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Posted:TueJul31,201221:37pmbydw300Ok,soIwasgoingtogettheGarminGSC10andGarminANT+USBstickandsignuptoTrainerRoad,butsinceI'dplannedonupgradingtoaGarmin500atsomepointIjustwentaheadandboughttheHR/Cadbundle(203onWigglewith10%vouchercode)sinceitworksoutcheaperthangettingtheGSC10andbuyingthe500andHRmonitorseparatelylateron.Stuffgetsdeliveredtomorrow!
So,perhapsanyonethatusesTRcouldposttheirsetupandtalkabouthowtheyuseit,whatprogramstheylikeandwhatresultsthey'regetting?IknowJGSIandT.M.H.N.E.T.areusersfromanotherthread.Ideterminedtogetaproperwinter'strainingthisyear.
Foranyonewhodoesn'tknowhere'sa brief video of what it does(90secs),andhere'sa longer one(17mins).
I'llstart..withmysetup..
Trainer:EliteCronoFluidElastogel(#95ontheirsupportedtrainerlist..EliteFluidAluAKAChronoFluidElastoGel)Receiver:GarminANT+USBLaptop:OldMacbook(requiresOSX10.6minimumforTR)ANT+SpeedCadenceSensor:GarminGSC10ANT+HRMonitor:Garmin(notsureofthemodelyet)
Willtrytodothe20minutetesttomorrow..
Posted:WedAug01,201209:36ambyJGSI
Morethanhappytoassist... UsingaTacxsartoriwithaTrainerroadsettingofitonresistancelevel4for'proxy'powerreadout.
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Windows7withtheGarminUSBstick/GSC10forspeedandcadenceandfromtodayaGarminHRM.
SoatthemomentfollowingaTRplanbasedon'novice'competitorwithaTSSaverageof331weeklyandjustover5hoursvolumeweekly.Ihaveonlyafewmoreracesleftonthecalendarsothishelpswithkeepingthingstickingovernicely.TogetabaseofFTP,IdidthetR'20minute'testalthoughittakesanhourtocompleteandwasntexactlypleasant.
ProgivesmuchmuchmorefocusinyourTurboworkoutswiththeinformationfeedback.ConwellthepowerreadoutisnotgoingtobeSRMstandard!
Posted:WedAug01,201210:06ambymzm70Justsignedupforthe1monthtrial,mysetup:KKR&RMacbookAir+ANT+USBstick+GSC10+Powertap
Firsttryoutthismorning,actuallyveryimpressed.What'salsoniceistheyhaveintegratedSufferfestvideos(youneedtoownthevideofirst).Onthesurfacethere'salargeportfolioofsessions,therearealsotrainingprogramsutilizingthesesessions.
Thesessionisalsouploadedtotheirwebsiteandallthedetailedtraininginformationisavailableonline.
Posted:WedAug01,201210:06ambyamaferangaUsingthatturbotrainertoestimatepowerisabitofajoke.IknowthatsinceIhaveoneandaproperpowermeter.IassumethatallthatTrainerRoaddoisgetholdofthemanufacturerspowerprofileandusethattoestimatepower?
FWIWhere'sspeed(topgraph)withconstantpower(apartfromthelastminuteorsoofeachintervalwherepowergoesupabit)withmyEliteSupercronoturbo:
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AndthesamewithaCycleopsFluid2:
Sowhilesometurboscangiveameaningfulpowerfigureusingspeed,theElitefluidtrainerisIMEnotoneofthose.You'dprobablybebettertouseRPEthanthehighlytemperaturedependentpowerfigureyou'llgetfromTrainerRoadforthatturbo.
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Posted:WedAug01,201210:28ambyJGSITrainerRoaddosay:"WegivethreewaystotrainatTrainerRoad.Power,VirtualPowerandheartrate.
PowerHandsdown,trainingwithapowermeteristhebestwaytopushyourselftothenextlevel.It'saccuracyissecondtonone.Ifyou'retrainingwithpower,200wattsis200watts.Itdoesn'tmatterifyourtired,atadifferentaltitudeorattheendofarace.Thelawsofphysicsdon'tchange.
Thedownsideisthatpowermetersstartatabout$700andgoupto$3000+.It'salargeinvestment.
VirtualPowerIfyoudon'thaveapowermeter,wethinkVirtualPoweristhenextbestthing.Ifyoukeepyoursetupconsistent,youcangetconsistentpowernumbers.Youstillgettheadvantagesofworkoutnumbersthataren'taffectedbyhowtiredyouare.
HeartRateHeartrateisstillgood.Somepeopleswearbyit.Wedon'tlikethatittakesawhileforyourhearttorespondtointervals.Ifyou'redoingshortintervals,it'sveryhardtogaugethecorrectoutput.
Anotherthingthat'stoughisheartratedrift.Asyoudomoreintervals,youravghrforeachintervalgoesup.Toseeanexample,justcheckoutourridefeed.You'llnoticethatsomeone'spoweroutputstaysconsistentfor4intervals,buteachintervalhasahighaverageheartrate.
Ifyouworkoutwithheartratenow,IsuggestyougiveVirtualPoweratest.Ithinkyou'lllikeit."
IhaveseencommentabouttheEliteandthewayitrespondsasnotbeing,let'ssay,thebesttoputitpolitely.Idon'thaveanissuewithmysimpleasmagsartori..easytokeepthingsconstant.
Posted:WedAug01,201210:36am
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bywhojanicanackerovI`vejustsignedupforthetrainerroad.Usingwindows7Garminant+stickPowertappro+
IthoughtIwouldgiveitgotomakethingsmoreinterestingontheturbo.Sofarsogoodit`sanicesystemItstillneedsalittlefinetuningbutIfIhavecomeacrossabugandmailedthemtheyhavegotstraightbacktome.tohelpwiththeproblem.Iftrainerroads"virtualtrainerpower"isonthehighsidecomparedtorealpowertap,SRMfiguresthiswouldn`tmatterasyouhavesomethingtoworkwithconsistentlyweekonweektomonitoryourprogression.AllinallI`mfindingitasgreattooltohelpwithmytraining.I`veonlybeenridingsincethe1stofJansoIneedallthehelpIcanget,tohelptakemymindofthepainthatridingbikesgivesus!!Ihopeallthatmakessenseaswritingisn`tmystrongpoint
Posted:WedAug01,201211:10ambydw300Don'tgetmewrong..Idon'texpectthata130turbowillhelpgiveaccuratepowerreadingscomparedtoaPowertaporSRM.I'mreallyjustlookingforsomethingtogivestructuredworkouts.I'mconsideringgettingmyhandsonaPowertapsometimeinthedistantfutureifIcanafforditandifIthinkitwillgiveafurtheredge.
Howmuchdoyouthinktheerrorinvolvedwillaffectresultsbetweenthesameworkoutonthesamesetup?Iassumethattheharderyouworkandthemoreheat,thelessresistanceyou'llhave?
Posted:WedAug01,201211:41ambyJGSIThemoreworkoutsyoudo,themoreyougetto'recognise'theeffortlevelsinvolved.Thenumbersaretheretokeepyourtrainingontrackratherthan'bragging'rights.
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Posted:WedAug01,201214:16pmbyT.M.H.N.E.TNeitherofyourlinkswork!
NotaTRuseryet!BeenwaitingforsomeOTtogointomywagesthenI'mofftoawellknownauctionsite.TBHIdon'tthinkmyturboisevenlistedbutwhatmattersisthingsstayconstant.Makeslittledifferencetomeifthereadingsareout,aslongastheygoup.
IwasactuallyconsideringatotalupgradetoGarmin500orBrytonRider50T,untilIchanceduponaYTvidthatshowshowtoswaptheBrytonsensorbetweenspeedorcadence.IthinkI'dmuchratherhavethemboth!
Posted:WedAug01,201214:33pmbydw300
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:Neitherofyourlinkswork!
NotaTRuseryet!BeenwaitingforsomeOTtogointomywagesthenI'mofftoawellknownauctionsite.TBHIdon'tthinkmyturboisevenlistedbutwhatmattersisthingsstayconstant.Makeslittledifferencetomeifthereadingsareout,aslongastheygoup.
IwasactuallyconsideringatotalupgradetoGarmin500orBrytonRider50T,untilIchanceduponaYTvidthatshowshowtoswaptheBrytonsensorbetweenspeedorcadence.IthinkI'dmuchratherhavethemboth!
Linksfixed.One'sthevideoyoupreviouslylinkedmeto.
ApparentlymypackagecheckedintoCitylinkat1506..hopefullyit'llbedeliveredtodaysinceI'vestayedinalldaybasedontheirpredicteddeliverydate.
Posted:WedAug01,201215:03pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
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Suunto Movestick Mini
AlsoworkswithGarminAgentandTRhttp://www.dcrainmaker.com/2012/02/much ... -your.html
Posted:WedAug01,201219:12pmbydeanflyerUsingtrainerroadwithLemondRevolution,GarminGSC10,BontragerANT+speedsensorandGarminANT+USBstick.
UsingittorecoverfromashoulderinjuryandkeepfituntilIcangetbackoutontheroad.
Seemsgoodsofar,havealsoboughtsomeofthesufferfestvideos.
Posted:WedAug01,201219:34pmbyGarryboyBeenusingtrainerroadforaboutamonthandreallylikeit.
Imusingitwith
CyclopsjetfluidproGarmin500Garmingsc10GarminhrmDellmininetbookGarminusbstickSufferfestvids
IfindIpushmyselfmoreandsticktothestructureoftheworkout.PreviouslyIwouldgethunguponmyoverallaveragemph,ratherthanensuringtheintervalswereintenseenough.
WillbeusingitmorethanI'dpreferinnextcoupleofweeksasmyonlyroadworthybikeisknack'd(sramrivalrearshifterfailed).
Posted:ThuAug02,201210:33am
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byGiantMikeIsTRadownloadordoyouhavetobeonlinetouseit?
Posted:ThuAug02,201210:40ambyT.M.H.N.E.T
GiantMikewrote:IsTRadownloadordoyouhavetobeonlinetouseit?
Download+10$amonthsubscription
Posted:ThuAug02,201210:56ambyJGSIAndwhenyouinstalltheapplicationonpc/mac,itcanbeusedofflineasitstoresalocaldatabasewiththevariousworkoutsandsynchuplater.
Posted:ThuAug02,201212:17pmbypoynedexteratthispointihavetodeclaremyhand.
atnostagedoiunderstandthisthread.i'maluditeandrideabicycle.
andforthatreason......i'mout.....
Posted:ThuAug02,201218:22pmbywhojanicanackerovSoDW300haveyouhadarideonTRyet?
WhatsallyournamesONTRsoIcancheckyourridesout?
Posted:FriAug03,201201:16am
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bydw300Ha,yeh,IjustdidmyfirstTRride..
Iwentoutabout1930foraride,andpuncturedafter16miles,lessthan5minswalkfromhome,soIjustwalkeditin.ThenIwatchedabitoftheOlympicsandjumpedonthetrainerafterI'dchangedmytube.
Ididthe'20MinuteTest'ataboutmidnight.IguessedmyFTPtobeabout170(lol,yesI'malightweight)basedonStrava'sestimationforontheroadTTefforts,butputin160asIwasfeelinglazyanddidn'twanttohurttoomuch.Ialsofigureditdidn'treallymatteratthispointsincethetestisforcalculationFTPanyway.
Jumpedon,didthefirsthalfhourandthoughtitfeltaboutright,maybealittleeasy.Itwaslookingformetosustain170Wforthe20mins,butItriedtoholditaround190tostartwithandgraduallyletitslide.Averaged182Wforthe20mins.
Afewthoughtswentthroughmyheadduringthetest..
1.Halfwaythroughthe20minutepartihadapainrightinmyleftkneecap.I'vehaditbeforeonceortwice,butaslongasitdoesn'tgettoosoreIjustworkthroughit,whichIdid.
2.Ihadanotherpaininatendonbehindmyrightknee.I'vehadthatalottoo,usuallywhenIdon'tgetabreakfrompedallingforalongtime.Probablyjustabitoftendinitis.
2b.MyHRdidn'tgoabove170.Mymaxisabout185188,andIcansustain180+ontheroadforanumberofminutes.ButonthetrainerIjustcouldn'tpushitharder,notbecauseofheartorlunglimitations,butbecausemylegshurt.
3.I'mgoingtoturnthe'pedaltostart'functionoffsothatIcantakebreaksfrompedallingduringtherestperiods,ifIstarttohurt.
4.Myar$ereallyhurt!
Soooo..eventhoughIdoabout90milesaweek,plusacoupleoflighttrainersessions,Iwascompletelyunpreparedforatoughtrainersession.Butbeingabletostanduporstoppedallingshouldseethoseache'sandpainsright.
ButIthinkthishashighlightedaweakness.Igetbybyspinningeverywhere.WhenI'moutand
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there'saheadwindIsimplyslowdownifI'msolo.IwheelsuckifI'minagroup!Ilikeputtingmyeffortinonclimbsinstead.Ridingthetrainerinthatbigagearfeelslikeridingintoastiffheadwind..feelsmoreastrainonmylegsthanmyfitness.
Hasavoidingpushingthebiggearsbeentomydetriment?Iamgettingfaster,butamIlimitingmyprogress?IusuallyavoidittoreducerecoverytimessoIcangetoutmore.
Isthereadifferencebetweengeneratingxamountofpowerspinningupasteepclimb,comparedtochurningalongontheflat?Iknowthatsomepeoplesaythatthatbiggeartrainingisuseless,andyou'llgofurtherbyspinning.ButI'mhavingsecondthoughts.
Anyadvice?
PS.I'mdw300onTR.
