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Neutrino-nucleus :Measurements vs. calculations
Petr Vogel, Caltech
Oak Ridge, Aug. 28-29, 2003
Outline: a) review of known weak processes b) successes and difficulties c) unknown but important processes d) why we need to `calibrate’ nuclear structure models
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Note for the web etc. version:
Throughout the selection of references is
rather subjective and incomplete.
Also, to save space, usually only the first author
and year are given. Aficionados will easily
recognize the correct reference.
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• The simplest system – a single nucleon
These two processes are governed by the same
hadronic matrix element:
n p + e- + e (neutron decay)
e + p n + e+ (inverse neutron decay)
Knowing the neutron lifetime, 885.7(0.8), fixes the
cross section for the relevant energies.
The (relatively) small corrections of order E/Mp and
can be accurately evaluated.
(see Vogel & Beacom, Phys. Rev. D60,053003 (1999) and
Kurylov, Ramsey-Musolf & Vogel, Phys.Rev.C67,035502(2003))
In this way the cross section of the inverse neutron decay can
be evaluated with the accuracy of ~0.2%.
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A more complicated system – the deuteronThere are many possible reactions now:
e+ d p + p + e- (CC)
d n + p + (NC)
the corresponding reactions with antineutrinos as well as
p + p d + e + e+ (pp in the Sun)
p + p + e- d + e (pep in the Sun)
For all these reactions all unknown effects can be lumped
together in one unknown parameter L1A (isovector two-body
axial current) that must be fixed experimentally
(calibrating the Sun).
The cross section is of the form
(E) = a(E) + b(E)L1A, where the functions a(E), b(E) are
known, and b(E)L1A contributes ~`a few’ % .
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Fixing the parameter L1A
There are several ways to do this. One can use reactor
data (eCC and NC), solar luminosity + helioseismology,
SNO data, and tritum beta decay. Here is what you get:
reactors: 3.6(5.5) fm3 (Butler,Chen,Vogel)
Helioseismology: 4.8(6.7) fm3 (Brown,Butler,Guenther)
SNO: 4.0(6.3) fm3 (Chen,Heeger,Robertson)
tritium decay: 6.5(2.4) fm3 (Schiavilla et al.)
All these values are consistent, but have rather large
uncertainties. To reduce them substantially, one would
have to measure one of these cross sections to ~1%.
This is very difficult.
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Reaction e12C 12Ng.s.+ e-
This is an example of a process where the cross
section can be evaluated with little uncertainty.
We can use the known 12N and 12B decay rate,
as well as the exclusive capture on 12B and
the M1 formfactor for the excitation of the
analog 1+, T=1 state at 15.11 MeV in 12C.
This fixes the cross section value for (almost)
all energies, for both e and .
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A=12 triad
QMeV
Q= 13.37 MeV
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Experiment and theory agree very well(this reaction can be used for calibration)
Exp.results (in 10-42cm2):
9.4 0.4 0.8 (KARMEN e, 98, DAR)
8.9 0.3 0.9 (LSND e, 01, DAR)
56 8 10 (LSND , 02, DIF)10.8 0.9 0.8 (KARMEN, NC, DAR )
Calculations: 9.3 , 63, 10.5 (CRPA 96) 8.8 , 60.4, 9.8 (shell model, 78) 9.2 , 62.9, 9.9 (EPT , 88)
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Cross section for 12C(12Ngs in 10-42cm2,see Engel et al, Phys. Rev. C54, 2740 (1996)
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e + 12C 12N* + e- (inclusive reaction)
Here the final state is not fixed and not known,
one cannot use (at least not simply as before)
the known weak processes to fix the parameters
of the nuclear models.
The measurement is also more difficult since the
experimental signature is less specific
(units as before 10-42cm2):
4.3 0.4 0.6 (LSND, 01)
5.7 0.6 0.6 (LSND, 97)
5.1 0.6 0.5 (KARMEN, 98)
3.6 2.0 (E225, 92)
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Evaluation of the for inclusive12Ce,e-)N* with DAR spectrum
This is dominated by negative parity multipoles,
calculation becomes more difficult. Here is what
various people get (in 10-42cm2):Kolbe 95 5.9-6.3 CRPA
Singh 98 6.5 local density app.
Kolbe 99 5.4-5.6 CRPA, frac. filling
Hayes 00 3.8-4.1 SM, 3hextrapolated
Volpe 00 8.3 SM, 3hVolpe 00 9.1 QRPA
The agreement between different calculations, and with the
experiment, is less than perfect.
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True challenge, inclusive12C()N* with DIF
Exp: LSND 02, (10.6 0.3 1.8)x10-40cm2
Calc: 17.5 – 17.8 (Kolbe, CRPA, 99)
16.6 1.4 (Singh, loc.den.app.,98)
15.2 (Volpe, SM, 00)
20.3 (Volpe, QRPA, 00)
13.8 (Hayes, SM, 00)
Thus all calculations overestimate the cros section, with SM results noticeably smaller than CRPA or QRPA. The reason for that remains a mystery.
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But CRPA describes quite well electronscattering with similar momentum transfer
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Moreover, in another case (and a bit lower energies) CRPA (Kolbe) and SM (Haxton 87)
agree quite well.
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CRPA angular distribution (which at low energy also agrees with SM)
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Let me now show some calculated forseveral cases of practical interest (ICARUS).These could be, therefore, used as both tests
of calculations and basis for detector design etc.
40Ar(e,e-)40K*, and40Ar(e,e+)40Cl* RPA
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CC cross section for e (T=4 MeV) on 52-60Fetotal (full circles), n emission (empty), p (crosses)
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Reaction e,e-)127Xebound states
This was proposed by Haxton,88 as a radiochemical
solar detection reaction, similar to 37Cl. The cross
section, unlike 37Cl, was based only on difficult calculations.
To calibrate it, an experiment with DAR
spectrum was performed at LAMPF, giving stat)(syst))x10-40cm2 (Distel 02)
Calculations, performed earlier (Engel 94) gave 2.1 (for gA=1.0) or 3.1 (for gA=1.26)
The agreement is good, but the experimental uncertainty
is large, and the issue of gA renormalization remains
unresolved.
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Charged current cross section on Pb
Lead based detectors are considered for SN detection.
There are no experimental data, so the detector design
has to rely on calculated cross sections.
Shell model treatment is impossible for such heavy nucleus,
so various forms of RPA and other approximations are used.
The spread of the calculated values is often treated (for no
logical reason, but nevertheless) as a measure of uncertainty
of the calculated values.
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Calculated CC cross sections fore on 208Pb (in 10-40 cm2)
For DAR: Kolbe & Langanke, 01 36 Suzuki & Sagawa, 03 32For FD: T=6 MeV 8 MeV 10 MeV 14 25 35 Volpe 02 11 25 45 Kolbe 01 Considerably larger were obtained by Fuller et al. 99;reasons for that overestimate are well understood, seeEngel et al. 03 where the are close to Volpe 02
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CC on 208Pb calculated with SKIII (solid) and SkO+ (dashed) interactions, in fm2. From Engel et al. 03
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Conclusions:
1) Comparison between calculated and measured cross sections on complex
nuclei is sporadic or nonexistent. Reliable and accurate data are needed2) Different calculations agree on a ~30% level for the energies relevant to SNS or Supernovae. 3) However, if some (even small) number of parameters could be adjusted (as for the
12C 12Ng.s.) a much better description will likely result.
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Here are few slides I showed at the
ORLAND workshop three years ago.
They remain basically relevant for SNS2.
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(or SNS2)
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(or SNS2)
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(or SNS2)
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(or SNS2)
(the smaller is rate is more correct)