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December 2004
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The Winter Mini Show
I had a lot of different jobs during the early years of our marriage,but the most interesting was selling cutlery door to door. My careeras a cutlery salesman lasted only a month, but a period of time Inever forgot. At that time I didn’t dream that I’d spend the rest ofmy life, minus a few years, selling knives that I created with myown two hands.
It was 1960 and Phyllis and I were married less than a year. We hadmoved to Lewiston, Idaho from Twin Falls, Idaho; and I washaving no luck finding a job. I was ready to do almost anything andthat’s when my adventures as a knife salesman started.
My folks had purchased a beautiful and well made set of Zylcokitchen cutlery. The Zylco salesman was looking for moresalesmen to work under him so I hired on. If I remember right itcost me $35.00 to get signed up and that included a bond. Zylcowas an offshoot of Rena-Ware, both were part of ZylstraCorporation. I remember visiting the headquarters of ZylstraCorporation in Spokane, Washington, as part of my sales trainingand actually met the owner who went by “Pop” Zylstra.
I always figured the Zylco knives were made by Robeson. Thetrademark on Zylco included the words “Freeze”; and as far as Iknow, Robeson was the only cutlery company that offered freezetreated knives at that time. I have a 60’s Robeson butcher knife thathas “FROZEN HEAT” as part of the logo. That’s enough of aconnection for me to form my opinion about who manufactured theZylco knives. Another feature of Zylco was the “Electro” edge. Akeystone shape was etchedin an alternating pattern.The etched sections arethinner than the rest of theblade. This is supposed togive it an advantage incutting ability. I think I’veseen Robeson knives withan etched type of treatmentsimilar to that on the Zylcoknives. (See the photo)
I didn’t turn out to be muchof a salesman, but it keptgroceries on the table forawhile before a real jobcame along working as a
warehouseman for Payless Drug Store. That’s another interestingstory to be told at some later date.
We got into homes to sell the knife set by cold canvassing and byreferrals. I got better at cold canvassing as I gained experience, but itwas never easy for me. We got our referrals from those we madesales to. In our sales kit there was a real nice hunting knife with aretail price of $12.95. (It looked just like a Robeson hunting knife.)We could give them the hunting knife, or a choice of a pair ofkitchen shears after they bought the set and wrote us out threereferrals to get us into their friend’s houses.
I tried many different lines to get through the front door, includingthe offer of free stuff, the officially authorized line. The openingline, “Would you like to buy some knives?” worked as good as anyto get in the door. There aren’t too many homes with a drawer full ofsharp knives so, “free knife sharpening” was fairly successful. Zylcohad a sharpener that was nearly foolproof and left knives very sharp.The knife was rolled through the sharpener that would give thecorrect edge angle every time. The sharpener had a steel rollersection that would line up the wire edge. The only way to get thesharpener was to buy the whole package. That was just the first ofseveral “hooks” we had to choose from in our way to closing thesale. I was soft at closing sales, especially when the folks looked likethey couldn’t afford the set. As a trainee I would go out with some ofthe best salesmen. These guys had been selling everything from soupto nuts for many years and didn’t know the meaning of the word“NO!” It was, I’d imagine, as if a human had the determination of a
bulldog and the appetite of a hungryshark.
The Zylco Knife set was a veryattractive package, as it should havebeen with a retail price of nearly$120.00. That was two to three day’swages in 1960. The set wasimpressive the way we laid it out. Wewould explain one knife at a time,building value with each step. It was abeautiful and desirable set whencompletely laid out on our red tablecover. We started out with “TheMillion Dollar Baby,” the advertisedprice of the research that went into thedevelopment of the Zylco paring knife.
A Month In the Life of a Door-to-Door Knife SalesmanBy Wayne Goddard
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#1 shows the Zylco carving knife with the trademark etched sections at theedge. The Zylco knives I sold all had black wood micarta handles. #2 is a Zylcoknife that I'm not quite sure about. It may be older or newer than the ones Isold. The streaked brown handle is the same material as the Cutco knives andthe unusual serration pattern makes it more like a Cutco than a Zylco product.#3 is the Robeson butcher knife with "Frozen Heat" as part of the logo.
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Knotes onUnited StatesMilitary EdgedCutleryby Frank Trzaska
“Blood Grooves”A great sounding name, it evokes theWalter Mitty in one. You can placeyourself at the scene of a hand to handcombat duel to the death with that enemysoldier in the last minutes of a desperatebattle. The word “fuller” just doesn’tcapture that same sense of imaginationdisplayed by the old blood groove term.Actually it is all marketing hype in myopinion. The greatest known set of bloodgrooves in the military knife world is theUSMC 1219C2, affectionately known asthe “k-bar” to most. Well these are therefor styling, and that is about it.
The original 1219C2was nothing morethen a re-handledUnion CutleryCompany /Ka-Barcommercial huntingknife. This huntingknife design wascopied from the supersuccessful Marbles“Ideal” model huntingknife with one minordifference, the Idealfullers did serve apurpose. If you lookat the fullers producedin the Marbles Ideal,you will immediatelynotice that they arevery wide and deepunlike the ones on the1219C2 which aremuch narrower,placed higher on theblade and not as deep.The idea behind theMarbles fuller was toallow the user to re-sharpen his knife on a flat stone while inthe field. This field sharpening methodwould allow the user to flat sharpen theknife by holding the blade flat. This couldnot be accomplished on the narrowfullered 1219C2 or for that fact on thecommercial version of the knife either. Sowe see the reason I call them marketinghype. You see the originals did serve apurpose while it was lost to the designerswho copied it.
At that point the new producers needed tocome up with a reason for its existence,“Blood Grooves” were invented; and thesuction theory came about from this samedrivel. For those that claim they lighten theblade, it is true; but for added strength, it isalso a false belief. While there is aminuscule weight reduction, it could not bedetected by anyone handling the knife soagain it is hype. Adding strength is anotheroften quoted by-product of the grooves.This may be true on steel I-beams and longswords with a true central fuller but not sowith the short blade of a knife. The physicaleffects are just not the same. The above wasrelated to me many moons ago by our goodfriend, Bernard Levine. What exactly mademe think of it now I don’t know.
