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    THE HISTORY OF EMOTIONS: AN INTERVIEW WITH WILLIAM REDDY, BARBARA ROSENWEIN,AND PETER STEARNSAuthor(s): JAN PLAMPER, WILLIAM REDDY, BARBARA ROSENWEIN and PETER STEARNSSource: History and Theory, Vol. 49, No. 2 (May 2010), pp. 237-265Published by: forWiley Wesleyan UniversityStable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/40864443Accessed: 29-04-2015 19:02 UTC

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    History

    nd

    Theory

    9

    (May

    2010),

    237-265 ©

    Wesleyan niversity

    010 ISSN: 0018-2656

    THE

    HISTORY OF EMOTIONS: AN INTERVIEW WITH

    WILLIAM

    REDDY,

    BARBARA

    ROSENWEIN,

    AND PETER

    STEARNS

    JAN LAMPER1

    ABSTRACT

    The

    history

    f emotions

    s a

    burgeoning

    ield-

    so

    much

    o,

    that

    ome

    are

    invoking

    n

    "emotional

    urn." s a

    way

    of

    charting

    his

    development,

    have nterviewedhree f the

    leading ractitioners

    f

    the

    history

    f emotions:

    William

    Reddy,

    arbara

    Rosenwein,

    nd

    Peter tearns. he interviewsetrace ach historian's

    ntellectual-biographical

    ath

    o

    the

    history

    f

    emotions,

    ecapitulateey oncepts,

    nd

    critically

    iscuss he imitationsf the

    available

    nalytical

    ools.

    n

    doing

    o,

    they

    ouch n

    Reddy

    s

    concepts

    f

    emotive,"

    emo-

    tional

    egime,"

    nd "emotional

    avigation,"

    s well as

    on Rosen

    weins

    "emotional om-

    munity"

    nd on Stearns

    s

    "emotionology"

    nd

    offer

    limpses

    f each

    historian's

    ngoing

    research.

    he interviewsddress he

    hallenges resented

    o historians

    y

    research

    n the

    neurosciencesndthe ike,highlightinghe istinctiveontributionsfferedy historical

    approach.

    n

    closing,

    he nterviewees

    ppear

    o reach

    consensus,

    nvisioning

    he

    history

    of emotions ot

    s a

    specialized

    ield ut s a means f

    ntegrating

    he

    ategory

    f emo-

    tion nto

    ocial, ultural,

    nd

    political

    istory,mulating

    he ise

    f

    gender

    s an

    analytical

    category

    ince ts

    arly eginnings

    s "women's

    history"

    n

    the1970s.

    Keywords:

    istory

    f

    motions,motion,

    eeling,

    ife

    cience, euroscience,

    oststructural-

    ism

    I. WILLIAM M. REDDY

    JP:Let us start

    ith n exercise

    n

    ntellectual

    utobiography.

    ou studied is-

    tory

    nder oan cott

    ndWilliam ewell at the

    University

    f

    Chicagoduring

    he

    late

    1960s

    nd

    arly

    970s,

    held

    postdoctoralositions

    n

    anthropology

    ith

    lif-

    ford

    Geertz t Princeton

    nd n

    psychology

    ithJerome

    agan

    at

    Harvard,

    nd

    started ut

    as a laborhistorianf

    France,

    ighteenth-nineteenth

    enturies. ow

    did

    youget

    nto he

    history

    femotions?

    WR:

    My

    research n

    the

    extile

    ndustry

    ttempted

    otreat his arliest fmech-

    anized

    manufacturing

    s

    a

    cultural ield. n

    other

    words,

    tried

    o

    understand,

    s-

    pecially, ow he dea of labor s a commodity" asembodiedn newritualsof

    measurement,

    f

    payment,

    f

    discipline)

    nd new social

    practices

    for

    xample,

    among

    membersf

    aboring

    amilies,

    r

    nthe

    olitical phere).

    n a

    second

    tudy,

    I

    tried o extend

    myfindings

    o thewhole f

    early

    ndustrial

    urope.My

    aim

    was

    1.

    I

    conducted he nterviews ia e-mail.For their omments

    am

    verygrateful

    o

    Christian

    Bailey,

    ascal

    Eitler,

    te

    Frevert,

    enno

    Gammerl,

    ngo

    Gildenhard,

    argrit

    ernau,

    obert

    eifeld,

    Monique

    cheer,

    Anne

    Schmidt,

    nd Eva

    Sperschneider.

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    238

    JAN

    PLAMPER

    to show

    hat,

    fthe

    very

    dea of "interest"r

    "gain"

    had to be

    culturallyritually

    and

    practically)

    efined efore

    t

    could

    erve

    s

    grounds

    or

    ction,

    hen

    ertainly

    so didthe

    oncept

    f "class."

    From here,decided oexplorewhat tmeant,nculturalerms,or societyo

    be basedon "freedomf

    contract,"

    s that

    rinciple

    as

    embodied

    n

    Napoleon's

    Civil Code

    of 1804. The

    study

    hat esulted

    omparedmarriage

    ith

    woforms

    of

    "bourgeois" mployment:

    hat

    s,

    salaried

    mployment

    n

    the civil

    service,

    and work

    n

    the

    merging

    ield f

    ournalism.

    he inclusion

    f

    marriage

    as an

    initial

    ttempt

    o

    bring ender

    ssues

    ntofocuson

    an

    equal footing

    ith

    ther

    ones.

    Marriage

    was

    obviously

    nomalous

    s a

    contract- nlike ther

    ontracts,

    its

    erms ere aidout

    n

    detail

    n

    theCivilCode

    and,

    most

    emarkably,

    he

    arties

    remained

    qual

    before

    he aw

    only

    ntil he

    marriage

    as consummated.

    n

    prac-

    tice,however,very ype f abor ontract ad tsownrich arietyfanomalies.

    I

    saw

    myself

    s

    still

    oing

    abor

    history,

    n

    effect.

    In

    all this

    research,

    was

    constantlylaying

    he

    dragon

    f "self-interest"-

    showing

    hat

    t

    was an

    empty

    otion hat ouldbe filled

    n

    practice nlyby

    cul-

    tural

    tructures,

    notion hat ad ts

    own

    history

    nd

    could notbe used without

    critical

    eflection.

    t

    the ame

    time,

    noticed

    hat,

    n

    gender istory,

    esearchers

    were

    becoming

    nterested

    n

    emotions,

    argely

    ecause

    womenhad

    always

    been

    consideredmore

    motional

    han

    men

    n

    European istory.

    his

    unchanging

    dea

    meant

    uite

    different

    hings

    n

    different

    eriods,

    s it turned

    ut-

    a

    discovery

    suggestinghatmotions ave a history.thoughthatmotions-whateverhey

    turned ut to be-

    might rovide

    better,

    more

    positive round

    or

    heorizing

    the ndividual han

    nything

    vailable o far.This new

    ground,

    hoped,might

    allow historianso

    get beyond

    he

    fracturing

    f social identities-

    rom

    highly

    complex)

    lasses,

    nto

    enders,

    thnic ndcultural

    rigins,

    aces,

    exualities,

    nd

    the

    verlaps,

    r

    intersections,"

    f

    these

    ategories.

    he

    inguistic

    urn ad

    helped

    forward work f

    destruction,

    aking

    t

    mpossible

    o

    conceptualize

    ocial ife

    n

    terms f iberal

    r

    Marxist

    heory.

    motion

    might rovide

    new

    underlying

    truc-

    ture

    hrough

    hich ll these

    omplex

    meanings

    e had

    discoveredndresearched

    becamepersonal. alsothoughthat istorians ere, o far, sing he oncept f

    "emotions"

    n

    an

    entirely

    ommon-sense

    ay,

    without

    ny

    critical

    eflectionn

    thecultural

    onstructionf

    this

    entral Western"

    ngredient

    f the elf.About

    1995, hen,

    beganworking

    n The

    Navigation

    fFeeling?

    JP:What re

    youcurrently

    orking

    n

    n thefield

    f emotions'

    istory?

    WR:

    I

    am

    currentlyorking

    n

    the

    history

    fromantic

    ove.

    As

    a

    follow-up

    o

    thebook on the

    history

    f

    emotions,

    am

    taking

    n this rucial Western"

    mo-

    tion,

    which as a rich

    history

    hat

    might ppear uite

    differenthen xaminedn

    the

    ight

    fthe

    heory

    f"émotives."

    n

    doing

    his,

    am

    also

    taking

    n

    the

    history

    ofsexuality,hichhas beentheorized or hemost artntermsf"desire"- as

    understood,

    nitially,

    n

    the works

    f Foucault

    nd

    Lacan.

    I

    think he

    theoriza-

    tion f desire s often

    nadequate.

    oucault

    nd

    Lacan,

    n

    effect,

    ookoverfrom

    Freud

    not

    uncritically,

    utwithoutufficient

    istorical

    nderstanding)

    notion

    of

    desire hat an trace ts

    history

    ack

    to

    Augustine

    f

    Hippo.

    Desire,"

    n other

    2. WilliamM.

    Reddy,

    The

    Navigation

    f Feeling:

    A

    Framework

    or

    the

    History f

    Emotions

    (Cambridge,

    K:

    Cambridge niversity

    ress,

    001).

