, it's something good.
It's something good.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
MR. JACKSON: It's something good. I did an
application for Fremont Experience Security, and they
told me -- what's that, what's that called? Intent to
hire, if I get the guard card. So when you guys give me
whatever paper, can I just take that to them, or?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Talk to your
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investigator, Saladino. Maybe Mr. Saladino can answer
that question.
MR. JACKSON: Talk to this guy in the glasses?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No, not him.
MR. JACKSON: Well, I don't know. There's two
guys over there.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Did he talk to
you? Okay.
MR. JACKSON: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And he's not
talking to anybody else.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Talk to some guy
downstairs.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well, we'll work
with you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Congratulations.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Best of luck to
you.
MR. JACKSON: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD MEMBER FLYNN: All right.
Mr. Eta, Vincent Eta, E-T-A?
All right. I'm going to call at the trails one
more time. And then we'll do a block.
So the first one, 46, Wayne Byrd. Is Mr. Wayne
Byrd here? Nope.
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Number 53, Willie Edwards. Is Mr. Willie
Edwards here? Nope.
Trenses Love, number 54. Mr. Trenses Love?
No.
Larry -- no. I'm sorry. Hephzibah Dollar. Is
Hephzibah Dollar here? No.
And then Kristina Gomez, number 62?
Jason Hayes, number 64?
Timothy Toy, 68?
Tyree Jackson, 69?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: We just had him.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, we just had
him. My apologies. All right.
And then Vincent Eta?
All right. So I propose a motion as a block
vote to deny the appeals on number 46, Wayne Byrd; 53,
Willie Edwards; 54, Trenses Love; 57, Mr. Dollar; 64,
Jason Hayes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: 62, also. I believe,
we trailed that.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, 62,
Kristina Gomez. Thank you. 68, Timothy Toy. And
number 70, Vincent Eta.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I second.
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motion. We have a second. No discussion. All in favor
of the motion, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. Motion carried.
What else have we got to do today?
MR. INGRAM: Agenda items 71, 72 and 73 were
all noticed by the legal counsel for their appearance
to start tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: So that concludes the agenda for
today.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: So that's why they're
not here.
MR. INGRAM: Pardon me?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It's all right.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: Okay. So, you know, you can move
to adjourn today, and we can reconvene tomorrow at
9:00 a.m.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. So,
to your knowledge, are all three of them going to be
here tomorrow?
MR. INGRAM: We're not sure. Legal counsel's
not sure. She has not heard back from any of them on
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whether they will appear. So we have to assume they
will be here.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: And which they were noticed.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And if they're
not here, and they've been noticed, we can make -- we
can take action even if they're not here?
MR. INGRAM: That's correct.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good. All right.
I will call for adjournment. Oh. Woops. Mike's going
to earn his money. Come on, jump in there.
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, for the record.
As far as that last statement, as far as the
ability to take action, that's dependent on the facts
and circumstances as they will come to light tomorrow.
There's always issues that you can't necessarily
foresee.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. What I'm
saying, my question was more, do the parties have to be
here for us to take an action?
MR. DETMER: If proper service was provided and
satisfied.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Well,
we'll find out. All right.
MR. DETMER: And as far as taking action, some
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form of action can be taken. I just wanted to make sure
there was no misunderstanding as far as the type of
action that can be taken.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We can only take
legal action.
All right. We can only do the right thing.
Okay. All right. I'll call for a motion to
adjourn until 9:00 a.m. tomorrow. We'll be back in...
What?
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer.
We're not going to adjourn the full meeting
until tomorrow. But given that it's put into two
sections, do you have any interest in maybe doing a
public comment just in case?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well the public
might have an interest. But that may be my opinion.
All right. Anybody want public comment?
What? You're looking at me.
MR. SPRIGGS: How are you guys doing?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Oh, you got to push the
button, Mike.
MR. SPRIGGS: Yeah.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Make sure it's on.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Who you are.
MR. SPRIGGS: Michael Spriggs with Spriggs
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Incorporated. I'm the president of the National Society
of -- Nevada Society of Professional Investigators.
I just have a question on the comment that was
just made by counsel, is if, in fact, proper notice was
given to the last three -- 71, 72, 73, I think, are on
the calendar. I didn't bring it up here. If that's
correct, an action can be taken by the Board in response
to the citations issued or disciplinary action. Is that
correct?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Let me.
My question was, can we -- are we able to do something
if the parties don't show tomorrow? My concern being
because some of these parties might not show. And from
what I understood from legal counsel is we can take
action provided tomorrow that there's testimony given
that they were properly noticed. Okay. That's normally
a receipt of registered mail, discussions between
attorneys, things of that nature. And that's how I
understood his response.