Posted:FriAug03,201204:16ambyEyoreroxSomemorediscussionIcouldnotfindtheTacxsatorisonTrainerRoadhttp://forums.roadbikereview.com/genera ... 70667.html
Posted:FriAug03,201207:43am
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byJGSI
Eyoreroxwrote:SomemorediscussionIcouldnotfindtheTacxsatorisonTrainerRoadhttp://forums.roadbikereview.com/genera ... 70667.html
InyourTrainerRoadprofilepageyoujustchoosetheTurboortraineryouhave...Sartoriisthereinthelist
The4referstotheresistancesettingyouwanttousefrom1to10.On4,itisenoughformetousethegearingonthebiketomimicbestthe'roadfeel'
Themainissuewithlongerturbosessionsisthetendencytostayrootedin1positionallthetime..thisleadstomegadiscomfort..formeanythingover60minutesisabitofachallenge...youseeguysdoingthe3hourworkoutsandwondering..notforme.ThemostrecommendedtrainerappearstotheKurtKinetic..howeverthatisonepriceytrainer!
Posted:FriAug03,201208:45ambyphy2sll2
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So,hasanyonedoneoneormoreoftheir'plans'?
Iliketheideaofintegrationwithsufferfest,butwithoutthatsortofmotivation,Ican'timaginemyselfbashingoutthreeworkoutsaweekonthetrainer.
Posted:FriAug03,201211:24ambywhojanicanackerov
dw300wrote:Ha,yeh,IjustdidmyfirstTRride..
Iwentoutabout1930foraride,andpuncturedafter16miles,lessthan5minswalkfromhome,soIjustwalkeditin.ThenIwatchedabitoftheOlympicsandjumpedonthetrainerafterI'dchangedmytube.
Ididthe'20MinuteTest'ataboutmidnight.IguessedmyFTPtobeabout170(lol,yesI'malightweight)basedonStrava'sestimationforontheroadTTefforts,butputin160asIwasfeelinglazyanddidn'twanttohurttoomuch.Ialsofigureditdidn'treallymatteratthispointsincethetestisforcalculationFTPanyway.
Jumpedon,didthefirsthalfhourandthoughtitfeltaboutright,maybealittleeasy.Itwaslookingformetosustain170Wforthe20mins,butItriedtoholditaround190tostartwithandgraduallyletitslide.Averaged182Wforthe20mins.
Afewthoughtswentthroughmyheadduringthetest..
1.Halfwaythroughthe20minutepartihadapainrightinmyleftkneecap.I'vehaditbeforeonceortwice,butaslongasitdoesn'tgettoosoreIjustworkthroughit,whichIdid.
2.Ihadanotherpaininatendonbehindmyrightknee.I'vehadthatalottoo,usuallywhenIdon'tgetabreakfrompedallingforalongtime.Probablyjustabitoftendinitis.
2b.MyHRdidn'tgoabove170.Mymaxisabout185188,andIcansustain180+ontheroadforanumberofminutes.ButonthetrainerIjustcouldn'tpushitharder,notbecauseofheartorlunglimitations,butbecausemylegshurt.
3.I'mgoingtoturnthe'pedaltostart'functionoffsothatIcantakebreaksfrompedallingduringtherestperiods,ifIstarttohurt.
4.Myar$ereallyhurt!
Soooo..eventhoughIdoabout90milesaweek,plusacoupleoflighttrainer
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sessions,Iwascompletelyunpreparedforatoughtrainersession.Butbeingabletostanduporstoppedallingshouldseethoseache'sandpainsright.
ButIthinkthishashighlightedaweakness.Igetbybyspinningeverywhere.WhenI'moutandthere'saheadwindIsimplyslowdownifI'msolo.IwheelsuckifI'minagroup!Ilikeputtingmyeffortinonclimbsinstead.Ridingthetrainerinthatbigagearfeelslikeridingintoastiffheadwind..feelsmoreastrainonmylegsthanmyfitness.
Hasavoidingpushingthebiggearsbeentomydetriment?Iamgettingfaster,butamIlimitingmyprogress?IusuallyavoidittoreducerecoverytimessoIcangetoutmore.
Isthereadifferencebetweengeneratingxamountofpowerspinningupasteepclimb,comparedtochurningalongontheflat?Iknowthatsomepeoplesaythatthatbiggeartrainingisuseless,andyou'llgofurtherbyspinning.ButI'mhavingsecondthoughts.
Anyadvice?
PS.I'mdw300onTR.
Advicewouldbe,Startateliminatingridingpaingettingyourbikefitspoton.Youmayhavealreadydoneallthisbutmaybeyoucouldreworkthingsagain.Makesurecleatsonshoeshavetheballsofyourfeetcentraltopeddleaxle.Feelyourkneecapandjustbelowitontheoutersideofthekneecapisabonethatsticksoutslightlytakeapieceofstringwithaweightonthebottomandtheirshouldbeastraightlinefromthatbonetothepedalaxle.Getsomeoneelsetocheckitwhilstyoursatproperlyonyourbike.Thisshouldthenruleoutkneepains.Yourrightaboutsittingatthebackofthepackonclubrunsontheflatgetupfrontanddosomeworkintothewind.Itwillmakeyoustrong!!Biggearworkwillmakeyourlegsstronger.Ifyoukeeptrainingthesamewaythenyouwillkeepwiththesameresultsyouneedtomixthingsuptogetstronger.Istronglyrecommendthe20minutepoweracceleratorplanonTR...ifyoufollowittotheTyouwillprogresstothenextlevel.I`mPendlePunisheronTR
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Posted:FriAug03,201214:08pmbydw300
whojanicanackerovwrote:Advicewouldbe,Startateliminatingridingpaingettingyourbikefitspoton.Youmayhavealreadydoneallthisbutmaybeyoucouldreworkthingsagain.Makesurecleatsonshoeshavetheballsofyourfeetcentraltopeddleaxle.Feelyourkneecapandjustbelowitontheoutersideofthekneecapisabonethatsticksoutslightlytakeapieceofstringwithaweightonthebottomandtheirshouldbeastraightlinefromthatbonetothepedalaxle.Getsomeoneelsetocheckitwhilstyoursatproperlyonyourbike.Thisshouldthenruleoutkneepains.Yourrightaboutsittingatthebackofthepackonclubrunsontheflatgetupfrontanddosomeworkintothewind.Itwillmakeyoustrong!!Biggearworkwillmakeyourlegsstronger.Ifyoukeeptrainingthesamewaythenyouwillkeepwiththesameresultsyouneedtomixthingsuptogetstronger.Istronglyrecommendthe20minutepoweracceleratorplanonTR...ifyoufollowittotheTyouwillprogresstothenextlevel.I`mPendlePunisheronTR
Thanksfortheadvice,i'llgivethosethingsatry.It'llbeinterestingtotrysomethingdifferentandseewhatperformancedifferenceitmakes.
Asfarassetupgoes,irecentlyboughtanewinlineseatposttogetmefurtherforward,howeverIthinkIcouldprobablygoforwardmore.IcouldprobablydowithshortercranksIreckon.Imightchangethemwhenmychainringneedschangednext.Canyougetaseatpostwithforwardoffset?
Canyounot'follow'peopleonTR?
Posted:FriAug03,201214:11pmbydw300
phy2sll2wrote:So,hasanyonedoneoneormoreoftheir'plans'?
Iliketheideaofintegrationwithsufferfest,butwithoutthatsortofmotivation,Ican'timaginemyselfbashingoutthreeworkoutsaweekonthetrainer.
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I'dkindaliketomaybe3roadridesaweekandmaybe12trainersessionsperweekduringthesummer.SoI'mlookingforonethatmightletmedothat.I'venotreadtheiradviceoncombiningroadandtrainerworkyet.
Posted:FriAug03,201215:49pmbywhojanicanackerovDw300Ivebeentrainingsince1stjanthisyearandIhavefoundthattheturbohasbeenthekeyfactorinhelPingdevelopmyftp.ithinkmostcoacheshaveyoudoingturboworkasontheroadtherearevariables.ontheturboconditionsdon'tchangeandyoucan'tstoppedallingoritshowsintheresults.Twostructuredturbosessionsaweekwillgiveyouaverygoodreturninfitness.
Posted:FriAug03,201221:09pmbyNatePearson
dw300wrote:Canyounot'follow'peopleonTR?
NatefromTrainerRoadhere.Youcan'tfollowpeopleonTrainerRoad,butthatsoundsreally
cool! Weshoulddothat .
Wouldyouwantnoticesoftheirridessenttoyou?Ormorelikea"buddy"listwhereyoucanseearidefeedofallofthepeopleyoufollow?I'mthinkingthelatter.
Posted:FriAug03,201221:11pmbyNatePearson
GiantMikewrote:IsTRadownloadordoyouhavetobeonlinetouseit?
HeyMike,tobemorespecificyoujusthavetohavethesoftwareconnecttotheinternetonce
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amonthtovalidatelicense.Besidesthat,youcandoallofyourworkoutswithoutaninternetconnection.
Posted:FriAug03,201222:42pmbywhojanicanackerov
NatePearsonwrote:
dw300wrote:Canyounot'follow'peopleonTR?
NatefromTrainerRoadhere.Youcan'tfollowpeopleonTrainerRoad,butthat
soundsreallycool! Weshoulddothat .
Wouldyouwantnoticesoftheirridessenttoyou?Ormorelikea"buddy"listwhereyoucanseearidefeedofallofthepeopleyoufollow?I'mthinkingthelatter.
Natethatsoundslikeaplantome.Abuddylistandnotificationofrideswouldbefantastic!!YoualsoneedtoworkontheridespagebecauseIcannotaccesspage2orbeyond.ViewingothermembersridesisverymotivationalThebugneedssortingASAPthanks.
Posted:FriAug03,201223:10pmbymikey2341Ican'twaittohaveagoonthisassoonasIgetaturbo,wouldthecycleopsjelfluidprobeagoodplacetostart?
Posted:FriAug03,201223:14pmbydw300
NatePearsonwrote:
dw300wrote:Canyounot'follow'peopleonTR?
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NatefromTrainerRoadhere.Youcan'tfollowpeopleonTrainerRoad,butthat
soundsreallycool! Weshoulddothat .
Wouldyouwantnoticesoftheirridessenttoyou?Ormorelikea"buddy"listwhereyoucanseearidefeedofallofthepeopleyoufollow?I'mthinkingthelatter.
Nate..Ilikethebuddylistandthenaridefeed.Aswithmostthingsonthe'netorwithapps,thelessclickspeoplehavetodo,thebetter.Eitherhaveafeedasthedefaultscreenafterlogin,orperhapshavea'Social'tabintheuserspage.
Asahugestatsgeek,I'dlovetoseecomparativetimesandeffortspulledoutofadatabaseofpeoplematchingyourage,physicalattributesandequipment.
Iknowyou'reallabouttraining,butbeingabletouploadridedataontheflysomehow,and
haveliveraceswhereyouchallengeyourbuddiescouldturnthisintoaPS3beater!
Posted:SatAug04,201206:20ambywhojanicanackerov
mikey2341wrote:Ican'twaittohaveagoonthisassoonasIgetaturbo,wouldthecycleopsjelfluidprobeagoodplacetostart?
YES
Posted:SatAug04,201207:23ambyJGSI
NatePearsonwrote:
dw300wrote:Canyounot'follow'peopleonTR?
NatefromTrainerRoadhere.Youcan'tfollowpeopleonTrainerRoad,butthat
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soundsreallycool! Weshoulddothat .
Wouldyouwantnoticesoftheirridessenttoyou?Ormorelikea"buddy"listwhereyoucanseearidefeedofallofthepeopleyoufollow?I'mthinkingthelatter.
It'sgreattoseeasoftwaredevelopersuchakeeninterestintheirproduct!Welcomeindeed!
Posted:MonAug06,201215:14pmbyT.M.H.N.E.TAspostedearlierIfoundwiththehelpofRayofdcrainmakerblog,aslightlycheaperwaytogoANT+
GarminGSC1043
GarminANT+USBStick31
Or
SuuntoMovestickUSBANT+29.99
WahooSpeed/Cadence31.62
^Purchasingthesewhenmypayclears andmyTRusernameisTrihardni
GarminANT+HRM28.54(Optional)
Posted:TueAug07,201210:03ambywhojanicanackerov
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THMNETyourusernameisntshowinganythingintheridesPage?DW300it`sbeen5dayssinceyourlastrideonTRcomeonladnopainnogainhehe.
Posted:TueAug07,201210:17ambyJGSIIfhe'slikeme,Sunday'srideneeded48hoursrecovery!Tipoftheweek,ifyouuseSufferfestanddownloadHellhathnoFuryanduseit,makesureyouhaveplentyinthetank.IhaveusedSufferfestsforoverayearandthisisprobablythehardestIhavetrainedto.itisessentially2xFTPtestsonthebounceandthensomemore.
Posted:TueAug07,201210:49ambyT.M.H.N.E.THaventusedityet,waitingonthehardware
Posted:TueAug07,201211:32ambydw300
whojanicanackerovwrote:THMNETyourusernameisntshowinganythingintheridesPage?DW300it`sbeen5dayssinceyourlastrideonTRcomeonladnopainnogainhehe.
Lol..IdidgetoutontheroadonSaturdayandSunday.Ididarecoverysessionlastnighttoseewhatthatfeltlike.MylegshurttodayandI'mnotsurewhetherit'scumulativefatigueorDOMSfromSunday.
DoyouguyscountyourTSS?I'mon460sinceThursday(5days).I'mtryingtoworkouthowmanyIcandoinaweekandrecoverok.Thenworkin4weekblocksatgraduallyincreasingpercentages(upto100ormaybe105).I'mthinkingthatmightworkslightlybetterthanjusthoursormiles.
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Posted:TueAug07,201213:41pmbywhojanicanackerovDwIhaveaPowertapandonSaturdaysclubruntheTSS369YesterdayItrainedonTRintheafternoonThenat530wentfora80kbikerideupinthemtheirhills!!Yesmylegsweresorebeforetheeveningridebutyou'llbesurprisedwhatthebodycanwithstand.Ireadapostawhileagobysbezzaonthisforumabouttrainingwithtiredlegsandhowyoucanovercomeitandreaptherewards.SowhenyouthinkyoudoneenoughdoaboutmoreLol.EvenGrahamObreesaidsomethinglikethatonthecyclingshowtheotherweek.MaybeyoucouldfindatempoorsweetspotrideonTRforwhenyoudon'tfeelasstrong??Painistemporyglorylastsforever!!!!!Andwhoevercomeupwiththatsayinglied!!Itneverstops!!!!
