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Dear Ko Zaw Naing,
Thanks for the comment.
I think below are the things we should learn first and foremost.
1. I believe the first thing we must learn is that “Truth can be more than one”. A good
example is an old Indian saying “Looking at half full glass; it is correct to say “half full”
and also correct to say as “half empty”.
It depends on the way you look at glass.
By this, we can appreciate flexibility. DASSK has said that “Flexibility is not a weakness
and rigidity is not strength”
2. Truth can be change with time, circumstances or etc. Buddhist philosophy “ Karlan,
Daythan, Eigun Daman” fit to this concept.
This can weaken the rigidity and encourage accepting changes and modifications.
3. Negotiating or Compromising does not mean that one party should give up all to the
other party. To learn about Non-Zero Sum theory is very important.
I have noticed that we always talk about unity and solidarity but very seldom achieve
them. The reason is, the idea of unity for us is very simple. One party must accept all the
conditions set by the other party.
4. Most of the time, we have been subjugated by the most aggressive, outspoken and a rigid
single person or a small minority. The silent majority was never empowered.
We usually believe that “rigidity is strength” rigidity means power and strong believer.
With best regards & fraternity, Tin Win Akbar, Federation of Workers' Union of the Burmese Citizens (in Japan), Phone/Fax : : 0(81)276-38-1036 Mobile : : 0(81)80-3443-2447 Face book : http://www.facebook.com/tinwinakbar
Ko Tin Win Akbar
Thank you very much for posting and sharing the interview transcript. It is a real time
communication. "I can't say for certain what will happen and what will not happen.
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I hope that there will be no more violent incidents of any kind in the future, and I certainly hope
that I won't be put back under house arrest, but I cannot guarantee that, because I'm not the one
who makes those decisions." This is exactly an illustration of the condition and the everyday
lives people live under the arbitrary will (total power) of the regime.
A life of a people depends on the will of a dictator like a slave depends the will of his/her master.
This is a potent concept we all should try to enlighten the minds of the people that they are living
a slave life under the military regime. Education, awareness raising and discussions are the ways
to do so.
The other concepts I picked up reading the interview transcript is 'disagreement', 'reconciliation'
and 'deliberation'. These are the strangers to our values. It was one reason Daw Suu was calling
for a value change. It seems to me we Burmese are still living in the dark age (like those time in
Europe before the enlightenment age (renaissance). We are not used to 'disagreement', 'debate'
and 'reason'.
To get used to these concepts, we all have to change many of our values and traditions. With
regard to knowledge and reason, no one person and no one authority (no matter how well-
established and prestigious they are) are immune to criticisms. It is a way that we all learn to
grow.
We need a replica of the European enlightenment era in Burma now. Japan in the 17/18th
centuries was a good example. I do believe Daw Suu is trying to enlighten the people and the
military.
We all should prepare ourselves to help make it happen.
Best regards Zaw Naing Australia -----
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Visit Your Group Quoting Tin Win Akbar <[email protected]>: > Dear Ko Zaw Naing, > I just want to say that I absolutely agree with you. > I remember once DASSK said “doing politics with incitement is detrimental, > politics must be done with enlightenment―. Profoundly wise words... Some of us engage in politics for personal gains, especially US Politicians!!! Most burmese often join demonstrations in US to grain asylum and once done, never show up again.
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coban > I have been witnessing that most of us are doing our political activities > with sentiment or emotion. > Sticking to or standing on principle is another important element we are > missing. > > > With best regards & fraternity, > > Tin Win Akbar, > Federation of Workers' Union of the Burmese Citizens (in Japan), > > Phone/Fax : : 0(81)276-38-1036 > Mobile : : 0(81)80-3443-2447 > Face book : http://www.facebook.com/tinwinakbar > > > > > >
Dear Ko Zaw Naing,
I just want to say that I absolutely agree with you.
I remember once DASSK said “doing politics with incitement is detrimental, politics must be
done with enlightenment”.
I have been witnessing that most of us are doing our political activities with sentiment or
emotion.
Sticking to or standing on principle is another important element we are missing.
