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Page 1: Conference Impressions John Bahcall (jnb) NeSS02, 9/21/02

Conference ImpressionsConference Impressions

John Bahcall (http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jnb)

NeSS02, 9/21/02

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Thanks!

• Jordan• Tom• Kera• NSF colleagues• SOC• Speakers (especially from other countries)• Participants• Dr. Marburger

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• Your small proportional counters have an important national security application (Xe isotopes).

• Geo-biologists have found unique bacteria in extreme conditions in an active mine and could look for eukaryotes in a deep mine (and conceivably the origin of terrestrial life).

• Look how they are going to bore holes at the South Pole!

Highlights for Ray DavisHighlights for Ray Davis

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Highlights for Dick FeynmannHighlights for Dick Feynmann

• Ninety percent of what they said they were going to measure was bull. I just couldn’t figure out which 90%.

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Highlights for Dick FeynmannHighlights for Dick Feynmann

• The WIMP searches are going to be so precise that supersymmetry will be in trouble if they don’t find anything. What’s the answer if they don’t find any WIMPs?

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Feyman4

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Highlights for Dick FeynmannHighlights for Dick Feynmann

• They can make proton decay measurements at

1035 yrs. What will they see?

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Highlights for Hans BetheHighlights for Hans Bethe

• Nuclear fusion is established experimentally and solar neutrino oscillations are demonstrated. There could be p-p neutrinos for your 100th birthday!

• Sensitive experiments could see double-beta decay, proton decay, and WIMPs, but robust theories are lacking.

• Under ice and under water detectors are powerful and may see GRBs or microquasars, or more likely, surprises.

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Highlights for Willy FowlerHighlights for Willy Fowler

• With an underground laboratory, they can study stellar fusion reactions at stellar energies.

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1989

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Highlights for Willy FowlerHighlights for Willy Fowler

• The background from double beta-decay will be a problem in next generation neutrinoless double beta-decay experiments.

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Highlights for Willy FowlerHighlights for Willy Fowler

•The lab cross section for 3He ()7Be reaction is less well known than the expected 7Be solar flux.

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Why deep?Why deep?

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Eloquent arguments for ICECUBEEloquent arguments for ICECUBE

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GRBs?

by Eli Waxman

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Yogi BerraYogi Berra

“The most important sources you

will see are the sources you can’t see.”

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1964: Sole motivation1964: Sole motivation

PRL 12, 300, 1964

“… to see into the interior of a star and thus verify directly the hypothesis of nuclear energy generation in stars.”

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“From the point of view of detection probabilities , an ideal object is the Sun.”

1967: ‘Neutrino Experiments and the Problem of Leptonic Charge’

Bruno4.jpg

Sov Phys JETP 26, 984 (1968)

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Dear Dr. Marburger,

The NRC committee has reviewed

critically the scientific merit of

ICECUBE and an underground national

laboratory. We find that both are

essential for scientific progress, a

healthy economy, and a secure nation.

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Each facility will provide fundamental

advances in many different branches of

science. The discovery potential of the

National Lab and ICECUBE is 100%,

and will be guaranteed by the salary

of Professor Francis Halzen.

Sincerely,

Professor B. Boorish

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My impressionsMy impressions

• Fantastically exciting. Wonderfully stimulating. I don’t know what to work on first.

• The biology and geology presentations changed the way I think about the underground laboratory.

• The synergisms are mind boggling. • Underground science should be a major

program at NSF and DOE.

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Personal remarks to whomever cares to listen

Personal remarks to whomever cares to listen

• This is fun!

• This is exciting!

• This is important!

• This has Great outreach appeal!

• But, this is serious …