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Ronald Green's Attack to me, and the TRUTH of God that was restored by CHRIST through his

Chosen Apostle Herbert W Armstrong!

I document this not to offend, but to inform. I wish no ill will toward him or those who follow

Fred Coulter's smooth talking.

The Post's

My note titled...

The Time Has Come for Fasting and Prayer!

We are in the last days of this present world. God's Church has not been ready for Christ's

coming. Here's the way to become ready.

by Herbert W. Armstrong

page 2 Good News January 1980

Note

https://www.facebook.com/notes/timothy-kitchen-jr/the-time-has-come-for-fasting-and-

prayer-by-herbert-w-armstrong/458778910841012?notif_t=note_comment

COMMENTS

Ronald Greene

How can you know if 300,000 people are not ready? Did Jesus say: WORK OUT YOUR OWN

SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING. Did Jesus not say no man can come to the Father

except through me. And did not Jesus say, No one can come to Me unless the Father draws

them. And did not Jesus say, cast not your pearls before SWINES.

4 hours ago

Timothy Kitchen Jr

I'm sorry I cast the Rope of Truth to save those within the Swine. This is a call of remembrance.

Those who are part of the True Body of Christ will see it, some won't in time, but will be given a

chance later on. But the Swine will attack this truth, and attack the one God Chose to wrote it.

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They will attack those who put this truth out there. God is not calling them. This is just a call to

remembrance for those who KNOW the truth.

4 hours ago

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Ronald Greene posted toTimothy Kitchen Jr's Wall

6 hours ago

Timothy, you vowed that you would block me if I attacked Mr. Armstrong or you. But you are

attacking me and my minister whom I respect and adore. So I'm not going to block you. I never

pick a fight, but I never run from one either. I hope you read Romans 8:9 and verse 14. I'm

obeying God to be at peace with all men. You accused Mr. Coulter of hating the Jews. Speaking

the truth is not hate. You also accuse Mr. Coulter of being marked due to causing dissension.Are you not trying to cause dissension between Mr. Coulter and I and other people on Facebook

when you condemn the way the practice their religion. Jesus is not calling them yet. They have

rights too, even if they are wrong. God appointed and anointed His ministry to do His work and

all of God's ministers are baptized even though some were born into the church as you say. No

one is born into the church. God calls and choses those whom He selects. Self-appointments is

not godly. Having zeal is one thing, but you are using all of your energy attacking instead of

teaching and encouraging. Have you even read the whole Bible or even have a degree in

Theology or completed the Bible Correspondence courses from WCG?

COMMENTS

Ronald Greene

I sincerely believe that Mr. Armstrong would not approve of what you are doing. You have NO

COLLEGE experience to help you to know how to reach all kinds of people. And surely you have

no military experience that teaches discipline and RESPECT FOR YOUR ELDERS. You are doing

more to turn people away from Christ. People read what you write and if you could only know

what they are saying. I don't see the like button checked too many times from what you are

writing on Facebook. Come on Timothy, you are doing more harm than good. You did at least

check out what Mr. Coulter is preaching. What kind of person are you to condemn such a

person without even listening to what he has to say? But you expect people to listen to you.

You write way too much at one time. you have to give milk first.

6 hours ago

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Timothy Kitchen Jr

Mr. Greene, I never picked a fight. As you say, I never run from one either. You say I condemn

people for the way they practice their religion. Sir, It is Gods Way of Life that I remind people of.

God is the Same yesterday today and forever (Mal 3:6; Heb 13:8) Yet some teach that he has

changed. I grew up on the Truth, and HOLD FAST to it. The very same TRUTH Christ Restored! Ido not self appoint myself. Many today in the COG'S do so. I use ALL MY ENERGY to show the

Difference between the HOLY and the Profane. God's True people can tell the difference.

You say I don't have any COLLEGE experience. Well, Neither did Mr. Armstrong. That is

exactly what the apostates in the 1970's accused of him. And God commands us not to JOIN

THE MILITARY. So no I don't have military experience. You stated that you don't see many likes

on what I say. The Truth is not a popular thing. I listened to what he(Fred Coulter) had to say,

and it wasn't the same truth Christ restored(through his Chosen Apostle). We are not supposed

to be on milk, yet some are still on it. I don't apologize for showing the meat that was taught.