Posted:TueAug07,201216:24pmbydw300
whojanicanackerovwrote:DwIhaveaPowertapandonSaturdaysclubruntheTSS369YesterdayItrainedonTRintheafternoonThenat530wentfora80kbikerideupinthemtheirhills!!Yesmylegsweresorebeforetheeveningridebutyou'llbesurprisedwhatthebodycanwithstand.Ireadapostawhileagobysbezzaonthisforumabouttrainingwithtiredlegsandhowyoucanovercomeitandreaptherewards.SowhenyouthinkyoudoneenoughdoaboutmoreLol.EvenGrahamObreesaidsomethinglikethatonthecyclingshowtheotherweek.MaybeyoucouldfindatempoorsweetspotrideonTRforwhenyoudon'tfeelasstrong??Painistemporyglorylastsforever!!!!!Andwhoevercomeupwiththatsayinglied!!Itneverstops!!!!
Excellent,thisisexactlywhatIwanttobehearing.IthinkthegreatthingaboutStravaandTRandthelikeisthatyouseeexactlyhowlittleeffortyouareputtingincomparedtosome
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people!
IknowTSScapacityisgoingtovaryslightlyfrompersontopersondependinghowlongthey'vebeenriding,physicalfactors,ageetc.ButI'mslightlyunclearastowhytheTSSscoresperweekforthetrainingplansseemprettylow.Iknowthatplentyofpeoplewillgetintothe200,300or400sforonerideregularly,soI'dassumethetrainingplanswouldhavehadhigherTSS.Iguessit'sbecausemostsessionsareinthe12hourrangeandnota6+hourweekendramble?
Doyouhaveanysuggestionsfortrainingwithamorepowerfulrider?MyFTPis172..ithinkthat'sreasonablyaccurate,buttheguyIridewithmostlyisaround230,heweighsabout30lbsmore.IfeellikeI'montherivetjustkeepingupwithhimridinghissweetspot.Iusuallytryanddraghimintothehillsasmuchaspossible,eventhoughhispowertoweightisstillbetter,atleastIcanseehiminthedistanceforlonger!
Posted:TueAug07,201218:29pmbywhojanicanackerovWellwhenIfirsteverdidanFTPtestitwasroughly170.1stJanthisyearI`mnearly40.InotbraggingI`mjustsayingwithworkitwillcomebetter.Iusedacyclingcoachfollowingastricttrainingplan.Theplanstartedwithaturboride(FTPraising)TuesdayandThursday,bigroadrideSaturdayandrecoveryonSunday.Consistenttrainingwilldeliverconsistentresultsiswhatmycoachtellsme.Sodothe20minuteplanontrainerroad.Ordoaslightlymodifiedone.TuesdayandThursdayusingridesfromthe20minuteplanbecausetheseridesaredesignedto
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raiseyourFTP.Stillgooutontheroadwithyourfriendsandripitup!!RemembertheseFTPraisingrideshurtlikehellregardlessofyourFTPsoyournotonyourownwherepainisconcerned.JustpushthroughthepainusingMusicandbeaggressivewithyourthoughtsandimaginationnotgivingintothepaininyourlegs.IwillbecheckingyourridesoutonTRandIbetifyourconsistentyoucanhit200in6weeks.Howoldareyou?IdohopeI`mnotcomingacrossasacleverar$eorawannabecoachI`mjusttryingtoshare
whathavingaCoachhasdoneforme. IaintnoBradleyWigginseventhoughIdo
havethesideburnshaha.
P`sIleftyouacommentonyourtodaysrideonTR
Posted:TueAug07,201222:38pmbydw300IjusthadalookatmyfirstStravaride..http://app.strava.com/rides/9451477
Andcomparedittomymostrecent..http://app.strava.com/rides/16625877
I'mupabout25Wfora3hrridein11weeks.Idon'tknowhowthatwouldequatetomyFTP..Youcanalsoseethatmyshorttermpower15minsisupsignificantly.I'mcurrentlyat2.5FTP/kg
Butyeh,I'llhavealookatthepowerbuildingworkouts.I'm33bytheway.I'mactuallynotworkingatthemomentduetoredundancy,soIhavealotoftimetotrain,Ijustneedtotryandbalanceitwithrideswithmyfriends.Ialsodon'tmindthefreeadviceforthesame
reason.
Posted:WedAug08,201206:55ambywhojanicanackerovI`vecheckedyourStravaandyourcertainlyimproving.I`malsofollowingyounowOnStrava.
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Posted:WedAug08,201210:59ambyT.M.H.N.E.TJustneedCad/SpeedsensorandHRMtoarrive!LovehowsmalltheSuuntoMovestickis!
Posted:WedAug08,201213:02pmbyDubcatGuysbitofasillyquestionherebutcaniuseTRonmymountainbike?IhaveacheapebaywheelwithatrainertyrewhichiusewhenmountingmyMTBonmyTACXturbotrainer.
IfItrainonmyMTBwillthishavegoodbenefitsforwhenIridearoadbike?Idon'twanttoputmyroadbikeontheturbotrainer.
Thanks.Dub.
Posted:WedAug08,201213:03pmbyT.M.H.N.E.TAslongasthetyrerollssmoothandyouhaveminimumofANT+speed/cadencesensorthenyes,thebiketypereallyisn'trelevant.
Posted:WedAug08,201213:12pmbyDubcatThanksitisthetacxtyreanddefinitelyrollssmooth.NowIneedtodecidewhetherIbuytheGSC10+GarminANT+stickorbuyanedge500bundle.Ialreadyhaveaforerunner210IREALLYwishIhadjustgotthe910XTnow.Ohwell.
Posted:WedAug08,201213:25pmbywhojanicanackerov
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T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:JustneedCad/SpeedsensorandHRMtoarrive!LovehowsmalltheSuuntoMovestickis!
WOWdon`tputthatdownyou`llloseit!SosmallcomparedtoGarminstick
Posted:WedAug08,201215:05pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
whojanicanackerovwrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:JustneedCad/SpeedsensorandHRMtoarrive!LovehowsmalltheSuuntoMovestickis!
WOWdon`tputthatdownyou`llloseit!SosmallcomparedtoGarminstick
IpluggeditinandletthegenericUSBANT+driversinstall.It'ssaferinaportthanlyingonmydesklol!
Posted:WedAug08,201221:47pmbydw300Wow,that'satinyUSBstump.Mindoutitdoesntdisappearinsideyourcomputer!
I'llfollowyoutoowhojan,cheers.
MyusualcycingbuddyisheadingtoSwitzerlandforsomehighaltitudetrainingnextTuesday.Therestofhisfamilyseemtobeundertheimpressionthatit'saholiday!Butanyway..I'mhopingdesperatelyforsomehighlylocalisedraininmyareaforthatweeksoIcandosomestructuredtrainingwithTR,andseewhereI'mat.
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Gonareallypushmybuddywhenhegetsbackonour20minuteTT,andseehowbeingintheAlpsforaweekhelpshim.
Posted:ThuAug09,201206:48ambywhojanicanackerovSoundslikeyourbuddywillbegoingwellwhenhecomeshomewiththehighaltitudestuff!!!WorkhardonTRwhilehe`sawayotherwisehewillbedroppingyouLOL.YeahfollowmeonStrava.
Posted:ThuAug09,201211:44ambyT.M.H.N.E.THardwaresarrived,testdatatofollow.
Fittedandfunctioningperfectly!
Posted:ThuAug09,201213:56pmbydw300
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:Hardwaresarrived,testdatatofollow.
Fittedandfunctioningperfectly!
Caneit!
Posted:ThuAug09,201214:12pmbydanowat
dw300wrote:
whojanicanackerovwrote:DwIhaveaPowertapandonSaturdaysclubruntheTSS369
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YesterdayItrainedonTRintheafternoonThenat530wentfora80kbikerideupinthemtheirhills!!Yesmylegsweresorebeforetheeveningridebutyou'llbesurprisedwhatthebodycanwithstand.Ireadapostawhileagobysbezzaonthisforumabouttrainingwithtiredlegsandhowyoucanovercomeitandreaptherewards.SowhenyouthinkyoudoneenoughdoaboutmoreLol.EvenGrahamObreesaidsomethinglikethatonthecyclingshowtheotherweek.MaybeyoucouldfindatempoorsweetspotrideonTRforwhenyoudon'tfeelasstrong??Painistemporyglorylastsforever!!!!!Andwhoevercomeupwiththatsayinglied!!Itneverstops!!!!
Excellent,thisisexactlywhatIwanttobehearing.IthinkthegreatthingaboutStravaandTRandthelikeisthatyouseeexactlyhowlittleeffortyouareputtingincomparedtosomepeople!
IknowTSScapacityisgoingtovaryslightlyfrompersontopersondependinghowlongthey'vebeenriding,physicalfactors,ageetc.ButI'mslightlyunclearastowhytheTSSscoresperweekforthetrainingplansseemprettylow.Iknowthatplentyofpeoplewillgetintothe200,300or400sforonerideregularly,soI'dassumethetrainingplanswouldhavehadhigherTSS.Iguessit'sbecausemostsessionsareinthe12hourrangeandnota6+hourweekendramble?
Doyouhaveanysuggestionsfortrainingwithamorepowerfulrider?MyFTPis172..ithinkthat'sreasonablyaccurate,buttheguyIridewithmostlyisaround230,heweighsabout30lbsmore.IfeellikeI'montherivetjustkeepingupwithhimridinghissweetspot.Iusuallytryanddraghimintothehillsasmuchaspossible,eventhoughhispowertoweightisstillbetter,atleastIcanseehiminthedistanceforlonger!
TSSisagoodindicatorofjusthowfarthepowermeasurementsareout,"peopleareregularlyriding400TSS"?,really,that'saHECKofaride,myTSSfora12hrTTis"only"530TSS.Rememberthat100TSSisanhouratthreshold(orFTP),soit'sanhourprettymuchashardasyoucan.......FTPisn'tsomethingyoucanguess,itiswhatitis,allthis"virtualpower"isjustarandomnumbergenerator.
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Posted:ThuAug09,201214:59pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:Hardwaresarrived,testdatatofollow.
Fittedandfunctioningperfectly!
Caneit!
http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/71958
NoHRMyetbutmyaveragewas119onmycateye
Trainer:EliteVolareMagReceiver:SuuntoMovestickMiniDesktoppc:4yroldselfbuild.2.4quadcore4gb1gbvideoANT+SpeedCadenceSensor:WahooFitnessspeed/cadence(thisonecanactuallybelengthenedtoprovidecadenceonrecumbentbikeslol)ANT+HRMonitor:Garminsomething,monitorisbundledwiththeForerunner405butANT+still
Posted:ThuAug09,201215:20pmbyJGSI
danowatwrote:TSSisagoodindicatorofjusthowfarthepowermeasurementsareout,"peopleareregularlyriding400TSS"?,really,that'saHECKofaride,myTSSfora12hrTTis"only"530TSS.Rememberthat100TSSisanhouratthreshold(orFTP),soit'sanhourprettymuchashardasyoucan.......
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FTPisn'tsomethingyoucanguess,itiswhatitis,allthis"virtualpower"isjustarandomnumbergenerator.
Ireckonmyowntssscores,calibratedfromusingTRandthisaswellfromTrainingPeaks
areprettyspoton.NowaywouldIthinkaboutestimatingevenaraceattsslevelsyouhavepointedto.My75milerinStaffs/Derbyhilswasonlyjustover200Ireckon.Peopleareprobablygoingabitdaftwithbiggertssvalues.
Posted:ThuAug09,201215:28pmbywhojanicanackerovDanowatIdon`tquiteunderstandwhatyoursayinghereaboutsomepeopleclaiming400TSSrides.SomeoftheSaturdayclubrunsIhavedonehaveaTSSof450+IuseapowertaphaveacoachandcanproveitthroughTrainingpeaks.IfIhavemisunderstoodyouthenIAPOLOGISEinadvanceLOL.IfIhave`ntandyourdirectingthatclaimatmethenIbetyou1000!!Icanproveit!!450+TSSonclubrunsonsomesaturdays.
Posted:ThuAug09,201217:22pmbydw300
danowatwrote:TSSisagoodindicatorofjusthowfarthepowermeasurementsareout,"peopleareregularlyriding400TSS"?,really,that'saHECKofaride,myTSSfor
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a12hrTTis"only"530TSS.Rememberthat100TSSisanhouratthreshold(orFTP),soit'sanhourprettymuchashardasyoucan.......FTPisn'tsomethingyoucanguess,itiswhatitis,allthis"virtualpower"isjustarandomnumbergenerator.
HispowertaptoldhimthathisSundayclubridewasintheregionof370..hewasn'ttalkingaboutTR.PlentyofSundayridesare46hoursbrokenintotwohalvesgoing8085%FTP,Idon'tseewhy400wouldbesounattainable.
Ican'timagineridingmybikefor12hours..i'dimagineitwouldbeanfairlylowintensityrideforthemostpart..it'sahugeeconomydrive.Ipresumeit'sdoneonaTTbiketoo,meaningyougofasterwithlesspower.
Posted:ThuAug09,201218:02pmbydanowatMypointis,overatedTSSisagoodsignofincorrectFTP,tworidesof200TSSdon'tadduptoa
400TSSride
Howlongarethese450TSSrides?,asthatisa4.5hrrideatthreshold,linktotheride?,I'dbeinterestedtoseeit.
12hrTTwasriddenatthetopendofZ2,withthefinal2hr'satthelowendofZ3,asforfasterwithlesspower,poweriswhatitis,I'dhaveriddentheexactsamepowerifIwereonaroadbike.
Posted:ThuAug09,201219:07pmbydw300HasanyoneusingtrainerroadthathasapowermeterriddenusingvirtualpoweronTRandpowerontheirbikecomputertocheckthedifferencesimultaneously?