With best regards & fraternity,
Tin Win Akbar,
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Federation of Workers' Union of the Burmese Citizens (in Japan),
Phone/Fax : : 0(81)276-38-1036
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Ko Htun Aung Gyaw
It is interesting you mentioned "personal worship". I do not understand where you got that
impression. My earlier comments related only to the leadership. Leadership and personality are
two different concepts. I am not a member of and am not affiliated to the NLD. I do not wish to
be defensive further.
Anyhow, as everyone expected the regime has rejected the lawsuit. They have not and will not
hear the case. This is exactly an illustration of total power displayed by the regime. The military
regime is using it (total power) over the people.
You mentioned we must lend our support. What kinds of support do you have in mind?
I want to think beyond just writing commentaries. This is how I envisaged the kinds of support
to show to this course of actions (the lawsuit) led by Daw Suu and the NLD. We should support
this action by helping advocate, educate and raising awareness of the people that power is a
deadly dangerous concept, especially the absolute power possessed and continually misused by
the regime. To be subjected to the absolute power (without any limits) is to live a life of a
slave. To live under the military regime possessing that kind of absolute power is to be enslaved
by them. That is modern what I see as modern definition of being a slave. By definition, to be
subjected to an absolute power (or discretionary power) is to live a life of not knowing what will
happen to them (the people) and not knowing what to expect. This is happening to everyday
lives of the people. If we can convince the people that they are living slave lives under the
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thumb of military regime, they will be provoked to think. This is how we can think strategically.
But we can be (I would say we are) complacent that people already knew, so there will be no
gains in educating and raising awareness. The truth is we have never tried.
There are many ways to advocate, educate and raise awareness. There are many examples to
demonstrate how the people live slave lives in Burma. The lawsuit (taken by Daw Suu and the
NLD) was one example. There were no real and tangible supports. Many people talked about
superficial and artificial supports. Where are the real supports and real actions?
I know there are no mechanisms for people (particularly outside Burma) to provide their
supports. That is what we lack and that is what we need to work to build the mechanisms so
people can participate to show real supports with real actions.
If “not knowing” to be defined as ignorance. The only way to overcome that ignorance is to do
the opposite, that is to educate.
Truthfully
Zaw Naing
Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: Htun Gyaw <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:27
Subject: Re: [Democracy_forBurma] Analysis on Burma's Past and Present
To: [email protected], [email protected],
Cc: D4B 4 B <[email protected]>, [email protected],
Student congress <[email protected]>, Burma Digest
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> Dear Zaw Naing,
> > Thank you for your comment but for me we do not need to prove that rule of law doesn't
exist in Burma, the whole world already knows about it. We don't need to prove it by suing
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SPDC. SPDC announced that NLD is not a legal political party but we, Burmese people are still
accepting NLD as a legal party and recognize it as the people's party. We do not need SPDC’s
approval. If they do not recognize NLD as a legal party, so be it. We have to move forward. > > My point is NLD has a lot to catch up and organize people who are now very enthusiastic
about Daw ASSK and are willing to follow. I want her to seize the moment with the current
activities such as the invite to all political parties, which contested and lost in the 2010
election. Also it is very important to form democratic alliances because it is crucial to unite
political parties in this heated moment. > > In addition, we need to support her with a clear vision but not as a blind supporter. We
need to point out specific facts if we see is not right, it is our duty. If something is wrong the
leader should know about it because no one is perfect, we all are human. Daw Suu is an