Why do some folks make their auction filesso large it takesliterally minutes toload? Do theyactually want to raisethe frustration levelof a potential buyer?I think a goodphotograph helps to
sell the item; but all the colorfulbackgrounds and music are ridiculous tome, I just can’t figure it out. I will tell youthis much, if it takes what I consider toolong to load the auction, one minute ormore, I just stop it and go on to the nextone. Regardless of what it is, I am not thatinterested in it if the current owner cannotthink about those who don’t have a cablemodem running at the speed of light! WhenI cruise eBay or some other such site, I wantto see what is being offered and read thewriteup, not have a full length featuremotion picture! So this is my way of lettingyou know you are missing some sales whileyou p... off a large portion on the buyers byloading your auctions up with worthlessjunk that you think looks good. Think aboutit, I won’t be a buyer from you... how manyothers might feel the same way?
Sometime ago Dewey and Lavona Fergusonwrote the series ofknife and price guides. Since that time wehave abided by the theme although we haveused other words for it. I often quote supplyand demand as a reason for prices being sohigh on objects that seem to defy reason.Another, although less thought of reason, isthe “Romance” the object carries.
Not the type of romance you may find in anovel or on the soap operas, but it works onthe mind in much the same way. It takes
Pet Peeve
Romance in Collecting
Romance in Collecting
you away from the current and lets youdrift, if only for a brief moment, toanother place and time. Now this may bein the form of history or lineage to somehigh profile group, such as the V-42linked to the First Special Service Forceor the SOG knife linked to MAC-V-SOG.Or it could be a knife once owned by afamous person, such as General JamesGavin’s Randall Made knife on display inthe West Point Museum. Or a knife madeby a special or famous person such as aHoward Cole knuckle knife. All of theabove knives can be considered rare, butthey are also“Romantically” involvedpieces that far out weigh the rareness oftheir existence.
The “story” behind the knife is often thedetermining factor in the pricing of it.While I would be the first one toadmonish you to buy the knife not thestory, some of these knives are foreverhooked to a story for just the reasons citedabove, romance. I have seen far rarerknives go for thousands of dollars lessjust because they do not have the romanceor “curbappeal”of thebiggunslike theV-42 ortheSOG.Thisupsetsthe truesupplyanddemandidea bylinkingitself tojust the demand side and throwing out thesupply side. So to make a long storyshort, rarity does come into play withpricing, but it does not affect the pricenearly as much as the romance side of thecoin. When you have the two working foryou, then you have the best of bothworlds. That, my friends, is the V-42 andthe SOG and the ...
Only in America... Can a boy be given acondom while in high school, by order ofthe local school board, and be expelled bythat same board for praying that he gets achance to use it... Go Figure!
Frank Trzaska [[email protected]]
Nothing to do with Knives
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OKCA Knewsand Musingsibdennis
Mini Show.........
Toys for Tots SaturdayNite Potluck Social.
Membership Dues be due.....
Monthly Meetings.....
dear Elayne
We are within a few tables of having a full-table show for the December 11 event.Remember that if you wanted a table anddidn’t request one you may not have onethere when you arrive. Table holders willfind a paper on the table when they claim atable. Please fill out the paper and return tothe Club table before 9 am. It will help whenwe are questioned, “Where is old so andso....?” This is a must.
Details on the Winter Mini Show can befound elsewhere in this Knewslettter. Not toforget the and the
Membership in the Oregon Knife CollectorsAssociation is based on a calendar year. Theway you can easily tell the status of yourmembership is by the label that appears onthis Knewslettter. So if the number 2004appears on the upper right corner of yourmailing label then your membership lapseson December 32, 2004. For some there is noworry since their labels read 2005 or greater.The application form in this Knewslettterwill suffice for membership and or tablerequests. Or if there are some that want topreserve the Knewslettter, you can print outan application from our website or you cancopy the application page and send it in.Please use a form as our accountant goesnuts without one. It is the paper trail fordoing business and is required. If you don’tdo it, our accountant has to.
The November meeting held at the SizzlerRestaurant was an absolute huge success.Good food, good friends, good light, goodnight and even my mature ears caught most
everythingthat wassaid. Thatis except
for what
was tellingme to do. Inorder to
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turnout. Because the meeting was wellreceived, I have arranged that we will meeton the third Wednesday of every month.The next meeting will be Wednesday,December 15 . This should work wellbecause we can all bring the knife of ourlives that we picked up at the Mini Show.
has offered to supplydisplay cases for rental for the April Show.We must have your request for these casesbefore the April Show. These wood casesmeasure 24x30x2 and come with a lock.There are a limited number of these displaycases available so get your request in early.The rental is $30 for the three day weekendand can be paid for at the Show if you like.
The sale of the Club knife has beenmoving along quite briskly. Get yourorders in soonly or you might get left out.Many of the people that have ordered theseknives have commented that this seems tobe a special pricing on these knives. Theywould have expected to pay more. This istrue, but thanks to the generosity of
to our organization, we arepleased to offer not only a special knife butalso a special price.In this issue you will find an applicationfor the Club knife for 2005. This is the firstever Damascus knife we have offered.Ford is also making the Oregon Specialversion which can only be had as a set andonly to Oregon residents. These sets canonly be picked up at the Show.
Only 25 of the Oregon Special knives willbe made, and they will be serial numberedalong with the manual knives from 1 to 25.If you want to see a colour picture of thisknife go to the Club website. There areonly a few sets left.
.....A big thank you to our writers that helpkeep this Knewslettter alive and well. Thismonth we thank
for their contribution to the Decemberissue.
Although good for the next month or sowith articles, that “well” will run dry.Please help us by mailing us articles andkeeping our cupboard full. So many kniferswith so much knowledge... please sharewith us.
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Cases for the April Show....Bryan Christensen
Club Knife.........
FordSwauger
Nomailing.
Articles, articles, articles .....
Charlie Campagna(Canada), Wayne Goddard (Eugene),Jim Pitblado (Long Beach CA/BandonOR) and Frank Trzaska (New Jersey)
Now for you trivia folks. The name WalterMitty is found in one of the articles in thisissue. Who was Walter Mitty?
