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CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN
CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 17, 2021
6:30 PM
Notice is hereby given that the South Jordan City Council will hold a City Council Meeting on
Tuesday, August 17, 2021, in the City Council Chambers, located at 1600 W. Towne Center Drive,
South Jordan, Utah with an electronic option via Zoom phone and video conferencing. Persons
with disabilities who may need assistance should contact the City Manager staff at least 24 hours
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Regular Meeting Agenda:
6:30 p.m. A. Welcome, Roll Call, and Introduction: By Mayor, Dawn R. Ramsey
B. Invocation: By Chief Financial Officer, Sunil Naidu
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C. Pledge of Allegiance: By City Manager, Gary L. Whatcott
D. Minute Approval
D.1. August 3, 2021 City Council Study Meeting
D.2. August 3, 2021 City Council Meeting
6:35 p.m. E. Mayor and Council Reports
6:50 p.m. F. Public Comment: This is the time and place for any person who wishes to
comment on items not scheduled on the agenda for public hearing. Any person or
group wishing to comment on any item not otherwise scheduled for public
hearing on the agenda may address the City Council at this point by stepping to
the microphone or if joining electronically by raising their hand and giving his or
her name for the record. Note, photos or documents will not be accepted through
Zoom, therefore if you plan to present photos or documents you must attend City
Council in-person. Comments should be limited to not more than three (3)
minutes, unless additional time is authorized by the Chair. Groups wishing to
comment will be asked to appoint a spokesperson. Items brought forward to the
attention of the City Council will be turned over to staff to provide a response
outside of the City Council meeting. Time taken on non-agenda items, interrupts
the process of the noticed agenda. In rare cases where it is determined
appropriate to address items raised from public comments, these items will be
noted and may be brought back at the conclusion of the printed agenda.
7:00 p.m. G. Public Hearing Items:
G.1. Ordinance 2021-15, Amending Section 13.12.145 of the South Jordan Municipal Code regulating Illicit Storm Water Discharges. RCV (By Director of
Public Works, Jason Rasmussen)
G.2. Ordinance 2021-16, Amending Section 17.130.030 of the South Jordan Municipal Code regulating the Accessory Dwelling Unit Floating Zone. RCV (By Long Range Planning Analyst, Meadow Wedekind and Director of Planning,
Steven Schaefermeyer)
8:00 p.m. H. Staff Reports and Calendaring Items
ADJOURNMENT
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office of the public body and also posted on the Utah State Public Notice Website
http://www.utah.gov/pmn/index.html and on South Jordan City’s website at www.sjc.utah.gov.
Published and posted August 13, 2021.
August 17, 2021 City Council Meeting Agenda Executive Summary Page 1 of 1
CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY August 17, 2021
This Executive Summary includes only certain issues on the City Council Meeting Agenda which require a vote, and for which the City Council is not familiar. The City Council Meeting Agenda includes all issues to be addressed by the City Council. Agenda Items: G.1. Ordinance 2021-15, amending Section 13.12.145 of the South Jordan Municipal Code regulating Illicit Storm Water Discharges. (Jason Rasmussen, Director of Public Works, pg. 35). The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and State of Utah Dept. of Environmental Quality (DEQ) enacted certain laws pertaining to municipal storm water systems (MS4’s). The DEQ performed an inspection and audit of the City’s MS4, and found certain action items that need attention, including the illicit discharge prohibitions within Title 13 of the City code. The proposed amendments to City Code § 13.12.145 will bring it into conformity with the EPA and DEQ requirements identified in the inspection. Recommendation: Approve Ordinance 2021-15, amending Section 13.12.145 of the South Jordan Municipal Code regulating Illicit Storm Water Discharges. G.2. Ordinance 2021-16, amending Section 17.130.030 of the South Jordan Municipal Code regulating the Accessory Dwelling Unit Floating Zone. (Meadow Wedekind, Long Range Planning Analyst, and Steven Schaefermeyer, Director of Planning, pg. 43). Recently passed House Bill 82 (“Single-family Housing Modifications”), which takes effect on October 1, 2021, prohibits municipalities from establishing restrictions or requirements for certain accessory dwelling units (ADUs) with limited exceptions. The proposed amendments to City Code § 17.130.030 will update certain terms used for internal ADUs, and will also eliminate and add a number of the City’s requirements pertaining to internal ADUs, which will bring City Code into compliance with Utah State Code. Recommendation: Approve Ordinance 2021-16, amending Section 17.130.030 of the South Jordan Municipal Code regulating the Accessory Dwelling Unit Floating Zone.
D.1. CITY COUNCIL STUDY MEETING MINUTES
SOUTH JORDAN CITY
CITY COUNCIL STUDY MEETING
August 3, 2021
Present: Mayor Dawn R. Ramsey, Council Member Patrick Harris, Council Member Brad
Marlor, Council Member Don Shelton, Council Member Tamara Zander, Council
Member Jason McGuire, CM Gary Whatcott, ACM Dustin Lewis, Assistant City
Attorney Ed Montgomery, Planning Director Steven Schaefermeyer, CFO Sunil
Naidu, Communications Manager Rachael Van Cleave, Transportation Engineer
Jeremy Nielson, City Engineer Brad Klavano, Police Chief Jeff Carr, Fire Chief Chris
Dawson, Director of Government Affairs Melinda Seager, City Recorder Anna
Crookston, Strategic Services Director Don Tingey, Director of Administrative
Services Spencer Kyle, Director of Public Works Jason Rasmussen, City Commerce
Director Brian Preece, IT Director Jon Day, GIS Coordinator Matt Jarman, Meeting
Transcriptionist Diana Baun
Others: Shelby Richardson, Jake Ackerman, Andrea Moser, Jay, Kristi, Carol Brown,
Grant Farnsworth, Kim Clark, Tyler Allen, Seishi Yamagata
4:51 PM
STUDY MEETING
A. Welcome, Roll Call and Introduction: By Mayor Dawn R. Ramsey
Mayor Ramsey welcomed everyone present and introduced the meeting.
B. Invocation: By Council Member Brad Marlor
Council Member Brad Marlor offered the invocation.
C. Mayor and Council Coordination
Mayor Dawn Ramsey said the city sent a letter to Senator Romney, asking for and encouraging his
support on the Infrastructure Act. It is a bipartisan infrastructure bill that will really deliver for water
in the state of Utah and something we have the opportunity to potentially benefit from, including our
significant water infrastructure projects we’re working on and the re-use project. That was sent last
week to him and his staff, she heard back from his State Director and she is happy to forward that email
to anyone who is interested. The email spells out what is in the bill, part of it authorizes $3 billion for
Utah’s roads and highways and also talks about key legislative priorities that Senator Romney has been
championing. It also explains $219 million to Utah for water revolving funds and other investments
such as broadband opportunities in the airport. We asked for his support on specific things that we are
working on, such as our re-use project. Last week at the Sewer District Board Meeting the board voted
unanimously to allow the partnership of putting the re-use project on the property there.
Council Member Tamara Zander asked if we also sent the letter to Senator Lee’s office.
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Mayor Ramsey said she doesn’t believe so as Senator Romney has been leading the charge on this.
Council Member Don Shelton thought it would be good to send the letter to Senator Lee.
Council Member Zander agreed that it should be sent to Senator Lee as well.
Mayor Ramsey said she read a recent headline that Senator Romney is championing this, but Senator
Lee is trying to poke holes in it and is against it. She said she will have the letter sent to Senator Lee
and select members of his staff. They are picking up the pace with the Economic Opportunity
Commission and the local government role that they have to play in trying to help create and draft
legislation for this next session, along with working to protect the rights of local government in that
legislation. There is a LPC meeting on August 16, and there is a League Board Meeting that day as
well. Having South Jordan have the local government seat there allows us to really weigh in and
represent how we feel, along with local government.
Council Member Brad Marlor asked for feedback from the meeting with Police Chief Jeff Carr.
Mayor Ramsey said she was planning on asking for that feedback in the next meeting.
Mayor Ramsey asked Chief Carr to give some feedback during Staff Reports in the City Council
Meeting. She has been receiving updates from other cities since the meeting and will be sharing that
updated information as well. The Governor had a press conference on the drought and water
conservation at the Water Conservation Gardens. She had the chance to be there and stand up with
him, and Jordan Valley Water Conservancy District Assistant General Manager Bart Forsythe named
South Jordan specifically as one of four cities who have adopted the new Water Wise ordinances. The
governor acknowledged publicly that this is going to save a great deal of water. She also heard from
President of the Board of Education for Jordan School District Tracy Miller letting her know Bingham
High School’s remodel project has been delayed with students having to start the year virtually. They
need a few more weeks to get the building done, they are shooting for an in person date of August 30.
Regarding masks and mandates at school, the governor made clear in his press conference today that
he doesn’t have the authority to make a mask mandate as the legislature took that authority from the
governor. The only people who can mandate masks are the legislature and she doesn’t believe that is
their intention; Principals, school districts, etc. cannot issue mandates for the schools. Local health
departments can issue mandates for their county, but they have to have the approval of the elected body
of that county.
