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Determination
Case No: 404469 Determination Page 1 of 4
Case number: 404469 18 April 2016
1 Overview
1.1 Dispute
The Applicant lost $360,324.73 in credit card payments to a scam. ASIC had notified
the FSP of the scam in relation to particular bank accounts and the FSP put in place
a process to detect payments but not in relation to the merchant facility. The
Applicant said the FSP should have warned him about the scam, should not have
allowed the transfers and should have charged back the transactions.
The Case Manager provided the parties with a Recommendation on the issues in
dispute. The Recommendation (copy attached) was substantially in favour of the
Applicant and the FSP rejected it saying it should not have been obliged to have
detected the payments going to a merchant name different than that contained in the
ASIC advice and that it attempted to investigate chargeback opportunities but the
Applicant failed to cooperate.
1.2 Issues and Key findings
Were the findings of the Recommendation correct?
The findings contained in the Recommendation were correct and are adopted in this
Determination. Further submissions provided after the Recommendation have been
considered.
Should the FSP’s process have detected the payments?
Yes, at least after the first three payments. The difference between the merchant
name and the company name mentioned in the ASIC email were not materially
different and the FSP should have detected the payments and blocked them.
Is the Applicant liable in any event as a result of any failure to cooperate with
the chargeback process?
It is speculative whether or not any chargeback would have succeeded but even so,
the Applicant is not liable.
1.3 Determination
This Determination is substantially in favour of the Applicant.
I agree with the case manager‟s reasons for the Recommendation and the
recommended outcome. The FSP should pay the Applicant $235,539.06.
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2 Reasons for Determination
2.1 Were the findings in the Recommendation correct?
I have decided this case on its merits, having regard to the relevant law, good
industry practice, codes of practice and previous FOS decisions. I have taken into account all the material submitted by the parties, both before and after the
Recommendation. I am satisfied that the documentation I have relied on has been provided to both parties.
I am satisfied that the case manager‟s Recommendation contains an accurate
summary of the dispute, the issues to be determined, any applicable paragraphs of
the Terms of Reference and any relevant law save for the issue of chargeback raised
by the FSP in response to the Recommendation.
2.2 Should the FSP have detected and stopped the payments?
In rejecting the Case Manager‟s Recommendation, the FSP said the processes it
implemented in response to ASIC‟s notification were robust but the merchant name
was different. It says the merchant may not be connected to company perpetuating
the scam (A company) and to be required to search all permutations and
computations of possible variations of the A company name could have a significant
and negative impact on customer experience and legitimate merchants.
I am satisfied it is more likely than not that the merchant was A company and whilst I
agree that it would not be reasonable to expect the FSP to search based on endless
possible variations of the A company name, that does not apply in this case. The
difference between the name mentioned in the ASIC email and the merchant were
not material as i llustrated below in a de-identified way:
ASIC email Merchant
The Company Name Ltd thecompanyname.com London
I therefore agree with my Case Manager‟s conclusion that the FSP ought to have
detected and blocked the transactions in this case after its fraud area became
involved following the first three transactions and the apportionment of loss she
awarded.
2.3 Is the Applicant liable in any event as a result of any failure to
cooperate with the chargeback process?
The Applicant wrongly claimed in May 2015 that all but the first of the transactions
were unauthorised. It was only later, in the course of the FOS dispute and after any
chargeback entitlement had lapsed, that he conceded he authorised all transactions.
The records show that, in response to the Applicant‟s initial claims, the FSP
completed an investigation and concluded the transactions were authorised. It
informed the Applicant that it would attempt a chargeback using an alternative
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process and asked the Applicant for information to facilitate this. The Applicant did
not provide the information, he says, because the FSP threatened legal action.
An Applicant has a duty to themselves to take reasonable steps mitigate loss, even if
not of their original making There was the potential, albeit a remote one according to
the FSP, to reduce the loss by chargeback in this case.
A financial services provider also has obligations under the Code of Banking Practice
(CBP) to „act fairly and reasonably … in a consistent and ethical manner’, and, under
clause 22.1(a), in the case of chargeback to „claim a chargeback right, where one
exists, for the most appropriate reason…‟
The Applicant says the FSP threatened it (the FSP itself) would take legal action
against him. There is no verifiable record of this claim but the FSP does mention
legal action by the merchant in an email dated 7 July 2015 (reproduced in Section
3.1 of this Determination) and refers to discussions. In response to FOS, the FSP
said:
„In reply to your question asking why I mentioned the merchant may be at risk of legal
action, as the customer appeared to have entered into a contract of sorts with the
merchant, in the event [the FSP] was able to recover his funds transacted from his
credit card account, I wanted to provide [the Applicant] notice that he should seek legal
advice.‟
Even so, the mention of legal action even if only in the email was inappropriate,
unnecessary and not consistent with the FSP‟s obligations set out above.