I am not sure why this knife makes mesmile, but it does. I also haven’t quitefigured it out yet on how I am to interpretthe message, “Sell and Repent.” Maybe Icould get a little help on the subject fromsome of my friends. The knife was made bySchrade Walden circa 1950 - 1970. Thehandles appear to be genuine “ Mother of
toilet seat.” It is a two bladed knife, a tadover 3 inches long. I could use some more“Smile Knives” so send ‘em in.
We have retained the same price at theValley River Inn as we have for the last fewyears. Ya gotta mention the OKCA Show toget this pricing. Is it too early to reserve aroom? Nope. I checked and they are readyfor you now. Their operators are standingby.
- (800) 543-8266 -(541) 687-0123 - Our top recommendation.Fills up fast. A quality place to stay. Officialhome for folks away from home visiting theOregon Knife Show. Special Show rates ifyou mention the OKCA Show.
-A City Inn -(800)264-2519 -(541) 343-1119 -ClassicHospitality. A very unique experience. Topquality.
- (888) 259-8481 - (541)345-3391 -The closest motel yet to theKnife Show. A budget motel and specialrates if you mention the Knife Show.
Knives that make me Smile.......
Places to lay your head down whilsthere......
The Valley River Inn
The Campbell House
Courtesy Inn
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A Month In The Life (continued from page 1)
When we got to the chef knife, we’d get outthe little cutting board from our kit, put apenny on and give it enough whacks to showall present that this was one tough knife.There was an old style four-tine turning fork,and a nice carving fork to go with thecarving knife. A very unique item was thenarrow spatula that would flex 90 degreesand return to straight. All in all it was a verynice set. We came out of the sales experiencewith a set, and we’ve gotten 45 years ofgood use out of them.
I’ll wrap this up by telling about threehandmade knives I saw while making mysales pitches. All three knives were quite abit different in shape, and their method ofconstruction and all made a lastingimpression on me.
Unforgettable knife #1. I’d given mypresentation but not made the sale. I thenmade the offer of a choice between thehunting knife or kitchen shears in exchangefor three referrals. I don’t remember if I gotthe referrals or not, but I’ve got a crystalclear memory of the knife that I was shown.The knife was a skinning knife that had beenhandmade in the mid 1930’s. The gentlemanwas an elk guide during hunting season, andhis knife was his idea of the perfect skinningknife. It had a thick, upturned skinning typeblade with a blood gutter and a thumb rest. Itwas unlike any knife I had ever seen, and itgave me that “burning desire” to create onefor myself just like it. My first knife wouldhave probably been that pattern, but I didn’thave any steel wide enough till I went towork in the saw trade. Once I had a supplyof obsolete chipper blades that were theperfect thickness and plenty wide I made myversion of the unusual skinning knife. Seethe picture.
Unforgettable knife #2. The secondhandmade knife I saw was from the 1930’s
and was made by the owner. It had a castaluminum handle, a feature that I hadn’tseen before. The gentleman told that he wasan automobile mechanic and had forged theblade from a broken car spring. He meltedan aluminum piston and cast the handleonto the blade. He used sand from a nearbystream for the sand casting process. I cameaway dreaming about doing work like thatsome day. This was the man who showedme the brass rod test for checking edgestrength.
Unforgettable #3. The third handmade knifethat had a lasting effect on my thinking wasa forged hunting knife that had somefeatures I’d never seen. The gentleman hadmade it as a young man, in approximately1910. The handle was a deer leg bone, witha bolster and pommel made from a silverdollar that he hammered out. The blade,which was made from a file, had an integraldouble guard. A strip of material had beenhot-cut from both sides of the tang. The
strip was then bent out from the body,forged to a long taper, then a rat-tail formedtop and bottom to form the guard. Theblade was heat-blued when it was made andstill had most of the original finish aftermany years of use. That knife hadeverything; exotic materials, uniqueconstruction, and a great story to go with it– what else could be desired.
It was two years after my Zylco experiencebefore I made my first knife from scratch.During that time I would often think ofthose knives and dream of makingsomething like them. Even though I wasn’ta huge success at door to door selling, Igained knowledge and inspiration. Thosetwo things probably took me further alongon my career than having a lot of money toget set up with. If I had gotten rich sellingcutlery, I would never have learned thethings that gave me the material to write abook with the title, Wayne Goddard’s $50Knife Shop.
Jim Pitblado Collection
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MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION AND SHOW TABLE CONTRACT
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AUTOMATIC RESERVATIONS: If you had a table at the2004 Show, you have an automatic reservation for the sametable in 2005, but THIS RESERVATION EXPIRESDECEMBER 15, 2004. You may still apply for a table afterthis date, but we cannot guarantee a table after Decem-ber 15. NO RESERVATIONS HONORED OR APPLICA-TIONS ACCEPTED WITHOUT FULL PAYMENT! Note toNEW exhibitors: your table(s) will be assigned after12/15/04.
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ANY QUESTION OR DISPUTE arising during the showshall be resolved by the Show Chairman, whose decisionshall be final.
THIS IS A KNIFE SHOW. All tables must be predomi-nantly knives or knife related items (e.g. swords, axes,edged tools, edged weapons, knife books, knifemakingsupplies). If in doubt, check with the Show Chairman aheadof time. The OKCA reserves the right to bar any item fromdisplay or sale. No firearms made after 1898 may be soldor shown at this show.
ALL EXHIBITORS are required to keep their tables setup throughout the public hours of the Show: 9 AMSaturday to 3 PM Sunday. ANY EXHIBITOR WHOLEAVES OR COVERS THEIR TABLE BEFORE 3 PMSUNDAY FORFEITS HIS FUTURE RESERVATIONS ANDWILL BE DENIED TABLES AT FUTURE OREGON KNIFESHOWS.
DISPLAY TABLES will be around the perimeter of theroom. All displays are eligible for display awards, which arehandmade knives donated by members and supporters ofOKCA. Display judging will be by rules established byOKCA. Special category awards may also be offered.NOTHING MAY BE SOLD FROM DISPLAY TABLES.