So we can take action tomorrow provided the
parties were properly noticed. We won't know that until
tomorrow.
MR. SPRIGGS: That's the response I wanted to
make sure I understood.
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MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, for the record.
It's just my hesitancy to make any kind of
specific statement, because I don't know what, how
service was perfected, if perfected.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Right. We won't
know that till tomorrow.
MR. DETMER: Therefore, I make no definitive
statement on that.
MR. SPRIGGS: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We got to find
out how they were served tomorrow. We got to come back
tomorrow no matter what. All right.
MR. SPRIGGS: Thank you all.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you.
All right. Anything else?
Going once. That's all I'm going to do.
All right. I'll take a motion for adjournment.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I make a motion for
adjournment.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I have a motion.
I have a second. All in favor, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
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CARSON CITY, NEVADA, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2019,
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Good morning. We
are going to start day two of the Private Investigators
Licensing Board.
And, Kevin, why don't you tell us what we're
doing today.
MR. INGRAM: Would you like me to take roll
first?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, that would
be a great idea.
MR. INGRAM: Let's do that. So, Board Member
Flynn?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Here.
MR. INGRAM: Board Member Nixon?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Here.
MR. INGRAM: Board Member Gronauer?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Here.
MR. INGRAM: So we're going to start with item
number 71 on the agenda. Item number 71 has requested
to be postponed. So with your agreement, we can
postpone that to a December Board meeting.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And
anything you can put on the record as to why they want a
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postponement, what the status is, so that we're all on
the same page?
MR. INGRAM: Right. Currently, the individual
has his work card suspended, this individual, where we
heard, had the first part of the hearing, and we didn't
get to the final closing. He has agreed to keep his
card suspended. He is in the process of working with
his attorney and myself and our attorney in signing a
payment agreement for the outstanding fines. And at the
direction of the Board, he is also pursuing moving
forward for licensure.
So if we can get an agreement of payment of the
fines, it'll kind of take care of everything that we
were hearing. And then it would come before the Board
for a hearing for licensure.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Anything
else counsel would like to add, or?
All right. I would like to --
MS. BORDELOVE: I will add, and I'll speak into
the mic, is I have no objection to the postponing
request. And I will also note that we did not notice
him for today's meeting because it would need to be
waived, because we figured, if they were going to be
here, he would waiving notice for his counsel, through
his counsel. So we can't discuss him in detail.
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Then,
definitely, it will be agendized on our next meeting
with us, at bare minimum a status check and an update.
All right. Any other questions from the Board
on this one?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Do we get apprised as
to what are the negotiations, the ending of the
negotiations, or do we have to make the final decisions,
or?
MS. BORDELOVE: If we were to come to a
settlement regarding the complaint in the matter, which,
since there was a department hearing, was a complaint to
revoke his work card, if a settlement is reached
regarding that complaint, the Board will have to approve
the settlement agreement before it becomes final.
As for payment plans, usually those are
approved by staff in general. If you'd like to be
apprised of what any payment plan is, staff can always
keep you apprised of any final payment plan.
And as for any application for licensure, it'll
go through the same process as any application for
licensure. So you guys will have final approval of the
license as you would call it.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you. Just for
clarification, if you come up with a plan, that's okay
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with me. The idea is, what is the negotiated
settlement? That was the thing I was thinking about.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: As of right
now -- correct me if I'm wrong -- there's no negotiated
settlement. There's a fine. They have to pay it.
They're working on the payment plan.
MS. BORDELOVE: Right. The complaint had to do
with -- the complaint in the matter had to do with --
was trying to revoke his work card. That is not -- I
mean, and usually we can't talk the settlement
negotiations and anything to the offense. But if that
were to reach any settlement, the fines are a separate
issue. The individual had five outstanding citations,
two of which have gone to the Controller's Office, three
of which are still at the Board. And those are being
treated as other citations would, because they were not
appealed within the appeals period.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. Just a general
question, then, not counting this particular person, but
in general, how many times do we go on postponing,
postponing, postponing?
MS. BORDELOVE: It has to do with whether or
not -- I mean, at this point, because he's in suspension
status, there was no objections from staff or myself to
postponing, because he cannot use the work card at this
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time, and he is not using the work card at this time.
So holding off at this point, we didn't have objections
to.
However, if that changes, or we can always run
all the proper notices and schedule a hearing without
agreement from the other individual on a hearing. That
is true with any. As you'll see with the ones here
today, I had no response whether they will show up or
not. But with proper notice, you don't need that.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Yeah, I was just -- and
in general?
