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CHEMICAL PROCESSINGOCTOBER 2015

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CONFIRMED MINUTESOCTOBER 19-22, 2015 PITTSBURGH, PA, USA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, OCTOBER 19 to THURSDAY, OCTOBER 22

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Chemical Processing Task Group (CPTG) was called to order at 8:00 a.m., 22-Jun-2015.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

* Hal Abel Raytheon* Tomohiko Ashikaga Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.* Cary Baker The Boeing Company* Malik Boutoba Airbus Helicopters* Craig Bowden BAE Systems

MichaelJeff

BrewerCerre

Spirit AeroSystemsCessna

Jonathan Chung UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)* Ron Cohen Israel Aerospace Industries* Mike Coleman The Boeing Company* Katelyn Crowley Bell Helicopter

Karen Dannis BAE Systems* Karyn Deming UTC Aerospace (Goodrich) Chairperson

Kevin Dowling Spirit AeroSystemsFrédéric Duhamel Thales Global Services

* Robert Faticanti Textron Defense SystemsJenny Fullum Parker Hannifin

* Laurent Geerts SONACADoug Hahn Gulfstream Aerospace CorporationPaul Hogben The Boeing CompanyJohanna Idung Carlsson GKN Aerospace Sweden ABDavid Isenberg Parker Aerospace Group

* Kazuhiro Kajima Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.* Martin Kolinko Eaton, Aerospace Group

Takuya Konno Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.Ronald Kramer Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation

* Caroline LeClair U. S. Air ForceMarc-André Lefebvre Héroux-Devtek Inc.Cheryl Lewis UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)

* Susan Lewis Lockheed Martin* Mihaela Lupu SAFRAN Group

Adrien Maffre Airbus* Nick Magnapera BAE Systems


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* Veronique Marcel SAFRAN GroupDawn Mastin UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)

* Steve McDonough Triumph Group* Marc Montreuil Héroux-Devtek Inc.* Andrew Murphy Jr The Boeing Company* Raj Nagarajan Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation

Timothy Nance Rockwell Collins* Jerker Nordh GKN Aerospace Sweden AB

Jim O'Shea GE Aviation* Jeremy Phillips Textron Aviation - Cessna* Josefa Rodriguez-Baena Airbus Defense and Space* Jonathan Scudder Pratt & Whitney

Dennis Slattor Bell Helicopter* Barry Snitzer Rolls-Royce

Xiaohang (Mike) Song Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation* Steven Starr Honeywell Aerospace

Thomas Stevick UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)* Michael Stolze Northrop Grumman Vice Chairperson* Yuhui Sun COMAC

Jeffrey Torone Triumph Engine Controls* Zia Usmani BAE Systems - MAI (UK)* Shawn Vierthaler Spirit AeroSystems* Michael Vosatka Rockwell Collins* Gene Wallace Triumph Group

Patricia Wesemann The Boeing CompanyRick Wire The Boeing CompanyKimberly Woodside Parker Hannifin

* Sergey Yesilevich UTC Aerospace (Goodrich)

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

* Mark Airey Robert Stuart Ltd. Matthew Akin True Logic Company, LLC Jesse Alberto Connecticut Tool & Manufacturing, LLC Leandro Aparicio Advanced Coating Techniques* Daniel Backus Har-Conn Chrome Company Tammy Baker In Tolerance Contract Manufacturing Ali Bakr Nico Products, Inc. Dragan (Charlie) Bencun Painting Technology Inc. Marc Blanchette CT Tool & Mfg. Co. LLC* Phillip Bratton Hohman Plating & Mfg. Inc.* Phillip Brockman TECHMETALS Inc. Timothy Brooks Advanced Integration Technology Tom Burgess Amphenol Aerospace Will Calvert Consulting

Lawrence Carlson PPI Aerospace-A Division of Integrity Aerospace

* John Carpenter US Chrome Jennifer Carpenter-McTyer Chrome Plus International, LLC* Stephane Chaumeil Galion Charles Costello Sun-Glo Plating Company Neil Cowan Nadcap Auditor* Peter Cox Central Metal Finishing, Inc. Todd Crawford GKN Aerospace - St. Louis


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* Jim Denton B-D Industries Inc. Sandra Emery Absolute Metal Finishing Sheldon Emmanuel DCI Aerotech Joe Flaugher Lord Corporation* Gary Fox Anodyne Inc.* Michael Francisco Stabile Plating* Christopher Fredrickson TECHMETALS Inc.* Nathan Gangloff RBC Aircraft Products Inc. Tony Garcia Blanchard Metals Processing