Some can't seem to chew on it yet, but give it time. We all need to grow up spiritually, that def.

includes me, it includes all of us. But Truth(meat) is Truth(meat). And We need to chew on it. I

respect your age, and experience. But I will follow Christ and the Truth. And I do apologize if i

come off as disrespectful, i do not mean it that way, if it did. I do apologize for any wrong I have

done. I will continue to post Mr. Armstrong, and continue to compare Teachings, and then

expose it.

Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of

light:

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove

(NKJV - Expose) them.

For the Truth exposes the error. Why will the Famine of the hearing of the Word come

about? Because nobody can chew it, and they choke. The Land won't be able to bear the words.

So they vomit it up and put it away from them. But God has a way to teach those type of people

to chew. I wish no ill will on anybody. You are in my prayers.

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In Christ's service

Timothy Kitchen Jr

P.S. You said I vowed to block you if you attack Mr. Armstrong, or myself. You never denied

that you don't. I won't block you, but please don't attack Mr. Armstrong and the truth, because

you see me. Believe the Truth for the Truth's sake.

4 hours ago

Timothy Kitchen Jr

And for Rom 8:9,14 You are still accusing me of not Having the Holy Spirit.And are saying I'm

not part of the Church.

Are you not attacking one of the little ones, as Christ said "Mat 18:1 At the same time came

the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

Mat 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little

children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in

the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better

for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of

the sea.

Mat 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come;

but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

Mat 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from

thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two

feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee

to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

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Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in

heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Mat 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray,

doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is

gone astray?

Mat 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep,

than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

Mat 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little

ones should perish.

Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault

between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the

mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to

hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:

and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Mat 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing

that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst

of them.

The Church taught what i put on Facebook. That is the Church's decision. If someone comes

along and changes it, without God's Permission and Authority, they are not his. I hope this

shows you what you are doing. Please stop.

In Christ's service

Timothy Kitchen Jr

4 hours ago

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Ronald Greene's post on Wall

likes a link on Scribd

October 20 at 6:02pm

FROM MY FRIEND TIMOTHY KITCHEN JR, BUT UNABLE TO PRINT.

COMMENTS

Timothy Kitchen Jr

http://thetruthrestored.wordpress.com/2012/10/20/christian-biblical-church-of-god-fred-

coulter-comparison-expose/

Christian Biblical Church of God & Fred Coulter Comparison Expose

thetruthrestored.wordpress.com

Biblical Truth that was Restored By Christ through His Apostle

October 21 at 10:42pm

Ronald Greene

You dug up this information from a group thetruthrestored.wordpress.com and I thought you

were going to at least check out a few sermons from Mr. Coulter. If you really know the truth

no one can change the truth. When I first heard Mr. Garner Ted Armstrong before I heard Mr.

Armstrong I read all the booklets and compared them with my Bible and then when I heard

from Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong I also compared what he said with the Bible. Did you give Mr.

Coulter the same chance? Did you listen to even one of Mr. Coulter's sermons first before you

went to an outside source who always slants the truth? Do you know how many sources preach

that the Worldwide Church of God is a cult? Lots of them. But I preferred to believe what a

minister says AFTER I compare it with the Bible. There are Facebook members who like Mr.

Coulter and believe he speaks the truth. And the most important thing of all is Roman 8:9 and

verse 14.

October 22 at 7:07am

Ronald Greene

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I'm going to google search "thetruthrestored.wordpress.com" and get some more

information on them. If they do not have the Holy Spirit and keeping the Passover and God's

Feast Days I will attack them to no end. But no matter what I find out, I will never attack you or

Mr. Armstrong because you already know how I feel about both of you. But I will not stand by

and allow anyone to attack any of God's servants.


Timothy Kitchen Jr

yet some support someone who DID! and still does! Fred Coulter was MARKED and

disfellowshipped from the Body of Christ by a SERVANT of God. If he doesn't repent, he will stay

that way. Time is still short, but there's time still. May God open ALL of our eyes to see. Only

God can do that.