Additionally in the same email the FSP mentioned limitations as a result of the
transactions being „Verified by Visa’ and a low likelihood of chargeback success.
Even if the merchant is „Verified by Visa ’, this does not prevent a financial services
provider from claiming a chargeback right although this is not the inference from the
FSP‟s email.
When taken together, the mention of legal action, the limitations under „Verified by
Visa‟ and the FSP‟s opinion there was a low likelihood of success, the email did
provide a level of deterrence.
Ultimately, however, it is speculative as to whether or not the FSP would have been
able to successfully chargeback all or any of the transactions. But even if part or all
of monies could have been recovered, I do not accept that the Applicant‟s conduct
transfers liability for the failure to achieve this because:
The FSP should not have allowed the transactions in the first instance;
The FSP was on notice of the scam and so could have attempted to charge
back the transactions using an alternate reason code such as services not
received or escalated it to Visa even without the Applicant‟s information; and
Even if the Applicant could have assisted in mitigating the losses, the FSP failed
to properly assist him with the chargeback process by raising the prospect of
legal action to a person who was already facing losses of about $360,000
together with its opinion there was a low likelihood of success .
I do not, therefore, accept that the compensation amount awarded by my Case
Manager should be adjusted as a result of a failure to pursue a chargeback.
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3 Supporting information
3.1 Chargeback
In an email to the Applicant on 7 July 2015, the FSP said:
„Verified by Visa transactions provide enhanced security for online transactions and as such [the FSP] does not have the ability to chargeback the transactions for any unauthorised reasons.…
[The FSP] however will attempt to chargeback some of your transactions using an
alternative process. This process can take up to three months before it is finalised
and may expose you to legal action by [A company] if successful. As discussed, in
terms of managing your expectations, I do not believe this will succeed. If you are
concerned about possible legal exposure, please contact me as soon as possible so I
can cease [the FSP‟s] efforts…‟
On 9 July 2015, it sent another email saying:
„Dear [Applicant]
As per our discussion, it would be appreciated if you could provide [the FSP] with: - A copy of your contract with [A company] - Copies of email correspondence with [A company] - Any correspondence from [A company] supporting your comments regarding the control of Your [the company] account
Please also confirm what the balance is of your [A company] account (if applicable) with evidence.
[The FSP] will require the requested documents within 24 hours in order to establish whether [the FSP] can represent your case against the acquiring financial institution.
Given the mandated Scheme rule timeframes for lodging such disputes, failure to respond within this period will adversely impact [the FSP‟s] ability to represent your claim.‟
Recommendation
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Case number: 404469 11 February 2016
4 Overview
4.1 Dispute
Between 28 April and 15 May 2015, the Applicant made twenty one credit card
payments totalling $360,324.73 to an overseas company representing it traded in
sophisticated financial products. The Applicant has not been able to recover any of
the monies and ASIC has advised that the company is operating a scam.
The Applicant says the FSP:
Was on notice of the scam and should have warned him.
Improperly allowed transfers in excess of the credit card limit.
Should have charged back the transactions.
4.2 Issues and key findings
Was the FSP on notice of the scam and so under an obligation to block the
transactions?
The FSP was on notice of the scam and should have established processes which
would have detected the Applicant‟s credit card payments and blocked them at least
after the first three payments.
The FSP is liable for part of the Applicant‟s losses as the Applicant shares some
responsibility for his losses due to his failure to protect his own interests.
Did the FSP otherwise breach an obligation owed to the Applicant in relation to
the level of credit card transfers it allowed or by failing to chargeback the
transactions?
There were no breaches in this regard entitling the Applicant to compensation.
4.3 Recommendation
This Recommendation is substantially in favour of the Applicant.
The FSP should pay the Applicant $235,539.06 if both parties accept this
Recommendation.
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5 Reasons for Recommendation
5.1 Was the FSP on notice of the scam and so under an obligation to
block the transactions?