Council Member Zander asked to clarify that the county can’t issue a mandate unless the council
agrees.
Mayor Ramsey said the county health department can make a recommendation, but the elected body
has to vote yes; that is different than it was last school year. She wanted to share that information with
the council as they might get some calls. They did say that local businesses have the right to require
masks and employers have the right to require vaccinations or masks.
Council Member Don Shelton said the Western Growth Coalition meeting is on the 16 as well for West
Jordan City, with a presentation on air quality.
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Mayor Ramsey will not be making it to that meeting and thanked Council Member Shelton for
attending.
D. Discussion/Review of Regular Council Meeting
Mayor Ramsey let everyone know the amended agenda is before them currently and was amended
legally and publically when an item was pulled from the agenda yesterday.
Council Member Shelton asked how much we were paying for the rental of space for the water
treatment project.
City Manager Gary Whatcott said we aren’t paying for it, they are letting us use it and we have to
restore it at the end. It was structured under a lease agreement, but there is no cost. We have to make
some modifications to the building to make it work for us, and when we leave in five years we will
have to make it back to where they can utilize it again; there will be some costs on our part, but far
less than the expense of building a building which was the original plan. We are at this point because
we couldn’t get past Riverton City planning and zoning issues that were associated with that
property. To make things easier the city went back and worked with the district staff who were
awesome and found a different solution that in the end saved us millions of dollars. It is not a long-
term solution, but it fits the pilot project need which is about five years and allows the project to
operate in a clean environment. The only modifications really are rerouting some water into the
building from the output of the treatment plant. The water district is still working on some processes
internally, and in the end he believes they are going to permit the project as a sign of their support.
Tasting will be held off for a while until there has been more data collection in a couple of years,
then they will go back and permit for tasting and sampling of the water for those who visit the site. In
the meantime they will work on ramping up the education process and getting people out to the site,
including more scientists and a university that might engage us in the science along with collecting
the data and doing some analytics for us. It has taken a lot longer than anticipated, but with all these
regulatory bodies looking at us it is a little slower. It is important to have the state behind us in this
because it is so new.
Mayor Ramsey said they have full confidence that in the end this is going to benefit the residents of
the city, and over the course of time become the model for the state. Everyone here will have the
chance to come see it, walk through it and learn how it works.
Manager Whatcott believes this will be the influence for the state actually creating a new water re-
use program and regulations supporting it, including drinking water. This is a good foundational
project with a long way to go in catching up to our neighboring states, but at least we are starting
here.
Director of Public Works Jason Rasmussen said they have the terms figured out, and thinks it is great
they are letting us use this facility.
Mayor Ramsey said at the meeting on Tuesday they were able to get unanimous support from the
Consumer District to sign on to this.
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E. Discussion Items:
E.1. Residential Development, approximately located at 1472 West 11400 South,
applicants Jake and Amanda Ackerman. (By Director of Planning, Steven
Schaefermeyer)
Director of Planning Steven Schaefermeyer said Jake Ackerman and his team have been working
with staff to refine their project. This location is just west of Ivory’s Bingham Court project.
Initially they had hoped for these properties to be included with Bingham Court, however that
didn’t happen. Staff has instructed them to look at Bingham Court as a model for what they are
doing. The initial concepts didn’t meet that so they went back and have been working with City
Planner Damir Drozdek and the engineering group. This is a PD Development Floating Zone
project and in order for this to happen we have to change the master plan from commercial to
residential on part of the property. With the Ridgeview Project across the street there is a new
light coming to that intersection and it will be a full turn intersection on 11400 South. Ideally,
they like to utilize those types of intersections for commercial, though like the Bingham Court
property this one has some challenges in terms of depth, size and shape to accommodate a
variety of commercial uses. Staff encouraged them to look into those uses and shared that we
understand some of those challenges, much like what happened with Bingham Court. We also
are well aware of the residential market and how hot it is, how many people want to build this
type of product in our city. We have many things in the pipeline and he continues to stress to
anyone he talks to, including this developer, that the council has set the mark at six to eight units
per acre. Any time they go above that it becomes the new high watermark, the thing that future or
current projects will be evaluated against. He is not saying the design couldn’t accommodate
greater density in a way that is beneficial to the city, but he wants to make the council aware that
density has always been part of the conversation. Any time they make a decision that becomes
the new high watermark and that mark is currently Bingham Court which was up to eight units
per acre; however, they ended up coming in at just under seven units per acre. At the time, the
conversation was that the eight units per acre was warranted because of the special nature of the
affordable housing that was being built. Most other projects have been around seven units per
acre, including Ridgeview across the street.
Council Member Patrick Harris asked to clarify that eight units per acre was discussed because
affordable housing was tied to it, but everything else has been seven units per acre or under.
Director Schaefermeyer said this is challenging as staff because they do want to focus on design,
they want that to be the bulk of the conversation. However, this current presenter has worked
well with staff to redesign their concept based on what has been shown in the past to be more
palatable to this council. He wants the council to understand that whatever direction they give
tonight influences other discussions they are currently having around the city; there are a lot of
groups right now trying to push the boundaries of units per acre in the city and this decision
would impact those discussions if it changes the current watermarks.
Jake Ackerman (Applicant) reviewed his Power Point Presentation (Attachment A) and
introduced himself. He graduated from Bingham High School and has lived here his whole life.
He lives not far from Lifetime Fitness, over in the Parkway Palisades subdivision with his wife
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of 21 years and six children. He loves South Jordan and his full time job is running a roofing
company from Logan to Payson.
Council Member Harris asked if Mr. Ackerman currently owned this land.
Mr. Ackerman said he owns two of the four parcels of land, he is in the process of working on
the other parcels. As background, in 2004 before 11400 South went through he was 23 years old
and the market was hot. He bought these two little houses in South Jordan on 11400 South and
when the street finally went through he thought he’d get rich selling them. It took way longer to
get 11400 South through, the housing market tanked and eventually he got to a place where he
realized, as none of that area was developed, that he needed to wait because his two little houses
were too small to dictate the outcome of what was going to happen. He realized that if the area
around the property went commercial then they would have to go commercial. As the road went
through Ivory came in and developed townhomes and single family homes, an LDS church was
built next to the properties, a gas station and bike shop, as well as a bunch of new residential
projects. The canal also goes through this project, so in the red square on slide two there are
actually four parcels which consist of two houses on either side of the canal. After Ivory came in
and built, he noticed some things; like the fact that the home next to Hawthorn Academy is like
an island. His two properties, together with the adjacent two properties that he is planning on
acquiring, created the proposal to combine all four units and incorporate the canal with a new
four way traffic signal. Right now there are issues with more affordable housing and traffic
congestion on 11400 South. With a residential development you would have people turning right,
crossing two lanes to turn left, people traveling on 11400 South trying to turn into the
subdivision; without this project, there is already a three-way stop going in from the new
development on the south side of 11400 South where they are adding a Starbucks and
townhomes. He wants continuity, this is why they are proposing townhomes that look very
similar to the Ivory development; townhomes that flow and connect with the Bingham Court
subdivision from the end of where the Ivory townhomes are now, all the way to the church. This
would eliminate some of the clutter and give that feeling of continuity. He is also proposing a
small park. Another unique part of the project is that currently there are six entrances, including
the entrance to the canal; the new traffic light will line up with the canal. When they originally
looked at this they were hoping for higher density and originally proposed a plan that would cost
them significantly less, and would have two entrances. From those two entrances they would
have traffic coming in turning right and left, people going out turning right or crossing traffic to
turn left, and then there would be a third entrance for the canal road. This original proposal had
16 units per acre, however they got the message about density and they have been trying to figure
out how to accommodate the city. As a development group they wondered if they could
incorporate one entrance in connection with the canal district that was aligned with the four way
stop UDOT was installing so there is a mid-block traffic signal for all the residents to go in and
out with a single four-way stop. They spoke with the canal district and they were able to see a
scenario and get verbal support from them where they did all this by incorporating part of the
canal into their project. They have been working with the city to try and accommodate both a
good design and a density that makes sense. Something of note in regards to the proposed culvert
covering around 120 feet of canal is that it will be very expensive, but they believe the culvert
has the city and developer’s best interests in mind to eliminate the current six entrances and make
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access at one four way stop on 11400 South. They believe this increases pedestrian safety,
reduces load, and increases traffic safety; however, it does come at a considerable expense for
the developer. As a developer, it would be much more affordable for them to have two entrances
and not have to deal with the canal or the acquisition of land, along with not having to build the
culvert over the canal to incorporate a four way stop. There is nothing worse than trying to move
up and down 11400 South and when Hawthorn Academy first opened it was very difficult with
all the congestion and more residents moving down that road. For the benefit of the community,
he feels like having a four way stop at that spot is an overall benefit. He discussed Concept Plan
#2. This area really only has two single family homes neighboring the proposed development,
and if you count the one in the back across the canal it really only has three homes that are
immediately adjacent to the property. They have spoken to all those homes that are immediately
adjacent to the proposed development and they are in support of Concept Plan #3 and later. Their
project would look like it was connected to the Ivory Homes project in terms of continuity and
looks. Newer plans with the culvert include a tot lot and pickle ball court as a buffer between the
existing homes and the new development. To match the Ivory Homes project they revised their
plans and Concept Plan #4 has some single family homes with a buffer between themselves and
the existing residences. The other thing that they have discussed a lot with staff is parking and
the concerns related to multi-family situations. The minimum requirement for this plan is 64
stalls, they are at 78 plus 25 guest stalls; they have exceeded the minimum requirement by quite
a bit. In terms of units per acre, this project is unique in that if you limit the acreage counted to
only the property you get a higher number; they feel that the city should take into account the
fact that they are buying a part of the canal and adding a culvert along with landscaping what is
now a canal road, even though it doesn’t count towards their square footage. Some of the canal
square footage that doesn’t show up on the project is actually square footage that should be
counted towards density calculations. They would like the entire project to be considered,
including the canal space, as this would lower the density and be more reflective of the Ivory
density. It is costing more to incorporate the canal, and they feel that by incorporating the canal
there is a benefit to the community, to traffic and pedestrian safety, and to continuity. If they
develop just his two pieces of property by themselves that means the other property owners don’t
have enough acreage to get a commercial development. By incorporating the entire project it
enables all four of the properties together to be an assemblage and they request that the project be
seen as a whole development. By looking at this big picture they are hoping that the city will see
that the density might just be lower than shown. Per the city’s feedback they have tried to add as
much parking as possible, more than the minimum required, as a benefit to the residents of the
project. The parking, along with the development of the canal, puts considerable financial burden
on the developer for improvements they are planning as part of the subdivision. Their hope is
that with these additional improvements, they can justify this project. Concept Plan #5 is their
current proposal. They have continued to reduce the density and they are not getting credit for
the additional canal acreage. He wonders if there is a mechanism by which they can legally
incorporate that square footage to allow the project to reflect what they feel is the true density.