In Christ's Only Service

Timothy


Ronald Greene

God confounds the UNGODLY. There are thousands and thousands of good Christians who

LOVE Mr. Coulter on Facebook and around the world. Anyone who seeks to discredit him with

be DEALT WITH SEVERELY. REPENT, BE BAPTIZED AND RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Anyone who does not have God's Holy Spirit do NOT BELONG TO GOD, no matter what they say

and ANYONE WHO ARE NOT LED BY GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT ARE NOT THE SONS OF GOD: Roman 8:9

and 14. In the end time more FALSE CHRISTIANS SHALL ARISE AND THERE ARE MANY ON

FACEBOOK who THINK by quoting scriptures people will THINK that they are from God. SATAN

QUOTED SCRIPTURES. By their fruits shall we know them. Even Satan TRANSFORMS HIMSELF

into an angel of LIGHT and so does HIS DEMONS HUMAN POSSESSED MINISTRY. PROVE ALL

THINGS. HOLD FAST TO THAT WHICH IS GOOD. TAKE HEED THAT NO ONE DECEIVE YOU. GOD

HAS A SPECIAL JUDGMENT AND FIERCE WRATH FOR THE DECEIVERS. NONE SHALL ESCAPE.

Monday at 11:29am

Timothy Kitchen Jr

I feel We should depart ways. To address what you have said above, I didn't seek to discredit

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him, you pointed me in his direction, so I replied that I'll look into what he teaches. I did and

decided to write a COMPARISON, comparing what Fred Coulter teaches with the Truth that was

restored by Christ, which you say is the TRUTH!. Yet now you say what Fred Coulter teaches is

the TRUTH. I have been baptized, and you CONTINUALLY accuse me falsely of NOT having the

Holy Spirit! I warn you now that are now committing the UN-pardonable sin! And I agree with

what you say about those who don't have the Holy Spirit. And what you said about deceivers.

Those who were TRULY Baptized INTO THE "TRUTH", are the TRUE Christians, in the Spiritual

body of Christ. They are UNITED in TRUTH, by the Holy Spirit. You support a ministry led by a

man who ATTACKS That TRUTH and has a STRONG disdain for what Christ taught through

Herbert Armstrong, and for those who CONTINUALLY HOLD FAST TO THOSE TRUTHS!! You have

placed yourself in that category also, when you support such a work! I advice you to REPENT,

PROVE ALL THINGS. HOLD FAST TO THAT WHICH IS GOOD. TAKE HEED THAT NO ONE DECEIVE

YOU. and RETURN to the TRUTH that CHRIST RESTORED!

In Christs Service

Timothy Kitchen Jr.

Monday at 2:59pm

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Ronald Greene

you chose an uncreditale source. They post a wwn with a different photo and headline then

the one on herbert-armstrong.org. there are tons of people who love and appreciate Mr.

Coulter. what's wrong with you Timothy Kitchen Jr. You are much too young to understand and

especially if you do not have God's Holy Spirit. You have not YET confirmed that you have been

babtized and have received God's Holy Spirit. If you are wrong about Mr. Coulter you will have

hell to pay from God Himself. At 21 years of age versus my 69 years of age, I'm old enough to be

your grandfather and yet you want to be more knowledgeable than me. It's ok for you to attack

the one minister that I have proven to be in God's good grace and you come along with

nonsense from one source which you CLAIM is creditable. I'm going to just get out of your way

and talk to those who know the truth.

11 hours ago

Timothy Kitchen Jr

Mr. Greene

Maybe I didn't say it clearly, or I thought i mentioned it, but it was me that wrote the Expose on

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Fred Coulter. thetruthrestored,wordpress.com is MY site. Now where did i get my info? I went

to www.cbcg.org, and www.fredcoulter.com and got the info presented for the expose'. I then

compared those teachings with what Mr. Herbert W Armstrong taught. Christ RESTORED those

TRUTHS Taught by Herbert W Armstrong, God's Chosen Apostle. As it is in the Bible. And the

Teachings that the Christian biblical Church of God teaches are contrary to what was restored

and taught by Christ through His Chosen Apostle. Christ Restored the GOSPEL to the Church

through Mr. Armstrong. YET Mr. Fred Coulter say Mr. Armstrong CHANGED the Gospel! That is

what I'm talking about. In my study of what Mr. Coulter taught, I find he has bitterness toward

the Jews, which was the reason he left WCG, because Stanley Rader(a Jew) was ordained as an

evangelist. You can find it in the Sermon that explains why he left WCG. He was marked by a

SERVANT of God, Christ's Apostle Herbert W Armstrong for causing division within the Church.

