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Submission

May 2015

Jonathan Segev (Intel)Slide 1

NGP SG May AgendaDate: 05-12-2015

Name Company Address Phone Email

Jonathan Segev Intel Corporation [email protected]

Authors:

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Submission

IEEE 802.11Next Generation Positioning

Study Group

Vancouver, CanadaMay 10th-15th , 2015

Chair: Jonathan Segev (Intel)Secretary: James Wang (MediaTek, standing-in)

Slide 2 Jonathan Segev (Intel)

May 2015

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Submission Slide 3

This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 NGP (Next Generation Positioning) Study Group agenda for the May session.

Abstract

May 2015

Jonathan Segev (Intel)

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Submission Slide 4Slide 4

Attendance, Voting & Document Status

• Make sure your badges are correct

• Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot

• If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising

• Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member’s area– see Jon Rosdahl – [email protected]

• Cell Phones Silent or Off

Jonathan Segev (Intel)

May 2015

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Submission Slide 5Slide 5

Logistics• Attendance:

– https://imat.ieee.org – You must register before logging attendance.– You must log attendance during each 2 hour session.

• Documentation– http://mentor.ieee.org– Use “NGP” folder for documents relating to the NGP SG activity.

Jonathan Segev (Intel)

May 2015

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Submission

Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all

applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.

Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.

Technical considerations remain primary focus

Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.

Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object.

--------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at

[email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html

See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for

more details.

This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt

March 2015IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee

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Submission

Participants, Patents, and Duty to InformAll participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy.

• Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2]:

• “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents

• “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)

• The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group

• Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged• No duty to perform a patent search

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Patent Related Links

All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.Patent Policy is stated in these sources:

IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylawshttp://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6

IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manualhttp://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sect6.html#6.3

Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/materials.html

Slide #2

If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html

This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt

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Call for Potentially Essential Patents

• If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: • Either speak up now or• Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any

and all such claims as soon as possible or• Cause an LOA to be submitted

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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings

• All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.

• Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.

• Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.• Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical

approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus

• Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.

• Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.• Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.

--------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation:

What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.

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Submission Slide 11

Patent Related LinksAll participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.Patent Policy is stated in these sources:

IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylawshttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manualhttp://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3

Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html

If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html

This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

Jonathan Segev (Intel)

May 2015

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Current IEEE-SA Rules• The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws is available

at: • http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/index.html (HTML version) • http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf (PDF version) 

• The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual is available at: 

• http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/index.html (HTML version) • http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sb_om.pdf (PDF version) 

• The text of the changes made to these documents (approved by SASB/BOG in 2014) can be found at: 

• http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/policy_rev.pdf

• Please read through these changes so that you are familiar with the current P&P.

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Submission Slide 13

Current IEEE 802 Procedures • IEEE 802 Policies & Procedures

– (link to AudCom, approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board Dec 2012) – http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/LMSC.pdf

• IEEE 802 Operations Manual (effective 16 Nov 2012), – http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PNP/approved/IEEE_802_OM_v11.pdf

• IEEE 802 Working Group Policies and Procedures (effective 16 Nov 2012) – http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PNP/approved/IEEE_802_WG_PandP_v12.pdf

• IEEE 802.11 WG OM: (Approved January 2015)– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/14/11-14-0629-10-0000-802-11-operations-manual.docx

Policies and Procedures hierarchy– http://www.ieee802.org/11/Rules/rules.shtml

Jonathan Segev (Intel)

May 2015

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• Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation – http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html

• Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines– http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf

• Link to IEEE Code of Ethics– http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html

• Link to IEEE Patent Policy– http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

Resources – URLs

May 2015

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Submission

Reminder of SG rules

• The Next Generation Positioning SG operates under the rules defined in the 802 LMSC Policy & Procedures subclause 5.3, 802 LMSC Operations Manual subclause 4.3, and 802.11 Operations Manual clause 5– Participation is open to all– 802.11 voting rights is NOT required to attend, participate, motion

and vote on NGP SG matters– All votes on motions require 75% approval to pass

May 2015

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NGP SG Schedule in a Glance

MON TUE WED THU FRI

AM1 NGP NGP NGP

AM2

PM1

PM2

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Agenda Items for the Week

• Patent policy• Approve previous meeting minutes (11-15/474r0). • Approve minutes from telecon (11-15/524r1)• Presentations to inform the SG in its effort to develop PAR & CSD,

such as:• Continued development of the use case documents.• Problems statements• Scope and purpose

• Draft PAR and CSD submissions review.• Approval of PAR and CSD for WG review and approval.• Schedule teleconference times as needed.

May 2015

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Submission List for the weekDocument No. Presenter Title Topic

11-15/0499 Jonathan Segev NGP May 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck

11-15/030 Brian Hart Working draft PAR modifications from telecon approval

PAR

11-15/0262 Brian Hart Working draft CSD modifications from telecon approval

CSD

11-15/0561 Thomas Handte Selected use cases for next generation positioning

Use case

11-15/0629 Igal Kotzer Automotive Use case Use cases

11-15/0634 Ganesh Venkatesan Additions to use case document Use case

11-15/0644 Ganesh Venkatesan preliminary simulation results on AoA accuracy in 2.4/5GHz band

technical

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Submission Slide 19

Meeting Slot #1

May 2015

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Meeting Slot # 1 Agenda

• Call Meeting to Order (1min)• Patent Policy and Logistics (5min)• Call for Submission (3min)• Agenda Setting (5min)• Approval of previous meeting minutes (2min)• Approval of telecon meeting minutes (3min)• Approval of PAR changes presented on telecon (15min)• Approval of CSD changes presented on telecon (15min)• Review of PAR and CSD proposed changes (45min)• Recess

May 2015

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Submission order – Slot 1

Document No. Presenter Title Topic

11-15/0499 Jonathan Segev NGP May 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck

11-15/0030 Brian Hart NGP PAR draft PAR (20min)

11-15/0262 Brian Hart NGP CSD draft CSD (20min)

11-15/0561 Thomas Handte Additional use cases Use case (15min)

11-15/0629 Igal Kotzer Automotive Use case Use cases (10min)

11-15/0634 Ganesh Venkatesan Additions to use case document Use case (30min) as time permits

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Submission

Approval of previous meeting minutes

• March meeting minutes 11-15/0474r0 dated Mar. 12th.