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Posted:ThuAug09,201220:21pmbywhojanicanackerovMY470TSSridewas100milesthattook6hrsintheyorkshirenationalparkwherehillsarehillsandthesheeparenervousHAHA.Lastweekendsclubrunwas85milesTSS367yorkshiredalesagainbutasofterrunwithlessspeedbumpsprettygoodavgspeedthoughlol.
Posted:ThuAug09,201220:28pmbywhojanicanackerovDWIcouldtrythatoutifIfindthetime.I`msureIhavereadsomewherethatTRvirtualpowerisslightlyoverrealpowerfigures.Thisshouldnotbeaproblembecauseyouaretrainingagainst"whatyouwereyesterday"andnotthefigureofsomeoneelsewho`srideyourlookingat.consistencyisallyouneedjustmakesurethetyrepressureisthesameeachrideandyou`vecrackedit.
Posted:ThuAug09,201220:53pmbyJGSI
whojanicanackerovwrote:DWIcouldtrythatoutifIfindthetime.I`msureIhavereadsomewherethatTRvirtualpowerisslightlyoverrealpowerfigures.Thisshouldnotbeaproblembecauseyouaretrainingagainst"whatyouwereyesterday"
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andnotthefigureofsomeoneelsewho`srideyourlookingat.consistencyisallyouneedjustmakesurethetyrepressureisthesameeachrideandyou`vecrackedit.
Areyoustillworkingon170ftp?Mytssscorelastweekwasnearly600,andIgenuinelyneeded2fullrestdaysbeforefeelinggoodagain.Thisweekhaveclockedup200havealongroadsessionplannedtomorrwanotherinnerringridetokeeptheintensitypurposelylow.FollowingtheoneofthewhatIcall'tickover'plansoffTR,theweeklyaverageshouldbe330orthereabouts.Itfeelsjustright.
Posted:ThuAug09,201221:00pmbydw300
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/71958
NoHRMyetbutmyaveragewas119onmycateye
Trainer:EliteVolareMagReceiver:SuuntoMovestickMiniDesktoppc:4yroldselfbuild.2.4quadcore4gb1gbvideoANT+SpeedCadenceSensor:WahooFitnessspeed/cadence(thisonecanactuallybelengthenedtoprovidecadenceonrecumbentbikeslol)ANT+HRMonitor:Garminsomething,monitorisbundledwiththeForerunner405butANT+still
Wereyouatthemaxyouthoughtyoucouldsustainforthe20mins?Iknowtherearewarmupandrestperiods,soavgHRcouldbelow,butIthoughttheavgwouldbehigherthanthat.Minewas131andmyHRonlygotto165duringthe20mins.
Posted:ThuAug09,201222:06pm
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byNatePearson
dw300wrote:Iknowyou'reallabouttraining,butbeingabletouploadridedataontheflysomehow,andhaveliveraceswhereyouchallengeyourbuddiescouldturn
thisintoaPS3beater!
Workingonit
Posted:ThuAug09,201222:13pmbyNatePearson
dw300wrote:IknowTSScapacityisgoingtovaryslightlyfrompersontopersondependinghowlongthey'vebeenriding,physicalfactors,ageetc.ButI'mslightlyunclearastowhytheTSSscoresperweekforthetrainingplansseemprettylow.Iknowthatplentyofpeoplewillgetintothe200,300or400sforonerideregularly,soI'dassumethetrainingplanswouldhavehadhigherTSS.Iguessit'sbecausemostsessionsareinthe12hourrangeandnota6+hourweekendramble?
Tryoneoftheadvancedplansforacoupleweeksandseeifyoucanhang .It'sallaboutconsistencyandtimeclosetothresholddayinanddayout.Someproscanridebigbigdaysbacktobacktoback,butforusmortals7hoursaweekonthetrainerdoingintervalswill
makeyouintoaprettyfitmortal .
dw300wrote:Doyouhaveanysuggestionsfortrainingwithamorepowerfulrider?MyFTPis172..ithinkthat'sreasonablyaccurate,buttheguyIridewithmostlyisaround230,heweighsabout30lbsmore.IfeellikeI'montherivetjustkeepingupwithhimridinghissweetspot.Iusuallytryanddraghimintothehillsasmuchaspossible,eventhoughhispowertoweightisstillbetter,atleastIcanseehiminthedistanceforlonger!
It'sallaboutraisingyourFTP.AsCoggan/Huntersay,thenumberonepredictortowhowillwin
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araceistheirpowertoweightratio.ThusyoucaneitherraiseyourFTPorloseweight.Maybe
both! .
Posted:ThuAug09,201222:21pmbyNatePearsonHere'sagoodpostfromtrainingpeaksaboutTSSscoresintheTourofCaliforniaandTourdeFrance.
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/articles/ ... rance.aspx
HardestStageMeasuredbyTrainingStressScore(TSS)ValueLill361TSS,Stage6:BigBearLakeFuglsang431TSS,Stage6:BigBearLakeSorensen391TSS,Stage7:BarceloneAndorreArcalis
TotalAccumulated(EightDay)TSSPointsLill2254TSStotalFuglsang2192TSSChrisAnkerSorenson2152TSS
Anyonewho'sgotanaccurateFTPandisdoingaround400TSSisridingashardorharderthanthetopguysintheTourofCaliforniaandTourdeFrance.
That'saBIGday.
Posted:FriAug10,201200:35ambydw300
NatePearsonwrote:
dw300wrote:Iknowyou'reallabouttraining,butbeingabletouploadridedataontheflysomehow,andhaveliveraceswhereyouchallenge
yourbuddiescouldturnthisintoaPS3beater!
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Workingonit
Sweet..I'llgetstartedorganisingtheBikeRadarTRTour!
Posted:FriAug10,201203:37ambyT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/71958
NoHRMyetbutmyaveragewas119onmycateye
Trainer:EliteVolareMagReceiver:SuuntoMovestickMiniDesktoppc:4yroldselfbuild.2.4quadcore4gb1gbvideoANT+SpeedCadenceSensor:WahooFitnessspeed/cadence(thisonecanactuallybelengthenedtoprovidecadenceonrecumbentbikeslol)ANT+HRMonitor:Garminsomething,monitorisbundledwiththeForerunner405butANT+still
Wereyouatthemaxyouthoughtyoucouldsustainforthe20mins?Iknowtherearewarmupandrestperiods,soavgHRcouldbelow,butIthoughttheavgwouldbehigherthanthat.Minewas131andmyHRonlygotto165duringthe20mins.
Icouldhavewenthardertbh.Ijustchecked,162max
Posted:FriAug10,201206:56ambywhojanicanackerov
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whojanicanackerovwrote:MY470TSSridewas100milesthattook6hrsintheyorkshirenationalparkwherehillsarehillsandthesheeparenervousHAHA.Lastweekendsclubrunwas85milesTSS367yorkshiredalesagainbutasofterrunwithlessspeedbumpsprettygoodavgspeedthoughlol.
IftheseseemfartohighmaybeIshouldrestandretest?
Posted:FriAug10,201208:00ambydanowatAnFTPof170wseemsabitonthelowsidetome........
Posted:FriAug10,201208:09ambywhojanicanackerovThingshavegotmixedupdanowatlol.ihaveneversaidmyFTPis170.MyFTPismorelike270lolohhowconfusedamInowhehe.
Posted:FriAug10,201208:20ambydanowatYou'veincreasedyourFTPby100w?Impressive
Posted:FriAug10,201209:53ambyT.M.H.N.E.T
Dubcatwrote:Thanksitisthetacxtyreanddefinitelyrollssmooth.NowIneedtodecidewhetherIbuytheGSC10+GarminANT+stickorbuyanedge500bundle.Ialreadyhaveaforerunner210IREALLYwishIhadjustgotthe910XTnow.Ohwell.
WahooFitnessspeed/cad+Suuntomovestickmini.Cheaperthangarminsofferingsunlessyoubundleitallup.
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Posted:FriAug10,201210:32ambywhojanicanackerov
danowatwrote:You'veincreasedyourFTPby100w?Impressive
ThanksandyesIhaveup`dmyFTPbyalmost100WIthasn`tbeenafairytalestoryit`sbeenhardbloomingworkbutIwantit!!!theiraresomeveryfitandveryfastclimbersinourclubandIwanttobeuptheirnextseason!Morehardworkisneeded!!
Posted:FriAug10,201215:06pmbyT.M.H.N.E.TTRdoesn'tseemtoliketheGarminHRMwhenpairedthroughtheMovestick,itbecomesextremelylaggyandrefusestoloadworkouts.
EvercameacrossthisNate?Myphone(SEXperiaNeo)isANTcompatibleoutoftheboxanditpairsfaultlesslyinEndomondoandMapmyride
Posted:FriAug10,201221:07pmbyRichAIama'longtime'TRuser.Loveit.
Beenoffthetrainerforafewweeksduetothelightevenings,better(?)weatherandinmy(postevent)offseason.Butspentalottofthewinter/springonmytrainerandwillbebacksoon...
Setup...TRUser:RichATrainer:TaxcFlowReceiver:GarminStickLaptop:DellInspiron1525Power/Cadence:QuarqHR:Garmin
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MyfavouredsetupisthehorizontalbaraccrossthebottomandanepisodeofHomelandorTheWire...
Posted:FriAug10,201223:11pmbyNatePearson
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:TRdoesn'tseemtoliketheGarminHRMwhenpairedthroughtheMovestick,itbecomesextremelylaggyandrefusestoloadworkouts.
EvercameacrossthisNate?Myphone(SEXperiaNeo)isANTcompatibleoutoftheboxanditpairsfaultlesslyinEndomondoandMapmyride
Hey,
NoIhaven'[email protected]?We'llturnonsomeloggingtoseewhat'sgoingon.TheprogramthatreceivesANTdataissuperlightweight,soitshouldn'tbeboggingdownanything.I'msurewecanfigureitoutthough.
Posted:SatAug11,201206:53ambyT.M.H.N.E.T
NatePearsonwrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:TRdoesn'tseemtoliketheGarminHRMwhenpairedthroughtheMovestick,itbecomesextremelylaggyandrefusestoloadworkouts.
EvercameacrossthisNate?Myphone(SEXperiaNeo)isANTcompatibleoutoftheboxanditpairsfaultlesslyinEndomondoandMapmyride
Hey,
NoIhaven'[email protected]?We'llturnonsomeloggingtoseewhat'sgoingon.TheprogramthatreceivesANTdataissuperlightweight,soitshouldn'tbeboggingdownanything.I'msurewecanfigureitoutthough.
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Willdo
suggestionWoulditbepossibletoaddanintensityfieldtotheprofilesothatallworkoutsautomaticallydefaultto120%forexample,butkeeptheontheflyadjustmentduring?
Posted:SatAug11,201211:54ambydw300
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:
NatePearsonwrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:TRdoesn'tseemtoliketheGarminHRMwhenpairedthroughtheMovestick,itbecomesextremelylaggyandrefusestoloadworkouts.
EvercameacrossthisNate?Myphone(SEXperiaNeo)isANTcompatibleoutoftheboxanditpairsfaultlesslyinEndomondoandMapmyride
Hey,
NoIhaven'[email protected]?We'llturnonsomeloggingtoseewhat'sgoingon.TheprogramthatreceivesANTdataissuperlightweight,soitshouldn'tbeboggingdownanything.I'msurewecanfigureitoutthough.
Willdo
suggestionWoulditbepossibletoaddanintensityfieldtotheprofilesothatallworkoutsautomaticallydefaultto120%forexample,butkeeptheontheflyadjustmentduring?
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Sadist.
Posted:SatAug11,201212:31pmbyJGSIYoucandothisalready.ThereisanupanddownarrowontheTRapplettoincreaseorreducebywhatever%,thetargetpower.IusewhenIwanttouseagoodworkoutbuthaveitatrecoverylevelofifyoureferencethisride,http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/70854
Ihadtodropitforthe2ndhalf,andstillIcouldntcopetoowell!
Posted:SatAug11,201214:09pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
JGSIwrote:Youcandothisalready.ThereisanupanddownarrowontheTRapplettoincreaseorreducebywhatever%,thetargetpower.IusewhenIwanttouseagoodworkoutbuthaveitatrecoverylevelofifyoureferencethisride,
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http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/70854Ihadtodropitforthe2ndhalf,andstillIcouldntcopetoowell!
Yes,andyouhavetoincrease/decreasethiseachtimeyouloadaworkout.Loadingadefaultset%wouldbehandy
Posted:SatAug11,201215:03pmbyJGSIAreyoufindingtheworkoutstooeasy?MaybeunderestimatingFTP...Ihavecomeoffahardseasonracingbutconsidermineat260,inneedofimprovingsignificantly,butasIonlynowhave2racesleft,Iambidingmytimeandmakingimprovementsoveralongerphasefor2013...butIwanttoseeitnudging300forthestartofnextseason.
So,unlessIspecificallychoosearecoveryride,theneachoftheworkoutshasbeenonthebuttonforintensity...evenHellHathwhichhasadisclaimerforprobablyneedingabuckettogetthruit.
Posted:SatAug11,201215:06pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
JGSIwrote:Areyoufindingtheworkoutstooeasy?MaybeunderestimatingFTP...Ihavecomeoffahardseasonracingbutconsidermineat260,inneedofimprovingsignificantly,butasIonlynowhave2racesleft,Iambidingmytimeandmakingimprovementsoveralongerphasefor2013...butIwanttoseeitnudging300forthestartofnextseason.
So,unlessIspecificallychoosearecoveryride,theneachoftheworkoutshasbeenonthebuttonforintensity...evenHellHathwhichhasadisclaimerforprobablyneedingabuckettogetthruit.
HonestlyIcan'tsayeitherway,justhappenedtonoticeitresetto100%eachtimeIloadedaworkout.
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MaybeI'mjustlazy
Posted:SatAug11,201215:39pmbyJGSINo,it'smethatsbeenlazyandthusthat'swhyTRissuchabonustoactuallytraintherightwayforthefirsttimewithallthebloominguessworkoutoftheequation...