God's True Church marked those who cause division(as the Bible teaches us to). If you read my

Comment before your last reply, I stated that I was baptized. Now, I'm judging by the fruits, and

BECAUSE of the TONS of people who look to him, I warn everyone, who has an ear, about those

who changed the Gospel to another Gospel, and teaching differently. I'm not trying to convert

anyone. Yes I'm 21, many people in the bible has been called at such a young age too. I've been

born into the Truth. for 21 years I've been taught it. Age has nothing to do with it. It is what

knowledge of the Truth you have and what you do with it that counts. I do not want to be more

knowledgeable than you. I don't know where you got that, but I do strive for the TRUTH of God.

I crave the understanding from God. And I'll grab that Truth when i see it, and Strive to NEVER

let go of it. Many have changed the truth and mixed it in with lies, calling it all truth. This is what

a Laodicean does. Half way into the World, and half way into the truth. Teaching part of the

Truth, and at the same time being influenced by the world, and teaching error that comes with

it. We must all return to the FULL 100% TRUTH RESTORED by Christ through His chosen Apostle

Herbert W Armstrong, and clean ourselves up from the error we have believed. Christ's Bride

will make herself ready, it is up to us, if we're to be part of those who do.

In Christian Love

Timothy

8 hours ago

Ronald Greene

The letter that you published by Mr. Coulter is not the same letter that I downloaded fromMr. Coulter's web site, cbcg.org and the wwn is not the same one as is on the herbert-

armstrong.org web site. Mr. Armstrong and Mr. Coulter had a very close relationship. Mr.

Coulter was warning his congregation that certain ministers were going to ban Sabbath and

Holy Days observance and replace them with Sunday and pagan holidays. I addressed your age,

because the human mind does not mature until 24 or 25 years and then it has to grow. So you

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do not have God's Holy Spirit. Please read Romans 8:9 and verse 14. I do appreciate your zeal

and faith in God.

7 hours ago

Timothy Kitchen Jr

What letter are you speaking of?

2 hours ago

Timothy Kitchen Jr

The WWN issue is the same on Herbert-w-armstrong.com and Herbert-armstrong.org.

If you take a look at the bottom right on both sites links, you will see Fred Coulter's Name in

the Marked and disfellowshipped ministers section of the article. You can listen to Fred

Coulter's Last sermon on his website, and read the transcript of it. He gave a sermon in the early

2000's explaining why he left. The first 20 minutes is what I transcribed in the expose'. That is

him explaining why he left. And you still accuse m,e FALSELY of not having the Holy Spirit. Many

in the church has been baptized before the age 25, and they had the HOLY SPIRIT. Will you

accuse THEM of not allowing God to take control of their lives, growing in THE TRUTH?

PLEASE Prove all things.

But please show me what Letter you are referring to by Fred Coulter.

In Christ's ONLY Service

Timothy Kitchen Jr

2 hours ago

Ronald Greene

I not going to block you, but I will no longer respond to you.

17 minutes ago

NOTE: HE BLOCKED ME WITHIN 1 HOUR!

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MY FATHER'S RESPONSE AND MINE!

Open Letter Response to Mr. Ronald Greene. :

You have been going around trying to attack and discredit my sons, Tim and Sam, attacking

them and then, you block them,

so they cannot answer your mature attacks accusations and threats. I wanted to take a

moment to respond to some of your tripe.

Let me say this (No offence to anyone that has been taken in by Coulters smooth talk, he is

slick), but, Mr. Armstrong disfellowshipped and marked Fred Coulter! It was even listed in the

worldwide news! Fred Coulter was part of the C. Wayne Cole Government/Jesuit coup attempt

to overthrow Mr. Armstrong and God's Church! He got caught Ronald! He did like some other

ministers did when they knew that they were going to be disfellowshipped and marked, and

they Resigned! (RESIGN, SOUNDS SO MUCH MORE Righteous then, you are

Disfellowshipped and marked !, Doesnt it?), but, Coulter was kicked out of the Worldwide

Church of God! And for EXCELLENT Reasons!! So said Mr. Armstrong! And, that, Sir, is good

enough for me!! I listened to Fred Coulters sermon the rest of the story. In it, Fred coulter

Shreds Herbert W. Armstrong!!