ASIC issued a scam alert
On 15 April 2015, approximately 2 weeks before the Applicant began sending
payments to the company, the regulator, the Australian Securities and Investment
Commission (ASIC), sent an email to financial services providers, including the FSP,
saying the company and an associated company were making unsolicited calls to
Australian “victims” seeking investment in “non existent financial products” and that
consumers were being “directed to deposit funds into an identified foreign bank
account”.
The email then went onto list nine company accounts located in various countries
and made recommendations to the FSP to implement processes to avoid further
fraud. A copy of the ASIC email has been supplied to the Applicant.
The FSP was under an obligation to implement ASIC’s recommendations in
relation to the scam
To comply with its obligations at law and under the Code of Banking Practice (CBP)
as a prudent and diligent credit provider, the FSP should not turn a blind eye to
known facts that indicate there is a serious possibility that a customer is being
defrauded or that funds are being misappropriated.
On receipt of the email, therefore, it is my view that the FSP was obliged to put in
place ASIC‟s recommended processes to detect and block payments.
The FSP says that the ASIC notice itself did not confirm the company was engaged
in fraud; rather that ASIC had formed an opinion and that the loss could arise from
the speculative nature of the investment with the company‟s website carrying
warnings in this regard.
I do not accept that the FSP was entitled to ignore ASIC‟s information when on notice
of potential fraud regardless of whether or not a website appeared legitimate which
would not be unexpected in the case of such a scam.
The FSP’s obligations extended through to credit card payments and merchant
facilities
The FSP says it loaded information about the specific accounts ASIC had identified
into its “sanctions screening database” on 17 April 2015 to flag all international
money transfers specific to these accounts but the system did not cover credit card
payments.
The ASIC email did not specifically mention credit card payments or the company
processing such payments as a credit card merchant.
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However, ASIC informed the FSP that the company was defrauding customers.
Whilst it specifically mentioned only nine specific accounts and failed to mention
there may be others, it would be reasonable and prudent for a financial services
provider to make its own assessment of the risk to its customers including the
obvious risk that a scam organisation may defraud through other accounts opened
from time to time and through credit card payments.
Further it was evident from a cursory review of the company‟s website that it took
credit card payments.
For these reasons, in my view, the FSP should have monitored all outward payments
to the company (rather than restricted to account number) including in relation to
credit card payments whether using its credit card payment security tools or, as a
minimum, by alerting its fraud areas including the credit card fraud area.
The FSP’s fraud area should have blocked the Applicant’s credit card
transactions after 22:37:58 pm on 28 April 2015
The FSP detected the transactions on 28 April 2015 and twice imposed blocks; the
first after the Applicant completed two transactions and the second, after the
Applicant completed a third (see below). The FSP has given a number of reasons
why the blocks were imposed (see Section 3.2 of this Recommendation) including
that it was and was not because of the ASIC email.
Time of
transaction (EST)
AUD
amount
Processing Code information
22:37:58 $10,576.61 Declined - do not honour
22:37:58 $6,610.38 Declined - do not honour
22:37:58 $6,610.38 Approved completed successfully
22:28:00 $13,220.76 Declined - do not honour
22:28:00 $26,441.51 Approved completed successfully
22:28:00 $13,220.76 Approved completed successfully
Whether or not the block was imposed as a result of the ASIC email is irrelevant
because the FSP should have had a detection process in place and blocked the
transactions in any event.
The FSP says the merchant name and the company name on the email were slightly
different. To clarify the difference in a de-identified way, the ASIC email represents
the company as The Company Name Ltd or The Company Name whereas the
merchant is identified as thecompanyname.com.
I do not consider the difference sufficiently substantive. The FSP should have put in
processes sufficient to identify the company name even without the spaces.
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After the transactions at 22:37 and the second block, the Applicant contacted the
credit card payments area and the banker referred the matter to the fraud area. A
transcript of this conversation is set out in Section 3.3 of this Recommendation.
At least by that stage, the FSP should have informed the Applicant of the ASIC
warning of a scam and retained the block. I am satisfied that had the Applicant been
provided this advice, he would have ceased any transactions with the company
meaning he would have avoided paying over the remaining $314,052.08.
Both parties have some liability for the Applicant’s loss
For the reasons given above, the FSP has some liability for the loss, but, in my view,
the Applicant shares some responsibility.
In the normal course, FOS is of the view that an applicant has a duty to themselves
to protect their own position and to take reasonable steps to mitigate loss. This
would include making reasonably enquiries about an investment and the entity with
which they were dealing.