SALE/TRADE TABLES Sharing of tables will not beallowed. Exhibitors must comply with all applicable local,state, and federal laws. Oregon has NO SALES TAX.
BADGES: Each table holder is entitled to one additionalshow badge.
KNIFEMAKERS who are present and are table holders atthis show may enter knives in the knifemaking awardcompetition.
FOR MORE INFORMATION on categories and judgingcriteria in the display and handmade knife competitions,contact the Show Chairman.
SECURITY will beprovidedbyOKCAfrom10AMFridayuntil4 PM Sunday. However, exhibitors are responsible forwatching their own tables. Neither the OKCA nor the LaneCounty Fair Board will be responsible for any loss, theft,damage, or injury of any kind.
CITY AND COUNTY REGULATIONS require that there be:
• No Smoking within the Exhibit Hall at any time;
• No alcoholic beverages consumed within theExhibit Hall during the public hours of the show;
• No loaded firearms worn or displayed at the show;
• No swords or knives brandished or displayed in aprovocative manner.
Violators of these safety rules will be asked to leave.
NOTE ON SWITCHBLADES AND DAGGERS: In Oregonit is legal to make, sell, buy, or own switchblade knives.However, it is ILLEGAL to carry a switchblade knife, a gravityknife, a dagger, or a dirk concealed on one's person, or fora convicted felon to possess a switchblade or gravity knife.Most other states have banned switchblade knives. Underfederal law, it is ILLEGAL to mail, carry, or ship a switchbladeor gravity knife across state lines.
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Sunday, April 10, 2005 8am-9amset-up. 9am-3pm open to public.
Tables that are cancelled will revertback to the OKCA.
Subcontracting tables is notpermitted.
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The Mini Show
The date is. At
that time the doors will open in thatround building (Wheeler Pavilion) atthe Lane Event Center (formerly LaneCounty Convention Center and FairGrounds). At this early hour in themorning (yawn) the rush starts forthose who reserved tables to run inand lay claim to the tables that suittheir needs. Just remember that if anargument ensues as to the claim forspace, everyone in the building has aknife.
So just what is the story on this oneday show in the month of December?Mega years ago we decided that ratherthan have two full blown knife showsa year, we would have a Mini Showthat satisfied and took the edge offwaiting for the Show in April.December was mid year so the datewas set. Rather than charge for tablesand admission for this one day show, weelected to use the funding that we generateat the Big Show to finance this show. Thatwould be the raffles, Club knife project andsilent auctions which we actively promote atthe April Show.
The places we have had this event in thepast have been questionable at times, butthis Round Building works well. (Forseveral years, many years ago, before it wasremodeled, we held our yearly April Showin this building.) Heat and light and room toroam, along with easy to reach rest stations.It also provides a place to have our SocialPot Luck dinner. Parkingis free and that is a verygood price. The locationof this building is just tothe North of the buildingthat houses our AprilKnife Show.
We need to have advancereservations for thisShow. We pay for alltables, empty or full, sowe order only enufftables for the reservationswe get. So if you do notorder a table and expectto find one when you getthere, you will be like the
. Samegoes for the chairs asthey cost us too. We have
December 11, 2004,Saturday, and the time is 7 am
“An armed society is a politesociety.”
tuna fish, Charlie
room for over 100tables with room tospare. We will have aconcession standthere to fuel yourbelly until the socialoccurs. And just likethe April Show, if youleave early before 4pm then
(Triviaquiz - where did thisexpression comefrom?)
We are also havingthe
hasvolunteered to headup this event. Pleasebring unwrapped toysfor youngsters for thisholiday project. Laterin the day onSaturday they will bepicked up by theparticipating
organization. This Toys For Tots drive isour way of helping out the community. Wefind that we have to buy twos of everything,as Elayne falls in love with the toys anddoesn’t want to let them go.
So get your table reservations in NOW!Tables are only available to OKCA Clubmembers (easily handled by joining ourmerry band). The date is Saturday only,12/11/04, and the time is 7 am until 4 pmwith the social pot luck starting at 5 pm.The tables do have table covers on them andthey are 8 feet long just like the ones at the
April Show. 2005 membership cardsare available at the Show and for thosethat play it close to the wire, you canpay for your April table and beat theDecember 15 deadline.
Contact June Morrison at(541)942.1374 or email [email protected](that is an underline twixt june andlewis) and let her know what you willbe bringing for the social. This willhelp her to fill the void so that wewon’t have only broccoli and spinachdishes and no desserts.
So email, call or send messengerpigeons to get your table reserved forDecember 11.
your nameis “Mudd.”
Toys for Totsevent. BryanChristensen
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Directions to The Lane Events Center(Fairgrounds/Convention Center)
From 1-5 take exit 194B. Stay on I-105West until the end (it crosses over theWillamette River and then curves to theleft). I-105 ends at 7th and Jefferson(when I-105 widens to three lanes, stay inthe center lane to avoid being forced toturn). Proceed straight ahead, south onJefferson, straight through the intersectionat 13th & Jefferson, where you will enterthe Lane Events Center: 796 W 13th Ave.,Eugene, OR 97402, (541) 687-0292. Weare in the round building at the North endof the Fairgrounds.
LANEEVENTSCENTER
The meeting was held November 17 at Sizzler SteakHouse, Gateway. The attendance was 36, with anumber of new faces. Thank you,for the calls and emails. We were trying a new spotsince the old room at the old restaurant wasbecoming part of the bar area. The generalconsensus was OK. Unfortunately the Sizzler hadfeatured a special ad so the lines were especially long.We have been assured this is not usually the case. Wehave agreed to have a meeting December 15 (thethird Wednesday) at the Sizzler which will be afterthe December 11 show at the Lane EventsCenter–the new name for the Lane County FairGrounds.
has requested the display award knivesbe returned to us by the December show. This wouldgive us an opportunity to photograph and write aboutthem in the Knewslettters before the April Show.Here’s hoping it will come to pass.has already returned his knife and it is very special. Thank you.)
has requested we contact her to advise the dish wewill bring to the December potluck. The Club will supply the entree,beverages, plates etc.
has volunteered to coordinate the Toys For Totsat the December show. Please bring a new, unwrapped toy. They willbe picked up at the show.
is working on a blade template for the grindingcompetition. It was suggested a drop point and he was interested.