Posted:SatAug11,201216:40pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
JGSIwrote:No,it'smethatsbeenlazyandthusthat'swhyTRissuchabonustoactuallytraintherightwayforthefirsttimewithallthebloominguessworkoutoftheequation...
You'rehonestaboutitlol!
Thelastintervalwasakiller!!http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72335
Posted:SatAug11,201222:59pmbydw300WhatdoesTMHNETstandforanyway?
Posted:SunAug12,201207:09ambyT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:WhatdoesTMHNETstandforanyway?
TooManyHobbiesNotEnoughTime
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Idunnowasboredthatday
Posted:SunAug12,201214:33pmbyT.M.H.N.E.TFortheuninitiatedTrainerRoad(whichshallbereferredtoasTRfromnowonwards)isaWindowsandMaccompatiblesoftwaredesignedtomaketurbotrainerworkoutsalittlemorechallenging.ThesoftwareitselfrelieswhollyuponANT+technologytoprovidetherealtimefeedbackduringaworkout.
Thereare3waysinwhichtodoandrecordaworkoutwithTR
ANT+Powermeters:(Quarq,PowerTap,SRM,Power2Max,GarminVector,Zone,etc)oraCompuTrainer.
HeartRate:ANT+HRStrap(Garmin,Cycleops,WahooFitness,etc)
VirtualPower:ANT+SpeedSensorGarminGSC10,WahooFitnessSpeedandCadenceSensor
***AllthreemethodsrequireaUSBANT+receiverstick.GarminmakeoneasdoSuunto(Movestickmini)***
AndacompatibleTurboTrainer:List here
VirtualPower(commonlyusedbyTRusershereonBR)takestheknownpowercurvefromalistedtrainerandthroughyourANT+speedsensorturnsthisintoanapproximatefigureinwatts.Thisfigureisthenusedasyoufollowtheonscreeninstructionsandpromptsduringaworkout.
WithVirtualPower,weareeffectivelymeasuringpoweratthetrainer.Thatmeansthatanyvarianceinthedrivetrainbetweenyourpedalsandthetrainercanhaveaneffect.WhentrainingwithVirtualPower,makesureyourtirepressureandtensionagainstthewheelarethesameeachtimeyouride.Thiswillgiveyouconsistentpowerreadings.
Differenttensionsonthewheeleffectrollingresistanceandcanskewyourreadings.
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Theimportantthingistohaveconsistentandrepeatablereadingstotrainwith.That'swhyhavingthesametensiononyourtireandthesametirepressureeachrideisimportant.
Soonceyouhavethehardwareyouchosefittedit'stimetodownloadTRandbegintheveryeasysetupprocess.Thefirsttimeyouloadtheprogramiswilltakeafewsecondstodownloadworkoutfiles.
YoucanthengotothisscreenifyouhaveyourUSBANT+stickpluggedinandinstalled.I'vealreadyusedTRsomysensorshavebeenpairedalreadybuthaven'tbeenwokenup.
Aquickspinofmycranks(bikeisonothersideofroom)wakesuptheWahoospeed/cadencesensorfitted.TheHRMwillpairitselfonceaheartbeatisdetected.
Note:Ihavemytrainerandresistancelevelselectedinthissamewindow.
Withdevicespairedit'salmosttimetodoaworkout(theresplentyofthem!)Butsomeotherminorstufffirst.
Clickonthe"Profile"tab.
FormostpurposesyouwouldwanttobetrainingwithFTP,thisbydefaultissetto200whichcanbelowerorhigherforyou.Asyoucanseemineiscurrently220
LTHR:IsaprettyrandomnumberasIwashavingproblemswithaknownbug.
Powersmoothing:Thisoptionstabilizesthefiguresasanaverageduringaworkout.Youcanhavenone,3secsor5secs.
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Thelastimportantoptionis"Don'tusecadencetoplayandpauseworkouts".Thisoptiontickedwillstartaworkoutonceyouhitthestartbutton,ifyouusecadence(above60rpm)startstheworkoutand0rpmpausestheworkout.AhandyfeatureifyoubreakyourbikelikeI
didyesterday (thiswasnotanyfaultofTRorthetrainer )
Workoutscreen:ThegoldstarsareworkoutsthatIhavefavourited,thesewillremainatthetopofthewindow.I'mcurrentlydoingtheintermediatebaseplanandBaxterismynextridesoit'stherewaiting.YoucanopenandviewaworkoutbyclickingthegraphorbyusingtheOpenbuttonwhenyouareviewingthedetailsoftheworkout.
Asensibleplacetostartiswiththe20minutetest.Thisis1hourlongwitha20minutemaxeffortsegment.ThissegmentisusedtocalculateyourFTP(themaximumpoweryoucansustainfor1hr)Afteryouhavedonethis,TRwillgiveyouarecommendationastowhatitthinksyourFTPshouldbesetto.Asyouwillseesoon,thissettingscalesallworkoutsforyou.
Here is the result:Althoughitsuggested201Imadeitalittlehigheranyway.
Downtobusiness:
I'vetakenthelibertyofhighlighting6fieldstoexplainalittlefurthersoontothe3upperleftofthewindow:
Power:Thisisthecurrentpowerthatisbeingcalculated
Boldredline:Whenthisbarisgreenyouareinthesweetspoteithersideofthetarget.
Targetpower:Thisisthetargetforyoutoachieveduringaparticularsegment.Asasegmentiseitherbeginningorending,loudbleepsandonscreeninstructionstellyouwhattodo.Watchforthistargetpowerfigurechangingasyougo
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Heartrateandcadenceareagiven.Ifyoudon'thaveanHRMpairedthisfieldwon'tshow.
Acrossthemiddleoftheworkoutisathickwhiteline.ThisismyFTPandtheworkouthasscaledaroundthat.Thehighestpeakyouseecorrespondsto352wattsfor30secondsintoa5minuterecoveryperiodof88watttarget.Thisrampsuptothefirst8minutesegment@253watttarget.
Bottomleft:ThisoptionmakesTRstayontopofanythingelseyouaredoing,handyforwatchingfullscreendvd's,youtube,netflixandsoon.
Theup/downarrows:Thisoptionchangestheintensityofyourworkoutonthefly.100%isyourcurrentFTPsoifaworkoutistooeasy,turnitupandlikewiseturnitdownifit'stoohard.
TheotherawesomenessinTRiscompatibilitywithSufferFest.CurrentlyIonlyhaveHellHathNoFuryandhereitis,fullyintegratedwithTR.
Theworkoutsyoudowillthenbelistedunderthe"Career"tabwithinwhichyoucanshareviaFacebook,downloadandreviewthedata.
Posted:SunAug12,201215:05pmbydw300ToMuchTime,NotEnoughHobbies!
Goodpost!
Posted:SunAug12,201215:45pm
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byT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:ToMuchTime,NotEnoughHobbies!
Goodpost!
TisSunday,it'sarestday
Posted:MonAug13,201211:04ambyJGSIgoonthen,whohasorisgoingtodothe3hourturboride,sothattheneatlittlegraphthingygetsfilleduponthecareerpage?
Posted:MonAug13,201212:03pmbywhojanicanackerov
JGSIwrote:goonthen,whohasorisgoingtodothe3hourturboride,sothattheneatlittlegraphthingygetsfilleduponthecareerpage?
Wellitwontbeme
Posted:MonAug13,201212:58pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
JGSIwrote:goonthen,whohasorisgoingtodothe3hourturboride,sothattheneatlittlegraphthingygetsfilleduponthecareerpage?
IftherewasaSFvidofVickyPgoingroundthevelodromefor3hrs,Iwouldcertainlyfollowit.
Posted:MonAug13,201214:29pmbydw300
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JGSIwrote:goonthen,whohasorisgoingtodothe3hourturboride,sothattheneatlittlegraphthingygetsfilleduponthecareerpage?
Thatmakesmybuttocksachejustthinkingaboutit!
Posted:MonAug13,201215:56pmbydw300Ok,gonajumponthebike,butidon'tknowwhatworkouttodo.
Thinkingaboutanhour.Don'twantanybig20minuteintervals,butwanttoexertmyself.I'mthinkingsomethingthat'llhelpmegetbackontheendofagroupofbetterridersifIgetdropped,mightcomeinuseful!
Thinkingmaybe..Fight Club (Remastered)..?
Posted:MonAug13,201216:04pmbyT.M.H.N.E.TStartinglastWOofWK1IntermediateBase.
90minsofbaxter.yay!
Posted:MonAug13,201217:47pmbywhojanicanackerov
dw300wrote:Ok,gonajumponthebike,butidon'tknowwhatworkouttodo.
Thinkingaboutanhour.Don'twantanybig20minuteintervals,butwanttoexertmyself.I'mthinkingsomethingthat'llhelpmegetbackontheendofagroupofbetterridersifIgetdropped,mightcomeinuseful!
Thinkingmaybe..Fight Club (Remastered)..?
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WellexecutedthatfightclubrideDW I`mhaving2daysrestasSaturdaysClubrun
wasatoughoneontiredlegs Tomorrowwillbebacktobusinessthough.
Posted:MonAug13,201217:52pmbydw300Ok,wellIsorted2ofmy3nigglingpainsfromthe20mintest,butIstillhavesomepainfrommyleftkneearea.specifically,theboneybittotherightofmyleftkneecap.Ineverfeelthisontheroad,onlyonthetrainer,andonlyinmyleftleg.Anyideas?
Anyway,here'stheworkout..felteasyenoughapartfromthekneepain..http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72645
Wellspottedwhojan,Ihadn'tevenfinishedthispost!
YoufinishedyetTM?
Posted:MonAug13,201218:04pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:Ok,wellIsorted2ofmy3nigglingpainsfromthe20mintest,butIstillhavesomepainfrommyleftkneearea.specifically,theboneybittotherightofmyleftkneecap.Ineverfeelthisontheroad,onlyonthetrainer,andonlyinmyleftleg.Anyideas?
Anyway,here'stheworkout..felteasyenoughapartfromthekneepain..http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72645
Wellspottedwhojan,Ihadn'tevenfinishedthispost!
YoufinishedyetTM?
Aye.Hadtocallitquitsat55minsorso,boringthetitsoffme!Feltabit"tourist"opposedtothehardgraftofGayley.
Onwardtoweek2whichisaballslolEricssonMonitorEclipse
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Posted:MonAug13,201218:05pmbywhojanicanackerovHaveareadofthisregardingthekneepain.Saddletoloworneedsmovingback?http://www.bikeradar.com/fitness/articl ... t-2-17445/
Posted:MonAug13,201218:23pmbywhojanicanackerov
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:
dw300wrote:Ok,wellIsorted2ofmy3nigglingpainsfromthe20mintest,butIstillhavesomepainfrommyleftkneearea.specifically,theboneybittotherightofmyleftkneecap.Ineverfeelthisontheroad,onlyonthetrainer,andonlyinmyleftleg.Anyideas?
Anyway,here'stheworkout..felteasyenoughapartfromthekneepain..http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72645
Wellspottedwhojan,Ihadn'tevenfinishedthispost!
YoufinishedyetTM?
Aye.Hadtocallitquitsat55minsorso,boringthetitsoffme!Feltabit"tourist"opposedtothehardgraftofGayley.
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Onwardtoweek2whichisaballslolEricssonMonitorEclipse
THMwelldone...IhatenotbeingabletofinishaTRrideorevenjustaturborideforthatmatter.IfailedtheotherweekthroughtirednessandthenagainhavingforgotIhadtotakethekids
thedentist .IthinkwhenIattemptthelongerthananhourridesIwillbewearingtwopairsofbibshortstohelpreliefthears*pain.
Boredomwillnevergetthebetterofmethough,musicwillpullmethrough
Posted:MonAug13,201218:31pmbywhojanicanackerovTHMjustwaituntiltheeclipseride.youwillneedplentyofgritspitandabitmoregrittogetthroughthatone.Willbeworthitthoughinthelongrun!!
Posted:MonAug13,201218:56pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
whojanicanackerovwrote:THMjustwaituntiltheeclipseride.youwillneedplentyofgritspitandabitmoregrittogetthroughthatone.Willbeworthitthoughinthelongrun!!
Iactuallypreferthelookofthisweeksthreelol.120%ballsout.
Posted:MonAug13,201220:24pmbyJGSIhttp://app.strava.com/clubs/trainerroad
anddontdothisifyoubikesetupissues:
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http://blog.trainerroad.com/workout-of- ... -disaster/
youmightneedtorefreshtheTRapplet.
Posted:MonAug13,201221:55pmbyNatePearson
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:
NatePearsonwrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:TRdoesn'tseemtoliketheGarminHRMwhenpairedthroughtheMovestick,itbecomesextremelylaggyandrefusestoloadworkouts.
EvercameacrossthisNate?Myphone(SEXperiaNeo)isANTcompatibleoutoftheboxanditpairsfaultlesslyinEndomondoandMapmyride
Hey,
NoIhaven'[email protected]?We'llturnonsomeloggingtoseewhat'sgoingon.TheprogramthatreceivesANTdataissuperlightweight,soitshouldn'tbeboggingdownanything.I'msurewecanfigureitoutthough.
Willdo
suggestionWoulditbepossibletoaddanintensityfieldtotheprofilesothatallworkoutsautomaticallydefaultto120%forexample,butkeeptheontheflyadjustmentduring?
JustchangeyourFTP.
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Posted:MonAug13,201221:59pmbyNatePearson
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:FortheuninitiatedTrainerRoad(whichshallbereferredtoasTRfromnowonwards)isaWindowsandMaccompatiblesoftwaredesignedtomaketurbotrainerworkoutsalittlemorechallenging.ThesoftwareitselfrelieswhollyuponANT+technologytoprovidetherealtimefeedbackduringaworkout.
Thereare3waysinwhichtodoandrecordaworkoutwithTR
ANT+Powermeters:(Quarq,PowerTap,SRM,Power2Max,GarminVector,Zone,etc)oraCompuTrainer.