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    HISTORY OF EMOTIONS

    239

    words,

    s

    very

    much Western

    onstruct,

    ndnot

    omething

    n which universal

    theory

    an be built. t does not xist lsewhere. he atest euroscience

    esearch,

    will

    lso

    try

    o

    show,

    s unable o

    provide

    s with clear

    understanding

    f sexual

    "appetite"rdesire,tsneurophysiology,r tsneurochemistry-nall likelihood

    because o

    have sexualdesire" s a

    cultural,

    ot

    hard-wired,

    xperience.

    I will

    how

    hat he

    European

    dea of romanticove was formulated

    y

    an aris-

    tocratic ashion-

    iterary

    nd

    practical-

    f the welfth

    entury,

    kind f under-

    ground

    movement

    f

    protestgainst

    he

    Gregorian

    eform's xtreme

    heology

    f

    desire.

    ove,

    said the

    roubadours

    nd their

    mitators,

    s

    sacred;

    t s self-sacrific-

    ing,

    ndcannot e a mere

    ppetite. plan

    o

    make

    point-by-pointomparison

    f

    this

    welfth-century

    ransformation

    ith

    welfth-century

    reatmentsf

    sexuality

    in Hindubhakti

    empleworship

    nd

    among

    Heian

    Japan's mperial

    lite: both

    were ocialcontextsnwhich love"was not ontrasted ith desire," ecause

    therewas no

    concept

    f

    sexualdesire s

    appetite.

    JP:

    n

    your

    1997

    article

    Against

    onstructionism:

    he

    Historical

    thnogra-

    phy

    fEmotions"

    ou

    described hat

    ne

    might

    all "the

    poststructuralist

    ilem-

    ma"- the oss ofa

    vantage oint

    rom

    hich

    ne

    can make

    thical-politicaludg-

    ments

    n a relativistniverse.3ou went n to showhow suchvalue

    udgments

    in

    fact

    rept

    nto 980s ocial-constructionist

    thnographies

    femotions hat

    ur-

    ported

    o

    have

    relegated

    hem o thedustbin f "ethnocentrism."hat

    you

    did

    was to advocate

    he

    ecovery

    f uch

    vantage oint recisely

    ocontinue

    he ib-

    eral-progressiveolitical roject utofwhichmany trands fpoststructuralism

    grew.

    And,

    ne

    might

    dd,

    contra he nsinuationf

    adhering

    o

    a

    natural-rights,

    anti-postmodernist

    rand f

    iberalism,

    ou

    once

    said that

    our

    utopia

    would,

    n

    any

    ase,

    ook more

    ikeJudith utler's

    han ikeMarthaNussbaum's."4

    n

    your

    article,

    ou

    hen ranslated

    heuniversalisms. socialconstructionism

    inary

    nto

    John

    Austin's

    peech

    ct

    theory,inking

    constaties"

    (utterances

    hat escribe

    the

    world,

    uch s "this able s

    white")

    with

    niversalism,

    performatives"

    utter-

    ancesthat an

    alter he

    world,

    uch s the

    bride's

    yes,

    do" at a

    wedding)

    with

    social constructionism.

    y coining

    he erm émotives"

    ou suggested way

    out

    ofthepoststructuralistilemma. ow?Canyouexplicatehis or urreaders?

    WR:

    First,

    shouldnote

    hat

    regard

    he rticle

    ou

    refer o as a

    preliminary

    formulation,

    nd The

    Navigation fFeeling

    f

    2001 as a muchmore

    atisfactory

    discussion f all these

    matters.

    The

    concept

    f

    "émotives"

    rovides way

    outof

    the

    poststructuralist

    ilemma

    only

    f

    one

    accepts,

    n

    advance,

    hat here

    s

    somethingeyond anguage.

    his

    does

    nothave obe

    conceptualized

    na Kantian

    way,

    s a

    Ding

    an sich

    beyond

    ur

    understanding.

    f

    one

    ikes,

    he

    something"

    hat s

    beyond anguage

    an be seen

    as the xistence f

    multipleanguages

    within he

    self,"

    r

    within

    experience,"

    orat east s a preconditiono the xistence fmeaningfulpeech. t squitewell

    known

    hat he

    oststructuralistonception

    f

    anguage

    ad ts

    rigin

    n

    structural

    linguistics,pecifically

    n

    the heories f Fernand

    e

    Saussure

    nd

    RomanJako-

    3. WilliamM.

    Reddy, Against

    Constructionism:he Historical

    thnography

    f

    Emotions,"

    Current

    nthropology

    8,

    no.

    2

    (1997),

    327-351

    4.

    In

    Reddy'

    response

    o

    Jeremy

    .

    Popkin's

    review f

    WilliamM.

    Reddy,

    The

    Navigation f

    Feeling:

    A Framework

    or

    the

    History f

    Emotions.

    -F

    raneeReview

    ,

    no. 119

    November 002).

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    JAN

    PLAMPER

    bson.

    n

    a recent

    rticle,

    argue

    hat tructural

    inguistics

    s a

    social-science

    is-

    cipline-the mpiricaltudy

    fhuman

    anguage

    se- andthe

    esultingheory

    f

    language

    s a

    hypotheticalxplanation.5

    f

    one

    accepts

    he

    pistemological

    erms

    inwhich t was formulated,hen ne ought lso to agreethat lot ofpresent-

    day

    neuroscientificesearch

    but

    not

    ll),

    because t s consistent ith he ame

    epistemology,

    s

    worthy

    f

    respect.

    his

    research as

    gone

    far

    eyond

    aussure,

    showing

    hat cores fdifferent

    odes

    operate

    n

    parallel

    whenever

    person

    per-

    ceives" n

    object

    r understands

    spoken

    r written

    ord.No one knowshowto

    read ach

    of

    these

    odes

    separately.

    ut t s

    possible- through

    he

    areful

    tudy

    ofreaction

    imes,

    vent-related

    otentials,

    MRI

    cans,

    nd

    so on- to

    detect heir

    separate unctioning,

    ndtheirmutual

    nteraction.

    e

    know hat arious evels

    of

    decoding

    work

    imultaneously.

    or

    example,

    person

    s

    already nconsciously

    guessing tthemeaning f a wordbefore aving dentifiedhephonemeshat

    make t

    up.

    These unconscious

    uessesrely

    n

    input

    rom ther enses:

    vision,

    smell,

    ouch- each ofwhich

    nvolves odes of several

    ypes.

    ranslations

    mong

    all

    these odes are

    being ccomplished

    t

    ncredible

    peed.

    It

    s therefore

    eaningful

    or

    nyone anywhere

    n the

    world)

    o

    say,

    When

    heard

    myself ay

    x,

    I

    thought,

    hat m

    I

    saying?"

    utting thought

    ntowords

    involves

    ranslation.

    istening

    o

    t

    as

    opposed

    o

    ust thinking

    t)

    nvolves till

    other

    rocedures

    f translation.

    ranslation,

    s

    many

    philosophers

    ave

    rigor-

    ously

    hown,

    nvolves n element f

    ndeterminacy.

    herefore,

    ny xpression

    f

    the orm I feelx" involves double lementf ndeterminacy,ecause t sabout

    that

    entity"

    hat

    ormulateshe

    xpression,

    nd,

    n

    being

    uttered,

    nfluences

    or

    changes)

    he

    ntity

    n

    question.

    motional

    xpressions,

    n

    this

    ense,

    re neither

    constati

    e

    nor

    performative,

    n

    Austin's ense.

    They

    re a

    third ind

    f

    utterance;

    this

    s

    why

    coined he erm émotives" or

    hem.

    argue

    hat

    émotives" re at

    once

    managerial

    nd

    exploratory.

    n

    emotional

    xpression

    s an

    attempt

    o call

    up

    the

    motion hat s

    expressed;

    t s an

    attempt

    o feel

    what ne

    says

    one feels.

    These

    ttemptssually

    work,

    ut

    hey

    an and

    do

    fail.

    When

    hey

    ail,

    he motive

    expression

    s

    "exploratory"

    n the ense

    hat ne

    discovers

    omething

    nexpected

    about ne's ownfeelings.

    But o

    get

    rom

    his

    oint

    o he

    uestion

    f

    political ignificance

    nvolves

    ross-

    ing

    wo

    more

    ridges:

    1)

    recognizing

    hat

    ommunitiesave

    huge

    take n

    how

    people habitually

    se

    "émotives";

    nd

    2)

    finding

    ome standard

    y

    which

    ne

    can measure r

    dentify

    motional

    uffering.y

    "emotional

    uffering"

    mean

    ny

    kind f

    distress,

    ncluding hysical ain,

    hat s attended

    y negative esponses,

    that

    s,

    that s

    truly

    nwanted.

    The firstf these

    ridges

    s

    easily

    rossed.As

    I

    have noted

    lsewhere,

    here s

    ample

    evidence n

    ethnographic

    nd historical esearch

    n emotions hat

    very

    communityeploys motionaldeals andnorms,ndinculcates orms hrough

    emotional

    ituals,

    ormulas,

    rayers,

    aths,

    nd

    so on.6

    5. WilliamM.

    Reddy, SayingSomething

    ew:

    Practice

    heory

    nd

    Cognitive

    Neuroscience,"

    Arcadia:

    nternationalournal

    orLiterary

    tudies

    4,

    no.