The 2005 Club knife sales are doing well. Be sure tosend in your requests or be left out.
The current membership is 1402 and 46 on the waiting list for tables.We are currently capped at 470 tables for the April Show. But we arenot stagnant; we are constantly thinking of ways to improve theofferings and the quality of the Show.
The December Winter Show will be held December 11 at the LaneEvent center. We will be in the round Wheeler Pavillion building.Please call Dennis (541)484-5564 or [email protected] to get on the list for a free table at theshow.
The payment to reserve your 2004 table for the 2005 Show isDecember 15. Please remember you must be a 2005 member toreserve a 2005 table. Check your Knewslettter for your membershipexpiration date. Also if you are a member and want to attend theApril Show, be sure to renew your membership prior to the Show.We will again hold membership renewal until after 2:00pm onFriday, April 8.
The lending library of the videos of the 2004 Show is working. Afew minor stumbles but we can work them out. This gives all of usan opportunity to “see” the Show which we missed. The only shortcoming was no shots of the displays; this will be amended in the2005 Show. Please forward your requests to the OKCA, email,phone.
from Excalibur Cutlery, Valley River Center, advisedthat it was slow going on the proposal for consignment of custom-made knives. We reminded her that knife people are slow to changeand she seemed reassured. If you would like to leave a business cardwith them, they will put it on the counter.
Please watch the website. We are constantly updating and changing.
Adjourn for show and tell.
See you at the December show, December 11. See you at the meetingat The Sizzler Restaurant, Gateway, Wednesday December 15.
Happy holidays–stay happy and safe.
Bernard Levine
Wayne Morrison
(Seth Cosmos Burton
June Morrison
Bryan Christensen
Larry Criteser
Ford Swauger
Glenda Brown
The Seek-re-tary Reportby elayne
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This year we are offering a Ford Swauger folding pocket knife forthe members of the OKCA. This will be our first Damascusfolding knife. The steel is made in Ford’s shop and is a blendingof 1096 and L6 in what Ford calls a “twist pattern.” The bolstershares this sameDamascus pattern. Thehandles are white bonethat have been sealed,stabilized and polished.The handle length is 4inches and the overalllength is 7 inches. Theliners are titanium andhave been worked inwhat Ford refers to as a“lace pattern.” This is aliner lock knife.
The knives will beserial numbered andmarked as OregonKnife Collectors knives.This marking will be onthe inside of the knife to preserve the beauty of this knife. Theseknives are only available to Oregon Knife Club members and theOregon Special is only available to Oregon residents who purchasethe set. There will be 25 sets available and 25 manual only knivesmaking a total of 75 knives.
The Oregon Special knife is referred to as a double action knifeand is a handle/bolster release. This mechanism is a Ford Swaugerdesign and works quite nicely. Both knives will have a specialhand-checkered stainless steel thumb stud.
Serial number special requests will only be honored for those whohave purchased knives with the same number in the last two years.All other serial numbers will be random drawn. Delivery will be inApril at the Oregon Show.
This is a fund raising project for the OKCA so help out and alsomake an investment in what will soon be a very desirable knife toown. These knives will go fast so don’t delay. One knife or set isavailable per member on this first offering. Additional knives canbe purchased after December 15 if there are any left.
Oregon Knife Collectors’ 2005 Club Knife
The price on the manual knife is $275 and the set will be $625.
Name_______________________________________________
Address______________________________________________
City ______________________ State _______ Zip __________
Regular manual knife ____________ quantity.
Oregon Special set of two knives ___________ quantity.
Total amount enclosed __________________
Your 2003/2004 serial number if desired was _________
Please add $8 for shipping if you are not able to pick this knife upat the Show on April 08-10, 2005.
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Between 1935 and 1940, Remington Dupontmanufactured what I call the RH 70 serieshunting knives. These hunting knives werenumbered as follows: RH70, RH71, RH72,RH72, RH73, RH74, RH74P and RH75. Ihave owned or seen all but the RH74 andRH74P, which I believe exist; but I just havenot run into them yet. These hunting knivesfor the most part had 4-1/2 inch blades andwere 8 inches long with various tang stampson both sides of the blade. The handlematerials ranged from leather on the RH70,RH71 and RH72, to bone on the RH73 andRH75, to Nova stag on the RH73, to threedifferent Pyremite handles on the RH72Pand I presume the RH74P. The threePyremite handles I have seen are orange,mottled green and mottled brown. Theblades of the RH71, RH72 and RH73 areetched on eitherthe front orback with oneof two differentdeer scenes. So,if you add upall the potentialvariations of theRH70 series, acollector couldaccumulateover 20differentknives.
The RemingtonRH70 series ofhunting knives were very popular because ofthe inexpensive price, high quality,distinctive variety of handle material, thebeautiful etching of the deer scenes and theusefulness of a knife of this size for a varietyof purposes.
Remington provided the local hardware storewith several beautiful counter display casesto help marketthese knivesincluding theglass display casecatalogued byRemington as theRH838 and abright greenwooden counterdisplay boardcatalogued theRH100.
The Remington RH72P which is the subjectof this article is a very unique one of a kindknife which would have been very popularhad it ever been put to production. It is afixed blade hunting knife to have beenproduced for the Boy Scouts of America.The description includes “RH” which standsfor Remington Hunting and the “P” standsfor pyremite, a celluloid, which is thehandle material. The blade length is astandard 4-1/2 inches and the totallength of the knife is eight inches.The front side of the blade isengraved “ Boy Scouts of America”and the “Be Prepared” shield is inblack with gold highlights. This is aprototype, formal presentation knifemade by Remington Cutlerysometime between 1935 and 1939 forapproval by the Boy Scouts ofAmerica. I have been able to followthe ownership of the knife; but, as faras I can determine, most likely due toWWII obligations, the knife wasnever approved by the Boy Scouts ofAmerica or mass produced by
Remington Cutlery. GeorgeHildreth seems to be the startinglink in the saga of this particularknife as he is the original owner. Iwas fortunate to be able tointerview his daughter-in-law,Loraine Hildreth, in July, 2004, inBrookings, Oregon, and learnmore about George and hishistory.