Currently the density is being reflected as 11.9 units per acre, however if you look at an overlay
of the Ivory subdivision next to this it is very reflective of a similar density; they also feel that
they have more parking and amenities. They have talked with the neighboring properties
throughout the process and they have seen the amount of units come down as well with the
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buffers; there are not a lot of neighbors surrounding this project as it is an in-fill project. He
showed the elevations for the units from the presentation, he said they are similar to the Ivory
Homes development.
Council Member Zander asked about the square footage in the homes.
Mr. Ackerman responded that with the basement he believes the single family homes are around
2,400-2,700 square feet and the townhomes are around 2,000 square feet. All units have 2 car
garages. He believes that as a developer, there will be considerable expense incurred and they are
having to weigh the benefits of developing a 125 foot long culvert over the canal versus just
having two entrances on 11400 South and going back to the drawing board. He feels that after
talking with staff the best project is the one that has a single entrance at the light and has the
culvert over the canal. If they are spending the money to incorporate the canal he feels their
project should get credit for the square footage associated with the canal, which when
incorporated would bring the density of the project down. If they don’t spend the money on the
canal to accommodate less density, less density means less availability. They are open to
feedback and he is passionate about the project either way; he thinks it can be a great project.
Council Member Zander said he is on the right track with covering the canal, she would not be in
favor of having multiple entrances because we don’t want to make 11400 South worse. In her
opinion the density is still too high, but he is making progress in the right direction. She likes the
added green space and she understands his message, that he wants credit for the open space of
the canal. Unfortunately, they do not get that credit but she understands them lobbying for that.
She asked if they believe six single family homes at the back of a townhome project are going to
sell well.
Mr. Ackerman responded that in the Ivory subdivision he believes they have around 50 units and
they have 12 single family homes. He thinks this is what people are seeing everywhere and what
they are expecting.
Council Member Zander asked which way the homes are facing and where the garages are.
Mr. Ackerman responded that the single family homes are “rear load” with three facing the park.
Director Schaefermeyer clarified the Ivory project has 18 single family homes; they have three
streets lined with six homes each.
Mr. Ackerman said he believes his lots are more analogous to the Ivory homes in terms of
placement and lot sizes.
Council Member Zander asked if the culvert covering will line up with the planned street light.
City Engineer Brad Klavano said this was brought up after the first iteration, asking them to line
that up as they are ready to bid the signal but he is waiting to see if this project goes anywhere
before doing so. They have had many discussions with UDOT regarding the current situation
with all the driveways along the main road. From a traffic standpoint, lining this up with the light
and making it a four way signal instead of a “T” intersection makes the most sense.
Mr. Ackerman said things will not line up without the culvert.
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Council Member Zander said they came up with the right solution, it just needs a little tweaking.
Mr. Ackerman said this was not coordinated, they did not know UDOT was talking to the city
about a three way stop.
Council Member Zander said that without the culvert this is a mess, she just thinks he needs to
lower his density and get a few more single family homes; get some more space in there because
it feels congested to her. If she were to move into that community she likes the fact they have the
park, but if she is living on the west side of the canal she has to go all the way down and around
to get to the park. She is not sure how to overcome that as they can’t do a bridge because it’s not
their property.
Mr. Ackerman said walking to the park would be the equivalent of walking from City Hall to
Café Rio, it is only a few hundred feet. However, without the culvert they would have to go all
the way to 11400 South.
Council Member Zander asked if he has secured the land on the west side that isn’t his.
Mr. Ackerman said it is pending an approval of the project but it’s all set up from a legal
perspective.
Director Schaefermeyer added that one of the single family home plans from Ivory Homes shows
square footage of 2,957 square feet, that doesn’t include the garage. There are some two stories
and some ramblers; the council required ramblers along the property line. All the Ivory Homes
had two car garages. The home referenced above was a rambler; if it were a two story it would be
a bit larger.
Council Member McGuire agreed with Council Member Zander, in that the density is a little too
high and feels cluttered. Adding some more single family homes might help reduce that feeling
of clutter, it just seems like they are tucking those homes in the back with all the high density
around it; it just doesn’t feel right to him.
Mr. Ackerman referenced Concept Plan #5 and said the idea is that they have single family
homes in this spot to give a buffer to the existing neighbors. They said a few options are adding a
few single family homes in the northwest position and have them driving through more to get to
their homes, or putting single family homes on the main road; he asked for the council’s input.
Council Member McGuire said it just feels off to him looking at the concept.
Council Member Zander said they have placed the density where it makes sense, it’s just too
dense. They’ve tucked the single family homes near the park and other single family homes, and
it was done to help reduce the density, but she still feels it’s too dense. They need to go back to
the drawing board and open it up a little bit.
Mr. Ackerman asked how they can illustrate that the project incorporates a lot more square
footage. They can certainly look at density across the board, however the expense of the culvert
and a portion of the traffic signal is being born by them.
Council Member Zander asked what the cost is for the culvert over the canal.
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Mr. Ackerman said it’s about half a million dollars as they are essentially building a concrete
bunker over the canal that people have to be able to drive over. Also, the canal company is
insistent they have to buy a portion of their land, but the portion they have to buy and the culvert
isn’t currently included in the density calculations. He believes the density would show much
lower, closer to eight, if they incorporated that portion of the canal.
Director Schaefermeyer said that the plan shows the added amount is 3.17 acres. The total
density of the units without the additional space is 12.3 units per acre; if you include the front
canal area the density is 11.8 units per acre. The total acreage of all the canal space is 3.46,
which when added brings the density down to 11.2 units per acre. He doesn’t know how much of
that stretch of canal the engineer included, but that is the current acreage they have.
Council Member Zander said that it appears even after including all of the canal space the
density is still higher than what they as a city are aiming for.
Council Member Shelton agreed.
Council Member Marlor said the issue is that if they allow one development to go to that density
level, the next city council meeting will have four more of the same thing and they have to allow
them all. Maybe it’s just this council, but his concern is that there is a compounding effect every
time they make the decision to go higher density. He doesn’t mind a few townhomes, from an
affordability standpoint there is a lot of logic there, but South Jordan has a certain standard that is
expected and that’s what is being reflected right now. He thinks Mr. Ackerman is doing a great
job trying to piece this together, and these are really tough places to put commercial
development; he can’t imagine how they would allow something there that would make more
sense. Even if it’s a doctor or dentist’s office people will still be coming in and out of there and
the canal will still need to be covered. From a traffic standpoint this really works very well and
he believes the concept is there, he is just not sure he can be comfortable with that level of
density.
Mr. Ackerman asked to confirm that they like the idea of the project, it’s just too dense.
Council Member Zander said this is her district and when they did the project with Ivory, Ivory
was asking for up to eight units per acre; that was a huge stretch for the council and she
remembers several council members saying she was the one that was going to hear about this
since it’s her district. She was ready to defend it because it made sense to her and the council.