Regardless of whether or not he was aware of the scam, the Applicant would
reasonably have been aware or ought to have been aware, that his decision to invest
with the company was high risk and there was the potential for loss. The Applicant:
Paid over $360,000 to an overseas investment company he had not previously
dealt with;
Made 21 separate transactions over a period of more than two weeks
progressively losing a greater and greater amount of funds.
Used monies he could not afford to lose. The Applicant says, as a
consequence of the loss of the monies, he has had to sell property to clear
debts and has suffered financial difficulty.
The Applicant has not provided any information to show he made any detailed
enquiries beyond the company‟s own website. However, there was information
readily available from a detailed internet search which would have alerted him to the
scam. This includes ASIC‟s Moneysmart website which, according to its April 2015
email and which I have confirmed with ASIC, had listed the company on 15 April
2015 as a company consumers should not deal with.
By failing to take any reasonable steps to protect his own interests including to cease
as his position deteriorated, the Applicant bears some responsibility for the losses he
has suffered.
I have dealt with the appropriate compensation later in this Recommendation after
considering the matters below.
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5.2 Did the FSP otherwise breach an obligation owed to the Applicant in
relation to the level of credit card transfers it allowed or by failing to
chargeback the transactions?
The FSP did not breach transfer limits
The Applicant transferred funds available in his line of credit to his credit card to
cover the credit card payments.
There was no maximum daily transfer limits in place and no obligation on the FSP to
apply any such limit. Under the terms and conditions, the transfer and credit card
authorisations depended on available funds which included any credit funds
deposited into the credit card account from the line of credit.
The FSP complied with its chargeback obligations
The FSP‟s obligation when a customer disputes a credit card payment is to “claim a
chargeback right, where one exists, for the most appropriate reason…” (CBP
Paragraph 22).
The Applicant notified the FSP on 25 May 2015 that all transactions, other than the
first completed with the company, were unauthorised. The FSP stopped the card
and sought further information from the Applicant in order to pursue any chargeback
right.
The FSP says the Applicant failed to respond to a request for further information it
required to process any chargebacks but the Applicant says he was deterred from
doing so because the FSP threatened legal action. In an email to the Applicant on 7 July 2015, the FSP said:
“Verified by Visa transactions provide enhanced security for online transactions and as such [the FSP] does not have the ability to chargeback the transactions for any unauthorised reasons.…
[The FSP] however will attempt to chargeback some of your transactions using an
alternative process. This process can take up to three months before it is finalised
and may expose you to legal action by [the company] if successful. As discussed, in
terms of managing your expectations, I do not believe this will succeed. If you are
concerned about possible legal exposure, please contact me as soon as possible so I
can cease [the FSP‟s] efforts…”
On 9 July 2015, it sent another email saying: Dear [Applicant]
As per our discussion, it would be appreciated if you could provide [the FSP] with: - A copy of your contract with [the company] - Copies of email correspondence with [the company] - Any correspondence from [the company] supporting your comments regarding the control of Your [the company] account
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Please also confirm what the balance is of your [the company] account (if applicable) with evidence. [The FSP] will require the requested documents within 24 hours in order to establish whether [the FSP] can represent your case against the acquiring financial institution. Given the mandated Scheme rule timeframes for lodging such disputes, failure to respond within this period will adversely impact [the FSP‟s] ability to represent your claim.”
The Applicant says the FSP threatened him with legal action in the phone call. Aside
from the above email dated 7 July 2015, there are no records to substantiate his
claim.
There may or may not have been a right to chargeback in this case. The problem for
the Applicant is that he wrongly informed the FSP the transactions were
unauthorised. Further, whilst the mention of legal action in the FSP‟s email is
inappropriate because a customer is entitled to dispute a transaction and any issues
with the merchant are a matter for it, it is irrelevant in this case. This is because the
Applicant was falsely claiming the transactions were unauthorised so a chargeback
entitlement on this basis did not exist.
If the Applicant had provided accurate information to the FSP about the
circumstances in May 2015 when he contacted the FSP, there may have been the
potential to chargeback. However, by the time the Applicant confirmed to FOS that
the transactions were in fact authorised, the time elapsed meant any chargeback
right had also lapsed so preventing the FSP from claiming any chargeback right.
Accordingly the FSP would not be liable for any failure to charge back.
5.3 What is the appropriate level of compensation?
The assessment of compensation is limited to the failure to block the credit card and
warn following the third credit card transaction on 28 April 2015. Subsequently the
Applicant sent a further $314,052.08 to the company.