MS. BORDELOVE: Yeah, that would be in general.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's what I wanted to
know, how many times we postpone something. It doesn't
go through four different boards or something as time
goes on, you know. And it's just something that I was
just trying to figure it out.
MS. BORDELOVE: There isn't any, there aren't
any statutes necessarily saying that something has to be
heard within a certain amount of time when you have
agreement from the other side. You have one statute --
I forget the exact citation -- regarding when an appeal
is heard. However, it allows the Board to postpone
should they desire to. And in this sense, we're getting
a request from even the person that has the right to
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hear it. So.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Thank you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I would think
that if we're still outstanding by the next Board
meeting, that, I believe, it will be the intention of
this Board to take it to the next step.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And I don't mind
if you communicate that to his counsel.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: And I would consider
that in general for any types of things we have in the
future. So it's not just speaking of one case.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Next.
MR. INGRAM: 72, the next agenda item is item
number 72, Torrey Mitchell, appealing the issuance of
Citation I-0007-19 to the Board pursuant to NRS 648.165.
MS. BORDELOVE: So I can start off here. I was
going to see if anybody -- we call if the individual is
here. Torrey Mitchell it does not appear is here in the
south. Do you have anybody coming forward in the north?
MS. KLEMME: We do not.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay. Well, I will say this is
an appeal of an unlicensed activity citation. It was
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originally noticed for the June meeting. However, the
individual requested that it be continued or postponed.
He did not specify when. We renoticed him for this
meeting. However, the postal service did not actually
deliver, we don't have proof that they actually
delivered it.
So we cannot default him at this time. He does
not appear to be here. But we will go ahead and notice
him for the December meeting. And I will probably
notice him much sooner, so that if it doesn't get
delivered, I will have a chance to do it again.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And
there's no reason to believe that he is continuing with
his illegal activity while we sit and wonder what's
going on?
MR. SWARTHOUT: Not as of yet.
MS. BORDELOVE: And, again, this one, the
individual in this case does not hold any license with
the PILB. This is an appeal of the citation was issued
to him.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. So
this was someone that was working in security and didn't
have a license, or?
MR. SWARTHOUT: Correct.
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spoke, since we can't see him on the videoconference.)
MR. SWARTHOUT: Investigator Swarthout.
THE REPORTER: Oh, okay. Thank you very much.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: He only said one
word, "Correct."
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: That's a two-syllable
word for him.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Next.
MR. INGRAM: Item number 73, Dominique Fuiava
is appealing the issuance of Citation -- I'm sorry.
Item number 73, Dominique --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Excuse me. Do we have
to do any kind of vote or anything on that, on the first
one?
MS. BORDELOVE: We cannot take action on it
because we --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I just wanted to
be sure.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We can send a
stern letter from the postal office.
MR. INGRAM: Okay. The next item is item
number 73, Dominique Fuiava. He is appealing the
issuance of Citation I-0020-19 to the Board pursuant to
NRS 648.165.
MS. BORDELOVE: I don't believe he is present.
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Is he present in the north?
MS. KLEMME: No, he's not.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Mary, is he up
there?
MS. KLEMME: No, he's not.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay. Then, this one, he was
noticed on. So this is, it's an appeal of unlicensed
activity, Citation I-0020-19, as Mr. Ingram stated. It
was issued to Dominique -- it is possible that I am
pronouncing his name wrong -- Fuiava ("Foo-ee-ah-va").
But I will go with my best guess on the pronunciation of
this one.
As I can show you, yeah, Mr. Fuiava was
providing private security and/or executive protection
services inside the Omnia Nightclub on January 16, 2019.
Mr. Fuiava has a registered work card with the PILB but
does not hold a full license and was not working for a
licensed company on the night in question.
What I'll clarify, though, is, as we've had
with other hearings, I'm not seeking to revoke his work
card at this time. This is not a complaint. He simply
appealed the citation that was issued to him. And this
is the appeal.
Because he is not here, I would like to call my
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then the Board has the option to deny the appeal because
he's not here, or if you would like a showing regarding
background for the citation or anything behind it, I was
prepared for hearing, so we have it all here for you.
But that will be up to the Board.
She needs to be sworn in.
MR. DETMER: Ms. Turman, if you could please
stand and raise your right hand. Do you hereby swear or
affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth?
THE WITNESS: I do.
MR. DETMER: Thank you.
D E B R A T U R M A N,
having been first duly sworn/affirmed,
was examined and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. BORDELOVE:
Q. Ms. Turman, did you mail the notice of hearing
in this matter via U.S. certified mail?
A. I did.
Q. Okay. And if I could have --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: She's going to
need to move a little bit closer to the mic. And her
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mic's, correct?