HeartRate:ANT+HRStrap(Garmin,Cycleops,WahooFitness,etc)
VirtualPower:ANT+SpeedSensorGarminGSC10,WahooFitnessSpeedandCadenceSensor
***AllthreemethodsrequireaUSBANT+receiverstick.GarminmakeoneasdoSuunto(Movestickmini)***
AndacompatibleTurboTrainer:List here
VirtualPower(commonlyusedbyTRusershereonBR)takestheknownpowercurvefromalistedtrainerandthroughyourANT+speedsensorturnsthisintoanapproximatefigureinwatts.Thisfigureisthenusedasyoufollowtheonscreeninstructionsandpromptsduringaworkout.
WithVirtualPower,weareeffectivelymeasuringpoweratthetrainer.Thatmeansthatanyvarianceinthedrivetrainbetweenyourpedalsandthetrainercanhaveaneffect.WhentrainingwithVirtualPower,makesureyourtirepressureandtensionagainstthewheelarethesameeachtimeyouride.Thiswillgiveyouconsistentpowerreadings.
Differenttensionsonthewheeleffectrollingresistanceandcanskewyourreadings.Theimportantthingistohaveconsistentandrepeatablereadingstotrainwith.That'swhyhavingthesametensiononyourtireandthesametirepressureeachrideisimportant.
Soonceyouhavethehardwareyouchosefittedit'stimetodownloadTRandbegintheveryeasysetupprocess.Thefirsttimeyouloadtheprogramiswilltakeafew
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secondstodownloadworkoutfiles.
YoucanthengotothisscreenifyouhaveyourUSBANT+stickpluggedinandinstalled.I'vealreadyusedTRsomysensorshavebeenpairedalreadybuthaven'tbeenwokenup.
Aquickspinofmycranks(bikeisonothersideofroom)wakesuptheWahoo
Note:Ihavemytrainerandresistancelevelselectedinthissamewindow.
Withdevicespairedit'salmosttimetodoaworkout(theresplentyofthem!)Butsomeotherminorstufffirst.
FormostpurposesyouwouldwanttobetrainingwithFTP,thisbydefaultissetto200whichcanbelowerorhigherforyou.Asyoucanseemineiscurrently220
LTHR:IsaprettyrandomnumberasIwashavingproblemswithaknownbug.
Powersmoothing:Thisoptionstabilizesthefiguresasanaverageduringaworkout.Youcanhavenone,3secsor5secs.
Thelastimportantoptionis"Don'tusecadencetoplayandpauseworkouts".Thisoptiontickedwillstartaworkoutonceyouhitthestartbutton,ifyouusecadence(above60rpm)startstheworkoutand0rpmpausestheworkout.Ahandy
featureifyoubreakyourbikelikeIdidyesterday (thiswasnotanyfaultof
TRorthetrainer )
Workoutscreen:ThegoldstarsareworkoutsthatIhavefavourited,thesewillremainatthetopofthewindow.I'mcurrentlydoingtheintermediatebaseplanandBaxterismynextridesoit'stherewaiting.YoucanopenandviewaworkoutbyclickingthegraphorbyusingtheOpenbuttonwhenyouareviewingthedetailsoftheworkout.
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Asensibleplacetostartiswiththe20minutetest.Thisis1hourlongwitha20minutemaxeffortsegment.ThissegmentisusedtocalculateyourFTP(themaximumpoweryoucansustainfor1hr)Afteryouhavedonethis,TRwillgiveyouarecommendationastowhatitthinksyourFTPshouldbesetto.Asyouwillseesoon,thissettingscalesallworkoutsforyou.
Here is the result:Althoughitsuggested201Imadeitalittlehigheranyway.
Downtobusiness:
I'vetakenthelibertyofhighlighting6fieldstoexplainalittlefurthersoontothe3upperleftofthewindow:
Power:Thisisthecurrentpowerthatisbeingcalculated
Boldredline:Whenthisbarisgreenyouareinthesweetspoteithersideofthetarget.
Targetpower:Thisisthetargetforyoutoachieveduringaparticularsegment.Asasegmentiseitherbeginningorending,loudbleepsandonscreeninstructionstellyouwhattodo.Watchforthistargetpowerfigurechangingasyougo
Heartrateandcadenceareagiven.Ifyoudon'thaveanHRMpairedthisfieldwon'tshow.
Acrossthemiddleoftheworkoutisathickwhiteline.ThisismyFTPandtheworkouthasscaledaroundthat.Thehighestpeakyouseecorrespondsto352wattsfor30secondsintoa5minuterecoveryperiodof88watttarget.Thisrampsuptothefirst8minutesegment@253watttarget.
Bottomleft:ThisoptionmakesTRstayontopofanythingelseyouaredoing,handyforwatchingfullscreendvd's,youtube,netflixandsoon.
Theup/downarrows:Thisoptionchangestheintensityofyourworkoutonthefly.100%isyourcurrentFTPsoifaworkoutistooeasy,turnitupandlikewiseturnitdownifit'stoohard.
TheotherawesomenessinTRiscompatibilitywithSufferFest.CurrentlyIonlyhave
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HellHathNoFuryandhereitis,fullyintegratedwithTR.
Theworkoutsyoudowillthenbelistedunderthe"Career"tabwithinwhichyoucanshareviaFacebook,downloadandreviewthedata.
Wow,greatpost!
Posted:MonAug13,201222:41pmbydw300CansomeonetellmeifthereisaguidelinepowertablefordifferenttimeperiodsbasedoffFTP.ImeanFTPisroughly95%of20minutepower,so1hris100%,20minsis105.3%,etcetc.
Iknowfromliftingthatyoucanworkoutfromyourcurrentlifts,whatyour1RepMax,double,triple,orsetof5or8shouldroughlybe.
SoifIknowmyFTP,canyouroughlyworkoutwhatyou'dexpectyourpowerfor2hoursor3hours,ormoreorlesstobe?
Posted:TueAug14,201203:24ambyT.M.H.N.E.T
NatePearsonwrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:
NatePearsonwrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:TRdoesn'tseemtoliketheGarminHRMwhenpairedthroughtheMovestick,itbecomesextremelylaggyandrefusestoloadworkouts.
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EvercameacrossthisNate?Myphone(SEXperiaNeo)isANTcompatibleoutoftheboxanditpairsfaultlesslyinEndomondoandMapmyride
Hey,
NoIhaven'[email protected]?We'llturnonsomeloggingtoseewhat'sgoingon.TheprogramthatreceivesANTdataissuperlightweight,soitshouldn'tbeboggingdownanything.I'msurewecanfigureitoutthough.
Willdo
suggestionWoulditbepossibletoaddanintensityfieldtotheprofilesothatallworkoutsautomaticallydefaultto120%forexample,butkeeptheontheflyadjustmentduring?
JustchangeyourFTP.
Itdidn'toccurtomethatthemostsimpleofsolutionswasstaringmeintheface
ThanksNate
ps:havebeenwatchingthelastfewoftheoriginalBond's.Licencetokillleftthenontothe
moremodernBrosnanera ItriedtoprovethisbytakingascreenofUrsulaAndressinaseductiveposeinDrNo.AfterthatIhave
LineofsightTheFlyingScotsmanLA7inarowOlympicXCMTBmensandwomensAlotofTDFPendletonCyclingsgoldengirl
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WigginsAveryBritishchampion
AndshouldgetOvercomingbackoffmymate.BitofRiisandclassicJensintheCSC
days
Posted:TueAug14,201208:39ambyamaferanga
dw300wrote:CansomeonetellmeifthereisaguidelinepowertablefordifferenttimeperiodsbasedoffFTP.ImeanFTPisroughly95%of20minutepower,so1hris100%,20minsis105.3%,etcetc.
Iknowfromliftingthatyoucanworkoutfromyourcurrentlifts,whatyour1RepMax,double,triple,orsetof5or8shouldroughlybe.
SoifIknowmyFTP,canyouroughlyworkoutwhatyou'dexpectyourpowerfor2hoursor3hours,ormoreorlesstobe?
20minvs.1hourpowerand1hourvs.2or3hourpowerareallverymuchdowntotheindividual.Somefolksmightonlymanage90%oftheir20minutepowerforanhour,whileothersmaymanagecloserto95%orevenmore.Similarlyfor23hourpower.PersonallyIcanholdanormalisedpowerof>95%myofmy1hourpowerina2.5hourrace(butI'venoideaifIcouldmaintainasteadystatepowerashighasthat).Othersmaystruggletohold90%oftheir1hourpowerfordurationsof>2hours.
Soitdepends.
Posted:TueAug14,201208:44ambyamaferanga
WithVirtualPower,weareeffectivelymeasuringpoweratthetrainer.Thatmeansthatanyvarianceinthedrivetrainbetweenyourpedalsandthetrainercanhaveaneffect.WhentrainingwithVirtualPower,makesureyourtirepressureandtensionagainstthewheelarethesameeachtimeyouride.Thiswillgiveyouconsistentpowerreadings.
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Differenttensionsonthewheeleffectrollingresistanceandcanskewyourreadings.Theimportantthingistohaveconsistentandrepeatablereadingstotrainwith.That'swhyhavingthesametensiononyourtireandthesametirepressureeachrideisimportant.
SowhyattempttoestimatepowerwithEliteturbotrainerssuchastheSupercronoFluidwhereyouhavenocontroloverclampingtension?Howisitpossibletogetconsistentpowerreadingswhensimplysittinginaslightlydifferentpositiononthebikewillchangetheresistance?AndallthatontopofthefactthattheresistancefromElitefluidtrainersissohugelytemperaturedependent....
Posted:TueAug14,201212:31pmbywhojanicanackerovToday`sridewasacracker!!
AverydarkplacethathurtlikehellWillIbegoingbackthereOhyesIwill http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72787
Posted:TueAug14,201216:44pmbyNatePearson
amaferangawrote:
WithVirtualPower,weareeffectivelymeasuringpoweratthetrainer.Thatmeansthatanyvarianceinthedrivetrainbetweenyourpedalsandthetrainercanhaveaneffect.WhentrainingwithVirtualPower,makesureyourtirepressureandtensionagainstthewheelarethesameeachtimeyouride.Thiswillgiveyouconsistentpowerreadings.
Differenttensionsonthewheeleffectrollingresistanceandcanskewyourreadings.Theimportantthingistohaveconsistentandrepeatablereadingstotrainwith.That'swhyhavingthesametensiononyourtireandthesametirepressureeachrideisimportant.
SowhyattempttoestimatepowerwithEliteturbotrainerssuchastheSupercronoFluidwhereyouhavenocontroloverclampingtension?Howisitpossibletoget
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consistentpowerreadingswhensimplysittinginaslightlydifferentpositiononthebikewillchangetheresistance?AndallthatontopofthefactthattheresistancefromElitefluidtrainersissohugelytemperaturedependent....
Greatquestion.Sometrainersjustwon'tworkwithVirtualPowerbecauseofthereasonsyou'vestated.Idon'thavethedataontheSupercronoFluidinfrontofme.IbelieveElitegaveusthepowercurveforthatone,butI'mnotsure.
Wehavea3HPmotorhookeduptoabikeandarerunningtestsontrainerstovalidatepowercurvesandhopefullybuildinrolldowncalibration.Thatway,ifsometrainer'sresistancecurveschangeastheyheatup,wecanhavesomeonedoarolldowntestbetweenintervalsandautocorrectthecurve.Thisalsohelpsuswithdifferencesinrollingresistanceanddifferencesinmanufacturing(likefluidleversinaresistanceunit).
We'vetestedabunchofAmericantrainers,Cycleops,1upandKurtKineticandthey'vealldonereallywellonthemotor.Onethingtonoteisjustaboutallthetrainerstakearound510minutesforthereartiretoheatupandstabilize.That'sdoneduringariderswarmupperiodwhereadriftofafewwattswon'tmatter.
Intheendthough,wethinkeveryonewouldbenefitfromhavingapowermetersotheycantakethesenumbersandgoindoors/outdoors/racewiththem.Weunderstandthat'sabiginvestmentthough,sointhemeantimeyoucangetVirtualPowerwithoutalargeinvestment.
Posted:TueAug14,201217:15pmbyJGSI
NatePearsonwrote:Intheendthough,wethinkeveryonewouldbenefitfromhavingapowermetersotheycantakethesenumbersandgoindoors/outdoors/racewiththem.Weunderstandthat'sabiginvestmentthough,sointhemeantimeyoucangetVirtualPowerwithoutalargeinvestment.
I'llsayamentothat...withoutTR,IhavetosaythatIwouldnothavelastedthe8minutesatanindicated300wattsonthisworkout:http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72850
Before,evenwithSufferfest,Iwouldsimplyhavegivenup.
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Posted:TueAug14,201218:57pmbywhojanicanackerov
JGSIwrote:
NatePearsonwrote:Intheendthough,wethinkeveryonewouldbenefitfromhavingapowermetersotheycantakethesenumbersandgoindoors/outdoors/racewiththem.Weunderstandthat'sabiginvestmentthough,sointhemeantimeyoucangetVirtualPowerwithoutalargeinvestment.
I'llsayamentothat...withoutTR,IhavetosaythatIwouldnothavelastedthe8minutesatanindicated300wattsonthisworkout:http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72850Before,evenwithSufferfest,Iwouldsimplyhavegivenup.
Niceridethatwelldone!
Posted:TueAug14,201219:16pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
JGSIwrote:
NatePearsonwrote:Intheendthough,wethinkeveryonewouldbenefitfromhavingapowermetersotheycantakethesenumbersandgoindoors/outdoors/racewiththem.Weunderstandthat'sabiginvestmentthough,sointhemeantimeyoucangetVirtualPowerwithoutalargeinvestment.
I'llsayamentothat...withoutTR,IhavetosaythatIwouldnothavelastedthe8minutesatanindicated300wattsonthisworkout:http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/72850Before,evenwithSufferfest,Iwouldsimplyhavegivenup.
Nicelydone!Iplacedmybikeontothethingcalledaroadtoday,itwasglorious!Bitofpainandsweatindoorsmakesadifferenceoutdoors!