    1

    2009),

    8-23.

    6.

    See

    Reddy,

    he

    Navigation fFeeling;

    dem,

    Emotional

    tyles

    nd

    Modern orms f

    Life,"

    in

    Sexualized

    rains:

    Scientific odeling

    f

    Emotional

    ntelligencerom

    Cultural

    erspective,

    d.

    Nicole

    Karafyllis

    nd Gotlind lshöfer

    Cambridge,

    A: MIT

    Press,

    008),

    81-100.

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    HISTORY OF EMOTIONS

    24 1

    The

    second fthese

    ridges resents

    more ifficulties.he dea of "social suf-

    fering"

    as been

    widely

    ddressed

    mong nthropologists

    n recent

    ears,

    ndthe

    definitionf the erm s

    recognized

    s a

    problem

    f considerable

    rgency.7

    o a

    significantegree, ufferings organizednd varies nsurprising aysfrom ne

    time nd

    place

    to another.

    ormative

    émotives,"

    ften

    rescribed,

    ften

    epeat-

    ed,

    can

    be

    used,

    up

    to

    a

    point,

    o

    change

    how

    we feel.

    Nonetheless

    here re

    uni-

    versal)

    imits

    o our

    plasticity

    n

    this

    egard,

    s wellas a

    (universal)

    hysiological

    substratehat s

    manipulated

    n

    such

    training.earning

    he

    norms f

    a

    prevail-

    ing

    "emotional

    egime" enerally

    nvolves

    uffering

    nder certain

    iscipline.

    The kind f

    sufferingsually

    ssociated

    with

    iolation f

    rights-

    rom

    orture

    o

    genocide-

    s often nderstood

    yperpetrators

    s an

    extension f

    thekind

    f

    suf-

    fering

    nflicted

    n the

    nculcation

    f

    norms,

    s when ne "humiliates"

    political

    prisonerr"punishes"nenemy ation.

    It is therefore

    valid

    question

    o

    ask,

    n

    any pecific

    ase,

    whatkinds

    f

    suf-

    feringmay

    be

    legitimately

    nflicted

    by

    whom,

    n

    whom)

    nd whatkinds re

    illegitimate.

    here reno

    easy

    answers o

    such

    question.

    ut t s a

    proper ues-

    tion o

    ask,

    nd

    approximate

    nswers re

    extremely

    seful,

    oth

    cientifically

    nd

    politically.

    JP:How

    has

    your

    hinking

    volved

    n

    "émotives"

    nd the

    poststructuralist

    i-

    lemma ince 1997?

    WR:

    Since

    the

    publication

    f

    The

    Navigation f

    Feeling

    n

    2001,

    1 have

    pub-

    lished wopieces- alreadymentioned-hat how he ompatibilityfthe heory

    of émotives"

    ith

    1)

    a

    Wittgensteinianpproach

    o social

    ife

    in

    2008),

    and

    2)

    practice

    heory

    s

    developed y

    Bourdieu,

    Giddens,Ortner,ewell,

    and others

    (in

    2009)

    8

    1

    have,

    o some

    xtent,

    ried

    o

    keep

    track

    f

    the

    apid

    evelopment

    f

    cognitive

    euroscience

    nd ffective

    euroscience;nd,

    s discussed

    riefly

    n

    the

    2009

    essay,

    find

    much hat

    onfirms

    he ritical

    pproach

    o these ields aid out

    in

    The

    Navigation

    fFeeling.

    JP: "Emotives"

    ave been

    criticized or

    what

    ne

    might

    all

    linguistic

    mpe-

    rialism,

    or

    orcing

    he

    pecificity

    f

    verbal tterancesn

    such

    non-verbal

    ody

    practicess smiling rcrying. arbaraRosenwein,or nstance, roten her-

    otherwise

    nthusiastic-

    eview

    f

    The

    Navigation f Feeling

    n

    The American

    Historical

    eview hat

    émotives"

    privilege

    ords

    ver ther

    orms

    f motional

    behavior,

    ut n

    some

    ultures

    for

    xample,

    hat f

    medieval

    celand)

    reddening,

    trembling,

    nd

    swelling lay

    a more

    mportant

    ole thanutterances."9 hatdo

    you

    ay

    to the

    harge

    f

    ogocentrism?

    WR: It s both

    egitimate

    nd

    mportant

    o

    distinguish

    hose

    xpressions-

    er-

    bal,

    gestural,

    acial,

    nd so on- that erive

    irectly

    rom

    onscious,

    ntentional

    "decisions"

    made

    n thefull

    ight

    f

    attention,

    rom

    ther

    xpressions

    hat ccur

    inadvertentlyrwith nlypartialwareness. heformeran be "émotives"; he

    7.

    See,

    for

    xample,

    he

    nthology

    ocial

    Suffering,

    d. Arthur

    leinman,

    eena

    Das,

    and

    Margaret

    Lock

    Berkeley:

    niversity

    f California

    ress,

    997),

    s well as Ramu

    Nagappan,

    peaking

    avoc:

    Social

    Suffering

    nd

    South

    AsianNarratives

    Seattle:

    University

    f

    Washington

    ress,

    005).

    8.

    Reddy

    "Emotional

    tyles

    ndModern orms f

    Life;" dem,

    Saying omething

    ew: Practice

    Theory

    nd

    Cognitive

    euroscience."

    9.

    BarbaraH.

    Rosenwein,

    eviewof

    Reddy,

    The

    Navigation

    f Feeling,

    American

    Historical

    Review

    107,

    no.

    4

    (October 2002),

    1181.

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    JAN LAMPER

    latter

    annot

    e,

    for

    he

    imple

    eason hat

    émotives" reboth

    managerial

    nd x-

    ploratory.

    e utter

    or

    execute)

    hem n

    the

    hope

    hat

    ur

    ctual ull

    esponse

    will

    match hewordswe utter

    r

    gestures

    e make.

    Responses

    uch s tears ndblush-

    ing rewidely eportedobebeyond uch onscious, irect ecision-making.f

    course,

    ome

    persons

    re ble to earn

    o

    produce

    hem,

    f

    not

    t

    will,

    nonetheless

    with

    redictable

    uccess when

    hey

    wish.But even

    they

    o notdo so

    by

    direct

    voluntary

    ontrol,

    nlike

    moving

    rm

    r

    leg

    muscles;

    nstead

    hey ely

    n indi-

    rection,

    uch s

    recalling

    r

    magining

    n

    appropriate

    ontext. his

    explainswhy

    tears

    nd

    blushing

    ave

    often

    een

    onsidered

    o

    be marks

    f

    sincerity,

    rclues

    to

    an

    nteriortate he ndividual

    may

    wish

    o mask.

    JP: One

    could also

    argue

    hat

    émotives" ailto

    adequately

    eflecthe ocial

    situation

    n

    which

    tterancesre made.

    For

    example,

    he

    life-altering"

    eedback

    cycleput ntomotion y myutteranceI amhappy"nfrontfmypsychothera-

    pist,

    whom

    pay

    to achieve

    happiness,

    iffersrom he

    ife-altering

    ffectsf the

    sameutterancen

    anotherocial

    situation- or

    nstance,

    hen

    defiantly

    eply

    I

    am

    happy"

    o

    my

    mother,

    ho has

    ust

    proven

    o me that am

    locked

    n

    an un-

    happy

    omantic

    elationship.

    ome

    of

    hese

    ontextual

    ifferences anifesthem-

    selves n

    ntonation,

    odulation

    f voice-

    in

    short,

    rosody-

    but

    thers emain

    invisible.

    ome kindof

    contextual ector eeds

    to be built

    nto he "emotive"

    concept,

    on't

    you gree?

    WR: I

    completelygree

    with his

    bservation.t seems

    to me this

    s

    just

    the

    kind f ssue wishtobringn as a concern f research.t is perfectlyossible

    that ome of the

    prosody

    f an

    utterances

    chosen,

    ome

    nadvertentr

    uncon-

    scious-this s

    perhaps lways

    he ase. I

    would

    pply

    he ame

    distinctions

    in

    the

    previous uestion.

    he "emotive" haracter

    f an

    utterancer

    gesture

    rises

    from hefact hat

    he ctor s

    trying

    o

    accomplish

    n

    act

    of

    self-management

    r

    self-explorationy

    making

    t. The effects

    f this

    motive

    may

    show

    up

    in

    the

    utterance

    tself. ne

    might,

    or

    xample,

    tart

    obbing

    efore ne

    managed

    o

    complete

    he

    utterance,

    I

    am

    happy."

    JP:Another

    ey oncept

    f

    yours

    s that

    fthe

    emotional

    egime,"

    hich

    ou

    define s "The set of normativemotions ndtheofficial ituals, ractices,nd

    'émotives' hat

    xpress

    nd nculcate

    hem;

    necessary

    nderpinning

    f

    any

    ta-

    ble

    political egime."10

    ow,

    t s

    hard o

    avoid he

    mpression

    hat

    our

    rototypi-

    cal

    political

    egime

    s

    thenation-state.et

    this

    nation-states of

    course

    fairly

    recent,

    modern

    nvention.n

    manyperiods

    f

    history

    nd

    regions

    f the

    world

    there

    was no state

    whose

    tentacles

    eeply

    eached

    nto hefabric f

    social ife.

