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Deutsche Bank Admits It Rigged Gold Prices,

Agrees To Expose Other Manipulators

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/14/2016 22:48 -0400

Commodity Futures Trading Commission Deutsche Bank Futures market

headlines HFT Market Manipulation None Precious Metals Reuters

Term Sheet

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Well, that didn't take long.

Earlier today when we reported the stunning news that DB has

decided to "turn" against the precious metals manipulation cartel

by first settling a long-running silver price fixing lawsuit which in

addition to "valuable monetary consideration" said it would

expose the other banks' rigging having also "agreed to provide

cooperation to plaintiffs, including the production ofinstant messages, and other electronic communications,

as part of the settlement" we said "since this is just one of

many lawsuits filed over the past two years in Manhattan federal

court in which investors accused banks of conspiring to rig rates

or prices in financial and commodities markets, we expect that

now that DB has "turned" that much more curious

information about precious metals rigging will emerge,

and will confirm what the "bugs" had said all along: that

the precious metals market has been rigged all along."

This was confirmed moments ago when Reuters reported that

Deutsche Bank has also reached a settlement in US litigation

alleging the bank conspired to fix gold prices. In other words,

hours after admitting it was rigging the silver market, it did the

same for gold.

Some more headlines:

• Reaches settlement in U.S. litigation alleging it conspired

to fix gold prices.• Plaintiffs' lawyers, in filing, say Deutsche Bank has signed

a settlement term sheet

• Plaintiffs' lawyers say are negotiating formal settlement

agreement that would be presented for judge's approval

later

• Plaintiffs' lawyers say settlement contemplates a monetary

payment by Deutsche Bank

• Gold settlement follows similar accord involving alleged

silver price-fixing that was disclosed on Wednesday

Most importantly, as the actual settlement reveals, Deutsche has

agreed that in addition to once again providing "valuable

monetary consideration" which will be paid into a settlement

fund, that like in the silver settlement it will provide

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And with that the floodgates open.

Here is the full settlement letter:

* * *

As a reminder, this is what we reported just hours ago on an

identical settlement involving Deutsche Bank admitting to also

rigging silver:

Deutsche Bank Confirms Silver Market Manipulation In

Legal Settlement, Agrees To Expose Other Banks

Back in July of 2014, we reported that in an attempt to obtain if

not compensation, then at least confirmation of bank

manipulation in the precious metals industry, a group of silver

bullion banks including Deutsche Bank, Bank of Nova Scotia and

HSBC (later UBS was also added to the defendants) were

accused of manipulating prices in the multi-billion dollar market.

The lawsuit, which was originally filed in a New York district court

by veteran litigator J. Scott Nicholson, a resident of WashingtonDC, alleged that the banks, which oversee the century-old silver

fix manipulated the physical and COMEX futures market since

January 2007. The lawsuit subsequently received class-action

status. It was the first case to target the silver fix.

Many expected that this case would never go anywhere and that

the defendant banks would stonewall indefinitely: after all their

legal budgets were far greater than the plaintiffs.

Which is why we were surprised to read overnight that not only

has this lawsuit against precious metals manipulation not been

swept away, but that the lead defendant, troulbed German bank

Deutsche Bank agreed to settle the litigation over allegations it

illegally conspired with Bank of Nova Scotia and HSBC Holdings

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reported citing a court filing by law firm Lowey.

Terms were not disclosed, but the accord will include a

monetary payment by the German bank.

It goes without saying, that there would have been neither a

settlement nor a payment if the banks had done nothing wrong.

According to Reuters, Deutsche Bank has signed a binding

settlement term sheet, and is negotiating a formal settlement

agreement to be submitted for approval by U.S. District Judge

Valerie Caproni, who oversees the litigation. A Deutsche Bank

spokeswoman declined to comment. Lawyers for the investors

did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

As noted above, investors had accused Deutsche Bank, HSBC

and ScotiaBank of abusing their power as three of the world's

largest silver bullion banks to dictate the price of silver through a

secret, once-a-day meeting known as the Silver Fix.

None of this will come as a big surprise to readers, most of

whom have been aware that this took place for years.

But wait there's more.