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Posted:WedAug15,201207:34ambyJGSIah,yestheopenroad..I'llremindmeselfwhatitislikeonSunday..mypenultimateraceofthe
season
QuestionforNate:
Mypowerfiguresfortempo/sweetspotandthresholdseemaboutright,buttheHRnumbersseemabitoff.Forinstance,itisgivingmythresholdat158whereIamsustainingaround170.WillthisselfcorrectwhenInextdoaFTP'test'orcanIcalibrate?TheinitialFTPtestwasdonewithoutaHRstraptoclarify.Idon'treallywanttorepeatanothertestprotocolsosoonifIdon'thaveto.WhenIrace,Idon'thavepower,theonly'number'IhaveonthebikeisHRandifIdo1andgowithabreakordoalongoneonthelastlap(Ihavenosprint),itwouldbeextremelyusefultoridetothecorrectpacewiththeknowledgegainedfromtheTRfigures.
Posted:WedAug15,201207:54ambyGiantMikeWhatimprovementsareyouguysseeingasaresultofusingTR?
Posted:WedAug15,201212:22pmbywhojanicanackerovGiantmikeoneofthemajorfactorsformewithTRisthatitgeneratesgreaterfocus.
Posted:WedAug15,201214:04pmbydw300
GiantMikewrote:WhatimprovementsareyouguysseeingasaresultofusingTR?
Ihaven'tbeenusingitlongenoughtoillustrateatrend.Givemeacoupleofmonths.
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Posted:WedAug15,201216:49pmbydw300Right..theweatheroutsideisterrible,anothertypicalBritishsummer'sday..soIdecidedIwantedtodoatoughTRworkout,havinghadadayoffthebikeyesterday.
Idecidedtodothe20minutetestagain,mainlybecauseIjustwantedtoseeifIcouldbeatmylastattempt.Ialsowantedtotestoutanewsaddleangleandposition,andleftcleatposition.
Thepositionchangesseemtohaveworked.Ireadthearticlewhojanlinkedto,andIhadafeelingthatIwashavingaproblemwithmyleftpatellanotslidinginitgrooveproperly.Justgoingbyfeel,Ifiguredthatpointingmyleftoutoutwardsabitmightstopmykneekickinginwardsduringthepushingphaseofthestroke,anditseemstohavedonethetrick.
SoIjumpedonthebikeanddidn'thaveanypain.Ihavetiltedmyseatdownwardsabit,soIcanrotatemypelvisforwardwithoutsquashingmybits,whichIthinkgetsmeinamorepowerfulposition.IwasalsoabletogiveallIcouldthistime,comparedtolasttimewhenIhitamaxHRof165,butcouldn'tputdownmorepower.
Here'stheworkout..http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73109
I'vegonefromanFTPof172,upto212,whichgetsmetoapowertoweightratioof3W/kg..icanfinallysayI'mapropercyclistnow.Could'vedonewithafan!
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Posted:WedAug15,201217:36pmbyJGSIYoudefinitelyhadasmootherrideonthattest.betterthanmine.welldone..hasthesoftwareadjustedyourftpandHR?
Posted:WedAug15,201218:33pmbydw300
JGSIwrote:Youdefinitelyhadasmootherrideonthattest.betterthanmine.welldone..hasthesoftwareadjustedyourftpandHR?
Ijustfoundanicegearforthe20minutetestbasedonthe5minuteintervalbeforehand,andwhenthe20minutestartedIdidn'tevenlookatthenumbers,itwasn'ttill5minsinwhenitbeepedthatIlookeddownandhadbeendoing220230forthefirst5mins.Imadeacoupleofcadencedropsfrom110to100foralittlerest,andacoupleofhighpoweredeffortstowardstheendtoseeifIcouldholdthemtoraisetheaverageabit.
AttheendthesoftwaresuggestsyournewFTPandLTHR,youcanclicktosettothose,ordismissandchangemanuallyinyourowntime.Ijustchangedminethereandthen.
It'sweird,eventhoughit'sthesamebikeandi'veriddenthetrainerplenty,IfeellikeI'mstillgettingusedtodoingbiggereffortsindoorsusingTR.Ialwaysuseditforeasierstuff,anddidhardworkontheroad.IwasuncomfortablewiththeintenseheatandsweatingthatIdon'tgetoutdoors.
Theextra40Wshouldmakeadifferencetotherestofthetraininganyway..gladIexperimentedabit,andI'drecommendrunningthetests23timesinthefirst1012ridesasyouadjusttomakesureyourworkingoffofthebesteffortyoucangiveduringthetest.IknowI'dbeenholdingbadabitsoIdidn'thurtmyself.
Posted:WedAug15,201218:54pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:
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JGSIwrote:Youdefinitelyhadasmootherrideonthattest.betterthanmine.welldone..hasthesoftwareadjustedyourftpandHR?
Ijustfoundanicegearforthe20minutetestbasedonthe5minuteintervalbeforehand,andwhenthe20minutestartedIdidn'tevenlookatthenumbers,itwasn'ttill5minsinwhenitbeepedthatIlookeddownandhadbeendoing220230forthefirst5mins.Imadeacoupleofcadencedropsfrom110to100foralittlerest,andacoupleofhighpoweredeffortstowardstheendtoseeifIcouldholdthemtoraisetheaverageabit.
AttheendthesoftwaresuggestsyournewFTPandLTHR,youcanclicktosettothose,ordismissandchangemanuallyinyourowntime.Ijustchangedminethereandthen.
It'sweird,eventhoughit'sthesamebikeandi'veriddenthetrainerplenty,IfeellikeI'mstillgettingusedtodoingbiggereffortsindoorsusingTR.Ialwaysuseditforeasierstuff,anddidhardworkontheroad.IwasuncomfortablewiththeintenseheatandsweatingthatIdon'tgetoutdoors.
Theextra40Wshouldmakeadifferencetotherestofthetraininganyway..gladIexperimentedabit,andI'drecommendrunningthetests23timesinthefirst1012ridesasyouadjusttomakesureyourworkingoffofthebesteffortyoucangiveduringthetest.IknowI'dbeenholdingbadabitsoIdidn'thurtmyself.
It'spossibleyourpositionwasholdingyoubackabit,minecertainlywasontheroadatleast.I'mhopingitshowsonTRtoo.
Posted:WedAug15,201219:26pmbydw300
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:
dw300wrote:
JGSIwrote:Youdefinitelyhadasmootherrideonthattest.betterthanmine.welldone..hasthesoftwareadjustedyourftpandHR?
Ijustfoundanicegearforthe20minutetestbasedonthe5minute
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intervalbeforehand,andwhenthe20minutestartedIdidn'tevenlookatthenumbers,itwasn'ttill5minsinwhenitbeepedthatIlookeddownandhadbeendoing220230forthefirst5mins.Imadeacoupleofcadencedropsfrom110to100foralittlerest,andacoupleofhighpoweredeffortstowardstheendtoseeifIcouldholdthemtoraisetheaverageabit.
AttheendthesoftwaresuggestsyournewFTPandLTHR,youcanclicktosettothose,ordismissandchangemanuallyinyourowntime.Ijustchangedminethereandthen.
It'sweird,eventhoughit'sthesamebikeandi'veriddenthetrainerplenty,IfeellikeI'mstillgettingusedtodoingbiggereffortsindoorsusingTR.Ialwaysuseditforeasierstuff,anddidhardworkontheroad.IwasuncomfortablewiththeintenseheatandsweatingthatIdon'tgetoutdoors.
Theextra40Wshouldmakeadifferencetotherestofthetraininganyway..gladIexperimentedabit,andI'drecommendrunningthetests23timesinthefirst1012ridesasyouadjusttomakesureyourworkingoffofthebesteffortyoucangiveduringthetest.IknowI'dbeenholdingbadabitsoIdidn'thurtmyself.
It'spossibleyourpositionwasholdingyoubackabit,minecertainlywasontheroadatleast.I'mhopingitshowsonTRtoo.
You'reprobablyright.Iwasneverfullyrelaxedandabletofocusonpowerbefore.
ThelasttestIdidstartedatmidnight,andI'dbeenoutforanhourearlierthatevening.Soalotofdifferentfactors.ButuntiltodayIdidn'treallyappreciatehowimportanthavingyourbikepositionrightis.Badpositionseemstobeonethingridingonatrainerseemstohighlight,thatridingontheroaddoesn'tsomuch,whenyoucanholdbackormovetocounteractit.
Posted:WedAug15,201219:49pmbyJGSIJustfinishedthe'Paincave'.It'saSpinnervalvideoone,butIjustdroppedEurosport2011LBLmp4intothewindowandgotonwithit.Iblewcompletelyononeofthebricks,butthatasaresultofyesterdayseffortsmorethan
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likely.
Iwasgoingtosuggestfurtherifyouchangebikesetup,makesureitdontcompromiseyouractualroadriding.
Posted:WedAug15,201220:50pmbyGiantMike[quote="dw300"]Here'stheworkout..http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73109
I'vegonefromanFTPof172,upto212,whichgetsmetoapowertoweightratioof3W/kg..icanfinallysayI'mapropercyclistnow.Could'vedonewithafan![/quote]
I'dtakethosefigureswithapinchofsalt.
172Wto212WisanFTPimprovementof23%whichsoundshigh.
AndanabsoluteFTPof212Wsoundslow.Mywife,whoridesaboutonceaweekhasanFTPof210W.QuiteafewoftheTRworkoutsseemtohaveverylowFTPs.
Posted:WedAug15,201221:16pmbydw300
GiantMikewrote:I'dtakethosefigureswithapinchofsalt.
172Wto212WisanFTPimprovementof23%whichsoundshigh.
AndanabsoluteFTPof212Wsoundslow.Mywife,whoridesaboutonceaweekhasanFTPof210W.QuiteafewoftheTRworkoutsseemtohaveverylowFTPs.
Didyoureadmypost,andtherestofthethread?Isaiddidn'tgiveallIcouldthefirsttimearound,andthattherewerelotsofotherfactorscontributing.
212Wislow.ButI'manovicecyclistofaboutayearwithnotrainingoverthewinter.I'm150lbs,maybeyourwifeisbiggerandmorepowerfulthanme,orhasyearsofcyclingunderherbelt.
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Youweren'tsittingwatchingbothmyefforts,soI'lltakeyouradvicewithapinchofsalt,sinceIknowyoudon'tknowallthedetails.Icantellyou'resimplycynicalbecauseasmanypeopleseemtobewhenquotingvirtualpowerinsteadofactualpower..butwe'veallacknowledgedthatthefigureswon'tbepinpointaccurate,wearesimplyusingittocheckforimprovement.
Posted:WedAug15,201221:47pmbyGiantMikeWhoops,didn'tmeantoupsetyou.
Posted:WedAug15,201222:14pmbydw300
GiantMikewrote:Whoops,didn'tmeantoupsetyou.
Lol..don'tworry,Ididn'tcry.MaybeIwasabitpreciousovermyhardwork..itwasthelactatetalking!
Posted:WedAug15,201223:34pmbyNatePearson
JGSIwrote:ah,yestheopenroad..I'llremindmeselfwhatitislikeonSunday..my
penultimateraceoftheseason
QuestionforNate:
Mypowerfiguresfortempo/sweetspotandthresholdseemaboutright,buttheHRnumbersseemabitoff.Forinstance,itisgivingmythresholdat158whereIamsustainingaround170.WillthisselfcorrectwhenInextdoaFTP'test'orcanIcalibrate?TheinitialFTPtestwasdonewithoutaHRstraptoclarify.Idon'treallywanttorepeatanothertestprotocolsosoonifIdon'thaveto.WhenIrace,Idon'thavepower,theonly'number'IhaveonthebikeisHRandifIdo1andgowithabreakordoalongoneonthelastlap(Ihavenosprint),itwould
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beextremelyusefultoridetothecorrectpacewiththeknowledgegainedfromtheTRfigures.
Yesyoucan.IwouldtaketheHRdatathatyougainindoorsatacertainpoweroutputthenverifyitoutdoorsandmakesureit"feelsright".Sometimesindoor/outdoorheartratedatacanvary.
Posted:ThuAug16,201209:55ambywhojanicanackerovDWnicerideandlotbetterresult!!!.I`mgladthebikesetupissuesaresortedish?Ithinkyouneedabigfanforsure.Usingafanwillkeepyoucoolerhelpingyouproducethegoods!!
Posted:ThuAug16,201214:17pmbyGiantMike
JGSIwrote:WhenIrace,Idon'thavepower,theonly'number'IhaveonthebikeisHRandifIdo1andgowithabreakordoalongoneonthelastlap(Ihavenosprint),itwouldbeextremelyusefultoridetothecorrectpacewiththeknowledgegainedfromtheTRfigures.
Withoutwantingtotreadonanybody'stoes,thecorrectpacetoridewithabreakis'ashardasyouhavetotomakeitstickoruntilyoufallofftheback'.Thecorrectpacetoridealongoneis'ashardasyoucanforthedistancelefttorun'.I'dsuggestbotharebestdoneonfeelratherthanHR.
The3045secdelayinHRcomparedtoeffortmeansthatjudgingeffortbyHRinahighpowerscenarioisimpossible.OnaTTit'spossible,buteventhenthefirstmileorsoisdoneonfeelratherthanHRwhilethebodycatchesupwiththeeffort.
WhenIraceIhavepowerandHRdataavailable.IdoitallonfeelandusethedatatoworkoutwhathappenedaftertheraceandwhereIneedtotrain.
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FeelfreetoignoreanythingI'vewritten.
Posted:ThuAug16,201214:23pmbyamaferanga
GiantMikewrote:WhenIraceIhavepowerandHRdataavailable.IdoitallonfeelandusethedatatoworkoutwhathappenedaftertheraceandwhereIneedtotrain.
This.
IdohaveaveragepowerandNPdisplayedinracesthoughandIcheckoccasionallyusuallyjusttoconfirmthatmyeffortmatchesthenumber.Italwaysdoes.I'venevertriedtousepowertopacemyselfinarace.UsingHRwouldbenearnonsensical.
Posted:ThuAug16,201222:06pmbyNatePearson
amaferangawrote:
GiantMikewrote:WhenIraceIhavepowerandHRdataavailable.IdoitallonfeelandusethedatatoworkoutwhathappenedaftertheraceandwhereIneedtotrain.
