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Challenges to monetary policy in the EMEsA view into the Brazilian Case

November 18th, 2017

Governor of the Banco Central do Brasil

Ilan Goldfajn

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Outline

• Benign international conditions and Emerging

Markets Economies (EMEs)

• The current economic situation in Brazil

• Issues for discussion

• Final Remarks

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Outline

• Benign international conditions and Emerging

Markets Economies (EMEs)

• The current economic situation in Brazil

• Issues for discussion

• Final Remarks

3

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Benign conditions for EMEs – How long?

Source: Thomson Datastream

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Outline

• Benign international conditions and Emerging

Markets Economies

• The current economic situation in Brazil

• Issues for discussion

• Final Remarks

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Brazil: Risk has fallen

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Brazil: CDS (5-Year, Sovereign)

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Brazilian exchange rate - R$/US$

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Source: BCB / IBGE

Brazilian Real has stabilized

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Asset prices have improved

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*5-year inflation-indexed bond (NTN-B) interest rate. Source: BCB / Bloomberg

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IPCA targets

* Medians of Market expectations as of November 10thSource: BCB / IBGE

Inflation expectations anchored

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Monetary Policy Interest Rate (Selic Rate)

* 12-month pre-fixed interest rate (from the Swap DI market) minus 12-month expected inflation (Focus survey)Source: BCB / Bloomberg

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*In red, market forecast (Focus report, 11/10/2017).Source: BCB / IBGE

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Comfortable balance of payments Position

• Current account deficit: 0.6% of the GDP in September

• FDI: 4.2% of the GDP in September (seven times the deficit)

• Trade balance surplus: US$ 59 billion this year until October

• International reserves: more than US$ 380 bi, 20% of the GDP

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Outline

• Benign international conditions and Emerging

Markets Economies

• The current economic situation in Brazil

• Issues for discussion

• Final Remarks

13

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Issues for Discussion

• Why the recession was so severe?

• Why did disinflation lagged so much and, once in

place, was so fast?

• Why is the neutral interest rate so high in Brazil?

• Why are banks interest spreads so wide?

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Issues for Discussion

• Why the recession was so severe?

• Why did disinflation lagged so much and, once in

place, was so fast?

• Why is the neutral interest rate so high in Brazil?

• Why are banks interest spreads so wide?

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Annual real GDP growth

Severe recession

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*In red, medians of market expectations as of November 10thSource: IBGE / Ipeadata

Real GDPReal GDP

per capita

accumulated

growth

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accumulated

growth

(%)

1 1930-31 -5,3 -7,8

2 1981-83 -6,3 -12,4

3 1990-92 -3,8 -7,7

4 2015-16 -7,2 -8,7

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Why the recession was so severe?

1) Reversal of previous excessive stimulative policies

2) Investigations, political instability and impact on

corporates

3) Deleveraging process

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Source: BCB

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Issues for Discussion

• Why the recession was so severe?

• Why did disinflation lagged so much and, once in

place, was so fast?

• Why is the neutral interest rate so high in Brazil?

• Why are banks interest spreads so wide?

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Dec 1510.7

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CPI (IPCA), 12-Month Percent Change

Inflation resisted and then fell sharply

Conditional Forecast*

* Scenario with Focus Selic and Exchange RatesSource: BCB / IBGE

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Why the disinflation take so long?

2) Defensive behavior by price setters in an environment of uncertainty and

high expected inflation

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Source: BCB / IBGE

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Breakeven inflation rate (01/29/2016) Breakeven inflation rate (07/29/2016) CPI (observed)

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Issues for Discussion

• Why the recession was so severe?

• Why did disinflation lagged so much and, once in

place, was so fast?

• Why is the neutral interest rate so high in Brazil?

• Why are banks interest spreads so wide?

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1) Fiscal pressure

Why is the neutral interest rate so high?

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Source: STN

8.6

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Central Government primary expenditure – real annual growth

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2) Half of Credit in Brazil is at subsidized rates

Why is the neutral interest rate so high?

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Source: BCB

58% Payroll loans

Housing + Credit card

69% BNDES 61% Working capital

+ Foreign trade

Non earmarked loansEarmarked loans

71%

Individuals26%

Corporate; 24%

Corporate26%

Individuals24%

Portfolio by source of fundsDec/2016

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Why is the neutral interest rate so high?

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Source: BCB

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Jan 00 Jan 02 Jan 04 Jan 06 Jan 08 Jan 10 Jan 12 Jan 14 Jan 16

% p

.a.

Selic rate versus TJLP

Selic TJLP

TJLP (old): discretionary

TLP (new): market basedNational Development Bank

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Issues for Discussion

• Why the recession was so severe?

• Why did disinflation lagged so much and, once in

place, was so fast?

• Why is the neutral interest rate so high in Brazil?

• Why are banks interest spreads so wide?

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Why is the bank interest spread so wide?

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Bank interest spread decomposition: 2011-2016 average*

*Total credit - multiple and commercial banks.Source: BCB

Profits and others

23.3%4.0 bps

Direct taxation

15.6%2.7 bps

Reserve Requirements +tax charges and FGC

1.7%0.3 bps

Administrative costs

3.8%0.7 bps

Delinquency

55.7%9.6 bps

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Reforms and BC+ agenda

1. Labor reform

2. Education reform

3. Constitutional spending ceiling

4. Changes in the oil and gas sector

5. Privatization program

6. New market-oriented interest rate (TLP) for National Development Bank (BNDES)

operations

7. Law approving the electronic registration of collateral and guarantees

8. Positive credit bureau: New piece of legislation

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Outline

• Benign international conditions and Emerging

Markets Economies

• The current economic situation in Brazil

• Issues for discussion

• Final Remarks

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• Recession was deep due to deleveraging, non economic factors,

and reversal of excessive stimulative policies.

• Inflation remained high during the recession and receded fast

when expectations clearly improved.

• Reforms and adjustments: essential to sustainable growth and

low inflation

Final remarks

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Challenges to monetary policy in the EMEsA view into the Brazilian Case

November 18th, 2017

Governor of the Banco Central do Brasil

Ilan Goldfajn