THE WITNESS: Yes.
MS. BORDELOVE: Yes. And if I can have
actually all of the exhibits at this point -- I can go
through some of the background to each one. But your
Board Counsel has them there. If I can ask that they be
admitted into the record.
MS. KLEMME: Yes, I'll give them to Shannon.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Do you need a
motion, or just my --
MS. BORDELOVE: You, as Chair, or as Acting
Chair.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We will accept
these.
(Exhibits 1 through 6 were previously marked
and are now admitted.)
BY MS. BORDELOVE:
Q. Okay. So now that they're admitted, if you'll
look to the first page, this is the Notice of Hearing.
And I'd like to label that as Exhibit 1.
And it is, for Shannon's purposes, it is the
first two pages of the packet you -- or, sorry, first
three pages of the packet you just got. Four pages. I
apologize for that.
Is this the Notice of Hearing that you sent?
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A. Yes, it is.
Q. Okay. On what date did you mail it?
A. August 13th, 2019.
Q. And did you receive the certified mail receipt
back?
A. We received part of the certified mail receipt
back, the one indicating that we actually mailed it. I
had to look up the tracking number.
Q. Okay.
A. And other than that, we got the -- the tracking
number indicates that it was delivered from, or by the
USPS.
Q. Okay. And are you referring to page three of
Exhibit 1?
A. Yes, I am.
MR. BORDELOVE: Well, it's a screenshot there.
Okay.
Then, does the Board have any questions for
Ms. Turman?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No, thank you.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I have a question.
Just for the record, I believe, it was taken care of,
and I want to put it on the record. On the citation,
I'm just noticing here, and it says Suite 4500. And
we're not in Suite 4500 right now.
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MS. BORDELOVE: That is --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Has that been checked?
That's all.
MS. BORDELOVE: Yes. Mr. Ingram, I believe,
and he can mention, too, checked right at 9:00 o'clock,
as well as we put a sign on the door that states that
today's meeting is happening in this room.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: It is just the record
type of thing.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Well done.
MR. INGRAM: And for the record, Kevin Ingram.
I checked it at 9:00, and I checked it at 9:05.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm a licensed
investigator and Clark County member.
MR. DETMER: Let me see your licence.
(Laughter.)
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you.
MS. BORDELOVE: Now I'll turn to the Board, if
you would like me to go through the background and
citation or what the Board would like at this time.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I feel the
Board -- do we need to do a motion? I mean my mind
thinks we should just go forward. We're all here.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: We knew about
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this meeting. There's a lot of people in this room. I
have no intention of postponing this one.
MS. BORDELOVE: Well, this would not be
postponing. I'm simply -- you have the ability to deny
the appeal, because he's not here, as a default. But if
you'd like some background, and for the record it's
always nice to have, I'm happy to go through the
evidence that was just admitted, as well as we have two
videos that there are screenshots of in your packet, but
we can show you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, I'm in
favor of a summary of what occurred.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay.
MS. BORDELOVE: Then, may I call my second
witness, which would be Zachary Swarthout.
And if we want to swear both at the same time.
Dan Hoban over here is also going to be testifying.
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, for the record.
And just briefly, as legal counsel was just
saying, was that with sufficient legal notice having
been provided, the Commission, the Board can consider
and dispose of the case as it sees fit, which would
include just denying the appeal. But we're happy to
swear the witnesses in, obviously.
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So if you both could raise your right hand. Do
you hereby swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth?
(Zachary Swarthout and Daniel Hoban were
sworn/affirmed.)
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay. And, Mr. Detmer, do you
have one extra packet there? Or I can show the one I
have here. But, I think, okay.
Let's see. Let's start with Mr. Swarthout.
Z A C H A R Y S W A R T H O U T,
having been first duly sworn/affirmed,
was examined and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. BORDELOVE:
Q. Would you please state your name for the
record.
A. Zachary Swarthout.
Q. And what is your position at the PILB?
A. Compliance/Audit Investigator.
Q. And will you briefly describe what your
position entails.
A. I do compliance checks through checking on our
licensed companies and looking for unlicensed activity.
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Q. And let's see. Let's look at Exhibit 2. It's
going to be, I think, page five in there. That is
the -- or, well, can you testify as to what it is? It
should be the citation.
A. It is Citation I-0020-19.
Q. And do you recognize this document?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Is this a citation that you issued?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. Okay. And then we'll move on to Exhibit 3,
which is going to be page -- let's see. It's probably
page nine. It is on a lined piece of paper. Well, it's
a copy of. Do you recognize this document?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. And what is it?