    Historical

    ctors nstead

    elonged

    o

    multiple,

    verlapping,

    argely

    ocal commu-

    nities.

    o

    quote

    Barbara

    Rosenwein

    nce

    more,

    venwhen

    pplied

    o

    centralized

    states he

    oncept may

    overlook arieties

    nd ocalisms. s

    it not

    ikely,

    or x-

    ample, hat ighteenth-centuryalons,maritaleds, nd awcourts- et lonethe

    homes

    f he

    aboring oor

    the

    atter

    point

    aised

    y

    Reddy

    imself)

    onstituted

    their wn

    emotional

    ommunities,

    hoserelations

    o

    the

    motives

    rescribedy

    'sentimentalism'

    or

    courtlyivility,

    or hat

    matter)

    aried?"11

    ow about

    using

    10.

    Reddy,

    The

    Navigation

    of Feeling,

    129.

    1 1

    Rosenwein,

    American

    Historical

    Review,

    1181.

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    HISTORY

    OF

    EMOTIONS

    243

    "emotional

    egime"

    n

    the

    plural?

    How,then,

    would emotional

    egimes"

    iffer

    from osenwein's wn"emotional ommunities"?

    WR: I am

    completely

    t ease with he

    dea of

    using

    the term n the

    plural.

    When firstormulatedt, nfact, was thinkingfthe thnographicontext-

    face-to-face

    ommunitiess

    in

    the lassic studies f Catherine

    utz

    or Lila

    Abu-

    Lughod.12

    t s

    quite

    lear hat motional orms re

    mposed,

    nd

    motional

    deals

    exalted,

    n

    small solated ommunities

    uch s that

    f

    the

    longot

    f

    MichelleZ.

    Rosaldo's

    classic

    1980

    ethnography.13

    noted

    n

    The

    Navigation fFeeling

    hat

    any

    ommunity

    hat

    xtends

    eyond

    ace-to-face

    ontactss

    likely

    o have

    many

    emotional

    tyles.

    would dd here hat ome of them re

    mposed

    n their

    wn

    context,

    hat

    s,

    have theforce

    f norms

    n

    that ontext.

    flight

    ttendant ho

    cannot

    e cheerful

    ill

    ose her rhis

    ob.

    But he

    ame

    norm ouldnot e

    applied

    toa basketballoach a group,ntheU.S.A.,notoriousor he requencyndbril-

    liance

    of

    their

    ngry

    utbursts).

    ome face-to-faceommunities

    ithin

    larger

    polity

    may

    be able

    to

    sustain motional

    tyles

    hat ave ittle

    n

    commonwith he

    transregional

    orms f

    that

    olity.

    f

    they

    nforce

    hese

    tyles hrough enalties

    such

    s

    gossip,

    xclusion,

    r

    demotion,

    hese

    tyles

    ount

    s

    "emotional

    egimes."

    Those

    styles

    hat

    re

    more r

    ess

    coordinated

    ith he

    motional

    orms nforced

    at the enter f

    power

    r

    authority

    f a

    polity

    ouldbe considered

    omponents

    f

    its

    emotional

    egime."

    JP: Whatdo

    you

    make

    of

    the

    vulgarization

    f

    such

    concepts

    s

    "emotional

    regime," hichmany istorianstripf tsdimension f "émotives"ndemploy

    to denote o

    more han he motional

    tyle

    f

    a

    group?

    WR: Our

    ability

    o

    grasp

    he

    political,

    n

    the

    way

    that

    Raymond

    Williamss

    notion f

    "structuref

    feeling" rasps

    he

    political,

    elies

    on

    our

    appreciation

    that motional

    tyles

    re

    enforced,

    hat

    enalties

    nd exclusion allon thosewho

    do not onformo

    them.

    Style"

    becomes

    regime"

    when

    he um

    of

    the

    penal-

    ties and exclusions dds

    up

    to

    a

    coherent

    tructure,

    nd the ssue of

    conformity

    becomes

    defining

    or

    he ndividual. or

    example,

    when wo

    persons

    egin

    to

    shout t each other

    n

    anger

    n

    a

    restaurant,

    he taff f therestaurants

    likely

    o

    ask them o eave. There s anemotionaltyle ppropriateo restaurantustom-

    ers.This s one of

    a number

    f

    styles ppropriate

    o consumers-

    lthough

    hat

    is

    permissible

    t

    a

    soccer

    game

    s

    quite

    differentromwhat s

    permissible

    t a

    restaurant.

    e can

    begin

    o talkof an "emotional

    egime"

    or onsumers

    hen

    we

    consider

    hat,

    n

    many

    Western

    ndustrialized

    ountries

    oday,

    ne

    might

    e

    deprived

    f thenecessities f

    ife,

    n

    effect,

    f

    one

    could

    not onform

    o at least

    one or twoof

    the

    range

    f

    emotional

    tyles umulatively

    enforced"n consum-

    ers.Even

    a

    wealthy chizophrenic

    ay

    need

    helpgetting

    ood.

    JP:

    A

    critical

    omponent

    f

    your heory

    s

    to be able to make

    value

    udgments

    about arious emotionalegimes." oucall theprocess fmaneuveringetween

    12.

    See

    Lila

    Abu-Lughod,

    eiled entiments:

    onor nd

    Poetry

    n a Bedouin

    ociety

    Berkeley:

    University

    f California

    ress,

    986);

    Catherine

    utz,

    Unnatural motions:

    veryday

    entiments

    n

    a

    Micronesian toll nd Their

    Challenge

    o Western

    heory

    Chicago:University

    f

    Chicago

    Press,

    1988).

    13. See

    MichelleZ.

    Rosaldo,

    Knowledge

    nd Passion:

    Ilongot

    Notions

    f

    Self

    nd Social

    Life

    (Cambridge,

    K:

    Cambridge

    niversity

    ress,

    1980).

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    JAN

    LAMPER

    different

    oal

    orientationsf

    emotions emotional

    avigation,"

    he

    availability

    of

    spaces

    or

    practices)

    hat educe

    oal

    conflict

    emotional

    efuge,"

    heresult f

    emotional

    oal

    conflictemotional

    uffering,"

    nd the deal "emotional

    egime"

    onethat ffershegreatestmountf "emotionaliberty."o illustrate,kulak's

    daughteruring

    he oviet ollectivizationf

    griculture

    ouldhavebeen hrown

    into ntense motional

    uffering

    ecauseof the

    goal

    conflict etweenove for

    her

    biological

    athernd

    ove

    for he fatherf

    peoples,"

    talin. f she

    obeyed

    he at-

    ter,

    hehad

    todenounce

    he ormernd

    ikely

    ause his

    physical

    nnihilation.

    he

    "emotional

    egime"

    f

    Stalinism ouldhavemade t

    very

    ifficultor er o

    prac-

    tice uccessful

    motional

    avigation,

    ouldhaveofferedittle

    motional

    efuge,

    thus

    mounting

    o

    a small

    degree

    f emotional

    iberty.

    t was a bad "emotional

    regime."

    s this

    fittingxample?Apart

    rom

    hiskind

    f

    goal

    conflict

    etween

    twoobjects f ove,what lse does "emotionaluffering"nyour nderstanding

    encompass?

    WR:

    You

    have

    offered

    s a

    quick xample

    case that

    s

    simplified,erhaps

    oo

    simplified.

    t raises

    many uestions.

    or

    example,

    n a

    society

    where hildrenre

    left

    nder

    arental

    are

    through

    dolescence,

    t

    might

    e thecase that

    hildren,

    given

    he

    power

    o denounce

    heir

    arents,

    ould ften se this

    ower

    o enhance

    their

    emotional

    iberty"

    is-à-vis heir

    arents.

    heymight

    lso sufferome

    guilt

    in

    making

    uchuse

    of

    heir ew

    power.

    n

    any

    ase,

    careful

    nvestigation

    ould

    be

    necessary

    o determinehe ffectsf such

    policy.

    n

    The

    Navigation fFeeling

    I argued hat igid egimes- nwhich motional orms re more harply rawn

    and

    more

    igorously

    nforced-

    will

    be less stable han

    oose

    regimes

    hat

    olerate

    substantialeviance.

    had n mind he

    ontrast

    etween

    heJacobin

    epublic

    nd

    the

    onstitutional

    onarchiesf

    nineteenth-century

    rance. t s also the ase that

    the

    rigid egimes

    nflict

    special

    kind f emotional

    uffering,

    ften

    njustifiable

    suffering,

    hat s

    sharp,

    ersonal,

    nd sudden- as when ne s

    udged

    ummarily

    by

    revolutionary

    ribunal.

    uffering

    nder heCivilCode of 1804- for

    xample,

    suffering

    aused

    by

    a

    long

    erm f

    unemployment-

    as more

    iffuse,

    ess

    easily

    defined.n

    addition,

    twas ess ntense ecause he ndividual etainedn

    array

    f

    choices nd shreds fhope.

    But

    one must read

    arefully. uring

    he

    Soviet

    era,

    for

    xample,

    t least

    n

    some

    nstances,

    suspect eople

    found

    motional

    efuge

    t their

    lace

    of

    work,

    because

    hey njoyed

    high egree

    f

    ob security

    ndbecause

    many nterprises

    "stockpiled"

    xcess labor

    n

    order o

    be able

    to

    meet

    productionuotas.