When weighing up the contribution of the parties, i t is my view that the FSP‟s failure
to warn and block carries more weight than the Applicant‟s failure to protect his own
interests. In particular this is because if the monitoring been in place it is likely that
the FSP may have had many opportunities to block and warn.
On balance, it is my view that the FSP is liable for 75% of the payments made to the
company following the first three transactions.
The Applicant financed the payments from a line of credit and says he has sold
properties to settle the outstanding debt but I have not awarded compensation in this
regard. The Applicant‟s decision to commence a high risk investment strategy and to
risk additional debt and loss of assets principally rest with him and the FSP
compensating for part of the principal payments is sufficient.
Accordingly, the FSP is liable to pay the Applicant $235,539.06.
If the Applicant and FSP accept this Recommendation, the payment should be made
within seven days of the date of the latter of either parties‟ acceptance.
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6 Supporting information
6.1 History of transactions
CC – credit card
LC – Line of Credit
DATE Central Time (*)
Aust EST Aust EST AMOUNT
CC 25-May-15 5:58:30 $1,319.71 Declined
LC 15-May-15 22:20:03 $100,000.00 Paid to credit card
CC 15-May-15 12:18:04 15-May-15 22:18:04 $6,389.73 Approved
CC 15-May-15 12:18:04 15-May-15 22:18:04 $31,948.64 Approved
CC 15-May-15 12:18:04 15-May-15 22:18:04 $31,948.64 Approved
CC 15-May-15 12:18:04 15-May-15 22:18:04 $31,948.64 Approved
CC 05-May-15 13:57:46 05-May-15 23:57:46 $6,601.91 Approved
LC 05-May-15 23:34:42 $3,000.00 Paid to credit card
CC 05-May-15 13:27:46 05-May-15 23:27:46 $66,019.03 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 05-May-15 13:27:46 05-May-15 23:27:46 $26,407.61 Approved
CC 05-May-15 13:27:46 05-May-15 23:27:46 $33,009.52 Approved
CC 05-May-15 13:27:46 05-May-15 23:27:46 $33,009.52 Approved
CC 05-May-15 13:27:46 05-May-15 23:27:46 $33,009.52 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 05-May-15 13:27:46 05-May-15 23:27:46 $31,689.13 Declined - no sufficient funds
LC 05-May-15 22:27:16 $96,000.00 Paid to credit card
CC 04-May-15 14:47:56 05-May-15 0:47:56 $19,803.17 Approved
CC 04-May-15 14:47:56 05-May-15 0:47:56 $5,940.95 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 04-May-15 14:47:56 05-May-15 0:47:56 $2,640.43 Approved
CC 04-May-15 14:47:56 05-May-15 0:47:56 $2,640.43 Approved
CC 04-May-15 14:47:56 05-May-15 0:47:56 $1,320.21 Declined - no sufficient funds
LC 05-May-15 0:42:49 $64,000.00 Paid to credit card
CC 04-May-15 14:37:54 05-May-15 0:37:54 $26,404.24 Approved
CC 04-May-15 14:37:54 05-May-15 0:37:54 $13,202.12 Approved
CC 04-May-15 14:37:54 05-May-15 0:37:54 $26,404.24 Declined - no sufficient funds
LC 05-May-15 0:01:16 $6,700.00 Paid to credit card
CC 30-Apr-15 12:18:23 30-Apr-15 22:18:23 $2,583.46 Approved
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LC 30-Apr-15 22:17:20 $2,500.00 Paid to credit card
CC 30-Apr-15 11:58:19 30-Apr-15 21:58:19 $2,583.46 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 30-Apr-15 11:58:19 30-Apr-15 21:58:19 $2,583.46 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 30-Apr-15 11:48:19 30-Apr-15 21:48:19 $2,583.46 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 30-Apr-15 11:38:20 30-Apr-15 21:38:20 $25,834.60 Approved
CC 30-Apr-15 11:38:20 30-Apr-15 21:38:20 $6,458.66 Approved
LC 30-Apr-15 21:36:15 $32,000.00 Paid to credit card
CC 28-Apr-15 13:57:52 28-Apr-15 23:57:52 $6,610.38 Approved
CC 28-Apr-15 13:57:52 28-Apr-15 23:57:52 $6,610.38 Approved
CC 28-Apr-15 13:57:52 28-Apr-15 23:57:52 $2,644.15 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 28-Apr-15 13:57:52 28-Apr-15 23:57:52 $1,322.08 Declined - no sufficient funds
CC 28-Apr-15 12:37:58 28-Apr-15 22:37:58 $6,610.38 Approved
CC 28-Apr-15 12:37:58 28-Apr-15 22:37:58 $6,610.38 Declined - do not honour
CC 28-Apr-15 12:37:58 28-Apr-15 22:37:58 $10,576.61 Declined - do not honour
CC 28-Apr-15 12:28:00 28-Apr-15 22:28:00 $26,441.51 Approved
CC 28-Apr-15 12:28:00 28-Apr-15 22:28:00 $13,220.76 Declined - do not honour
CC 28-Apr-15 12:28:00 28-Apr-15 22:28:00 $13,220.76 Approved
LC 28-Apr-15 28-Apr-15 22:12:05 $55,000.00 Paid to credit card
6.2 The FSP blocked transactions
The FSP has provided the following responses as to how the transactions were
detected and the reasons why they were blocked:
Date of FSP
response
FSP information
22 July 2015 “The merchant was considered a high risk merchant. This is why a restraint
was placed on [the Applicant‟s FSP] credit card account on 28 April 2015.”