In a curious twist, the settlement letter reveals a stunning

development, namely that the former members of the

manipulation cartel have turned on each other. To wit:

The full shocking letter can be read here:

Since this is just one of many lawsuits filed over the past two

years in Manhattan federal court in which investors accused

banks of conspiring to rig rates or prices in financial and

commodities markets, we expect that now that DB has "turned"

that much more curious information about precious metals

rigging will emerge, and will confirm what the "bugs" had said all

along: that the precious metals market has been rigged all

along.

“In addition to valuable monetary

consideration, Deutsche Bank has also agreed to

provide cooperation to plaintiffs, including the production of instant messages, and other

electronic communications, as part of the

settlement. In Plaintiff’s estimation, the

cooperation to be provided by Deutsche Bank

will substantially assist Plaintiffs in the

prosecution of their claims against the non-

settling defendants.”

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Finally, we'll just remind readers that the US commodity

"regulator", the CFTC in 2013 closed its five year investigation

concerning allegations that the biggest bullion banks manipulate

silver markets and prices. It proudly reported in September

2013 that it found no evidence of wrongdoing and dropped the

probe. This is what it said:

In light of this confirmation that the CFTC's probe was "lacking"

perhaps it is time for the so-called regulators who at the time

was headed by ex-Goldmanite Gary Gensler (and assisted by

"revolving door" expert and HFT lobby sellout Bart Chilton) to

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The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC

or Commission) Division of Enforcement has closed

the investigation that was publicly confirmed in

September 2008 concerning silver markets. The

Division of Enforcement is not recommendingcharges to the Commission in that investigation. For

law enforcement and confidentiality reasons, the

CFTC only rarely comments publicly on whether it

has opened or closed any particular investigation.

Nonetheless, given that this particular investigation

was confirmed in September 2008, the CFTC deemed

it appropriate to inform the public that the

investigation is no longer ongoing. Based upon the

law and evidence as they exist at this time, there is

not a viable basis to bring an enforcement action

with respect to any firm or its employees related to

our investigation of silver markets.

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nope-

1004

So does this mean we can formally

dismantle the CFTC, since they aren't

doing their job?

How is it that the CFTC's own investigation

does not reveal any wrongdoing until Douche

admits doing so?

.GOV is a total joke.

Killtruck

Well shit, that must mean that

they've stopped, right?

*checks current gold action*

HMMMMM.

LowerSlowerDela...Wow... Look at the prices take

off (down) based on this news

that should drive prices up.

GadExp

The curious thing is why

they are admitting it now.

The power people are

making their move.

Get your umbrellas ready. The

helicopter money is days away.

You don’t want any of those notes

actually touching you!

greenskeeper carl

and both are down

today. So since they are

going to probably have

to pay collasal fines, does that

mean those of us who have lost

money on miners get money

from them, or does the money

just go to the fucking

government to waste?

(rhetorical question, I know

what the answer is)

And of course both gold and

silver are down on the news....








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Pinto Currency

The LBMA's problem will not

be repaired going just after

the banks:

http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/moving-

post-lbma-era-gold-price-

reset-watch-out

Pairadimes

We are going to

need more

lampposts.

SILVERGEDDON

I guarantee

you that they

can't do much dog

fuckerey to the

copper jacketed lead

market.

Except, maybe,

absorb the losses.

macholatte

does that

mean those

of us who

have lost money

on miners get

money from

them

on my wall I

have the check I

got after a mega-

million dollar

class action law

suit settled...

it's $0.67

the lawyers made

a lot.

Son of Loki



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After

Lowretta

finishes

arresting the

climate

change

deniers ....

Oracle

911

Guys,

nobody

asked the

main

question:

WHY

NOW

THEY AREDISCLOSING

THE

OBVIOUS?

Four

chan

havent

all the

rothchilds

stepchildren

admitted

this a

dozen

or so

times

already?

forexskin

Bob

Moriarty

at

321gold

is

going

to

have

an

aneurysm

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eating

crow

on

this

one.

philipat

And

Trader

Dan

and

a

lot

of

other

manipulation

denyers.

Lore

What

was

actually

disclosed?

Can

someone

please

post

the

evidence

for all

to

see?

philipat

Before

we

get

too

excited,

the

Fix

is

not

the

real

problem

and

we

should

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note

that

JPM

is

NOT

mentioned.