    Only

    experts

    n the

    fieldwould

    be able to determine

    f

    thiswere he ase.

    Nonetheless,

    it does not trike

    me as

    prima

    acie

    implausible

    hat herewas more motional

    freedomor ertain

    roups

    n the ovietUnion

    n

    the

    1930s

    han or

    many roups

    in

    Depression-era

    klahoma r

    Mississippl.

    Aparadigmoften se for motional ffortndsufferings the ase of a long-

    distance unner.he farther

    he

    runs,

    he

    greater

    he

    ntensity

    f certain

    hysio-

    logical esponses:

    muscular

    ain, ointpain,

    he ensation f

    acking

    xygen.

    he,

    likemost

    humans,

    ssociates

    hese ensations

    ith failure

    f

    self-care. outine

    self-care

    s a

    high-priorityoal

    for

    ny

    humanwhohas survived

    arly

    hildhood.

    Feelings

    f

    urgency

    nd

    anxiety

    rise s this

    oal

    is

    neglected.

    he more ntense

    the

    pain,

    hemore

    onvincing

    he

    mpression

    hat ne

    is

    neglectingomething

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    EMOTIONS

    245

    essential.

    he

    "anxiety"

    hat esults

    s learned-but t s a

    feeling

    lmost

    very

    healthy

    dult

    willhave

    earned,

    ne

    way

    or another.

    he

    competitive

    unner- or

    example,

    he

    Olympic

    ontestant-

    as

    another

    igh-priority

    oal,

    which

    s

    to

    win

    therace.Whenwe admire hewinnerfthiskind fcompetition,e admire,n

    part,

    hewinner's

    apacity

    o

    sustain he

    goal

    of

    winning

    hrough

    he

    frequent,

    intense

    nner

    oal

    conflicts

    hat

    ccompany

    raining

    nd

    performance.

    uppose,

    however,

    hat he

    runner ere

    rying

    o

    win

    because

    he was the

    aptive

    f a to-

    talitarian

    egime,

    nd her

    aptors

    ad told

    her hat

    f

    he ost he

    race,

    ne of

    her

    fellow

    risoners

    ould

    be executed.Whilewe would

    till dmire er f he

    won,

    we

    would

    regard

    er

    reatments a form f

    torture,

    nd her

    xperience

    s a form

    of

    "emotional

    uffering"

    rather

    han

    effort").

    It s

    not

    asy

    to

    apply

    uch

    abels,

    utwe must

    pply

    hem,

    r

    their

    quivalents,

    orgive uponmaking ny political enseofhistory.orexample, nepolitical

    stance oward

    modern,

    onscriptednfantry

    oldierss revealed

    when

    ne

    decides

    to call

    them brave"

    like

    Olympic ompetitors),

    nd

    quite

    a

    different

    olitical

    stancewhen ne decides o

    call them victims."

    I

    would

    all the

    winner

    f

    a Roman

    gladiatorial ame,

    whose

    pponent

    ied n

    a

    fair

    ight,

    "victim"-

    ven n the

    moment

    f

    his

    triumph.

    oman lave revolts

    were

    uppressed

    ith

    avagery,

    nd slave

    blood

    was

    regarded

    s worthless

    lood;

    thedocumentation

    n

    this s

    quitegood.

    A

    slave's

    high-priorityoal

    of self-care

    was

    simply

    ategorized

    s

    something

    ifferentrom

    citizen's

    igh-priorityoal

    of self-care,s somethingo unimportantt could be manipulatedo produce

    entertainment.

    ven if therewere

    slaves

    who

    accepted

    his

    s

    just,

    do

    not.

    would

    nsist

    hat ach human ndividual's

    apacity

    or

    ffort,

    apacity

    o

    suffer,

    be treated

    ith

    qual dignity.

    ere use

    examples

    nvolving hysical

    amage

    r

    endangerment,

    ecause

    hey

    re asier o

    characterize

    n

    a fewwords.

    ut would

    make

    he ame

    point

    bout

    nterpersonal

    motional

    onds,

    nd the

    uffering

    ne

    can

    nflict

    y

    heir

    manipulation.

    eedless o

    say,

    t s a

    challenge

    o

    describe hem

    adequately.

    owever,

    would

    ertainly

    onsider

    hework

    xperience

    n

    an

    early

    nineteenth-century

    otton-spinning

    ill

    s,

    for

    t least ome

    workers,

    form f

    torture,nflictedhroughreedomf contract.

    JP: s

    the

    amount

    f

    suffering

    ltimately

    etermined

    y

    the

    make-up

    f our

    brain? ut

    differently,

    s there

    ucha

    thing

    s "hard-wired"

    oundaries o emo-

    tional

    avigation,

    n absolute

    imit

    eyond

    which

    ufferingnvariablyegins?

    Or

    is

    there nlimited

    pace

    for

    ndividual nd

    cultural

    gency-

    after

    ll,

    who

    s to

    decide

    what

    uffering

    eansfor

    givenperson

    for

    xample,

    masochist)

    r

    a

    given

    ulture

    for

    xample,

    ne

    that

    uts

    premium

    n

    suffering,

    uch

    s an

    order

    of

    self-flagellating

    onks)?

    WR: The

    answer

    o

    this

    uestion

    s

    implied

    n

    myprevious

    esponses.

    very-

    things, na way, eterminedythemake-up fthebrain.nanotherense, he

    answer o

    this

    uestion

    emains

    nclear. t seems o me

    ikely

    hat ommunities

    have ometimes

    rained

    ndividuals,

    ywell-organizedepetition

    f situations

    n-

    volving

    ntense

    ain

    or

    physical

    rauma,

    o tolerate

    uch

    pain

    and traumawith

    only light

    emotional

    uffering,"

    n

    the

    ense

    f

    goal

    conflict.

    ulius

    aesar

    obvi-

    ously

    had

    many

    uch

    veterans

    n

    his

    egions

    when

    he

    finally

    rossed

    heRubicon.

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    246

    JAN

    PLAMPER

    But,

    s

    with

    Caesar's

    legions,

    he

    raining

    f such

    persons enerally

    nvolves

    winnowingrocess.

    hose

    whocannot ustain he

    process

    all

    by

    the

    wayside.14

    JP:The

    greatest

    mount f emotional

    iberty,

    hen,

    eems

    o obtain

    n

    liberal,

    democraticocietieswith trongminorityights. hat s, in the dealsociety f

    many olitically rogressive

    esterners.

    sn't his

    ircular?

    WR:

    would

    ay

    hat tremains

    o

    be seen

    how

    best

    o

    ensure hat ach

    person's

    capacity

    or motional

    uffering

    s treatedwith

    qual dignity.

    f

    some Western

    democratic

    egimes

    ave come closerto this deal

    than

    arlier

    uropean

    mon-

    archies r concurrententralizedocialist

    egimes,

    t has been at east n

    part y

    accident. here s

    quite

    a bit

    of emotional

    uffering

    nvolved

    n

    conforming

    o

    thenorms f the

    rational,

    elf-interested

    ndividual hat

    hese

    regimes,

    n

    prin-

    ciple,

    have etout o "liberate"

    s if uch individuals" ere

    given

    n nature. he

    amount f ufferingaries normouslyy ocioeconomictatus; yracial, thnic,

    and

    gender dentity;y

    the conomic

    onjoncture;

    nd

    n

    accord

    with

    variety

    of other

    ircumstances.here re

    over

    a hundredhousand

    chizophrenics

    ho

    live as

    homeless

    ersons

    n

    the treets f theU.S.

    today,

    withoutmedication

    r

    care-

    just

    to

    take

    ne

    example.

    JP:One

    might

    onder

    whyyou

    choseto first

    ay

    outa

    specific

    ognitive sy-

    chological heory

    femotions

    nd

    then o

    say

    that

    certain

    ype

    f

    polity

    estfits

    this

    heory

    ecause t llowsfor maximumfemotional

    efuge, avigation,

    nd

    liberty,reating

    minimum

    f

    suffering.

    n

    alternative ouldhave beento

    first

    spell utyour olitical-ethicalalues ndthenosaythat certain rand fcogni-

    tive

    psychology

    est

    fits

    hese

    olitical-ethical

    alues.Whatdo

    you

    think?

    WR:

    My

    intention

    as been

    to

    find,

    atherhan

    o

    ay

    outa

    priori,

    mypoliti-

    cal-ethical alues

    through process

    f critical

    eading

    f neuroscience

    esearch,

    motivated

    y

    sense

    ffrustration

    ith he

    andscape

    eft s

    by

    poststructuralism.

    I

    havetried o share his

    rocess

    with nterestedeaders.

    JP:

    n

    my

    view,

    he architecturef The

    Navigation f Feeling

    follows wo

    complementary

    rinciples:

    1)

    dialectical nd

    2)

    in

    thevein

    of

    deductive

    ocial

    science.

    1)

    Dialectical: irsthere s theuniversalisthesis

    chapter

    ,

    "Answers

    from ognitive sychology"),hen he onstructionistntithesischapter,"An-

    swersfrom

    nthropology"),

    hich s then

    ufgehoben

    n

    a historical

    ynthesis

    of the motions

    chapters

    -3,

    "Emotional

    xpression

    s a

    Type

    of

    Speech

    Act"

    and

    "Emotional

    iberty").

