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Page 1: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

David FisherCommercial Director, ABPI

PDIG Summer Conference 2008

[email protected]

Page 2: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Building Partnerships with the NHS

PPRS Renegotiations

Page 3: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Ministerial Industry Strategy Group

“There are a number of areas where increased dialogue and partnership between the NHS and industry would deliver significant benefits for Government, patients, industry and research.”

• A more ‘mature’ relationship can be developed between the industry and the NHS (at both national and local levels) through joint working on areas of mutual interest and benefit.

Page 4: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Why do it?The NHS in 2008 - 2010

• National standards, local delivery

• Professional networks and KOLs still important, but will increasingly ‘bump up’ against the local commissioning agenda

• Less clinical / prescribing freedom for individual GPs or Pharmacists

Page 5: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

The NHS of tomorrow..

• More contracted GPs – obliged to conform with local formularies (who writes these?)

• More ‘corporate’ and better informed

• More prescribers, but more controls

Page 6: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

“Significant changes in the structure and measurement of the NHS, and particularly the introduction of a variety of Health Trusts and new business - orientated roles in the NHS, have meant that there are more complex channels to go through to sell a particular product.

Managers in Trusts are increasingly focused on value for money when choosing medicines, which has an impact on what clinicians are guided to prescribe.”

Carolyn Hunt, Head of Field Force Training and Development, Pfizer (Pf March 08)

Page 7: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

TRAINING

ABPI Training for industry managers initiating and implementing joint working projects

Industry and NHS stakeholder training and support

POTENTIAL PROJECTS

Build on ideas arising out of NHS Workshop September 2006

Articulate the ‘win-win’

GUIDANCE and TOOLKIT

DH Guidance specific to joint working

Best practice toolkit on joint working for NHS and industry managers (on DH and ABPI websites)

Promotion and dissemination of toolkit at key conferences and other forums

Recommendations

Page 8: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

JOINT WORKING DEFINITION

Joint working between the pharmaceutical industry and the NHS refers to situations where, for the benefit of patients, organisations pool skills, experience and/or resources for the joint development and implementation of patient-centered projects and share a commitment to successful delivery. Joint working agreements and management arrangements are conducted in an open and transparent manner.

Joint working differs from sponsorship, where pharmaceutical company(ies) simply provide funds for a specific event or work programme.

Joint Working

Page 9: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

ABPI NHS Outreach Programme: What Is It?

• Reaching out to NHS customers that do not talk to / engage with pharma (‘do not enter here’ policies)

• Describing mutually beneficial ways of working to improve service / quality to patients

• Introducing companies to new NHS customers

• Facilitating joint working projects

• Learning and sharing what works and how

Page 10: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

NHS / Pharma Involvement

• 32 out of 33 ‘difficult to access’ PCTs expressed an interest in working with the programme

• 24 companies involved in N West• 25 companies involved in S West• 35 companies involved in East Mids

Page 11: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

What it isn’t

• ABPI constraining individual company activity (all are free to pursue their own agendas in parallel to outreach)

• NHS customers seeing ‘working with pharma’ as ‘working through ABPI’

• ABPI ‘pooling’ pharma resources to offer to NHS customers

Page 12: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

How do we do it?• Leg work and hard work• Establishing rapport and building trust (ABPI is

broadly trusted by NHS customers)• Working through their priorities and then

describing those that might be of interest to pharma

• Joint working not sponsorship – both parties put something in and get something out

• Agreeing the project design with pharma companies around the table thereby influencing outcomes, building rapport and trust

Page 13: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Challenges• Neither NHS customers nor pharma companies are

‘joined up’

• Communicating the programme is largely ‘bottom up’

• Establishing rapport and building trust and learning new behaviours

• ABPI Code of Practice?

Page 14: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Outcomes to date

• Programme well received by both NHS customers and pharma on the ground

• Helping companies think through the learning need of their front line staff based on evidence (what they need to know, how they need to behave)

• Asking NHS customers to promote the benefits of working with pharma (articles in the press, conference presentations)

Page 15: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Involving the right people with appropriate support?

“Need more senior endorsement, from senior to middle management. The local people lack experience and skills to release the budgets and marketing skills”.

“On the pharma side, by being a senior person, I was able to get the partnership agreement completed quickly, and I gained more from the project by knowing how to use the opportunity”.

(Pharma)

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“HDM has a different meaning in different companies - some are specialist sales reps, hence pushing sales; others are more project based”.

“The industry people are less experienced than the NHS people”. (Pharma)

Involving the right people with appropriate support?

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“Sales reps may not be the most appropriate people. Not sure why they were chosen, or who else is available in the companies”.

“It could have been helpful to bring in other expertise from within the pharma companies at certain times e.g. marketing”.

“Were reps the right people to have on this team”?

“When choosing reps, the companies should find out who would be best suited. Is it just the local rep who is being sent? This is not necessarily the best person. The same can be said for the PCT choice of person”. (NHS)

Page 18: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

What’s in it for Pharma? By working with the NHS to improve the quality

and quantity of care provided ……

• E.g. through provision of high quality education programmes to ensure staff are adequately trained to diagnose and treat patients; by helping to increase access and capacity of services etc…..