A. It is an appeal letter from Dominique Fuiava.
Q. And was this received by the PILB within the
30-day appeals period?
A. Yes, it was.
Q. Okay. And let's move on to -- well, a few
questions before we get to Exhibit 4. What type of
investigations were you performing in January of 2019
when looking for unlicensed activity?
A. We were doing social media posts investigations
for people tagging, saying that they're doing security,
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private security in Nevada.
Q. Did you encounter any social media posts by
Mr. Fuiava?
A. Not by Mr. Fuiava. By another individual.
Q. Okay. And let's turn to Exhibit 4, which is
the next page of your packet. What is this?
A. This is a post from a guy who goes by the name
Opie Chuck. His actual name is -- let's see if I have
it here in my notes readily available. It is a Chuck
Opachich. I know I'm brutalizing that. O-P-A-C-H-I-C-H
is his actual last name. And he tagged it with TruUso
Security on it.
Q. And did you observe this Instagram post
yourself?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Did you take a screenshot?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Okay. What is TruUso, if I'm pronouncing that
correctly?
A. TruUso, from what we've been able to find out
from people who we've already cited, is an unlicensed
group of guys that are doing executive protection in the
nightclubs.
Q. Okay. And let's go to the video. I think, I
have a plug here, but. Oh, if you've got that. I'm
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going to show a video. And if you will briefly
describe, after it's shown, what this video is. This
will be Exhibit 4. It's that one.
(A video was played.)
BY MS. BORDELOVE:
Q. Is this, is that a video that was in this
Instagram post?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. Okay. And what did you see in that video?
A. It's a bachelor party, what I know from the
post is that it was a bachelor party at Omnia Nightclub.
During the 14 and 22nd mark, you will see Dominique
Fuiava in the background walking around.
Q. Okay. And does he appear to be providing
executive protection services?
A. It is hard to tell from the video.
Q. Okay. And then let's move to the next page in
your packet, which it will be Exhibit 5. And it is an
email chain, which would be about three pages. Do you
recognize this email chain?
A. Yes, I do.
Q. Did you send the email on page two?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Will you please read that email for me?
A. Good morning, Mr. Hennessey. I got your
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contact information from Investigator Vincent Saladino.
I am contacting you in regards to a possible unlicensed
activity in your club on January 16th, 2019 at the
Skydeck. The group called TruUso, they are a group of
Samoans that -- that were in your nightclub, had
previous run-ins with. They were there for Chuck
Opachich's bachelor party. If possible, could you email
over the sign-in sheets, if there's one for private
security. And I've attached some photos of unlicensed
EP individuals.
Q. Okay. Thank you. And just a final couple
questions. Does Mr. Fuiava hold a registered work card
with the PILB?
A. Yes, he does.
Q. On the night of the January 16th, 2019, was
Mr. Fuiava listed on the roster of any company licensed
with the PILB?
A. No, he wasn't.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay. I think, that's the
remainder of my questions for you.
Does the Board have any questions for
Mr. Swarthout?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: This is Ray
Flynn. Just so I can understand what's going on here.
MS. BORDELOVE: M-hm (affirmative).
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So he's providing
executive protection inside a club?
THE WITNESS: Correct.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Who was he
protecting?
THE WITNESS: Chuck Opachich.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And that means
absolutely nothing to me.
THE WITNESS: He's -- a lot of the guys that
were there for his bachelor are Boston Red Sox players.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Is he is a
baseball player himself?
THE WITNESS: Yes, but he never made it to the
major leagues, but his clients did.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And he
needs protection?
We don't know. All right. Okay. All right.
It's a world I don't play in, so that's why I don't know
what's going on, but. Okay. Thank you.
Any other questions from the Board?
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: So I just wanted to make
sure. They did provide us with a list at the nightclub.
It's saying that these two people were, the two -- the
first email is the one showing that these two people
were providing --
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MS. BORDELOVE: Yes, and I will get to that
with my next witness.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Gotcha. Okay. Thank you.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay. I'd like to call
Mr. Daniel Hoban. Am I pronouncing your name correctly?
THE WITNESS: Yes.
D A N I E L H O B A N,
having been first duly sworn/affirmed,
was examined and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MS. BORDELOVE:
Q. Will you please state your spell your name for
the record?
A. Daniel Hoban, D-A-N-I-E-L, H-O-B-A-N.
Q. Okay. Who is your employer, and what is your
position there?
A. I work for Hakkasan Group. I am the Security
Specialist Supervisor.
Q. Please describe briefly what your position
entails.
A. We are hired to handle anything and everything,
from working with our executives, to celebrities, to
high-end clientele, down to doing ID checks, walk-outs,
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regular nightclub security.