    2)

    Deductive

    ocial

    science:

    part

    ("What

    Are

    Emo-

    tions?")

    ays

    out

    the

    heory,

    hich s then

    pplied

    o "historical

    ata" n

    part

    I

    ("Emotions

    n

    History:

    rance,

    1700-1850").

    Anotherndication f

    thebook's

    social-science

    feel" s its

    mode

    of

    exposition,

    hich s

    lucid,

    argon-free,

    nd

    bereftf

    rony

    r

    postmodern

    anguage ames.

    Do

    you gree

    with his

    escription

    of

    your

    ook's

    architecture?

    WR: I agreewithyour haracterizationf thework s "dialectical," ith he

    proviso

    hat he

    ynthesis

    f

    critical

    eadings

    fboth

    sychological

    nd

    nthropo-

    logical

    research

    ies

    not

    n

    historical

    nderstanding,

    ut

    n

    the

    oncept

    f "émo-

    tives,"

    which

    makes

    history

    femotions

    hinkable.

    do

    not onsider hemethod

    14.

    For

    a related

    xample,

    f.

    Harvey

    Whitehouse,

    Rites of Terror:

    motion,

    Metaphor

    nd

    Memory

    n

    Melanesian nitiation

    ults,"

    Journal

    f

    the

    Royal Anthropological

    nstitute

    (1996),

    703-715.

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    248

    JAN

    PLAMPER

    such a

    profound nowledge

    f

    ife cience?

    Do

    you

    recommendhatwe

    all

    go

    there,

    much ike

    historians

    uring

    he

    1970s

    got

    nto

    emography

    r

    statistics,

    nd

    during

    he

    1980s nto

    iterary

    cholarship?

    WR: I do notrecommendhat ll historiansmmerse hemselvesncognitive

    psychology

    r neuroscience

    esearch.

    owever,

    t

    s worth

    oting

    hat ociolo-

    gists, olitical

    cientists,

    nd economistsre

    actively eveloping

    ubfields,

    uch

    as the

    ne

    called

    behavioral

    conomics,"

    hat

    ely

    n

    cognitive

    euroscienceor

    their esearch

    aradigms.

    do think hat he

    discipline

    f

    history

    ouldbenefit

    n

    similar

    ashion.

    tthe ame

    ime,

    also think hat t s a seriousmistake

    o

    simply

    "utilize"

    ncritically

    heresults f research

    n

    this ield. he

    reason

    s that hese

    results re

    lways xpressed

    n terms f

    models

    hat re

    constructed

    d

    hoc.

    There

    is

    no

    general

    model f

    cognition

    r of

    brain

    unctioning

    hat istoriansan "bor-

    row."There remany,manymodels; hey avetheir wn abs,conferences,nd

    journals,

    heir

    wn

    eaders nd

    followers,

    heir

    wn "handbooks." ome

    promi-

    nent

    ecentmodels

    re

    cascade

    processing,"

    mirror

    eurons,"

    emotion

    egula-

    tion,"

    mental

    ontrol,"

    the hameleon

    ffect,"

    nd o on. Hundreds fstudies f

    emotion-cognition

    nteractionavebeenbuilt n the

    well-known

    Stroop

    ffect,"

    first

    dentified

    n the

    1930s. How

    these

    variousmodels

    fit

    ogether

    s a

    subject

    of

    constant

    iscussion

    t conferencesnd

    n

    occasional

    nthologies

    f

    synthetic

    essays-

    but see

    no

    sign

    of

    progress

    oward

    single,

    verarching

    heory.

    ost

    practitioners

    re

    acutely

    ware

    f

    this

    roblem.

    ome of thesemodelshave

    quite

    differentpistemologicalmplicationsrom thers- nd this s significanthen

    one tries o translateuch

    model

    foruse in

    interpretive

    ork-

    Geisteswissen-

    schaft-

    'xch s

    history.

    JP:More

    generally,

    hatdo

    you

    think f theuse

    of ife-sciencemotions e-

    search

    y

    other istorians? hatdo

    you

    think

    f

    such

    popularizers"

    s Antonio

    Damasio,

    fthe

    phenomenon

    f

    popularizing?

    WR:

    My

    principal

    rustration

    ith

    eading opularizers

    s that

    hey

    ffer

    can-

    didate

    heory

    o

    explain

    he

    trends

    n

    research

    s if

    this andidatewere

    lready

    recognized

    s the

    unchallenged,

    ew

    explanation

    f brain nd mind

    unctioning.

    They ystematicallyownplayhe iversityf he esearch,norder oextrapolate

    dramaticnswers rom selectnumber f

    recent,

    ashionable

    reakthroughs.

    JP:How do

    you explain

    he urrent

    oom

    n

    the

    history

    f emotions?Would

    you

    call this

    "turn"?

    WR: I have been

    very ratified

    o

    see the

    growing

    nterest

    f historians

    n

    the

    history

    femotions

    n

    recent

    ears. erhaps

    t s

    not

    yet

    "turn,"

    ut t s

    certainly

    a trend. think

    my riginal

    easons

    or

    ttempting

    o

    move

    n this

    irection

    dis-

    cussed

    bove)

    havebeen

    widely

    hared.

    JP:Which reas hould

    heory-building

    n the

    history

    femotions ocus n?

    WR: Two "state f the rt" ecenttudies reBarbaraRosenwein's motional

    Communities

    n the

    arly

    Middle

    Ages

    nd

    NicoleEustace'sPassion s theGale:

    Emotion, ower,

    nd the

    Coming f

    theAmerican evolution}* oth of

    these

    studies

    xamine

    ffortful

    elf-management

    and

    ts

    failures)

    n

    relationo

    political

    18. BarbaraH.

    Rosenwein,

    motional ommunities

    n

    the

    arly

    Middle

    Ages

    Ithaca,

    NY: Cornell

    University

    ress,

    006);

    Nicole

    Eustace,

    assion s the

    Gale:

    Emotion, ower,

    nd the

    Coming f

    he

    American evolution

    Chapel

    Hill:

    University

    f North arolina

    ress,

    008).

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    HISTORY OF EMOTIONS

    249

    power.

    his s the ore ssue.

    And,

    s

    your uestions

    n

    this nterview

    ndicate,

    great

    eal needs o be

    specified

    more

    learly

    n

    this rea.Both heoretical

    eflec-

    tion

    ndresearch

    ill

    help.

    JP: n which irectionhould hefutureistoryf emotionsmove?

    WR:

    I

    hope

    historians

    ill

    not

    reat he

    history

    femotions

    s a

    special

    ubfield

    in the

    tudy

    f well-documentedristocratic

    litesor educated lites.

    Certainly,

    we need to

    study

    etters nd

    ournals,marriage

    manuals,wills,

    criminal ourt

    records. ut

    there s much

    more

    o the

    history

    f emotions.

    n

    the ase

    study

    f

    civil

    itigation

    hat carried ut n

    early

    ineteenth-century

    rance,

    took

    broad

    swath f

    materialshat ad

    nothing

    o do

    with he

    subjective"

    ealm

    r

    "personal

    life" s these re

    conventionally

    nderstood.found

    ome

    very urprising

    ses

    of

    emotional

    ocabulary

    nd

    expressive

    modes

    hat

    ointed

    oward therwise

    nvis-

    ible ssues- such s the apacity f awyersoexperiencemotions or heir li-

    ents,

    r he

    vestiges"

    f entimentalism

    n

    the

    waypeople

    f

    he1 20s and

    1

    30s

    thought

    bout

    enerosity

    r ove.

    The

    history

    femotions

    s a

    way

    of

    doing oliti-

    cal,

    social,

    nd

    cultural

    istory,

    ot

    omething

    o

    be added o

    existing

    ields.

    II. BARBARA H. ROSENWEIN

    JP:

    Let us start

    ith n exercise

    n ntellectual

    utobiography.

    ou

    were

    rained

    as a

    medievalistt

    the

    University

    f

    Chicago

    n the ate

    1960s

    and

    early

    1970s,

    and moved o thehistoryf emotionsnlyduringhe 1990s. How didyou get

    there?

    BR: I've

    always

    been

    a historian

    irst,

    medievalist

    y specialization.

    here

    is

    a constant

    n

    my

    ntellectual

    areer hat

    mayhelp explain

    how

    turned

    rom

    medievalmonasticism

    o emotions:

    have

    always

    been

    nterested

    n the

    multiple

    and sometimes

    idden

    meanings

    n

    human

    hought,

    ehavior,

    nd institutions.

    You

    can see

    this

    n

    my very

    irst

    rticle,

    whichhad the

    title Feudal

    War and

    Monastic

    eace: Cluniac

    Liturgy

    s

    Ritual

    Aggression."19

    y

    second

    rticle,

    o-

    authored

    ith ester

    K.