outspoken person and she is willing to accept new ideas and constructive criticism that is why I
respect her. If you do not accept constructive criticism, there is no hope for democratic value and
principle. If that is the case we will be the same as the SPDC regime. But if we blindly support
her without any comment or criticism, it will not benefit for our cause nor Daw Suu’s. I strongly
believe that it is our duty not to make personal worshiping, which will not make a person become
a great leader but rather create another dictator. Blind supporters will not make a democratic
country, only open-minded people will. > > Regards
> Htun Aung Gyaw
> 607-266-8942
> USA
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> From: Zaw Wynn <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> Cc: D4B 4 B <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Student
congress <[email protected]>; Burma Digest <[email protected]>; DAB OFFICE <[email protected]>; FreeASSK e_FreeASSK <[email protected]>; htet gyaw
<[email protected]>; [email protected]; koko Oo <[email protected]>; soe shein <[email protected]>; aung htwe <[email protected]>; Aung Thu Nyein
<[email protected]>; soe shein <[email protected]>; [email protected]; ABSDF (HQ) <[email protected]>; Khaing Soe Naing Aung <[email protected]>; Soe Win Than
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Khin Kyaw Han <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 9:54:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Democracy_forBurma] Analysis on Burma's Past and Present > >
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> Dear Ko Htun Aung Gyaw > > Thanks for passing and sharing your analytical views. In relation to Daw Suu's roles, I agree
with you that we all must support her roles in reconstructing the country. In addition to that I
want to further suggest that we all follow her leadership. Leadership is not about her and her
personality but it is about what she does. We can carefully watch what she does and follow the
course she leads. > > This brings me to the point where I disagree with you, particularly in relation to the court
action she is taking now. I think you missed a point by saying that this action contradicts her call
for national reconciliation. An outcome (of win or lose) from the court action is not so much a
point. Beside nobody is expecting she would prevail in this lawsuit. The point is about the rule
of law. The day after her release, she talked to the people, especially about the rule of as one of
the fundamental aspects of a democracy. She also said she calls for national reconciliation. But
she still must point out mistakes in current court systems, how the court system incredibly flaws
and lacks impartiality and independence from the junta. She is trying to make an important point
about how people in democratic societies conduct their court systems independently from their
government. > > This illustrates what she has consistently said "if you want democracy, you must act
democracy". She is providing leadership in that respect. She can not do and act democracy
alone to bring democracy. She wants all people to act democracy. Together, we can achieve
democracy. > > Truthfully
> Zaw Naing
> Australia > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> From: Htun Gyaw <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 15:42
> Subject: [Democracy_forBurma] Analysis on Burma's Past and Present [2 Attachments]
> To: D4B 4 B <[email protected]>, [email protected],
Student congress <[email protected]>, Burma Digest
<[email protected]>, DAB OFFICE <[email protected]>, FreeASSK
e_FreeASSK <[email protected]>, htet gyaw <[email protected]>,
[email protected], koko Oo <[email protected]>
> Cc: soe shein <[email protected]>, aung htwe <[email protected]>, Aung Thu Nyein
<[email protected]>, soe shein <[email protected]>, [email protected], "ABSDF
(HQ)" <[email protected]>, Khaing Soe Naing Aung <[email protected]>, Soe Win
Than <[email protected]>, [email protected], Burma Campaign
<[email protected]>, Coban Tun <[email protected]>, dassk-
[email protected], Tun Nyein <[email protected]>, Reza Uddin
<[email protected]>, U Khin Kyaw Han <[email protected]>
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> >
>
From: Zaw Wynn <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]; [email protected];
> Cc: D4B 4 B <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Student
congress <[email protected]>; Burma Digest <[email protected]>; DAB