….will ultimately result in more modern medicines being appropriately prescribed and used properly

by patients

Page 19: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Joint Working at a Local Level

The Happy Hearts and INFORCE Projects

Page 20: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Happy Hearts

CVD Risk Identification and Management in Deprived

Communities

Page 21: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Nottingham City

• 325,000 registered population

• 7th most deprived LA in England– Just over half of residents live in areas ranked within the 10% most

deprived nationally (IMD2004)

• A city with low life expectancy– a 13-year difference for men: St. Ann’s (69) compared to Wollaton (82)

– 34% due to premature deaths from Cardiovascular Disease (CVD)

– 50% due to smoking

• Need to narrow the inequality gap:– Between Nottingham and England average

– Between least and most deprived areas in Nottingham

Page 22: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

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Page 23: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

We can impact on 86% of CVD risk factors

• Deprivation– poor housing and education

• Lifestyle factors– Smoking: 34% cf. to 24% in England - 90,000 people in Nottingham

smoke!

– Low levels of physical activity – over 180,000 people need to exercise more

– Poor diet and nutrition – only 1 in 5 people eat 5 or more portions of fruit and vegetables each day

• Access to primary care – esp. to cholesterol and blood pressure-lowering treatments, and

smoking cessation services

– Support for lifestyle factor change

Page 24: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

‘Happy Hearts’

• Targeted in areas of deprivation where CVD death rate is worst ( 13 Practices)

• Identifying people with >20% risk of developing CVD– 2 year project– Specially trained HealthCare Assistants– Specialist software to identify patients– Invitation to attend full health check– Supporting them to make healthier lifestyle choices– Referral for medical / pharmaceutical intervention as required.– Ongoing follow up and support

Page 25: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

What did Industry bring?

• Funding!• Business acumen and model development

– Evaluation • Defining objectives and measures of success• Marketing

– GPs and other stakeholders– Patients

• Increased Management Capacity ( for PCT)– Communications lead for whole project– Launch Meeting– Monitoring and evaluation support software

• Governance– ABPI support on developing and implementing clear governance

arrangements

Page 26: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

What did the NHS bring?

• Strategic fit with Health Improvement work– Organisational buy-in

– maintains top priority for the work

• Opportunity to roll out and model with other disease areas

• Epidemiological and clinical input• Buy-in from PEC and LMC

Page 27: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Patient Info Leaflet

Patient Invitation

Surgery Poster

Patient Treatment Folder

Project Materials

Media Campaign

Page 28: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Where are we now?

• Launched to patients Dec 2007• 12 month period patient identification and

management• Evaluation phase Dec 2008• Project write up and publication• HSJ and HSC awards submission• Significant interest from other NHS organisations and

DH– Example of good practice within DH toolkit

• Launch of second PCT / Industry Project

Page 29: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

INFORCEIIndustry and NNottingham NHS FFocus

oon RReducing CCOPD EExacerbations

Page 30: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

INFORCE

• Aims to reduce number of unnecessary admissions to hospital

for COPD exacerbation• Partnership between NUHT, NCPCT and Pharmaceutical

Industry via ABPI Outreach programme• 5 Companies ( different to Happy Hearts Members)• Audit of all COPD admissions between Nov 2007 and March

2008

• Identify commonalities in treatment prior to admission• NICE Guidelines benchmark• Review COPD care pathway accordingly• Re audit 12 months later

The INFORCE project has been developed in collaboration with and jointly funded by the ABPI Outreach project team whose members are the pharmaceutical companies: AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, GSK, Nycomed and Pfizer. The ABPI is the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Page 31: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

Process• Development of business case and proposal to industry

facilitated by ABPI• Steering committee with equal membership from all stakeholders

– Working Groups equal membership– Communications, Audit, Implementation, Evaluation

• Jointly chaired• Equal funding PCT and Industry ( £30k each)• COPD audit nurse via Ashfield In2focus• Audit in process, Results due July 2008• Wider stakeholder consultation re potential service / pathway

changes / improvements• Implementation of changes Sep 2008 AND Re audit Sept 2009

The INFORCE project has been developed in collaboration with and jointly funded by the ABPI Outreach project team whose members are the pharmaceutical companies: AstraZeneca, Boehringer Ingelheim, GSK, Nycomed and Pfizer. The ABPI is the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Page 32: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Governance• Before project starts:

– Clearly defined and agreed objectives

– What's in it for both sides – must be a win / win

– What each party is to contribute

– Process

– Expected outcomes

– Exit strategy

• Written agreement signed and agreed by all parties

• ABPI code requirements

• Funding process clearly defined

Page 33: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Challenges• Funding and Partnership Agreements

– Internal company compliance

– Sign off procedures and timelines

• Project timelines– Diaries and meetings

• Stakeholder Input– Ability

– Commitment

– Influence

• Cultural and organisational differences

Page 34: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Would we do it again?

Page 35: David Fisher Commercial Director, ABPI PDIG Summer Conference 2008 dfisher@abpi.org.uk

This project is funded by and developed in partnership with, The ABPI Outreach Programme Project Team whose members are the following Pharmaceutical companies: Sanofi-Aventis, Merck-Serono UK, Schering –Plough, Solvay Healthcare Ltd, Novartis Pharmaceuticals UK Ltd, Merck Sharp and Dohme Limited.The ABPI is The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry.

Yes!!Definitely!!