    Little,

    ook

    up

    the Social

    Meaning

    n theMonastic

    nd

    Mendicantpiritualities."20efore urningoemotions,wrote ooks n the on-

    nection f Cluniac

    monasticism

    o ssuesof anomie

    nd social

    affiliation.21

    nd

    when looked

    t medieval

    mmunities,

    hichwere

    documents

    ssued

    by kings

    to

    prevent

    heir wn

    personnel

    rom

    ntering

    ertain erritories

    o

    carry

    ut

    their

    normal

    uties,

    considered

    his ot

    as

    most

    istorians

    ad

    done)

    s

    a

    symptom

    f

    royal

    weakness

    ut athers

    a

    way

    for

    ulers o

    proclaim

    he ort f

    power

    hat s

    inherent

    n the

    declarationf

    tapu

    taboo).22

    19.BarbaraH. Rosenwein, FeudalWar and Monastic eace: CluniacLiturgys RitualAggres-

    sion,"

    Viator

    (1971),

    129-157.

    20.

    Barbara

    H.

    Rosenwein

    nd

    LesterK.

    Little,

    Social

    Meaning

    n

    theMonastic

    nd Mendicant

    Spiritualities,"

    ast and

    Present,

    o. 63

    (1974),

    4-32.

    21.

    Barbara H.

    Rosenwein,

    Rhinoceros

    Bound:

    Cluny

    n

    the Tenth

    Century

    Philadelphia:

    University

    f

    Pennsylvania

    ress,

    982);

    dem,

    o Be the

    Neighbor

    f

    St.

    Peter:

    The

    Social

    Meaning

    ofClunyy

    Property,

    09-1049

    Ithaca,

    NY:

    Cornell

    University

    ress,

    989).

    22. Barbara

    H.

    Rosenwein,

    egotiating

    pace:

    Power,Restraint,

    nd

    Privileges f

    mmunity

    n

    Early

    Medieval

    urope

    Ithaca,

    NY: Cornell

    University

    ress,

    999).

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    250

    JAN

    PLAMPER

    Emotions

    re

    often idden

    n

    thetexts hathistorians se.

    To

    be

    sure,

    ome

    medieval ources re full f tears nd

    raptures-

    hese

    nclude he hronicleshat

    Johan

    uizinga

    rew

    pon

    when

    peaking

    f

    the

    xtravagant

    assions

    ftheLate

    MiddleAges.23 ut on thewhole,historical ources redry-unlessyoulook

    carefully

    ere,

    or

    xample,

    s

    howone

    tenth-century

    harter

    a

    legal

    document,

    ratherike a modern

    will)

    began:

    Dilectta

    xoremea nomen

    oddano,

    go

    . . .

    Euraldus,

    n

    pro

    hamore t

    bona volencia ua

    mihi

    ene

    servisti,

    ropterea

    ono

    tibi

    es

    ui

    sunt itas

    n

    pago

    Matisconense,

    n

    hagro

    Galuniacense,

    n

    villa

    Castel-

    lo;

    in

    primis

    ono tibi

    manso

    ndominicato,

    um omni

    uperposito

    el acienciis

    suis"

    "To

    my

    belovedwifeDoddana. ...

    Euraldus,

    utof ove and

    good

    will

    for

    you

    who]

    have

    ervedme

    well,

    or his

    eason

    ive

    o

    you

    properties

    hat re

    itu-

    ated

    n

    the

    agus

    of

    Mâcon,

    n

    the

    ger

    of

    Jalogny,

    n

    the

    villaofChâteau.

    n

    the

    firstlace giveyou large statewith llupon ndconnected o t.")Historians

    are trained

    o use a text ikethis

    o discuss he

    people

    nvolved

    n

    transactionss

    wellas the

    nature nd

    ocation fthe

    property.

    ut

    they

    re

    not

    ncouraged

    o

    see

    that he ext

    lso contains onsiderable

    vidence

    f

    feeling, voking,

    s it

    does,

    a

    "beloved"wife

    o whom s

    given gift

    outof

    ove and

    good

    will."

    These are

    normally

    onsidered

    ommonplaces

    f

    no

    consequence.

    ut

    one

    might

    wonder

    why

    nd how such

    things

    ecame

    commonplace."

    t

    might

    ehooveus

    to

    take

    such

    expressions

    f sentiment

    eriously.

    o

    be

    sure,

    beloved" nd

    "love" are

    littlewords. ut

    emotions reoften

    xpressed riefly.

    I

    love

    you"

    s

    a

    very

    hort

    statement.owever,tcan haveremarkablempact.

    In

    fact,

    myself

    id

    not ee the

    motionsn

    historical

    ocuments

    ntil was

    alerted o

    ook for hem.

    his

    happened

    when

    was asked

    to comment

    n three

    papers- by

    LesterK.

    Little,

    Richard

    arton,

    nd Paul

    Freedman-

    t a

    session

    organized

    y

    SharonFarmer t

    the

    American

    istorical

    ssociation

    AHA)

    in

    1995 on "The

    Social

    Constructionf

    Anger."

    he

    session

    nspired

    me

    to

    edit

    bookon the

    opic

    Anger's

    ast,

    with

    he hree HA

    papers

    onstituting

    ts

    ore),

    andthe

    ookmovedme

    tothinkmore

    eeply

    bout

    what

    istoriansad- and

    had

    not- said

    about he

    roles, ses,

    representations,

    nd

    transformations

    f emotions

    inhistory.24

    JP:

    n

    2002

    youpublished

    n articlen

    The

    American

    istorical

    eview,

    Wor-

    rying

    boutEmotions n

    History,"

    hat

    ecame n

    instantlassic.25n

    the rticle

    you

    take ssue with

    he inear

    process

    of emotional

    ontrol hat

    Norbert lias

    posited

    n

    his

    1939 The

    Civilizing

    rocess,

    nd which

    you

    traceback

    to Johan

    Huizinga's

    1919 The

    Waning f

    theMiddle

    Ages

    and

    ultimately

    o the

    medieval

    pathology

    f

    humors n the

    one hand nd

    to Darwin's

    oncept

    f

    energy

    n

    the

    other. n

    Huizinga,

    lias,

    and

    many

    thers

    from

    ebvre

    o

    medievalist eter

    Dinzelbacher),

    motions

    ehave ike

    fluids,

    eady

    o come

    nto he

    pen ny

    min-

    23. See Johan

    uizinga,

    erfsttij

    erMiddeleeuwen:

    tudie ver evens- n

    gedachtervormen

    er

    veertienden

    vijftiende

    euw n

    Frankrijk

    n de

    Nederlanden

    Haarlem:

    jeenk

    Willink,

    919),

    draw-

    ing argely

    n chroniclers

    or

    he

    Burgundian

    ourt,

    uch s

    Georges

    Chastellain.

    24.

    Anger's

    ast:

    The Social Uses

    of

    an Emotion n

    theMiddle

    Ages,

    d. BarbaraH.

    Rosenwein

    (Ithaca,

    NY:

    Cornell

    University

    ress,

    998).

    25. BarbaraH.

    Rosenwein,

    Worrying

    boutEmotions n

    History,"

    merican

    istoricalReview

    107,

    no. 3

    (2002),

    821-845.

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    THE

    HISTORY OF

    EMOTIONS

    25

    1

    ute-

    you

    call this he

    hydraulic

    odel" f emotions.

    an

    youexplicate

    he

    hy-

    draulicmodel or ur

    readers?

    BR: Robert olomon

    had

    already

    alled the

    unreasoning"

    iew of the mo-

    tions hydraulic."26he term erives rom view that eparates eeling rom a-

    tional

    hought,

    n idea that ccordswith he

    way

    n which

    motions

    re often

    subjectively

    elt

    for

    xample,

    I

    was overcome

    with

    rief).

    And,

    s this

    uote

    about

    grief uggests,

    he

    hydraulic

    iew

    corresponds

    o

    many

    f our folk heo-

    ries" about motions.

    eorge

    Lakoff

    nd

    ZoltánKövecses

    have solated

    many

    of the

    metaphors

    sed

    n

    English

    and

    presumably

    ther

    anguages

    s

    well)

    that

    imply

    hydrauliconception

    f motions.

    He was

    bursting

    ith

    nger"

    s a

    com-

    mon

    hrase, uggesting

    hat

    nger

    s ike

    gas

    under

    ressure,

    eady

    oburst ut.27

    "She

    was

    shaking

    with ear"

    uggests

    hat

    ear akes

    ver

    he

    body

    nd

    agitates

    it.28 hehydrauliciew of emotionswasgiven heoreticalallastbytheJames-

    Langetheory,

    nd

    t s behind heFreudian

    sychoanalyticoncept

    f

    affect.29

    But t

    s

    important

    o realize hat he

    hydraulicheory,

    owever

    well t accords

    with certain

    ind f common

    ense, s,

    as Martha

    Nussbaum

    uts

    t,

    grossly

    inadequate."30

    bove

    ll,

    tdoes not

    ake nto onsiderationhe

    act hat motions

    are about

    hingsudged

    mportant

    o

    us. Emotions verwhelm

    s

    only

    because

    something

    as been

    presented

    o

    us

    or

    happened

    o

    us thatmatterso our

    sense

    of

    well

    being:

    motions

    re theresult ur

    values and our

    assessments.

    his fact

    underlies

    he

    cognitive

    heory"

    f

    emotions,

    nd t

    helps

    us to

    understandow

    andwhy motionsre differentn differentocieties:nsofars bothvalues, nd

    also the

    objects/ideas

    o

    which hose

    values

    are

    attached, iffer,

    motions

    for

    example,

    what

    eopleget

    angry

    bout nd how

    they

    xpress

    heir

    eelings)

    will

    differ

    s well.