George Hildreth was born in1897 in Connecticut and went towork for Remington Arms in1915. During his career withRemington Arms, he was a toolgrinder, rate setter, estimator,
office manager and supervisor of the tooland gage department. He had left servicewith Remington Arms to do active duty inWWI. He also did farming in Baker,Minnesota, and was a hotel owner andoperator in Clemens, NY. George workedfor Remington Arms in Bridgeport,Connecticut; Lowell, Colorado and finally,Findley, Ohio, where he retired in 1945 with
25 years of service.What is interesting isthat I have not beenable to discoveranything showing thathis Remingtonemployment wasassociated with theRemington Cutlerydivision during his 25years of service.
George had three sons,James Hildreth, of
Sonoma, California; Robert Hildreth, ofFinley, Ohio; David Hildreth of Brookings,Oregon. David Hildreth inherited the knifein 1954 when George died, along withvarious paperwork covering GeorgeHildreth’s employment at Remington Armsand several pictures of George in the workenvironment.
Along with the prototype Boy Scout knife,there was a pattern RH36 (6-1/4 inchhunting knife) factory engraved with abeautiful forest scene. The engraving on thisRH 36 was made possible because the frontside of the blade was produced without theblood groove which is normally seen on thisknife.
David Hildreth died on June 22, 2004, andis survived by his wife Loraine, Brookings,Oregon, and a son, Ben, from Maui,Hawaii. Ben and Loraine were kind enoughto provide me with copies of GeorgeHildreth’s 25 year employee card, a pictureof him as a teenager and as a manager. Inaddition to his obituary, dated May 24,1954, I also received a hand written resumeby George Hildreth dating from July, 1913to December, 1945.
Sadly, I have been unable to find anyinformation on why George was inpossession of the beautiful Remingtonprototype Boy Scout presentation knife andthe RH36 knife. According to his daughter-in-law, the few items I looked at andobtained copies of are all that remain ofGeorge Hildreth’s past.
So while we can view this beautiful knife,admire the artwork and preciseness of theengraving, much of its production, historyand transfer to George Hildreth will remainunknown and subject to our imagination.Should any of you reading this article haveany further information which would add tothe history of this knife, I would very muchenjoy hearing from you.
The RH 72P Boy Scoutsof America PresentationKnifeBy Jim Pitblado
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Who Made These KnivesAnyway?By Charlie Campagna
When you have a collection of Americanmade jack knives of the same pattern,you have several pages of the story ofthe U.S. cutlery industry. And when theyare older, say from the earlier twentiethcentury, they can open up the oftenasked question of which of the manyknife making companies actually wereresponsible for making them.
My chosen pattern is the harness jack. Thisis a sturdy, serviceable pocketknife with ablade and a punch usually located in oneend. When the knives have a tang-stampfrom Holley, Remington, Robeson and otherwell-known manufacturers, it is most oftena safe bet that the brand signifies the maker.But what about when you run into brandssuch as Cline Stewart, Globe Cut. Co, W. D.Herbert and Zenith and many other obscurenames?
Along with some good reference books suchas Goins’ and Levine’s and looking at a lotof knives side by side, comparisons can bevery informative. If you are a knife loverreading this article, then there is one morereason to look at knives, which will no doubtbe welcome!
So let’s compare some knives! First a fairlyeasy pair is a Robeson and a Globe Cut. Co.On the first knife the tang stamp readsROBESON Shuredge ROCHESTER, andthe punch isstampedPAT. APR.25-05 whichis the datethat Robesonpatentedtheir Cooperstyle punch(thanksibdennis). On the second knife the only tangstamp is on the blade, and it reads GlobeCut.Co. The handle patterns appear identical,and the bone jigging is the same style withthe green bone varying only slightly in color.The rivets are in identical locations. Thepunches are the same although the Globe isnot stamped. The flat ground, lightlyswedged, blades vary only at the nail nickbut not significantly.
The Shuredge marking was used roughlybetween 1922 and 1940 which is about thesame time the punch patent ran out (after 17years.) Globe sold knives between 1921 and1929. It is pretty conclusive that Robeson
made the knife for Globe, perhaps after thepunch patent expiry. My guess is theRobeson was made before 1922, and theGlobe before 1929.
The nextpairconsists ofa CaseTested XXand aUTICA,arched andoverlaying
a rectangle. Both these knives have a swellend handle with a candle end lower bolsterand are of the same length, width andgeneral shape. But closer inspection revealsdifferent bone jigging, pin locations, bladesand punches. And the Case is a slimmerknife. Here it is much less likely the kniveswere made in the same place. In my opinionthe in-house designers were different peopleeven though the general handle shapes arevirtually identical.
The final pair is stamped respectivelyHAMMERBRAND with apicture of an armholding a hammeroverlaying it, andZenith encircledin a crescentwhich hasM.W.H.CO on it.The first of coursewas made by New York Knife Companybetween 1882 and 1931. The second was
made for Marshall Wells Hardwareusing their Zenith brand. The handlepatterns are virtually identical, but theHammer is shorter and slimmer.The same holds true for theblades. It is almost like theZenith was placed on a copymachine and copied 10%smaller to make the Hammer. I’d
like to find that machine!
The punch blades on these knives arevery telling with the Hammer notcompletely stamped on the back. The patentnumber 1171422 is the 1918 Fuller patentfor the punch blade, and the numbers 422are missing. The Zenith punch is stampedwith the Harrison 1902 (PAT. NO. 701878)patent punch blade. These punches wereboth used by New York KnifeCompany. The first mentionedwas an improved model.
Let me say these arebeautifully finished, tightlymade knives! Even though
they vary in size and handle material, thereis no doubt they were designed by the sameperson or team and made by the bestcraftsmen in my opinion. This fits NewYork’s reputation so I think most readerswill agree the knives were made by NYKCwith the Zenith possibly being the older ofthe two. The Zenith may have been madebefore 1918, and the Hammer Brand after1918 when the improved punch waspatented.