This.
IdohaveaveragepowerandNPdisplayedinracesthoughandIcheckoccasionallyusuallyjusttoconfirmthatmyeffortmatchesthenumber.Italwaysdoes.I'venevertriedtousepowertopacemyselfinarace.UsingHRwouldbenearnonsensical.
Yah,power(andevenmoresoheartrate)duringaroadraceorcritisprettyuseless.Powerisvaryhelpfulforpostraceanalysis.
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PowerduringracesisonlyreallywellsuitedforTTs,andevenmoresoduringtriathlonssinceyouhavetorideabitunderyourmaxinordertorunwell.
It'sgreatfortrainingthough!
Posted:FriAug17,201201:43ambydw300I'mthinkingofdoingthistoday(Fri)..Clouds Rest
Haveanyofyouguystriedit?Howdiditgo?
I'mlookingtodevelopabitmorepowerinmyVO2zoneforbetterStravaSniping!
Posted:FriAug17,201205:34ambyJGSI
NatePearsonwrote:
amaferangawrote:
GiantMikewrote:WhenIraceIhavepowerandHRdataavailable.IdoitallonfeelandusethedatatoworkoutwhathappenedaftertheraceandwhereIneedtotrain.
This.
IdohaveaveragepowerandNPdisplayedinracesthoughandIcheckoccasionallyusuallyjusttoconfirmthatmyeffortmatchesthenumber.Italwaysdoes.I'venevertriedtousepowertopacemyselfinarace.UsingHRwouldbenearnonsensical.
Yah,power(andevenmoresoheartrate)duringaroadraceorcritisprettyuseless.Powerisvaryhelpfulforpostraceanalysis.
PowerduringracesisonlyreallywellsuitedforTTs,andevenmoresoduring
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triathlonssinceyouhavetorideabitunderyourmaxinordertorunwell.
It'sgreatfortrainingthough!
Welllads,youmayjusthaveto'indulge'methistime.idohaveagameplanonSunday.Ihaveracedonfeelthelast20racesthisseasongotnowhere.Idon'texpectanyhelpwhatsoeverwhenItrytomakeabreak.iexpecttobepulledbackbydumbassesbringingthebunchbackandnotbridging.ofcourse,ifagoodbreakgoesandIhavetobridgemyself,Iaintgoingtopayanyattentiontoanynumbersandjustwork.ofcourse,Imayjustsitinfor55miles...
thataboutcoversallthebases,Ithink
Posted:FriAug17,201215:16pmbyNatePearson
dw300wrote:I'mthinkingofdoingthistoday(Fri)..Clouds Rest
Haveanyofyouguystriedit?Howdiditgo?
I'mlookingtodevelopabitmorepowerinmyVO2zoneforbetterStravaSniping!
I'vedonethatone.Itwasgoodforme,Ididn'thavetolowertheintensityatall.I'mbetteratshortintervalsthanlongerintervalsthough.
Checkouttheaccompanyingvideothattellsyouwhattolookforandhowtodothisworkout:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqjMZo3_2dU
Posted:FriAug17,201217:08pmbyJGSI
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The2hourbarriersmashed...http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73535
Posted:FriAug17,201217:19pmbydw300
NatePearsonwrote:
dw300wrote:I'mthinkingofdoingthistoday(Fri)..Clouds Rest
Haveanyofyouguystriedit?Howdiditgo?
I'mlookingtodevelopabitmorepowerinmyVO2zoneforbetterStravaSniping!
I'vedonethatone.Itwasgoodforme,Ididn'thavetolowertheintensityatall.I'mbetteratshortintervalsthanlongerintervalsthough.
Checkouttheaccompanyingvideothattellsyouwhattolookforandhowtodothisworkout:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqjMZo3_2dU
Justfinishedit.Ihadwatchedthevideolastnight,soIknewtheprincipleofleastworktogetyoubreathingyourhardest.Ididn'tadjusttheintensitythough,itfeltaboutright,I'mnotsureIcouldhavedonemuchmore,butlessmightnothavehadmeworkingashard.TheBillatsweretooshorttoreallyknowwheremyHRwouldhavelevelledoutat,atthatlevel,theypeakedatabout170175attheBillatsattheendofeachset.
http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73531
Butfeltgood(tough),andsetsomepowerrecords,andlegswerestartingtogetprettyfatiguedattheendofthelastset.
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Posted:FriAug17,201217:23pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
Dentisttripsandworkhaveheldmebackabitthisweek YettostartInterBase
wk2
Posted:FriAug17,201217:32pmbydw300
JGSIwrote:The2hourbarriersmashed...http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73535
Goodjobman.Howwastheexperience?
Posted:FriAug17,201217:45pmbydw300
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:Dentisttripsandworkhaveheldmebackabitthis
week YettostartInterBasewk2
Ifyou'venottrainedatallandhadafewextrarecoverydaysyoucouldtrythisweeksworkoutsat105%,youshouldbegoodforitintermsorrestandmotivation.
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Posted:FriAug17,201217:53pmbyT.M.H.N.E.T
dw300wrote:
T.M.H.N.E.Twrote:Dentisttripsandworkhaveheldmebackabitthis
week YettostartInterBasewk2
Ifyou'venottrainedatallandhadafewextrarecoverydaysyoucouldtrythisweeksworkoutsat105%,youshouldbegoodforitintermsorrestandmotivation.
Irodeontuesdaybutthedentistbatteredmeyesterdayandeatingisastruggle,pureedFTL.I
wentfrom201250FTPtooso105%maybedifficult
Posted:FriAug17,201218:01pmbyJGSI
dw300wrote:
JGSIwrote:The2hourbarriersmashed...http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73535
Goodjobman.Howwastheexperience?
Imentionedbefore,bikesetuphastobespotonandstillitwillpinchabit.Anyworkoutmorethan1hour,2towels,changeofteeshirt,andformeIneedtohavesomecyclingontheTV...Ididthistoa2hourdownloadoffYToftheTourofFlanders2012.Evenwithafaneverythinggetssodden,butthistimethatincludedevenmysocksandshoes.Doitwithnooneinearshotas2hoursofaturbodronewillprobablysendanyoneelseinsane.Perkins,Ididontheinnerringasitisbesttohaveadecentcadencegoingandkeepinginthatendurance'rideallday'zone..exceptontheturbo,youcan'trideallday!TheHRtracewentskewyinthemiddle,itgotbetterwhenIdidaquickchangeoftee.
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Posted:FriAug17,201219:33pmbywhojanicanackerov
JGSIwrote:
dw300wrote:
JGSIwrote:The2hourbarriersmashed...http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73535
Goodjobman.Howwastheexperience?
Imentionedbefore,bikesetuphastobespotonandstillitwillpinchabit.Anyworkoutmorethan1hour,2towels,changeofteeshirt,andformeIneedtohavesomecyclingontheTV...Ididthistoa2hourdownloadoffYToftheTourofFlanders2012.Evenwithafaneverythinggetssodden,butthistimethatincludedevenmysocksandshoes.Doitwithnooneinearshotas2hoursofaturbodronewillprobablysendanyoneelseinsane.Perkins,Ididontheinnerringasitisbesttohaveadecentcadencegoingandkeepinginthatendurance'rideallday'zone..exceptontheturbo,youcan'trideallday!TheHRtracewentskewyinthemiddle,itgotbetterwhenIdidaquickchangeoftee.
YeahwasarealeffortthatLikeIsaiditdeservesacake!!
Posted:FriAug17,201219:44pmbyJGSI
itwere#cheesecake#andscoffed1/2ofit!Weatherturninggoodtomorrwlateronforadecentride.....outside!
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Posted:FriAug17,201219:55pmbywhojanicanackerovWellI`mdoingtheRidewithbradonSunday160kmhttp://www.bradleywigginsfoundation.org ... ?Itemid=28
SoI`mnotoutridingtomorrowandIthinkTRmaybegivenamissalso.Maybeit`sbesttoresttheleg`sforthosebighillsonsunday
Posted:FriAug17,201220:03pmbyJGSIWell,IamracingonSunday.imoifyouarefeelingwell,thentogetoutandspinthelegsroundforanhourorsowontdamage.Iemphasise'spin'.pickaneasyrouteandridewith
easyeffortaswell..toomuchismadeof'resting'legs..itsstillsummer!
Posted:FriAug17,201220:08pmbywhojanicanackerovMaybeyourrightbutIwonthavethetimetohittheroadasIhavesomeworktogetthrough!!IcouldjustdoaneasytempoorsweetspotthingonTRthough?SorryaboutallthequestionsbutI`mjusttryingtogagehowwellI`mdoingformyageandtimecycletraining.Sohowoldareyouhowlonghaveyoubeenracingandwhatcatareyou?
Thanks....OhandgoodluckinyourraceIhopeyoudishoutsomepain!!
Posted:FriAug17,201220:40pmbyJGSI
whojanicanackerovwrote:MaybeyourrightbutIwonthavethetimetohittheroadasIhavesomeworktogetthrough!!IcouldjustdoaneasytempoorsweetspotthingonTRthough?SorryaboutallthequestionsbutI`mjusttryingtogagehowwellI`mdoingformyageandtimecycletraining.Sohowoldareyouhowlonghaveyoubeenracingandwhatcatareyou?
Thanks....OhandgoodluckinyourraceIhopeyoudishoutsomepain!!
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TrySteamboat..effortlevelshouldbejustrighttogetthelegsturning..itsstatedgoalistoperfectpedallingtechnique.andme?justold,acoupleofyearsawayfrom60..soraceLVRCandTLIIspenttoomanyyearsawayfromthesportandit'sbeenalonghaulgettingthecyclingfitnessbackoverthepast5years.Racingisaprettygoodtestofyour'levels'butitisnotthebeallandendall...ifonSundayyoucankeepupagoodpaceonaLancastrian100milersportive..wellyou'llknowontheday!
IhopeBradrideswithyou!
Posted:SatAug18,201210:33ambywhojanicanackerovHeyJGSIyourdoingprettywellthenasIthoughtyouwereayoungwhippersnapper!!
Iendedupridingthe2/3oftheCloudsresthttp://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73620Tryingtosavesomejuiceinthelegsforthebigonetomorrow.ItwillbemyfirsteverSportiveandwithnearly2000rider`stakingpartit`sgoingtobequiteanexperience.IbetIcan`tsleeptonightfromalltheexcitement;)BythewayforthosewhoarethinkingoftryingTRit`sagreatbitofkit!!
Posted:SatAug18,201212:50pmbydw300
whojanicanackerovwrote:HeyJGSIyourdoingprettywellthenasIthoughtyouwereayoungwhippersnapper!!
Iendedupridingthe2/3oftheCloudsresthttp://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73620Tryingtosavesomejuiceinthelegsforthebigonetomorrow.ItwillbemyfirsteverSportiveandwithnearly2000rider`stakingpartit`sgoingtobequiteanexperience.IbetIcan`tsleeptonightfromalltheexcitement;)BythewayforthosewhoarethinkingoftryingTRit`sagreatbitofkit!!
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Lol..Islept1hrbeforemy1stsportive.Idon'tthinkit'llreallyaffectyouthatmuch,butyou'llknowallaboutitwithinanhourofgettingoffthebike..allyou'llwanttodoissleep!
Enjoythesportive.Talktoasmanypeopleasyoucan.Startnearthefront!
Posted:SatAug18,201219:22pmbywhojanicanackerovCheersDWallmykitisreadyforthemorningI`vegotmynumberandI`mreadytoroll.
Posted:SatAug18,201222:39pmbydw300Itriedmynewpositionontheroadtoday,it'sdefinitelyabetterposition,buttheproblemontheroadcomparedtothetraineristhatthebumpsandvibrationmeanIendupperchedonthepointyendofthesaddle.Doesanyonehaveanycreativeideastohelpmeslidearoundonmyshinysaddleabitless?
It'sanOEMsaddle,soI'mthinkingabouttakingsomesandpapertoittoseeifIcangiveitalittletexture.
Posted:SunAug19,201202:38ambybigdaveskinnytyreIthoughtIwouldgiveTRagoasTacxtrainersoftwarecanbeabittemperamental.
Setupwasextremelyeasy,IsetupasaTacxBushidoat1%slopethenadjustedtheslopeonthetrainersothattheBushido'spoweroutputandtheTRvirtualpowerweresimilar(0.6%slopeworkedforme).Ithendidthe2x8minutetest.ThevirtualpowerandtheBushidoreadingswerewithin5wattsthroughoutmostoftheworkout,athigherpoweroutputs(around400W)thegapwidenedslightly810WwiththeBushidobeingthelowernumber.
I'mwellawarethatTacxpoweroutputsarenotthemostaccurate(withinabout5%ofaPowertaporSRM)butIdofindthattheyareprettyconsistentsoI'mhappytotrainwiththem.
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I'mpod1976onTrainerRoadandquitehappywithanestimatedFTPofaround335Wwhichisabout15WlowerthanmymeasuredFTPfromwhenIracedregularlyandhadacoach3or4yearsago(andIwas1214Kgheavierthen).
Posted:MonAug20,201215:11pmbywhojanicanackerov
dw300wrote:
whojanicanackerovwrote:HeyJGSIyourdoingprettywellthenasIthoughtyouwereayoungwhippersnapper!!
Iendedupridingthe2/3oftheCloudsresthttp://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/73620Tryingtosavesomejuiceinthelegsforthebigonetomorrow.ItwillbemyfirsteverSportiveandwithnearly2000rider`stakingpartit`sgoingtobequiteanexperience.IbetIcan`tsleeptonightfromalltheexcitement;)BythewayforthosewhoarethinkingoftryingTRit`sagreatbitofkit!!
Lol..Islept1hrbeforemy1stsportive.Idon'tthinkit'llreallyaffectyouthatmuch,butyou'llknowallaboutitwithinanhourofgettingoffthebike..allyou'llwanttodoissleep!
Enjoythesportive.Talktoasmanypeopleasyoucan.Startnearthefront!