When they first got on the council six years ago, five to six units per acre was a stretch. They are
moving towards more density, but they need to hold their projects accountable. She thinks he is
headed the right direction, she loves the idea of covering the canal and doing something that
makes sense and blends with the neighboring projects, but it is just too full. They know he has to
make money, but this isn’t something she can vote yes too.
Mr. Ackerman wants this to be a great project and it will be better for everyone if they can get to
a place where everyone feels comfortable.
Shelby Richardson (Applicant) said the square footage for the single family homes in this
development is 3,900 square feet without the garage.
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Council Member Marlor asked if we can work on the applicant’s portion of the traffic light and
mitigate that expense.
Engineer Klavano said they can look at impact fee credits or something similar, he suggested the
applicant speak with City Manager Gary Whatcott about possibilities.
Mayor Ramsey said it sounds like the council wants to have Mr. Ackerman continue working
with staff to find a way to help him meet their requirements. There are a lot of conversations
about the need for housing and we acknowledge that. That being said, there are a lot of areas in
South Jordan that are very dense; they are in Daybreak and they have their own master
development agreement, that is part of the reason why a maximum of eight in the rest of the city
is the threshold that has been determined because there are already areas with much greater
density. That gives us a breadth and a mix in terms of types of housing. She thinks he has done a
good job with this and suggested he continue to work with staff.
Mr. Ackerman said if they are going to spend time and money going back and re-doing this he
thinks, with the expense of the culvert and the additional square footage, consideration for
possibly 8.1 or something near 8 units per acre should be allowed since the acreage calculations
with the culvert aren’t entirely accurate. He has to explain this to the investors and he needs to
explain why this is worth continuing to work on, rather than just developing the area with two
entrances and scrapping the culvert.
Mayor Ramsey said she doesn’t believe they have the authority to make that decision, it will be
the final process that determines the acreage that matters as well as the number on the plat.
Director Schaefermeyer said he could add to the final conversation that if their property had a
higher density the reason is because the canal was considered part of it, but what’s on the plat is
final.
Mayor Ramsey said if they approve the higher than normal density they are then forced to
explain that number to everyone who comes in for the rest of the lifetime of the city.
Director Schaefermeyer said if they are not open to culverting the canal that needs to be clear at
this point as well.
Council Member Zander said she does not want multiple entrances, if there is no culvert she will
not approve. We need to fix traffic problems, not create traffic problems.
Council Member Marlor said he might be willing to budge a little bit on the density if there were
some sort of affordability added to the mix like Ivory Homes had.
Mr. Ackerman said the challenge there is they are spending more and more money, one way or
the other, to put the culvert in, the park, now they want it affordable; that’s where the cost of
delivering the project isn’t worth it. He has met with capital groups who say the culvert makes it
not interesting at a half a million dollars, they consider the culvert route “fancy” and they just
want a square piece of land they can put as many units on as possible. They already have more
parking than Ivory has, but they are being told that it doesn’t matter what Ivory did, they still had
to put more parking in because they are having issues.
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Council Member Marlor says it will be a struggle to get above eight units per acre approved. For
him, if they added maybe two affordable townhomes, a density of nine might start feeling better.
They like the ability to bring some of the city staff and teachers, that helps the city as a whole
and then they are able to move more developers further in that direction.
Council Member Shelton asked if they have looked at the Redevelopment Agency (RDA) funds
on this at all, as that’s how Ivory put in affordable housing.
Manager Whatcott said Ivory still never went over a density of eight.
Council Member Zander said Ivory also didn’t have the culvert access problem. The key to her is
access, along with keeping it clean.
Council Member Shelton said he was open to looking at the RDA to help with this.
Mr. Ackerman asked what RDA funds were.
Manager Whatcott said it’s a Redevelopment Agency, they have some housing money that can
buy down some of the units for affordability.
Mayor Ramsey said they used RDA funds to help fund affordability with Ivory Homes and that’s
how Ivory didn’t lose any money off the bottom line.
Mr. Ackerman asked who he would get with to discuss this.
City Commerce Director Brian Preece said the council has to approve it, then they buy down
from the market price to where someone who makes 80% of the median area income can afford
based on HUD standards; it costs about $100,000 a unit. For Ivory Homes this was only done for
the townhomes, not the single family homes.
Mr. Ackerman said all he knew about affordability was that they couldn’t sell their units for the
market value.
Director Schaefermeyer said one issue they run into on these types of projects is not getting
initial direction. The developers hadn’t explored the cost of covering the canal or the cost of
maybe buying down some of the units; with this new direction they can look into these things.
The council all agreed that they are in favor of looking into using RDA funds to buy down the
cost of affordable units and keeping it one entrance.
Council Member Zander emphasized that she wants them to be super detailed about the
accessibility and making sure the traffic light would work for both sides.
Mayor Ramsey said she knows this opens up more work, but it also opens up more possibilities
to try to bring this together as well as providing a need that we have in South Jordan that will
benefit everyone involved.
E.2. UDOT 11400 South needs analysis. (By UDOT Region Two Planning Manager,
Grant Farnsworth)
Grant Farnsworth reviewed his presentation (Attachments B and C).
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Council Member Shelton asked them to define multimodal options.
Mr. Farnsworth said that usually refers to walking, bicycling and using transit.
Council Member Zander asked about the current potential light situation on 11400 South with
the development being proposed previously in this meeting. She said he mentioned how 4000
West was a fail, she wants to know if they believe this potential light would be a fail as well.
Mr. Farnsworth said they haven’t really looked at it. He said, based on watching the presentation,
if it hadn’t have been in a corridor agreement it would have made him nervous; however, it
sounds like it was already in a corridor agreement and the right people have already been
involved. For the amount of delay they are trying to solve, that is not a major source of delay,
there are a lot bigger things they are going to have to solve than an additional intersection.
Engineer Klavano said this is a much longer distance, about a quarter of a mile.
Mayor Ramsey said she believes these are the right goals. There is a lot to be done, but they are
working with the Miller Group and they are really talking about existing and planned land use. If
they are able to work out a way to bring more jobs to the west side of the city that is going to
make a difference. That west side in 2050 being a 67 minute drive can be mitigated by creating
spaces where people can live, work and play right on the transit corridors and providing more
jobs where people can work closely. She had lunch with UDOT last week and met with WFRC
yesterday, she is happy we have the opportunities to bring the parties together and talk about
transit and future land use; that is something that everyone here is working on and they are
working to that end for the same reason because those are things we have the opportunity to
shape because they are within our control.
Council Member Marlor said he thinks there was still quite a bit of Covid disruption when they
did the study in January.
Mr. Farnsworth said Transportation Engineer Jeremy Nielson did a traffic count back in January
2020, prior to Covid, so they used those numbers. They knew the numbers were still low and that
was one thing he pushed the analysts to do was make sure they increased the number of vehicles.
They have some counters at signals that are always collecting, so they were able to look back at
those and see what the numbers were pre-Covid.
UDOT Transportation Engineer Seishi Yamagata said in the traffic world the pandemic caused a
lot of disruption and traffic pattern changes. Every traffic count they’ve taken during the
pandemic they’ve been very careful with and they did the same for this project. They used the
city’s pre-pandemic data to compare adjustments, along with UDOT’s counters at the signals;
they were able to look at multiple months pre-pandemic and make some adjustments. They have
some outlines with what specific adjustments they’ve made. Like Mr. Farnsworth mentioned,
they’ve made adjustments of up to 300-400 vehicles on the corridor because of the different data
sources.
Mayor Ramsey said, regarding travel times, she believes north and south are going to be key. She
said as a city they feel strongly about getting Mountain View Corridor extended. She lives near
Mountain View Corridor and having the newest part to the north open saves her 10-15 minutes
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on a trip from her house to the Capitol; she can’t believe the difference not having to drive all the
way out to I-15 from the west side of the city, it saves a great deal of time to be able to jump on
Mountain View Corridor and take it over to I-15. The people who live on the west side of the
city are not going to have to travel east and west as much if the north and south parts of
Mountain View are extended. She doesn’t know if there is an opportunity to move it up, but it is
such a priority for the communities that have touch points there on the west.
Mr. Farnsworth said it’s great the first part of phase 2 is funded. The next part, north of Old
Bingham Hwy, is being proposed in the Transit Transportation Investment Fund (TTIF), that
needs to be operational for them to start building phase 2 northbound and that has been applied
for in the RAISE grant by UTA. This would allow them to build phase 2 north of Old Bingham
Highway and convert all those intersections to interchanges. They don’t have the frontage roads
like the city has south of Old Bingham Highway but that will make it more affordable.
Mayor Ramsey said even just doing the extension and continuing it all the way saves a huge
amount of time, making it a reasonable drive.
Mr. Farnsworth said he believes that is scheduled to start construction in 2023.