OFFICE <[email protected]>; FreeASSK e_FreeASSK <[email protected]>; htet gyaw <[email protected]>; [email protected]; koko Oo <[email protected]>; soe shein
<[email protected]>; aung htwe <[email protected]>; Aung Thu Nyein
<[email protected]>; soe shein <[email protected]>; [email protected]; ABSDF (HQ) <[email protected]>; Khaing Soe Naing Aung <[email protected]>; Soe Win Than
<[email protected]>; [email protected]; Burma Campaign <[email protected]>; Coban Tun <[email protected]>; dassk-
[email protected]; Tun Nyein <[email protected]>; Reza Uddin <[email protected]>; U
Khin Kyaw Han <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 9:54:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Democracy_forBurma] Analysis on Burma's Past and Present > >
> Dear Ko Htun Aung Gyaw > > Thanks for passing and sharing your analytical views. In relation to Daw Suu's roles, I agree
with you that we all must support her roles in reconstructing the country. In addition to that I
want to further suggest that we all follow her leadership. Leadership is not about her and her
personality but it is about what she does. We can carefully watch what she does and follow the
course she leads. > > This brings me to the point where I disagree with you, particularly in relation to the court
action she is taking now. I think you missed a point by saying that this action contradicts her call
for national reconciliation. An outcome (of win or lose) from the court action is not so much a
point. Beside nobody is expecting she would prevail in this lawsuit. The point is about the rule
of law. The day after her release, she talked to the people, especially about the rule of as one of
the fundamental aspects of a democracy. She also said she calls for national reconciliation. But
she still must point out mistakes in current court systems, how the court system incredibly flaws
and lacks impartiality and independence from the junta. She is trying to make an important point
about how people in democratic societies conduct their court systems independently from their
government. > > This illustrates what she has consistently said "if you want democracy, you must act
democracy". She is providing leadership in that respect. She can not do and act democracy
alone to bring democracy. She wants all people to act democracy. Together, we can achieve
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democracy. > > Truthfully
> Zaw Naing
> Australia
----- Original Message -----
> From: Htun Gyaw <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 15:42
> Subject: [Democracy_forBurma] Analysis on Burma's Past and Present [2 Attachments]
> To: D4B 4 B <[email protected]>, [email protected],
Student congress <[email protected]>, Burma Digest
<[email protected]>, DAB OFFICE <[email protected]>, FreeASSK
e_FreeASSK <[email protected]>, htet gyaw <[email protected]>,
[email protected], koko Oo <[email protected]>
> Cc: soe shein <[email protected]>, aung htwe <[email protected]>, Aung Thu Nyein
<[email protected]>, soe shein <[email protected]>, [email protected], "ABSDF
(HQ)" <[email protected]>, Khaing Soe Naing Aung <[email protected]>, Soe Win
Than <[email protected]>, [email protected], Burma Campaign
<[email protected]>, Coban Tun <[email protected]>, dassk-
[email protected], Tun Nyein <[email protected]>, Reza Uddin
<[email protected]>, U Khin Kyaw Han <[email protected]>
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Htun Aung Gyaw
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NLD ၏ Charter97 ၎ ၏ ၊ ။ “ ” ။ ၊ ။ ၌ ၏ ။ NLD ၐ ။ ၍ NLD ၌ ၐ ။ ၐ ၍ ။ ၓ ၍ ၐ ။ ၊ ။
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၂၀၁၀
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(၂) ၊ ၎ ၏ ၐ ၊ ။ ၎ ။ ။
(၃) ။
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။ ။ DKBA ၊ ။
၈၈ ။ NLD ၐ ။
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။ ၊ ၐ ။ ။
။ ၊ ။
။ ။ ၎ ၐ ၎ ၍ ။
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၊ ။
ၐ ၏
ၐ ။ ၐ ၏ ၏ ၏ ၊ ။ ၊ ၊ ။ ၍ ၏ ။ NLD ၌ ၍ ။ ။
၂၀၁၀ ၐ ၊ ၐ ။ ၐ ။ ။ Legitimacy ။ ၒ ။ ၐ ။ ၊ ။
။
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။ ၁၉၉၀ NLD ။ ။ ၁၉၉၀ NLD ၊ NLD ။
ၒ ၊ ၒ ၐ ၈၈ ။ ၊ ။ ။ ၎ ။
။ ။ ။
။ ။၁၉၉၀ ၒ ၂၀၁၀ ၊ ။
? ၐ ။
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။ ။ ။ ၏ ။ ၊ ၐ ။
NLD ။ ၐ ။ ၐ ၊ ၒ ၒ ၒ ။ ၊ ၍ ၏ ( ) NLD ။ ၍ NLD ၍ ။ ။ Civic ၍ Civil Society ၐ ။ ၇၅ % ၓ ၐ ၊ ၓ ၊ ၓ NLD ။ ။
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၍ ၏ ၎ ၏ ။ ၍ ။ ၓ ၊ ။ ၊ ၓ ။ ၍ ။
။ ။ ။ ၐ NLD ။ ၐ ၐ ၐ ။ ။ ၏ ။ ၐ ။
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