David Gray Mitchell Laboratories Inc. Paul Grillo Geater Machining & Mfg. Co. Mike Guthmiller Applied Aerospace Structures Debra Hagar NORDAM Interiors and Structures* Jonathan Hebben Circor Aerospace Don Horzewski ATI Forged Products James Howarth Advanced Coating Techniques Gene Hubbard RBC Aircraft Products Inc. Katie Jensen Magellan Aerospace Amanda Kirchner beyondRelations LLC Cindy Klingler Quality Systems Coaching, LLC Charissa Kobyluck Coating Technologies* Keven Kudelka Westfield Electroplating Company Casey Kulhanek Mico Machine Company Mike Kulhanek Mico Machine Company Superemaneyam Kuppusamy Upeca Aerotech Sdn. Bhd. Yanick Lavallée Alcoa Titanium & Engineered Products Angela Leone Lord Corporation Dusty Little Ducommun Aerostructrues* Jeff Logan Saporito Finishing Frank Lopez Semiray Special Process Division Stefan Lukas Bohler Schmiedetechnik GmbH & Co KG Jason MacQuarrie Lord Corporation Rich Madsen Blanchard Metals Processing

Rosa Martin Superior Plating Juan Moreno Omni Metal Finishing Mark Mougey TECHMETALS Inc.

* Simone Murphy-Fickenworth

Chrome Plus International

* Abdul Nathani Hi-Tech Metal Finishing* Dinh Ngo GKN Aerospace Chem-tronics, Inc.* Julie Nguyen Element Rancho Dominguez Robert Nixon PRI* Mike Noettl Magnetic Inspection Laboratory Inc. Chad Norton Asco Aerospace USA Brynn-Marie O'Neil Ellison Surface Technologies* Gregory Penny Black Oxide Industries Inc. John Peterson Wolkerstorfer Company, Inc.* Kim Porter Poly Metal Finishing* Dennis Reidy C.I.L. Inc.* Ken Rettger Lord Corporation* Jim Ringer Tech Met * Cindy Roth Team Industrial Services Frank Saenz Hi-Tech Metal Finishing Victor Salazar NTS (Nexus Tactics & Solutions)* Tammi Schubert Helicomb * Dave Serbousek Olympic Scientific* Ken Shouse Lord Corporation


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* Stephen Simacek Hytek Finishes Company David Small West Penn Testing Group John Smith Synergy Metal Finishing* Milton Stevenson Anoplate Corporation Dawn Stokes PTI Industries Inc.* Steve Stone Saporito Finishing Gigi Streeter Barnes Aerospace Bill Strong Epner Technology Inc.* Mitch Tanner Triumph Processing, Embee Division David Thompson DCI Aerotech* Jim Tuminello Tech Met* Awwen Tyrsson Barnes Aerospace - Ogden Victoria Van Patten SPS Technologies Costantino Volpe Senior Operations LLC* Gerald Wahlin AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.

Wilfriend Weber PFW Aerospace GmbH Noel Wessely Rexnord Industries

Noel Wessely Rexnord Industries Nathan Wheeler RAM Company David Winter Olympic Scientific Chris Wolkerstorfer Wolkerstorfer Company, Inc. Drew Wysocki H & H Engineered Coatings* Matt Zanolli Alcoa Howmet Dover Castings* Brian Zentis Lord Corporation* Blanca Zilli-Huerta Bowman Plating Company

PRI Staff Present

Ethan AkinsJoyce BenkartNigel CookRobert Nixon

1.2 Safety Information:

Reviewed Fire Exits from Meeting Room.

Informed attendees to contact Performance Review Institute (PRI) staff person with any emergencies.

1.3 Reviewed Code of Ethics (Referenced: Attendees’ Guide) and Meeting Conduct.

1.4 Presented the Antitrust Video (only at the first open and first closed meeting of the week for each Task Group).

1.5 Approval of the minutes of the previous meeting.

Motion made by Cindy Roth and seconded by Mike Coleman to approve the minutes of the last meeting. Motion Passed.

1.6 Reviewed Agenda.

2.0 REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS – CLOSED

The delegation trackers, t-frm-07s, of the delegated audit report reviewers, Mike Graham, Nigel Cook, Bill Dumas, and Robert Nixon were reviewed. They all exceeded criteria for maintaining delegation and the Task Group voted to continue their delegation.


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Motion made by Susan Lewis and seconded by Jeremy Phillips for delegated reviewers to maintain delegation. Motion Passed.

The tracker for the non-delegated reviewers John (Jack) Holman and Ethan Akins were also reviewed. There were no issues of concern.