Manager Whatcott said out here we don’t have regular bus service, we have micro transit being
tested out here; is this what their modeling is capturing, or do they do all types of service? We
have no regular bus service here in any direction, so he was curious how this was represented in
their modeling.
Mr. Farnsworth said they included all routes that are current and planned in the future, but he
believes that is modeled on another road, possibly 10600 South. There are no routes placed to
test things, it is based on what UTA is already planning on doing. In their travel demand model
they do assume that Mountain View Corridor and Bangerter Highway are converted to freeway
systems, and that 10600 South is seven lanes as all of that is happening by 2050. They want to
find the best ways to reach out to the public, whether through surveys, emails, etc.
Council Member Shelton likes approaching it like the environmental studies for the interchanges
on Bangerter, with open houses allowing people to come and make suggestions and give their
feedback. You won’t get everyone so he feels letter and surveys will also have to be utilized.
Mr. Farnsworth said they have a limited budget so they will work to see what is the most
important. He also asked if there are any timing concerns, like if it’s too soon with the Bangerter
closure.
Mayor Ramsey said we should hold off as people are starting to get used to the traffic, but it
would help to allow some more progress on the interchanges before addressing this.
E.3. Bingham Creek Regional Park Authority member appointment. (By Strategic
Services Director, Don Tingey)
Director Tingey said when the Bingham Creek Park Authority Interlocal Agreement was created,
there was a seven member board that was to be appointed mutually between the county and the
city. For the seven people they currently have two employees, Colby Hill with South Jordan City
Parks and Recreation and Patrick Leary the new Parks Division Manager with Salt Lake County;
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that leaves five spots. Angela McGuire is a resident, himself and Martin Jensen are proposed to
be on the committee to begin with. In talking with Mark Jensen they would like to propose
Wayne Johnson who is the retired Division Manager from Salt Lake County and he is a South
Jordan resident as well; they also want to recommend Wendy Thomas who is a former South
Jordan Recreation Associate Director and a South Jordan Resident. Wendy works for Herriman
City starting as their Parks Director and is now their Assistant City Manager. Those would be the
seven names they would bring back, he is asking for the city’s feedback and/or approval to bring
those names back. They are coordinating this with the county so they are presented really close
to meetings with each other, however Martin broke his foot and has had surgery that has delayed
things a little bit.
Mayor Ramsey said she likes that these are residents of South Jordan City, but they also have
professional experience in this area.
Manager Whatcott said especially for the first few years, until it gets off its feet this is great. This
is a good group to start with.
Council Member Harris asked if Wendy Thomas is acting solely as a South Jordan resident, or is
she going to be consulting with Herriman City Council on the park.
Director Tingey said she does fill both roles. He doesn’t know if she would consult with
Herriman City, but the county looked at her as having a broader than South Jordan view of being
at the park. As they’ve talked, they’ve discussed West Jordan residents as well but they haven’t
put anything into the park.
Council Member Harris said neither West Jordan nor Herriman is contributing money to this
park, so he wants to make sure that Ms. Thomas is not doing any consulting with the city
manager or the city council on her voting.
Director Tingey said that is not the intent because the city and county are the ones putting the
money into the park, not any other city.
Council Member Zander said she will be influenced by her city council though, and that’s their
concern.
Mayor Ramsey asked what the term limit is.
Director Tingey said he believes it is two three year terms.
Mayor Ramsey asked what the process was for if someone steps down, or the city/county wants
someone removed.
Director Tingey said he doesn’t recall other than them saying they are mutually appointed. The
intent was that they mutually appointed the body, the appointees aren’t being identified by who
appointed them.
Mayor Ramsey asked if it would be up to the city and county to make a change, or would that be
up to the Park Authority Board itself. She asked to get that information clarified before they
voted on the names.
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Council Member Harris said his issue is that down the road they start having issues with sports
fields and she goes back to her council and says she is on this authority board and can have some
influence when they aren’t spending any money on the project. He has an issue with her being
appointed to this position.
Council Member Zander said Angela McGuire came to them and they were able to speak with
her, she would like the same opportunity with all the appointees.
The Council agreed they want Mr. Johnson and Ms. Thomas in to speak with them before voting.
Mayor Ramsey asked for a motion to amend the agenda and move Item F to the end of the next
meeting, making it Item I and adding an Executive Closed Session for the discussion of the
purchase, exchange or lease of real property.
Council Member Shelton motioned to move Item F from this agenda as stated above to
Item I on the next meeting’s agenda. Council Member McGuire seconded the motion, vote
was unanimous in favor.
RECESS CITY COUNCIL STUDY MEETING AND MOVE TO EXECUTIVE CLOSED SESSION
F. Executive Closed Session: Discussion of the purchase, exchange, or lease of real
property.
ADJOURN CLOSED SESSION AND RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL STUDY MEETING
Council Member Zander motioned to adjourn the study session meeting. Council Member
Marlor seconded the motion, vote was unanimous in favor.
ADJOURNMENT
The August 3, 2021 City Council electronic study meeting adjourned at 6:41 p.m.
D.2. CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
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CITY COUNCIL MEETING
August 9, 2021
Present: Mayor Dawn R. Ramsey, Council Member Patrick Harris, Council Member Brad
Marlor, Council Member Don Shelton, Council Member Tamara Zander, Council
Member Jason McGuire, CM Gary Whatcott, ACM Dustin Lewis, Assistant City
Attorney Ed Montgomery, Strategic Services Director Don Tingey, Chief Financial
Officer Sunil Naidu, City Commerce Director Brian Preece, Administrative Services
Director Spencer Kyle, Police Chief Jeff Carr, City Recorder Anna Crookston,
Engineering Director Brad Klavano, Public Works Director Jason Rasmussen,
Planning Director Steven Schaefermeyer, Communications Manager Rachael
VanCleave, Fire Chief Chris Dawson, IT Director Jon Day, GIS Coordinator Matt
Jarman, Meeting Transcriptionist Diana Baun, Interim Mulligans Business Manager
Abagail Patonai, Director of Government Affairs Melinda Seager
Others: Carol Brown, Bob Paxton, Bryan Synan, Cory Brady, Amanda Hill, David Hill
6:53 P.M.
REGULAR MEETING
A. Welcome, Roll Call, and Introduction to Electronic Meeting - By Mayor Dawn R.
Ramsey
Mayor Ramsey welcomed everyone present.
B. Invocation – By Council Member, Jason McGuire
Council Member Jason McGuire offered the invocation.
C. Pledge of Allegiance – By Director of Administrative Services, Spencer Kyle
Director of Administrative Services Spencer Kyle led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Mayor Ramsey asked for a motion to amend the agenda by removing Item H, the public hearing on
Ordinance 2021-17, at the applicant’s request to bring it back at a later date which moves Staff
Reports and Calendaring Items to Item H and adding an Executive Closed Session for discussion of
purchase, exchange or lease of real property as Item I at the end of this meeting.
Council Member Marlor motioned to amend the agenda as described above, removing Public
Hearing Item H at the request of the applicant and adding Item I, an Executive Closed Session
as described above. Council Member McGuire seconded the motion, vote was unanimous in
favor.
D. Minute Approval
D.1. July 20, 2021 City Council Meeting
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Council Member Marlor made a motion to approve the July 20, 2021 City Council meeting
minutes as printed. Council Member Zander seconded the motion, the vote was unanimous in
favor.
E. Mayor and Council Reports
Council Member Jason McGuire had nothing to report.
Council Member Tamara Zander reported a few of them got to attend the police compensation
meeting on Wednesday at the Public Safety Building and it was the first time she had ever been in
the room with practically our entire police force, it was a privilege for her as she also had her 20 year
old daughter sitting next to her; she told her to let this impress and impact her life forever. Her
daughter has had further conversations with other millennials about what she saw and how she felt
about the meeting and she thinks that’s how we change the course of what’s going on in our
communities. We can help people realize the reality of what’s going on with our police force. She
took pictures and had pictures shared with her thanks to Communications Manager Rachael Van
Cleave and Police Administrative Assistant Jeanene Clark. She shared some of those pictures on
social media and all the comments were good except for one, and she engaged with that person and
explained how we can’t judge an entire group of people by the actions of one or two people; we can’t
do that with teachers, lawyers, planning commission members or city council members as it’s not
fair. She has taken it as an opportunity to advocate for the police department and for the good officers
we have. As we finished that meeting which she felt was a great privilege, she asked Deputy Chief
Jason Knight to hear some feedback about how things went and how it was received. She read an
email from Deputy Chief Knight regarding that night, he said “Mrs. Zander, you asked me to share
with you what I hear about the presentation today so I thought I’d share this tidbit. All smiles and
happy people, which you would expect. A few speechless folks that are still wrapping their heads
around it because it is so unprecedented. A very young police officer who came to us from the
department of corrections, a very underpaid agency, called and told his young wife and mother of
their brand new baby. The young lady, the mother, drove down to the police department that day to
see the changes for herself in the police compensation plan and the two of them celebrated in the
parking lot in a jubilant fashion.” She loved that, which just warms her heart. These are good people
and they are doing a critical role in our society and she will always be supportive of public safety.