Q. Okay. Let me refer to Exhibit 5, which is that
email chain. Will you please look at page one. Do you
recognize this email?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you send the email on page one, that first
email?
A. Yes.
Q. Will you please read it briefly.
A. Yes. It says "I do not have a sign-in sheet
for the ones that were in that night. The two that were
with the group were Dominique Fuiava, R-087421, and Mark
Jerome, R-068734."
Q. Okay. And where did you obtain that
information if you didn't have a sign-in sheet?
A. I was actually with the group that came in,
that group with Chuck. And those two individuals came
in. I recognize them from previous dealings. Asked
them if they were working. They said yes. I asked them
for their work cards. They presented them.
Q. Okay. And then I'd like to move to Exhibit 6,
which in the packet is a screenshot, but it's going to
be another video that I'll show you.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Is there any way to point
out who the gentleman is, if he's in the video?
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MS. BORDELOVE: Yes, he is in this video.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
(A video was played.)
BY MS. BORDELOVE:
Q. If you will point out when you see him.
A. That's Mark Jerome that's checking his ID.
Q. So he's the individual in the black T-shirt?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. And this, where was this video taken?
A. That's Omnia Nightclub.
Q. Okay. And that the entryway?
A. That is -- they had a stage set up for the
individual, Chuck. So that is the entry to the stage.
That is one of the two entries.
Q. Okay. And is this security video footage?
A. Yes.
Q. Okay. And just to clarify for the record,
you're identifying Mr. Fuiava there in the video?
A. No, Mr. Fuiava is not in that video.
Q. Oh. It is Mark Jerome who is in that video?
A. That is Mark Jerome in the black T-shirt.
Q. Okay.
A. Polo.
Q. But you did witness Mr. Fuiava there?
A. Yes. There's two sets of stairs to that.
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Mr. Fuiava was on the other set of the stairs.
Q. Okay. And he presented his work card as
working --
A. Yes.
Q. -- executive protection services?
A. Yes.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay. Thank you.
Any questions for the witness from the Board?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, just so I
understand how it works. So you're checking. I mean I
appreciate you being here. I appreciate your
cooperation. But you're checking. It sounds like it's
routine that you check work cards of people saying they
are bodyguards or --
THE WITNESS: Yes.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: -- executive
protection?
THE WITNESS: Absolutely.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: And why is that?
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Mr. Kevin Ingram, some of them have come in, stating
that they are working. And they're not actually
licensed. They just have the registered work card. And
from my talks with Kevin, he said that's illegal
activity essentially. So we check them to see if they
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are actually licensed. And then I contact Kevin to see
if they are actually licensed and claiming that they're
working for who they're working for. Because in the
previous dealings with some of these guys, they come in
and just work for cash, and they either don't have a
license or aren't registered, or whatever the case.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Now, do they
identify -- I mean are they identifying themselves as
"I'm security" to not pay like an entry fee or
something, or they just say --
THE WITNESS: No. They'll come in with like a
client that is purchasing a table, and they're working
for that person.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: So just through
your experience and knowledge, skills and abilities, you
determine by looking, you say they're probably security?
THE WITNESS: Yes. And then we'll either
approach them or ask them, ask the guest, or ask the
host if they have security or if this person is working
security. And most of the time, those individuals say,
"Yes, I'm working."
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. And then
one other question that's not germane to this case, but
just so I understand the environment.
THE WITNESS: M-hm (affirmative).
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ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Are executive
security or bodyguards permitted to be armed in clubs?
THE WITNESS: No. No one is, no one is
permitted to be armed inside of our club.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Even if they've
got a license to be armed, if they come in as a
bodyguard, they've got to leave their gun elsewhere?
THE WITNESS: That is correct.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
you. Appreciate it.
MS. BORDELOVE: Any further questions from the
Board?
Okay. And that is the end of my presentation.
I think, you're done with yours. Thank you.
MS. KLEMME: Excuse me.
MS. BORDELOVE: Just kind of as a --
MS. KLEMME: Rosalie, excuse me. The person
who just spoke.
MS. BORDELOVE: Yes.
MS. KLEMME: Can they turn on their mic?
MR. INGRAM: I just mentioned to Mr. Hoban that
he was welcome to stay to watch the rest of the hearing
or that he was permitted to leave. This is Kevin.
THE REPORTER: Okay. Thank you.
Thank you, Mary.
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MS. BORDELOVE: Just to summarize, I've shown
you that Mr. Fuiava was providing executive protection
services on the night in question. He does not hold a
full license and was not working for a licensed company
at the time, which is why he was issued the citation at
issue.