Some of the delegation trackers were not completed correctly, they did not include Non-conformance Report (NCR) numbers or the actual comments made by reviewers.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to train the Chemical Process Staff Engineers and Consultant Reviewers on the correct completion of the delegation tracker. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

3.0 SUBSCRIBER AUDITS – CLOSED

There are no open scope exceptions.

4.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY (OP 1117) - CLOSED

Mike Stolze reviewed the auditor consistency presentation. The Task Group were green for all dashboard metrics.

It was asked if the list of 2016 targeted auditors could be identified by the end of 2015.

ACTION ITEM: Auditor Consistency Team to look into the possibility of identifying the 2016 targeted auditors by the end of 2015. (Due Date: 15-Nov-2015)

If you want to observe an audit then please contact Robert Nixon, [email protected], to help identify suitable audits.

5.0 RISK MITIGATION (OP 1110) - CLOSED

Open discussion on how risk mitigation is going.

Risk mitigation is a process used to close the NCRs on failed audits. Rather than being reviewed by staff engineers the NCRs are reviewed by a sub-tem of Task Group subscriber voting members. In Chemical Processing the typical mode for failure of an audit is excessive NCRs so there is significant workload associated with reviewing and responding to the NCRs. A large number of the subscribers present have participated in the risk mitigation process.

The risk mitigation cycle time is often significantly longer than the defined guidance in OP 1110. The work required to support it is beyond what people have available. The level of involvement mandated by OP 1110 cannot be achieved by the subscriber representatives and needs to be reduced.

Nadcap Management Council (NMC) are reviewing amendments to OP 1110 which will reduce the subscriber time required to review an audit.

Motion made by Hal Abel and seconded by Susan Lewis to notify the NMC (Planning and Operations Meeting) that we cannot support the process as presently defined due the time/cost required to support it. Motion Passed.

If you have ideas on how to improve the navigation menus and screen content, e.g. have the supplier discussion thread visible in risk mitigation team review, then please let Nigel Cook, [email protected] , know.

6.0 RESOLUTION BY TASK GROUP ISSUES – CLOSED

(Nigel Cook) Audit 167136: Nigel Cook reviewed the findings from audit 167136, RAIL item 145. It was agreed to close the RAIL item.

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(Susan Frailey) Observing Conjoined Aerospace Quality Systems (AQS) Audits: The AQS Task Group have asked me to remind audit observers to also sign-up to the AQS audit if they are observing a CP audit that has a conjoined AQS audit. You need to click on the linked AQS audit and complete an observation request, and observation feedback form, for that audit also.

(Nigel Cook) Complaint: A complaint was received from a machining company about the finish of anodized and colored parts received from a Nadcap accredited processor. The parts were initially rejected because the colors did not match that of the samples provided and then came back pitted after re-processing. The letter of complaint and the purchase orders and samples were reviewed.

None of the subscribers present had issues with this processor. It was agreed that there are difficulties in color matching of anodize and reprocessing of parts.

(Nigel Cook) Audit 170513: The auditor raised an observation because equipment used to control or monitor the control of a process did not have a calibration label. The equipment was uniquely identified, calibrated, traceable to its calibration record, and in the recall system. Neither AC7108, AS9100 nor ISO 17025 require calibration labels.

AC7108 para 3.10.1.a states: “Is there evidence of current calibration on all shop equipment used to set, control or monitor the control of a process?”

The Task Group’s understanding is that the operator must be able to determine the calibration status of the equipment by looking at it. The NCR is to be reopened.

(Nigel Cook) Audit 166702: The Supplier has had a fire at their facility which has shut down some of their processes (Types 1, II and III Anodize, Silver, Zinc and Electroless Nickel) but they plan to have them back up and running by the end of the year. Their present accreditation expires on 31-Jan-2016 so the plan is to grant them a 3 month extension and re-schedule the audit to January/February 2016.

Motion made by Jim O’Shea and seconded by Susan Lewis to accept a 3 month extension. Motion Passed.

(Nigel Cook) Appeal 2015-035: Supplier previously appealed against their audit failure but this was denied (2015-033). The Supplier is now appealing so that their audit, 166435, which is now “Risk Mitigation – Suspended”, is taken out of suspension so that they can respond to the NCRs within the risk mitigation process.

Motion made by Mike Coleman and seconded by Gene Wallace to take the audit out of suspension so that the Supplier can respond to the NCRs. Motion Passed.

(Nigel Cook) IR888 – Information was provided to the Task Group about a Nadcap accredited Supplier: Supplier processes parts to AMS QQ-P-416 but the required stress relief of 4hrs at 375°F

was not performed prior to plating as required by para 3.2.2. and has never been performed. The parts audited are customer hydraulic aircraft parts and 4 different part numbers made from 15-5PH CRES were all found to have not been stress relieved.