She is thankful for the opportunity to be there because it changed her, and she will continue to be a
strong advocate for good officers in our city and elsewhere. She added that this coming Friday and
Saturday there is an activity going on in Daybreak called the FizzFest, in SoDa Row. It is an art
related event and they just opened their new office in that area with about 6,000 square feet. The Live
Daybreak Group came to her, the Zander Real Estate Team, and asked if they would host the art
exhibit. This Friday and Saturday from 6:00-10:00 pm they will have about 43 different local artists
displayed in their office in SoDa Row. She is excited to be in her new space and they just moved to
double the office space for the Zander Real Estate Brokerage, they are having their Grand Opening
August 28, everyone is invited for a ribbon cutting by the Chamber of Commerce. She is grateful to
be a business owner in the city.
Council Member Brad Marlor also attended the public safety compensation meeting and was
impressed with the great bunch of men and women that were there. It was a great day for South
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Jordan, not just for the police and public safety employees. These employees will be continuing to
serve here in the city, rather than going somewhere else to get better pay and he is very grateful for
that. He has still not had an Architectural Review Committee Meeting, it has been almost a year.
Council Member Patrick Harris also attended the police compensation meeting and it was a pleasure
to be in a room with all the officers of our city, they do a fantastic job. It was a privilege to make sure
we are paying a fair wage compared to what other cities are paying and making sure our officers that
serve us so well are being treated properly. He did not mention in the last meeting that his kids
participated in the SoJo Glow Race Series and he thought the city staff and volunteers did a fantastic
job. When all the kids lined up there they did a great job getting it all organized and speaking at their
level, making it a fun activity afterwards as well. In his opinion, if his kids leave with a smile on their
faces and they are talking about it, it was a success.
Council Member Don Shelton had the opportunity to attend the July 24 celebration at Glenmoor Golf
course where it was a lot of fun. The mayor came and kicked off the fireworks and he thought it was
really nice. He appreciated the firemen that were out there to make sure that it was all safe and
appropriately done. He was out of town all last week and missed the police compensation meeting,
but he is very supportive of what is being done there.
Mayor Dawn Ramsey said the Pioneer Day Event was a highlight for her, it was great to be there and
there were a lot of people there to celebrate our beautiful state. She had lunch with the Chairman of
the Board with UTA and he wanted to know what concerns South Jordan has, what they can address,
and shared with her some very good news. He said they are going to continue with the micro transit
project that has been a very successful pilot project; people are using it and it has been a good
method for providing transit in our city that is different. It is on demand transit and instead of calling
it VIA, which is still the company that is going to be providing the service, they are going to call it
UTA On Demand Service. They are also going to be extending their hours and they are mindful of
our needs as we grow. She stood with the governor and lieutenant governor at the press conference
about the drought last week at the Jordan Valley Water Conservation District. She was invited to
attend because she is a trustee of the water district and she wasn’t scheduled to speak but the
lieutenant governor asked her to come up and stand with her. They had the chance to stand with the
governor and she was very proud to represent not just the water district, but our city specifically who
was named in the press conference as one of the four cities who have adopted new water wise and
water conservation ordinances for new development going forward. She wants to acknowledge our
council and staff who have worked very hard to make that happen and again give a shout out to the
great work taking place here. The mayor of St. George traveled up to speak, she represented Southern
Utah, and as they talked she was aware that our water conservation program is comparable to St.
George and theirs is the most robust really in the state. She hopes this is something other
communities will follow. The mayor of St. George was leaving to have a meeting with their council
of government down in Southern Utah and Washington County and they were getting together to
have this discussion because St. George alone can’t do it. After hearing that, Mayor Ramsey has
decided this is something she is going to put on some agendas with the other cities and have
continued conversations about what they can all do together. She recorded a podcast with a brilliant
young man who is from South Jordan. All of his family lives here and his grandfather has the longest
running continuous business license in the city. He has a podcast called Millenial in the Middle and
he does a great job, they were able to talk about the city and some of the great work taking place
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here. She met with the League of Cities and Towns, they are working really hard and have put
together a group called Officers Plus to work on some of the things that they know they will be
discussing during the legislative session and some of the things they will be working on. They have a
really strong presence at the Legislative Priority Committee of the League of Cities and Towns from
South Jordan and there is going to be a lot of time expended in that area; there will probably be a lot
of updates about that. It is a great opportunity to work with our legislators and make sure that they
are aware of the needs and responsibilities in local government as sometimes it’s easy for those who
don’t serve in this arena to forget that local government exists for public safety and zoning, to be able
to develop and plan our communities the way we as residents of this community want. The Economic
Opportunities Commission is really under way with the state; they have been meeting and they will
have lots of meetings about that and she will be bringing back updates. She had the chance to visit
with Wasatch Front Regional Council and to talk about some of the transportation needs as our city
continues to grow in regards to the big picture transportation plan for the region. People are aware,
those who make decisions and help fund know we are growing.
F. Public Comment:
Cory Brady (Resident) has lived in South Jordan for about 30 years. He thanked the council for the
work they’ve done, as well as our public safety officers. The second stop sign headed east from 1300
West is right in front of his house, as well as a sidewalk which effectively took all parking from his
frontage and he is happy to deal with that. He wants to say nothing but the very best for our officers
here in South Jordan. Over the last 30 years he has had different opportunities for them both to
provide security at his home and his neighbors’ and they have always had a quick response, he wants
to thank them for that. He is here because of a public hearing notice that he is concerned about, it has
been impossible for him to find any information on it. This is regarding the public utilities easement
vacation that has been requested by applicant Josh Guerra. There is a sewer easement that runs right
next to his property, he has easements on three sides of his property and he knows the property in
question has had five lots proposed on it. He understands the new owner not wanting to have that cut
up so they can build how they want. He asked the council if they could get a little more information;
a sign was posted on the sidewalk, blew over promptly and he hasn’t been able to navigate the site
very well to get specific information on the item. His concerns are in vacating anything on a pre-
planned situation, this individual purchased the property knowing the easements were there. He is
representing two other neighbors who are out of town and have adjacent properties. Where there are
already existing easements for those who have been there a really long time, being asked to vacate an
additional easement puts additional burden on those around them. He asks that the council take a
look as first in time and first in line on water rights as it is something that makes long term residents
feel pushed aside for new development. He wants to be considerate of the person whose property this
is, they are planning for it to be one estate and that’s great, but he is very concerned about how in the
future that overburdens other existing right of ways.
Bob Paxton (Resident) wanted to thank everyone for the work they have been doing, he really
appreciated the mayor’s comments about water concerns as that is a big thing right now. For 2020
and 2021 we have experienced years of heat and water shortages. Many of the residents of South
Jordan have large lots filled with trees, shrubs, grasses, etc. The green in our yards provides cooler
temperatures, his backyard has yet to reach 100 degrees, even though we have had nearly 20 days of
100 degree heat this year; the highest they have seen in his yard is 98.6 and that’s because of trees,
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shrubs, hedges and grass. It also provides air purification, oxygen, beauty and quality of life. One of
his questions is whether the residents will be asked to let these investments die. Over the past 30+
years just his water bill to keep things going has been $30,000, let alone the expense of putting
everything in. He believes we have far exceeded in our county the depth of the natural resources
around, which would be especially water and air quality problems. Plans and past zoning he believes
addressed the limited supply of water, but in the county these plans have been altered and changed so
that we no longer represent the true plans for the true amount of water which we have had. He
follows Alta Ski Area as he has skied there for 50 years and they in fact had 87% of the 40 year
average this year, and that 40 year average has dropped for the last 10 years by 90 inches; Alta
exceeded our 10 year average, but when you look at the statistics the water is diminishing with the
population skyrocketing. He asked what our city, county and state are doing and planning to deal
with this huge population surge that we are experiencing; will there be any moratoriums, will we
work with surrounding states to try to come up with water from the Columbia River or some other
place. Will we work with California, Nevada and Arizona as we have a definite problem with growth
in the west. We the public don’t know what the plans really are. When he moved into his subdivision
30 years ago they had irrigation rights and the city did not connect them, they refused to do that;
probably because there wasn’t enough money back in those days. Are there any plans in the future to
connect some of these older subdivisions with irrigation water so they might lower their bill and
enjoy their yards and water.
Mayor Ramsey closed the public comment part of the meeting. She mentioned that the governor
asked cities to install secondary water meters and this is something South Jordan has been doing, the
state is appropriating a lot of money to do this as there is data that proves simply installing secondary
meters lowers the usage and saves a lot of water. Similar to our “Flip the Strip” program we have
here that we administer ourselves, the governor would like to find a mechanism for the state to be
able to do similar things like buying people’s sod and helping put in more water wise plants.