Motion:

We approve document 11-15/474r0 as our meeting minutes for the March meeting.

Move: Praveen Dua

2nd: Allan Zhu

Y: Unanimous consent N: A:

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Approval of telecon meeting minutes

• Meeting minutes of NGP-SG telecon on Apr. 15th 11-15/524r1 dated Apr. 15th.

Motion:

We approve document 11-15/524r1 dated Apr. 15th as our telecon meeting minutes.

Move: Ganesh Vekatesan

2nd: Chenchen Liu

Y: Unanimous consent N: A:

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Submission

Presentations

May 2015

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Submission

Approval of PAR working draft changes

Motion:

We agree to adopt doc. 11-15-030r8 as our working draft for PAR development.

Move: Ganesh Venkatesan

2nd: Brian Hart

Y: Unanimous consent

N:

A:

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Approval of CSD working draft changes

Motion:

We agree to adopt doc. 11-15-262r4 as our working draft for CSD development.

Move: Ganesh Venkatesan

2nd: Brian Hart

Y: Unanimous consent

N:

A:

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Submission

Strawpolls doc # 11-15/629

Strawpoll # 1

Do you agree on adding the “access and security” use case to the working draft use case document?

Y: 18 N: 0 A: 16

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Strawpolls doc # 11-15/629

Strawpoll # 2

Do you agree on adding the “comfort” use case to the working draft use case document?

Y: 13 N: 0 A: 15

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Strawpolls doc # 11-15/629

Strawpoll # 2

Do you agree on adding the “comfort” use case to the working draft use case document?

Y: 13 N: 0 A: 15

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Remainder to do attendance

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Recess

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Submission Slide 32

Meeting Slot #2

May 2015

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Meeting Slot # 2 Agenda

• Call Meeting to Order (1min)• Patent Policy and Logistics (5min)• Approve CSD/PAR to WG approval (10min)• Complete review on additions to use case document (30min)• preliminary simulation results on AoA accuracy in 2.4/5GHz

band (30min)• Review SG timelines and current status (10min)• Telcon schedule (10min)• Adjourn

May 2015

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Submission Slide 34

May 2015

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Presentations for slot # 2

Document No. Presenter Title Topic

11-15/0499 Jonathan Segev NGP May 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck

11-15/0030 Brian Hart NGP PAR draft PAR (10 min)

11-15/0262 Brian Hart NGP CSD draft CSD (10 min)

11-15/634 Ganesh Venkatesan Additions to use case document Use case

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Submission

Motion

• Believing that the PAR contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines,

• Request that the PAR contained in 11-15/030r8 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval to submit to NesCom.

Moved:

2nd:

Results:

Y: N: A:

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Motion

• Believing that the CSD contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE 802 guidelines,

• Request that the CSD contained in 11-15/262r4 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval.

Moved:

2nd:

Results:

Y: N: A:

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Submission

Presentations

May 2015

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May 2015

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Study Group TimelineMonth Milestone / Plan of Action

January (i) Formation meetingInitial discussion on PAR and CSD Presentations on use cases, usage models.

March (p) Continue discussion on PAR and CSDDiscussion supporting presentations.Study Group extension

May (i) SG Final version of PAR and CSDDiscussion on supporting presentationsWorking Group Approval on PAR and CSDPAR circulated amongst other WGs.

July (p) Presentations.Resolve EC feedback on PAR and CSD.Executive Committee Approval on PAR and CSDStudy Group extension

July (i) NesCom Approval on PAR and CSD

Sep. (targeted) Task Group formation meeting

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Submission Slide 39

Goals for July

• Technical and use case Presentations.• Resolve EC and WG feedback on PAR and CSD.• Executive Committee Approval on PAR and CSD• Study Group extension

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Teleconference Schedule - TBD

• 1st of July 10:00 ET for 1hr. • Do we need anymore calls?

Strawpoll:

We agree to the conference call schedule depicted above.

Y:

N:

A:

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Submission

Remainder to do attendance

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Submission

AOB?

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Submission

Backup

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Some history

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90.00

Months between IEEE SASB Approval and publish

Months between end of last Sponsor ballot and IEEE SASB approval

Months between start of first Sponsor ballot and end of last Sponsor ballot

Months between end of last WG ballot and start of first Sponsor Ballot

Months between start of first WG ballot and end of last WG ballot

Months between PAR Ap-proval and start of first WG ballot

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Submission

Motion to release of PAR and CSD to WG approval

Motion:

TBD.

Move:

2nd:

Y:

N:

A:

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Submission

Motions and strawpolls as needed

Motion/strawpoll

To instruct the use case document editor to add use cases depicted by slides x y z of submission abc to the use case working draft document.

Move:

2nd:

Y: N: A:

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