7 December 2015 “[the FSP] was aware that the merchant was considered a high risk merchant
and that ASIC had provided notice to [the FSP] that the merchant was
considered to be a scamming merchant”
18 December 2015 “For the purposes of clarification, the initial restraint was placed on the credit
card account as the transactions were identified as being processed to a high
risk merchant by [the FSP‟s credit card security system]. The restraint was
not placed on the credit card account as a result of the ASIC notification
which referred to transfers to specific accounts rather than credit card
transactions. Once [the FSP] is satisfied that the transactions are authorised
then it will lift a restraint …”
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23 December 2015 The company was designated a “high risk merchant” by the operator who
reviewed the transactions and made his/her own judgment that they were
“high risk” and were potentially fraudulent (rather than the me rchant
specifically).
6.3 Transcript of call recording on 28 April 2015:
Who Comment
FSP Hello welcome to [the FSP] this is [banker name], how can I help
Applicant [Banker name] How are you?
FSP Good thankyou what about yourself
A Not too bad thanks, um I was just wondering have you guys put a stop on transactions on my
credit card?
FSP Ooh I can‟t tell that Sir. Our credit card system is actually down for scheduled maintenance.
So what would be – so are you trying to use it today?
A Well, I transferred 30, 35 thousand US Dollars and I need to transfer another 12.
FSP OK and how were you actually transferring them?
A AS a purchase, oh as a .. yes as a purchase
FSP OK what was your full name please?
A [Applicant name]
FSP Any your security code it‟s numbers
A [gave code]
FSP OK that is fine. At the moment it doesn‟t appear that there‟s a block. I can see that you‟ve had
3 transactions is that is that [company name].com?
A Yep
FSP OK if I could just place you on hold. What I‟ll do is I will contact our fraud team to see if there‟s
any block on the card so I won‟t be a moment
A Ok
ON HOLD FOR JUST OVER 3 MINS
FSP Thanks for much for your patience here [Applicant]. It does appear that there is a aah
currently a block on the card. We can have that removed. I just need to confirm the
transactions that you‟ve made however so can I just confirm I can see 3 transactions, one for 6
A One for 6000, one for 20,000 and one for 5,000 US Dollars
FSP OK so that would we‟ve got the transactions in Australian Dollars, one for 6610.38 which I
would say would cover off the 5000 , got one there for 26,441.51
A Mmm correct
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FSP Let‟s see there is also a 3rd
one for 13,300 and, sorry 13,220.76. Would that be right?
A Yes
FSP Ok perfect and could you also tell me what other transactions you expect to make?
A Aah it‟s another 12,000 in US so it‟ll be probably about another 15 or 16,000
B Alright what I‟ll need to do I‟ve got to go back to the fraud team again. I‟ll send them this
information. What will happen is that they will take the block off the card. You‟ll need to give
them 30 minutes to do that and then you should be able to make the transactions.
A In 30 minutes
B Yep in a half an hour‟s time.
A OK
B Ok perfect. Was that all today [Applicant]
A Oh, that‟s all? I don‟t have to wait?
B NO, that‟s all, Alright then
A Ok
B Thanks so much
A Thankyou
B OK Bye