Hydrogen embrittlement bake after plating was performed incorrectly. For the parts audited QQ-P-416 required 8 hours at 375°F but the Supplier only heat treated for 4 hours.

Baking procedure control was not performed per AMS2750. AMS2759, no records of furnace traces have been retained. Customer requested for the heat treatment furnace traces/records for engineering to make a decision based on the data. As per AMS2759 there is requirement for records of time & temperature to be stored for future reference; however the Supplier admitted they did not keep any records for Customer’s parts.


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Produced falsified process records. It was requested while onsite that process records of batches produced were shown. After about 2 hours of waiting a record was shown, however this was found to have been just created, and had been falsified due to the fact that the original record could not located. The next day the original record was found and shown. The Supplier’s special process manager admitted to the occurrence of falsifying records, it seemed they had no issue with creating false records and for Customer it has bought their integrity into question as a Nadcap certified company.

Review of the Supplier’s Nadcap audits indicated that they have only one customer. In their Initial Audit there is a note at 6.1.3.3 that states, “During the audit, the supplier contacted their customer, the customer replied that the part need not stress relief since there is no machining/operation after part were heat treated.”. Review of all the Supplier’s Nadcap audits showed cadmium plated parts were de-embrittled for 24 hours at 375°F.

The body providing the information to be requested to carry out an impact evaluation and if there is any impact then they need to notify the effected customers.

Motion made by Mike Stolze and seconded by Jeremy Phillips to form a sub-team and treat this issue as an allegation of wrong doing. Motion Passed.

Sub-Team: Mike Stolze (Lead), Nick Magnapera, Michael Vosatka, Yuhui Sun, Nigel Cook.

ACTION ITEM: A sub-team consisting of Mike Stolze, Nick Magnapera, Michael Vosatka, Yuhui Sun and Nigel Cook appointed to review IR888 and report back at the next meeting. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

Risk Mitigation Training – Does anybody want Risk Mitigation training, if so take names and pass them to Mike Graham. (Yuhui Sun, Caroline Le’Clair, Dawn Mastin, Doug Hahn)

7.0 VOTING MEMBER APPROVAL & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS – OPEN

The following requests for voting membership were received:

Title First Name Surname Company Voting Member Type

Meetings Attended(Month/Year)

Mr. Barry Snitzer Rolls-Royce Corp Subscriber Voting Member (UVM)

June 2015

October 2015

Mr. Peter Cox Central Metal Finishing

Supplier Voting Member (SVM)

October 2014

October 2015

Mr. Andrew Murphy The Boeing Co Alternate Subscriber Voting Member (ALT/UVM)

June 2015

October 2015

Mr. Matt Zanolli Alcoa Howmet Dover Castings, Inc.


October 2014

October 2015

Mr. Ron Cohen Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI)

Subscriber Voting Member

June 2015

October 2015


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(UVM)

Mr. Steve McDonough Triumph Group Alternate Subscriber Voting Member (ALT/UVM)

June 2015

October 2015

Mr. Michael Francisco Stabile Plating Co., Inc.


October 2014

October 2015

Motion made by Susan Lewis and seconded by Cindy Roth to approve the above voting members. Motion Passed.

The meeting membership was requested to submit requests to become voting members using m-frm-01 at least 2 weeks prior to the meeting.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to arrange for eAuditNet to be updated for the new voting members. (Due Date: 15-Nov-2015)

Greg Penney has moved from Triumph Group to Black Oxide Industries Inc.

Jonathan Hebben has moved from Ducommun to Circor.

The compliance to voting requirements or present voting members was reviewed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to check on the meeting attendance records and voting records for Dave Serbousek and act accordingly. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

Jonathan Hebben reviewed the presentation on the Supplier Mentoring Program.

8.0 WATER PURITY FOR AMS2700 – OPEN

Mike Noettl gave a presentation on issues regarding the quality of water used for the various corrosion tests called up in AMS2700. Because of the relationship between dissolved ions and conductivity it would be acceptable to do a conductivity test to demonstrate the low concentration of ions (e.g. sodium, chloride). However the test standards for conductivity testing at low conductivity values are difficult to meet (re ASTM D1125 and ASTM D5391).

The recommendation from the sub-team was to amend AMS2700 to state that for immersion testing and copper sulphate testing water conforming to the conductivity requirements of ASTM D1193 Type IV shall be used.