The

real

problem

is

the

waythe

Comex

is

operated,

allowing

an

infinite

number

of

paper

Gold

contracts

to

be

conjured

out

of

thin

air

without

any

physical

collateral.

The

derivatives

markets

were

set

up

this

way

deliberately

to

allow

Central

Banks

tomanipulate

PM's

through

the

Cartel.

So,

IMHO,

unless

the

Comex

changes

its

rules

(Spoiler

alert:

the

risk

of

that

happening

is

zero)

nothing

is

going

to

change.

We

all

now

understand

HOW

Comex


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is

used

to

manipulate

prices

in

what

is,

importantly,

a

perfectly

legalway

within

existing

regulations.

And

that's

exactly

how

the

Fed

wants

it

to

remain.

Incidentally,

now

we

knowwhat

Rob

Kirby

knew!

Oracle

911

If

the

public

admittance

is

not

disclosure,

then

what

is

it?

turnoffthewater

I

have

one of

those too. It's

called

Worldcom

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Conax

Oh Carl, the gubs

won't waste the

money- They'll use it

to short silver!

What's on tv?

jefferson32

If we assume the

settlement

couldn't have been

reached without the

accord of the German

government, this is

perhaps a way of getting

back at the zio-anglo

axis (see Germany's

furor at the prospect of

helicopter money).

opport.knocks

Correction, i

believe you

meant

"Germany's Fuhr at

the prospect of..."

zero_wedge

Correction -

"Führer"

Slomotrainwreck

And of course both

gold and silver are

down on the news....

irony - a state of affairs or

an event that seems

deliberately contrary to what

one expects and is often

amusing as a result.

Edit Deutsche Bank said buy

gold 1-1/2 months ago. I

wonder why.

CrimsonAvenger

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So, like when a

clown dies?

what's that smell

this

"revelation"

is anotherstrip tease, a

panama papers part

deux....

it was those facist

nazi deutsche

bankers that did it!!!

[icelanders

brazillians putin's

buddies assad's

catamite et cetera]

the head of the

snake is the US

federal reserve, not

the teutonic anus.

stoooooooooooopid.

Anasteus

And now, when

DB finally

admitted

gold/silver rigging

practice and agreed to

cooperate with the

plaintiffs on exposing the

other banks' rigging on

all counts, the

gold/silver rigging can

smoothly continue

unabated.

Kenlona

I was thinking the same

thing. The IMF and IBS

are going to use the

central bank's as scapegoats

when they initiate the collapse.

They'll say see the old system

didn't work now let us fix it for

you and of course all the

politicians are already

blackmailed or paid off so they'll

jump right on the one world

currency bandwagon

philipat

You forgot to

mention that both

the IMF and BIS

have issued stern warnings

of the problems is recent

times for the very purpose

of getting it "on the record"



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so they can say "we told you

so, but nobody listened".

bob_bichen

"It is tough being a cynic

these days.

It is so much work tokeep up!"

––Lily Tomlin

Big Corked Boots

"The problem with the rat

race is, even if you win,

you're still a rat."

- also Lily Tomlin

Strelnikov

"I worry that the

people who thought

up Muzak are

thinking of something else."

- LT

SILVERGEDDON

Bob - the quote is good,

and the bold script is

artsy, but you don't have

enough fuck going on.

More colorful, long winded

descriptive phrasing helps as

well.

It also has a calming effect on

your own personal space.

For example :

" Those Snot slinging fall down

drunk rainbow skittle shitting

unicorn child molesting rama

lama ding dong Klingon

cocksuckers from Uranus hard

at work ramming financial cock

up the muppets so hard they all

look like fucking finger puppets

!

May they all die in a fire caused

by ramming barbed wire

covered baseball bats covered

in flaming napalm up their asses

while they are being frog

marched into the business end

of an airport snow blower

running at top speed. "

I hope this helps you with your

next colorful description of

Bankster Piracy.







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ersatz007

i think you forgot

'reptilian' - it's pretty

important.

SubjectivObject

Howabout just living

with 3rd degree

burns over their

entire body?

TRM

You have obviously

watched A Christmas

Vacation with Chevy

Chase one too many times.

Well done. I saute you! Imean salute you!