G. Action Item: Resolution R2021-27, Authorizing the Mayor to sign Interlocal Agreement
with South Valley Sewer District to lease a building for the City’s Water Reuse Pilot
Project. (By Director of Public Works, Jason Rasmussen)
Director of Public Works Jason Rasmussen said this agreement allows the South Valley
Sewer District to let us use space inside their building to install water purification
equipment as our pilot test project. This agreement sets terms and conditions that the sewer
district is comfortable with, that we are comfortable with, and will allow us to access the
site when we need to which may be during regular or “off” hours. There will be some work
required, as discussed during the study session; when we are done there in about five years
we will remove some things and restore the room to where it was and there will be a small
cost to do that.
Mayor Ramsey asked him to speak to how long he thinks it will be before we can really get
up and going with this now that we have the space, this has gone on for so long with so
much regulation and we are almost there.
Director Rasmussen said they have ordered all of the equipment, five different pieces of
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treatment equipment that the water will go through to become purified and to drinking
water standards; the last piece should be arriving the end of October or the first part of
November. In the meantime, we will have this agreement in place (if approved) that will
have the sewer district allow us to get in there and start doing all the prep work to put in
these treatment skids and start purifying water. He is hoping by the end of this year it will
be up and going, processing and purifying water. They would love to have everyone down
there to see it in action before the end of the year.
Mayor Ramsey said maybe when it’s ready they could do their own ribbon cutting. This is
a big deal and something we are going to be very proud of. This is revolutionary for water
reuse in the state of Utah. The intention was to try drinking it soon, but to progress the
regulatory process we have agreed not to do drinking samples and reapply in a couple of
years to address that again.
Director Rasmussen said they are going to treat it, test the water quality and provide that to
the state. He believes after a year they will be in a place to start allowing samples.
Mayor Ramsey said the Director of Water Quality for the State of Utah said he’ll be here
with us, the first time we do samples and tasting he’ll come and stand there with us and
drink it.
Director Rasmussen said the technology is there, it’s just the regulatory side of getting
them comfortable.
Council Member Zander Motioned to approve Resolution R2021-27, Authorizing the
Mayor to sign an Interlocal Agreement with South Valley Sewer District. Council
Member Shelton seconded the motion, vote was unanimous in favor.
Council Member Shelton said this has been going on for 15 or more years and City
Manager Gary Whatcott has been leading that charge all along. He is grateful to him for his
efforts on that.
Council Member Marlor said he remembers back in early 2000, Manager Whatcott talking
about “re-using” and wondering what he was talking about. It has been a long time and it
has finally come to fruition.
H. Staff Reports and Calendaring Items
Manager Whatcott said Doug Brown, our Manager at Mulligan’s, has left us moving on to other
things. He wanted to introduce Interim Mulligan’s Business Manager Abby Patonai, who was
joining via Zoom. Ms. Patonai is filling in as interim while they are looking for a new manager.
She has worked for the city for a number of years in Finance but she is very capable and she is
doing a really good job. He is happy she was willing to step into the role for a little bit. There was
a major pump failure down at Mulligan’s and it caused the grass to really brown, this was not on
purpose. Director Rasmussen’s team stepped up to help and they got the pump rebuilt and it is
now operational again. Some of the team went down and watered by hand with pumps and helped
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restore some of the dormancy of the grass. He asked the mayor to go over the unique set up for the
next City Council Meeting.
Mayor Ramsey said she confirmed that we will be starting our August 17 council meeting at 7:30
p.m. We will have our regular work meeting at 4:30 p.m., and when that concludes we will go
over to the Public Safety Building to welcome Congressman Owens who is coming here to do his
Town Hall. The council will have the chance to greet him and say hello to any residents who
come. The mayor will then, at his request, introduce the congressman and afterwards we will come
back here for our council meeting. The meeting with Congressman Owens will begin at 7:00 p.m.
Manager Whatcott said this will be announced next week on all the regular outlets that our council
meeting will be at 7:30 p.m.
Mayor Ramsey reiterated that we are doing this at Congressman Owens’ request.
Police Chief Jeff Carr thanked the council and mayor for being at the meeting last week, it had a
huge impact on his employees to see all of them there. They communicated to them that they had
the support of the entire council. He wanted to thank Herriman and Riverton for covering our
calls, they were in our city covering our calls so every officer that was available could be there. As
soon as the meeting started there was an armed theft in the District area with two suspects running
away with knives and Riverton handled that for us. They have a great partnership with both
Riverton and Herriman; Herriman covered the west side of the city, Riverton covered the east side
of the city. We also do tactical operations with those two cities, we have a joint SWAT Team as
well as a car team to investigate major collisions that occur in the three cities so they have some
regional partnerships that they value. He wants to publicly thank both cities for their help that day.
Obviously his employees are very appreciative of what happened, but since last week he is aware
of two cities who have formally done similar things, West Jordan and South Salt Lake, and they
have comparable plans to ours now. There are also several other cities that are in the process of
talking, he got a call today from the Riverton Chief asking for more information about that. He
was at a meeting yesterday with about 40 police chiefs and sheriffs who met with the governor to
have a forum. The Beaver County Sheriff brought up what was happening in Salt Lake County
and he had at least half a dozen chiefs come up to him after wanting information on the pay plan
and things like that, which he relayed to them. He thinks it is fair to say that there seems to be a
rebalancing of public safety and the pay compensation on the police side. He doesn’t know exactly
what to expect going forward, but he would expect in Salt Lake County everyone is going to be in
that neighborhood. Everyone feels a high degree of pride in the city for what was done and how
quickly we reacted to it.
Mayor Ramsey said that while they were there with all the officers, a representative of Murray
called and asked about the new plan they were unveiling. As soon as she left, the mayor of
Riverton called and had heard the same thing.
Chief Carr said he received several texts while the meeting was going on from chiefs who had
received pictures from our officers to their officers, it didn’t take long for word to spread.
Engineering Director Brad Klavano said regarding 2200 West, their storm drain master plan was
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updated and it was determined that we needed to run a new line in 2200 West from 9800 South
down to the canal. They want to get that done prior to overlaying the road, so they are going to
wrap that up the weekend of August 14 and the 15, but to do that they will have to close the
intersection at 9800 South and 2200 West for Saturday and Sunday. They are hoping it won’t take
the full two days, but he will get the Variable Message Signs (VMS) out and will have the detour
signs up. It will affect traffic mostly on Saturday, but Sunday traffic is usually fairly light. The
plan is to overlay the road completely around the first of September and should be done with the
overlay prior to SummerFest and the parade.
Mayor Ramsey asked how far South down 2200 West this goes.
Director Klavano said it goes all the way from 11400 South to West Jordan, it is just finishing all
the pieces of curb, gutter and sidewalk that we are missing. The overlay will go from 11400 South
to 10400 South. We did the section from 10400 South to 9800 South last year, and then it will go
from 9800 South up to West Jordan. It will be a basically brand new street with curb, gutter and
sidewalk. They couldn’t get the park strip in the federal aid bid, however we have money and they
are working on that separately to bid out this winter and install the park strip in the spring and it
will be done with the water wise rules per our code. Street light bases were part of the project and
the conduits, but the lights themselves were not; he is working with Director Rasmussen and his
crew with some funding there and those street lights should be up and running by November.
Mayor Ramsey said she asked because of all the high school students who park along 2200 West.
Jordan District also just announced that Bingham will be starting virtually the first two weeks
because they are still under construction; this gives us two more weeks before students are parking
along there.
Director Klavano said the students don’t really start parking near this area until the school year
goes on and the sophomores get their licenses and they can’t get permits in the parking lot. The
other issue he wanted to discuss was that UDOT held some meetings for the environmental on
9800 South and Bangerter last week on Zoom and in person at Elk Ridge Elementary. He was able
to attend the meeting at Elk Ridge and tried to stay anonymous as a city employee but it didn’t last
long. He expects the mayor and Council Member Marlor will start getting calls soon. Most of the
people who live along or back up to 9800 South are against an actual interchange or connection
there; they would like to see it go like 11800 South. City staff, himself and Manager Whatcott
have talked and done a traffic analysis before UDOT even got involved and now UDOT is doing
the same thing. It really creates a lot of traffic issues to other streets when they don’t have that as
an interchange. He feels strongly that it needs to be an interchange for traffic circulation,
connectivity, and even if it’s taken away their modeling only shows it drops the traffic 10%. If you
leave it as an interchange, by 2050 it increases 10%; it doesn’t really change a lot either way as far
as 9800 South goes. It does however put additional traffic on 3200 West and 4000 West because
they have to get off on 10400 South or 9000 South and then come back and get on 9800 South.
We are a long, linear city and to only have two connections to Bangerter Highway would, in his
opinion, be a huge mistake. We already only have two to I-15 which is a problem. UDOT has told
him they will hold to the interchange even though all the negative stuff has come up, but it is
going to be a lot of ugly press. They just want to make sure that the city and city council are really
behind that and they will go forward. If anyone has other input or ideas he would like to know
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now before he keeps relaying that information to UDOT that they are really behind an interchange
here.