Motion made by Mike Coleman and seconded by Jim Ringer to send the proposed change to Bob Koukol for inclusion in the next revision of AMS2700. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Mike Noettl to send proposed changes regarding test water requirements of AMS2700, water conforming to the conductivity requirements of ASTM D1193 Type IV shall be used for immersion testing and conductivity testing, to Bob Koukol. (Due Date: 31-Dec -2015)

9.0 CHECKLIST STRATEGIC PLAN – OPEN

Nigel Cook reviewed the present status of the checklist strategic plan. All checklists have completed the ballot process and will now start to be built in eAuditNet with an expected effectivity date of 03-Jan-2016, except AC7108/1 because it requires a 90 day notification due to technical changes for other commodities. Although for the other checklists the changes are non-technical they are showing a revision letter change so in the new Smart Checklist system they will


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go to full (standard) scope. For the new slash sheets AC7108/8 to AC7108/14, questions that were modified scope in the main checklist will be modified scope if in the main section of the slash sheet.

10.0 AUDITOR CONFERENCE FEEDBACK – OPEN

Nigel Cook reviewed the auditor conference feedback form.

Items for the next auditor conference:

Saturday PRI Presentations

Auditor Consistency – Mike Stolze and sub-team Other standard presentations (NCR writing etc.) Review of checklist strategy.

Sunday Presentations IVD – Hal Abel – (9 votes) Prime escapes, what sort of issues are the primes seeing. (e.g. top 10 issues) – Hal Abel,

Jeremy Phillips, Michael Coleman, Ethan Akins (30 plus votes) Cessna Specification System Changes – Jeremy Phillips. (6) Specification Status (Superseded, replaced by, etc.) – Mike Noettl, Hal Abel, Mike

Coleman, Susan Lewis, Robert Nixon (lead). (30 plus votes) Zinc/Nickel Plating – Mike Coleman (Lead), Jim Cummings, Ethan Akins. (20 plus votes) Thickness Measurement – Sub-team (20 plus votes) Surface Roughness Measurement – Karyn Deming (lead), Mike Noettl, Kim Porter, Zia

Usman, Mike Stolze, and Robert Nixon. (10)

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to send out a communication to auditors asking for items to be covered at the next auditor conference. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

ACTION ITEM: Sub-teams to start working on their auditor conference presentations and come back to the February meeting with an outline. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

11.0 CP/ NON-DESTRUCTIVE TESTING (NDT) AC7108/2 PROPOSAL – OPEN

The AC7108/2 and /15 checklists have been approved and will become effective on 03-Jan-2016.

The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) has been approved by both the Chemical Processing and Non-Destructive Testing (NDT) Task Groups and signed by their respective chairs. The signed MoU was passed to Joyce Benkart for updating of the MoU matrix.

Auditor training took place at the auditor conference and covered the new questions on inspector training and certification and job audit requirements.

The training presentation for audit report reviewers has been partially completed but still needs some details, e.g. process steps and example defects for anodic etching, that were to be provided by David Neal from Rolls-Royce but he is no longer involved with Nadcap.

Matt Zanolli, Alcoa Howmet, offered to join the sub-team

12.0 SELF AUDIT VS. INTERNAL AUDIT - OPEN

Mike Stolze presented the sub-teams work and recommendations regarding job audit requirements for a supplier’s internal audit and self-audit. AC7108 Rev G and the Chemical Process Audit Handbook define the need to do some job audits for the self-audit but do not require job audits for the supplier’s internal audit. The sub-team made the following recommendations:


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AC7108: 2.1.1: The supplier shall complete a self-audit to AC7108 and other slash sheets in their scope, in preparation for this audit. Include several job audits particularly if those processes are done in different areas, by different personnel or for different technologies (e.g. anodizing, electroplating, electroless plating, painting, etching, etc.). Performing a thorough, objective self-audit against each question in the checklist is the critical first step.

Audit Handbook: 2.1 Prior to the Audit.

It is strongly recommended that job audits are completed for each technology in the scope of your audit.

Job audits for the Nadcap Self Audit should be selected based on:

Rotation of Customers Technologies, Processes, Specifications Non-Conformance History Process Variability/Complexity Changes of Personnel and Equipment

Motion made by Doug Hahn and seconded by Jeremy Phillips to amend the Audit Handbook now and include the proposed changes to AC7108 in the next technical revision. Motion Passed

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to amend section 2.1 of the Chemical process Audit Handbook regarding the guidance on the number of job audits. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to amend AC7108 Rev I Draft to include the proposed amendment to section 2.1.1 regarding the number of job audits. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

13.0 NMC METRICS & AUDITOR CAPACITY – OPEN

Nigel Cook reviewed the auditor capacity graph and NMC Metrics. All were green except Supplier Merit which was yellow.