Absalon

It could be that they

admitted manipulating the

price higher. More likely

the admission is that somedays

they pushed the price up a little and

some days they pushed it down a

little. Afterall, it would be very

hard for anyone to hold the price

down below a market clearing price

or up above a market clearing pricefor any extended period of time

(and there would be no point)

More likely this law suit and the

settlement will convince any banks

that have been making a market in

gold to exit the business entirely

and liquidate their trading holdings.

raeb

They manipulate up and

down, the point is when

they do this the Club

knows and benefits while the

rest of us poor suckers pay the

bill.

Absalon







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They manipulate up

and down

So buy and hold and don't

worry about it. Try to catch

a downswing if you can. Or

just stay out of that market

entirely.

zeropain

not if the rigging happen in

2008-2013. I would think

they rigged it and bought

AGQ to make go parabolic. man if

you shorted AGQ at the top 750, it

is now at 35. PMs will crash with

everything else. but goldminers will

be my first purchase after the

crash.

The Pm bugs still dont realize that

gold 1900 and silver 50 was the

top. that was a hyperbolic move

already happened. china is done

with gold, they need to feed people

who are out of work cus US

consumer is maxed on credit again

after 7yrs. deflation time.

on a possitive note maybe Blyth

Masters will be implicated in the

rigging.

Troy Ounce

The five , sorry six stages of

dying by Kuebler Ross

1. Denial

2. Anger

3. Negotiation4. Depression

5. Acceptance

6. Admission

Kirk2NCC1701

+1. Ah, good old Elisabeth

Kuebler-Ross.

Her books on Grieving are so

famous, that they are mandatory

reading in Social Work and Medicine

at quality universities.

How many people knew this? See,

this is why you come to ZH: Aside

from the Key developments in

Alternative News, and Fin. Analysis,

you come for the Comments. The

Comments is where you find

occasional nuggets, if you look for

them.






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ack

Cuz only jews know how

to grieve. Just one more

thing they hafta shove

down goy-muppet throats...

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So, marrying a Jew

makes one a Jew? Is

that how that works?

Or did she convert? Can't

find any reference to that,

but it raises an interesting

question: Is a convert a real

Jew? Speaking of real Jews,

if my parents are Jewish but

I reject the religion, am I

still Jewish?

What if I attend the

synagogue solely out of

respect for my parents? Do I

have to declare my apostasy

or be deemed a Jew simply

because I appear in the

presence of Jews? What if I

decide NOT to attend, and

everyone knows why? Does

that make me a "secular

Jew?" What if I convert to

Christianity? Am I still a

Jew? Should I be expecting

the Spanish Inquisition?

For arguments sake, let's

suppose I'm a Christian, and

my father's friend who

attends the same church

offers me a job at his firm.

Is there something wrong

with that? Should I decline

because it looks bad.... you

know, Christians helping

other Christians?

What about friends? Can I

have Jewish friends? What

about work? Is it OK to work

for a Jew? (I actually have,

and it was a pretty good

job)

Help me out here, because

I'm really confused. I know

what a Zionist is, but I'm

having trouble connecting

that to Jews in general.

Herd Redirectio...

Its a good

question. Is

whats good for

Zionists and Israel

(segregation and

tremendous in-group co-

operation) good for

everyone else, too? Of

course if white people

(non-Jews) do it, its

racist...




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If you reject the religion,

you will be termed a

'self-hating Jew'.

A convert is not a 'real

Jew'. Jewish lineage (as

considered valid by

Jews) flows through the

female line, so if your

mother was not Jewish

(ethnically) you are not

Jewish.

The real problem of

course are Zionists and

assorted Kabbalists.

gonetogalt

Serious

tribesmenare

perfectly happy with

'soft' or less than

dedicated Jews

intermarrying with

Goy and leaving the

tight bonds of the

tribe.

It's understood that

serious Jews can't

interact well with

Goy, so it's

considered necessary

to have 'buffer' of

tolerable, secular

tribesmen to conduct

relations and

business with the

goy world.

This also strengthens

the tribe by

eleminating weak

genetic lines, those

with less than total

dedication to the

tribe.

In the end, they're

culled.

TRM

Jews are the

religious flesh

shield that

Zionistas hide behind.

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