He appealed the citation, though his appeal
letter does not list reasons why.
So I would ask that the Board uphold the
citation.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. Thank you
for the summary. And it's what I needed. And I don't
know if there's any questions from the Board before we
proceed.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I may -- on the video,
okay, and I might have to him come, the man come back
up.
MS. BORDELOVE: We can have a witness come back
if you have additional questions.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: All right.
Commissioner Gronauer.
On the video, it showed the one gentleman. And
as the witness testified, that he knew the other
gentleman, Mr. Fuiava, who's appealing the citation. We
didn't see him on the video. But he was checked. We
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know he was at the end of the stage, the other side of
the stage, two entrances. How do we know that he was
checked, or how did we get that information?
MS. BORDELOVE: Mr. Hoban testified that he
observed him providing his work card and being checked.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. And he asked for
that, and he said he wasn't?
MS. BORDELOVE: Yes.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Okay. I just didn't
get the whole story.
MS. BORDELOVE: That's fine.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'm sorry. Thank you.
That's all.
MS. BORDELOVE: Okay.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay. All right.
Without any further questions, I'll entertain a motion.
And, basically, do we want to deny the appeal?
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make a motion.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Okay.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make a motion that
we uphold the denial. I guess, we have to do the whole
thing.
MS. BORDELOVE: That you are upholding the
citation.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: On Dominique Fuiava,
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that we is appealing the issuance of Citation 1-0020-19
pursuant to the NRS 648.165.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. I
have a motion. I have a second.
(The Reported indicated that the person
speaking needs to turn on their mic.)
MR. DETMER: Mike Detmer, for the record. I
said nothing of substance.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I concur.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Good morning to you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion, and we have a second. And I don't see
any further discussion. So I'll ask for a vote on this,
that we deny this citation's appeal and we uphold the
citation issued by staff. All in favor, state "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carried.
Mr. Ingram, any other business this morning?
MS. BORDELOVE: One, I guess, thing to clarify
for the record, that we often have earlier on, we're
upholding the citation, but it couldn't hurt to
officially, to have a motion to find that service was
proper, that he was served. We often do that in
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defaults and didn't at the beginning.
MR. DETMER: And Mike Detmer, for the record,
acting as Board Counsel.
Counsel is correct as far as making that clear
for the record, if that wasn't clear already. And I
have to make one statement, and it is preceded by an
acknowledgement of my ignorance on it. But these notice
of violations, they have set fines. There doesn't have
to be a restatement of the fines?
MS. BORDELOVE: I don't believe. The citation
itself contains the fine. And so they were upholding
the citation as is.
MR. DETMER: Okay. Because I just wasn't sure
if there was an argument for sentencing.
MS. BORDELOVE: But a motion regarding service
and/or finding him in default is helpful for a clear
record, while we upheld the citation, and you guys made
a finding of that. But that finding would be helpful
for the record, in the event that he were to try and
challenge this later.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Is this a new motion or
an amendment to the motion?
MS. BORDELOVE: A new motion on the same agenda
item.
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whatever you said.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We
have a motion. Do we have a --
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: I second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. So no
further discussion, then. We have a motion that we
accept the service --
MS. BORDELOVE: Yeah, that he --
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: -- and the
evidence of service, that everything was proper and that
this subject, the citation was properly noticed for this
hearing.
` MS. BORDELOVE: M-hm (affirmative).
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All in favor, say
"aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
Okay. The motion carried.
All right. Anything else from counsel,
counsels? No? Okay.
MS. BORDELOVE: Not at this time.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. 74,
agenda item number 74. Any Board comments or future
agenda items that we'd like to have or have Kevin and
staff work on?
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BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Everything we've asked
for, Kevin and staff have provided. It's from the past.
So I'm really happy where we're going.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I would have to
concur. I mean we've given you stuff almost at every
meeting. And I don't have anything today, and neither
does any of the Board.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Quick question. Would
your letter be a part of this, to the Governor, about
the Board nominations?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: No. I did sign
the letter.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Okay.
MR. INGRAM: It wasn't an agendized item.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Yeah, and our
counsel said we didn't have to do a motion on it. So.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: That's right.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I wrote a letter.
I signed it. We'll send it. If I'm not --
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Our real counsel, or?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: The semi-counsel.
And if I'm not here next meeting, you'll know that the
letter didn't go well with the Governor.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: The letter went through.
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service, so, yeah, that it's his fault.
But, no, seriously, all joking aside, it's been
a good year. And we've accomplished a lot.
I, and, I think, I can speak for the other
members of the Board, I really like the quarterly
reporting out that we're getting. That really helps us
understand what's going on. So. All right.