14.0 CALIBRATION OF THICKNESS STANDARDS – OPEN

Mike Coleman presented the sub-team’s proposal for inspection/calibration requirements of thickness standards. After discussion a definition for detrimental/excessive wear was also included.

Amend AC7108 3.10.1. (b) to state, “All test and inspection equipment, including measurement standards, used to accept product or control a process?”

Add new 3.10.2, “Does the frequency of recalibration/reverification of equipment and measurement standards ensure continuous compliance?”

Amend B.16.5.1 to include additional CAG, “Controlled includes periodic visual examination to ensure no detrimental/excessive wear or damage and periodic recalibration/reverification, see 3.10.”

Detrimental/Excessive Wear: Visual wear including scratches and wear such as creasing that does affect the accuracy of the standard’s measurement. If the test area appears sufficiently damaged then the verification standard shall be replaced

Motion made by Jonathan Hebben and seconded by Kim Porter to accept the sub-team’s proposal with the inclusion of a definition for “detrimental/excessive wear”. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to include the proposed changes for calibration of thickness standards into the next revisions of AC7108 and AC7108/4. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)


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15.0 NMC SUMMARY REPORT – OPEN

Karyn Deming presented the NMC Summary report.

16.0 SUBCONTRACT PYROMETRY – OPEN

Tammi Schubert gave a presentation on the NMC sub-team activity for subcontract pyrometry. No final decision has been made yet and the Heat Treat Task Group has been actioned to provide additional data where NCRs are due to errors in sub-contract pyrometry.

17.0 AUDITOR CONSISTENCY

Mike Stolze gave a presentation on auditor consistency. The Task Group was green for all dashboard metrics.

18.0 REACH – OPEN

Paul Hogben gave a presentation on the status of REACH for the Boeing Company.

Zia Usmani gave a presentation on the status of REACH for BAe Systems

19.0 REPORT OUTS – OPEN

Nadcap Management Council (NMC): Jim Cummings gave a report out from the NMC meeting.

Risk Mitigation to change to a staff engineer review process with a minimum of 3 subscribers approving the NCR closure. Suppliers will have to pay $2000 to have the failed audit reviewed with in the RM process.

A new Task Group for assembly practices has been proposed by the Sealants Group. Proposed restrictions on the number of Task Group Supplier Voting Members will not be

implemented but there may be changes on allowances for alternates. The need to conduct a self-audit to the Nadcap checklist is being standardized. He ballot process is being amended from 45 day letter ballot followed by 14 day

affirmation ballot if technical changes to 28 day letter ballot and 28 day affirmation ballot is technical changes.

Supplier Support Committee (SSC): Eric Jacklin gave a report out from the Supplier Support Committee (SSC) meeting.

At the SSC meeting there was a Supplier presentation on best practices for Nadcap and a presentation from a staff engineer giving their perspective on audit review.

They are also looking at having an SSC Breakfast where Task Group representatives can attend and raise issues.

A newsletter is being prepared and there is also an SSC folder with a lot of information. The Supplier Survey is open.

Aerospace Quality System (AQS): Mike Coleman gave a report out regarding his role as the AQS representative.

Looking at putting together a presentation on calibration requirements. In the process of looking at a new AC7004 with implementation in 2018 Are reviewing special process checklists for compliance to, and not existence of, quality

system requirements. Recommend that the CPTG amend AC7108 para 3.10 to require “Evidence of current

calibration for all equipment…” rather than “…on all equipment…”

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to include the proposed changes for AC7108 para 3.10 “Evidence of current calibration for all equipment…” rather than “…on all equipment…” into the next revisions of AC7108. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)


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Planning and Operations (P&O) Closed: Karyn Deming gave a report out on the Planning and Operations and closed meeting.

There was a request to amend the definition of a main site. There was a proposal from CP to allow a 90 appeal period for issues (e.g. escapes) that

affect merit due to the time taken to get design authority responses.

Chemical Processing - Supplier Action Team (CP-SAT): Mike Noettl gave a report out from the CP-SAT meeting.

The meeting was well attended.

There is a previous request for the Auditor Consistency Team to look to see if there is any correlation between auditors that do not attend the Auditor Conference and the number of NCRs raised.

ACTION ITEM: Auditor Consistency Team to determine if there is any correlation between auditors that do not attend the Auditor Conference and the number of NCRs raised. (Due Date: 20-Feb -2016)

Some anodize hot seals are not compliant to specification (cation). CP-SAT asked to look into this and provide report out at the February 2016 meeting.

ACTION ITEM: CP-SAT to provide more information on the compliance of anodize hot seals (cation). (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

Concerns were raised that receipt inspectors of manufacturers and design authorities were rejecting parts based on appearance but they are compliant to the acceptance standards.