The next knife for consideration is also veryinteresting. It is tang stampedW.D.HERBERT. Goins’ book mentions thename and circa 1910 but provides no otherinfor-mation. I have yet to find anotherknifewith thisstamping, or thathas apunchlike theone onthis knife. There are several other featuresthat are unusual as well. The bolsters and
liners are steel, and the pinsseem to be steel as well. Youwould usually find this in a knifemade during a war when copper,brass and nickel were in shortsupply. And of course custom-made knives are often all steel asyou will see in the next one. Thepins are placed unusually aswell, with all of them being to
one side of the handle. Who made it? Whendid they make it? Maybe I’ll find out someday. If any of you readers can help, it wouldbe much appreciated!
The next one’s easy with its all steelconstruction.In fact it hasATS 34blades andsambar staghandles.Easy to dateas Bill Ruplemade it for
me few months ago! It’s one of my favoritecarry knives. If you are going to collect andstudy them why not carry one? Well madeand very functional!
Finally we have a nice little harness jackstamped SCHATT & MORGAN on both
blades. The punchblade is virtuallyidentical to theRobeson and Globeknives mentioned
Schatt & Morgan
continued on page 10
Case & Utica
Globe & Robeson
New York Knife& Zenith
W.D. Hebert
Bill Ruple
The History of CrackerJacks relating to theOKCA1893 According to legend, a uniquepopcorn, peanuts and molasses confectionthat was the forerunner to Cracker Jackcaramel coated popcorn and peanuts isintroduced by F.W. Rueckheim and Brother,at the World’s Columbian Exposition,Chicago’s first World’s Fair.
1896 Louis Rueckheim, F.W.’s brother andpartner, discovers the process for keepingthe molasses-covered popcorn morsels fromsticking together. Louis gives the treat to a
salesmanwhoexclaims,”That’scrackerjack!”“So it is,”says F.W.Rueckheim,who then hasthe wordstrademarked.“CrackerJack,” priorto being
associated with the caramel coated popcornand peanuts treat, was slang for somethingconsidered really great. Much the waypeople today use the word, “awesome,”people then used the word “crackerjack.”
1908 The song “Take Me Out to the BallGame” is written by Jack Norworth, whowrites the lyrics during a 30-minute subwayride, and Albert Von Tilzer, who composesthe music. Cracker Jack brand isimmortalized with the third line, “Buy mesome peanuts and Cracker Jack.”
1912 “A Prize in Every Box” is introducedwhen toys are inserted into every package.More than 23 billion toys have been givenout since 1912?
1918 Sailor Jack and his dog, Bingo, firstappear on packages.
1930s - During the Depression, thecompany that made Cracker Jack introducedmany new products, although most of themenjoyed only a short period of popularity.New treats included Cracker Jack CocoanutCorn Brittle and chocolate-covered CrackerJack.
From 1941 to 1945Cracker Jackbecame anational hero bysupplyingemergencyfield rations forthe Allies duringWorld War II.In fact, thecompanyreceivedthreeawardsfrom theArmy andNavy,including one for “high achievement in theproduction of materials needed by ourarmed forces.”
1955 Cracker Jack begins advertising ontelevision with the appearance of CrackerJack on CBS-TV’s “On Your Account”which is televised to 130 stations nationally.
2004 The Oregon Knife Collectors has aShow promotion that rewards “Cracker Jackpromoters” that request flyers by mail forthe Oregon 2005 Knife Show. An OKCAprize is in every mailed package.
earlier indicating that it is a Robeson punch.Otherwise the handle pattern does not matchanything I have seen in the several years Ihave been comparing knives. Although it isquite close to the way Schrade did things inWalden including the extra rivet in thehandle. The knife is well-made which istypical of Robeson or Schatt & Morgan. Thelack of a patent date or number suggests thepunch and of course the knife were madeafter 1922. Schatt ceased operation about1929 or 1930, so likely the knife was madeno later than 1930. But WHO made thatknife anyway?? Did Schatt & Morgan makeit in Titusville, or did Robeson make it forthem on contract? Or did Robeson sellSchatt & Morgan the punch blades?
A copy of a 1911 Schatt & Morgan catalogshows several harness knives, but none thatlook like this one. Their punches appear tobe of the flat-ground awl type.
So in conclusion it is not always clear WHOmade an old knife. Searching for the answersis immensely enjoyable and enhances theenjoyment of a collection, for this knife knutanyway!
Who Made These Knives Anyway?continued from page 9
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Loy Moss
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Display cases for rent
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- Sign up now to reserveyour rental display case for the 2005 Show. Thesespecial made wooden cases w/lock are 24x30 x2and rent for $30 for the three days. BryanChristensen makes these up just for our Show.Contact the OKCA via mail, phone, email.
Alpha Knife Supply - Providing knife makerswith the highest quality materials at excellentprices. Visit our website atwww.alphaknifesupply.com and browse throughover 65 different types of wood, carbon fiber,mosaic pins, talonite, titanium, timascus,superglue, Brownell’s Acraglas, blade steels, etc.Almost every piece of wood has a photo link onour website. We are continually expanding ourknife making supplies inventory. Most recentaddition is series of Knifemaking DVDs by GeneOsborn, Johnny Stout, David Broadwell andCustom Knife Sheath Making with ChuckBurrows. Gift certificates are available. You canreach Chuck, Brenda and Jessica Bybee @(425)868-5880. Look forward to seeing you inApril at the Oregon Show.