All right. Any public comment?
Any public comment up north?
MS. KLEMME: None here.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Just for my own
curiosity, did anybody show up, up north?
MS. KLEMME: We have no one in the audience.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Oh, okay. All
right. Kevin wants to say something.
MR. INGRAM: Just as a kind of an overview and
a follow-up on what Mr. Hoban had explained to you, you
know, we don't really do any kind of a real presentation
to you on what Board staff is doing.
What we've done over the last couple years is
reached out to all of the security administrators in all
of the casinos, Las Vegas Metro, Henderson P.D., North
Las Vegas. And we've, I've gone out and done
presentations to each of these entities to let them know
who we are, what we do, and how we can help them in
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their environments.
Hakkasan Group is part of what they call the
zone meetings. And that's where all the security
individuals from the different properties come together
once a month. They invite us to attend. On occasions,
we do presentations. And other times, we're just kind
of rubbing elbows and sharing ideas and concerns with
them.
Hakkasan Group has really stepped up and taken
a very serious approach to unlicensed activity within
their nightclubs, as well as other entities that aren't
present today. And we've developed that rapport to
where they keep us informed, we keep them informed. We
work very closely with Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
Department, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, even the
FBI, on situations that we're investigating.
And when there's a large event, we always
attend, Lori and I always attend all of the planning
meetings, all the organization meetings, so that we
developed rapport and reputation with a lot of the large
event planners that come into town. And we work very
closely with them to try to cut down on the unlicensed
activity.
So we're doing a lot of outreach that you may
not be aware of, and it's returning, you know, dividends
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for us, with these relationships. Mr. Hoban and I
communicate -- I can't say it, but I can do it.
Exactly. He's rubbing off on me. Communicate
frequently. And we're pleased to have the partnership
with them and all the other entities here in the state.
I just want to put that on the record. Thank
you.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: I appreciate the
comments. And I appreciate the cooperation that we have
with the clubs on the Strip.
And I appreciate you being here today. I know
it takes a lot to come downtown and come to one of these
hearings. So.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: Did you work last
night?
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: You probably got
the night off because of this. All right.
All right. One further call for public
comment?
Seeing none, do you want to tell us when we're
coming back again for our meeting?
MR. INGRAM: We're coming back in December.
It'll be the 11th and the 12th unless we have any
last-minute changes. But I'll keep you posted on that.
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may be in a new location, right?
MR. INGRAM: We will be in a new location.
It'll be at the two Department of Employment, Training
and Rehabilitation locations. We've been there before
for a hearing. So it's the DETR over off of St. Louis
Avenue. But we'll get you all the proper information.
It will be at DETR in Carson City as well.
MS. IRIZARRY: Kevin, it's the 10th and 11th.
MR. INGRAM: 10th and 11th. I'm sorry. Lori,
thanks Lori. It's good to have her in with me.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: It's Tuesday and
Wednesday, right?
MR. INGRAM: We had to change it, yeah.
MS. IRIZARRY: It's a Tuesday and a Wednesday,
yes.
MR. INGRAM: In Las Vegas, we'll be at
St. Louis.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
Anything else? We are really dragging this out, and it
should be quick.
All right. I'll call for a motion to adjourn.
BOARD MEMBER NIXON: Second.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right.
BOARD MEMBER GRONAUER: I'll make the motion.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. We've
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got a couple motions, and we got one second. All in
favor of adjourning, say "aye."
(Board members said "aye.")
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: Any opposed?
MR. INGRAM: Thank you, Shannon.
ACTING BOARD CHAIRMAN FLYNN: All right. Thank
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MS. TAYLOR: Thank you all.
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REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
I, SHANNON L. TAYLOR, a Nevada Certified Court
Reporter, Nevada CCR #322, do hereby certify:
That I was present at the Legislative Counsel
Bureau, 401 South Carson Street, Room 3138, Carson City,
Nevada, on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, at 9:00 a.m.,
and on Thursday, September 12, 2019, at 9:00 a.m., and
took stenotype notes of a two-day meeting of the State
of Nevada Private Investigators Licensing Board;
That I thereafter transcribed the aforementioned
stenotype notes into typewriting as herein appears, and
that the within transcript, consisting of pages 1
through 287, is a full, true, and correct transcription
of said stenotype notes of both days of said meeting;
I further certify that I am not an attorney or
counsel for any of the parties, not a relative or
employee of any attorney or counsel connected with the
actions, nor financially interested in the actions.
DATED: At Carson City, Nevada, this 1st day of
November, 2019.
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SHANNON L. TAYLOR
Nevada CCR #322, RMR