Susan Lewis believed there was a MIL spec and NASA spec on acceptable/unacceptable visual indications. Let Mike Noettl know the spec numbers.

ACTION ITEM: Susan Lewis to provide Mike Noettl the specification references (Mil, NASA) regarding acceptable/unacceptable visual indications. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

ACTION ITEM: CP–SAT to obtain data including pictures, specification number and acceptance requirements of parts that have been incorrectly rejected. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

Some CP Suppliers are having issues with adhesion failures of water based primers.

A CTION ITEM: CP-SAT to provide more information on the paint adhesion issues for water based primers. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

AMS-QQ-P-416: The latest revision contains several errors in table 1a, de-embrittlement requirements and a new revision, Rev E, is in ballot.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to raise an auditor advisory to make people aware of the error in AMS-QQ-P-416 Rev D regarding the de-embrittlement times in table 1a. (Due Date: 15-Nov-2015)

20.0 ANY OTHER BUSINESS – OPEN

Audit 160074: A Task Group Review comment required this issue be raised at the open Task Group Meeting. An NCR was raised because the operator did not clean the adhesion test panel prior to adhesion tape testing as required by the internal procedure. The root cause was given as operator did not follow the instruction but further root cause was required, “Please re-address root cause. Blaming the operator ignores the quality and management oversight of the processes.”

(Nigel Cook) Taber Testing: [email protected] raised the following concerns regarding Taber Testing.



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If you are anodizing to Mil A 8625 it has a requirement for 10,000 cycle Taber wear testing with a maximum wear index of 3.5 g/1000 cycles for high copper alloys. The specification asks for testing to comply with Fed-Std-141 Method 6192.1. This is obsolete and directs you to use ASTM D4060. The problem is ASTM D4060 is designed for abrasion testing of organic coatings not hard anodizing and recent amendments to the test method make it impossible to follow the test method and meet the requirements of coating specifications.

The test method requires coated panels to be conditioned prior to testing by storing in a 23°C, 50% RH environment for a minimum of 24 hours. During this time, the hydroscopic anodic film absorbs moisture from the air and gains weight. After conditioning, the panel is weighed prior to testing. The panel is then placed on a direct drive turntable for approximately 3 hours (the time taken to do 10,000 cycles). During this time, heat from the electric motor beneath the turntable drives off the moisture in the anodic film absorbed during conditioning. When the panel is reweighed at the end of the test, you are measuring a weight loss from abrasion of the coating plus a weight loss from moisture. This combined weight loss exceeds that allowable in the coating specifications and is not a true reflection of the abrasion resistance of the coating.

As ASTM D4060 is designed to measure organic coatings, there is also a requirement to dress the wheels after every 500 cycles as they get clogged with organic debris and cease being abrasive. This is not the case with hard anodizing and to fully comply with the specification will involve dressing the wheels 20 times for each 10,000 cycle test. With requirements now to carry out multiple testing on a range of alloys every month, this is impractical.

In BS 5599:1993, the method for abrasion testing was given in the specification and uses a Taber test. In this version, however, the test panels were placed in a desiccator for 16 hours before each weighing operation to eliminate interference in the test method from water absorbed into the anodic film. This was a far better method as it was designed specifically to measure abrasion resistance of hard anodic coatings. Unfortunately, BS 5599 has now been superseded by BS EN ISO 7599:2010 which has a default abrasion test to comply with BS EN ISO 8251:2011. Manufacture of the test equipment detailed in this specification ceased just before the specification was published meaning most people have to use ASTM D4060 instead. BS have shown no interest in amending this specification when the issue of obsolete equipment was raised by SEA.

We are in the position now that you can either fail the requirements of the coating specification or not follow the test procedure. Either of these will trigger a major NCR in a NADCAP audit. Resolving this issue will require a further amendment to ASTM D4060 or, the better option, have specifications refer to a test method designed to measure anodic coatings where equipment is still commercially available.

ACTION ITEM: Craig Bowden to take the issue of the lack of an acceptable test standard for taber testing of anodize coatings to the ADS Committee for the BS specifications. ASTM D4060 is really for testing organic coatings rather than hard anodize coatings (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

(Robert Nixon) Impact Testing: What calibration would a Gardner impact gauge require (drop weight, impact rod surface, height, etc.). Boeing has requirements in their PS specifications for this as a periodic test.

Motion made by Mike Stolze and Nick Magnapera to set up a sub-team to generally look at impact testers where there is a lot or periodic test requirement for CP.