Council Member Shelton said he has already had a phone call.
Director Klavano said it is amazing how many people drop and pick up kids out of Elk Ridge and
jump on Bangerter, which would be a huge deal taking that away.
Council Member Marlor is already getting phone calls but he expected them.
Director Klavano said they are meeting with the school district quite often on the pedestrian bridge
because if they re-do the pedestrian bridge and take Bangerter over, they will have to move that
bridge really far north or south to get the road back down. The elementary school boundaries on
the west side of Bangerter are north of 9800 South, so really the only option would be to move it
north; however, they move it that far north and no kids are really going to use it and we are going
to spend $5 million dollars for a structure that really won’t be used. They are looking at an option
called a “tight diamond” which brings them in and stops them at a signal, to him it would be really
easy to cross them there with crossing guards and the state would fund them forever. He knows a
lot of the parents are saying there is a bridge now so they want one back, but the problem is they
can’t put the bridge right back where it was.
Mayor Ramsey asked for him to address again for those listening why 9800 South can’t go under.
Director Klavano said the problem is that the Jordan Aqueduct hugs Bangerter there. To the south
it diverges just past 10200 South and goes through the Walmart and Costco parking lots, this is
why at 11400 South and 10400 South we could go under because the aqueduct isn’t there. When
they build the retaining walls down they do walls that go back about 80 feet and puncturing that
nail through the pipe is a problem. They would either have to shift Bangerter really far west and
take out part of the school, which people have said would be better to do, or they have to move the
aqueduct which means they have to buy a lot of homes to move it further to the east. They are
looking at the option and will come up with some rough costs, but despite people saying money
shouldn’t be an option, the reality is that it is in everything that we do. We also have our own
waterlines and sewer lines that he doesn’t know where they would be relocated. With 10400 South
they found a way to do it next to Walmart and on 11400 South there weren’t any lines going
through there.
Council Member Zander said Director Klavano mentioned it will have to go over, however at
12600 South they did a modified half over and under and she was wondering if we could do
something like that.
Director Klavano said the costs of that are higher, Riverton did have to pay some of the cost for
that because they are lowering utilities and other things, and his opinion is they gained nothing out
of it. They still have the bridge and it’s really complicated to construct that way.
Council Member Zander asked if we will be at a height similar to 7800 South.
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Director Klavano said approximately, yes. The span is not as big as 9000 South and 7800 South so
it won’t be quite as massive as a structure. He has discussed with UDOT that even if they didn’t
have an interchange, in order to build the flyover they have to build the ramps to take the traffic
around while they’re building the flyover; when you build the ramps it would be silly not to leave
the ramps.
Council Member McGuire motioned to recess the City Council Meeting and move to an
Executive Closed Session to discuss the purchase, exchange or lease of real property. Council
Member Zander seconded the motion, vote was unanimous in favor.
RECESS CITY COUNCIL STUDY MEETING AND MOVE TO EXECUTIVE CLOSED SESSION
I. Executive Closed Session: Discussion of the purchase, exchange, or lease of real
property.
ADJOURN CLOSED SESSION AND RETURN TO CITY COUNCIL STUDY MEETING
Council Member Zander made a motion to adjourn the executive closed session meeting and
return to the City Council Meeting. Council Member McGuire seconded the motion, the vote
was unanimous in favor.
ADJOURNMENT
Council Member Shelton made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Council Member Marlor
seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous in favor.
The August 3, 2021 City Council meeting adjourned at 8:47 p.m.
G.1. PUBLIC HEARING ITEM:ORDINANCE 2021-15, AMENDING SECTION 13.12.145 OF THE SOUTH JORDAN MUNICIPAL CODE
REGULATING ILLICIT STORM WATER DISCHARGES.
SOUTH JORDAN CITY CITY COUNCIL REPORT Council Meeting Date: August 17, 2021
Issue: Updates to Title 13 of the South Jordan Municipal Code Storm Water Illicit Discharges Submitted By: Jason Rasmussen Department: Public Works Staff Recommendation (Motion Ready): Approve Ordinance 2021-15 BACKGROUND: The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and State of Utah Dept. of Environmental Quality (DEQ) have enacted certain laws pertaining to municipal storm water systems (Mto adhere to all storm water system laws, rules and practices. The DEQ has been performing
th storm water
being delayed due to Covid. Recently the City received the inspection findings from the DEQ that included certain actions items that need attention. TEAM FINDINGS, CONCLUSIONS & RECOMMENDATIONS: FINDINGS: One of the action items identified in the DEQ findings relates to the illicit discharge prohibitions within Title 13 of the City Municipal code. The DEQ is requiring an update of this section of code for the City to comply with its current MS4 permit. The update specifically identifies emergency firefighting activities as being exempt from prohibited storm system discharges.
CONCLUSIONS: By updating Title 13 of the City Municipal code related to illicit
ment identified in the inspection. RECOMMENDATIONS: Approve Ordinance 2021-15. FISCAL IMPACT: N/A ALTERNATIVES: Not approve Ordinance 2021-15
SUPPORT MATERIALS: N/A City Council Action Requested: Department Head Date
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ORDINANCE NO. 2021 - 15
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN, UTAH, AMENDING SECTION 13.12.145 OF THE SOUTH JORDAN MUNICIPAL CODE REGULATING ILLICIT STORM WATER DISCHARGES.
WHEREAS, Utah Code § 10-9a-102 grants the City Council of the City of South Jordan essary or appropriate for
the health, safety and welfare of the residents of the City of ; and
WHEREAS, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and State of Utah Dept. of Environmental Quality (DEQ) enacted certain laws pertaining to municipal storm
and
WHEREAS, the DEQ performed certain action items that need attention, including the illicit discharge prohibitions within Title 13 of the City Code; and
WHEREAS, the City Council desires to amend City Code § 13.12.145 to update the Code and bring it into conformity with EPA and DEQ regulations on illicit storm water discharges; and
WHEREAS, the City Council held a public hearing and reviewed the subject text amendment; and
WHEREAS, the City Council finds that the subject text amendment will enhance the public health, safety and welfare of the residents of South Jordan City.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN, UTAH:
SECTION 1. Amendment. City Code § 13.12.145 is amended as shown in Exhibit A to this Ordinance.
SECTION 2. Severability. If any section, part or provision of this Ordinance is held invalid or unenforceable, such invalidity or unenforceability shall not affect any other portion of this Ordinance and all sections, parts, provisions and words of this Ordinance shall be severable.
SECTION 3. Effective Date. This Ordinance shall become effective immediately upon publication or posting as required by law.
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PASSED AND ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH JORDAN, UTAH, ON THIS ______ DAY OF ______________, 2021 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: YES NO ABSTAIN ABSENT Patrick Harris Bradley Marlor Donald Shelton Tamara Zander Jason McGuire Mayor: Attest: Dawn R. Ramsey City Recorder Approved as to form: Office of the City Attorney
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EXHIBIT A
13.12.145: ILLICIT DISCHARGES:
A. Scope: This section shall apply to all water generated on developed or undeveloped land entering the city's separate stormwater system.
B. Prohibition Of Illicit Discharges: No person shall introduce or cause to be introduced into the municipal separate storm sewer system any discharge that is not composed entirely of stormwater. The commencement, conduct or continuance of any nonstormwater discharge to the municipal separate storm sewer system is prohibited except as described as follows:
1. Uncontaminated discharges from the following sources:
a. Water line flushing or other potable water sources (if dechlorinated, typically less than 1 ppm chlorine),
b. Landscape irrigation or lawn watering with potable water,
c. Diverted stream flows,
d. Rising groundwater,
e. Groundwater infiltration to storm drains,
f. Uncontaminated pumped groundwater,
g. Discharges from potable water sources,
h. Foundation or footing drains, crawl space pumps,
i. Lawn watering runoff,
j. Individual residential car washing,
k. Air conditioning condensation,
l. Irrigation water,
m. Springs,
n. Natural riparian habitat or wetland flows,
o. Swimming pools (if dechlorinated, typically less than 1 ppm chlorine),
p. Water reservoir discharges (if dechlorinated, typically less than 1 ppm chlorine),
q. Residual street wash water,
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r. Discharges or flows from emergency firefighting activities, and
s. Any other uncontaminated water source.
t. Discharges specified in writing by the city engineer as being necessary to protect public health and safety.
u. Dye testing is an allowable discharge if the city engineer has so specified in writing.
v. The prohibition shall not apply to any nonstormwater discharge permitted under a UPDES permit, waiver, or waste discharge order issued to the discharger and administered under the authority of the state of Utah division of water quality, provided that the discharger is in full compliance with all requirements of the permit, waiver, or order and other applicable laws and regulations, and provided that written approval has been granted for any discharge to the storm drain system.
G.2. PUBLIC HEARING ITEM:ORDINANCE 2021-16, AMENDING SECTION 17.130.030 OF THE SOUTH JORDAN MUNICIPAL CODE
REGULATING THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT FLOATING ZONE.