Harness Jacks or punch jacks,excellent + or better condition. Will pay cash, ortrade for pocket knives I have. I have about 200folders old and new to trade. Email [email protected] or leave a messageat (604) 649-6789 N
2nd edition Randall Made™ Knives'Quick Reference Guide', 12” x 25” laminatedfull-color folding document for identifying anddating most common RMK characteristics overthe years. $20 per delivered copy, payable toSheldon Wickersham, P.O. Box # 9651, San Jose,CA. 95157, or via Paypal [email protected] N
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Two piece can opener with the verticallift for the Remington junior scout the or thejunior RWB. Call Jim at (562) 438-8678 or [email protected] N
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(Larry Davis) has moved.We've moved the business from Sacramento toEugene. Although we no longer operate a retailstore, we'd be happy to show knife handle stockby appointment. Please call us (541)747-5725for an appointment. Thanks and it’s GREAT tobe home again. O
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. For sale: 2 grinders (2" X 72") -1Hardcore Grinder 1 year old variable speed 1.5hp with 10" wheel and other attachments. 1Square wheel with attachments 1 hp. -Forge 3inlets LP - Anvil 130 lb Mankel -Baldor Buffer3/4 hp -Mill/drill machine -Leather Workingtools, lots -Hammers -Handle materials exoticwoods stabilized ivory, etc.-Steels (various) andbrass -Other tools, and woodworking items -Toomuch to list. Lowell C. Lockett JS ABS(541)756-1614 or [email protected] O
Case toenails, melon testers, Barlows,peanuts, etc. Have lots of Case memorabilia,catalogs, decals. Have a lot of razor sharpeningstones in original boxes. Plus knife boxes,various brands. Contact Frank Miller (541)822-3458 [email protected] O
Rick Dunkerley, MS Knife. Here isyour rare opportunity to own one of Rick’sknives (one of five) submitted for his MS test –the Ironwood Persian Fighter. This knife is thebest of the best, having won “Best Damascus” atthe 1997 Blade Show and the 1997 OKCA Show,as well as the Blade “Handmade Award” in1997. It utilizes a Three Bar Composite bladewith a Mosaic core. The guard is Damascus andthe ironwood handle is fluted. Total length is 15inches; blade length 10 inches. Asking price only$3,499.00 for this unique knife. Robert Zielke(206)340-2008 (day) [email protected]. Digital photoemailed upon request. O
: Silver Trident rare dual signature knifesigned by both William W. Harsey and ChiefPatches Watson. These men are the designers ofthe famous knife made by Gerber. The knifecomes with a signed copy of Patches’ book
Contact Bryan at (541)895-2557 or(541)953-2456 For other knives and info go towww.signedknife.com S
by Norman Flayderman. 512 pages, over260 color plates, hard cover. This book coversthe fact, fiction and folklore of the world’s mostfamous fighting knife. Only $79.95 plus $5.00shipping. James D. Hayden Bookpeddler, 88360Charly Lane, Springfield OR 97478. Check orVisa/MC orders (541)746-1819. Info [email protected] O
on-line. Federal, state, local.http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/appr-k.htmBernard Levine (541)484-0294http://www.knife-expert.com/ S
Serious Victorinox-only collector islooking for used and new knives and literatureabout them. What have you? Contact DanJacquart P O Box 145 Cochrane WI 4622-7167(608)248-2794 or email [email protected]
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and GovernmentReports. Send $2.00 for a list of over 300declassified govt. reports and current listing ofmilitary knife books in stock. Knife Books - POBox 5866, Deptford, NJ 08096 or free via e-mailat [email protected]. S
One of only three Cole made Mark 2.These have been written up in Frank Traska’sarticles. Email for pictures and price. Tradesconsidered. I also have other Cole made knives.Doug Smith Fremont CA. [email protected] S
- Robeson whittler pattern #633499 inbrown bone. Should say Pocket Eze on theshield. Consideration given to one close to thispattern. ibdennis (541)484-5564 [email protected] S
a new book by EdHolbrook 112 pgs. Boy Scouts ,Girl Scouts,CubScouts, and Camp Fire Girls. Pocket knives,sheath knives, axes, 99% complete from 1910 todate + price guide $25.00 + $3.00 postage EdHolbrook 12150 S. Casto Rd. Oregon City OR97045
-New book,by Alvin Sellens. Soft
bound, 239 pages, this book is full of usefulinformation on markings, descriptions of theknives, period offered, and a price guide.Illustrations all seem to be taken from KeenKutter catalogs. $19.95 plus $2 shipping.Quality Blade Books, P.O. Box 41854, Eugene,OR 97404 orhttp://www.qualitybladebooks.com
Official Scout Blades
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December 2004Events Calendar
Contact Dennis or Elayne (541) 484-5564 for additional information on OKCAevents. For non-OKCA events, contact the sponsoring organization. Additionalinfo = (B)lade Mag. -(KW) Knife World - (KI) Knives Illustrated (TK) Tactical Knives
DINNER MEETINGWednesday Evening, December 15, 2004
Sizzler Restaurant1010 Postal Way
Gateway areaAcross from the
Post Office
6:00 PM DinnerFollowed by
meeting
Come Knifewith us!
Bring Show-N-Tell knife!
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Feb 12-13 - Arkansas Custom Little Rock (KW-B)Feb 18-20 - Dayton Ohio Knife Show (KW)Feb 25-27 - Knife Expo 05 - Pasadena CA (KW-B)Feb 26-27 - Keystone Blade Assoc. Show - Lewisburg PA (KW)Feb 26-27 - Atlanta Knife Show (KW-B-TK)---------- ----------
Mar 04-06 - NW Georgia Show - Dalton GA (KW-B)Mar 04-06 - East Coast Custom - NY (B-TK)Mar 19-20 - Western Canada Show -KXA Arena in Kamloops B.C.Mar 18-20 - Arizona Custom Show -Scottsdale AZ (KW-B-TK)Mar 18-20 - Ohio Spring Show NW - Wilmington OH (KW-B)--------- ----------
Apr 01-03 - Badger Knife Show -Janesville WI (KW-B)
Apr 09-10 - Bunker Hill Show - Bethalto IL (KW-B)Apr 09-10 - Munich Germany Show (KW)Apr 22-24 - NKCA Shepherdsville KY Show (KW-B)Apr 22-24 - Wolverine Collectors Show -Novi MI (KW-B)Apr 30-01 - Espolama Knife Show -Lugano Switzerland (B)
December 2004
Dec 11-11 - Oregon Winter Mini Knife Show - Eugene
January 2005
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Apr 08-10 - Oregon Knife Show - Eugene Oregon (KW-B)
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