ACTION ITEM: A sub-team of Mike Stolze (Lead), Nick Magnapera, Jim Cummings, Steve Simacek, Andy Murphy and Ethan Akins was appointed to review impact testers used in acceptance and periodic testing for chemical processing and determine their calibration requirements. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

(Nigel Cook) AC7108 Section 5.4 and 5.5: When changing from AC7108 Rev F to Rev G the allowance (design authority exemption) to use an oven controlled to section 5.5 for temperatures


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above 121°C was removed because the definition of thermal treatment was amended to identify that drying was not a thermal treatment. Some suppliers have failed to recognize this change and it was requested that an auditor advisory be issued.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to issue an auditor advisory identifying the removal of the exception to allow AC7108 section 5.5 for furnaces used for thermal treatments. (Due Date: 30-Nov-2015)

(Nigel Cook) AMS2700: AMS2700 is confusing in its wording regarding lot testing and the Staff Engineers would like guidance on its interpretation. The basic question is whether a Supplier needs design authority approval to do copper sulphate or corrosion testing as a lot test.

The next revision of AMS2700 has just been balloted so we need to check the new revision.

ACTION ITEM: A sub-team of Mike Noettl, Hal Abel, Steve Starr Daniel Backus and Ethan Akins appointed to review the new revision of AMS2700 to ensure it is clear on the requirements for which test method to use. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

Succession Plan: As of February 2016, Mike Stolze will be replacing Karyn Deming as Chairperson. After various discussions with potential candidates Karyn and Mike would like to nominate Mike Coleman as new vice-chairperson to be appointed next February.

Motion made by Jim O’Shea and seconded by Jim Cummings for Mike Coleman to become the Chemical Processing Task Group Vice-Chairperson at the February 2016 meeting. All in favour.

Auditor Consistency: Regarding the 2015 Auditor Consistency Matrix, SAFRAN would like to add to the 2016 Criteria the following item. “If significant difference of NCR’s between two consecutive audits, Staff Engineer shall review the audit with fewer deviations and identify the auditor as part of the targeted population.”

We can define the rule of thumb as +/-3 findings will trigger the request for Staff Engineer to identify if the previous / current audit is efficient and auditor targeted.

The Auditor Consistency is looking at this and will consider for 2016, there were also comments that both auditors should be reviewed, also later audits are expected to have fewer findings and there are checklist changes.

ACTION ITEM: The Auditor Consistency Team to consider including an additional metric, significant change in the number of NCRs for consecutive audits at the same supplier, for helping identify targeted auditors. (Due Date: 20-Feb-2016)

Additional, SAFRAN would like to question: Is the audit scheduling affected by the “targeted” designation of the auditors. There is no indicator in eAuditNet if an auditor is targeted, this is done outside of eAuditNet and the list of audits is supplied to the subscribers for selecting audits to observe.

Audit Handbook Approval:

Changes to the CP Audit Handbook were proposed to clarify the scope for Independent test labs holding ISO17025 accreditation and the use of traceable standards to calibrate conductivity testers for the purpose of solution control.

Motion made by Steve Starr and seconded by Jim O’Shea to approve the changes to the Audit Handbook. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Nigel Cook to issue the amended Chemical Process Audit Handbook. (Due Date: 15-Nov-2015)

Audit Review Guidelines Approval: There are no proposed changes to the audit review guidelines.


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(Hal Abel) Electronics and Plating: Spoke to Electronics Task Group and they do not cover plating. Numerous chemical processes are used in the manufacture of electronic boards and parts. If Subscribers have issues then please make their Electronics rep aware of the issue. Several suppliers plate electronics components.

New Technologies: Brainstorm to identify any new technologies for inclusion in the Chemical Process audit scope. No new processes identified.

Approval of AQS MoU: No MoU to approve the AQS Task Group are amending their OP 1114 Appendix and removing the need for the MoU.

Henkel Rebranding: Boeing shared how they are addressing the Henkel rebranding issue. PFW confirmed that the materials they use are dual labelled, the old name is in the label footer. Any issues to be fed back to Andy Murthy in regard to Boeing tip sheet CP-TS-2015-003.

21.0 MEETING FEEDBACK AND DEVELOP THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TASK GROUP MEETING

Boeing presentations were well received. The Suppliers would like other subscribers to give presentations on their processes and flow down requirements.

Recent meetings have finished early on various days, could we not fill this time with sub-team/breakout activities.

Coffee in the afternoons Keep Monday as a closed meeting NMC on Thursday at February 2016 meeting Continue breakout sessions Review subscriber subject matter experts in the closed meeting.

ADJOURNMENT – 22-Oct-2015 – Meeting was adjourned at 11:00 a.m.

Minutes Prepared by: Nigel Cook [email protected] Benkart [email protected]

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