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING RONALD GREEN! FRED COULTER WILL HAVE TO SERIOUSLY

REPENT FROM ALL OF THAT OR HE WONT BE IN GODs KINGDOM!!

You are correct in the fact that speaking the Truth is not to hate. That is what we are doing with

Herbert W. Armstrong and his teachings! Gods Truth is Gods Truth , GOD raised up Herbert W.

Armstrong to Preach the Very same Gospel that was not preached for over 1900 years before!

Christ Restored and Revealed it to Herbert W. Armstrong and not Fred Coulter! PERIOD!!!!!.

We are not trying to cause dissension between Mr. Coulter and you, or the other people on

Facebook by condemning the way the practice their religion! Jesus Christ does that! If Fred

Coulter (once a minister of God, But, no longer) no longer teaches Gods Revealed and Restored

Truth (as Christ gave it to Mr. Armstrong) then, it is Jesus Christ that condemns the Lying

Religions! Christ will only accept the Truth that HE gave! And, like it or not (of course, you

dont like it) that was to Herbert W. Armstrong and not to Fred Coulter!! You have falsely

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accused my son Tim of all kinds of bad things. Things, it seems that you are guilty of Ronald!

You are doing the very same things that you are accusing Tim of doing! Mr. Armstrong used to

say that Satan and His human minions (flunkies) are usually guilty of the very same things that

they accuse Gods People of.

Ronald: Do you Really think that Mr. Armstrong would stand still (let alone approve) of thehate filled Lies that Fred coulter teaches and you back up? Do you Really believe that? You are

very deceived if you do! You seem to be going from person to person attacking anyone that is

looking to Herbert W. Armstrong and His Ministry for Gods Truth! HOW DARE YOU! Is that

what Fred Coulter teaches his Infiltrators to go out into the Groups and forums to do? I think

so! You accuse my son of not having the Holy Spirit. Who do you think you are Mr. Greene? I

will match his fruits of the Spirit against yours, any day! You ask Tim if he has ever heard Fred

Coulter speak? Yes, he has! I have too! It is Lies! He long ago rejected the Truth Christ gave

(through HIS ANNOINTED & CHOSEN APOSTLE & END-TIME ELIJAH, MR. HERBERT W.

Armstrong! At that very point, he disqualified himself forever more!!!

You need to read Mr. Armstrongs article Satan use and deceive me? Never! . If you can

humble your self enough to read it and take it to God in Prayer, God will show you the error of

your ways!

You are attacking my sons, but, it is very clear to everyone watching, Ronald. Fred Coulter is still

attacking the Truth, Armstrong Bashing, Truth hating, back stabbing (the back stabbing that he

did to Christ, Mr. Armstrong and Gods Church under Mr. Armstrong, and up to this very day, is

still doing!) that he was doing when he was caught red handed and disfellowshipped and

marked by Gods Apostle!!

What dont you understand here! Fred Coulter is just what Mr. Armstrong said an Apostate,an, Enemy of Jesus Christ!

Fred Coulter, let me say this to you!

REPENT QUICKLY AND TOTALLY OF REJECTING THE TRUTH RESTORED THROUGH GODs

CHOOSEN APOSTLE AND THE END-TIME ELIJAH! AND! RETURN TO 100 % of THAT TRUTH

IMEEDIATELY and perhaps GOD will find Mercy in His Heart and forgive you! To anyone

following Fred Coulter, and/or any of these COGs and/or groups out their that claim that they

are teaching Gods Truth all the while they are rejecting both that Truth (in full or part) , The

True Gospel and the Messenger God Himself raised up and taught (Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong)!

REPENT AND GET BACK TO THAT TRUTH AND LIGHT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TO DO SO!!

Please Dont misunderstand me, I am not offended if you reject Gods Truth or His Messenger

(HWA)!

What offends me, is all the lies and deception being done to Christ, HIS Truth, His MESSAGE, HIS

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MESSENGER (HWA) and HIS PEOPLE!! And, that, my friends, GREATLY OFFENDS JESUS

CHRIST!.

We all should be praying and fasting to make sure we are on solid ground!

Mr. Greene. I bear no ill will towards you (or towards anyone), and will be praying for you to see

the Light of Christs Truth!

I write this not to offend, but, to inform and warn out of (AGAPE) Love!

In Jesus Christs Service

Tim Kitchen SR

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