    JP:

    Much of

    your

    work n

    the

    history

    f

    emotions

    ince

    your

    1998

    collec-

    tion

    Anger's

    ast

    might

    e called

    an extended-

    ritical-

    dialogue

    with

    heElias

    paradigm,

    hich

    rgues

    hat motions

    were

    direct,

    mpulsive,

    nd

    explosive

    n

    the

    Middle

    Ages

    and

    became restrained"

    nly

    n the ixteenth

    entury,

    ith he

    creation f

    bsolute

    ourts nd

    the

    civilizing"

    f

    mpulses

    hat

    hey mposed.31

    n

    recent earsyouhave lsocritiquedttemptsovalidate lias s civilizing rocess

    26. Robert

    .

    Solomon,

    The Passions

    Garden

    City,

    NY: Anchor

    ress/Doubleday,

    976),

    139-

    150.

    27.

    See

    George

    akoff,

    Women, ire,

    nd

    Dangerous

    Things:

    What

    ategories

    eveal

    bout he

    Mind

    Chicago:University

    f

    Chicago

    Press,

    1987),

    Case

    Study

    .

    28. See

    Zoltán

    Kövecses,

    motion

    oncepts

    New

    York:

    Springer,

    990),

    hap.

    5.

    29. See

    William

    James,

    What s an Emotion?"

    Mind

    9,

    no. 34

    (1884),

    198:

    "Everyperception

    must

    ead to some

    nervous

    esult. f this e thenormal

    motional

    xpression,

    t

    soon

    expends

    tself,

    and

    n thenaturalourse

    f

    hings

    calm ucceeds. ut

    f he

    normal

    ssue

    be

    blocked

    rom

    ny

    ause,

    the urrents ayunder ertain ircumstancesnvade therracts,nd therework ifferentnd worse

    effects."

    ere motions

    re ike

    rivers;

    fdammed

    p,

    they ttempt

    o chart

    new

    course.

    Muchthe

    same

    s true f

    Freud,who,however,

    eems o

    prefer

    model f

    energy ischarge

    atherhan fflow.

    See

    Sigmund

    reud,

    The Unconscious"

    1915]

    n

    dem,

    ollected

    apers,

    ransí. oan

    Riviere

    New

    York:

    Basic

    Books,

    1959),

    V,

    111:

    "Affectsnd emotions

    orrespond

    ith

    rocesses

    f

    discharge,

    thefinal

    xpression

    f

    which s

    perceived

    s

    feeling."

    30.

    Martha .

    Nussbaum,

    pheavals

    f Thought:

    he

    ntelligencef

    Emotions

    Cambridge,

    K:

    Cambridge

    niversity

    ress,

    001),

    25.

    31 See

    Rosenwein,

    nger's

    ast,

    esp.

    237-240.

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    252

    JAN

    LAMPER

    with

    peculiar

    rand f

    evolutionarysychology.32

    t

    present ou

    are

    writing

    book

    that

    ttempts

    o

    replace

    Elias s

    paradigm

    ith new narrative.

    ould

    you

    go

    back and retrace he

    path

    o

    your

    urrent

    fforts

    o refuteheElias

    paradigm?

    How, notherwords, asyour hinkingvolved n this ssue, nd wherewould

    you

    ituate

    ourself

    t themoment?

    BR: I

    should

    rdinarily

    ot

    want o refute thesis

    hatwas

    produced

    n the

    1930s.

    Rather,

    would

    prefer

    o

    appreciate

    t for ts

    contribution

    t thetime f

    its

    writing. nfortunately,

    lias s

    theory

    nderliesmost tudies

    f

    the

    history

    f

    emotions one ven

    oday.

    or

    modernists,

    t

    presents

    convenientabula asa- a

    sort f historicalstate f nature"-fromwhich

    modernity,

    ith ll its

    complex-

    ity,

    an arise.

    Medievalists,

    n the ther

    and,

    aveeither

    ccepted

    lias's

    theory

    or have tried o

    push

    back the date of

    "civilizing"-

    from he sixteenth

    o,

    for

    example, he welfthentury,ndsometimesven arlier.

    In

    my

    first

    ttempts

    o

    critique

    lias I

    thought

    would succeed n

    breaking

    theholdof his

    theory

    y arguing

    1)

    that is

    "hydraulicheory"

    f emotions

    as

    incorrect,

    nd thereforeis

    whole

    dichotomy

    f

    mpulse

    s. restraint

    ackedva-

    lidity;

    nd

    2)

    that estraintnd subtle

    motions

    n

    general

    were haracteristic

    f

    Western

    ociety

    ong

    before he ixteenth

    entury.

    But

    discovered

    hat

    he ure f a

    grand

    arrative

    uch s Elias's

    could notbe

    vitiated

    imply y aying

    hattwas

    ncorrect.

    n

    my

    ookEmotional

    ommunities

    of

    he

    arly

    Middle

    Ages,

    thereforeried

    o substitutenew

    narrative

    aradigm-

    involvinghifts rom ne"emotionalommunity"o another-nplaceof Elias's

    bipartite

    medieval/modern;

    nrestrained/restrained)

    eriodization.

    utthe

    period

    covered

    n

    my

    bookwas

    so narrows to be

    convincingnly

    o

    a

    very

    ew.

    It

    thus eems o me that

    he

    nlyway

    to

    open

    the

    history

    f

    emotions o a new

    narratives

    to write ne that

    bridges

    he

    medieval/modernivide.This is

    my

    current

    roject.

    t is a

    hugeundertaking.

    ts

    very mmensity

    eads me

    to admire

    Elias's achievement-

    hough

    still

    adically isagree

    withhis

    assumptions

    nd

    conclusions- ather ore han did

    originally.

    JP:

    Yourbest-known

    onceptual

    ontribution

    o

    the

    history

    f

    emotionss

    the

    notion f "emotional ommunities."ou introducedheconceptnyour2002

    American

    istorical eview rticle nd

    fleshed

    t

    out

    considerably

    n

    your

    006

    book

    Emotional ommunitiesn the

    Early

    Middle

    Ages?3

    Can

    you

    recapitulate

    for

    ur

    readers

    what motional ommunities

    re?

    BR: I

    am still

    airly appy

    with

    he

    definition

    gave

    n

    theAmerican

    istori-

    cal Review:

    motional ommunitiesare

    precisely

    he ame as

    social communi-

    ties-families,

    neighborhoods,arliaments,uilds,

    monasteries,

    arish

    hurch

    memberships-

    ut the researcher

    ooking

    t them

    eeks above all

    to uncover

    systems

    f

    feeling:

    what hese

    ommunities

    and

    the

    ndividualswithin

    hem)

    definend assess as valuable r harmfulothem; he valuations hat heymake

    about thers'

    motions;

    henature

    f

    the

    ffectiveonds etween

    eople

    hat

    hey

    32. See BarbaraH.

    Rosenwein,

    The Uses of

    Biology:

    A

    Response

    o J. Carter

    Wood's

    'The

    Limits

    f Culture?'"

    ultural

    nd

    Social

    History

    ,

    no.

    4

    (2007),

    553-558.

    33. Cf.

    Rosenwein,

    motional

    ommunitiesn the

    Early

    Middle

    Ages,

    sp.

    20-29.

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    HISTORY OF EMOTIONS

    253

    recognize;

    nd themodesof emotional

    xpression

    hat

    hey xpect, ncourage,

    tolerate,

    nd

    deplore."34

    More

    recently

    havetried o

    pare

    his dea down o ts ssentials.

    hus,

    have

    summarizedhe dea as "socialgroupshat dhere othe amevaluations femo-

    tions

    nd how

    they

    hould e

    expressed,"

    nd,

    n another

    ontext,

    s

    "groups

    f

    people

    nimated

    y

    common r

    similar

    nterests,

    alues,

    nd

    emotional

    tyles

    nd

    valuations."

    JP:

    May

    I

    also ask

    you

    to

    recapitulate our

    method: ow do

    you go

    about

    practically,

    tep-by-step,

    dentifying

    motional ommunities?

    BR: The definition

    uggests

    hat

    ny

    social

    group

    with

    ommon

    nterestsnd

    goals

    should

    qualify

    s

    an

    emotional

    ommunity.

    ne would

    ogicallypick

    a

    group

    ndread

    verything

    hat tsmembers

    rote,

    arefully oting

    he motions.

    But what rethe motions? nd how should hey e evaluated? shallreturno

    these

    uestions.

    Meanwhile,

    e must dmit hat ot

    very roup

    hat xists r has existed

    s

    of

    interesto

    the

    historian

    nd that ome

    groups

    hat re

    of

    great

    nterest ave

    pro-

    ducedrather

    ittle n the

    way

    of

    primary

    ources,

    while

    ther

    roups

    re so

    large

    and/or

    rolific

    hat

    hey ose

    the

    opposite

    roblem.

    n Emotional

    ommunities

    in

    the

    Early

    Middle

    Ages,

    devoted ne

    chapter

    o the motional

    ommunity

    f

    Pope

    Gregory

    heGreat

    590-604),

    even

    though

    had

    only

    his own

    writings

    o

    work

    with.

    posited

    hat

    Gregory

    rote or

    particular

    udience,

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